July 31, 2025 • 54 mins
Let’s talk about the crap we hold in—literally.
This powerful episode with Nikky Golly, a gut health mentor and self-proclaimed poop expert, explores the connection between digestive issues and emotional suppression. Together, Kathy and Nikky unearth the real reasons behind chronic constipation, bloating, and burnout—and it has a lot more to do with your childhood conditioning than your fiber intake.
They dive deep into what it means to trust your gut, release shame around digestion, and finally unlearn the good girl script that keeps women sick, stuck, and spiritually silent.
Connect and learn more with Nikki at her website https://nikkigolly.com/
🎧 Listen on all platforms or go to kathybaldwin.me
📚 Read Kathy’s books: Unlearn the Crap & Level UP and How I Unlearned MY Crap (Amazon + bookstores)
🎙️ Key Highlights:
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Crap to Unlearn: Nikky challenges the “good girl” programming and reveals how deeply it’s tied to digestive dysfunction, emotional suppression, and burnout.
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Kathy's Reflection: Kathy connects the dots between her own digestive shutdowns and the pressure to keep up appearances. Her body was trying to tell the truth her mouth wouldn’t speak.
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Fascinating Gut Fact: Your gut produces over 90% of the body’s serotonin—meaning poop is emotional. Literally. And constipation is often energetic.
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Relatable Signs: Chronic constipation, gut issues, bloating, shame around bodily functions, “holding it all in” emotionally and physically
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Myths Debunked:
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“Good girls don’t talk about poop”
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Digestive issues are just physical
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You can heal emotionally without addressing the gut
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Women’s bodies should be quiet, contained, and controlled
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Guest’s Wisdom Nugget: “Your body doesn’t lie. If you’re backed up emotionally, you’re probably backed up physically too.”
💡 Memorable Quotes:
From Nikky Golly:
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"I became the poop queen because I stopped being ashamed of what every body does."
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"Success without alignment is just burnout in a prettier outfit—with IBS."
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"Your gut is your second brain, and it’s screaming when your mouth won’t."
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"When I started pooping regularly, I also started telling the truth."
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"We’re emotionally constipated and spiritually starved—and it shows in our digestion."
From Kathy Baldwin:
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"We don’t just
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Episode Transcript
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(00:02):
Welcome back to another episode of unlearn the
crap and level up because your soul is
calling.
My name is Kathy Baldwin and I am
so excited to have my guest Nikki Ghali
here with us today.
Nikki, before we get going I'm going to
(00:23):
ask you my signature question, which is for
all of those who watch the show on
a regular basis, unlearn the crap is physical
excrement that our body needs to release, how
it goes through our lymphatic system and our
digestive system.
(00:43):
It is the stress hormones, it is all
of that which our body does not need
or want and doesn't serve us and we
need to release.
But sometimes we hold on to it and
suppress it.
And it creates inflammation and disease.
And the other part of unlearn the crap
(01:05):
is the condition responses and automatic programming.
The majority of guests that I have on
my show, we focus in on the condition
responses and automatic programming.
But today we are going to be talking
to you more about the physicality of our
body in creating the health and wellness.
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So knowing what my definition of unlearn the
crap is, Nikki, what crap did you need
to unlearn so that you could level up?
Awesome, awesome, great question.
Yes, the crap that I needed to unlearn
is about actual crap.
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This is my favorite childhood book.
Everyone popes.
Yes, everyone popes because that is the thing
that I needed to unlearn.
I needed to unlearn the taboo around not
talking about crap because it made such a
huge difference in my life and has made
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my crazy differences in others lives.
So unlearn the taboos of not talking about
what comes out of your body.
Actually, physically, it is probably one of the
biggest things that one of them, I guarantee
on the other side, the automatic programming, there's
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been a lot of stuff that I've had
to unlearn over the years, but definitely that
the taboo of not talking about crap and
poop is I had to unlearn that and
be okay with being the poop lady.
Well, that's an amazing segue, Nikki, could you
(02:53):
tell our audience who you are and how
you've leveled up and how you serve the
world?
And then we're gonna go deeper into that
whole segue conversation.
Yes, yes.
I am the poop lady, aka Nikki Ghaly,
talking about digestion and elimination because most people
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don't talk about it and it is key
for your body.
So talking about elimination, having that conversation, having
more energy, and believe it or not, more
income.
So my ideal, what I talk about is,
yes, talking about crap.
We're gonna talk about crap.
We're gonna go there.
(03:37):
We're gonna talk about our digestion, how to
make it better, improve it, feel better, and
do better within your business.
I talk to a lot of entrepreneurs, even
if you're working a nine to five, you
can do more even after work or at
work than you ever thought possible when you
actually start feeling better and taking care of
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your digestion.
And that all starts with poop.
Yes, yes.
Okay.
So I am so glad about this because
one of the things that I talk about
all the time are the things that society
has put on as taboo.
Okay.
And I believe with every ounce of my
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being that when society has told us that
it is a taboo topic, it is for
our disempowerment and their control and their manipulation.
So we were not allowed to talk about
sex or religion, which are things that would
bond us together or create the ability to
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address difficult conversations and, you know, find commonality
and understanding and compassion and all these other
things if we were able to talk about
it.
But instead, it's a wedge between us.
Why do you think that our physical excrement
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in the way our body, the way our
body's digestion system works would be considered so
taboo?
I think just because it's kind of gross,
right?
I mean, when we started, stopped pooping in
the streets and pooping in the woods and
actually started pooping in little closets with indoor
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plumbing, it became more taboo because we could
hide it.
I think that's kind of where it is.
It was like, because it's something that doesn't
have to be out in the public anymore,
you actually, we have indoor plumbing, go hide
in a closet, don't talk about it, and
just act like life is normal, right?
(05:47):
That's kind of my theory.
The other piece is that it is, poop
is not a glamorous thing.
It is not something that you need to
be a lady.
You don't poop.
You have to be civilized and you're allowed
to eat, but magical fairies suck it out
at the other end.
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No, you actually have to have a bowel
movement.
That is part of the process.
Like I said in the little childhood book,
it talks about everything eats.
Everything eats so that everything needs to digest.
We all have digestive systems.
Then we have things our body can't use,
so you have to poop it out.
I think it's just crazy.
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It's a crazy taboo that I don't think,
well, obviously, I don't think it should exist
anymore because way more people would be way
happier and healthier.
The other crazy thing is, colon and rectum
cancers are on the rise and happening in
younger and younger populations.
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Actually, according to the American Cancer Society, people,
they were born in the 1990s.
The 1990s are actually twice as likely to
develop colon and rectum cancer than people that
are born in the 1950s.
People born in the 1990s, they're like 30.
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Most of the people, you think it's like,
oh, it's not until you're like 50 or
60 before you even need to do a
colonoscopy or pay attention at all, but that's
not true anymore.
For me- I kind of jumped down
a rabbit hole.
Sorry.
I want to circle around to this because
one of the things that I talk about
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probably in almost every interview is that I
have had adrenal fatigue, osteoarthritis, fibromyalgia.
My digestion has suffered from IBS and ulcers
and all sorts of issues.
When I went to the root cause in
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my healing process, I realized that, well, first
of all, nobody was allowed to know that
I needed to go.
It had to be hidden.
I could not use a public restroom.
When I traveled, I would get so constipated
because the conditions that I would put on
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where would be an acceptable place for me
to do it never really arose.
I realized that I had taken on a
joke that my mother had shared, which was
my mother would say, I'm so perfect that
I don't have bodily functions.
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It was a family joke, but it wasn't
until I looked at the root cause of
what I was going through that I realized
for 40 years, I had been resisting and
trying to control and manipulate a body system
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that has its own cycle and rhythms.
I was letting my thoughts, my beliefs actually
create disease in my body.
Yeah, which is part of what you're talking
about.
So why?
Why would those in the 30s have such
a high rise of colorectal cancer?
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Would you say it's our food source?
Or are we having more and more beliefs
about that not working within our natural system?
Right.
I'm not sure that people in the 30s
have as many belief systems just because most
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grown up with parents that are kind of
healing and kind of breaking the crap, the
programming and that kind of stuff.
I would say more often it's the foods,
the convenience foods.
We don't have to make food anymore.
You can eat at all hours of all
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times of any day.
And it's the ultra processed foods I think
is really the biggest thing, especially because younger
people, it's like 30s, right?
30s, what 1990 is what?
35.
So someone that's about 35 now.
And most of the time it's easy and
convenient.
They're not living in their parents' house anymore.
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Many, it's crazy.
One of the things I learned when I
was in school for nutrition, it was like
the highest population for deficiencies was men between
the age of 18 and 35.
And it's because they typically not married and
they don't live in their mom's house anymore.
So they typically have more issues because food
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isn't a priority for most, not all, but
food isn't a priority.
And especially good foods, especially fruits and vegetables,
the things that as a mom, you always
tell your kids to eat.
They don't do that a lot, but I
would say that rises even in women, just
because it's not, it's not something that they
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pay attention to.
It's food, like food's easy, food's cheap.
If you go to the convenience store, it's
easy.
It's ultra processed, has lots of different ingredients
in it.
Not to mention the like microplastics and stuff
in our food, which we're still studying, like
there's so much research on that now, just
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because it's everywhere.
And we're getting so much in so many
containers, right?
In water containers.
Yeah, we've got the containers, but we also
have the ease of the microwave, right?
And so one of the things that I
recently heard about was microwave-safe containers does
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not mean that it is safe for our
body.
It means it's safe for the microwave.
Yeah, it means it won't melt in the
microwave.
Doesn't mean it's not gonna put microplastics in
the food that you put it in.
Yeah, it is a misnomer.
We're like, oh, it means it's safe for
us.
No, not really.
It means it won't melt.
That doesn't really benefit us in any way.
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But yeah, the convenience, the convenience of foods
and things that happen easy, right?
And we're busy and we're stressed.
That's another piece too.
I mean, younger populations are stressed.
Everyone's stressed.
You gotta keep up with the Joneses.
You gotta be on all the Zoom calls.
You gotta not take any time to go
make food, because I don't have time for
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that, right?
Those are the things that we kind of
need to change.
We don't have to be a five-star
chef in the kitchen all the time, but
actually having a hand in your food definitely
makes a difference.
So one of the things that I've seen
so many reports about, we're gonna call it
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the place with the arches.
Okay.
I got it.
I don't know if I'm not allowed to
talk about it, but you hear about it
all the time.
But I recently have seen so many reports
of people who have taken their food and
left it out for a year and it
still looked recognizable.
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And another thing I heard was the French
fries and how they have 17 ingredients in
their French fries.
A French fries was made of potato and
maybe oil and salt.
So this whole 17 ingredients.
But they don't last very long and they
don't have this perfect crunch and they don't
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have, there's all these things that we expect
of things.
It's supposed to have this, it can't turn
color.
There's all these different things in it to
prevent it from sticking together, prevent it from
changing any dark colors if they left it
in the fryer too long.
There's so many different things that, but yeah,
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if you actually cut the French fry, should
just be a cut potato fried in oil
and salt on it.
That's the original, right?
But people come to expect, that was one
thing that I've, one of the things I
do with my clients is actually have them
eliminate certain foods for sometimes.
And one of them is wheat.
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And one that a lot of times it's
shocking and most people have no idea, but
they typically put flour on French fries because
it gives it more of a crispness, like
a crunch to it.
So then it's like, oh, wait, what?
You don't think that the French fry shouldn't
have anything weird in it?
Like you said, the 17 different ingredients in
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it that are preservatives and anti-caking, but
flour is one of them to have that
perfect texture.
It's like, so no need a perfect texture.
Give me real food, please.
Yeah.
So tell me, yeah, our taste buds have
been altered for sure.
And what we expect food is supposed to
taste like, but tell me why flour is
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so bad, because I know it's not bad
in Europe.
Is it the quantity or is it the
chemicals of our processing?
Why are we having so many IBS, celiac
disease, Crohn's, all of these things that are
happening and the root cause, I believe, is
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coming from our wheat.
Yeah.
There's a couple different things.
The first is over-consumption, really.
Typically wheat is in everything.
Like I said, French fries, that's something that
you don't expect it to.
But I'm talking about, look at breakfast.
You have toast, you have pancakes, you have
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waffles, you have French toast, you have cereals,
you have all of these things contain wheat,
all of them.
The only one that doesn't is oatmeal, but
there is cross-contamination with most oats, with
the wheat, because they're usually processed on the
same machinery that you have wheat.
Then you go to lunch and you eat
a sandwich most of the time.
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And then dinner, you have pasta.
I mean, there are things that don't, but
majority of the time, someone is going to
get wheat in their diet every single day,
if not every meal.
So having that over-consumption all the time,
combined with the toxins, combined with the inflammation
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of our system, you get foods and particles
of food that actually get into the bloodstream
where they never should be.
So combined over-consumption with inflammation, with frankly,
just having it available all the time and
how our wheat is actually processed on top
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of that.
You talk about process, the processing of wheat,
or that wheat is usually sprayed with chemicals.
It's sprayed with Roundup or various version of
Roundup, which is a glyphosate.
Glyphosate keeps the pests away so the wheat
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can withstand it.
Then the wheat itself has been changed in,
especially in the United States, the wheat itself
has been cultivated to withstand drought.
So it can withstand drought, but it also
withstands digestion because it's such a hardy wheat.
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And then it's sprayed with pesticides.
So you have a handful of different things
that cause all kinds of issues that, I
mean, it's just kind of a perfect storm
for our digestive systems.
And then they kind of combine that all
together and then you have all these reactions
that people have, but not all the time.
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And the fun thing about, not fun, but
in my, fun for me, because I'm kind
of that scientist, a lot of the people
that have been diagnosed with gut issues, typically
their favorite food is bread.
So they eat a lot of it more
than other people, right?
More than others.
And they combine all those things together.
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We're stressed, we're inflamed, we're eating foods that's
not great.
And it's like that perfect storm for gut
issues, specifically.
I definitely fall under that category because I
was raised exactly like you said, bread was
at every single meal, every single meal.
And then I loved pasta.
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And so even though I wasn't raised on
it, we had spaghetti like once in a
blue moon, my dad was a meat and
potatoes guy.
But I went to Italy.
And in Italy, they served pasta as a
first course.
And it was a very small portion, where
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my ex-husband at the time, he was
mounding his plate and they were staring at
him because he was mounding his plate the
way we would be served here, which is
big, huge portion.
And they were shocked, shocked at the amount
of pasta, because they don't do that there.
But you said something I need us to
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come back to.
Okay.
And that was that the wheat is not
digestible.
What do you mean?
How can a food be not digestible?
So think about if they cultivate, I mean,
in cultivation, you can change, you can select
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wheat berries.
So the wheat as a wheat berry, you
can select wheat berries that are harder.
If they're harder, they can withstand not getting
moisture.
So if they withstand not getting moisture for
long periods of time and still are edible,
it's better for them as the cultivator of
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the wheat.
But what happens is that it makes it
so hard that our body has trouble actually
breaking it down.
Again, everything we need to eat, we need
to be able to digest and absorb and
assimilate and then eliminate what we can't use
in that process.
If you can't break it down, because most
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of us, let's be honest, myself included, we
don't chew near as much as we're supposed
to.
That's where digestion really starts is in the
mouth.
And you're supposed to chew like 30 times.
I mean, I'd be shocked if anyone chews
more than 10 times before swallowing something.
So therefore, you don't have that mastication.
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We don't have teeth inside our digestive systems.
We just, we have little, so we have
things to break things down, but we don't
have teeth.
We don't actually chomp it up.
So even when it's ground, a lot of
times it's still really hard for our bodies
to take what we need out of it.
Okay, that that's what I want to ask,
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because flour is ground down.
So is it not when it's ground down,
and it becomes such a fine thing, because
I think that the chewing was based on
our meat.
You know, as we're eating meat, we have
to chew multiple times to break down those
fibers so that we can then put them
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in.
But flours is, it's already pulverizing ground down.
And you're saying that that's still not good
enough for our body.
Yeah.
And then the chewing, the chewing, one of
the main digestive enzyme that's actually released in
your mouth is amylase.
And amylase helps you to break down carbohydrates.
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So if we're not chewing, we're not actually
getting enough of that enzyme to break down
the carbohydrate that we're eating.
It's not necessarily we need the the mastication,
which is the chewing for just the fibrous
stuff, but actually having enough of that digestive
enzyme for our body to then break it
down.
So is that does it when it breaks
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down a carbohydrate faster?
Does that prevent it from turning into glucose?
And because they're they're saying all the time,
we're hearing that we should have low carb.
Yeah, so, so carbohydrates, no matter if you're
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chewing or not chewing, that's completely beside the
fact as far as okay, you're not all
that.
Yeah, they're not they're not necessarily your body's
going to break down all carbohydrates into glucose
because our body uses glucose as energy.
The where I think where we could benefit
and change the narrative a little bit is
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instead of demonizing carbohydrates, because carbohydrates are needed.
Instead, let's focus on the carbohydrates that are
going to benefit us more than others.
So instead of so carbohydrates, a carbohydrate, but
there's a carbohydrate from bread, which is wheat
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and it flour and sugar and water, right?
That's, there's not a whole lot of vitamins
and minerals or fiber in that.
Take the other side, you have a carbohydrate
from say, an orange or an apple.
In that it's still a carbohydrate, essentially, in
the interim, it is really just carbohydrates are
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both are going to break down into glucose.
But the difference that the orange and the
apple has is that it has vitamins and
minerals that our body needs.
And it has fiber.
And fiber is the biggest thing to slow
down the absorption of the sugar so it
it doesn't stop it.
So sugar, glucose, I just combined the two
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words, they are the same thing.
But the sugar or the glucose, if it
slows down the absorption, it takes longer for
your body to break it down and absorb
it, the better it is going to be
for your system.
So instead of demonizing carbohydrates, I think instead,
I would love the mass population instead to
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say, instead of carbohydrates are bad, like, let's
focus on the carbs that are good.
And let's get more fiber with our carbohydrates.
And that's going to make a huge difference.
Okay, I hope you're okay with me challenging
you.
Because as somebody with fibromyalgia, I've been told
over and over again, low, low carbs, keto,
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as you know, and one of the doctors
that I've studied under Dr. Ken Berry, he
actually says that the carbohydrates that we consume,
because our soil has been so depleted, because
of all the chemicals and everything, that we're
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not getting the nutrition from it.
And one of the things that he said,
and I really want to hear your opinion
on this, is if you look at our
food cycle, that fruits and vegetables come into
season right before fall and winter, which means
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that it's designed to fatten us up so
that we can get through the winter cycle.
And so I've been so confused, because now
that I'm off of all the meds that
the doctors prescribed for me for all.
Yes, yes.
But I put on a ton of weight.
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And I've been trying so hard to not
diet, but to figure out what the root
cause of what my body is looking for,
because I've yo yoed my entire life since
I was 14 years old.
So yes, it's not coming off fast enough.
But when I don't want to yo yo
anymore, you know, we know the danger of
that.
So help me understand, help me understand the
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things that I've been learning, because I've been
trying so hard to be keto or carnivore,
but the weight's not coming off.
Okay, okay.
Um, the question for you is trying really
hard means what?
Well, let's unpack what I said.
What is the truth first about the nutritional
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value that is in our fruits and vegetables
now that we have their there is truth
to that, that we definitely don't have near
the, the vitamins and minerals in our fruits
and vegetables anymore.
I don't think that's enough grounds to completely
demonize them.
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If you can get stuff closer to home,
local, like that kind of stuff.
Like I'm more of a locavore, if anything,
like try to shop as close to home
as possible.
If you have friends with trees, plant trees,
fruit trees, those kinds of things, like that's
really, really powerful.
I understand, especially the research that you've been
doing, being that keto carnivore, that kind of
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thing, like focusing on just the meat side
of it.
Because going back to the inflammation, I talked
about inflammation a little bit more.
Most of us are massively inflamed.
Our guts are inflamed.
That's where the IBS, a lot of that
IBS, I truly believe is just a catch
all for the pharmaceutical companies, because it's like,
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you have gut issues, or you have irritable
bowel syndrome, or you have IBSC, you have
irritable bowel syndrome with constipation, so it's kind
of a catch all for everyone that has
gut issues.
But most gut issues come back to, even
leaky gut fits in that same category.
It comes back to inflammation.
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Nikki, those are symptoms, right?
They're not the root cause.
No, yep, yep.
And they're all kind of one in the
same, like leaky gut, IBS, irritable bowel, like
those are things, they're symptoms of your body
being inflamed.
So all goes back to inflammation.
I've talked about inflammation for a long time,
because it's so, we're mostly inflamed and stressed
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out, like that's kind of where we sit
all the time, and then we go towards
drugs, or go towards other things, because it's
always outside of us to fix the things
inside of us.
Believe it or not, it even comes back
to emotions, like talking about crap, like going
back to what you said, like the learned
programming, all of that crap, comes back to
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emotions, and not processing things, not processing grief,
not processing, not having that conversation, not being
allowed to bring things up that are uncomfortable.
Like death is uncomfortable for most people, but
you know what?
All of us deal with death.
All of us do.
Just like we deal with poop.
Exactly.
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Everybody poops, hopefully every day.
But just like that, like everyone deals with
it, and there's a lot of unprocessed emotions,
which we internalize, which causes more issues within.
So we are all one system.
We think of like, oh, we can compartmentalize
this, or work, or business, or family, and
like, no, we're all one system.
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Everything affects everything.
Your brain, the things in your head, your
thoughts affect your digestion.
Like we need to kind of come back
to that.
Again, that's the unlearning, right?
The unlearning the crap, like coming back to
that, because it really makes a difference.
Everything comes together.
Everything is part of itself.
So going back to the digestion piece of
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being inflamed all the time, as we are,
if we're inflamed, our bodies aren't going to
work right.
Inflammation of our gut.
Most of the people think like, okay, back
up.
Let me start over here for a second.
If you twist your ankle, and it swells
up, what happens is it puffs up, right?
Once it puffs up, then what happens?
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It puffs up, and it expands.
So therefore, white blood cells can go into
the affected area easily, so it can transfer
through the membranes and heal it faster.
Same thing happens with our gut.
There's a good purpose to inflammation.
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Yeah, yeah.
Short term is so your body can heal.
Again, but what happens with our gut is
it inflames, so it swells up.
It allows things to get through.
Ideally, we want it to be white blood
cells to get in to fix the situation.
But a lot of times, it's that inflammation,
and then we're not stopping the thing.
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We're continually twisting our ankle, essentially.
So having that swelling up and then continually
twisting your ankle, has it swell up more?
Has it caused more damage in the long
term?
That's what's happening to our guts.
Because we don't pay attention, because we're not
in tune with our bodies very much, when
we're inflamed, we're eating the food that caused
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the inflammation.
We're continually eating that.
So our guts stay inflamed, and having that
stay inflammation, instead of just letting white blood
cells in to fix it, what happens is
it also works the other direction.
So then we get those food particles into
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our bloodstream.
And food particles should never be in our
bloodstream.
It should only be carbohydrates, fats, or the
glucose, essentially fats, vitamins, and minerals.
It should never be the food that gets
into our bloodstream.
So causing the inflammation- Are you serious?
Like little pieces of food floating in our
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blood.
Because we're inflamed.
So therefore, that's why the carnivore diets or
things like that, because typically we're not eating
that way.
We're getting rid of the inflammatory foods, they're
going to be your wheats, even, believe it
or not, fruits and vegetables, because our body
doesn't normally get that in our system.
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We have that things floating around in our
bloodstream.
But our bloodstream, like our body knows like
that's not supposed to be there.
So what happens is we create antibodies to
attack those foods.
Hence, allergies.
When your body creates antibodies against something, you
start to create an allergy towards it.
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That brings up Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis, like
a lot of these things.
So all of those itises, so just a
little taking your school a little bit.
Anything that ends in itis means inflammation.
Really?
Colitis.
Yeah, all of that means inflammation.
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Itis directly means inflammation.
Okay, so I just flew across time zones
this weekend.
I flew from the East Coast to the
West and West Coast back and when I
came back, my legs and my feet and
my hands, my hands are still all still
swollen.
So I can physically feel the inflammation.
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I can physically see the inflammation.
How do we know that our digestion and
our gut are inflamed?
We can't see it.
How do we feel it?
That's like bloating, quote unquote bloating.
When you feel bloated, that's that's inflammation.
But most of the time, most of us
are inflamed all the time.
So that bloating or that belly is just
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us.
We've normalized.
Yeah, like that's normal for me.
I always have a belly.
What are you talking about?
So it's different.
I point at my belly, my belly is
a lot bigger than it normally is, but
there's a baby in there.
So I was like, sorry, I totally caught
myself off guard for a second point.
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I'm like, why is my?
Yeah, that's not inflammation.
I mean, it's causing inflammation, I guarantee it.
My body is in all kinds of weird,
weird spaces, but I digress.
But yeah, inflammation, like a lot of times
we look down and that is just us.
So when people go off carbohydrates or get
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rid of breads completely or go carnivore and
just focus on just eating meats, you do
notice a lot of people will lose inflammation.
They will feel better because they're stopping to
eat that thing that's consistently insulting their digestive
system.
So I definitely feel better when I'm on
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carnivore or keto.
My body feels better, I have less brain
fog, I have more energy, I sleep better.
But when my body isn't releasing the weight,
I get, like most people, frustrated and think,
well, then I want a piece of bread
and I want the wine and I want
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these things.
Well, the other thing too is our body,
as much as the carnivore gurus won't tell
you this, our body runs on glucose.
So if you're not taking in glucose, if
you're not taking in carbohydrates, and I'm not
saying bread, but carbohydrates, if you're not taking
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in carbohydrates, what your body has to make
carbohydrates from the fats you have in your
system.
It makes it because your body doesn't change
over and stop running on glucose all of
a sudden.
Like your body can run on ketones because
your body makes ketones because they're similar to
glucose as much as your primary body fuel.
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But the positive side of that, again, you're
not eating the things that are causing the
inflammation that slows things down.
And it just, it makes you feel better.
But what happens is our bodies, our brains,
our bodies are very connected and you sleep
better and you feel better and you have
more like acute thinking because your body thinks
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you're starving.
And if you're starving, you need to be
smarter.
You need to sleep better.
You need to heal faster slow there for
you can get your next meal.
Well, if you go back, what you just
said is so important.
And it's the first time I've heard it
and I've spent years and years in research.
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I need us to back up so that
everyone can hear what you just said.
Okay, our central nervous system has an on
and off switch the sympathetic to the parasympathetic.
When our body is in sympathetic, it shuts
down non vital processes.
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It shuts down our ability to reproduce our
ability to digest our it changes the way
our heart pumps.
It changes that stress.
That's your fight or flight nervous system.
Yeah.
So, so while our bodies are doing that
through stress, what you just said was, when
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we are calorie deficit, or when nutritionally deficit,
our body thinks we're starving.
And so it's heightening our responses so that
we can get out of danger, which is
putting us in stress.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
So I mean, what is a different kind
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of stress?
Yeah, it's not it's a different kind of
stress, right?
It's not a stress of like overwhelming stress.
It's a stress of, I need to find
my next meal.
I need to find those berries that I
found.
Like you have to go back to the
Paleolithic times, right?
It's not all the stuff how our bodies
are designed to work doesn't really fit with
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our 21st century lifestyle.
So that's how we have so many different
diets that do different things and fasting.
So fasting does similar things.
If you do a fast, specifically, you can
do a fast for three days.
So 72 hours is pretty safe for the
general everybody, seven up to 72 hours.
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And what happens the first day, you have
to kind of reprogram your mind and be
like, I'm doing this on purpose.
This is okay.
Like I'm not starving.
I'm hungry.
You kind of got to go through that.
Second day, your energy is a little bit
lower because you're depleting your stores of glucose.
But the third day, and that kind of
works in the same as keto and that
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kind of thing.
That third day, what happens is that our
systems change, moves to burning ketones instead of
glucose.
And what happens is that, again, you feel
like you have more energy.
You feel like you can conquer the world.
You feel like everything is possible and you
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feel like you can think clear and things
just seem to be easier for you in
that third day is because your body's essentially
starving, right?
You hit that third day, your body goes,
wait, this is a third day.
Like we haven't found food yet.
We need to like, we need to be
on top of our game.
We need to kill that animal.
We need to find those berries.
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We need to find something so we can,
so we don't die.
And so those things kind of change within
our system.
Isn't it fascinating?
That makes so much sense.
Thank you so much for saying that.
Yeah, you're welcome.
I mean, I've talked about this in years.
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Well, I want to go back to poop.
Okay.
You said hopefully once a day.
Now, again, we run into how often is
normal?
What is duration?
What, how, what are what are shapes and
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sizes and colors?
We're starting to talk about all of that
now.
How do we know?
Because there's a lot of people who don't
look in the bowl.
Right, right, right, right.
And that is one thing that I wish,
I mean, it's, it's your body communicating with
you, right?
Your body's communicating with you all the time.
The inflammation is communication.
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The left hip hurting is communication.
Like all of these things are communicating with
you.
But poop is a, is a bodily function
that your body's communicating with you.
Like, is it happening every day?
Yes or no?
How, what's the shape?
What is the consistency?
Is it difficult to push out?
Is it happening way too often?
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Like, these are all kinds of various ends
of the spectrum.
But the, the biggest thing is pay attention,
one.
And it should, you should have a bowel
movement every single day.
Ideally, two to three times a day.
And what, what that is, is you're processing,
you're getting rid of what your body cannot
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use.
But a minimum of once.
Two to three is, is optimal, but is
not that common.
I have to admit that there's a few
people that achieve that fantastic, but it's not
that common.
But at least once a day.
And I'm not talking, I'm not talking of
the little rabbit turds.
That doesn't count.
That's not a real poop, like an actual
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getting things out of your body.
So I always say this, sorry for the
mental picture in advance.
No, no, no.
We're, we're, do not apologize.
We need to unlearn.
Right?
It is.
There you go.
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I have a mental picture again.
I always apologize in advance, but it's kind
of cheeky, right?
But an ideal poop should resemble soft serve
ice cream.
So that, that makes a mental picture, right?
You can't unlearn that.
Dr. Oz coined the term, the S-shaped
poo.
There's only one real poo that can make
an S-shape, right?
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In the bowl.
So pay attention.
If it's, I'm doing lots of thumbs.
If it's on one side, if it's like
little, little tiny balls, like I mentioned, rabbit
poo, that's more, that's constipation.
If that's not ha, if that's not happening
every day, even if those little balls are
happening every day, you're still constipated.
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Your body is not processing things correctly.
You're not actually evacuating your entire colon.
Then on the other side, if it's loose,
if it's watery, that's on, that's the diarrhea
side.
So really that you don't want that.
Most people know that part, that the constipation
side, that's the taboo.
That's the crap that most people don't talk
about because diarrhea, you can't really hide.
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You beat you and me in a conversation.
It's me.
I'm going to run away and go to
the bathroom, right?
That one's a lot less easy to hide,
but more often people deal with the constipation
side and they could deal with it miserable
for years because nobody knows.
It's that quiet misery that most people don't
know because it's like, I mean, who checks
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on someone in the bathroom?
Unless you have an intimate connection with the
person, you're like knocking on the door, like
you've been in there for an hour.
Like, are you okay?
Like that kind of thing, not on your
cell phone.
That's a different piece.
That's a different excuse.
But having that constipation is a miserable experience.
That was where I was for many years.
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And most people, you don't know, right?
That causes so many other issues.
So really that ideal is that in between,
that soft serve ice cream, easy to go,
doesn't take a lot of energy, be done
and be done with the bathroom.
But having that conversation with your loved ones,
having that just awareness in yourself, like if
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you're not going every day, like let's talk,
let's have a quiet, let's talk about this.
That actually takes me to one of the
things that I like to just give away
and just have like a, have you start
the conversation with yourself, if you're not as
comfortable as I am talking with everybody, but
I have a, it's called the poop pop
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quiz.
So pop quiz time, just like you're in
school, you've made it this far, pop quiz,
let's figure out where you're at.
Promise there's no gross pictures, but on my
website, actually, there'll be, there's a link, but
it's just NikkiGolly.com.
It's on the front page.
It says, take your quiz, see where you're
at.
And then I kind of go into some
questions to get you to really think about
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where your digestion is, and then have you
total up the score to figure out where
you're at, where you lie, if you're taking
care of yourself well, you're feeling good, or
if there's some work to do.
And so I just wanted to kind of
give that.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you so much for sharing that, because
that is one thing that is so important
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for us to be able to understand that
the information that our body is telling us,
because that is exactly what Unlearn the Crap
is about is we are being fed so
much information on a constant basis, energetic, physical,
all sorts of and we need to understand
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what our body wants.
So yeah, what, what is optimum?
What is optimum as far and I have
another question.
So let's say that question right now, because
I have one that I really want to
know, belly fat.
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Okay, we hear about all sorts of different
fats, you know, if it's in our hips
and our thighs, it's good.
But we have a society of belly fat,
whether it's men with the with the big
round belly, or the beer belly, or as
my father would call it the wholesome muscle.
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He's Canadian.
So where he was.
But then women, you know, we have the
pouch, the pooch, whatever you want to call
it.
And that, how do we get rid of
that, when that is really inflammation and stress,
isn't it?
A lot of times it is inflammation, a
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lot of times it is stress, there is
fat.
But the other thing about the crap kind
of unlearning some of that, that super skinny
model is not healthy.
That's the other piece of the coin that
we know people most people don't talk about.
Everyone wants to be super real skinny and
fit into their skinny jeans and have no
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fat.
But if you actually look at longevity kind
of scales or longevity tests and things like
that, that having some fat is actually beneficial.
It's not great.
And that spare tire that middle like we
definitely overdo it a little bit and we
probably could lose that belly fat is worse
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for us than other fats.
But fat in general is not the worst
thing for us.
Like I thought one of the weirdest things
and most fascinating things in school is that,
you know, have on the scale, you have
underweight, you have normal, you have overweight and
obese, like on that scale for the BMI.
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The study that they took all of that
information from, if you actually looked at the
study, the people that had a longer life
and a healthier life were in the normal
to not obese, but normal to overweight category.
So what are we really trying to achieve?
Are we trying to be skinny?
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Because skinny, it was actually worse than obese
for longevity, which again, nobody talks about.
I thought that was that was one of
like the biggest eye opener, like mind blowing
things that I learned when I was in
school and the narrative hasn't changed.
I learned this in school, but nobody else
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did or nobody else.
I guess it just doesn't fit the narrative
because that's not what's beautiful.
That's not what's considered beautiful.
It's the model skinny.
Even the models aren't even that skinny.
That's the model, as well as AI or
well as Photoshop to get rid of all
the excess stuff like that's not even normal.
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Like let's stop that crap.
And let's talk about what's really good for
us.
Absolutely.
When you go back into history about beautiful
people, we went from a very robust, because
if you were robust, that meant that you
were successful, you could feed yourself, you could
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eat.
And it was those who were underweight that
were the poor people because they couldn't afford
food.
And now for some reason, we have morphed
into this place where the our physical appearance
is more important than the quality of life,
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the health and longevity that you've talked about,
which is so so important.
And I'm so glad you brought it up.
Nikki, there are so many more topics that
we could talk about.
Yeah, it's been great.
Our time has flown by.
I know that there are a lot of
people who are listening to us and they're
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like, okay, I now understand that there is
so much I don't know.
There's so much more I do need to
know.
And you as the nutrition expert, who are
the clients that you work with, that if
someone hears, oh, she can help me?
And and how do they reach you?
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Yeah, honestly, if you're far off that scale,
I'm not talking about once in the blue
moon, but if you're not pooping good, if
you're not pooping every day, like let's have
a conversation.
If that little rabbit turds or that uncomfortable
or bloated all of the time, it affects
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a lot more than just your digestion, right?
I mean, we've talked about a handful of
different things, but it affects so much comes
to your energy comes to the way you
show up, how you're perceived by others, that
kind of thing, just because everything comes back
to your digestion.
When you're digesting better, you start feeling better,
and everything kind of falls into place.
And then of course, you make more money,
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which is amazing.
And who doesn't want to make more money?
So if anyone really my favorite, both I
work with, but my favorite is people that
are constipated, because that was my journey for
so many years.
So if you come if you're a lot
of my clients come to me, and they'll
go to take tests at the doctors and
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the doctors are like, you're fine.
There's nothing wrong with you.
Your labs are great.
But you just don't feel good.
You know, you don't feel good.
You're not pooping every day.
You're not like, or you're going way off
in your pooping 20 times a day, you
don't feel good.
Like, let's have a question.
Let's have a conversation.
First thing to go take that poop quiz,
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that'll kind of give you an idea of
what's normal, what's not normal.
And then, honestly, just to sweeten the deal
for the first 10 people, the first 10
people that do it, to give you a
little motivation, like get off your button, like
go to Nikki golly.com first page, do
your poop quiz.
For the first 10 people that actually do
it.
I will gift my time to you.
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Just because I'm that kind of person, I'd
love to help.
And so I will go over on a
one on one call, go over those quiz
results with you.
Completely complimentary.
Normally I charge 247 for it.
But really going into that quiz to give
you some actionable steps that you really can
take to start feeling better like now, instead
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of in a month or two or 10.
Like, let's let's start making a difference now
because you're worth it.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So when they reach out to you, do
you want them to say that they saw
you here on unlearn the crap?
Definitely.
Yes, please.
Yes.
Tell me where you heard me.
Yes.
Reach out to me.
Get on.
Yeah, get on my website.
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Yes.
Send a message.
Be like, Oh, I heard you on unlearn
the crap.
Like, wow, my dad, did you open my
eyes to a lot of things?
Oh my god, that was a fire hose.
Whatever.
I'll take all the responses.
Well, I'm sure we did a lot of
fire hosing here because everything.
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And the one thing that I really want
everyone to really pay attention to, and it
is part of my absolute message is that
everything matters.
And when you talk about the correlation between
poop and how healthy and how successful and
how wealthy we are, it is all interconnected.
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We are interconnected, interrelated beings that are living
within an interconnected, interrelated system.
And we must, we must pay attention to
all of it.
Nikki, thank you so very much for all
of this information for everything you're doing for
not being ashamed to talk about our poop
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and the crap that we're dealing with, so
that we can all level up and become
the best versions of ourselves.
Welcome back to another episode of unlearn the
crap and level up because your soul is
calling.
My name is Kathy Baldwin and I am
so excited to have my guest Nikki Ghali
here with us today.
Nikki, before we get going I'm going to
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ask you my signature question, which is for
all of those who watch the show on
a regular basis, unlearn the crap is physical
excrement that our body needs to release, how
it goes through our lymphatic system and our
digestive system.
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It is the stress hormones, it is all
of that which our body does not need
or want and doesn't serve us and we
need to release.
But sometimes we hold on to it and
suppress it.
And it creates inflammation and disease.
And the other part of unlearn the crap
(01:05):
is the condition responses and automatic programming.
The majority of guests that I have on
my show, we focus in on the condition
responses and automatic programming.
But today we are going to be talking
to you more about the physicality of our
body in creating the health and wellness.
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So knowing what my definition of unlearn the
crap is, Nikki, what crap did you need
to unlearn so that you could level up?
Awesome, awesome, great question.
Yes, the crap that I needed to unlearn
is about actual crap.
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This is my favorite childhood book.
Everyone popes.
Yes, everyone popes because that is the thing
that I needed to unlearn.
I needed to unlearn the taboo around not
talking about crap because it made such a
huge difference in my life and has made
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my crazy differences in others lives.
So unlearn the taboos of not talking about
what comes out of your body.
Actually, physically, it is probably one of the
biggest things that one of them, I guarantee
on the other side, the automatic programming, there's
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been a lot of stuff that I've had
to unlearn over the years, but definitely that
the taboo of not talking about crap and
poop is I had to unlearn that and
be okay with being the poop lady.
Well, that's an amazing segue, Nikki, could you
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tell our audience who you are and how
you've leveled up and how you serve the
world?
And then we're gonna go deeper into that
whole segue conversation.
Yes, yes.
I am the poop lady, aka Nikki Ghaly,
talking about digestion and elimination because most people
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don't talk about it and it is key
for your body.
So talking about elimination, having that conversation, having
more energy, and believe it or not, more
income.
So my ideal, what I talk about is,
yes, talking about crap.
We're gonna talk about crap.
We're gonna go there.
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We're gonna talk about our digestion, how to
make it better, improve it, feel better, and
do better within your business.
I talk to a lot of entrepreneurs, even
if you're working a nine to five, you
can do more even after work or at
work than you ever thought possible when you
actually start feeling better and taking care of
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your digestion.
And that all starts with poop.
Yes, yes.
Okay.
So I am so glad about this because
one of the things that I talk about
all the time are the things that society
has put on as taboo.
Okay.
And I believe with every ounce of my
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being that when society has told us that
it is a taboo topic, it is for
our disempowerment and their control and their manipulation.
So we were not allowed to talk about
sex or religion, which are things that would
bond us together or create the ability to
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address difficult conversations and, you know, find commonality
and understanding and compassion and all these other
things if we were able to talk about
it.
But instead, it's a wedge between us.
Why do you think that our physical excrement
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in the way our body, the way our
body's digestion system works would be considered so
taboo?
I think just because it's kind of gross,
right?
I mean, when we started, stopped pooping in
the streets and pooping in the woods and
actually started pooping in little closets with indoor
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plumbing, it became more taboo because we could
hide it.
I think that's kind of where it is.
It was like, because it's something that doesn't
have to be out in the public anymore,
you actually, we have indoor plumbing, go hide
in a closet, don't talk about it, and
just act like life is normal, right?
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That's kind of my theory.
The other piece is that it is, poop
is not a glamorous thing.
It is not something that you need to
be a lady.
You don't poop.
You have to be civilized and you're allowed
to eat, but magical fairies suck it out
at the other end.
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No, you actually have to have a bowel
movement.
That is part of the process.
Like I said in the little childhood book,
it talks about everything eats.
Everything eats so that everything needs to digest.
We all have digestive systems.
Then we have things our body can't use,
so you have to poop it out.
I think it's just crazy.
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It's a crazy taboo that I don't think,
well, obviously, I don't think it should exist
anymore because way more people would be way
happier and healthier.
The other crazy thing is, colon and rectum
cancers are on the rise and happening in
younger and younger populations.
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Actually, according to the American Cancer Society, people,
they were born in the 1990s.
The 1990s are actually twice as likely to
develop colon and rectum cancer than people that
are born in the 1950s.
People born in the 1990s, they're like 30.
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Most of the people, you think it's like,
oh, it's not until you're like 50 or
60 before you even need to do a
colonoscopy or pay attention at all, but that's
not true anymore.
For me- I kind of jumped down
a rabbit hole.
Sorry.
I want to circle around to this because
one of the things that I talk about
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probably in almost every interview is that I
have had adrenal fatigue, osteoarthritis, fibromyalgia.
My digestion has suffered from IBS and ulcers
and all sorts of issues.
When I went to the root cause in
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my healing process, I realized that, well, first
of all, nobody was allowed to know that
I needed to go.
It had to be hidden.
I could not use a public restroom.
When I traveled, I would get so constipated
because the conditions that I would put on
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where would be an acceptable place for me
to do it never really arose.
I realized that I had taken on a
joke that my mother had shared, which was
my mother would say, I'm so perfect that
I don't have bodily functions.
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It was a family joke, but it wasn't
until I looked at the root cause of
what I was going through that I realized
for 40 years, I had been resisting and
trying to control and manipulate a body system
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that has its own cycle and rhythms.
I was letting my thoughts, my beliefs actually
create disease in my body.
Yeah, which is part of what you're talking
about.
So why?
Why would those in the 30s have such
a high rise of colorectal cancer?
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Would you say it's our food source?
Or are we having more and more beliefs
about that not working within our natural system?
Right.
I'm not sure that people in the 30s
have as many belief systems just because most
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grown up with parents that are kind of
healing and kind of breaking the crap, the
programming and that kind of stuff.
I would say more often it's the foods,
the convenience foods.
We don't have to make food anymore.
You can eat at all hours of all
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times of any day.
And it's the ultra processed foods I think
is really the biggest thing, especially because younger
people, it's like 30s, right?
30s, what 1990 is what?
35.
So someone that's about 35 now.
And most of the time it's easy and
convenient.
They're not living in their parents' house anymore.
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Many, it's crazy.
One of the things I learned when I
was in school for nutrition, it was like
the highest population for deficiencies was men between
the age of 18 and 35.
And it's because they typically not married and
they don't live in their mom's house anymore.
So they typically have more issues because food
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isn't a priority for most, not all, but
food isn't a priority.
And especially good foods, especially fruits and vegetables,
the things that as a mom, you always
tell your kids to eat.
They don't do that a lot, but I
would say that rises even in women, just
because it's not, it's not something that they
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pay attention to.
It's food, like food's easy, food's cheap.
If you go to the convenience store, it's
easy.
It's ultra processed, has lots of different ingredients
in it.
Not to mention the like microplastics and stuff
in our food, which we're still studying, like
there's so much research on that now, just
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because it's everywhere.
And we're getting so much in so many
containers, right?
In water containers.
Yeah, we've got the containers, but we also
have the ease of the microwave, right?
And so one of the things that I
recently heard about was microwave-safe containers does
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not mean that it is safe for our
body.
It means it's safe for the microwave.
Yeah, it means it won't melt in the
microwave.
Doesn't mean it's not gonna put microplastics in
the food that you put it in.
Yeah, it is a misnomer.
We're like, oh, it means it's safe for
us.
No, not really.
It means it won't melt.
That doesn't really benefit us in any way.
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But yeah, the convenience, the convenience of foods
and things that happen easy, right?
And we're busy and we're stressed.
That's another piece too.
I mean, younger populations are stressed.
Everyone's stressed.
You gotta keep up with the Joneses.
You gotta be on all the Zoom calls.
You gotta not take any time to go
make food, because I don't have time for
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that, right?
Those are the things that we kind of
need to change.
We don't have to be a five-star
chef in the kitchen all the time, but
actually having a hand in your food definitely
makes a difference.
So one of the things that I've seen
so many reports about, we're gonna call it
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the place with the arches.
Okay.
I got it.
I don't know if I'm not allowed to
talk about it, but you hear about it
all the time.
But I recently have seen so many reports
of people who have taken their food and
left it out for a year and it
still looked recognizable.
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And another thing I heard was the French
fries and how they have 17 ingredients in
their French fries.
A French fries was made of potato and
maybe oil and salt.
So this whole 17 ingredients.
But they don't last very long and they
don't have this perfect crunch and they don't
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have, there's all these things that we expect
of things.
It's supposed to have this, it can't turn
color.
There's all these different things in it to
prevent it from sticking together, prevent it from
changing any dark colors if they left it
in the fryer too long.
There's so many different things that, but yeah,
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if you actually cut the French fry, should
just be a cut potato fried in oil
and salt on it.
That's the original, right?
But people come to expect, that was one
thing that I've, one of the things I
do with my clients is actually have them
eliminate certain foods for sometimes.
And one of them is wheat.
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And one that a lot of times it's
shocking and most people have no idea, but
they typically put flour on French fries because
it gives it more of a crispness, like
a crunch to it.
So then it's like, oh, wait, what?
You don't think that the French fry shouldn't
have anything weird in it?
Like you said, the 17 different ingredients in
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it that are preservatives and anti-caking, but
flour is one of them to have that
perfect texture.
It's like, so no need a perfect texture.
Give me real food, please.
Yeah.
So tell me, yeah, our taste buds have
been altered for sure.
And what we expect food is supposed to
taste like, but tell me why flour is
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so bad, because I know it's not bad
in Europe.
Is it the quantity or is it the
chemicals of our processing?
Why are we having so many IBS, celiac
disease, Crohn's, all of these things that are
happening and the root cause, I believe, is
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coming from our wheat.
Yeah.
There's a couple different things.
The first is over-consumption, really.
Typically wheat is in everything.
Like I said, French fries, that's something that
you don't expect it to.
But I'm talking about, look at breakfast.
You have toast, you have pancakes, you have
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waffles, you have French toast, you have cereals,
you have all of these things contain wheat,
all of them.
The only one that doesn't is oatmeal, but
there is cross-contamination with most oats, with
the wheat, because they're usually processed on the
same machinery that you have wheat.
Then you go to lunch and you eat
a sandwich most of the time.
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And then dinner, you have pasta.
I mean, there are things that don't, but
majority of the time, someone is going to
get wheat in their diet every single day,
if not every meal.
So having that over-consumption all the time,
combined with the toxins, combined with the inflammation
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of our system, you get foods and particles
of food that actually get into the bloodstream
where they never should be.
So combined over-consumption with inflammation, with frankly,
just having it available all the time and
how our wheat is actually processed on top
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of that.
You talk about process, the processing of wheat,
or that wheat is usually sprayed with chemicals.
It's sprayed with Roundup or various version of
Roundup, which is a glyphosate.
Glyphosate keeps the pests away so the wheat
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can withstand it.
Then the wheat itself has been changed in,
especially in the United States, the wheat itself
has been cultivated to withstand drought.
So it can withstand drought, but it also
withstands digestion because it's such a hardy wheat.
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And then it's sprayed with pesticides.
So you have a handful of different things
that cause all kinds of issues that, I
mean, it's just kind of a perfect storm
for our digestive systems.
And then they kind of combine that all
together and then you have all these reactions
that people have, but not all the time.
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And the fun thing about, not fun, but
in my, fun for me, because I'm kind
of that scientist, a lot of the people
that have been diagnosed with gut issues, typically
their favorite food is bread.
So they eat a lot of it more
than other people, right?
More than others.
And they combine all those things together.
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We're stressed, we're inflamed, we're eating foods that's
not great.
And it's like that perfect storm for gut
issues, specifically.
I definitely fall under that category because I
was raised exactly like you said, bread was
at every single meal, every single meal.
And then I loved pasta.
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And so even though I wasn't raised on
it, we had spaghetti like once in a
blue moon, my dad was a meat and
potatoes guy.
But I went to Italy.
And in Italy, they served pasta as a
first course.
And it was a very small portion, where
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my ex-husband at the time, he was
mounding his plate and they were staring at
him because he was mounding his plate the
way we would be served here, which is
big, huge portion.
And they were shocked, shocked at the amount
of pasta, because they don't do that there.
But you said something I need us to
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come back to.
Okay.
And that was that the wheat is not
digestible.
What do you mean?
How can a food be not digestible?
So think about if they cultivate, I mean,
in cultivation, you can change, you can select
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wheat berries.
So the wheat as a wheat berry, you
can select wheat berries that are harder.
If they're harder, they can withstand not getting
moisture.
So if they withstand not getting moisture for
long periods of time and still are edible,
it's better for them as the cultivator of
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the wheat.
But what happens is that it makes it
so hard that our body has trouble actually
breaking it down.
Again, everything we need to eat, we need
to be able to digest and absorb and
assimilate and then eliminate what we can't use
in that process.
If you can't break it down, because most
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of us, let's be honest, myself included, we
don't chew near as much as we're supposed
to.
That's where digestion really starts is in the
mouth.
And you're supposed to chew like 30 times.
I mean, I'd be shocked if anyone chews
more than 10 times before swallowing something.
So therefore, you don't have that mastication.
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We don't have teeth inside our digestive systems.
We just, we have little, so we have
things to break things down, but we don't
have teeth.
We don't actually chomp it up.
So even when it's ground, a lot of
times it's still really hard for our bodies
to take what we need out of it.
Okay, that that's what I want to ask,
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because flour is ground down.
So is it not when it's ground down,
and it becomes such a fine thing, because
I think that the chewing was based on
our meat.
You know, as we're eating meat, we have
to chew multiple times to break down those
fibers so that we can then put them
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in.
But flours is, it's already pulverizing ground down.
And you're saying that that's still not good
enough for our body.
Yeah.
And then the chewing, the chewing, one of
the main digestive enzyme that's actually released in
your mouth is amylase.
And amylase helps you to break down carbohydrates.
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So if we're not chewing, we're not actually
getting enough of that enzyme to break down
the carbohydrate that we're eating.
It's not necessarily we need the the mastication,
which is the chewing for just the fibrous
stuff, but actually having enough of that digestive
enzyme for our body to then break it
down.
So is that does it when it breaks
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down a carbohydrate faster?
Does that prevent it from turning into glucose?
And because they're they're saying all the time,
we're hearing that we should have low carb.
Yeah, so, so carbohydrates, no matter if you're
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chewing or not chewing, that's completely beside the
fact as far as okay, you're not all
that.
Yeah, they're not they're not necessarily your body's
going to break down all carbohydrates into glucose
because our body uses glucose as energy.
The where I think where we could benefit
and change the narrative a little bit is
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instead of demonizing carbohydrates, because carbohydrates are needed.
Instead, let's focus on the carbohydrates that are
going to benefit us more than others.
So instead of so carbohydrates, a carbohydrate, but
there's a carbohydrate from bread, which is wheat
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and it flour and sugar and water, right?
That's, there's not a whole lot of vitamins
and minerals or fiber in that.
Take the other side, you have a carbohydrate
from say, an orange or an apple.
In that it's still a carbohydrate, essentially, in
the interim, it is really just carbohydrates are
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both are going to break down into glucose.
But the difference that the orange and the
apple has is that it has vitamins and
minerals that our body needs.
And it has fiber.
And fiber is the biggest thing to slow
down the absorption of the sugar so it
it doesn't stop it.
So sugar, glucose, I just combined the two
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words, they are the same thing.
But the sugar or the glucose, if it
slows down the absorption, it takes longer for
your body to break it down and absorb
it, the better it is going to be
for your system.
So instead of demonizing carbohydrates, I think instead,
I would love the mass population instead to
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say, instead of carbohydrates are bad, like, let's
focus on the carbs that are good.
And let's get more fiber with our carbohydrates.
And that's going to make a huge difference.
Okay, I hope you're okay with me challenging
you.
Because as somebody with fibromyalgia, I've been told
over and over again, low, low carbs, keto,
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as you know, and one of the doctors
that I've studied under Dr. Ken Berry, he
actually says that the carbohydrates that we consume,
because our soil has been so depleted, because
of all the chemicals and everything, that we're
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not getting the nutrition from it.
And one of the things that he said,
and I really want to hear your opinion
on this, is if you look at our
food cycle, that fruits and vegetables come into
season right before fall and winter, which means
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that it's designed to fatten us up so
that we can get through the winter cycle.
And so I've been so confused, because now
that I'm off of all the meds that
the doctors prescribed for me for all.
Yes, yes.
But I put on a ton of weight.
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And I've been trying so hard to not
diet, but to figure out what the root
cause of what my body is looking for,
because I've yo yoed my entire life since
I was 14 years old.
So yes, it's not coming off fast enough.
But when I don't want to yo yo
anymore, you know, we know the danger of
that.
So help me understand, help me understand the
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things that I've been learning, because I've been
trying so hard to be keto or carnivore,
but the weight's not coming off.
Okay, okay.
Um, the question for you is trying really
hard means what?
Well, let's unpack what I said.
What is the truth first about the nutritional
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value that is in our fruits and vegetables
now that we have their there is truth
to that, that we definitely don't have near
the, the vitamins and minerals in our fruits
and vegetables anymore.
I don't think that's enough grounds to completely
demonize them.
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If you can get stuff closer to home,
local, like that kind of stuff.
Like I'm more of a locavore, if anything,
like try to shop as close to home
as possible.
If you have friends with trees, plant trees,
fruit trees, those kinds of things, like that's
really, really powerful.
I understand, especially the research that you've been
doing, being that keto carnivore, that kind of
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thing, like focusing on just the meat side
of it.
Because going back to the inflammation, I talked
about inflammation a little bit more.
Most of us are massively inflamed.
Our guts are inflamed.
That's where the IBS, a lot of that
IBS, I truly believe is just a catch
all for the pharmaceutical companies, because it's like,
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you have gut issues, or you have irritable
bowel syndrome, or you have IBSC, you have
irritable bowel syndrome with constipation, so it's kind
of a catch all for everyone that has
gut issues.
But most gut issues come back to, even
leaky gut fits in that same category.
It comes back to inflammation.
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Nikki, those are symptoms, right?
They're not the root cause.
No, yep, yep.
And they're all kind of one in the
same, like leaky gut, IBS, irritable bowel, like
those are things, they're symptoms of your body
being inflamed.
So all goes back to inflammation.
I've talked about inflammation for a long time,
because it's so, we're mostly inflamed and stressed
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out, like that's kind of where we sit
all the time, and then we go towards
drugs, or go towards other things, because it's
always outside of us to fix the things
inside of us.
Believe it or not, it even comes back
to emotions, like talking about crap, like going
back to what you said, like the learned
programming, all of that crap, comes back to
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emotions, and not processing things, not processing grief,
not processing, not having that conversation, not being
allowed to bring things up that are uncomfortable.
Like death is uncomfortable for most people, but
you know what?
All of us deal with death.
All of us do.
Just like we deal with poop.
Exactly.
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Everybody poops, hopefully every day.
But just like that, like everyone deals with
it, and there's a lot of unprocessed emotions,
which we internalize, which causes more issues within.
So we are all one system.
We think of like, oh, we can compartmentalize
this, or work, or business, or family, and
like, no, we're all one system.
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Everything affects everything.
Your brain, the things in your head, your
thoughts affect your digestion.
Like we need to kind of come back
to that.
Again, that's the unlearning, right?
The unlearning the crap, like coming back to
that, because it really makes a difference.
Everything comes together.
Everything is part of itself.
So going back to the digestion piece of
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being inflamed all the time, as we are,
if we're inflamed, our bodies aren't going to
work right.
Inflammation of our gut.
Most of the people think like, okay, back
up.
Let me start over here for a second.
If you twist your ankle, and it swells
up, what happens is it puffs up, right?
Once it puffs up, then what happens?
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It puffs up, and it expands.
So therefore, white blood cells can go into
the affected area easily, so it can transfer
through the membranes and heal it faster.
Same thing happens with our gut.
There's a good purpose to inflammation.
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Yeah, yeah.
Short term is so your body can heal.
Again, but what happens with our gut is
it inflames, so it swells up.
It allows things to get through.
Ideally, we want it to be white blood
cells to get in to fix the situation.
But a lot of times, it's that inflammation,
and then we're not stopping the thing.
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We're continually twisting our ankle, essentially.
So having that swelling up and then continually
twisting your ankle, has it swell up more?
Has it caused more damage in the long
term?
That's what's happening to our guts.
Because we don't pay attention, because we're not
in tune with our bodies very much, when
we're inflamed, we're eating the food that caused
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the inflammation.
We're continually eating that.
So our guts stay inflamed, and having that
stay inflammation, instead of just letting white blood
cells in to fix it, what happens is
it also works the other direction.
So then we get those food particles into
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our bloodstream.
And food particles should never be in our
bloodstream.
It should only be carbohydrates, fats, or the
glucose, essentially fats, vitamins, and minerals.
It should never be the food that gets
into our bloodstream.
So causing the inflammation- Are you serious?
Like little pieces of food floating in our
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blood.
Because we're inflamed.
So therefore, that's why the carnivore diets or
things like that, because typically we're not eating
that way.
We're getting rid of the inflammatory foods, they're
going to be your wheats, even, believe it
or not, fruits and vegetables, because our body
doesn't normally get that in our system.
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We have that things floating around in our
bloodstream.
But our bloodstream, like our body knows like
that's not supposed to be there.
So what happens is we create antibodies to
attack those foods.
Hence, allergies.
When your body creates antibodies against something, you
start to create an allergy towards it.
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That brings up Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis, like
a lot of these things.
So all of those itises, so just a
little taking your school a little bit.
Anything that ends in itis means inflammation.
Really?
Colitis.
Yeah, all of that means inflammation.
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Itis directly means inflammation.
Okay, so I just flew across time zones
this weekend.
I flew from the East Coast to the
West and West Coast back and when I
came back, my legs and my feet and
my hands, my hands are still all still
swollen.
So I can physically feel the inflammation.
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I can physically see the inflammation.
How do we know that our digestion and
our gut are inflamed?
We can't see it.
How do we feel it?
That's like bloating, quote unquote bloating.
When you feel bloated, that's that's inflammation.
But most of the time, most of us
are inflamed all the time.
So that bloating or that belly is just
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us.
We've normalized.
Yeah, like that's normal for me.
I always have a belly.
What are you talking about?
So it's different.
I point at my belly, my belly is
a lot bigger than it normally is, but
there's a baby in there.
So I was like, sorry, I totally caught
myself off guard for a second point.
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I'm like, why is my?
Yeah, that's not inflammation.
I mean, it's causing inflammation, I guarantee it.
My body is in all kinds of weird,
weird spaces, but I digress.
But yeah, inflammation, like a lot of times
we look down and that is just us.
So when people go off carbohydrates or get
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rid of breads completely or go carnivore and
just focus on just eating meats, you do
notice a lot of people will lose inflammation.
They will feel better because they're stopping to
eat that thing that's consistently insulting their digestive
system.
So I definitely feel better when I'm on
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carnivore or keto.
My body feels better, I have less brain
fog, I have more energy, I sleep better.
But when my body isn't releasing the weight,
I get, like most people, frustrated and think,
well, then I want a piece of bread
and I want the wine and I want
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these things.
Well, the other thing too is our body,
as much as the carnivore gurus won't tell
you this, our body runs on glucose.
So if you're not taking in glucose, if
you're not taking in carbohydrates, and I'm not
saying bread, but carbohydrates, if you're not taking
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in carbohydrates, what your body has to make
carbohydrates from the fats you have in your
system.
It makes it because your body doesn't change
over and stop running on glucose all of
a sudden.
Like your body can run on ketones because
your body makes ketones because they're similar to
glucose as much as your primary body fuel.
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But the positive side of that, again, you're
not eating the things that are causing the
inflammation that slows things down.
And it just, it makes you feel better.
But what happens is our bodies, our brains,
our bodies are very connected and you sleep
better and you feel better and you have
more like acute thinking because your body thinks
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you're starving.
And if you're starving, you need to be
smarter.
You need to sleep better.
You need to heal faster slow there for
you can get your next meal.
Well, if you go back, what you just
said is so important.
And it's the first time I've heard it
and I've spent years and years in research.
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I need us to back up so that
everyone can hear what you just said.
Okay, our central nervous system has an on
and off switch the sympathetic to the parasympathetic.
When our body is in sympathetic, it shuts
down non vital processes.
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It shuts down our ability to reproduce our
ability to digest our it changes the way
our heart pumps.
It changes that stress.
That's your fight or flight nervous system.
Yeah.
So, so while our bodies are doing that
through stress, what you just said was, when
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we are calorie deficit, or when nutritionally deficit,
our body thinks we're starving.
And so it's heightening our responses so that
we can get out of danger, which is
putting us in stress.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
So I mean, what is a different kind
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of stress?
Yeah, it's not it's a different kind of
stress, right?
It's not a stress of like overwhelming stress.
It's a stress of, I need to find
my next meal.
I need to find those berries that I
found.
Like you have to go back to the
Paleolithic times, right?
It's not all the stuff how our bodies
are designed to work doesn't really fit with
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our 21st century lifestyle.
So that's how we have so many different
diets that do different things and fasting.
So fasting does similar things.
If you do a fast, specifically, you can
do a fast for three days.
So 72 hours is pretty safe for the
general everybody, seven up to 72 hours.
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And what happens the first day, you have
to kind of reprogram your mind and be
like, I'm doing this on purpose.
This is okay.
Like I'm not starving.
I'm hungry.
You kind of got to go through that.
Second day, your energy is a little bit
lower because you're depleting your stores of glucose.
But the third day, and that kind of
works in the same as keto and that
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kind of thing.
That third day, what happens is that our
systems change, moves to burning ketones instead of
glucose.
And what happens is that, again, you feel
like you have more energy.
You feel like you can conquer the world.
You feel like everything is possible and you
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feel like you can think clear and things
just seem to be easier for you in
that third day is because your body's essentially
starving, right?
You hit that third day, your body goes,
wait, this is a third day.
Like we haven't found food yet.
We need to like, we need to be
on top of our game.
We need to kill that animal.
We need to find those berries.
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We need to find something so we can,
so we don't die.
And so those things kind of change within
our system.
Isn't it fascinating?
That makes so much sense.
Thank you so much for saying that.
Yeah, you're welcome.
I mean, I've talked about this in years.
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Well, I want to go back to poop.
Okay.
You said hopefully once a day.
Now, again, we run into how often is
normal?
What is duration?
What, how, what are what are shapes and
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sizes and colors?
We're starting to talk about all of that
now.
How do we know?
Because there's a lot of people who don't
look in the bowl.
Right, right, right, right.
And that is one thing that I wish,
I mean, it's, it's your body communicating with
you, right?
Your body's communicating with you all the time.
The inflammation is communication.
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The left hip hurting is communication.
Like all of these things are communicating with
you.
But poop is a, is a bodily function
that your body's communicating with you.
Like, is it happening every day?
Yes or no?
How, what's the shape?
What is the consistency?
Is it difficult to push out?
Is it happening way too often?
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Like, these are all kinds of various ends
of the spectrum.
But the, the biggest thing is pay attention,
one.
And it should, you should have a bowel
movement every single day.
Ideally, two to three times a day.
And what, what that is, is you're processing,
you're getting rid of what your body cannot
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use.
But a minimum of once.
Two to three is, is optimal, but is
not that common.
I have to admit that there's a few
people that achieve that fantastic, but it's not
that common.
But at least once a day.
And I'm not talking, I'm not talking of
the little rabbit turds.
That doesn't count.
That's not a real poop, like an actual
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getting things out of your body.
So I always say this, sorry for the
mental picture in advance.
No, no, no.
We're, we're, do not apologize.
We need to unlearn.
Right?
It is.
There you go.
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I have a mental picture again.
I always apologize in advance, but it's kind
of cheeky, right?
But an ideal poop should resemble soft serve
ice cream.
So that, that makes a mental picture, right?
You can't unlearn that.
Dr. Oz coined the term, the S-shaped
poo.
There's only one real poo that can make
an S-shape, right?
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In the bowl.
So pay attention.
If it's, I'm doing lots of thumbs.
If it's on one side, if it's like
little, little tiny balls, like I mentioned, rabbit
poo, that's more, that's constipation.
If that's not ha, if that's not happening
every day, even if those little balls are
happening every day, you're still constipated.
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Your body is not processing things correctly.
You're not actually evacuating your entire colon.
Then on the other side, if it's loose,
if it's watery, that's on, that's the diarrhea
side.
So really that you don't want that.
Most people know that part, that the constipation
side, that's the taboo.
That's the crap that most people don't talk
about because diarrhea, you can't really hide.
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You beat you and me in a conversation.
It's me.
I'm going to run away and go to
the bathroom, right?
That one's a lot less easy to hide,
but more often people deal with the constipation
side and they could deal with it miserable
for years because nobody knows.
It's that quiet misery that most people don't
know because it's like, I mean, who checks
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on someone in the bathroom?
Unless you have an intimate connection with the
person, you're like knocking on the door, like
you've been in there for an hour.
Like, are you okay?
Like that kind of thing, not on your
cell phone.
That's a different piece.
That's a different excuse.
But having that constipation is a miserable experience.
That was where I was for many years.
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And most people, you don't know, right?
That causes so many other issues.
So really that ideal is that in between,
that soft serve ice cream, easy to go,
doesn't take a lot of energy, be done
and be done with the bathroom.
But having that conversation with your loved ones,
having that just awareness in yourself, like if
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you're not going every day, like let's talk,
let's have a quiet, let's talk about this.
That actually takes me to one of the
things that I like to just give away
and just have like a, have you start
the conversation with yourself, if you're not as
comfortable as I am talking with everybody, but
I have a, it's called the poop pop
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quiz.
So pop quiz time, just like you're in
school, you've made it this far, pop quiz,
let's figure out where you're at.
Promise there's no gross pictures, but on my
website, actually, there'll be, there's a link, but
it's just NikkiGolly.com.
It's on the front page.
It says, take your quiz, see where you're
at.
And then I kind of go into some
questions to get you to really think about
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where your digestion is, and then have you
total up the score to figure out where
you're at, where you lie, if you're taking
care of yourself well, you're feeling good, or
if there's some work to do.
And so I just wanted to kind of
give that.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you so much for sharing that, because
that is one thing that is so important
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for us to be able to understand that
the information that our body is telling us,
because that is exactly what Unlearn the Crap
is about is we are being fed so
much information on a constant basis, energetic, physical,
all sorts of and we need to understand
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what our body wants.
So yeah, what, what is optimum?
What is optimum as far and I have
another question.
So let's say that question right now, because
I have one that I really want to
know, belly fat.
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Okay, we hear about all sorts of different
fats, you know, if it's in our hips
and our thighs, it's good.
But we have a society of belly fat,
whether it's men with the with the big
round belly, or the beer belly, or as
my father would call it the wholesome muscle.
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He's Canadian.
So where he was.
But then women, you know, we have the
pouch, the pooch, whatever you want to call
it.
And that, how do we get rid of
that, when that is really inflammation and stress,
isn't it?
A lot of times it is inflammation, a
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lot of times it is stress, there is
fat.
But the other thing about the crap kind
of unlearning some of that, that super skinny
model is not healthy.
That's the other piece of the coin that
we know people most people don't talk about.
Everyone wants to be super real skinny and
fit into their skinny jeans and have no
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fat.
But if you actually look at longevity kind
of scales or longevity tests and things like
that, that having some fat is actually beneficial.
It's not great.
And that spare tire that middle like we
definitely overdo it a little bit and we
probably could lose that belly fat is worse
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for us than other fats.
But fat in general is not the worst
thing for us.
Like I thought one of the weirdest things
and most fascinating things in school is that,
you know, have on the scale, you have
underweight, you have normal, you have overweight and
obese, like on that scale for the BMI.
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The study that they took all of that
information from, if you actually looked at the
study, the people that had a longer life
and a healthier life were in the normal
to not obese, but normal to overweight category.
So what are we really trying to achieve?
Are we trying to be skinny?
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Because skinny, it was actually worse than obese
for longevity, which again, nobody talks about.
I thought that was that was one of
like the biggest eye opener, like mind blowing
things that I learned when I was in
school and the narrative hasn't changed.
I learned this in school, but nobody else
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did or nobody else.
I guess it just doesn't fit the narrative
because that's not what's beautiful.
That's not what's considered beautiful.
It's the model skinny.
Even the models aren't even that skinny.
That's the model, as well as AI or
well as Photoshop to get rid of all
the excess stuff like that's not even normal.
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Like let's stop that crap.
And let's talk about what's really good for
us.
Absolutely.
When you go back into history about beautiful
people, we went from a very robust, because
if you were robust, that meant that you
were successful, you could feed yourself, you could
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eat.
And it was those who were underweight that
were the poor people because they couldn't afford
food.
And now for some reason, we have morphed
into this place where the our physical appearance
is more important than the quality of life,
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the health and longevity that you've talked about,
which is so so important.
And I'm so glad you brought it up.
Nikki, there are so many more topics that
we could talk about.
Yeah, it's been great.
Our time has flown by.
I know that there are a lot of
people who are listening to us and they're
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like, okay, I now understand that there is
so much I don't know.
There's so much more I do need to
know.
And you as the nutrition expert, who are
the clients that you work with, that if
someone hears, oh, she can help me?
And and how do they reach you?
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Yeah, honestly, if you're far off that scale,
I'm not talking about once in the blue
moon, but if you're not pooping good, if
you're not pooping every day, like let's have
a conversation.
If that little rabbit turds or that uncomfortable
or bloated all of the time, it affects
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a lot more than just your digestion, right?
I mean, we've talked about a handful of
different things, but it affects so much comes
to your energy comes to the way you
show up, how you're perceived by others, that
kind of thing, just because everything comes back
to your digestion.
When you're digesting better, you start feeling better,
and everything kind of falls into place.
And then of course, you make more money,
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which is amazing.
And who doesn't want to make more money?
So if anyone really my favorite, both I
work with, but my favorite is people that
are constipated, because that was my journey for
so many years.
So if you come if you're a lot
of my clients come to me, and they'll
go to take tests at the doctors and
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the doctors are like, you're fine.
There's nothing wrong with you.
Your labs are great.
But you just don't feel good.
You know, you don't feel good.
You're not pooping every day.
You're not like, or you're going way off
in your pooping 20 times a day, you
don't feel good.
Like, let's have a question.
Let's have a conversation.
First thing to go take that poop quiz,
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that'll kind of give you an idea of
what's normal, what's not normal.
And then, honestly, just to sweeten the deal
for the first 10 people, the first 10
people that do it, to give you a
little motivation, like get off your button, like
go to Nikki golly.com first page, do
your poop quiz.
For the first 10 people that actually do
it.
I will gift my time to you.
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Just because I'm that kind of person, I'd
love to help.
And so I will go over on a
one on one call, go over those quiz
results with you.
Completely complimentary.
Normally I charge 247 for it.
But really going into that quiz to give
you some actionable steps that you really can
take to start feeling better like now, instead
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of in a month or two or 10.
Like, let's let's start making a difference now
because you're worth it.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So when they reach out to you, do
you want them to say that they saw
you here on unlearn the crap?
Definitely.
Yes, please.
Yes.
Tell me where you heard me.
Yes.
Reach out to me.
Get on.
Yeah, get on my website.
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Yes.
Send a message.
Be like, Oh, I heard you on unlearn
the crap.
Like, wow, my dad, did you open my
eyes to a lot of things?
Oh my god, that was a fire hose.
Whatever.
I'll take all the responses.
Well, I'm sure we did a lot of
fire hosing here because everything.
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And the one thing that I really want
everyone to really pay attention to, and it
is part of my absolute message is that
everything matters.
And when you talk about the correlation between
poop and how healthy and how successful and
how wealthy we are, it is all interconnected.
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We are interconnected, interrelated beings that are living
within an interconnected, interrelated system.
And we must, we must pay attention to
all of it.
Nikki, thank you so very much for all
of this information for everything you're doing for
not being ashamed to talk about our poop
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and the crap that we're dealing with, so
that we can all level up and become
the best versions of ourselves.
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