April 28, 2025 • 45 mins
In this episode of Whyte Noise, Michael and Ryan explore the mysterious world of ghosts and spirituality with special guest Rainbow Dawn — Certified Sound Healing Practitioner, Reiki Master, Natural Healer, and Crystal Enthusiast. From personal paranormal experiences to the science of consciousness and energy healing, they unpack the evolving relationship between the spiritual and scientific.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Oh, welcome, welcome back to white noise. Ryan. It's no
longer white where you are. You don't have snow anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh, I'm so thankful for that. By the way, Like
it's actually warm, it's like in the high sixties, almost seventies,
and wow, I'm ready. I'm here for it. I'm over
the cold.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
We had that last little black winter for a second there,
and I just saw your picture of like winter Wonderland
and I was like, it's April over it. Anyway, I'm
so excited because, as you know, today's topic is ghosts,
which made me immediately think of my fabulous friend Elizabeth,
who we were just saying, I know is Beth, but
you said it's midlife crisis time. Yes, also known as
(00:49):
Rainbow Dawn for those of you on Instagram looking for
healing and spiritual connection and always see it on your shirt.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Oh yeah, I was listening to one of your episodes.
It's about I guess gems and I think Ryan specifically
said that you know that it's a pseudoscience or that
it's a placebo effect about crystals. But I will say
I love my crystals and they have lots of good energy,
so I disagree with them.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh oh, let me be clear. I didn't actually take
an opinion. I was just stating what the like the
science behind it, so like for example today, like what
we're going to talk about today, Well I won't. I'll
get into it when I get into it. But basically,
while there's no science behind it, I don't know that
I agree. Yeah. So in other words, I would never
You wear those crystals and you feel that energy and
(01:37):
I'm here for it.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
It's interesting. I don't know that I felt personally thinks
from crystals, but I do have the couple of I
think the crystals or stones that you sent me actually
and I actually those are very weirdly comforting for me now,
but I think because they came from you. So we've
known each other, Elizabeth and I have known each other
for a long time. We traveled together. We did a
(02:00):
couple of really fabulous trips because you put together that
wonderful group of like queer influencers and we did some
really amazing trips together.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, great time. We also we went to Dave of
the Dead in Mexico. Yes, you should post some pictures
of your face all painted up. That was pandamic oh
that's going to go with this.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah. Yeah, on the we went with Alison, you know,
my sister. Where did you come up with the idea
for that group though? For that because you also do travel?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, so, I mean I started, I was in travel
for a really long time and really just wanted more representation.
All of the marketing for LGBTQ travelers was like circuit parties,
you know, it was white guys and speedos with you know,
fixed packs, and so the idea was to bring together
a group of all different people and and show that,
(02:47):
you know, it's not that gay travel is more than
just what the current marketing was showing.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I have a really good friends Ben Keith, who have
an outdoor like travel company, Slash get Out or sort
of company. He's probably gonna listen to this and be like, Ryan,
you really screwed that up. And I apologize Keith. But
it was under the same guys, by the way, which
is like the things that would bring our community head
they don't have to revolve around well bluntly sex and drugs.
(03:15):
It's actually more of what our community needs. So cheers
to you.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Absolutely, Yeah, I believe on that trip there was still
sex and drugs, but there was other well I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Like, I didn't say it was bad show.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I didn't say there were bad things. Just that's why
you brought in a square like me, who like a
wild night is a Gin and Tonic Like, no, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Michael was telling stories. Yeah, Michael was telling stories that
sounded I don't know. You're such an old soul. All
of your stories are very like an old British lady.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Basically, like, we had to have full representation, so we
did have, you know, some fun people, and then we
had me. And I'm just like, have you guys heard
of this great Debbie Randolds story?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
An old British lady is your spirit animal?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Probably? But yeah, so because back the speaking of spiritual stuff.
So that's the why I thought of you. Because so also,
if you're looking to take a trip Loveland and sea travel,
you're brilliant. You put together my family's trip this coming summer,
we're going to Alaska, and you did a great job
of wrangling my family. But what was your journey into
(04:21):
the world of spiritual things?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So it actually started with ghosts, So it's appropriate that
I'm on here. I went to This was a completely
random thing. I was driving back from Cleveland with a
good friend of mine, Tim, who you know also, and
we were passing the Mansfield exit and I said, that's
where the Shawshank prison in the is the Mansfield Reformatory.
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And I was like, let's just go because I've always
wanted to go. I heard it was really haunted. I
love Shawshank Redemption. That movie is like fantastic, and so
just on a whim, we pulled off the exit and
decided to go take a little tour and it was
just the two of us. They were almost closing for
the day. We didn't do a guided tour. It was
just us and that place is just incredible. I mean,
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just walking into it, you just feel a shift. And
so we walked through, we did the whole thing. I
was standing in front of one of the cells and
I just started crying and I was like, I don't
know what, like, I just like felt this like really
heavy energy. And then later I went through and watched
all of the videos that we made and there were
answers to the questions that we were asking. We didn't
(05:30):
hear them while we were asking them, but the videos
had answers. So we were saying things and we were
there were voices answering this, and it just blew my
mind because I've been kind of skeptical most of my life.
When I was younger, I was probably really tuned in
and I think I shut it out, but that just
kind of blew my mind. And then I kept feeling
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something around me. So I kept feeling this energy and
I thought, oh my gosh, I brought home an attachment
and I was like freaking out. So I went to
a side. I ended up going to four psych gicks
because I didn't leave the first one or the second
one or this. It took me forward to actually believe them.
And they all said that I had mediumship abilities and
that something was trying to get a message through and
(06:16):
that I should explore my gifts. And so I started
exploring them, and it turns out I'm pretty connected with
energy and kind of have a knack for healing, I guess,
or helping people heal themselves, which is really what healers do.
You know, we activate the body's own healing.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
That's incredible.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Well, because didn't you have like a spirit follow you home?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I thought I had a spirit follow me home, but
it turns out it was it was a childhood friend
of mine who died in a car accident, and that's
the energy that was with me. And as soon as
I gave the message that he was trying to get
to someone else, it was gone. It was like I
felt it away, and then I guess that's something kind
(07:02):
of opened up. And then I started having other random
dead people visit me, which was.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
A lot I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, yeah, my grandmother hung around for a while. Every
time someone on my dad's side of the family passed away,
like a week before my grave, I could feel my
grandmother there. So it was almost like she was there
saying she's ready to receive you know that other person.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So a majority of your other experiences, have they revolved
around family or do you do you feel like at
any point you've like in other words, the way I
perceived this is like your energy is out there, their
energy is out there. There's some sort of crossing of
paths at some point, and the spirit of this is like, hey,
wait a second, I just saw you hold on. Maybe
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you can help me.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, So it's it's family, but also other people. So
my understanding is, you know people that are in your family,
you're connected with on a deep level, even if you
didn't know them. So like we have ancestors that were
connected to even if we never knew them in our lifetimes.
So they're always kind of watching over us, and they're
always kind of around and they will help us and
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kind of guide us sometimes. But then when you are
tuned in and you're open to receiving messages from the
other side, it can be really random. It can be
anyone that wants to try to get a message through.
Most of the time it's people that have unresolved business
that they feel, I guess, feel that they need to
(08:33):
have some help with. I have not enjoyed doing the
mediumship part of it. My mentor did have me go
through a lot of mediumship exercises because it really helps
with tapping in and your intuition and everything, but I
really was more interested in the energy healing part of
all of this. So it's funny because you have to
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set boundaries even with the other side, so you have
to kind of At first, I was like, I felt
like I had to give these messages to people, or
I had to talk to them, I had to help them.
But I've learned that you set boundaries, just like with
living people. You have to say, like I'm going to bed,
don't like wake me up with random messages right now.
I'm not interested right right at the moment.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
So I learned to set boundaries and maybe that's my
that was my life lesson with all of this is, well,
if you can't set boundaries with you with live you know,
live people were going to do it with deceased people.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Wow. I don't know why. I imagine that, like deceased
people are pushier.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
You can tell sometimes that people who were had really
strong personalities when they were alive they still have those.
So there are some like, you know, strong willed grandmothers
and such.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I believe that, yeah, was your grandmother's strong world.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yes, but but she has a very specific energy that
is it's just like I'm being wrapped in a blanket,
like she was just warmth and love and everything. But
there are some other people in my face family that
were a little bit I don't know, pushy.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Maybe I love looking for the correct word because it's like,
are they listening now?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I mean they're probably, yeah, they're probably here right now.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I'm just looking. You have a shelf of beautiful bulls
behind you because you do a lot of sound healing
and like for those who don't know, and I'm waiting
for something to like knock over one piss off relatively
to be like, yeah, I'm not pushy.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I love that it persists. There's souls that you love
and then there's souls that you tolerate.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's been. It's been quite a journey
for sure, But I'm really tapping into different energies now
with the healing. It's it's actually and I'm not going
to get too woo woo on you, but a lot
of the healing is done with the assistance of more
angelic energies and that's like a completely different vibration. So
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when loved ones past, you know, it is like a
high vibration, but when I'm tapping into healing energies, that's
like an even higher vibration. So it's really important to
tap into highest level that I possibly can to bring
in that healing energy for people. And then you have
earthbound spirits, which are not loved ones that pass through
people that are kind of stuck, and those are lower
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vibrational things, and those are the ones that you find
like at the prisons, that are haunted in other places
and totally different denser energy feeling.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
We've actually done. We did a healing I don't know,
not exercise, but like you did a session with me
over the phone too, But I there was when we
were working through as it was the chakras right in colors,
and there was one spot where Elizabeth moved to and
I just started to cry, like I was just laying
on my own on the floor and I don't know
what happened. It was just like all of a sudden,
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something just unlocked out of nowhere and it's where not
like tears just started rolling down my face. It was
one of It was such a moving, one of those
experiences that I will never forget.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
And very not only intrigued but aligned to the idea
of personal energy and how it works. Like I love
of massage and massage therapy and I know what sort
of massage I'm getting by the time the person walks
in the room, because I can feel their energy and
I can usually ask. I'll be like, do you do
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any sort of energy work? And I always know and
they'll be like, oh, yeah, I absolutely do, and I
can tell. And then there's other ones where I'm like
you don't do energy work, do you, And they'll be like,
oh no, that's not for me. It's just too much.
And I'm like, okay, no, can I get that? So yeah,
I would agree that there's a feeling that comes with
certain things that sometimes pulls back the covers, if you will.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah. Yeah, And some people are more sensitive to it
than others. I think right now we're just at a
point where a lot of people are becoming more aware
and more sensitive or opening up to it. It's almost
like there's something called the dark Knight of the soul
that people go through, which is usually kind of like
a rock bottom situation that begins the transformation process when
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you're trying to ascend or trying to net with your
higher self. And I feel it collectively with the state
of our world right now, we're in a dark night
of the soul as as a country, as a planet,
and so more and more people are turning inward because
you know, we can't control so many of these external things,
and so we are kind of collectively waking up a
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little bit, which is kind of the silver lining of
all of the horrific things happening right now. It's the
way that I can feel like at least some people
are finally like turning inward and realizing that everything like
lies within.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
All right, well, should we should we jump into our
little presentation portion of the show.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I'm ready for it? Great, Yeah, I think Ryan should
go first. Okay, he has to redeem himself for a
crystal comment. I'm totally petting. I'm totally kidding.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Okay, all right, Ryan, are you ready? I am okay,
and go.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You know what's funny is I actually had a little
bit of a story that I told when the topic
came up in the end of last week's podcast. But
if I get to that, I'll share it. But I
had kind of a recent experience that I thought was interesting,
So I first kind of did a little bit of
research to figure out because I was like, is there
any sort of peer reviewed science as it relates to ghosts?
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And the answer is no. In reality, there's no peer
review to greed science around the existence of ghost and
a majority of the research is around parapsychology, cognitive psychology, neuroscience,
and environmental psychology, which tends to fall into the areas
of like why we believe the role of external stimulation,
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particularly like infrasounds, EMF, electromagnetic fields, sleep paralysis, and paradalia,
which has come up in the podcast, which is where
we associate we give human characteristics to things that are
not human. I will say that parapsychology is kind of
like the controversial middle ground around gross research, but typically
picks up criticisms around methodology, confirmation bias, and a failure
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to repeat. Now it's funny I read the failure to
repeat part and I'm like, obviously, if we're dealing with
something that has has its own life principle or has
its own existence principle, I could understand why repeatability would
be a problem. Just my own sort of two cents.
But this again, let's be uned into a topic that
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I've kind of already talked about before. But I'm going
to run with it on a different spin because I
actually operate not from a place of disbelief on most things.
I operate from a place of there is so much
we do not know or understand about the world and
the universe around us, period, And like it's one of
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these things where it's so hard for us to understand
a new concept, but then down the road we start
to realize just how easy it was to understand because
it always existed around us. So I think there's a
lot of this in the world. So I actually genuinely well,
I don't know that I believe, but I have a
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feeling towards the idea that a lot of ghostly interactions
actually revolve around quantum science and quantum behaviors. And there
is a fair amount of research going on right now
that consciousness is a quantum concept. And there are two
scientists that are pretty heavy it, Roger Penrose and Stuart
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Hammerhoff or hanner Hoff. My writing is terrible there, but
it's Stuart's hammer is off. I'm sure somebody's going to
take that name down. But it's referred to as orchestrated
objective reduction. So, in other words, the mind isn't operating
from classical computation. It results from quantum level coherence and
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microtubules in the brain that allows for non local connections
or quantum entanglements to happen across the brain. And a
lot of people say that the brain is way too warm, wet,
and noisy. But the bottom line is, as I've talked
about before, we've seen quantum operating principles and other biological beings,
so photosynthesis and bird's ability to navigate by seeing or
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knowing or being aware of the magnetic fields of the earth.
So okay, so let's say here and again, this is
all theory obviously that consciousness itself is quantum. If it's true,
it would mean that consciousness can decohere from the body
right and reconfigure itself within space time. So this would
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explain why we have shared death experiences, why everyone has
a very common death experience. They see the light, they
travel to it, or they see beings of light, the
reflection of the reflection of life. This is why we
would have visitations. And I'll talk about that a bit
more in a second. And then how people know things
that they sho didn't know, or become aware of things
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that they shouldn't know existed, or have information prior to
it actually happening. So ghosts could be quantum echoes. And
what that would mean is that a ghost sighting er
is essentially an interference pattern of quantum information that momentarily
collides with us. So it would be an intersection of
our reality with their reality. So it was the idea
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that consciousness is quantum kind of lends to the idea
that ghosts themselves are actually like our memories and stuff
are actually stored kept external to our bodies, which I
think is in principle incredible. But there is no I
want to again say, there's no science behind this. I mean,
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they're starting to become science behind it, like we're just
now starting to get into the quantum sciences. But you know,
it's funny when I read about you know, consciousness being quantum,
the first thing that my mind went to is this
starts to create an interesting place to start to explain
the reality of apparitions and ghosts and seeing the future
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and seeing other realities or you know, knowing information that
you maybe shouldn't know.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So the there are some new studies they're doing about
quantum entanglement, which is fascinating. I mean, there, I think
one of the things. So when I'm doing healing, I'm
tapping into the quantum field. So the way I was
able to do that session with Michael remotely was I
was tapping into the quantum field, which there's no there's
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no distance, there's no time and space in that. It's
so you know, I'm not I'm not super into science,
and but I am a very logical person, so that's
why this whole thing has been, you know, kind of
difficult for me to begin with. So any type of
information that I can latch onto that makes sense to
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me kind of like eases it. It kind of gets
my logical brain and alignment with the spiritual side, and
that's really helpful. And it is tapping into that quantum field.
And people who are sensitive to energies. When I'm doing
energy work remotely, they can feel it. So I will
be sending energy through the quantum field to someone and
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they'll say, I feel that in my foot, and to me,
that's proof enough. I mean, it's not even a placebo
effect because they don't know where I'm sending it. It's
like they tell me, and it's validation. So I absolutely
believe that the more research that's done, it's going to
be one of those things where anything that used to
be impossible that we're doing now, like it's just a
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time thing where we just haven't gotten to the point
where we can explain it yet, right which just like
if you took cell phone back, you know, back to
the early days that it would make no sense or
Wi fi, you know, Wi Fi is like this invisible
thing that's connecting people, and everybody's okay that, but they're
not necessarily okay with the idea that energies er are,
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you know, flowing around us too?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah. I mean you think about even just like the
idea of a microprocessor, which is really just an on
off switch, and now suddenly we have these things that
have trillions of on off switches inside of them, all
operating at once in unison. Right, Nobody at a certain
time could have ever imagined conceptually anything like that being
persistent or existing. I think this is exactly and I
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said this in the photosynthesis thing. I think once we
once we actually understand how this works, I think we're
going to be shocked to find out how many other
things operate within these principles, and we start to actually
have a better understanding of what we are relative to
what we're surrounded with. You know, It's like I said again,
that whole idea is kind of how I operate in life.
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Like I don't necessarily disbelieve in anything. I'm open to
understanding more and saying like I get it, it's kind
of logically doesn't make sense, But at the same time,
I just know there's a lot I don't know, but yeah, Michael,
what's my time?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Oh, you have one minute in eight seconds.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
So I was in I was in Toronto and stayed
at the King Eddie, the King Edward Hotel, which is
like an omni hotel. I go there for business and
I had gotten my room and there's these really long,
vast corridors through that hotel. It's pretty old and it's
actually known to be haunted. And I got to the
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long corridor. My room was all the way at the
far end of a corridor and it was kind of
like a t intersection. So I came around from the
right hand side. And as I came around from the
right hand side to then make a left and go
down this long corridor, out of the side of my eye,
I saw a very large human but looked like they
had on a trench coat, kind of come the same
direction and then come down behind me. And as I'm
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proceeding down that hallway, this person is I perceived it
was almost like it was heavy steps, and they kept
getting closer and closer and closer to me, to the
point that it actually started to make me feel uncomfortable,
like it was one of those things where I'm like,
I'm like, I don't like how you're aggressing me, and I,
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for whatever reason, chose not to look back. I chose
not to engage, but got to my door, swiped, went in,
shut the door and shut it and then turn around
and stood for a second. And the person went into
the door right next to mine. But the very key thing,
literally key thing that I remember is I heard the key,
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jangle of keys. I heard a key going to a slot,
unlock the door, doorlatch open, person go in, shut door,
slammed door right and I was like, Okay, well that
was weird. And I'm and in my mind, I'm going like,
I wonder what that room is. I wonder if it's
like a like a like a closet with hotel crap
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or what was going on. So I get changed and
I go out to go to dinner, and I'm just
going to the bar downstairs, and I look and the
door next to mine is just another hotel door. It
has no key hole, it has no place to place
a key, and it's just another room. So I immediately
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go I'm like, well a whole bunch of this don't
add up. And I went down to the bar. I
got my dinner and I'm talking to the bar guy
and I was like, hey. I was like, I had
the weirdest thing happened. Let me tell you. And I
start to tell him about it, and he's like, I'm
gonna do with the hotel manager. I want you to
tell the hotel manager. And I'm like okay. So I
reyals to the hotel manager and they're like, maybe it
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was Bob. And I was like, well, how big is
Bob and they're like, Bob's like five to four and
I was like, no, this individual was as tall as me,
if not taller, and big, like this was a big human,
if human, and they're like, but we don't have anyone
on staff that looks like that. And I'm like, I
don't have to tell you. And that was that was
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kind of that I kind of believe it was something.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
So, yeah, that's really cool. I think a lot of
you know, there's there's a lot of theories on different
types of ghosts, and one of one of them is
just like an imprint and energetic imprint, which is kind
of like things that happen in places with a lot
of like trauma or or there was like some kind
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of you know, incident and they play on a loop.
So like that's when you tend to hear noises like
keys rattling, or people that just walk up and down
a hallway. They don't engage with anyone. It's just almost
like watching a movie of this energy that's like stuck
in a loop. Those are really fascinating, But like those
noises like that don't make sense for the current time.
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I think those happen quite often in places that are older,
or there's like cannons that you can hear in certain
battlefields that just happen randomly.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I love a good ghost story. Nice, well your time.
It was dinged a little while ago. I was just
letting the story go.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Well, thank you. Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I am Elizabeth?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I'm ready? All right, I'm waity for whatever accent is
about to come out of Michael's Mount.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I don't know that their accents this time, but you
never know, truly. I surprise myself half the time. All right, Ready,
set go mine. I just I love this topic my
whole life. I've been fascinated by ghost stories and the
universe and things like this. It's funny. My mom just
visited and she actually was saying. She was like, I
think I told her what this episode was going to
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be about, and she was like, oh, our house is haunted.
And I was like, what the house that I grew
up in and she was like, oh, yes, Michael, you
don't know. And I was like, I don't know. We
live in a grew up in a really old house.
And she was like yeah. She was like, especially now
since I retired and I'm home more, she was like,
I just hear things. And she was like, that's sometimes,
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like in the middle of the night, she just hears things.
And she's like, now that you're not there, your sister's
not there, we don't have a big dog anymore, your
father's asleep. She was like, I just hear footsteps or
things like that. Are things being moved? And I was like,
is it scary? She was like, no, it's not scary
at all. It's fine. It's just like somebody else is there.
She's like, I'm not scared of it. It's just like, well,
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someone else is in the house now. And I'm like mom,
and she's like, but not like in it's like a ghost.
And it was just funny how like matter of fact
she was about it, which I kind of loved. I
was like, oh, whoa, So maybe I don't know. Maybe
when I was a kid, I like there were dreams
of something, you know, that there was more there than
I thought. But I've always loved this stuff. So I've
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just had a couple of instances in my life that
sort of helped confirm that. I was like, oh, no,
there are things beyond the first one was when I
was studying abroad and a friend and I went to
Edinburgh for a weekend and I wanted to do like
scary you know, because Edinburgh famously is a very haunted place,
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and they have this catacombs tour and she didn't want
to go on it. She was like, it'll scare me.
I was like, I want to do this. So I
did this like midnight tour of the Catacombs, and of
course they make it very theatrical. You know, go in
through like a house where they like knocked a hole
in a wall and then found this entrance and you
go down and there's all these rooms. It's this massive
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underground space. They had like one room like Wickens had
sort of taken over. They do ceremonies down there, and
of course our tour guides, like you know, in a
top hat and telling us spooky stories. But we go
into this one room and he was like, so, one
thing that happened down here is when there was this
great fire a couple hundred years ago, everyone went down
into the catacombs because at that time they were just
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like storage areas to flee the fire because the whole
town was on fire, and hundreds of people ended up
dying because it got so hot. They ended up quite
literally just like baking down there. This sort of like
horrific story. And he was like, well, there's this one
room that a lot of people have come. They always
feel different kinds of energy, but there's this one room
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specifically where there's a lot. So he was like, we're
going to go in, and he was like, and I'm
going to put out the candle and we're just going
to be here in the dark. And there's this one
family that came in and I saw them actually they
weren't plants because I saw them, like they walked in
at the same time as me. There were another like
they were American tourists and you know, going on his
a husband, wife and a couple of kids, and the
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husband specifically too, was like, well, you know, like this
little bit, so the guy blows out the candle where
I was standing around, and he didn't tell us specifically
what happens to people in there, but he was like
this is just a very active room, and you just
I wasn't actually going to talk about this until you
said the loop, and then I was like I remember this.
The dad, the American dad starts freaking out after a
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couple of minutes because he was like that, who's and
everyone's like what and he like literally starts freaking out,
and so the guy, the guy puts the light back on.
He was like sorry, okay, what happened, and he was
like a cold, small hand grabbed my hand. But there
was nobody there, like there was no other way to
get in, No one heard anyone come in. And he
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was like, that's interesting. There's a story about like a
little girl who's looking for her father, Like it must
have been that, like she was looking for her father.
And he was like his kids were across the room
from him, because at first he was like you know,
he's like I don't know, maybe they felt but yeah,
he said it was too small to be one of
his kids, and he said it was cold anyway. He
was like very freaked out, which was kind of I
was like, oh my god, this guy like a spirit
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of like a little girl's looking for her dad. Found
the dad. But my personal one was the first time
I met with a woman I guess like a medium
sheet a very good friend of mine who's very she's
this Italian casting director in La who's a very like skeptical.
She's like I am pragmatic. But she met with this
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woman because a friend of hers was like, you have
to meet her, and then she had this amazing experience
and so she's like, my, I have to try it.
So it's one of those like she had a phone number,
so I called her and she's like, I'm gonna meet
with you tomorrow. So but tonight, I want you to
write out ten questions that you have in life and
just don't tell me, don't tell anybody. Just the night before,
write the ten questions out and sit sort of meditate
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with them. So I was like, okay, so I write
ten questions I saw I like meditated with them. And
this is when I was like, I don't know that
I believe in a lot of this stuff. So she calls,
we talk. Over the course of the conversation, she answers
all ten questions in order. But then the thing that
really got me was she was like, there are people
here who want to talk to you. And I was
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like what. She was like, are you open to receiving this?
And I was like, I mean, okay, I was like nineteen.
I was like, right on our sure. And when she
was like, your grandmother is here, your mother's mother, and
I was like, oh, okay, And she was like, she's
really concerned about her health, her breathing, specifically because of
the air quality in your house, so that needs to
be addressed because she's actually she's really worried about your mom.
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She's been trying to sort of get to her and
she can't. The other thing is tell your father to
check the kitchen, specifically to check the fawcet because it's
going to break and your mom's gonna be really upset.
And she's already kind of on her last nerve with
home repair stuff, so she just doesn't need that in
her life right now. She's a lot of other stressors
and this is something she really doesn't need on her
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plate right now. And I was like, okay, and she
was like, and she wants you to eat more broccoli.
And I was like okay, and she was like, and
your uncle is here. It turned out as my uncle
who's killed at nine to eleven. She was like, he's here.
My great aunt from my father's side, Olga, she was there,
and she had very specific things that only they would
know to say, and I just remember being like WHOA.
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So then I called my mom and I was like, Mom,
apparently Grandma says you have to, you know, be careful
of the air and also tell Dad to check the fawcet.
And she was like okay. But it turned out that
our chimney was leaking into her closet and she's really
bad asthmaen and she's allergic to wood smoke, and so
whenever they were putting a fire in the fireplace, smoke
was getting into her room and it was affecting her breathing.
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So they had to have that recealed. And then not
a week later, my dad, who did not address the faucet,
was trying to fix something else and the pipe burst
in our kitchen and flooded our kitchen. And need this
to say, my mom was livid because she wanted to
hire a plumber and my dad wouldn't. He thought he
could do it himself. So it was just one of
those when those happened, I was like, WHOA, Okay, so
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it's incredible. So not like everything everything she said came
true and this woman was she was so just like
casual about it, and it was just it was weirdly
like really reassuring to know that, like these people are
still with us and still looking out for us and
somehow had some sort of foresight that we didn't have.
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It was it was really really and ever since then,
I don't know, I've been more connected to things in general.
Like I wear a ring that my mom gave me
that is my uncle's badge after he was killed in
nine to eleven and his men had these rings made
and it's very like just sort of special to me.
When I'm stressed, I touch it, Like Elizabeth, the stones
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that you gave me because of ever since our session
that had such an impact on me, and I'll find
them like they just sort of flowed around my life
and they will just sort of appear in really specific moments,
like I'll put a hand in a pocket and they're
just in that coat pocket weirdly on a morning when
I needed it, and I don't even know how they
ended up in that pocket. It's interesting and so I
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don't know. I just love this. And now I it's
not that I look for signs or look for connections,
but they just sort of see I think I'm just
more aware. And recently I went to a tarot card
reader and she again was so casually, again on a
folding chair in the hallway of her building, which feels
so correct. And I went as a buddy of mine
who I never thought would be into this stuff, he
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was like, yeah, you should go. She's predicted almost everything
in my life. Went to her and it was again
she was so like she's just flipping cards and she's like,
yeah this, yeah, that, ugh, why are you doing this?
Don't do that, and was so just kind of correct
about everything, and even similar to you. She was like,
you're not grounded. You really need to work on your grounding.
(35:26):
Your two up in the air and it's affecting. We
need to do more like grounding exercises with you, which
was just fascinating that beyond the people that are like
out there looking out for us, that we are I'm
just this is where I'm so fascinating. I think you
obviously learned so much more, but this how everything is
so interconnected between us to the Earth, to energy, to
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the universe, to people beyond us trying to connect to us.
Like Ryan, what you're saying with the quantum world, You're right,
but maybe this all is like Wi fi and once
we get there it all will make sense. But now
it's just sort of this sort of amazing, sort of
concept world that I don't understand, but when you tap
into it, it's really exciting. So yeah, anyway, that was mine.
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I was like, I just I love this stuff. So
here are a couple of my personal stories.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I think that's super fun. And I love how casual
your mom was about the house being haunted, especially considering
I mean, I'm guessing with her career, like she's she's
been a pretty logical person maybe, so I love that
she was just like, yeah, the house is haunted.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Oh my mom. I mean, she's a clinical psychologist, but
she fully believes in ghosts. She always has. We've that's
why she loves funerals weirdly and she collects funeral cards.
But yeah, she's been at funerals and she's just like
she loves this stuff. She always has because I think
she's one too where she's had instances where she feels
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like people have come to her and she's like, I
don't know if it's because I'm a psychologist. So what
I do for a living in with living people is
that they come and they tell me their problem. That
sometimes like people beyond have come and told me their
problems or they think I can fix their problems. Because
she's so just sort of open. So we even we
were at my uncle's funeral and something happened and she
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was like, Billy's here and I was like what, and
she was like, he just did because he thought it
would be funny, Like he like knocked somebody into a
candle and like this big candle so they got wax
all over them, and she was like, that's a Billy move.
She was like, you know that he wants to like
because this it was too serious. And she was like,
you know that he wanted to do something goofy because
the tone of the funeral is way too serious for him.
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And it was somebody who she knew would get would
find something like that funny, like something they would do,
would be like prank each other, and she was like,
he just prank Jean.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
There's so much that we don't know about the brain
to begin with, and.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah, because we only tap into she and she actually
it's funny she said that because she's very, very into brain.
She's read so many books on the brain, and she
was like, there's too much of the brain we don't understand.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, there's so much and this this is a little
bit off topic, but have you heard of the Telepathy Tapes. No,
it's a podcast that like apparently got super popular recently,
but it's about nonverbal autistic kids.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yes, I know, I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Apparently all are telepathic, and it's like there's this rate
they're trying to do research on it now. But it's
it's almost like whatever neurow divergency in their brain that
causes the autism has also unlocked some other you know,
this this other ability or whatever we have that prevents
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us from from tapping in Like they're able to tap
into it. So that's just like fascinating.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
With their parents specifically, I believe, or.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Sometimes caregivers I think too.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, it's a relationship driven sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yeah interesting, yeah, yeah, but really fascinating. So yeah, there's
so much we don't know. I think that's the the
more I learned, the more I realize that I know nothing.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yes, even with animals too. So the friend that I
was saying, who recommended the person that I speak to,
who again is very tounch her thing, her grandmother came
to her with that same thing, but her dog, which
I think is fascinating because she had a dog that
was a little white Schnauzer who was her life. Like
this dog was her ride or die and he died
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very suddenly, like very quickly in short and she was
devastated because he, you know, he was her child, and
very suddenly. And then one day she was really sad
and out of the blue, she just got another dog.
She got a puppy, and she immediately regretted it because
puppies are puppies, right, and he was a really easy one.
(39:45):
And she said there was a day she was like
sitting on her kitchen floor just crying, being like what
have I done? And then she ended up talking to
this woman and she was like, yeah, there's there's someone here,
but it's not I can't quite tap into who it is,
and she was like, it's not a person. This is
really happened before with me, but I just see it's
it's white. It's this energy that's white and small. It's
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sort of like a cloud, but it's it's it's very soft.
But he says that he loves his new brother and
that he's glad that you have him because he was
worried about you being alone and that he's glad that
you have someone and that it's gonna be okay, and
that you know, basically, he reassured her that she did
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the right thing and that he loves the new brother
because she also felt so guilty. She's like, I feel
like I'm replacing him, and and he basically gave her
like the big thumbs up, and she's like, oh my god,
that's him. And she was like small, white, fluffy, like
that's my dog. And she's like, oh, I've never had
a dog do that, but cool, and yeah, she was
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like and ever since and she, you know, she's like, Okay,
now I feel better about this. He likes his new brother.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I would never believe anyone that says like dogs don't
have a soul or don't have right they are are
so special and they're and so unique. They all have
different personalities, Like there's no way that that they don't
connect with us on a deeper spiritual level. I fully
believe that they do. And I had a similar experience
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with my with my dog, my dog Magic that I
got about a year ago. I actually had a dream
after I got her. I have a lot of stuff
that happens in my dreams, and I had a dream
my my previous two dogs that you know died a
while back. They were in the dream playing with Magic,
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my new dog, and they were they were accepting her
into the into the family, and it was just so beautiful.
And I hadn't dreamt about those dogs in forever, but
it was like it was like this like reassurance, like
you know, she's part of part of the pack, She's
part of the family.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Aw right. Maybe Tilly will come visit you after, I hope.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
So he's a.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Little friend the calmer state. Yeah, he'll be a little
more chilled out, and then next in the next quantum world.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
He's a good boy, but he is wound up to
I just think he still kind of got puppy energy.
At the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
All right, Beth Eliabeth, I'm so sorry you have to
choose a winner, whatever that means to you.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Okay, Well, Michael, you know I love you.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Uh huh, I lost, didn't I?
Speaker 3 (42:21):
When Ryan mentioned quantum entanglement, it just like I was like,
all right, that that's it for me. Oh but I
loved your stories.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
They're good, very good stories.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Thank you. I just wanted to tell stories. Yeah, right,
that is very cool.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Though.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
I was going to say, what did the quantum? What
did you feel from the quantum realm on it? Did? Did?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Was there a feeling from from the energy around the winner?
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Did? Did? Did the energy? Maybe pick Michael?
Speaker 3 (42:46):
You know, I think my own Michael. I think that
you actually do have like some energy with you right now.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
We really mm hm oh that's cool. I mean I
am an in my apartment, which is like a hundred
year old building.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
So I don't think it's a ghost because there's I
define a ghosts like an earthbound spirit, and then a
spirit is like someone who has crossed over that comes
back to visit like a loved one. So it's not
I'm not seeing like a ghost. I think it's a
loved one.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Oh Hi, I do that for joining me.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Well, I will talk like if I sent something, I
will talk just like it's a regular person, Like I'm
one of those crazy people.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
You'll see me like at the park talking to myself.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Hey, I love that. I talk to myself all the time.
And I don't even have like a spirit there to
be like I've talked to it. It's literally just me
and my my all the voices in my own head.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
I think when you start when you start talking about
family members, because you did bring up some family members,
but that that's kind of like you're you're inviting them
to the conversation. And anytime you go to like a
tarot reading or medium or psychic or any of that,
before you go put it out there, like tell your
family members that you want them to come through, ask
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them to come be with you, ask your spirit guides
to come to that session to get the most out
of it. That's something I think a lot of people
don't do, and they just get there and they don't
know what to do. And you can prepare for it though,
to make it a more meaningful session. For sure.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
If people do want to reach out to you, where
what's the best place to reach out to you.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Probably Instagram, so it's Rainbow DN twenty to eleven. There's
an underscore. I need to change it. I hate the
underscore thing on Instagram. But or just rainbow rainbowdon dot love.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
All right, now, what is our topic for next week?
Speaker 3 (44:43):
So you know what's funny is I actually had had
the thought yesterday about the word or the phrase. I
don't know if it could be a phraser word, but
it was going to be quantum entanglement, which is hilarious.
That's one of the reasons for Ian won today. But
now the word is is Cundalini.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Coundalini. I don't know what that is perfect I oh,
I'm not even gonna look up right now. I'm excited. Coundalini.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Get to learn?
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Okay, great, all right, well, thank you so so much
for joining us.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
With real pleasure to meet you, and thank you.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
And thank you to whoever's here with me. Thank you
for joining our bonus guest.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Yes, yes, all.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Right, and join us next week for Coundalini. We're all
going to learn with that, all right, Bye bye,
Oh, welcome, welcome back to white noise. Ryan. It's no
longer white where you are. You don't have snow anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh, I'm so thankful for that. By the way, Like
it's actually warm, it's like in the high sixties, almost seventies,
and wow, I'm ready. I'm here for it. I'm over
the cold.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
We had that last little black winter for a second there,
and I just saw your picture of like winter Wonderland
and I was like, it's April over it. Anyway, I'm
so excited because, as you know, today's topic is ghosts,
which made me immediately think of my fabulous friend Elizabeth,
who we were just saying, I know is Beth, but
you said it's midlife crisis time. Yes, also known as
(00:49):
Rainbow Dawn for those of you on Instagram looking for
healing and spiritual connection and always see it on your shirt.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Oh yeah, I was listening to one of your episodes.
It's about I guess gems and I think Ryan specifically
said that you know that it's a pseudoscience or that
it's a placebo effect about crystals. But I will say
I love my crystals and they have lots of good energy,
so I disagree with them.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh oh, let me be clear. I didn't actually take
an opinion. I was just stating what the like the
science behind it, so like for example today, like what
we're going to talk about today, Well I won't. I'll
get into it when I get into it. But basically,
while there's no science behind it, I don't know that
I agree. Yeah. So in other words, I would never
You wear those crystals and you feel that energy and
(01:37):
I'm here for it.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
It's interesting. I don't know that I felt personally thinks
from crystals, but I do have the couple of I
think the crystals or stones that you sent me actually
and I actually those are very weirdly comforting for me now,
but I think because they came from you. So we've
known each other, Elizabeth and I have known each other
for a long time. We traveled together. We did a
(02:00):
couple of really fabulous trips because you put together that
wonderful group of like queer influencers and we did some
really amazing trips together.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, great time. We also we went to Dave of
the Dead in Mexico. Yes, you should post some pictures
of your face all painted up. That was pandamic oh
that's going to go with this.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah. Yeah, on the we went with Alison, you know,
my sister. Where did you come up with the idea
for that group though? For that because you also do travel?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, so, I mean I started, I was in travel
for a really long time and really just wanted more representation.
All of the marketing for LGBTQ travelers was like circuit parties,
you know, it was white guys and speedos with you know,
fixed packs, and so the idea was to bring together
a group of all different people and and show that,
(02:47):
you know, it's not that gay travel is more than
just what the current marketing was showing.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I have a really good friends Ben Keith, who have
an outdoor like travel company, Slash get Out or sort
of company. He's probably gonna listen to this and be like, Ryan,
you really screwed that up. And I apologize Keith. But
it was under the same guys, by the way, which
is like the things that would bring our community head
they don't have to revolve around well bluntly sex and drugs.
(03:15):
It's actually more of what our community needs. So cheers
to you.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Absolutely, Yeah, I believe on that trip there was still
sex and drugs, but there was other well I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Like, I didn't say it was bad show.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I didn't say there were bad things. Just that's why
you brought in a square like me, who like a
wild night is a Gin and Tonic Like, no, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Michael was telling stories. Yeah, Michael was telling stories that
sounded I don't know. You're such an old soul. All
of your stories are very like an old British lady.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Basically, like, we had to have full representation, so we
did have, you know, some fun people, and then we
had me. And I'm just like, have you guys heard
of this great Debbie Randolds story?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
An old British lady is your spirit animal?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Probably? But yeah, so because back the speaking of spiritual stuff.
So that's the why I thought of you. Because so also,
if you're looking to take a trip Loveland and sea travel,
you're brilliant. You put together my family's trip this coming summer,
we're going to Alaska, and you did a great job
of wrangling my family. But what was your journey into
(04:21):
the world of spiritual things?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So it actually started with ghosts, So it's appropriate that
I'm on here. I went to This was a completely
random thing. I was driving back from Cleveland with a
good friend of mine, Tim, who you know also, and
we were passing the Mansfield exit and I said, that's
where the Shawshank prison in the is the Mansfield Reformatory.
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And I was like, let's just go because I've always
wanted to go. I heard it was really haunted. I
love Shawshank Redemption. That movie is like fantastic, and so
just on a whim, we pulled off the exit and
decided to go take a little tour and it was
just the two of us. They were almost closing for
the day. We didn't do a guided tour. It was
just us and that place is just incredible. I mean,
(05:09):
just walking into it, you just feel a shift. And
so we walked through, we did the whole thing. I
was standing in front of one of the cells and
I just started crying and I was like, I don't
know what, like, I just like felt this like really
heavy energy. And then later I went through and watched
all of the videos that we made and there were
answers to the questions that we were asking. We didn't
(05:30):
hear them while we were asking them, but the videos
had answers. So we were saying things and we were
there were voices answering this, and it just blew my
mind because I've been kind of skeptical most of my life.
When I was younger, I was probably really tuned in
and I think I shut it out, but that just
kind of blew my mind. And then I kept feeling
(05:52):
something around me. So I kept feeling this energy and
I thought, oh my gosh, I brought home an attachment
and I was like freaking out. So I went to
a side. I ended up going to four psych gicks
because I didn't leave the first one or the second
one or this. It took me forward to actually believe them.
And they all said that I had mediumship abilities and
that something was trying to get a message through and
(06:16):
that I should explore my gifts. And so I started
exploring them, and it turns out I'm pretty connected with
energy and kind of have a knack for healing, I guess,
or helping people heal themselves, which is really what healers do.
You know, we activate the body's own healing.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
That's incredible.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Well, because didn't you have like a spirit follow you home?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I thought I had a spirit follow me home, but
it turns out it was it was a childhood friend
of mine who died in a car accident, and that's
the energy that was with me. And as soon as
I gave the message that he was trying to get
to someone else, it was gone. It was like I
felt it away, and then I guess that's something kind
(07:02):
of opened up. And then I started having other random
dead people visit me, which was.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
A lot I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, yeah, my grandmother hung around for a while. Every
time someone on my dad's side of the family passed away,
like a week before my grave, I could feel my
grandmother there. So it was almost like she was there
saying she's ready to receive you know that other person.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So a majority of your other experiences, have they revolved
around family or do you do you feel like at
any point you've like in other words, the way I
perceived this is like your energy is out there, their
energy is out there. There's some sort of crossing of
paths at some point, and the spirit of this is like, hey,
wait a second, I just saw you hold on. Maybe
(07:48):
you can help me.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, So it's it's family, but also other people. So
my understanding is, you know people that are in your family,
you're connected with on a deep level, even if you
didn't know them. So like we have ancestors that were
connected to even if we never knew them in our lifetimes.
So they're always kind of watching over us, and they're
always kind of around and they will help us and
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kind of guide us sometimes. But then when you are
tuned in and you're open to receiving messages from the
other side, it can be really random. It can be
anyone that wants to try to get a message through.
Most of the time it's people that have unresolved business
that they feel, I guess, feel that they need to
(08:33):
have some help with. I have not enjoyed doing the
mediumship part of it. My mentor did have me go
through a lot of mediumship exercises because it really helps
with tapping in and your intuition and everything, but I
really was more interested in the energy healing part of
all of this. So it's funny because you have to
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set boundaries even with the other side, so you have
to kind of At first, I was like, I felt
like I had to give these messages to people, or
I had to talk to them, I had to help them.
But I've learned that you set boundaries, just like with
living people. You have to say, like I'm going to bed,
don't like wake me up with random messages right now.
I'm not interested right right at the moment.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
So I learned to set boundaries and maybe that's my
that was my life lesson with all of this is, well,
if you can't set boundaries with you with live you know,
live people were going to do it with deceased people.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Wow. I don't know why. I imagine that, like deceased
people are pushier.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
You can tell sometimes that people who were had really
strong personalities when they were alive they still have those.
So there are some like, you know, strong willed grandmothers
and such.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I believe that, yeah, was your grandmother's strong world.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yes, but but she has a very specific energy that
is it's just like I'm being wrapped in a blanket,
like she was just warmth and love and everything. But
there are some other people in my face family that
were a little bit I don't know, pushy.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Maybe I love looking for the correct word because it's like,
are they listening now?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I mean they're probably, yeah, they're probably here right now.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I'm just looking. You have a shelf of beautiful bulls
behind you because you do a lot of sound healing
and like for those who don't know, and I'm waiting
for something to like knock over one piss off relatively
to be like, yeah, I'm not pushy.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I love that it persists. There's souls that you love
and then there's souls that you tolerate.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's been. It's been quite a journey
for sure, But I'm really tapping into different energies now
with the healing. It's it's actually and I'm not going
to get too woo woo on you, but a lot
of the healing is done with the assistance of more
angelic energies and that's like a completely different vibration. So
(10:48):
when loved ones past, you know, it is like a
high vibration, but when I'm tapping into healing energies, that's
like an even higher vibration. So it's really important to
tap into highest level that I possibly can to bring
in that healing energy for people. And then you have
earthbound spirits, which are not loved ones that pass through
people that are kind of stuck, and those are lower
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vibrational things, and those are the ones that you find
like at the prisons, that are haunted in other places
and totally different denser energy feeling.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
We've actually done. We did a healing I don't know,
not exercise, but like you did a session with me
over the phone too, But I there was when we
were working through as it was the chakras right in colors,
and there was one spot where Elizabeth moved to and
I just started to cry, like I was just laying
on my own on the floor and I don't know
what happened. It was just like all of a sudden,
(11:40):
something just unlocked out of nowhere and it's where not
like tears just started rolling down my face. It was
one of It was such a moving, one of those
experiences that I will never forget.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
And very not only intrigued but aligned to the idea
of personal energy and how it works. Like I love
of massage and massage therapy and I know what sort
of massage I'm getting by the time the person walks
in the room, because I can feel their energy and
I can usually ask. I'll be like, do you do
(12:12):
any sort of energy work? And I always know and
they'll be like, oh, yeah, I absolutely do, and I
can tell. And then there's other ones where I'm like
you don't do energy work, do you, And they'll be like,
oh no, that's not for me. It's just too much.
And I'm like, okay, no, can I get that? So yeah,
I would agree that there's a feeling that comes with
certain things that sometimes pulls back the covers, if you will.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah. Yeah, And some people are more sensitive to it
than others. I think right now we're just at a
point where a lot of people are becoming more aware
and more sensitive or opening up to it. It's almost
like there's something called the dark Knight of the soul
that people go through, which is usually kind of like
a rock bottom situation that begins the transformation process when
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you're trying to ascend or trying to net with your
higher self. And I feel it collectively with the state
of our world right now, we're in a dark night
of the soul as as a country, as a planet,
and so more and more people are turning inward because
you know, we can't control so many of these external things,
and so we are kind of collectively waking up a
(13:19):
little bit, which is kind of the silver lining of
all of the horrific things happening right now. It's the
way that I can feel like at least some people
are finally like turning inward and realizing that everything like
lies within.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
All right, well, should we should we jump into our
little presentation portion of the show.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I'm ready for it? Great, Yeah, I think Ryan should
go first. Okay, he has to redeem himself for a
crystal comment. I'm totally petting. I'm totally kidding.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Okay, all right, Ryan, are you ready? I am okay,
and go.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You know what's funny is I actually had a little
bit of a story that I told when the topic
came up in the end of last week's podcast. But
if I get to that, I'll share it. But I
had kind of a recent experience that I thought was interesting,
So I first kind of did a little bit of
research to figure out because I was like, is there
any sort of peer reviewed science as it relates to ghosts?
(14:30):
And the answer is no. In reality, there's no peer
review to greed science around the existence of ghost and
a majority of the research is around parapsychology, cognitive psychology, neuroscience,
and environmental psychology, which tends to fall into the areas
of like why we believe the role of external stimulation,
(14:52):
particularly like infrasounds, EMF, electromagnetic fields, sleep paralysis, and paradalia,
which has come up in the podcast, which is where
we associate we give human characteristics to things that are
not human. I will say that parapsychology is kind of
like the controversial middle ground around gross research, but typically
picks up criticisms around methodology, confirmation bias, and a failure
(15:17):
to repeat. Now it's funny I read the failure to
repeat part and I'm like, obviously, if we're dealing with
something that has has its own life principle or has
its own existence principle, I could understand why repeatability would
be a problem. Just my own sort of two cents.
But this again, let's be uned into a topic that
(15:38):
I've kind of already talked about before. But I'm going
to run with it on a different spin because I
actually operate not from a place of disbelief on most things.
I operate from a place of there is so much
we do not know or understand about the world and
the universe around us, period, And like it's one of
(15:58):
these things where it's so hard for us to understand
a new concept, but then down the road we start
to realize just how easy it was to understand because
it always existed around us. So I think there's a
lot of this in the world. So I actually genuinely well,
I don't know that I believe, but I have a
(16:18):
feeling towards the idea that a lot of ghostly interactions
actually revolve around quantum science and quantum behaviors. And there
is a fair amount of research going on right now
that consciousness is a quantum concept. And there are two
scientists that are pretty heavy it, Roger Penrose and Stuart
(16:38):
Hammerhoff or hanner Hoff. My writing is terrible there, but
it's Stuart's hammer is off. I'm sure somebody's going to
take that name down. But it's referred to as orchestrated
objective reduction. So, in other words, the mind isn't operating
from classical computation. It results from quantum level coherence and
(16:58):
microtubules in the brain that allows for non local connections
or quantum entanglements to happen across the brain. And a
lot of people say that the brain is way too warm, wet,
and noisy. But the bottom line is, as I've talked
about before, we've seen quantum operating principles and other biological beings,
so photosynthesis and bird's ability to navigate by seeing or
(17:20):
knowing or being aware of the magnetic fields of the earth.
So okay, so let's say here and again, this is
all theory obviously that consciousness itself is quantum. If it's true,
it would mean that consciousness can decohere from the body
right and reconfigure itself within space time. So this would
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explain why we have shared death experiences, why everyone has
a very common death experience. They see the light, they
travel to it, or they see beings of light, the
reflection of the reflection of life. This is why we
would have visitations. And I'll talk about that a bit
more in a second. And then how people know things
that they sho didn't know, or become aware of things
(18:02):
that they shouldn't know existed, or have information prior to
it actually happening. So ghosts could be quantum echoes. And
what that would mean is that a ghost sighting er
is essentially an interference pattern of quantum information that momentarily
collides with us. So it would be an intersection of
our reality with their reality. So it was the idea
(18:26):
that consciousness is quantum kind of lends to the idea
that ghosts themselves are actually like our memories and stuff
are actually stored kept external to our bodies, which I
think is in principle incredible. But there is no I
want to again say, there's no science behind this. I mean,
(18:47):
they're starting to become science behind it, like we're just
now starting to get into the quantum sciences. But you know,
it's funny when I read about you know, consciousness being quantum,
the first thing that my mind went to is this
starts to create an interesting place to start to explain
the reality of apparitions and ghosts and seeing the future
(19:10):
and seeing other realities or you know, knowing information that
you maybe shouldn't know.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So the there are some new studies they're doing about
quantum entanglement, which is fascinating. I mean, there, I think
one of the things. So when I'm doing healing, I'm
tapping into the quantum field. So the way I was
able to do that session with Michael remotely was I
was tapping into the quantum field, which there's no there's
(19:39):
no distance, there's no time and space in that. It's
so you know, I'm not I'm not super into science,
and but I am a very logical person, so that's
why this whole thing has been, you know, kind of
difficult for me to begin with. So any type of
information that I can latch onto that makes sense to
(20:00):
me kind of like eases it. It kind of gets
my logical brain and alignment with the spiritual side, and
that's really helpful. And it is tapping into that quantum field.
And people who are sensitive to energies. When I'm doing
energy work remotely, they can feel it. So I will
be sending energy through the quantum field to someone and
(20:21):
they'll say, I feel that in my foot, and to me,
that's proof enough. I mean, it's not even a placebo
effect because they don't know where I'm sending it. It's
like they tell me, and it's validation. So I absolutely
believe that the more research that's done, it's going to
be one of those things where anything that used to
be impossible that we're doing now, like it's just a
(20:43):
time thing where we just haven't gotten to the point
where we can explain it yet, right which just like
if you took cell phone back, you know, back to
the early days that it would make no sense or
Wi fi, you know, Wi Fi is like this invisible
thing that's connecting people, and everybody's okay that, but they're
not necessarily okay with the idea that energies er are,
(21:04):
you know, flowing around us too?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah. I mean you think about even just like the
idea of a microprocessor, which is really just an on
off switch, and now suddenly we have these things that
have trillions of on off switches inside of them, all
operating at once in unison. Right, Nobody at a certain
time could have ever imagined conceptually anything like that being
persistent or existing. I think this is exactly and I
(21:30):
said this in the photosynthesis thing. I think once we
once we actually understand how this works, I think we're
going to be shocked to find out how many other
things operate within these principles, and we start to actually
have a better understanding of what we are relative to
what we're surrounded with. You know, It's like I said again,
that whole idea is kind of how I operate in life.
(21:52):
Like I don't necessarily disbelieve in anything. I'm open to
understanding more and saying like I get it, it's kind
of logically doesn't make sense, But at the same time,
I just know there's a lot I don't know, but yeah, Michael,
what's my time?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Oh, you have one minute in eight seconds.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
So I was in I was in Toronto and stayed
at the King Eddie, the King Edward Hotel, which is
like an omni hotel. I go there for business and
I had gotten my room and there's these really long,
vast corridors through that hotel. It's pretty old and it's
actually known to be haunted. And I got to the
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long corridor. My room was all the way at the
far end of a corridor and it was kind of
like a t intersection. So I came around from the
right hand side. And as I came around from the
right hand side to then make a left and go
down this long corridor, out of the side of my eye,
I saw a very large human but looked like they
had on a trench coat, kind of come the same
direction and then come down behind me. And as I'm
(22:53):
proceeding down that hallway, this person is I perceived it
was almost like it was heavy steps, and they kept
getting closer and closer and closer to me, to the
point that it actually started to make me feel uncomfortable,
like it was one of those things where I'm like,
I'm like, I don't like how you're aggressing me, and I,
(23:15):
for whatever reason, chose not to look back. I chose
not to engage, but got to my door, swiped, went in,
shut the door and shut it and then turn around
and stood for a second. And the person went into
the door right next to mine. But the very key thing,
literally key thing that I remember is I heard the key,
(23:37):
jangle of keys. I heard a key going to a slot,
unlock the door, doorlatch open, person go in, shut door,
slammed door right and I was like, Okay, well that
was weird. And I'm and in my mind, I'm going like,
I wonder what that room is. I wonder if it's
like a like a like a closet with hotel crap
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or what was going on. So I get changed and
I go out to go to dinner, and I'm just
going to the bar downstairs, and I look and the
door next to mine is just another hotel door. It
has no key hole, it has no place to place
a key, and it's just another room. So I immediately
(24:21):
go I'm like, well a whole bunch of this don't
add up. And I went down to the bar. I
got my dinner and I'm talking to the bar guy
and I was like, hey. I was like, I had
the weirdest thing happened. Let me tell you. And I
start to tell him about it, and he's like, I'm
gonna do with the hotel manager. I want you to
tell the hotel manager. And I'm like okay. So I
reyals to the hotel manager and they're like, maybe it
(24:42):
was Bob. And I was like, well, how big is
Bob and they're like, Bob's like five to four and
I was like, no, this individual was as tall as me,
if not taller, and big, like this was a big human,
if human, and they're like, but we don't have anyone
on staff that looks like that. And I'm like, I
don't have to tell you. And that was that was
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kind of that I kind of believe it was something.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
So, yeah, that's really cool. I think a lot of
you know, there's there's a lot of theories on different
types of ghosts, and one of one of them is
just like an imprint and energetic imprint, which is kind
of like things that happen in places with a lot
of like trauma or or there was like some kind
(25:27):
of you know, incident and they play on a loop.
So like that's when you tend to hear noises like
keys rattling, or people that just walk up and down
a hallway. They don't engage with anyone. It's just almost
like watching a movie of this energy that's like stuck
in a loop. Those are really fascinating, But like those
noises like that don't make sense for the current time.
(25:48):
I think those happen quite often in places that are older,
or there's like cannons that you can hear in certain
battlefields that just happen randomly.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I love a good ghost story. Nice, well your time.
It was dinged a little while ago. I was just
letting the story go.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Well, thank you. Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I am Elizabeth?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I'm ready? All right, I'm waity for whatever accent is
about to come out of Michael's Mount.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I don't know that their accents this time, but you
never know, truly. I surprise myself half the time. All right, Ready,
set go mine. I just I love this topic my
whole life. I've been fascinated by ghost stories and the
universe and things like this. It's funny. My mom just
visited and she actually was saying. She was like, I
think I told her what this episode was going to
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be about, and she was like, oh, our house is haunted.
And I was like, what the house that I grew
up in and she was like, oh, yes, Michael, you
don't know. And I was like, I don't know. We
live in a grew up in a really old house.
And she was like yeah. She was like, especially now
since I retired and I'm home more, she was like,
I just hear things. And she was like, that's sometimes,
(27:07):
like in the middle of the night, she just hears things.
And she's like, now that you're not there, your sister's
not there, we don't have a big dog anymore, your
father's asleep. She was like, I just hear footsteps or
things like that. Are things being moved? And I was like,
is it scary? She was like, no, it's not scary
at all. It's fine. It's just like somebody else is there.
She's like, I'm not scared of it. It's just like, well,
(27:27):
someone else is in the house now. And I'm like mom,
and she's like, but not like in it's like a ghost.
And it was just funny how like matter of fact
she was about it, which I kind of loved. I
was like, oh, whoa, So maybe I don't know. Maybe
when I was a kid, I like there were dreams
of something, you know, that there was more there than
I thought. But I've always loved this stuff. So I've
(27:47):
just had a couple of instances in my life that
sort of helped confirm that. I was like, oh, no,
there are things beyond the first one was when I
was studying abroad and a friend and I went to
Edinburgh for a weekend and I wanted to do like
scary you know, because Edinburgh famously is a very haunted place,
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and they have this catacombs tour and she didn't want
to go on it. She was like, it'll scare me.
I was like, I want to do this. So I
did this like midnight tour of the Catacombs, and of
course they make it very theatrical. You know, go in
through like a house where they like knocked a hole
in a wall and then found this entrance and you
go down and there's all these rooms. It's this massive
(28:30):
underground space. They had like one room like Wickens had
sort of taken over. They do ceremonies down there, and
of course our tour guides, like you know, in a
top hat and telling us spooky stories. But we go
into this one room and he was like, so, one
thing that happened down here is when there was this
great fire a couple hundred years ago, everyone went down
into the catacombs because at that time they were just
(28:50):
like storage areas to flee the fire because the whole
town was on fire, and hundreds of people ended up
dying because it got so hot. They ended up quite
literally just like baking down there. This sort of like
horrific story. And he was like, well, there's this one
room that a lot of people have come. They always
feel different kinds of energy, but there's this one room
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specifically where there's a lot. So he was like, we're
going to go in, and he was like, and I'm
going to put out the candle and we're just going
to be here in the dark. And there's this one
family that came in and I saw them actually they
weren't plants because I saw them, like they walked in
at the same time as me. There were another like
they were American tourists and you know, going on his
a husband, wife and a couple of kids, and the
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husband specifically too, was like, well, you know, like this
little bit, so the guy blows out the candle where
I was standing around, and he didn't tell us specifically
what happens to people in there, but he was like
this is just a very active room, and you just
I wasn't actually going to talk about this until you
said the loop, and then I was like I remember this.
The dad, the American dad starts freaking out after a
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couple of minutes because he was like that, who's and
everyone's like what and he like literally starts freaking out,
and so the guy, the guy puts the light back on.
He was like sorry, okay, what happened, and he was
like a cold, small hand grabbed my hand. But there
was nobody there, like there was no other way to
get in, No one heard anyone come in. And he
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was like, that's interesting. There's a story about like a
little girl who's looking for her father, Like it must
have been that, like she was looking for her father.
And he was like his kids were across the room
from him, because at first he was like you know,
he's like I don't know, maybe they felt but yeah,
he said it was too small to be one of
his kids, and he said it was cold anyway. He
was like very freaked out, which was kind of I
was like, oh my god, this guy like a spirit
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of like a little girl's looking for her dad. Found
the dad. But my personal one was the first time
I met with a woman I guess like a medium
sheet a very good friend of mine who's very she's
this Italian casting director in La who's a very like skeptical.
She's like I am pragmatic. But she met with this
(31:02):
woman because a friend of hers was like, you have
to meet her, and then she had this amazing experience
and so she's like, my, I have to try it.
So it's one of those like she had a phone number,
so I called her and she's like, I'm gonna meet
with you tomorrow. So but tonight, I want you to
write out ten questions that you have in life and
just don't tell me, don't tell anybody. Just the night before,
write the ten questions out and sit sort of meditate
(31:23):
with them. So I was like, okay, so I write
ten questions I saw I like meditated with them. And
this is when I was like, I don't know that
I believe in a lot of this stuff. So she calls,
we talk. Over the course of the conversation, she answers
all ten questions in order. But then the thing that
really got me was she was like, there are people
here who want to talk to you. And I was
(31:47):
like what. She was like, are you open to receiving this?
And I was like, I mean, okay, I was like nineteen.
I was like, right on our sure. And when she
was like, your grandmother is here, your mother's mother, and
I was like, oh, okay, And she was like, she's
really concerned about her health, her breathing, specifically because of
the air quality in your house, so that needs to
be addressed because she's actually she's really worried about your mom.
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She's been trying to sort of get to her and
she can't. The other thing is tell your father to
check the kitchen, specifically to check the fawcet because it's
going to break and your mom's gonna be really upset.
And she's already kind of on her last nerve with
home repair stuff, so she just doesn't need that in
her life right now. She's a lot of other stressors
and this is something she really doesn't need on her
(32:29):
plate right now. And I was like, okay, and she
was like, and she wants you to eat more broccoli.
And I was like okay, and she was like, and
your uncle is here. It turned out as my uncle
who's killed at nine to eleven. She was like, he's here.
My great aunt from my father's side, Olga, she was there,
and she had very specific things that only they would
know to say, and I just remember being like WHOA.
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So then I called my mom and I was like, Mom,
apparently Grandma says you have to, you know, be careful
of the air and also tell Dad to check the fawcet.
And she was like okay. But it turned out that
our chimney was leaking into her closet and she's really
bad asthmaen and she's allergic to wood smoke, and so
whenever they were putting a fire in the fireplace, smoke
was getting into her room and it was affecting her breathing.
(33:15):
So they had to have that recealed. And then not
a week later, my dad, who did not address the faucet,
was trying to fix something else and the pipe burst
in our kitchen and flooded our kitchen. And need this
to say, my mom was livid because she wanted to
hire a plumber and my dad wouldn't. He thought he
could do it himself. So it was just one of
those when those happened, I was like, WHOA, Okay, so
(33:37):
it's incredible. So not like everything everything she said came
true and this woman was she was so just like
casual about it, and it was just it was weirdly
like really reassuring to know that, like these people are
still with us and still looking out for us and
somehow had some sort of foresight that we didn't have.
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It was it was really really and ever since then,
I don't know, I've been more connected to things in general.
Like I wear a ring that my mom gave me
that is my uncle's badge after he was killed in
nine to eleven and his men had these rings made
and it's very like just sort of special to me.
When I'm stressed, I touch it, Like Elizabeth, the stones
(34:20):
that you gave me because of ever since our session
that had such an impact on me, and I'll find
them like they just sort of flowed around my life
and they will just sort of appear in really specific moments,
like I'll put a hand in a pocket and they're
just in that coat pocket weirdly on a morning when
I needed it, and I don't even know how they
ended up in that pocket. It's interesting and so I
(34:44):
don't know. I just love this. And now I it's
not that I look for signs or look for connections,
but they just sort of see I think I'm just
more aware. And recently I went to a tarot card
reader and she again was so casually, again on a
folding chair in the hallway of her building, which feels
so correct. And I went as a buddy of mine
who I never thought would be into this stuff, he
(35:06):
was like, yeah, you should go. She's predicted almost everything
in my life. Went to her and it was again
she was so like she's just flipping cards and she's like,
yeah this, yeah, that, ugh, why are you doing this?
Don't do that, and was so just kind of correct
about everything, and even similar to you. She was like,
you're not grounded. You really need to work on your grounding.
(35:26):
Your two up in the air and it's affecting. We
need to do more like grounding exercises with you, which
was just fascinating that beyond the people that are like
out there looking out for us, that we are I'm
just this is where I'm so fascinating. I think you
obviously learned so much more, but this how everything is
so interconnected between us to the Earth, to energy, to
(35:47):
the universe, to people beyond us trying to connect to us.
Like Ryan, what you're saying with the quantum world, You're right,
but maybe this all is like Wi fi and once
we get there it all will make sense. But now
it's just sort of this sort of amazing, sort of
concept world that I don't understand, but when you tap
into it, it's really exciting. So yeah, anyway, that was mine.
(36:09):
I was like, I just I love this stuff. So
here are a couple of my personal stories.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
I think that's super fun. And I love how casual
your mom was about the house being haunted, especially considering
I mean, I'm guessing with her career, like she's she's
been a pretty logical person maybe, so I love that
she was just like, yeah, the house is haunted.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Oh my mom. I mean, she's a clinical psychologist, but
she fully believes in ghosts. She always has. We've that's
why she loves funerals weirdly and she collects funeral cards.
But yeah, she's been at funerals and she's just like
she loves this stuff. She always has because I think
she's one too where she's had instances where she feels
(36:51):
like people have come to her and she's like, I
don't know if it's because I'm a psychologist. So what
I do for a living in with living people is
that they come and they tell me their problem. That
sometimes like people beyond have come and told me their
problems or they think I can fix their problems. Because
she's so just sort of open. So we even we
were at my uncle's funeral and something happened and she
(37:11):
was like, Billy's here and I was like what, and
she was like, he just did because he thought it
would be funny, Like he like knocked somebody into a
candle and like this big candle so they got wax
all over them, and she was like, that's a Billy move.
She was like, you know that he wants to like
because this it was too serious. And she was like,
you know that he wanted to do something goofy because
the tone of the funeral is way too serious for him.
(37:33):
And it was somebody who she knew would get would
find something like that funny, like something they would do,
would be like prank each other, and she was like,
he just prank Jean.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
There's so much that we don't know about the brain
to begin with, and.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah, because we only tap into she and she actually
it's funny she said that because she's very, very into brain.
She's read so many books on the brain, and she
was like, there's too much of the brain we don't understand.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, there's so much and this this is a little
bit off topic, but have you heard of the Telepathy Tapes. No,
it's a podcast that like apparently got super popular recently,
but it's about nonverbal autistic kids.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yes, I know, I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Apparently all are telepathic, and it's like there's this rate
they're trying to do research on it now. But it's
it's almost like whatever neurow divergency in their brain that
causes the autism has also unlocked some other you know,
this this other ability or whatever we have that prevents
(38:34):
us from from tapping in Like they're able to tap
into it. So that's just like fascinating.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
With their parents specifically, I believe, or.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Sometimes caregivers I think too.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, it's a relationship driven sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Yeah interesting, yeah, yeah, but really fascinating. So yeah, there's
so much we don't know. I think that's the the
more I learned, the more I realize that I know nothing.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yes, even with animals too. So the friend that I
was saying, who recommended the person that I speak to,
who again is very tounch her thing, her grandmother came
to her with that same thing, but her dog, which
I think is fascinating because she had a dog that
was a little white Schnauzer who was her life. Like
this dog was her ride or die and he died
(39:22):
very suddenly, like very quickly in short and she was
devastated because he, you know, he was her child, and
very suddenly. And then one day she was really sad
and out of the blue, she just got another dog.
She got a puppy, and she immediately regretted it because
puppies are puppies, right, and he was a really easy one.
(39:45):
And she said there was a day she was like
sitting on her kitchen floor just crying, being like what
have I done? And then she ended up talking to
this woman and she was like, yeah, there's there's someone here,
but it's not I can't quite tap into who it is,
and she was like, it's not a person. This is
really happened before with me, but I just see it's
it's white. It's this energy that's white and small. It's
(40:06):
sort of like a cloud, but it's it's it's very soft.
But he says that he loves his new brother and
that he's glad that you have him because he was
worried about you being alone and that he's glad that
you have someone and that it's gonna be okay, and
that you know, basically, he reassured her that she did
(40:27):
the right thing and that he loves the new brother
because she also felt so guilty. She's like, I feel
like I'm replacing him, and and he basically gave her
like the big thumbs up, and she's like, oh my god,
that's him. And she was like small, white, fluffy, like
that's my dog. And she's like, oh, I've never had
a dog do that, but cool, and yeah, she was
(40:47):
like and ever since and she, you know, she's like, Okay,
now I feel better about this. He likes his new brother.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I would never believe anyone that says like dogs don't
have a soul or don't have right they are are
so special and they're and so unique. They all have
different personalities, Like there's no way that that they don't
connect with us on a deeper spiritual level. I fully
believe that they do. And I had a similar experience
(41:13):
with my with my dog, my dog Magic that I
got about a year ago. I actually had a dream
after I got her. I have a lot of stuff
that happens in my dreams, and I had a dream
my my previous two dogs that you know died a
while back. They were in the dream playing with Magic,
(41:35):
my new dog, and they were they were accepting her
into the into the family, and it was just so beautiful.
And I hadn't dreamt about those dogs in forever, but
it was like it was like this like reassurance, like
you know, she's part of part of the pack, She's
part of the family.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Aw right. Maybe Tilly will come visit you after, I hope.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
So he's a.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Little friend the calmer state. Yeah, he'll be a little
more chilled out, and then next in the next quantum world.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
He's a good boy, but he is wound up to
I just think he still kind of got puppy energy.
At the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
All right, Beth Eliabeth, I'm so sorry you have to
choose a winner, whatever that means to you.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Okay, Well, Michael, you know I love you.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Uh huh, I lost, didn't I?
Speaker 3 (42:21):
When Ryan mentioned quantum entanglement, it just like I was like,
all right, that that's it for me. Oh but I
loved your stories.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
They're good, very good stories.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Thank you. I just wanted to tell stories. Yeah, right,
that is very cool.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Though.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
I was going to say, what did the quantum? What
did you feel from the quantum realm on it? Did? Did?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Was there a feeling from from the energy around the winner?
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Did? Did? Did the energy? Maybe pick Michael?
Speaker 3 (42:46):
You know, I think my own Michael. I think that
you actually do have like some energy with you right now.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
We really mm hm oh that's cool. I mean I
am an in my apartment, which is like a hundred
year old building.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
So I don't think it's a ghost because there's I
define a ghosts like an earthbound spirit, and then a
spirit is like someone who has crossed over that comes
back to visit like a loved one. So it's not
I'm not seeing like a ghost. I think it's a
loved one.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Oh Hi, I do that for joining me.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Well, I will talk like if I sent something, I
will talk just like it's a regular person, Like I'm
one of those crazy people.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
You'll see me like at the park talking to myself.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Hey, I love that. I talk to myself all the time.
And I don't even have like a spirit there to
be like I've talked to it. It's literally just me
and my my all the voices in my own head.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
I think when you start when you start talking about
family members, because you did bring up some family members,
but that that's kind of like you're you're inviting them
to the conversation. And anytime you go to like a
tarot reading or medium or psychic or any of that,
before you go put it out there, like tell your
family members that you want them to come through, ask
(44:07):
them to come be with you, ask your spirit guides
to come to that session to get the most out
of it. That's something I think a lot of people
don't do, and they just get there and they don't
know what to do. And you can prepare for it though,
to make it a more meaningful session. For sure.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
If people do want to reach out to you, where
what's the best place to reach out to you.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Probably Instagram, so it's Rainbow DN twenty to eleven. There's
an underscore. I need to change it. I hate the
underscore thing on Instagram. But or just rainbow rainbowdon dot love.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
All right, now, what is our topic for next week?
Speaker 3 (44:43):
So you know what's funny is I actually had had
the thought yesterday about the word or the phrase. I
don't know if it could be a phraser word, but
it was going to be quantum entanglement, which is hilarious.
That's one of the reasons for Ian won today. But
now the word is is Cundalini.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Coundalini. I don't know what that is perfect I oh,
I'm not even gonna look up right now. I'm excited. Coundalini.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Get to learn?
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Okay, great, all right, well, thank you so so much
for joining us.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
With real pleasure to meet you, and thank you.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
And thank you to whoever's here with me. Thank you
for joining our bonus guest.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Yes, yes, all.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Right, and join us next week for Coundalini. We're all
going to learn with that, all right, Bye bye,
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