April 24, 2025 • 35 mins
In the second season premiere, Josh digs into two years’ of research into the lives and crimes of Steven Lorenzo and Scott Schweickert, in hopes of identifying other victims. A list of 25 missing and murdered men, across multiple jursidctions, launches a deep-dive investigation that examines the lives of these 25 men, Lorenzo & Schweickert, other area serial killers, intersectionality, homophobia, politics, and more.
This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
Featuring:
Albert Perkins
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This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
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- CharleyProject.org
- The Tampa Bay Times
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I guess like what I would ask is, what would
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That if there is potentially that they feel like he's
connected to more, that they would choose their resources, all
their resources, and investigate this case thoroughly before they put him,
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and that information dies with him.
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In December of twenty twenty two, nineteen years after Jason
Galehaus and Michael Wacholds disappeared, Stephen Lorenzo was finally found
guilty of their murders. This was six years after Scott
Schweikert took a plete deal and was sentenced to life
in prison for his involvement in their abductions, torture, and
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eventual deaths, and on February twenty fourth of twenty twenty three,
almost twenty years after their murders, Stephen Lorenzo was sentenced
to death. In the two years since the Studio Both
and team has researched and then continued to research the
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lives and crimes of Stephen Lorenzo and Scott Schweikert and how, where, when,
and with whom their lives and crimes may have intersected.
Because one thing has been made abundantly clear through our
research and our initial reporting on this case, with additional
allegations and individual histories of violence against men going as
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far back as at least nineteen eighty eight, the crimes
that these two men are sitting in prison for were
just the tip of the iceberg, because beyond those additional allegations,
there were threats of violence against men that they encountered
online and in gay bars, men they allegedly drugged and
took home, and there were rather convictions assault, battery, drug trafficking,
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false imprisonment. The most notable to our team was that
Lorenzo and or Schweikert had lived in at least three
different places at the exact times where gay men were
disappearing at a significant rate in those areas Central Florida, Georgia,
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and in the upper Midwest along the I eighty corridor. So,
with some urging from Albert Perkins, a surviving victim of
Stephen Lorenzo, we decided to continue our investigation and reporting.
We decided to look into other potential crimes committed by
Lorenzo or Schweikert, or both of them together. I hired
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a private investigator. We met with local law enforcement. We
traveled to Tampa. We filed a dozen or so more
for youer requests. We built a robust timeline. We combed
through the Tampa Pedee and federal court files. We examined
both exhibit and search in seizure lists. We chronicled every
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single screen name and user name that we could find.
We performed digital data mining, and we built a search tool.
Parameters we could use to begin searching for potential victims
in missing persons, unidentified persons, and unsolved murder's databases. So
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let's begin with those parameters. We determined that there were
three different victim types, one younger gay men who frequented
gay bars, clubs, and party scenes. This is the victimology
of both Wachholtz and Gaelhouse and seem to be the
preferred methodology of Lorenzo and Schweikert for targeting men in
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the Tampa area. Two area men who lived on the periphery,
men who struggled with drug addiction, who lived on the streets,
who needed money, Vulnerable male populations who would be easy
to manipulate or control with the promise of drugs or money.
Men who also could easily disappear, as noted by both
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Lorenzo and Schweikert in some of their AOL chats and
three closeted questioning men. One of the strongest witnesses in
the case against Stephen Lorenzo was Witness A, who you
may recall, was a man who identified as straight, lived
his life as a straight man, but encountered Lorenzo and
Schweikert online in a gay chat for him, and was
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lured to Lorenzo's house with the promise of sex. The
two men would drug witness A, assault him for hours,
rape him, and eventually let him go with the threat
of murder. Witness Ay was a father married to a
woman who was in Tampa on a business trip. No
one in his life knew he was gay, or at
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least questioning, which made it unlikely that he would report
his assault and harder to connect any disappearance to the
gay community had Lorenzo and Schweikert actually murdered him. Lorenzo
had discussed in his AOL chats with Schweikert that this
was one of his ideal fantasies, drugging, assaulting, and perhaps
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even killing white collar straight men. We started our searches
in Florida, where we believe both men were active during
the time frame. We know one or both men were
in the state nineteen eighty eight through two thousand and
four when Lorenzo was arrested. We don't know the exact
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date or even year that Lorenzo moved from the Northeast.
We have him living on Long Island in and around Albany,
New York, and near Philadelphia between his birth in nineteen
fifty nine and somewhere around nineteen eighty eight. We were
able to find Florida driver's licenses issued to Lorenzo going
as far back as nineteen ninety five. However, there are
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two interviews with Florida area men who claim to have
met Lorenzo in Florida in nineteen eighty nine, men who
became and maintained friendships with Lorenzo, so our best guess
is that he moved to the area at some point
between eighty eight and eighty nine. From our searches, we
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excluded the following babies and children, teenagers aged thirteen to sixteen,
men over forty years old, anyone believed to have disappeared
while on a boat, any case where there was a
strong or undeniable suspect, and women or any one female presenting.
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In our searches, we did include the following criteria l
G B t Q plus and straight men between the
ages of seventeen and forty years old. This would include
any one presenting as male. That search alone resulted in
twenty five missing or murdered men who could be potential
victims of Stephen Lorenzo and or Scott Schweikert. And that
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was just in Florida alone, But there were still strong
reasons to believe that the men could have been active
in many other states, but specifically Georgia, South Carolina, Illinois,
New York, and Pennsylvania. And there were very good reasons
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to believe that the two men could have drugged, raped, assaulted,
or killed at least twice that number. During a June second,
two thousand four search of Lorenzo's house, Tampa, Peedee discovered
polaroids and homemade videos of more than twenty men in
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various stages of bondage, including men who appeared to be
unconscious and in some instances deceased. They also found an
envelope labeled missing Guy Articles, which contained newspaper articles relating
to the disappearances of Jason Galehouse, Michael Wachole's and Dad,
and other unnamed missing or dead men. Additionally, they found
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that Lorenzo had been keeping track of a slew of
missing men cases out of Georgia, which was something that
came up at least three different times in the police interviews. First,
in an interview with Lorenzo's friend and neighbor, he told
police that Lorenzo had talked about the disappearances of the
two gay Tampa guys, referring to Gaelhouse and Wokles, and
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said that he believed that they were likely targets of
a serial killer who was also abducting men in Georgia.
A second time, when the police interviewed a former cellmate
of Scott Schweikert's. They asked if Scott spent any time
in Georgia, and the cellmate told police that Schweikert once
lived in South Carolina and often visited Georgia. And the
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third time is when a friend of Lorenzo's said that
Lorenzo couldn't help him with a home renovation project in
mid December of two thousand and three because he was
going to Georgia for the weekend. And this week in
getaway could be connected to chat records between Lorenzo and
Schweykurt where they repeatedly discussed targeting a hustler out of Georgia.
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Through a background check and additional arrest records, we were
able to determine that Scott did, in fact live in
Lads in, South Carolina, a suburb of Charleston, about one
hundred miles from the South Carolina and Georgia state line,
and we can place Scott there as early as December
of nineteen ninety nine and as late as August first
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of two thousand one. However, background checks also placed Schweikert
living in Athens, Georgia at some point in nineteen ninety
nine and again at a similar address in two thousand.
It's possible he bounced around between the two towns, which
are only about four hours apart, but there were other
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ways to search for victims. Through the case files, we
had a list of thirty six screen names who engaged
in sexual chat with Lorenzo on AOL, and while AOL
is now generally reserved for baby boomers, it was the
epicenter of online gay culture in the late nineties and
early oughts, and equally important, its data has been breached many, many,
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many times, meaning if you know how to navigate data
leaks like I do, you can start using data breach
databases to search for those thirty six screen names and
then use other data mining techniques to see where else
they've been used online and where else they've potentially been
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breached online. But some of the most critical information to
help us identify victims were the dates we got from
the files, specifically photos and videos taken from Lorenzo's comput
uter digital camera and camquarder that had date stamps and
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in some cases names. Photos and videos of men tied up,
sometimes unconscious, always naked, and in some cases very likely deceased,
so we could run NamUs and Charlie project searches using
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our parameters, and then run that against our data mining
the dates and names found on Lorenzo's digital media and
our timeline defined at the very least patterns but very
likely other victims. I began by making lists of exhibits
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submitted by the state to be used at Lorenzo's trial,
where those exhibits were found, what they contained, and any
notes that seemed relevant to our investigation. It seemed like
the most practical way to use actual evidence to search
for potential victims or connections, and what felt like an
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otherwise never ending rabbit hole. First were photos that had
been downloaded to Lorenzo's computer. The files don't mention download
dates nor their origins, but it was clear that some
of those photos were taken by Lorenzo and Schweikert themselves.
They included one photo labeled constr nman at aol dot com,
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one of Stephen Lorenzo's multiple AOL usernames. One photo was
labeled top Dominator, another AOL username that we haven't been
able to identify yet. Two photos were of a man
tied to Lorenzo's bed, two photos were of a young
boy and a third was of that boy's feet, and
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then there were multiple downloaded photos of men tied up, chained, caged, bagged,
wrapped in plastic, and or being injected. It's unclear whether
these were photos Lorenzo found online or photos that he
took himself. However, there were no notations of these photos
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appearing to be taken in Lorenzo's home or any known locations.
Next up were videos seized from Lorenzo's residence, one video
dated December eighteenth, two thousand three, and another dated January fourth,
two thousand four. What's interesting is that the December eighteenth
video was taken on the same day that Schweikert and
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Lorenzo chatted on AOL about meeting up in Tampa for
the second time, and less than forty eight hours before
the two abducted Jason galehouse. The files don't make it
clear what these videos are of or what types of
videos they are. After the videos were hard copy photos
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seized from Lorenzo's residence. Two photos labeled Derek, six photos
labeled Paul Man Boy fl eight photos labeled Rich, seven
photos labeled ed and those may become very important in
just a minute. But moving along, eight photos labeled Rob,
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thirty photos labeled Chuck, and five photos labeled Mike. None
of these names come up in the files sent to
US nor at trial, and the photos labeled Mike don't
appear to be photos of Michael Walkle's, as there were
photos found of him dead and alive mentioned later in
the exhibits. And last and most damning were photos discovered
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on Lorenzo's Olympus digital camera. One photo dated July twenty six,
two thousand two and time stamped at nine forty six
a M. Twenty five photos dated July twenty seventh, two
thousand three, forty one photos dated October third, two thousand three,
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sixty three photos dated October twenty third, two thousand three,
thirty seven photos dated October thirtieth, two thousand three, nineteen
photos dated November ninth, two thousand three, one hundred sixty
eight unlabeled photos, twenty three photos labeled Danny Boy, fourteen
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photos labeled James, four photos labeled Davis Island sub Boy,
twenty seven photos labeled Bobby, twenty eight photos labeled either Atlanta,
Tim or Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Ten.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
We'll get into that in a second, and an unspecified
number of photos labeled Carl. Now, some of those names
will become incredibly important, but first let's take a look
at those dates. For July twenty sixth of two thousand
and two. There's no available data nor any reported cases
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that appear to coincide with the state. The July twenty seventh,
two thousand and three photos could pertain to a man
we'll call JP. The following is a detailed account of
a violent sexual assault. Listen with care or skip exactly
one minute and twenty five seconds. Who reported that sometime
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in July of two thousand and three, he met Stephen
Lorenzo for the first time at the twenty six oh
six club, where Lorenzo met both Jason Galehouse and Michael
Wockolts just five months later. J P reported that they
had no prior relationship. They'd never seen each other, met
each other, or talked online. They talked for a while
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at the bar and then decided to head to Stevens
after last call. JP followed Lorenzo back to his place
on Powaton Avenue in his own car. When he arrived,
Lorenzo gave him three glasses of wine and as he
drank them, he became more and more nauseous and eventually
began vomiting. Lorenzo told him to go lay down and
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then gave him a gatorade to sip from. JP said
the drink was definitely not gatorade, it was salty. Detectives
would eventually find empty bottles of gatorade with trace amounts
of g h B inside them at Lorenzo's Powaton house.
J P threw up again, and while he was on
his knees, felt what he'd later learn was a zip
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tie being tightened around his neck. Then he passed out.
When he awoke some time later, he'd been sodomized by
a large butt plug, which was still in sight of him.
He was bleeding from his rectum, and his body was
covered in significant bruising. For reasons unclear, Lorenzo let him go,
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and j P got dressed and fled the scene. The
October third, two thousand, three foot Edward was thirty four
years old when he disappeared. He stood approximately five foot
eight and weighed approximately one hundred seventy pounds. Edward had
traveled from Grafton, Massachusetts, to Flagler Beach to visit a friend,
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and according to Nemus, that friend last saw Edward on
October seventeenth, at around eight a m. On the twenty first,
the friend called the Flagler Beach Police Department to report
Edward missing. Flagler County Sheriff's off his deputies worked with
the police to conduct an investigation, which revealed that on
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October seventeenth, the day Edward was last seen, Edward was
transported to Florida Hospital Flagler in Palm Coast, Florida. He
apparently left the hospital on foot and of his own
free will, walking in an unknown direction. It's unclear when
exactly Edward left nor why he was admitted to the
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hospital in the first place, but the hospital was located
just one hour from Scott Schwikert's home in Orlando, and
so we have to ask could Edward Bruyette be the
ed whom police found seven photos of in Lorenzo's house
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For the October thirtieth, two thousand and three photos. There's
no available data nor any reported cases that appear to
coincide with them. And November ninth, two thousand and three,
that's around the time that Lorenzo and Schweikert alleged to
have met in per for the first time. It's also
four days after the final documented chat Lorenzo has with
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someone using the screen name uncut GV boy. Unfortunately, we've
yet to find any known digital data on the screen
name uncut GV boy. However, the photos labeled with names
led us to some pretty interesting places. There were in
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excess of one hundred photos labeled with seven different names
discovered on Lorenzo's Olympus digital camera, and it's important to
note that, as we continue to go through these photos
and videos, that many of Lorenzo's and Schweikert's victims survived.
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They either got free or were let go, so many
of these could have been taken of those such survivors.
Twenty three photos were labeled Danny Boy, which we haven't
been able to link to any potential or known victims yet.
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Four photos were labeled Davis Island sub Boy, and they
can't directly be linked to any potential victims either. However,
Davis Islands is a chain of islands just south of
downtown Tampa. Fourteen photos labeled James immediately brought to mind
James Shoemaker, who I reported on last season. James Shoemaker
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was last seen on October twenty first, nineteen ninety five,
at the Parthenon Nightclub in Tampa, a club that Stephen
Lorenzo was known to hang out at. James was thirty
at the time, weighed approximately one hundred thirty five pounds,
and stood about five foot nine. He'd been dropped off
alone that night and didn't have a car with him. However,
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as best we can tell, Shoemaker has been on Tampa
Peade's radar as a potential Lorenzo victim, so they'd likely
or at least hopefully, be able to use the fourteen
photos of James found on Lorenzo's camera to compare to
photos of James Shoemaker. Additionally, while it's unclear what year
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Lorenzo's camera was produced, Olympus digital cameras weren't widely available,
particularly in the Americas, until two thousand and one. In
a Tampa Tribune article from November seventh of two thousand
and five titled three other deaths Suspected, Tampa police detective
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Charles Masucci reportedly stated that the men who appeared in
the other three groups of photos labeled with names all
appeared to be dead. In some of or most of
those photos. An unspecified number of those photos were labeled
Carl KA r L, which we haven't been able to
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link to any potential or known victims yet. Twenty eight
of those photos were labeled either Atlanta TIM or Atlanta ten.
Atlanta Tim is what is most consistent in the exhibit logs.
I've only really seen Atlanta ten appear in several media outlets,
which could be chalked up to mishearing statements in court.
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But this was something that piqued our interest based on
both Lorenzo's interest and then the Tampa Pedes interest in
missing men in Georgia. But we'll explore all that in
a future episode. Twenty seven photos were labeled Bobby, which
is a name that has come up in our research.
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Robert Lewis Grossman, who reportedly went by Bobby, disappeared on
October third of nineteen ninety seven. The eighteen year old
left his family home on a firmed lane in Boca Raton, Florida,
following an argument with his mother at around nine thirty pm.
Bobby was wearing blue shorts and is not believed to
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have had shoes or a shirt on. According to reports,
Bobby and his mother who worked together at the Saint
Andrew's School summer camp, were arguing because his mom wanted
him to go to bed early because he had to
work the following day, and Bobby didn't want to go.
Three months after Bobby disappeared, his girlfriend reported that she
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received a phone call from an anonymous caller who claimed
that Bobby had been murdered and that his body had
been dumped in a canal near Southwest eighteenth Street in
Boca Ratone. Police immediately searched the canal and its surrounding
areas with no success. They were never able to determine
the veracity of the call, according to the Charley Project.
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Authorities stated that Grossman had no problems at home and
wasn't involved with any gangs or trouble. He was a
senior at Spanish River High School, had a part time
job as a camp counselor, and planned to go to college.
It's uncharacteristic of him to have left without warning or
to be out of touch with his loved ones. Bobby
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was last seen walking the streets of Boca Ratone, shirtless
and shoeless, less than seventeen miles from an apartment that
Stephen Lorenzo rented across the street from the Drake Towers
apartment complex in Fort Lauderdale, and that apartment complex is
where three gay men would disappear between nineteen eighty eight
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and two thousand and four. But as with James Schumaker,
it's hard to imagine Bobby Grossman's nineteen ninety seven disappearance
coinciding with images found on that Olympus digital camera. There
was some compelling additional evidence seized from Lorenzo's and submitted
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by the state. The much discussed file folder marked Missing
Guy's Articles containing newspaper clippings on Wacoltz and Galehouse and
other dead or missing men, and a file folder marked
Drownings and Disappearances two thousand and one through two thousand
and three, containing numerous photos and printouts downloaded from canine
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bytes dot com with handwritten notes on them. These are
especially interesting when you consider that Lorenzo told at least
one surviving victim that he could kill him and hide
his car in a canal, and then that a friend
of Schweikertz reported that shortly after moving to Orlando, Scott
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told him that he crashed his car into a canal
and this is how our deep dive investigation began, a
comparison of new leads and old evidence missing person cases
that coincided with each and sometimes both, and our determination
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to broaden our scope beyond Florida. Of course, things would
get complicated. There were other serial killers in some of
the same places, with similar victimologies to contend with. There
was frustration in stone Walling with and from various local
law enforcement agencies. There were jurisdictional nightmares. And then, of course,
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there were the two assholes at the center of all
of this. Two prolific rapists and killers who abducted and
tortured men before turning on each other. Two liars who
wanted to paint the other as the dom in their
fucked up relationship. Two men who were learning from one another,
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teaching one another, and egging each other on. Two men
who were probably planning on abducting, torturing, and killing each other.
Two gay men hunting gay men and the communities they
were supposed to feel safest in in a time when
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few gay men felt safe with anyone anywhere at all.
Because it wasn't just serial killers trying to rid the
world of homosexuality.
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I guess like what I would ask is, what would
you hope from the rest of this investigation or podcast.
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That if there is potentially that they feel like he's
connected to more, that they would choose their resources, all
their resources, and investigate this case thoroughly before they put him,
before he is on death gets under before he gets executed,
and that information dies with him.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
In December of twenty twenty two, nineteen years after Jason
Galehaus and Michael Wacholds disappeared, Stephen Lorenzo was finally found
guilty of their murders. This was six years after Scott
Schweikert took a plete deal and was sentenced to life
in prison for his involvement in their abductions, torture, and
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eventual deaths, and on February twenty fourth of twenty twenty three,
almost twenty years after their murders, Stephen Lorenzo was sentenced
to death. In the two years since the Studio Both
and team has researched and then continued to research the
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lives and crimes of Stephen Lorenzo and Scott Schweikert and how, where, when,
and with whom their lives and crimes may have intersected.
Because one thing has been made abundantly clear through our
research and our initial reporting on this case, with additional
allegations and individual histories of violence against men going as
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far back as at least nineteen eighty eight, the crimes
that these two men are sitting in prison for were
just the tip of the iceberg, because beyond those additional allegations,
there were threats of violence against men that they encountered
online and in gay bars, men they allegedly drugged and
took home, and there were rather convictions assault, battery, drug trafficking,
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false imprisonment. The most notable to our team was that
Lorenzo and or Schweikert had lived in at least three
different places at the exact times where gay men were
disappearing at a significant rate in those areas Central Florida, Georgia,
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and in the upper Midwest along the I eighty corridor. So,
with some urging from Albert Perkins, a surviving victim of
Stephen Lorenzo, we decided to continue our investigation and reporting.
We decided to look into other potential crimes committed by
Lorenzo or Schweikert, or both of them together. I hired
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a private investigator. We met with local law enforcement. We
traveled to Tampa. We filed a dozen or so more
for youer requests. We built a robust timeline. We combed
through the Tampa Pedee and federal court files. We examined
both exhibit and search in seizure lists. We chronicled every
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single screen name and user name that we could find.
We performed digital data mining, and we built a search tool.
Parameters we could use to begin searching for potential victims
in missing persons, unidentified persons, and unsolved murder's databases. So
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let's begin with those parameters. We determined that there were
three different victim types, one younger gay men who frequented
gay bars, clubs, and party scenes. This is the victimology
of both Wachholtz and Gaelhouse and seem to be the
preferred methodology of Lorenzo and Schweikert for targeting men in
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the Tampa area. Two area men who lived on the periphery,
men who struggled with drug addiction, who lived on the streets,
who needed money, Vulnerable male populations who would be easy
to manipulate or control with the promise of drugs or money.
Men who also could easily disappear, as noted by both
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Lorenzo and Schweikert in some of their AOL chats and
three closeted questioning men. One of the strongest witnesses in
the case against Stephen Lorenzo was Witness A, who you
may recall, was a man who identified as straight, lived
his life as a straight man, but encountered Lorenzo and
Schweikert online in a gay chat for him, and was
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lured to Lorenzo's house with the promise of sex. The
two men would drug witness A, assault him for hours,
rape him, and eventually let him go with the threat
of murder. Witness Ay was a father married to a
woman who was in Tampa on a business trip. No
one in his life knew he was gay, or at
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least questioning, which made it unlikely that he would report
his assault and harder to connect any disappearance to the
gay community had Lorenzo and Schweikert actually murdered him. Lorenzo
had discussed in his AOL chats with Schweikert that this
was one of his ideal fantasies, drugging, assaulting, and perhaps
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even killing white collar straight men. We started our searches
in Florida, where we believe both men were active during
the time frame. We know one or both men were
in the state nineteen eighty eight through two thousand and
four when Lorenzo was arrested. We don't know the exact
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date or even year that Lorenzo moved from the Northeast.
We have him living on Long Island in and around Albany,
New York, and near Philadelphia between his birth in nineteen
fifty nine and somewhere around nineteen eighty eight. We were
able to find Florida driver's licenses issued to Lorenzo going
as far back as nineteen ninety five. However, there are
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two interviews with Florida area men who claim to have
met Lorenzo in Florida in nineteen eighty nine, men who
became and maintained friendships with Lorenzo, so our best guess
is that he moved to the area at some point
between eighty eight and eighty nine. From our searches, we
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excluded the following babies and children, teenagers aged thirteen to sixteen,
men over forty years old, anyone believed to have disappeared
while on a boat, any case where there was a
strong or undeniable suspect, and women or any one female presenting.
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In our searches, we did include the following criteria l
G B t Q plus and straight men between the
ages of seventeen and forty years old. This would include
any one presenting as male. That search alone resulted in
twenty five missing or murdered men who could be potential
victims of Stephen Lorenzo and or Scott Schweikert. And that
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was just in Florida alone, But there were still strong
reasons to believe that the men could have been active
in many other states, but specifically Georgia, South Carolina, Illinois,
New York, and Pennsylvania. And there were very good reasons
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to believe that the two men could have drugged, raped, assaulted,
or killed at least twice that number. During a June second,
two thousand four search of Lorenzo's house, Tampa, Peedee discovered
polaroids and homemade videos of more than twenty men in
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various stages of bondage, including men who appeared to be
unconscious and in some instances deceased. They also found an
envelope labeled missing Guy Articles, which contained newspaper articles relating
to the disappearances of Jason Galehouse, Michael Wachole's and Dad,
and other unnamed missing or dead men. Additionally, they found
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that Lorenzo had been keeping track of a slew of
missing men cases out of Georgia, which was something that
came up at least three different times in the police interviews. First,
in an interview with Lorenzo's friend and neighbor, he told
police that Lorenzo had talked about the disappearances of the
two gay Tampa guys, referring to Gaelhouse and Wokles, and
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said that he believed that they were likely targets of
a serial killer who was also abducting men in Georgia.
A second time, when the police interviewed a former cellmate
of Scott Schweikert's. They asked if Scott spent any time
in Georgia, and the cellmate told police that Schweikert once
lived in South Carolina and often visited Georgia. And the
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third time is when a friend of Lorenzo's said that
Lorenzo couldn't help him with a home renovation project in
mid December of two thousand and three because he was
going to Georgia for the weekend. And this week in
getaway could be connected to chat records between Lorenzo and
Schweykurt where they repeatedly discussed targeting a hustler out of Georgia.
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Through a background check and additional arrest records, we were
able to determine that Scott did, in fact live in
Lads in, South Carolina, a suburb of Charleston, about one
hundred miles from the South Carolina and Georgia state line,
and we can place Scott there as early as December
of nineteen ninety nine and as late as August first
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of two thousand one. However, background checks also placed Schweikert
living in Athens, Georgia at some point in nineteen ninety
nine and again at a similar address in two thousand.
It's possible he bounced around between the two towns, which
are only about four hours apart, but there were other
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ways to search for victims. Through the case files, we
had a list of thirty six screen names who engaged
in sexual chat with Lorenzo on AOL, and while AOL
is now generally reserved for baby boomers, it was the
epicenter of online gay culture in the late nineties and
early oughts, and equally important, its data has been breached many, many,
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many times, meaning if you know how to navigate data
leaks like I do, you can start using data breach
databases to search for those thirty six screen names and
then use other data mining techniques to see where else
they've been used online and where else they've potentially been
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breached online. But some of the most critical information to
help us identify victims were the dates we got from
the files, specifically photos and videos taken from Lorenzo's comput
uter digital camera and camquarder that had date stamps and
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in some cases names. Photos and videos of men tied up,
sometimes unconscious, always naked, and in some cases very likely deceased,
so we could run NamUs and Charlie project searches using
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our parameters, and then run that against our data mining
the dates and names found on Lorenzo's digital media and
our timeline defined at the very least patterns but very
likely other victims. I began by making lists of exhibits
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submitted by the state to be used at Lorenzo's trial,
where those exhibits were found, what they contained, and any
notes that seemed relevant to our investigation. It seemed like
the most practical way to use actual evidence to search
for potential victims or connections, and what felt like an
(13:15):
otherwise never ending rabbit hole. First were photos that had
been downloaded to Lorenzo's computer. The files don't mention download
dates nor their origins, but it was clear that some
of those photos were taken by Lorenzo and Schweikert themselves.
They included one photo labeled constr nman at aol dot com,
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one of Stephen Lorenzo's multiple AOL usernames. One photo was
labeled top Dominator, another AOL username that we haven't been
able to identify yet. Two photos were of a man
tied to Lorenzo's bed, two photos were of a young
boy and a third was of that boy's feet, and
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then there were multiple downloaded photos of men tied up, chained, caged, bagged,
wrapped in plastic, and or being injected. It's unclear whether
these were photos Lorenzo found online or photos that he
took himself. However, there were no notations of these photos
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appearing to be taken in Lorenzo's home or any known locations.
Next up were videos seized from Lorenzo's residence, one video
dated December eighteenth, two thousand three, and another dated January fourth,
two thousand four. What's interesting is that the December eighteenth
video was taken on the same day that Schweikert and
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Lorenzo chatted on AOL about meeting up in Tampa for
the second time, and less than forty eight hours before
the two abducted Jason galehouse. The files don't make it
clear what these videos are of or what types of
videos they are. After the videos were hard copy photos
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seized from Lorenzo's residence. Two photos labeled Derek, six photos
labeled Paul Man Boy fl eight photos labeled Rich, seven
photos labeled ed and those may become very important in
just a minute. But moving along, eight photos labeled Rob,
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thirty photos labeled Chuck, and five photos labeled Mike. None
of these names come up in the files sent to
US nor at trial, and the photos labeled Mike don't
appear to be photos of Michael Walkle's, as there were
photos found of him dead and alive mentioned later in
the exhibits. And last and most damning were photos discovered
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on Lorenzo's Olympus digital camera. One photo dated July twenty six,
two thousand two and time stamped at nine forty six
a M. Twenty five photos dated July twenty seventh, two
thousand three, forty one photos dated October third, two thousand three,
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sixty three photos dated October twenty third, two thousand three,
thirty seven photos dated October thirtieth, two thousand three, nineteen
photos dated November ninth, two thousand three, one hundred sixty
eight unlabeled photos, twenty three photos labeled Danny Boy, fourteen
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photos labeled James, four photos labeled Davis Island sub Boy,
twenty seven photos labeled Bobby, twenty eight photos labeled either Atlanta,
Tim or Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Ten.
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We'll get into that in a second, and an unspecified
number of photos labeled Carl. Now, some of those names
will become incredibly important, but first let's take a look
at those dates. For July twenty sixth of two thousand
and two. There's no available data nor any reported cases
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that appear to coincide with the state. The July twenty seventh,
two thousand and three photos could pertain to a man
we'll call JP. The following is a detailed account of
a violent sexual assault. Listen with care or skip exactly
one minute and twenty five seconds. Who reported that sometime
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in July of two thousand and three, he met Stephen
Lorenzo for the first time at the twenty six oh
six club, where Lorenzo met both Jason Galehouse and Michael
Wockolts just five months later. J P reported that they
had no prior relationship. They'd never seen each other, met
each other, or talked online. They talked for a while
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at the bar and then decided to head to Stevens
after last call. JP followed Lorenzo back to his place
on Powaton Avenue in his own car. When he arrived,
Lorenzo gave him three glasses of wine and as he
drank them, he became more and more nauseous and eventually
began vomiting. Lorenzo told him to go lay down and
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then gave him a gatorade to sip from. JP said
the drink was definitely not gatorade, it was salty. Detectives
would eventually find empty bottles of gatorade with trace amounts
of g h B inside them at Lorenzo's Powaton house.
J P threw up again, and while he was on
his knees, felt what he'd later learn was a zip
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tie being tightened around his neck. Then he passed out.
When he awoke some time later, he'd been sodomized by
a large butt plug, which was still in sight of him.
He was bleeding from his rectum, and his body was
covered in significant bruising. For reasons unclear, Lorenzo let him go,
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and j P got dressed and fled the scene. The
October third, two thousand, three foot Edward was thirty four
years old when he disappeared. He stood approximately five foot
eight and weighed approximately one hundred seventy pounds. Edward had
traveled from Grafton, Massachusetts, to Flagler Beach to visit a friend,
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and according to Nemus, that friend last saw Edward on
October seventeenth, at around eight a m. On the twenty first,
the friend called the Flagler Beach Police Department to report
Edward missing. Flagler County Sheriff's off his deputies worked with
the police to conduct an investigation, which revealed that on
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October seventeenth, the day Edward was last seen, Edward was
transported to Florida Hospital Flagler in Palm Coast, Florida. He
apparently left the hospital on foot and of his own
free will, walking in an unknown direction. It's unclear when
exactly Edward left nor why he was admitted to the
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hospital in the first place, but the hospital was located
just one hour from Scott Schwikert's home in Orlando, and
so we have to ask could Edward Bruyette be the
ed whom police found seven photos of in Lorenzo's house
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For the October thirtieth, two thousand and three photos. There's
no available data nor any reported cases that appear to
coincide with them. And November ninth, two thousand and three,
that's around the time that Lorenzo and Schweikert alleged to
have met in per for the first time. It's also
four days after the final documented chat Lorenzo has with
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someone using the screen name uncut GV boy. Unfortunately, we've
yet to find any known digital data on the screen
name uncut GV boy. However, the photos labeled with names
led us to some pretty interesting places. There were in
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excess of one hundred photos labeled with seven different names
discovered on Lorenzo's Olympus digital camera, and it's important to
note that, as we continue to go through these photos
and videos, that many of Lorenzo's and Schweikert's victims survived.
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They either got free or were let go, so many
of these could have been taken of those such survivors.
Twenty three photos were labeled Danny Boy, which we haven't
been able to link to any potential or known victims yet.
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Four photos were labeled Davis Island sub Boy, and they
can't directly be linked to any potential victims either. However,
Davis Islands is a chain of islands just south of
downtown Tampa. Fourteen photos labeled James immediately brought to mind
James Shoemaker, who I reported on last season. James Shoemaker
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was last seen on October twenty first, nineteen ninety five,
at the Parthenon Nightclub in Tampa, a club that Stephen
Lorenzo was known to hang out at. James was thirty
at the time, weighed approximately one hundred thirty five pounds,
and stood about five foot nine. He'd been dropped off
alone that night and didn't have a car with him. However,
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as best we can tell, Shoemaker has been on Tampa
Peade's radar as a potential Lorenzo victim, so they'd likely
or at least hopefully, be able to use the fourteen
photos of James found on Lorenzo's camera to compare to
photos of James Shoemaker. Additionally, while it's unclear what year
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Lorenzo's camera was produced, Olympus digital cameras weren't widely available,
particularly in the Americas, until two thousand and one. In
a Tampa Tribune article from November seventh of two thousand
and five titled three other deaths Suspected, Tampa police detective
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Charles Masucci reportedly stated that the men who appeared in
the other three groups of photos labeled with names all
appeared to be dead. In some of or most of
those photos. An unspecified number of those photos were labeled
Carl KA r L, which we haven't been able to
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link to any potential or known victims yet. Twenty eight
of those photos were labeled either Atlanta TIM or Atlanta ten.
Atlanta Tim is what is most consistent in the exhibit logs.
I've only really seen Atlanta ten appear in several media outlets,
which could be chalked up to mishearing statements in court.
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But this was something that piqued our interest based on
both Lorenzo's interest and then the Tampa Pedes interest in
missing men in Georgia. But we'll explore all that in
a future episode. Twenty seven photos were labeled Bobby, which
is a name that has come up in our research.
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Robert Lewis Grossman, who reportedly went by Bobby, disappeared on
October third of nineteen ninety seven. The eighteen year old
left his family home on a firmed lane in Boca Raton, Florida,
following an argument with his mother at around nine thirty pm.
Bobby was wearing blue shorts and is not believed to
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have had shoes or a shirt on. According to reports,
Bobby and his mother who worked together at the Saint
Andrew's School summer camp, were arguing because his mom wanted
him to go to bed early because he had to
work the following day, and Bobby didn't want to go.
Three months after Bobby disappeared, his girlfriend reported that she
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received a phone call from an anonymous caller who claimed
that Bobby had been murdered and that his body had
been dumped in a canal near Southwest eighteenth Street in
Boca Ratone. Police immediately searched the canal and its surrounding
areas with no success. They were never able to determine
the veracity of the call, according to the Charley Project.
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Authorities stated that Grossman had no problems at home and
wasn't involved with any gangs or trouble. He was a
senior at Spanish River High School, had a part time
job as a camp counselor, and planned to go to college.
It's uncharacteristic of him to have left without warning or
to be out of touch with his loved ones. Bobby
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was last seen walking the streets of Boca Ratone, shirtless
and shoeless, less than seventeen miles from an apartment that
Stephen Lorenzo rented across the street from the Drake Towers
apartment complex in Fort Lauderdale, and that apartment complex is
where three gay men would disappear between nineteen eighty eight
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and two thousand and four. But as with James Schumaker,
it's hard to imagine Bobby Grossman's nineteen ninety seven disappearance
coinciding with images found on that Olympus digital camera. There
was some compelling additional evidence seized from Lorenzo's and submitted
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by the state. The much discussed file folder marked Missing
Guy's Articles containing newspaper clippings on Wacoltz and Galehouse and
other dead or missing men, and a file folder marked
Drownings and Disappearances two thousand and one through two thousand
and three, containing numerous photos and printouts downloaded from canine
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bytes dot com with handwritten notes on them. These are
especially interesting when you consider that Lorenzo told at least
one surviving victim that he could kill him and hide
his car in a canal, and then that a friend
of Schweikertz reported that shortly after moving to Orlando, Scott
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told him that he crashed his car into a canal
and this is how our deep dive investigation began, a
comparison of new leads and old evidence missing person cases
that coincided with each and sometimes both, and our determination
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to broaden our scope beyond Florida. Of course, things would
get complicated. There were other serial killers in some of
the same places, with similar victimologies to contend with. There
was frustration in stone Walling with and from various local
law enforcement agencies. There were jurisdictional nightmares. And then, of course,
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there were the two assholes at the center of all
of this. Two prolific rapists and killers who abducted and
tortured men before turning on each other. Two liars who
wanted to paint the other as the dom in their
fucked up relationship. Two men who were learning from one another,
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teaching one another, and egging each other on. Two men
who were probably planning on abducting, torturing, and killing each other.
Two gay men hunting gay men and the communities they
were supposed to feel safest in in a time when
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few gay men felt safe with anyone anywhere at all.
Because it wasn't just serial killers trying to rid the
world of homosexuality.
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