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May 14, 2025 58 mins
What do you do when a guest says something that doesn’t sit right—and you stay silent?

If you’re Kathy Baldwin, you don’t brush it under the rug. You come back, tell the truth, and invite the conversation to go deeper. In this two-part episode, Kathy and guest Dr. Brad Montagne explore fascia, hormonal healing, and nervous system truths—but it’s what happened off-script that became the real medicine.

A controversial comment about womanhood cracked something open. What followed was not a cancellation—but a conscious conversation. Together, they model how discomfort can lead to alignment, how disagreement can birth understanding, and how empowerment is born when we challenge old programming with grace.

🎧 Listen to part 1 (the followup) full two-part experience now.

📚 Books: Unlearn the Crap & Level UP and How I Unlearned MY Crap—available at kathybaldwin.me and on Amazon

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🎙️ Key Highlights:
  • CRAP to Unlearn:
    • That motherhood is a woman’s highest calling
    • That silence equals peace
    • That womanhood is defined by biology, not alignment
  • Kathy’s Personal Tie-In:
    During the original interview, Kathy defaulted to her “Good Girl” programming. Rather than ignoring her discomfort, she invited Dr. Brad back to co-create a follow-up dialogue that models healthy disagreement and sovereign truth-telling.
  • Science & Stats Backing the Shift:
    • Pew Research (2021): 44% of U.S. non-parents aged 18–49 don’t expect to have children—primarily by choice
    • Biological fact: The placenta is formed by fetal DNA, making pregnancy the responsibility of both bodies—not just the woman’s
    • Gender biology: Sex differentiation begins from the same structures and hormones in all fetuses, challenging the binary narrative
  • Patterns Listeners May Relate To:
    • Freezing in moments of misalignment
    • Struggling with societal "shoulds" around motherhood
    • Feeling like you need permission to speak your truth
    • Living out roles that don’t reflect who you are
  • Cultural Myths Debunked:
    • Woman = Mother
    • Biology defines identity
    • Public disagreement is shameful
    • Truth-telling ruins relationships
  • Unique Format:
    This two-part episode includes the original interview and a real-time Beyond the Interview segment where Kathy reclaims her voice. Together, they demonstrate how alignment, not agreement, creates the most powerful growth.
💡 Memorable Quotes: Kathy Baldwin:
  • “I betrayed myself by staying silent. This is what healing in real time looks like.”
  • “Unlearn the Crap is not about being polite—it’s about being in alignment.”
  • “We are not binary. We’re biochemical, hormonal, spiritual beings—alive in the gray.”
  • “What if fear is just a signal that it's time to take the wheel?”
Dr. Brad Montagne:
  • “Respect doesn’t require agreement. It requires a respectable process.”
  • “We all have knee-jerk belief reflexes—until we bring them into the light.”
  • “Healthy dialogue clears the air, not the person.”
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