She thought pleasing everyone was love until it cost her health, identity, and voice.
 Eleanor MacDonald unlearned self-abandonment and rebuilt from truth.
In this powerful episode, Kathy Baldwin sits down with Eleanor MacDonald, a transformational coach and trauma-informed healer who knows what it means to lose yourself while trying to keep everyone else happy. Together, they talk about breaking the pattern of self-sacrifice, the roots of emotional codependency, and the moment Eleanor chose self-worth over survival.
You'll hear how to recognize when caretaking becomes control, why self-trust is the foundation of healing, and how choosing yourself doesn't make you selfish—it makes you whole.
👉 Connect with Eleanor: https://eleanormacdonald.com
📚 Explore Kathy's books: Unlearn the Crap & Level UP: Your Soul Is Calling and How I Unlearned MY Crap — available on Amazon and bookstores.
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Eleanor MacDonald
"Self-abandonment wears a mask called loyalty."
"I thought love meant losing myself—until my body said no."
"Healing began the moment I told the truth, even when my voice shook."
"Boundaries aren't walls; they're bridges to respect."
Kathy Baldwin
"You can't pour truth from an empty self."
"Every pattern you unlearn is a door to freedom."
"Choosing yourself is not selfish—it's sacred."
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