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February 6, 2023 60 mins
On this week's #weeklybriefing @chanelrion speaks with Garrett Ziegler, a Trump White House aide regarding Hunter Biden's laptop. Hunter’s lawyer fire warning shots at people involved in exposing his laptop. What is Hunter’s endgame? Our panel of experts analyze a new popular artificial intelligence software displaying serious bias towards Democrats. Is this the future? Join Chanel Rion for Weekly Briefing on One America News by downloading OAN Live from your favorite device.
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome to weekly Briefing. I'm shanel Vian.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
When the Clinton White House needed to defend slick Willie's
wandering Willie, who'd.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
They call Abby Lowell?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
When Jack Abramoff, big time lobbyist gets caught ripping off
casino Indian chiefs, who does he call Abby Lowell? And
when Chinese influence agents get caught laundering money to the
DNC and the Clintons or meddling with.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
US policy, who do they call Abby Lowell?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
So naturally, this is the guy Hunter Biden hires to
represent him, and.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Boy is he doing his job.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Mister Lowell is the man behind a new strategy designed
to save the Biden family. This week, Hunter Biden is
demanding state and federal prosecutors like the Delaware Attorney General
and the DOJ to launch investigations into his enemies, Rudy
Giuliani's Steve Bannon, and anyone who brought attention to the
contents on Hunter Biden's laptop, the one dropped off at

(01:15):
a computer repair shop in Delaware. An unnamed source close
to Hunter told the Washington Post Hunter quote is not
going to sit idly by as questionable characters continue to
violate his rights, and media organizations peddling and lies try
to defame him.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
What does that even mean?

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Questionable characters you mean as opposed to Hunter Biden the
guy who smokes crack while driving, who lies to pretend
he's his dead brother to evade police and lies on
gun forms, who pedals his dad's title in exchange for
big money deals. Hunter the guy who sleeps with his
dead brother's wife and creates homemade porn, sometimes without the

(01:59):
consent of prostitutes. Hunter the guy who forms dozens of
shell corporations to process millions of dollars from Chinese and
Ukrainian oligarchs, then complains about having to pay Joe's bills.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
They're saying, Hunter, that guy isn't the questionable character. No No.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
In Looney Tune Biden World, the shady character in this
scenario is America's mayor, Rudy Giuliani, the US attorney who
took down the mafia, or to them, the suspicious character
is the naval lieutenant who managed to not get himself
kicked out of the Navy for cocaine use and went

(02:41):
on to Harvard Business School on his own merit. Steve Bannon, Right,
those are the questionable ones. Then Hunter's defenders have the
audacity to say that just because Hunter's own questionable behavior
was exposed, his rights have been violated, and it's all

(03:01):
just a plot to defame a poor, innocent son of
a president. No one's buying this, So what gives Mister
Lowell is a smart guy. You don't become a renowned
white collar trial lawyer in.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Washington, d C. Because you are lucky.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
He's represented across the political spectrum, even Jared Kushner. Mister
Lowell is a liberal at heart, but an opportunist in spirit.
And remember this about good trial lawyers. They're always waging
a two part battle. Their battle is in the courtroom
as much as it is in the realm of popular opinion.

(03:41):
So this is a pr stunt to save the Bidens,
the result of which would destroy free press if they
had their way. Nonetheless, this new strategy threatening those who
expose Biden corruption is the handiwork of a cunning trial
lawyer attempting to hold a trial by headline. Mister Lowell

(04:02):
knows full well going into court he faces a tough case.
From a simple case history point of view, Biden's defense
runs against the famous Pentagon Papers case, which will make
it next to impossible for Hunter Biden to win anything
in a court of law, because remember in nineteen seventy one,
when The New York Times published classified government documents and

(04:24):
the government sued, the Supreme Court ruled on the side
of free press. Specifically, the Supreme Court found that the
First Amendment right of free press overruled any prior restraint
by the government. So long as the Times didn't steal
these documents themselves, they could publish them for the public

(04:45):
to know. In the Hunter Biden laptop case, Hunter is
no government official and Rudy Giuliani didn't break into Biden's
Wilmington home and nab Hunter's laptop. Steve Bannon didn't send
war Room just to cat burglar their way into pen
Biden's center. Miranda Devine didn't contract out Crocodile Dundee to

(05:07):
lasso it out of Hunter's hand, and Oan didn't send
an army of hackers to break into Hunter's laptop. Hunter Biden,
drunk high and who knows what else, dropped off his
laptop at a computer repair shop and then apparently forgot
about it. It was officially abandoned by him. And consider this.

(05:29):
Even if the mac isaac repair shop story is suspect,
you know what isn't the fact that Hunter Biden has
littered the globe with his phones and laptops, whether they
were stolen by Russians at a party or hacked into
by the Chinese Communist party. The repair shop is beyond
the point. The contents on that laptop were in the

(05:50):
hands of our enemies, and the contents were exposed. So
the obvious next question is doesn't this show that Biden's
attorneys are comitting the emails found.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
On the laptop are authentic.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
When his team realized this is what it looked like,
mister Lowell gave a clarifying statement that these letters quote
do not confirm mac Isaac's or other's versions of a
so called laptop.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Well, he's supposed to say that, but he's fooling no one.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
These threatening letters from Hunter's team confirm a lot. It
confirms not only the contents of the Biden laptop is
being real, but confirms too the Bidens are desperate. This
tactic is about to open up a lot more than
they wanted. But it's a calculated risk. Central to mister
Lowell's defense plan for Hunters that disseminating Hunter's laptop contents

(06:46):
is a violation of Hunter's privacy, But how can it
be violating Hunter's privacy if they were false to begin with?
If they were false, mister Lowell would be bringing a
good old fashioned death information suit, not a violation of
privacy suit.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
It's not fake, so it's not defamation and he knows it.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
What this latest round of threats from Biden's White color
attorney means is that, finally, after three years, Hunter Biden
is admitting that the laptop is real. And you know
why Hunter's team isn't pushing the defamation case route.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
It's so obvious.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
They not only know the contents of that laptop are real,
they know that if Hunter brings a defamation suit, that
opens him up to depositions and discovery, meaning very smart
lawyers will be sitting across from him and grilling him
for hours on end. Depositions are tough when you're telling

(07:47):
the truth and you.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Know you've done nothing wrong.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Can you imagine what would happen to Hunter Biden under
the harsh light of a good discovery session. He'd lend
the whole family in jail, So mister Lowell has a
tough job ahead of him, but he's making just enough
of the loud moves to try and distract the public
from the issue at hand. Hunter Biden made millions for

(08:10):
the Biden family and likely violated the Foreign Agent Registration Act.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Hunter Biden is being investigated for.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Not paying his taxes and for relying on federal forms.
Hunter Biden has laundered millions of dollars across the globe.
Hunter Biden has essentially been the CCP's MVP. These are
the details mister Lowell is trying to distract you from.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
That's why the Biden's rang him up.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Now that Hunter Biden has confirmed his laptop is real,
why isn't the FBI arresting him on fair violations or
cuffing him for money laundering out of Latvia, Ukraine, Cyprus,
Russia and China. As I said at the start, mister
Lowell is no stranger to influence agent clients. He's a
criminal defense guy and he knows how to spin these

(09:00):
cases to minimize the crimes. But in the case of
the Biden family, for the sake of.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
The country, may he fail miserably.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
One of the letters, mister Lowell sent was to the
irs challenging the nonprofit status of Marco Polo, a group
run by my friend and former White House alum Garrett Ziegler.
Ziegler put the entire contents of the Hunter Biden laptop
online in a searchable database. He's over the target, and
the Bidens don't like it. His response to the Biden

(09:36):
team when we return.

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Speaker 2 (11:23):
If you rattle the elitist apparatus, be prepared to defend yourself.
That is exactly the predicament Garrett z Glary Trump White
House Aid finds himself in. It would be difficult to
find a person that knows and understands the full contents
of Hunter Biden's laptop more than Garrett. He runs a
nonprofit organization called Marco Polo, where he published a comprehensive

(11:47):
report analyzing and breaking down everything in that laptop from Hell.
And now Hunter's lawyers are targeting him, sending the IRS
a letter challenging the nonprofit status of his group, Marco Polo. Garrett,
welcome back. The response from you to this attorney is what.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
It's a desperate attempt from Hunter and his sugar brother
Kevin Morris to get the attention off Hunter and his
family's crimes. And it's telling that they're using the same
tactic that Obama and Lois Learner used in twenty twelve
to target conservative groups. Go right for the jugular. And

(12:32):
of course we haven't violated any laws. We engage in
no lobbying, we don't endorse candidates, and we don't endorse
particular legislation. So this is a hail Mary. And he's
expecting this Robert Malone figure at the IRS to just
be impressed with his letter head and his former client list.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Mister Lowell, the attorney for Hunter Biden, has provided thirty
six pages as quote evidence that your organization is engaging
in political activity in violation of its nonprofit status. Now,
from a press standpoint, that is a very quotable segment
that people in the media will then pick up and
start using using whenever they refer to this case and

(13:14):
referring to you.

Speaker 6 (13:15):
First of all, the post was on my personal page,
not a Marco Polo page. This is not North Korea.
I can have my personal, true social account say whatever
I want it because I'm separate from the organization. But
one of the posts, he screenshot it and included in
this faux exhibit page is I said, I'm speaking in

(13:36):
my personal capacity at a Macomb County, Michigan GOP event,
and so it undercuts their very argument. I just said
last night to The New York Post that Kevin Morris
should have gotten more for his fourteen hundred dollars an
hour attorney.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
The charge against you so far is that one of
the things they say that he says in the letter,
he says that donors expect donors to Marco Polo expect
their contributions will be used to fund attacks on the
Biden administration and the Biden family.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
What is your reply to that?

Speaker 6 (14:15):
I think that when Hunter is revealed, he plays the
victim card, that he's done this his entire life. Whenever
he got busted for coke in the Navy, he brings
up his mother's death, and so to him, exposing his
corruption feels like an attack. And so anything talking about
the Biden family's crimes is in their mind illegal and

(14:39):
nothing but an ad hominem attack. When if you read
our report, there are very few personal attacks. It's all
about the criminality, and so, in their warped mind, and
I truly believe this Hunter is still playing the victim
as a fifty two year old son of the president
United States, and he's asking his daddy's agents to go

(15:01):
after somebody that he feels is picking on him.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Do you have a legal defense strategy here or is
there just are you just going to let this write
out and see what the IRS does in response?

Speaker 6 (15:14):
Well, Marco Polo hasn't had a formal council arrangement yet
because we haven't had somebody like Hunter who is playing
the victim card. And so we're going to have to
get an attorney for Marco Polo. The one that I
had personally for the January sixth stuff is not He's
not a nonprofit attorney, and so we're going to get

(15:36):
a nonprofit attorney write a letter to this exact same guy,
and actually include more exhibits showing that I criticize people
of both parties number one and number two. I have
not advocated for any legislation or particular candidate. The steadiness

(15:58):
with which my gree has continued to talk about his
crimes has sort of weighed on him like Chinese water torture,
and so again, you know, we already have his other attorney,
Kevin Morris on a couple of federal felonies. He through
a devisive interstate commerce, threatened me in my group. He

(16:19):
said he was going to bankrupt me and my parents,
take all my money and send me to jail. And
so I think this is Kevin Morris's strategy to get
back at me in public.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Do you see him winning this war on the PR front? Ever?
Is there a scenario? Are we so corrupt that he
can win.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
At the PR level? No, because the vast majority of
the public gets it. But the only thing that we're
going to be guarding against is the corrupt nature historically
of the irs. And so that's what I'm focused on
right now. It's in coming upon me to mention that
Hunter's attorney, Abby Lowell, is the attorney for was the

(17:04):
attorney for Jared Kushner, and as we mentioned on the side,
he is a key legal mercenary for the uniparty. He
will he will work for anybody, and so I think
that that cements his position as a legal darling of
the swamp.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Considering how much you put out, I think when you
showed me that that binder, which is accessible to the public,
there's what twenty two thousand citations over twenty Yeah, over
twenty thousand citations.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
Yeah, two thousand citations, six hundred pages, all on our website,
Marcopolusa dot org. And you know, Hunter has no other
options right now. He's just gonna call me a meanie.
That's basically what this letter is. Garrett's being mean to me.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
IRS.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
Please take care of him.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Using the IRS as a weapon to take down one's
political enemies. That's a dangerous, dangerous road we've seen this country.

Speaker 6 (18:11):
We're trying to get congressional support. Hopefully you having me
on this program Chanel will hopefully marshall congressional support on
our behalf. And we'd like a couple of the people
who are supposedly overseeing the Biden administration in Congress to
write letters of support showing that we haven't violated the
terms of our five oh one seed three status.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
And hopefully to have some kind of oversight into the
IRS if they do take action against you and your organization. So,
Garrett Ziegler, the Marco Polo Group, thank you so much
for all that you're doing, all that you're exposing, and
sorry that you're the target of more of the swampcats
out here, but it does mean that you're over the target.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
As they say, thank you, Matt, I appreciate you having
me on and letting me talk about this.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
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Speaker 1 (21:00):
Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
President Biden's attorney announced that the FBI did not find
any classified documents during a Wednesday search of his Rehoboth,
Delaware beach home.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
This was the third search since November.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Second reports say the search was conducted without a warrant
and in coordination with Biden's attorneys joining to discuss this
and other topics, we turned to our panel of experts
and you kick us off here your response to this,
I guess nothing burger on Wednesday.

Speaker 7 (21:29):
Yeah, you know, there's a lot to say about this.
I think since January, when you know, folks, we first
started hearing about these documents with Biden and then with
Pence and with others. It's just been a slow drip,
and you know there was you know, some independent process
set up at DJ at the end of the day.
I've looked at this as you know, they're trying to
exonerate Biden. They're working hand in glove with his personal attorneys,

(21:53):
I think in many ways.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
And no, that's especially truth because this is now the
second search of their hope it is.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
The first search was.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Done at the trust of the Biden personal attorneys. The
Biden attorneys went in there first, and this seems to
be the DOJ saying we don't maybe trust the personal
attorneys and we're going to do our own.

Speaker 7 (22:12):
Well, I think I think it might be more for public.

Speaker 9 (22:15):
First of all, there may be manuals on this.

Speaker 7 (22:16):
They may be following some sort of process that is
typically set up in general investigation, so I don't necessarily
doubt that. But it's also I think there's an exonerating
aspect to the public. It's like, look, the public doesn't
trust Biden's attorney, so now DOJ is going to come
in and we didn't find anything, surprise, surprise. So you know,
I have a piece in tech this week who watches
the record keepers basically on this whole issue. In comparing

(22:38):
Trump and Biden. I'm not hugely shocked by any of this.
I think I was more shocked by the narrow the
Records Administration coming out and trying to exonerate all prior
presidents except for Trump. They did that last year. But
I'm not terribly worried about the Presidential Records Act. It's
not supposed to be something that's enforceable or sued over.
The classified documents issue is more were serious, and obviously

(23:02):
he's pretty sloppy. But at the end of the day,
I thought it was a nothing burger with Trump, and
I think it's really a nothing burger with Biden too.

Speaker 9 (23:07):
It's the hypocrisy.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
I alway keeps weighing this theory out, throwing this theory
out here. But isn't this just the DNC basically threatening
the Biden team behind the scenes, like, hey, keep threatening
to run for reelection, We'll keep finding documents.

Speaker 9 (23:21):
I mean, that's an open question, you know.

Speaker 10 (23:22):
I think the thing that I found most interesting about
this was Merrick Garland coming out and basically saying, you know, hey,
we treat everyone the same way, and I think the
American people recognize there are two standards of justice now,
and really they're starting to have to.

Speaker 9 (23:36):
They didn't treat them the same way.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
With Trump.

Speaker 7 (23:38):
His attorneys were working iteratively with the Records Administration and saying,
here's some stuff, here's some stuff, here's some stuff, and
all of a sudden, the hammer drops and they raid
bar a Lago.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
With the raided their own safe.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Remember they gave the Trump team a safe to put
all of this stuff in, and they break into their
own safe.

Speaker 9 (23:57):
So there are rules.

Speaker 7 (23:58):
I'm not you know, it's just it's just when you're
working with Trump and then all of a sudden, you
just surprise. Whereas with Biden. You know, we've had months
and months, We've had a year. We had the Record
Administration head resign, you know, over a year ago. I
would suspect that had something to do with all of this.
I think it's been kind of out there. Is the
deep state trying to take out Biden?

Speaker 3 (24:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (24:20):
Yeah, it's just a process.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's certainly murky, and I don't have a lot of
confidence we'll understand the full process anytime soon, especially with
the DOJ stonewalling any requests from the GP committees.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Let's go to the goop now.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Senators Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham, Mike Lee, and Tom Cotton
panda letter to the executives of AT and T DirecTV
and TPG Capital requesting more information about the censorship of both.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
One American News and Newsmax.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
The four senators specifically asked for the three companies to
submit documents providing more information by February fifteen about to
see serious action taken on Capitol Hill.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Noel, Well, this was a.

Speaker 11 (25:04):
Very powerful letter that the for senators wrote, and not
only did it contain a multitude of excellent questions that
I hope these companies will take the opportunity to answer,
but they also identified a very important issue. We can't
look at what's going on in corporate boardrooms right now
without finding lawmakers using their positions of authority to influence
tech companies to censor, to blackball, and to denigrate Christian media,

(25:26):
conservative media, and pro life messages. In twenty one and
twenty twenty two, we saw two very notable instances of
one two members of Congress writing a letter to twelve
different TV carriers urging them to kick conservative networks out
off their lineup and to justify, for justify their moral
reasoning if they didn't want to do that. Then in

(25:47):
twenty twenty two, we saw a group of lawmakers writing
to Google urging Google to guarantee that search results directing
users to crisis pregnancy centers could not appear in searches
for abortion clinics.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Wow, that is and we'd never I mean, I know
that this was a story and it came out, but
it really didn't get the attention that it probably deserved.
I mean, this is this leads to other things that
we'll talk about later in the show, where artificial intelligence
will be pulling information from the general information sphere like

(26:24):
Google and then drawing conclusions that give information to people.
This is the kind of bias that does trickle down.
This is not just a one off situation where boardrooms
disagree on content.

Speaker 11 (26:35):
Well, you're exactly right that it may not have gotten
the attention it needed from the mainstream media. Thankfully, it
did get the attention of a group of Republican attorneys
general who responded to members of Congress who were writing
to Google to point out the problem exactly with what
they were doing. But I don't think that these stories
have been promoted enough in the mainstream media, and we
understand why there's been so much grandstanding about misinformation. But

(26:56):
what the lawmakers themselves did in the last Congress looks
it's a lot like information.

Speaker 9 (27:01):
Interference and an assault on free speech.

Speaker 11 (27:03):
And we simply hope that this Congress has the same
appetite for accountability that the last Congress had for controlling
the flow of information.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Absolutely, one real quick point.

Speaker 7 (27:13):
I mean, another reason why it didn't get a lot
of play is our own side. We often are very
free market on the right. I just want there are
multiple jeridictional hooks here. I mean, the public airwaves fall
under you know, the communications the various communications laws, and
you know, corporations are publicly chartered. They go to the
government to get a document saying here's what you are.

(27:33):
They have to get licenses, all these sorts of things.
So I think one of the things on the new Right,
one of the things since Trump and over the past
few years, all this entanglement between tech and the government
and our media and the government, there's really not a
difference there. There's not a hard and fast difference. And
we have to put to bed the notion that we
should just let the market decide, because the market includes

(27:54):
the government.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
I think that's a beautiful point because it Yes, the
argument is it's very difficult for conservatives to jump in
here and say we need to start regulating this, because
that's anaphema everything that conservative politics stands for. They're about
not interfering in that regard. But yes, this is a
situation where you're looking at the board members of TPG,
for example, or looking at the board members of AT

(28:17):
and T and Direct TV, and you've got people who
were former DNC chairmen and very very tightly connected to
the Democrat Party, and the assumption is their politics somehow
are not being leaked into their decisions on a daily basis,
and that the cap the markets. Even if everyone stood

(28:37):
up and said we want Newsmax and on back on air,
will that actually have an effect on these very woke boardrooms.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Well, this is.

Speaker 11 (28:47):
Why I'm very eager to see legislators in this Congress
stop legislating by letterhead and engage in serious oversight and
inquiry within the scope of their constitutional with their old hearings.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yes, electricity cars, airplanes, the internet, these revolutions changed our world,
whether we wanted them or not.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Now, another revolution is underway.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Artificial intelligence software chat GPT has brought the dystopian future
we watch on TV right to your fingertips. Everyone can
access this stunning software. Naturally, people have made some interesting
observations since its debut. When asked to write a poem,
for example, describing President Donald Trump, the AI responds, quote,

(29:28):
I am not programmed to produce content that is partisan
biased or political in nature. However, when asked to do
the same with President Joe Biden, it waxes poetic, Oh
my goodness, John is AI biased.

Speaker 10 (29:44):
Well, you know the interesting thing about chat GPT is
a few weeks ago when it came out, we weren't
seeing this bias. Actually, we were seeing it do what
it was supposed to do. And of course left wing
activists freaked out, and it's the same thing we've seen
with social media companies. They immediately pressured chat GPT to
start censoring conservative ideas and so now you're seeing this,
So there was an effort.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
There was an effort too.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
That's interesting because when I look at the technology behind this,
I'm not a I'm not a huge tech person, but
my understanding is that this AI software is pulling from
the general WebSphere and kind of sifting and filtering information
through to give answers like that.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
So when there's not a lot.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Of material supporting Donald Trump, there's not going to be
a response from AI, or.

Speaker 10 (30:30):
They put a block on that material so it cannot
find that material, and it, you know, it has this
pre programmed response. But I'll tell you you know the
thing about AI. Everyone is freaked out about it. I'm
freaked out about it. I think AI can be really dangerous.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Has everyone at this table tried chat cheepiece? It is insane.
It is insane. I made it. I made them right.
I tried several poetry.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Prompts and it came up with some pretty good contempt.

Speaker 10 (30:53):
Actually, one of the good things about it is that
it's going to replace this kind of midway professional class
because they don't actually say anything of substance anyway, and
chat gp T can do the same thing. But the
one thing I just want to say is that I
think folks who are really worried about this AI hasn't
come as far as truly being artificial intelligence. Chat GPT
isn't thinking. I mean, it really is. It's fake and gay.

(31:16):
It's a glorified search engine.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
That's a wonderful point, and I think one of the
ways that we get around that is that you are
using these tools, but you have to understand this isn't
the end all be all. This isn't the Ten Commandments,
this is not the solid you know, the truth, arbiter right,
And so I think that will ultimately be a decision
that is made by individuals in future, and we have

(31:40):
to have faith that society will have sound judgment in
the end. When we return a Rhode Island school is
soliciting funds for the cartel.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Plus Finland has gone genter crazy. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 2 (34:11):
Leaked emails from a Rhode Island high school unveiled a
bombshell revelation These emails show an assistant principle at the
Mount Pleasant High School asked for donations from school staff
members to pay off a cartel coyote. This cartel member
actually brought one of its students to the US. Andrew,

(34:32):
this is a very unusual email for an assistant principle
to be sending it less.

Speaker 7 (34:37):
Yeah, I have no idea what's going on here.

Speaker 9 (34:41):
At all.

Speaker 7 (34:41):
I mean I haven't seen any video of this, of
what was going through this person's head.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
The goal was to raise five thousand dollars.

Speaker 7 (34:47):
Yeah, so I don't know how if this person is
utterly clueless, or if this is like wocism or like
we're being inclusive. We can't talk about you know, human
smuggling and human trafficking and human misery. We can't talk
about it as a bad thing. I honestly, I have
no idea. I think this is totally worth you know,
the school board or the state or anybody else looking into,

(35:08):
because you know, this is not protecting our children.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
I wonder what the process was.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
I mean, if you raise this much money then and
you give the money to the student, do they send
the assistant principle or someone to like walk with this
kid to hand the money over to the cartel.

Speaker 9 (35:23):
Or exactly a brown bag you just walk it over that.

Speaker 10 (35:25):
I mean, this is really incredible, and I do think
it looks like it's ignorance.

Speaker 9 (35:29):
You saw she.

Speaker 10 (35:30):
Put coyote in quotes, which obviously she heard from the kid.

Speaker 9 (35:34):
It's like, I don't know what that is. That sounds
like a great human rights Do.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
You think she really genuinely doesn't know a coyote is.

Speaker 10 (35:40):
I would hope so, because the alternative is even worse, Right,
then it's somebody who recognizes that these people are trafficking
these victims. In a lot of cases, it's not for
the good of the victims, right, there's sex trafficking, They're doing.

Speaker 9 (35:53):
All sorts of horrible things.

Speaker 10 (35:55):
I would hope that even a crazy, dumb liberal would
note that that's a horrible thing.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Five thousand dollars is what they needed.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
They raised about three thousand, and they were looking for
an additional two thousand. It's insane if it gets to
a point where our school administrators are having to deal
with cartels and coyotes on behalf of our students. I mean,
you still have people saying that Kamala Harris is doing
an excellent job as borders are.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
I don't know who those people.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Are, but they certainly aren't looking at stories like this.
The next topic is very interesting. Finished lawmakers have taken
a bold, courageous step making it easier for people to
change genders. The lawmakers past amendments that would permit transgender
individuals who are eighteen or older in Finland to legally

(36:43):
alter their genders by simple self declaration.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
The new amendment would eliminate.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
The necessity to supply a psychiatric assessment and the certificate
on their ability to reproduce john This is a very
interesting situation. For the most part, I think around the world,
if a child or an individual who wants to undergo drastic,
permanent bodily mutilation, they have to sign some kind of

(37:11):
statement saying that they're willing to do this, that there's
sound body, sound mind.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Your thoughts on this finished.

Speaker 10 (37:18):
Start, Look, this is the insanity of gender ideology. Ultimately,
it completely relays, replaces biological sex as a reality to
just however you're feeling in the moment. And that's obviously
a problem when it comes to law. The idea of
putting that into law is crazy. The good news out
of this, I think is that you know, Europe has
taken a step back from pushing this stuff on children,

(37:40):
and you're seeing that with the NHS in the UK
and elsewhere, and that's actually you know, having a ripple
effect over here in the United States. We just had
Utah pass they were the sixth state to pass, you know,
basically a ban on sex changes for kids. We also
had Donald Trump come out and Ron De Santis come
out aggressively saying this stuff is horrible, We're going to
ban it. So I think we're moving in the right

(38:01):
direction on this. You know, obviously, this has been kind
of a medical fad that's going to leave thousands of
people with devastated lives. It's going to frankly, you know,
they talk about suicide all the time. It's going to
cause a lot of these poor kids to kill themselves.
And I think we need to do something about it,
and that means we have to you know, act as government.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
So you're saying the pendulum is swinging.

Speaker 10 (38:21):
I sense that, I think, especially politically here in the
United States. You know, the Republican Party is always squishy
and always weak on these types of issues, but we're
seeing an improvement and again, I can't stress this enough.
Donald Trump came out with a four and a half
minute video.

Speaker 9 (38:33):
Basically saying we're going to do all this stuff. And
I'll tell you his.

Speaker 10 (38:37):
Agenda, like app was looking at it like, Okay, we
got to add this, we got to add this.

Speaker 9 (38:41):
Didn't think of that. That's really good, you know.

Speaker 10 (38:43):
I mean, he's really thinking about this issue. And I
think this is where we're going and hopefully the Republican
Party will prioritize it in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
That is the hope.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Certainly, thousands of children are being subjected to a medical
industry that is profiting off of this, So that's the
scary part. There's an entire pharmaceutical world that is fighting
against any kind of social pendulum swinging here that could happen,
and so that maybe they won't be strong enough to fight.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Back, and maybe the social.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Realization that this is just a primitive and abhorrent way
to allow our kids to grow is going to prevail.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
So hopefully it does.

Speaker 10 (39:24):
And notably President Trump specifically referenced big pharma and the
profits that they're making off these kids here in the
United States and said, we need to go after them.
We need to create a private right of action so
these kids can sue. I mean, that was really strong
stuff and hopefully a sign of things to come.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
I share your optimism.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
The Biden administration is thinking about declaring a public health
emergency over what they call the lack of.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Abortion access in a handful of States.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Secretary of Health and Human Services Javier Bacerra said, there
have been discussions about using an emergency declaration as a
means to protect abortion.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
No.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Wow, the language here is just fascinating. Nicely, I'm intrigued.

Speaker 11 (40:06):
Why was there no public health emergency considered regarding the
firebombing of crisis pregnancy centers. There's certainly health and safety
risks there. Look over the last year historically, but especially
during the last year since the Dobbs memo was leaked
and since Roe was overturned, we've seen at least two
very different perspectives towards the most vulnerable in our society articulated,

(40:28):
and it's been pretty intriguing to see which one attracts
the most violent the trial.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
That's true, and we have had very little response, actually
no response from this current administration about those attacks. As
you mentioned, is there no retribution for these pregnancy centers
as they.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Try and fight back.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
I mean, they really don't have a group they can
go after. These are anonymous groups that are funded by
sorrows and other individuals. These are not conspiracy theories. There
are direct traces to where these anti these these pro
abortion activists are showing up. So where how do you
fight back?

Speaker 10 (41:07):
Well, there's this goes back to what I was saying,
there's there's two standards of justice here. And ultimately, you know,
we saw this with the George Floyd protests in twenty twenty.
If you know, January sixth was the worst event in
American history. You know, burning down cities was fine, right,
And then we see that here with.

Speaker 9 (41:22):
The crisis pregnancy centers.

Speaker 10 (41:24):
If there was one, and by the way, there aren't,
But if there was one pro life activist who went
too far and called in a bomb thread or something
like that, you know, you would hear about it for weeks, right,
And so I think that's what's here happening here. The
other thing I think it's really important is to understand
just how important the Democratic Party sees abortion.

Speaker 9 (41:40):
It is literally everything to.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Them, and when they're one message all midterm, right, and.

Speaker 9 (41:46):
So when they say national emergency.

Speaker 10 (41:48):
It's laughable to us, it's laughable to normal people, but
to people who think abortion is like a sacrament, it's
absolutely essential, and so that's where they're at.

Speaker 9 (41:55):
They see it.

Speaker 7 (41:56):
One one very brief point on the on the legal
authority here, you know, public health emergency haven't been declared,
you know, too often. It's something you really can't sue
about either because of Grant's additional authorities to the federal
Government's not exactly hurting people. It just opens up more money.
But if you look at the language of the law,
it says public health emergencies. You know, the Secretary of
Health and Human Services can declare a public health emergency.

(42:17):
There's no judicial review basically, and then it gives some
examples bioterror attack, you know, or widespread you know, communicable
disease basically. So frankly, I mean, abortion is nowhere in
the ballpark, but.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Well, in their worlds, they're saying, right, that's a great point.
Bioterrorism and pandemics are emergencies, and not wanting women to
kill their babies is apparently an emergency or.

Speaker 9 (42:42):
Lack of access.

Speaker 7 (42:43):
I mean, why couldn't we declare you know, and I
hate to get on the non delegation horse because I
think it's typically a bad attack. But we could declare
any kind of health care access to be a national emergency.
Kids don't get enough food, you know, this child doesn't
have money to pay his you know, Rhode Island, coyote,
you know what I mean. Like, all of these could

(43:03):
be emergencies. Anything could be an emergency. So this is
one of those things where if Congress thinks that this
is silly, and I think that they will, and I
think we'll see those letters they need to look at
the authorities the under the Public Health Act.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Is the pendulum swinging well on that front.

Speaker 11 (43:17):
From this front here, i'd like to say yes, and
we see encouraging signs, but time will tell.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Technology is certainly playing a good part in that as
more women see how viable a life is at very
very early stages. So I always love the discussions about
the pendulum swinging, and there are very few moments where
you see there are signs of it shifting. But I
think we have a few areas nowadays, including in this area.

(43:44):
Well that's all the time we have panelists. Thank you
so much for joining us. Andrew Clauster and Laganier John Schweppe,
thank you so much. When we come back, One American
News is Caitlin Sinclair has obtained unexclusive one on one.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
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We get the g see details from her when we return.

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Speaker 1 (46:20):
Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
New York Congressman George Santos has been the talk of
the town since the swearing in of the one hundred
and eighteenth Congress. Reporters have clamored outside his office, chomping
at the bit to get any sound bite they can,
Yet Santos has remained evasive avoiding a lot of media.
He would only grant one person the courtesy of a
face to face sit down.

Speaker 12 (46:43):
How do you assure the American people that you can
serve with honesty and with integrity.

Speaker 13 (46:50):
I have done that over the course of this entire process.
I have shown up to work. I have done my job.
I have voted exactly how I said I would vote.
I said I would be pro life. I have voted
in the most toughest pro life bills that have hit
the floor. I'm co sponsoring pro life bills. I am
doing exactly what I said I would do. I'm going

(47:11):
to stand up to the institution of the establishment. I'm
going to stand up to all the cover ups of
COVID and Anthony Fauci and all of those things pertaining
to the vaccination. I'm going to stand up for education
and holding the teachers union accountable and the president of
the Teachers' Union accountable. Those are all the promises I need.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Our very own New York correspondent, Caitlin Sinclair, who joins
US now. Caitlin, there are so many preconceptions that people
have about George Santos. First of all, how was this
interview with him in trying to dispel some of those
preconceived notions. People have people that just think he's just

(47:49):
a bald fased liar.

Speaker 12 (47:50):
Of course, and the media has not done him no favors,
of course. You know what, I think, he came across contrite.
I will say he got to share and touch on
some of those accusations. We didn't go over all of them,
but we touched on I would say, the most egregious
ones that I think a lot of his constituency and

(48:11):
his voters were looking for him to answer, and this
was his real chance at responding, right the first time
that he was actually responding to any of these allegations.
So I will say he came across his contrite. He
did apologize many times. What I took away from it
was I wish that he got more into his upbringing

(48:32):
and his own story, because I really do feel, knowing
him for about three or four years now, that his
story would have hit home with New York's third congressional district.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Ah, that's amazing. So walking into this, I mean, you
already have a history with him, and that you know his.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Story, You know who he is as a person, at
least from your vantage and so now you're seeing his
names thrown all over the press. He is being a
key used of lying about everything about his background, and
yet you feel like you know the real story. Yes,
that must have been very frustrating to try and pull
out of him and have this kind of tug of

(49:11):
war with someone you kind of know as well.

Speaker 12 (49:13):
I think Chanelle actually made the interview a lot tougher
because I think I thought I knew him and I
know what he stands for, and I've known all along
where he was trying to get to and we followed
him along the first time he was running and this
entire campaign season, as we did with all of the
freshmen that made it all of their campaigns, and I

(49:37):
really thought that his story would have resonated with the
people back home.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
And what is that story?

Speaker 2 (49:42):
I mean, is he Is he really a working class
guy who kind of crawled his way to the top,
or is he just insecure about a lot of things
and so that's why he makes things up?

Speaker 1 (49:52):
What's going on here?

Speaker 12 (49:53):
I think this is a bit of psychology one on one.
So these just with a basic psychology course, you can
see that these issues choose are simply issues of self confidence,
self image which a lot of us struggle from. And
his story is one of a working classman who would
go home at night after working odd jobs. He would

(50:13):
be youtubing business ideas, how to get into finance. These
are the things he was doing behind the scenes right
to grow, and eventually he had to take a chance
on himself. He wanted others to take a chance on him,
and I think that's where the embellishing started. He had
boyfriends and girlfriends throughout his life, and he had to

(50:35):
keep up with those embellishments or exaggerations. And I don't
think this was a well thought out, elaborate plan. I
don't think he went into politics saying I have to
make up this entire story. I think it was one
lie here, one lie there that just snowballed interesting.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
So he's had a whole history of people in his
past that he has told certain bits and pieces of
stories too, and so suddenly he realized he couldn't change
that narrative once he became a public figure.

Speaker 12 (51:05):
And once he got to be a vice president of
a company. I'm sure that he I'm sure that was
his goal all along, and he felt he had to
come across as a more established and polished person with
a different upbringing, with that higher degree of education, that

(51:25):
formal diploma that many from his own district do not have.
So he felt in order to get to where he
wanted to and where he eventually did, he had to
come across as someone that he wasn't. And throughout his
life he took that story and shared it with ex boyfriends,
shared it with different people. And I think that's what

(51:45):
we've been hearing a lot of lately.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
You know what's ironic is that so much so many
members of Congress are actually people who have embellished a
lot of their personal story.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
To get where they are.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
It's just a rare thing that they're caught or exposed
all in one go. Biden President Joe Biden plagiarized his
way through college, lied all his life about various very
key elements of his own life, and he is now president.
But I think this is this does merit an interesting
conversation now about how is the Republican Party.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Dealing with George Santos. Now he has earned the place
of certain committee.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Seats, this has earned him the ire of both sides,
Democrats and Republicans. Stepping out and saying he shouldn't be there,
and I want to highlight a very particular moment in
your interview.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Well, you got this statement from him, and.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Just twenty four hours later, headlines broke out saying that
he was leaving some of these committee chairs.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Let's listen to this. You're on a technology and science committee.

Speaker 12 (52:52):
I know, how do you respond to those outcries to
that anger.

Speaker 13 (52:57):
Eric Swawell slept with the Chinese spy, serves in the
Intelligence Committee. Adam Shift lied to the American people, and
he was chair of the Intelligence Committee. Elan Omar said
nine to eleven was some people did something, and she
serves in the Foreign Affairs Committee. I can go on.
The list goes on and on. Right, those are just

(53:18):
the topical. I have done nothing to hurt to to
bring harm to anybody in any way, shape or For
a matter of fact, I'm called extreme sympathizer of Israel

(53:40):
because I support Israel's right to defend herself. So this
is all the stuff that I deal with on a
regular basis. Right, this whole committee thing should be one
hundred percent up to the up to leadership to determine
on valid reasons is what is appropriate and what is

(54:03):
not appropriate. This whole outcry of members going on TV
and saying this one shouldn't sit here, that one shouldn't
sit there, shouldn't work like that.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yet, twenty four hours, barely twenty four hours after Noddy
said that, he was trending all over social media, and
it turns out he was going to put a pause
I suppose on the committee assignments he was given.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
That's right, what's going on?

Speaker 12 (54:27):
So I've had a few off the record conversations with
the Congressman himself and a few inservices.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Yes, since that news broke.

Speaker 12 (54:37):
Now you can hear in that interview in that short
clip the grit and the determination in his voice.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
And he's not wrong. He brings up some very valid points.
I mean there are just there're actually national security issues
with some past members on some of these and he's
not bringing national security problems. This is just resume embellishing
that he's and boiled in.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Okay.

Speaker 12 (55:01):
So with that said, there has been some speculation that
some of his own GOP members, including Democrats, that they
those that are loudly calling for him to step away
from these committees, they might have their own agenda. They
might be wanting to be the big man on campus.

(55:21):
So we don't know exactly what's going on, and we're
going to be looking into it.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
But this was not as the viewers can.

Speaker 12 (55:31):
Probably tell and draw their own conclusions, This was not
exactly Congressman George Santos voluntarily temporarily I should add the
word temporarily stepping away from his committee assignments.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
And the conflict now is that he wants to make
sure that those seats are open for him when he
emerges from these investigations.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Yes, who's conducting these investigations? Do we know? The government?

Speaker 12 (56:00):
So there are many looking into various accusations, and his
team has told one American news that he is fully cooperating.
So there's the FEC filings first, that seven hundred thousand
dollars that they're looking into, whether that was a person alone,
where that money came from. There is an attorney general
in Queen's another attorney general on Long Island that they're

(56:24):
both looking into various claims of these allegations.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
So wow, so he's being investigated in all he is.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
There's no way that these investigations conclude before absolutely a.

Speaker 12 (56:38):
Lot of these criminal investigations continue as members of Congress
fill out their term, so unfortunately, we probably won't have
this information and he will continue to serve. So I
don't exactly know how he would take his seats back
on these committees, But for right now, those seats are

(56:59):
being held for him, so they're not being filled. He's
temporarily walking away until he says his name can get
cleared by ethics committees and whoever else is looking into
these investigations. When that exactly will happen, we don't know
that yet.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Do you think with the exposing of all of these
stories about him, kind of stripping him down to kind
of back to base level with him, do you think
that will give him a chance to become an honest
broker about himself.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Or has he been doing this for so long?

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Is there just no fixing someone who embellishes here and there.
Do you think he's he's been transformed or changed at
all from this experience?

Speaker 1 (57:39):
You know what I do?

Speaker 12 (57:41):
I do. I spoke with him when this news all broke,
and he sounded different from that initial conversation to my
most recent conversations with him.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
And you've known in a few years from covering him
over the years. Yes, yes, And.

Speaker 12 (57:59):
As big of an ego, as I know he has,
and I know his pride is what has gotten in
the way actually of him telling his full story. He
sounds very humbled by all of this and his apologies,
although they are littered with a bit of frustration.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
I do believe that he is sorry. I do believe
that he regrets it.

Speaker 12 (58:20):
And he said himself, is there anything more humiliating than
having to go on national television and apologize and admit
that he embellished and he is not this person that
he has told so many of his own friends and
family and donors and campaign staffers that he was. So

(58:42):
I don't know if he gets more humiliating than that.
So I do believe he's learned his lesson, and I
think he really wants a second chance to know.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
I think he really wants to show.

Speaker 12 (58:52):
His constituency and the many donors that he had that
he can do this job and he was going to
focus on the issues. He's going to still focus on
those exact issues that he believes voters voted for him.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Why they voted for.

Speaker 12 (59:07):
Him, crime in recognizing inflation, the economy, bringing small businesses.
Back to New York's third Congressional district, supporting law enforcement.
Those are the issues and he really plans to focus
on them and prove himself.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Caitlyn Sinclair, thank you so much for the interview. Great
interview at airs all weekend, so that's our viewers get
to see all of that. So thank you for doing
that interview and spending the time dropping by the DC Bureau.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Thank you for having me. That's all the time we have.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Remember to watch Weekly Briefing every Saturday and Sunday at
two pm Eastern, or you can catch the latest episode
now on iHeartRadio. Remember to download Away and Live and
watch One American News on your favorite streaming device. I'm
Schanel ViOn. Thank you for watching. Until next time,
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