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October 2, 2025 61 mins

What if the patterns, trauma, and programming holding you back in business…aren’t even yours?

 In this episode of Unlearn the Crap & Level UP, I sit down with Lori Ellen Miller (from All Me By Design) to excavate how ancestral conditioning, generational beliefs, and cultural stories sneak into your brain, body, and business decisions. Lori gets raw about realizing she’d been operating under invisible programming and what it took to start undoing it.

If you’ve ever launched, pivoted, or scaled only to hit recurring walls…this conversation is for you. We unpack:

Why healing feels never-ending (and how to move through it)

How “unowned” trauma shows up in revenue, boundaries, offers, and visibility

The permission to admit you’re still unlearning

Real tools to shift your energy so your business can breathe 

✨ Soul Led Summit, October 9–11, 2025 Join us live as I present Finally — my podcast automation system — and Lori teaches Soul Cartography. This summit is designed for soul-led business owners ready to collapse the grind and speed up their success.

👉 Save your seat now: https://soulledmasterminds.com/optin?am_id=kathy2741

🔗 Connect with Lori: https://allmebydesign.com/

✨ More from me: https://kathybaldwin.me

📚 My books: Unlearn the Crap & Level UP + How I Unlearned MY Crap

🔑 Key Takeaways

Unlearning inherited crap: How ancestral DNA, generational trauma, and cultural conditioning silently block your business growth.

Healing isn’t one-and-done: Why peeling back one layer often reveals another, and how to stop shaming yourself for it.

The crap that isn’t yours: How to identify patterns you’ve been carrying that don’t belong to you — and how letting them go accelerates your business.

Fear + business: Why starting or scaling a business feels terrifying — and how tools like Soul Cartography and podcast automation collapse time and create clarity.

Soul-led success: Aligning with your truth in business leads to faster, more sustainable results than pushing through conditioning.

💬 Memorable Quotes From Kathy

“What if the crap you’re carrying isn’t even yours — and it’s blocking your business growth?”

“Unlearning isn’t a finish line. It’s a lifelong level-up.” 

“Starting a business is scary, but when you lead with your soul, success comes faster than you think.”

From Lori Ellen

“You think you’ve cleared it all, and then another layer shows up. That doesn’t mean you failed — it means you’re human.”

“So much of what runs our lives isn’t chosen by us. It’s inherited, programmed, and unconscious — until we decide to unlearn it.”

“Soul Cartography is about finding your true map, so you stop building a business on borrowed beliefs.”

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(00:02):
Hi, it's me, Kathy Baldwin. Your host of Unlearn
the Crap and Level Up Today is really
interesting because the question came up, what if the
crap you've been working so hard to heal wasn't even yours?
That's where my conversation with Lori Ellen went today.

(00:22):
We dug into how ancestral DNA,
generational patterns and cultural conditioning quietly
run our lives until we finally stop and ask,
does this even belong to me?
Laurie got real about the frustration of thinking you've
got it cleared all by now, only to have another layer

(00:45):
surface. And we laughed because we both know the truth.
Unlearning isn't a finish line. It's a lifelong
level up process. I also love that Lori
and I are standing shoulder to shoulder on the same mission.
She asked me to be a guest. On her Soul led business summit on

(01:06):
October 9 this year where I'll be sharing finally my
podcast automation system. And she'll be guiding you with her soul cartography.
We both believe that starting a business can be scary.
But if you begin with tools like hers and communities like this,
you can collapse the timeline and speed up your success.

(01:29):
I am passionate about people becoming totally.
Empowered and I am really proud to. Be a part of this summit.
So if you've ever felt stuck in patterns that aren't yours or wondered
how to take the next brave step in your own business, this episode
is going. To speak straight to your soul. Let's get started.

(01:54):
Welcome to Unlearn the Crap TV with your host,
Kathy Baldwin. Unlearn the Crap TV is more than just a
show. It's a movement towards breaking free from the disempowering
structures designed to benefit the few at the expense of the many.
It's about education, healing and unlearning the

(02:15):
detrimental beliefs that have been ingrained in society for generations.
So now please welcome the host of Unlearn the Crap tv,
Kathy Baldwin.
Welcome to another episode of Unlearn the Crap and Level Up.
Your soul is calling. I'm your host, Kathy Baldwin

(02:36):
and for those of you who are new to the
channel, let me explain what the definition of
crap is. It is an acronym and then
acronym stands for the condition responses in automatic programming.
The things that go into our thoughts, our feelings,
our beliefs. Whether it comes from our ancestral DNA

(03:00):
or it's programmed through marketing or society.
However it happens, our thoughts are mainly
on autopilot and that drives our emotions, which affects our
hormones, our biochemistry, our electromagnetic
energy that we are sending out. It is a direct connection

(03:20):
to our gut microbiome, our health and
our external circumstances. Our Our wealth,
our relationships, the success that we have in
our lives. Everything is interconnected
and interrelated, and everything matters.

(03:41):
Thank you, Lori, for being a part of the show.
Before we dive into this conversation, I'm going to ask you
question I ask every single guest first. What crap
did you need to unlearn so that you could level up?
Well, that's a loaded question. Because there is a lot,
as you well know, there's so many layers that can

(04:04):
come up, and you think you clear some crap and then some more comes up,
and then you clear a little more, and then a little more comes up.
But I would say one of the biggest things was learning to
own my voice and be willing to step out and stretch
my edges to share my story and help other women.
Oh, I love, love, love that.

(04:27):
That is one of the most fundamental
reasons why I do this podcast, is for everyone to get
their voice. So now that you've unlearned that crap,
how are you leveling up and serving the world with that voice?
Well, good thing you asked. I am known as the Soul

(04:47):
Ed business pathfinder, and it's
because I've lived through trauma and I've turned my pain into purpose
that I am able to help other women who have,
like your women have a lot of the conditioning,
a lot of the layers of things telling them of who they are

(05:07):
are not. And it's really helping them to own who they are.
They feel like they have a calling. They've done the inner work.
They. They know that they're meant for more. And I help
them bridge that gap from where they are to taking that calling
and turning it into a business that not only serves others,
but serves them as well. Oh, now you know

(05:31):
why I wanted you on this podcast. I mean, you could not be more
aligned with everything that I do. And because
I believe that every single one of us has crap
that we need to unlearn and that our soul is called.
There's a yearning, there's a calling that's happening in

(05:53):
our world, in our society,
but it's also within us. And it's time that
each and every person understands
that the power resides within them.
Yes. When you embrace that and
really own that part of yourself, and when I say own it, I'm talking about

(06:17):
owning all the good stuff as well as owning all the shadows,
because those shadows, the things you've been through, it's honoring them
as gifts. That your soul chose that
path for a higher purpose. How can you use that
to serve in a greater way and in your highest Expression.

(06:38):
Yeah, yeah, I.
I was one of those people that
was so ingrained in the shoulds
of what was expected of me that for
me, my journey led to being too strong
for too long. Letting the medical community over medicate

(07:03):
me to deal with the symptoms of being
out of alignment with who I am and where I belong.
And eventually you can only operate
out of alignment for so long and you will break.
Just like a house can only sit on

(07:24):
an uneven foundation for so long, eventually it
will crumble. That was that
crumbling is what broke me so that I could break
open. And my mission and my vision right now is to catch people before
they have their breakdown so that they can stop

(07:45):
the process at any time. Did you follow my path or
did you catch yourself early?
Well, no, it took me quite a
while. So in my work I use human design.
And with that I'm. If anyone knows that's watching
human design, I'm with a six line profile, which means I have three stages

(08:08):
in life. My first 30 years, all about being in it,
experience in it. Then 30 to 50, it's healing
and learning. So I went through this phase from 30 to 50 of healing,
learning, figuring it out,
surrendering, being vulnerable. Those were really two big
things that I had to redefine what those words meant for me.

(08:31):
I think that was my biggest turning point, was redefining what
it meant to surrender. Growing up in trauma, surrender meant something entirely different.
But when you surrender to spirit, source, the universe,
whatever you want to identify with, to me it was that soul connection I had
with spirit. Surrendering that way meant you were fully
safe and you could take the steps forward.

(08:55):
And being vulnerable, also a term that in the past,
being vulnerable wasn't good. But I realized there's a safe way to hold
your vulnerability. And that's where I'm at now is it's, I'm vulnerable
enough to share my story, to bring it to other women, to say, you're not
broken, there's nothing wrong, you don't need to be fixed.
Right. Because we can hold those things. To think there's something

(09:19):
wrong with me. Yeah, you know, it's all, you know,
sometimes it's, it's my fault, but then it's also there's something wrong with me because
I can't get past this. And being
vulnerable, surrendering, opening myself up to the possibilities
and opportunities that the world can bring,
just that was the, the moment that turned things around when I said,

(09:43):
you know what? My soul chose my life because it
knows I'm a badass, that can Go through whatever it is and come
out on the other side and use it to help other people.
Yeah. One of the principles of Unlearn the Crap
is that we live in a world of universal laws. And one of

(10:03):
the strongest laws we live in is we live in a
world of polarity. We can only experience light
with dark, cold with hot. We must have those
extremes. And I always believed that,
or I believe that our challenges,

(10:24):
our pains, our conflicts, our traumas are
the direct polar opposite of our gifts of
where we belong. And I love the way
you phrased how you took vulnerability where
it was disempowering and

(10:45):
you turned that into empowering. Could you
explain how surrender and
vulnerability changed for you? Because you're
right. When you're thinking of trauma and you think surrender,
you think defeat or victim or fear

(11:07):
instead of in flow, right?
Well, I think it comes from my deeper sense
of something bigger at hand.
Some people identify it as God, spirit, the universe.
And when I was younger, I was afraid to believe in

(11:29):
any of that because I thought, well, then I'll be tested, and then my
life is already hard enough, so why would I want that and invite that into
my life? That was my frame of mind. So I didn't allow
that to be part of who I was until much later in
life when I started to do the healing,
to do the learning to doing the forgiveness, the releasing.

(11:54):
Right. Because surrendering to the flow
means you're stepping into your power and you're being guided. And it's
not all the weight on your shoulders to have to carry it all.
So I believe there's life happens to
you, which means you're a victim. Then life happens

(12:14):
by me, which means it's all on me to have
to change it, to make it work. I have to do it. It's got to
happen by me. Then there's happens through you, which is
where, you know, we're striving and living is
when it happens through you, you're surrendering and you're trusting spirit
to come through you. And you have that faith to take the steps that you're

(12:37):
guided to do. And then the last one is as me. And that's like the
ultimate, which I don't know how many of us hold that as a
consistent. Unless you are, you know,
Jesus or, or, or one of the Buddhas
or something. So through me allows

(12:58):
you to have that peace, to be able to feel
safe, to be able to shift that
definition from vulnerable as being bad to
vulnerable, meaning, oh, I have the power to share my story
and Be vulnerable with people because they can still love and accept and

(13:18):
trust, and they may learn and grow and they may step out of their own
fears. They may step out of their own conditioning when they go, oh,
it's possible. Yeah.
Yeah. As you were talking and
you gave those four stages, all that
was coming into my mind is that we are both

(13:42):
energetic beings and we are physical
beings. And so as you were talking, I was
thinking about how the energy of our
electromagnetic being is directly
connected to the Earth. And so if we think about lightning,

(14:04):
we can be struck by lightning,
and if it goes through us, it doesn't
harm us, but if. If we're not grounded
that it can pass through, it can
electrocute us. Yes. And that's
as you were talking about that. I was thinking how. How those different stages,

(14:28):
it can either be empowering and safe
or very dangerous. Yes.
Yes. And when it comes through you, it is that.
Power. Not in the sense of, you know,
I'm powerful, but it's. It's a powerful energy that comes through you

(14:51):
that, you know, sometimes I talk and
I don't even know, like, I'm not logically thinking
of what I'm saying or what I'm going to do, but something comes through me
to speak to the person I'm talking to. And it's exactly what that person
needed to hear. But I didn't personally have to think about what they
needed to hear. It's something that just came through me. I've written a book that

(15:14):
way. It came through me. I've created my
system called Soul Cartography, where I map out your life's chosen
path using human design and astrology. It came through
me. It's not something I sat down and said, let me figure this out.
It was just, whoosh. This. Oh, my gosh, the picture came clear.

(15:34):
Oh, yes, yes, yes. That's exactly how unlearn the
crap was born. I. I was learning and
absorbing, and when I got rid
of all the blocks that were blocking me from integrated
and the picture became so clear, it was like instant

(15:55):
knowing. Yes.
Yeah. Okay, so tell me more about this whole cartography. I want
to know more about it. It sounds so exciting.
So I've. Many, many, many years ago is when I knew
my soul chose my life. I honored it as opposed to. I've heard so
many people say, well, my soul wouldn't have chosen that well. Yes, it would,

(16:18):
because it came with a higher mission. And we all came with a higher mission.
And it wasn't until years ago I started learning
human design. I fought It a little bit was like, no,
I don't want to be known for that, or I don't want to use that.
And then it just kept coming to me.
And then all of a sudden, I started putting these pieces

(16:39):
together of certain times in our developmental life
that certain gates are aligned and they're
in certain. In astrology, the house and sign. And I started seeing
the pattern. I was able to see the core wounds that we
bring into our lifetime that's helping us to

(17:00):
awaken us to who we are. I started seeing Chiron
is the wounded healer. And it's what you brought into this lifetime
so that you are here to help other people with. And it just
became this beautiful system that when
I stopped and looked at it, I was like, I just created that. Like,

(17:20):
what? But it goes through, like,
0 to 7, 7 to 14, 14 to 21,
all those life developmental stages in childhood.
And then I go into the cycles of our adulthood. And it
really helps to empower the person that is receiving
that, because you can see. Oh. So during my zero

(17:44):
to seven, when I'm learning safety and security, I'm able to help them identify
some of the higher lessons that were in that when
you made something up about yourself. Like, mom was on the
phone and you're tugging at her and saying, I want a cookie. And she's like,
stop it right now. I'm on the phone. Leave me alone. You could
make that mean, she doesn't love me. And then you could have a

(18:08):
certain association with food or love. You know,
there's things that you say, I don't like what happened. Like,
subconsciously, I don't like what happens, so I'm not gonna ask for what I
want anymore. Right. And if you
start to learn what happened during those stages, you can find power in it.
When you start seeing the higher expressions of what was going on on

(18:33):
a solar level, on a human design level.
And that's part of your blueprint. You were here to learn that lesson.
And then can you give an example. Of a core wound that would
allow us to see our sole
purpose? Because so many people are of what you

(18:54):
were saying earlier that so many people say, well, I wouldn't have chosen that.
Well, they're of this belief that life is supposed to be
easy and simple and not challenging, and we're not supposed
to have pain and we're not supposed to have anything bad happen. And life is
supposed to be this fairy tale, this is crap

(19:14):
that we were told. We are stronger than that, we are bigger than that.
We are more Powerful than that. And when you, you know,
I went through that stage where I thought there was. It was
me, it was my problem, I. There was something wrong with me
because life wasn't happy and I was just in struggle right
now. There is a time when I was just stuck in the life's happening

(19:38):
to me stage. But when you realize life isn't
supposed to be just if I'm happy, everything is going
well. That's not how we learn in life.
And it's embracing all the ups, all the downs, and knowing
you can still have your constant source of strength of
who you are, no matter if you're in your highs or in your lows.

(20:02):
Because when you really are, are in your true self.
I think I froze. Oh. When you're really in your true self,
then when it does get hard,
you will handle it differently than

(20:22):
you would have when you're stuck in the life's happening to me stage.
Yeah, because hard is relative to the drama of it.
Yeah, hard is relative. What is hard to
a kindergartner is easy for someone in high
school. And so hard is just

(20:42):
how we define it based on what stage of development we're
in. Right. And when you realize life is made of cycles,
it's not supposed to be just one constant. Happy, blissful.
And if I'm in joy, then I'm doing everything right. That's not
how it works. There's a cycle. Just like we have seasons,

(21:03):
we have spring, everything's blooming, it's beautiful.
We have summer, then fall, the leaves are falling. We have
winter, everything's shed. And then we have that contemplation.
And so it's. We as human beings go through that as well,
just with our life path. Like, we're walking down this path
and it's just a new scenery that comes along. But if you are standing strong

(21:26):
in. Who you are. That new scenery can
come along and you'll be able to like, oh, okay, this is happening.
Why? What's. What's. What's in this for me that is
showing up that I can, you know, utilize for the highest good.
Like, when something happens, like, what am I going to do with that?

(21:47):
I can get sucked into it and just like, oh, my God, I got a
flat tire. Right. And the socks.
Yeah, absolutely. If we
don't understand the universal law of rhythm and
the cycles that are out there, how could a
farmer know when to plant? You know, you would feel if you

(22:11):
were planting in the fall, and. And then, where's my harvest? And it
died. You know, it is understanding the. The seasons and
how to benefit from. From them that we can use that. So let's go
back to core wounds. Okay. Yeah.
Well, I would like to share really quick about when you were talking about planting,

(22:32):
because I think it's important for people to get. When you plant a seed,
you don't always see the benefits right away, but that
seed is working hard in the dark. It's struggling. It's got
to move through the dirt, move through the rocks so that it can come to
the light. When we're having those moments
of hard times, we're just that seed that's blooming and.

(22:54):
And erupting and coming into the light, and that's.
That's all it is. So we can stand in that seed,
that seed that knows exactly what it is. If it's an apple seed,
it knows it's an apple tree. So as it's pushing through
and struggling to get to the surface, it's not questioning itself and

(23:14):
saying, am I going to be a good peach tree? Should I be a,
you know, an olive tree? Like, what should I know?
It knows I'm an apple tree, and it goes there
and it moves through what it has to move through and hold strong to who
it is. Yes. And so I'll give you an example.

(23:34):
That that is the definition of empowerment is
know thyself and become aligned with yourself.
I love this. Okay, sorry, I didn't mean to.
I'll use from. For me. So in human
design, Gate 35 is my core wound, and it's all about adventure.

(23:55):
Right. So in a healthy way, it means
I step into new experiences. I don't have a problem
with that. But in a lower expression way, if I'm
bored and I just switch because I'm bored, that means
I'm not using it to its full strength. That means, oh, or this is
hard. Let me just change gears and I'll just ignore that. But, you know,

(24:18):
when you ignore some, it's going to come popping back around at you. So it's
learning what you're brought into this lifetime as your core wound.
And I can look back in my life and see where
I switched, because it was either hard or
I was bored, and it wasn't, you know, because when you do anything and you

(24:39):
step on an adventure, you don't get halfway up the mountain and go, all right,
well, I'm done with this. Let me go back down. And I would keep stopping
myself and not continue up through the hard part to
reach the summit, to reach that top.
So when I could Start to embrace, like, oh, I see
this pattern that I keep doing. I then could

(25:02):
identify it. And when you can identify something, you then can have power over it.
Yeah. One of the things I absolutely
love is I used to be
a stock trader, and so I learned about Fibonacci.
And when I learned about Fibonacci and the golden ratio and how

(25:25):
we have these repeated patterns
in nature, Everything thing is a
pattern. And when we can see and understand the. The pattern,
then we can make conscious choices,
which is. I don't know if you've heard, but I

(25:46):
just recently released a book called the Unlearned Life, where I
am using AI to help me identify my patterns.
So when I'm stuck in something and I can't see the forest for the
trees, I can give AI all of that information
and say, help me see what I can't see.
How did you get the clarity of sight without

(26:11):
AI.
So I do. I think I'm a course
junkie or a healing junkie. I don't know what to call it,
but I took a lot of courses. I read a lot of books. I.
My path is. I went inward first so

(26:33):
that I could integrate, and then from that integration,
I could then help other women.
And, you know, once I got into my 50s
and I started coming out online, I started having some
physical. Well, I've had those before. Some physical issues show up,
but the biggest thing was finding

(26:55):
a group of women where there was no expectation for you
to show up as anything other than who you are, that they could hold you
when you're up, hold you when you're down, and just be there and allow you
to be you. And you in turn, allow them to
just show up as them. Having that kind of support

(27:17):
system, I think was a huge turning
point for me doing the work I do. Yeah.
You know, I did a lot on my own growing
up. I felt like I had to be strong, had to do it on my
own. The healing and learning, doing it all
on my own. But I did the integration work, but to really,

(27:41):
really break free. And it goes back to that.
Being vulnerable, joining a group and being in a community of
other women. Game changer.
Like, beyond.
Absolutely. One of the. One of the things that I
feel strongly about is the disempowerment

(28:05):
and that we have been experiencing has
been because women were being pitted against each other.
And that bond of support that
women have had through history
has been broken in the last couple of hundred years.

(28:27):
Yeah. And we are. We are lost without our sisterhood because
women, women then have to step into their masculine
in order to be supported. And that's not
where we're in our authentic goddess, where we are connected
to our creative energy, our magical alchemy,

(28:50):
to be able to transmute what we have into something beautiful,
creative and chaotic and wild and sensual
and all these other things. We can't
do that if we're being forced to be controlled
and structured because we don't have that

(29:11):
support. Or when you feel
like you have to just do it alone. Yeah.
You know, and, you know, like, I have my work and I do my
work and. But I have this. No one else is doing my
work for me, but I have this group that
just feels like a safe haven of people that are

(29:34):
just, like, rooting for you and boosting you up. And, you know, it feels good
to have somebody that's got your back and. Or that you can just say,
man, I'm having a really tough day. Or, man, you know what?
I just completed, you know, like, so, you know, I'm doing
the summit. Right. A soled business summit, having some people to share and just
say, I'm doing this summit. And I am so excited that

(29:58):
I'm going to invite 18 speakers to come and talk at this summit and
they could cheer you on. And that, I think, too, is we
forget to celebrate, especially when we're doing it by
ourselves. We forget to celebrate the steps.
We can tend to focus on all the other things

(30:19):
that we have to do yet, as opposed to like, but look what I like.
Oh, yeah. Like, we don't pat ourselves on
the back. Like, we have people that help and remind us to.
Absolutely. First of all, I'm one
of the speakers on your summit, and I am thrilled and excited

(30:39):
to be a part of this because I am so believing
in what you're doing and helping other people find their
authenticity so that they can step into their zone of genius and.
And make things better. But you touched on something that I want
to talk about before we lose it and go into to talking about

(31:00):
the business and the summit and all of that. And that was.
We have normalized the bad.
We're okay to complain. How are you?
Oh, this hurts. And this happened. And we have these contests where,
oh, you think that's bad? Let me tell you what happened to me

(31:21):
or what I'm going through. And. And we actually have
turned it into a contest. Things are worse for me. No, they're worse for
me. But we haven't normalized standing
in our place of celebrating and
saying, I got this. I did this. I'm proud

(31:43):
of myself and all these other things.
So thank you so much for saying that.
Yes. And when I've actually, I personally left groups
because there was that feeling of the, oh,
well, this sucks, or this, you know, and there was no conversation

(32:03):
of, well, this happened. It sucks.
But I'm here to, like, make it better, ask myself
some empowering questions. I'm here to turn it around. There's such a different feeling because
it's important to share those moments that
suck, but not to get sucked into the drama and staying at that negative,

(32:24):
lower vibration of it. That's the huge difference. Allow yourself
to go through the cycles, the ups and downs, but stay in your higher
vibrational frequency as opposed to getting sucked into the drama
of the. To me stage. That's all that is. It's victimhood.
Yeah. We do need to feel our feelings. We do

(32:45):
need to let those hormones,
those chemicals go through our body.
Otherwise it turns into poison in us.
So it is healthy to be able to say,
this hurt, or I'm struggling,
but that's vulnerable. That's not whining and complaining.

(33:06):
Exactly. Yeah. And that's the huge difference
between the two of those and the groups that I left was because I felt
that energy of they just wanted to stay stuck in that. And I found the
groups and the women and the people who held
that higher vibrational pattern and allowed you, like I said, to show up,

(33:28):
be you. But they're not there to support the
whining, complaining. They don't jump into it.
Yeah. Yeah. That has been part of
my. My transformation and my leveling up,
too, is finding those places and those
people. Because one of the trauma

(33:52):
responses that people do, but a lot of
women is we isolate and we. And we hide
and we feel. Yeah, we feel that if
we aren't performing at our absolute best,
then we failed. And we can't let anyone know we failed,

(34:14):
because now we will be judged. And if we're judged, we're cast
out. Then it goes right into our ancestral core wounds.
So we're coming back to core wounds. Lori, I want
to talk about this summit, but we got to go to core wounds.
What are core wounds? What do they look like? And what benefit

(34:34):
do they give us to understand what core wounds we have?
Well, core wounds can look different for every single person.
They're very unique, depending on your DNA, your makeup,
when you were born, what you're bringing into this life, your life experiences, they all
kind of culminate into that. A core

(34:54):
wound is something for you to deeply learn.
Is it Archetypal,
it's my belief is. So in human design,
there's a core wound. It's the unconscious Mars in human design and
the gate that's associated with it. And the line is,

(35:15):
what is going to help you understand your core wound? Okay, it is
something we brought into this lifetime which
will help us awaken by experiencing this
core wound. Which means it's part of the unpleasantries of
life, right? We go through the struggle, the hard,

(35:36):
but witnessing when it's showing up, what am
I choosing? Am I choosing the victimhood of it,
staying in the wound of it? Or am
I healing? Am I allowing myself to go through the process
of embracing that part of myself? Because it's part of me.

(35:56):
I can't deny it. So when you embrace it,
when you fully embody it, you can then
start to use it to awaken you to your patterns
and then make choices from that place.
I'm pulling up my human design chart. I want
to know where will I see what my core core wound is?

(36:20):
Because anyone can pull up their human design chart. They need
you to really work with it effectively. But if someone
just wants to know, where would they find it? So on there's two
sides of the chart. Depending on where you ran
your chart, it might say personality and one says design.

(36:41):
Okay? It could be conscious or unconscious, but the one
that's the design side, there's a little circle that
has an arrow that pointing up from it,
and that's called your unconscious Mars.
Okay, Lori, I just showed you my human
design chart. I'm a manifester, I know that.

(37:04):
Tell me what you saw
as a core wound because I really want people to understand
that this core wound has a purpose.
It does. So your core wound is gate 64,
and it's in line six what that means

(37:26):
in the core wound, if you go into a state of
confusion, it can either stop you because
you're confused, and if you think back in your life that cowboys like, I don't
know what to do next and how does this work? And I need to have
all the answers and I'm a little bit confused, it can stop you.
My. I personally call that gate the portal of imagination.

(37:49):
But imagine in your shadow of
it, you're not using your imagination and you're just stuck.
You're stuck in what is, and you're confused about what
to do next. It can hold you back. But when you allow yourself
to step into the higher expression, you can let your imagination start

(38:09):
to empower you into what's possible and
not know the answers. So I'm
one of those people when my central nervous system gets triggered,
I go into freeze. Is that what you're talking about?
That could very well do that. Because your mind is like, I don't know what

(38:30):
to do. I'm stopped. I'm confused about what to
do. It's holding you back. And you can. It's. It's up in the
head center. So that's the top one. If anybody's looking at a human design
chart, it's the top little triangle. And it
is the place where your imagination can run free with this gate.

(38:52):
And it can be really powerful for you to open up with empowering
questions and see the possibilities of what can be without
being stuck to anyone in particular.
Do you know what I just realized? I told you that I
wrote the book the Unlearned Life, and it came out of how I use

(39:13):
AI ChatGPT for my own. One of
the things that was major that I did was say,
I need to see this. Help me
envision what this looks like, play with me with these thoughts,
make it real. And as soon as I could get my head into

(39:34):
a place where I could have that clarity, now I'm not
stuck anymore. Yep. And that is you using that
core wound in its highest expression. You have let
go of being stopped and stuck by confusion, by limitation,
and you're utilizing the higher expression of it by saying,

(39:56):
oh, I can see, and I can imagine this to be
so in this way, but not being stuck, that it has to be that
particular way or that I have to have all the pieces together before
I allow myself to take the step. You can step into that.
That vision.
So that is the beauty of knowing your human design and

(40:19):
knowing yourself is that when you have these situations
happen now, you already have a set of tools that
says, oh, when this happens, I can do this.
Yes. And how. You know,
just like you were saying, what you unlearn, it's knowing there's shadows

(40:40):
to each one of the gates in human design. So when you start to learn,
oh, I can step into this shadow, but I can
see what the gifts are. And then you can start to embrace
that part of you, and then it can transform into the higher expression.
But embracing everything through the process, knowing that that shadow that

(41:02):
you are expressing is part of your design, there's nothing
wrong with you. It's just you unlearning the
things that you were conditioned to think you were or were not.
And it's really empowering when you step into
that. And, you know, I'm. I'm co hosting the summit.

(41:23):
And then from that summit we're doing a workshop. But it's Dana
and I and we, we do a mastermind. It's called Designed to Serve and
it's where it's only for women. And we focus on helping women get
visible by getting really clear on who they serve,
what their messaging is, what kind of program,
course one on one. What suits you and your energy. Because a business

(41:47):
shouldn't just be, I'm here to serve others. Your business should also serve
you from your soul. It's not separate from your soul. It's your soul's mission.
Yeah. And if you are doing a business that's out of
alignment with who you are, you're not going to
be providing the service at the level that you can.

(42:08):
So you're doing a disservice and
you're going to end up getting sick. So let's talk about
the summit. How did you envision this?
How did you create this? What was the vision that you wanted to bring to
life? I am highly driven

(42:28):
to help other women. That is I
think in the core of me to help women to own who they are.
And to me it's not only the women who will be attending,
but I'm also serving and supporting all the speakers,
all the people who are coming to talk and help the women. Now we do

(42:49):
have one or two men that are going to be talking,
but they bring. I'm a Virgo. I have to have some practical
stuff in there. So I have some CRM information and
some merchant information for you to help with your business side of things.
But I just,

(43:10):
from my heart, I felt introducing
other people to help them in their service like
that just tickles me pink. Like I get excited
thinking I am supporting others to
bring their service to other people, to new people. And all

(43:32):
of the people attending are going to receive so
much information. And another important factor to me is everyone
has a little bit of a different take, a little bit of different what
they're going to talk about. Right. So some are talking about visibility,
some are talking about how to speak, some are human design related, some are

(43:54):
talking about insurance. Right. There's a whole bunch of different types of things
they're going to be talking about because I wholeheartedly believe
what my way is, isn't necessarily your way.
And I want to give you options to see what resonates with
you. So I wanted to bring together a plethora of people

(44:15):
to come and speak so you could hear different viewpoints,
you can connect and resonate With. With who? Who connects
with you? Who is on that level that when you hear their voice,
you're like, oh, I want to know more.
So who's the summit for? Is it for women who are already

(44:36):
in business or women who are considering transitioning
into business? Well, that would
actually. It's a soled business summit. So it's for a spiritually
aware woman who has a calling. Whether you are
working a 9 to 5 and you have a calling, but you don't know how

(44:56):
you can turn that calling into a business. Or it could be you're
starting, but you haven't quite bridged
from. Okay, I know that I'm here to do more and serve more,
but I haven't gotten over here yet to make it happen.
Yeah. Or you've been trying. Like this is my personal experience.

(45:16):
Tried for years and years. And I'm like, it's not working.
What's going on? And until I could get the pieces
and understand some of the other parts of running the business and
connect with the people that I needed to connect with. Right. So it's
for that woman who's just been struggling, she's stuck. She hasn't fully

(45:39):
stepped in, claimed who she is and say,
I'm here to serve. Whoever their ideal client is,
whoever that is, they haven't had the confidence to
do it. Maybe they haven't found what suits
their energy. Like you said, you're a manifester. I'm a manifesting generator.
My co host is a projector. We have totally different energy types.

(46:03):
Right. So it's when you have to learn from your
energy. Yeah. For me,
I thought because I had
this knowledge and I'd gone through this massive transformation
that it I. That I was responsible
for coaching. And so my

(46:28):
business evolved into coaching, a desire to help, to heal.
But it was a struggle and I was going down wrong
paths of people telling me. And it wasn't until
I learned that I was a manifester and realized
I was never designed to be in the weeds.

(46:51):
My brain is a big picture thinker. And when
somebody's looking for a coach, they want someone in the weeds, someone who's
detail oriented, somebody who can help guide them step by
step. And when I learned that, I went,
I don't have to do this.
That's not who I am. I was freed.

(47:15):
Yes. And that's when I came alive.
Yes. And that's what I want for women to come
alive in being who you truly are. Come alive
within yourself because it shines like
it just comes through you. There's Nothing you have to do

(47:37):
that's outside of you. It's. It's when you start to naturally have
it come through you of really loving and being alive with
who you are. You're still going to have the ups and downs, but you're going
to handle it differently. And then you're going to take the steps that are
leading you down your path.

(47:58):
Right. And knowing that
you can now trust yourself to make the choices when
you're following that. Yeah.
Yeah. That's the whole thing, is trusting the road ahead
of you. Yeah. One of the reasons
why I was so excited to be a part

(48:22):
of your summit is because of this paradigm
shift that our world is in. And I believe with
every ounce of my soul that we are being
called to bring our power
to the individual, that we are moving away from

(48:42):
massive corporations that have the control and the power,
and we are moving in more into entrepreneurship.
Very much like we were before we were an industrialized
revolution. You know, somebody was a baker and somebody was a farmer
and somebody was a seamstress. Like, everybody was doing their own
thing. That was part of the entire community. And I think we're going back

(49:06):
there. But there are so many people who have this crap.
The condition responses that say, I'm supposed to be a J O B or
this is how my life has evolved and this is where I am and
I don't know how to start over. And I love
that you're bringing these people together so that we
can all be exposed to

(49:30):
enough different perspectives and ideas that
it'll arrive for people instead of them forcing.
Yes, very much so. I think that's very
poignant what you just said, because so many times when we're in the buy me
stage, it's. I'm forcing something to happen. I know personally,

(49:53):
when I was in that stage when I would force things to happen, like,
I know this is the right thing, so I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna make
it happen every time.
Yeah. Soldier on. Put on our big girl panties. Let's right,
suck it up. Do it. You know, you got. You know, and I know this
is the right thing, so I'm gonna make it happen instead of allowing myself to

(50:16):
just follow my own rhythm and flow because
when I would force it, it inevitably didn't work out. And then I was just
frustrated. I was disappointed. I lived in like,
what's wrong with me? I didn't. That bombed or that didn't work. What's. You know,
how come I couldn't make it work? I know that that's what I was supposed
to. And all the inner chatter just started talking to

(50:39):
me and stuff. Yeah. So it's releasing the fact that you have to
force something to happen and start to learn to trust your
instincts, start to trust yourself to make the choices and
that you're. When you're stepping into the flow, you still have to do hard things,
but you can step into the flow and you can handle everything that comes at
you. Yeah. Hard things are

(51:01):
different than trying to force and push
and control. Because we come back to
right where we started this conversation, which was surrender
and vulnerability. And you were saying how
when you let go of that control and you surrendered,

(51:22):
the information arrived. It was already there.
It was just being blocked by that wall. Right. I.
I use the. I say it's like you have the horses
that have blinders on. Right. That's what it's like.
And when you can let down and you take those off, like,

(51:42):
oh, there's more around me, I can see more things and
more things can come in. But you've created this singular focus, this limited
way of looking at things. But when you can let
those blinders and take those off, that's when the stuff can start
coming in. When you can start trusting the data that's going to come to you.

(52:03):
Trusting the inspirations.
Yeah. Yes. And it. That is a physical
part of our body too. Because our brain only allows in
that which we have deemed important.
And if we are blocking access to the

(52:24):
opportunities or the possibilities because we are so stuck on soldiering
on, our brain can't even respond. Perceive what's
right in front of us as opportunities or possibilities or inspiration.
Or when you're live. Living in your limiting beliefs.
Yes. You're crap. Right. When you're living in the fear. The fear

(52:47):
of not being enough or the fear of being too much.
Right. The. The fear of failure, the fear of success and,
and fear and love. They don't live in the same space. You have
to choose one or the other.
Yes. Yes. I, I always say

(53:08):
that fear is the warning sign.
The warning sign that says you are
no longer on automatic pilot. You need
to make a decision and take control of the wheel.
And so if we're feeling fear, that is our body saying

(53:28):
you're going the wrong way. Could you make a U
turn at the nearest available or.
You know, I also found fear shows up when
you're at your edge of success. You're. Or I don't even like the word success
for that. Fear shows up when you're at the edge of stretching Yourself beyond the

(53:48):
boundaries that you've set for yourself. So when I started coming online.
Wow. Did my trauma fear start to show up?
Yeah. It was like, no, you can't do this.
Because it was just a fear. Even though it's what I know I'm here to
do and I'm guided to do. It wasn't that I had to not

(54:11):
do it, but it will have. I had to learn to love my body
enough to say, I understand that you're in a. In a fear response.
No. And at that moment when I was in
that position of like, oh, my God, I had an anxiety attack.
First one ever, I thought, I can't do

(54:32):
this. I can't be online. I just can't.
And logically, my brain was going, this isn't a big deal.
I don't understand what's going on. Like, my brain was
thinking, not a big deal. My body, on the other
hand, was like, I don't know if I can cuss, but I would if I
could right now. All right? My body

(54:55):
was saying, you. I don't trust you. You can't do this.
And it lasted for a whole day. And the next day, I just put my
hands up and I said, if this is something I need to do, you need
to help me, because I can't. And I surrendered,
and I got my answer within 10 minutes.

(55:17):
Right. And it was something. A video that I could watch.
And I literally like, oh, I understand this. It was scientific. I love
science. And it was like, oh, I could do this.
Did the exercise that day. I did the video again. Now,
it wasn't perfect, and I was okay with that, but I did it. I celebrated.
I'm like, I looked at the camera a couple times, and I smiled a

(55:39):
couple times, and it was like, I did it. And then I did it again
the next day and the next day. So sometimes it's the
fear shows up because it's. You're stretching yourself
beyond the confines of what your.
Your normal is. But when you're growing and
expanding, you're going to push those edges. Yes.

(56:02):
And that's why it's great to have people
around you who will support you in that and not go,
oh, well, then just don't do it. Yeah. They can say they
can ask you the questions or help you through it, to know, is it something
you should not do, or is it something you're just at your edge and we're
here to support you while you're going through it? Yeah.

(56:26):
Well, that could not be a better segue
to inviting Everyone to your summit.
If people are listening to this after and they miss
the summit, we will have in the show notes where
they can reach you and find you. But in the meantime, for those who

(56:49):
are going to see this and hear this in time, when is
the summit? Who's it for and how can they attend?
Okay, so the summit is October 9th, 10th and 11th,
starts at 11am Eastern Time each day.
We have six speakers that are going to come on each day.
So it's only a few hours. It's not an all day exhaust

(57:12):
you kind of summit.
And it is for spiritually aware women. Souled. You have
a calling and you want to serve in your highest
expression and you want to create something that has a foundation,
something that you are supported in.
And you're going to get lots of tidbits and information about how to

(57:34):
be visible, how to speak,
little information about yourself. The new era. We have somebody coming in talking
about the new era, so that's kind of exciting. But yeah, it's filled
with speakers that I chose because
I knew they would serve and help the women that

(57:56):
I know I'm called to serve.
Thank you, Lori, for being a guest on Unlearn
the Crop. Thank you for inviting me to your soled
business summit. I can't wait to
be there. For those of you who are wondering what I'll be talking about,

(58:18):
I will be talking about how podcasters can
turn their podcast into a
profitable business without a team and without burnout
because I've created an entire automation system that
will hold and support and so I'm going to share how to make it a

(58:38):
profitable system, system for podcasters so
that they can bring their voice to the world.
I love that. I love that you're bringing that. Yes,
yes, yes. Talking about full circle. Your, your unlearning
was to get your voice back and I'm going to be talking about how people

(58:59):
can create a business out of their own voice.
Thank you, Lori. I can't wait to see you on October 9th.
And I encourage everyone, everyone who is listening to
check Lori out. Hopefully you can make it to the summit. You hear this in
time. But if you didn't remember she has her soul cartography that

(59:19):
can help guide you so that you can have your own epiphanies.
Time to challenge everything so
that you can achieve anything.
Your soul is calling you to level up. And I am Kathy
Baldwin and and I can't wait to see you on the next episode of Unlearn

(59:41):
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you. How I Unlearned My Crap,
which is my raw story of breaking free
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