Are We Truly Prepared For A Hurricane?

Hy and Christopher both sigh in relief on behalf of the City of New Orleans that Hurricane Francine was not worse. That does not mean that the thousands of homeowners without power or damaged by flooding do not deserve our help and prayers. However, this city could have had a much worse hurricane event, and that’s the subject of today’s show.  We are not prepared.

Hy and Christopher point out that since Hurricane Katrina, Louisiana's levees have deteriorated. More importantly, there has been no move to put a floodgate at the Chef Pass and the Rigolets.  In other words, no barrier exists to stop storm surge from flowing into Lake Pontchartrain.  It is long past time for our politicians to examine this problem.

We both acknowledge that the ABC Presidential Debate may actually change fewer opinions than most pundits believe, but Christopher notes that Taylor Swift’s endorsement could. Even if the pop singer does not get her legions of fans to register to vote, other votes could be changed thanks to a legion of concerned women in Louisiana writing postcards to mothers in Pennsylvania, urging them to vote for Kamala Harris.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Battles, the politicians, the press, the digitatas and magicians first
to see the money they didn't, don't there's nothing to
fill the holes? Well, then are feeling their pockets that holes,
the politicians mounting down the road. Every battle's for no moment.

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Corruption and its function it's gone on a date. Divide
is a vention.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
We dodged yet another big one in Hurricane fran scene,
but the fundamental problems of flooding still visited themselves upon
the greater New Orleans area. What if, however, this had
been a Category five hurricane coming from the other direction,
we would be swimming right now and not in a
good way. Is it finally time to look at some
major major changes of a thousand year protection and the

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aftermath of the presidential debate? People will still be debating it.
But could an effort here in Louisiana actually have more
impact on Harris defeating Trump than anything Trump or Harris
did in this debate? And will Hispanics be the difference
for Trump whether the debate occurred or not? And there's
not going to be another debate. We learned this week
all this and more in this edition of The Founder's Show.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
And God bless all out there you are now listening
to the founder. So the voice of the founding fathers,
your founding fathers coming to you deep within the bowels
of those mystic and cryptic alligator swamps of the Big Easy,
that old Crescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana, and way high

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in Spanish moss, and way out on the Eagles branch
is none other. Then you're s Bengeary Baybay, the Republic
Chaplain Hi McHenry.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
With Christopher Tiedmorey, roving reporter, resident radical moderate and associated
the Louisiana Weekly newspaper, Louisiana Weekly dot Net. And fortunately
many New Orleans did not have to be high on
that egles on that cypress tree. They got a little flooding,
but it could have been a lot worse. We were
really lucky or blessed, depending on how you look at
with Hurricane Franccene.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
That's right. She came in like a roaring tiger, but
left like a little pussycat meowing. We were blessed, folks.
God spared us because this sing could have been a
tough one on us.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I mean cats running. Where were the Haitians anyway, The
fact of the matter is, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Christopher, it literally drew a bunch of Haitians down here
when they heard the meaw from my little pussy cat
at Francine.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
We'll talk, we'll talk about the wild geese in this
case literal of the flight of the wild geese. But
the fact of the matter is one of the things
we learned from Hurricane Francceine is where we've had some
preparations and where we weren't. Let's also be very blunt.
If you lived in Homa or some of the Agent
Bayou parishes, you were hit pretty hard by this storm.

(03:03):
This was not a light storm for you. It could
have been worse, but it was a Category two storm
when it hit, and there's a substantial amount of damage.
It took well into Friday before any of our you know,
a lot of places had electricity. Some people know I
do some things with the New Orleans Opera. They couldn't
even have opera practice on Uptown New Orleans on Thursday
because Carrollton Avenue method Carrollton Avenue Methodist Church where they

(03:28):
do this, still didn't have power. And that's an uptown
New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
So we still have.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Some serious problems with the power grid in the greater
New Orleans area. We still have some pumping problems. How
much of that go ahead.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
In fact, there were over half the pumps san Waterboard pumps,
over half of them were malfunctioning. This was a real shaker.
And what was really alarming is that there was no
warning sent out. And so now they're they're pushing that
the Surgeon water Board will have some kind of you know,
anentergy sends noticees for everything. The Sergeant Waterboard should be

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doing the same thing so people can prepare better. If
they hear, oh, the pumps aren't working, they might change
their plans on where to put their cars and everything else.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
And I mean it's become to the point where no
one believes the pump, the Sgion Waterboard pumps will work.
And the fact of the matter is the Sojian waterboard
pumps have been rebuilt three or four times, and we
have pumps that were state of the art one hundred
years ago, but now they have electrical systems that don't
let up.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
That we need to look at it.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
But actually, what Hurricane Francine reminded me of was the
fact that how badly unprepared we are for a very
major hurricane. Now, think for a second if this had
been a Category three or four hurricane coming to us
from the direction of Florida, the Florida Keys, as opposed
to the direction of Mexico and coming at us towards

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the mouth of the Mississippi River, or more precisely like
Hurricane Katrina forcing storm surge into Lake pump Train. Now,
people will constantly tell you, you know you flooded in Hurricane Katrina,
and we always have to answer, no, the levees didn't fail.
It was the flood waters along the Seventeenth Street Canal

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London Avenue Canal. But the fact is, what we don't
often address is the water that got into Lake Pontchatrain
in the first place. One of the things that was
recommended after Hurricane Katrina was to build a floodgate system
at what's called the Wrigglies, the chef pass at the Riglies.
So for those that don't know, Lake Pontchatrain's not a lake,
and this is probably the worst kept secret for New Orleans,

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but a lot of people around the country don't get this.
Lake Poncha train. Let me say that again, is not
a lake. It's a brackish bay of the Gulf of
Mexico through Lake Saint Catharine and the Wriglies Pass. It's
basically a river that goes into the Gulf of Mexico.
So when a hurricane is coming, it's pushing four and
five foot rises in water into Lake ponta train. And

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even when we close the by Saint John and make
sure all the gates at the seventeenth Street Canal, London
Canal and all the canals are that surge into the
lake not only puts the south shore in danger, it
desperately puts the north shore in danger, and particularly Tangibra
Hoe because even though that's higher ground, you're having such
a surgeon water it can overcome. In order to protect

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the city, you have to put a floodgate system, one
that would open in we'd still be able to use
it for shipping channels, but one that would be able
to close. It's not a cheap proposition, folks, but even
with rising rising ocean levels and potential storm surge, it's
this thousand year of protection, while not cheap, would actually

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guarantee and protect the whole metro area from flooding probably
up to two consecutive Category five hurricanes, and yet nobody
is talking about it.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yea Christopher. By the way, there were over fifty breaches
in the levees or hurricane protection levees because they built
them out of gumbo mud. If you look the technology,
know the geological from the core engineers, it's called pete pete, folks,
imagine how well that's going to hold anything back. That's
why we had fifty breeches from a slowly rising title

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surge that was only up for about a day or
two and then went back down. Well, how could they
build levees on the Mississippi River one hundred and fifty
two hundred years ago that handled the fiercest currents in
the world that are up for several months before they
go back down. How come those levees always hold every year,
But we can't surround the city for a slowly rising

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title surge that's only up for a day or two.
Why can't we do it? I'll tell you why. The
politician stole all the money out of those levees and
gave us gumbo mud. We got cheap levees. That's why
we had over fifty breaches. In fact, there were even
wormholes all in many of the breaches. That means the
water pressure at the bottom, because that's where the highest
pressure is. It'll pushed its way through under the levees

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and then and then came up on the other side,
creating what they call wormholes. Folks. This is inexcusable, and
there's no reason we can't put it's about two water gates.
That's all we need for the two regulars passes. And
I was there as a kid for many times. I
know the area very very well. We had a camp,
My father had a camp down there, Rabbit Island Club,

(08:21):
and so I know they are very very well. Those watergates,
you know, christ was saying, and they're going to cost
some money, but you know, rebuilding the city is a
whole lot more expensive. Yeah, a thousand times more expensive.
And the fact that we have to face this periodically.
I think we've had a hurricane every three years since Katrina.
So this is very serious, folks, And there's there's inexcusable

(08:45):
that our politicians are sitting on this, are getting real
dumb on it. For whatever reason. We need to wake
them up. You need to call them. You need to
start demanding that we spent all this money redoing the levers,
and this time they did them right. The reason I
know when goods Off came, I was on the on
the I was with a National Guard and I was
in charge of all traffic, so I was in the

(09:06):
headquarters watching all the activity in South Louisiana about what
was going on with Gustav. And I watched those the
water rise on those levees to the very top of them,
and not one of them broke. And the levees weren't
even completed at the time. They were still building them
when Gustav hit. Yet they held because this time they

(09:26):
built them out of clay, which is the way he's
supposed to build a levee. And and now that they're finished,
but they've spent a fortune on that. They couldn't spend
a little more money on these water gates just to
of them. They could have done that.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
It wouldn't be a little bit more money, but it
would be a lot cheaper, as you point out, than
rebuilding a city. And actually the irony is they've done
such a good job in some parts of the South
Shore that if we did have a huge source urge.
It's actually Mandeville and Tangibihoe that would get the worst
of this coverage. But I want to point something out
real quick before I handed out. One of the things

(09:57):
that happens with the clay levees that we're talking about
is clay is not like the sand and this and
this is what he was when when I was referring.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
To gumbo mud. It's gumbo mud. So what happens.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
What happens when you have a glass of water, and
let's say you start off, you put sugar in the
bottom of the water, and then you put water in it.
What happens to the sugar, Well, it dissolves. What happens
to sand when you have huge amounts of water, It
doesn't dissolve, but it dissipates in the water washes away.
There's something there's isn't that a pastor? Isn't there a
Bible verse about building a house and another.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
There is, Yes, Yeah, Jesus waters to build a house
on the rock, not on the sand. Yes, when the
storm comes it washes it all away. And that's what
we had.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
But even the clay levees that we've done. One of
the reasons why we had problems in a few places
in breakers is because here's what happens with clay levees.
Clay levees are great for about five years and then
they start getting lower because they sink because we're we're
a marsh. And so one of the reasons why the

(10:55):
Mississippi River levees hold is they're fundamentally kant reinforce concrete
and the grass you see is on top. So the
heaviest Mississippi levees are actually.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
But the concrete is only like it turns, not throughout
the whole system that would It's just like where you
have a week a possible weak point, they armor them,
and we could armor our levees also.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
And that's what I'm getting at that a lot of
these hurricane protection systems that armoring levees is essential to
have a longer life. And so let me explain why
we don't have this. It's not just corrupt politicians that
plays a role. It's actually more basic. This wouldn't be cheap.
Your property taxes would probably go up about eight hundred

(11:40):
dollars a year per person to be around the metro region,
and it would acquire a huge amount of political will
The difference is your house will be here in one
hundred years. So it's one of those questions. Oh, and
your insurance rates will go down by thirty to forty percent,
but that would have after two or three years after

(12:01):
the things are constructed. And so it's very rare that
a politician says I'll tax you and you will pay
less in the long term. That doesn't get you elected
to anything. And let me give you an example of this.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
That's why you've said political will will.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
There's a famous town on the Japanese shore, and the
mayor of this town insisted used all of his political
capital and and taxed his people to build these twenty
foot floodgates and reinforced concrete levees along the edge of
the town. And everyone laughed at him because every other

(12:37):
town just has well you basically have in Mandeville, where
you got the kind of a sea wall and it's up,
and that's always had been enough. And then of course
they had the tsunami about ten years ago. The mayor
had passed away. He was an object of ridicule. He
was a punchline. People would make fun about it. They
call the floodwalls his policy. Every other one of those

(12:58):
coastal cities were washed away except his town, which is
still there, and no loss of life and no loss
of houses. And it gives you an idea. He was
his political career ended because he did this, but those
people are still there when others aren't, and it's a
good lesson for us.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
It's a very brave man. Reminds me of Donald Trump,
who did things like that, by the way, against who
had to have the political will to do the amazing
things he did. Anyway, But just to give you a
little better understanding, when we have a title searche coming
from the east, the southeast, let's say the hurricanes coming
it raises that's your You're going to be your highest

(13:37):
title search for the whole hurricane, the north eastern quads
of the most dangered part of a hurricane. Also for tornadoes.
But if we're talking about water now, that means it's
coming in through the rigoles that on just south of
Slide l that area. You know the five mile bridge
in that area. And so you have a title search
coming in from Lake Bourne and directly open to the Gulf.

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There's like break between Lake Born and the Gulf. So
you have this huge tidle search coming in and it
enters the lake and then it fills the lake. And
now you got the tidle searche all around the lake,
the north sore or south shore, wherever the west end
of the lake. It's if we could stop it at
the wriggles, the lake might only rise a couple of

(14:20):
feet because there wouldn't be enough surge going into it
to affect anything. So it would basically give us a
double protection, which is vital. Right now, that lake can
fill up again because we don't. We have no way
to stop the tidle search coming in on the east side.
And it's it's so important, folks, And it's only two
gates the way, I understand that there's a levee system

(14:41):
already there. So with that in place, all we need
is a way to keep it from coming through the
wrigglies or wriggles is a French word and it just
means a pass or a short river short value. And
by the way, Lake Pumpstram was the mouth of the
Mississippi River. That's why we have it. It was created
by that. That's why we've got an natural levee on
the lakefront. If you get right on the lake front,

(15:03):
it doesn't flood there. You have to go back a
couple of blocks before the flooding starts. But it's one
of those natural levees that foul rivers in a plain.
And so that you know, it shows how interesting our whole.
That's why the Lake Pontrein is not deep. At its deepest,
I think it's twenty feet, but in most plays it's

(15:23):
ten feet eight feet. Well, a lot of places it's
five feet.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Because Lake Pontrin is not a lake. It was originally
a it was a tidal estuary of a river, like
the mouth of the Hudson River, and then the Mississippi
River changed course and when it's current course, it.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Said four months. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
But it's also it's perfect if you have a huge
amount of tidle surge coming in because it is so shallow,
it is so twild, that it could overwhelm. So what
do you think of our idea?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Folks?

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Hi mchann and Christopher Tidmore is saying, Hurricane Francine, thank
god fewer people nobody was hurt, or very few people hurt.
There were some people lost power, but it could have
been a lot worse. But What do you think about
this idea? Would you be willing to pay more in
your property taxes to your levy system or to the
state if it was because we are allowed to have

(16:11):
a state property tax. We don't write now, but for
a levy protection the constitution allows it up to ten mills.
The question is would you be willing to pay more
property tax to build protections the chef pass and riglies
and double up all of our gates and protections with
concrete and clay as opposed to sand if it meant
in the long term you'd have a house protected. Drop

(16:34):
us an email at LA Political Comment, La Political Comment
at gmail dot com. That's LA Political Comment at gmail
dot com and tell us your thoughts on this idea
of the hig McKenny and Christopher tid Moore are placing
and maybe we might have enough political will to tell
our politicians to put gates at the chef pass and
the riglies.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Great ideas, Christopher, if the politicians were just listen to us, right, folks,
we got it right. And by the way, so taxes
make up, but guess what ensuring goes down, so it's
a net loss or gain for us. If I'm seeing
it correctly.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, on that note, high, it's time for us to
take a break. We'll be back talking a little bit
about the aftermath of the presidential debate, in the fact
there's not going to be another one. But actually we
have a breaking story, a story about a group of
Louisiana women who might have more to influence the presidential
election than anything that happened on ABC News between Donald
Trump and Kamala Harris.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
A break like a break in the Levey Christopher. By
the way, folks, do you need to know about this show.
We're like new Olens Levies. We hold nothing back. And
with that, we'll see you just a little bit.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
I happen to have a conversation with Roger Villary of
Villary's florist at the death of my aunt, who is
of course his cousin, and we were talking about how
much people better, people felt after the funeral when they
saw these beautiful arrangements from Villary's florist, and Roger came
to tell me, you know, flowers have been historically not
just a gift of get of peace and all this,

(18:01):
but they're actually psychologically proven that when you have a
flower arrangement on a table people are less angry, they're
more communicative. That flowers have this idea of bringing peace
and joy to people in the most tragic of circumstances.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
And then he held me up.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
I had put in an obituary in lieu of flowers.
He said, loul of flowers, He says, understand sometimes this
is what people give to show love in ways that
they cannot. And he was quite right, and it wasn't
just a personal thing, and it gave me a good
education about how important flowers are in our lives. High, Folks,
I encourage you, if you have a loved one, don't

(18:39):
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(19:01):
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Speaker 3 (19:10):
And for Christopher, how is the opera going these days?

Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's actually going quite well.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
For those that don't know, the opera Tosca's premiering on
October twenty seventh with at seven thirty pm. And there's
a matinee performance of the Opera Tosco on September twenty
ninth at two thirty pm. But you know what I'm
really excited about something for the ultimate date night. It's
a night in Italy.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
What it is.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
If you go to New Orleans Opera dot org, you
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the link for it. You can actually for one hundred
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plus invitation to our party on the piazza in front
of the Flower, in front of the fountains at Armstrong Park.
The ability to actually have this night in Italy where

(19:57):
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have coffee martinis, We're gonna have this whole Roman Evening
all after you hear the love story of Floria Tosca
and Roman eighteen hundred. You get to have this Roman
Evening on the Piazza, all inclusive ticket for two people,
two people together, all inclusive, food, alcohol, dancing. There's gonna

(20:18):
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Speaker 3 (20:34):
Dean Martin french sonat for Christopher. I'm bringing my bride.
We're gonna have a great night. Libus. We've always wanted
to go to Italy. We'll finally get to go. We'll
get to go.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
It is going to Italy without it's going to the
Piazza now Verona, without leaving Jackson much further than Jackson Square.
It is at night in opera. It is at the
Mehega Jackson Theater seven thirty pm September twenty ninth, and
followed at ten o'clock in front of the fountains, a
perfect Roman evening. Ladies and gentlemen, it is a perfect
date night. Give it a check out New Orleans Opera
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(21:04):
in Italy, A Night in Italy. It is a perfect
date night and the tickets are going quick.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
So if you don't do only one hundred dollars as
a poor missionary, I know we can afford that. Christ
w'itting up for We're doing it.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Food coffee Martini's is just the best deal you could
possibly have. And not only do you have classic puccini
inside the Mahea Jackson Theater, you actually do have everything
from traditional to contemporary Italian music and a lot of
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all your dancing into the wee hours of the morning.
All available at New Orleans Opera dot org. Check it

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out the Perfect Night in Italy, click on it and
come join us on September twenty ninth at Armstrong Park.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
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Speaker 3 (21:51):
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Speaker 2 (23:07):
With Christopher Tidmorey roving reporter and resident radical moderate. And
in my column in the Louisiana Weekly this week coming
out on Monday at Louisiana Weekly dot Net, I kind
of write about what happened in the debate, and it
kind of it made some people mad, Hi because what
I wrote about was, Yeah, eighty percent of the American

(23:27):
public thinks Trump lost. On the other hand, it's not
going to have really any impact on the election whatsoever,
as far as I can tell, for ten reasons. I'm
going to go through the ten reasons why Trump, who
had a bad debate, may have reached some of the
swing voters that he was trying to do, or at
least nothing changed. It's arguable though that Trump's that Harris's

(23:48):
best moment in debate was right after Taylor Swift made
the endorsement. Now for those that people here like Taylor Swift,
who cares you know this, I have to say, you
got to remember your a in all of this, because
Taylor Swift, to give you an idea, her Era's tour
had nine million people buy tickets in the United States

(24:10):
nine million in domestically, that's not even internationally. That's the
population of Pennsylvania. It's nine million people. It's eight point
eight nine or something. But more importantly, in Pennsylvania, four
hundred and forty two thousand young people mostly bought tickets
to her tour. That means four hundred and forty two

(24:32):
thousand people in Pennsylvania spent eight hundred dollars on average
to go spend one night in a massive arena to
where Taylor Swift looks like maybe a little jelly bean
one thousand miles away. And this was a paramount amount.
And so if you think people that do that aren't

(24:54):
going to be swayed by an endorsement, you're kind of wrong.
Where he plays that is one of the more that
was Harris's most important mode of that night. But even
with that, and that could be very tight. I actually
want to break a story here because something fundamental has happened.
We mentioned in the break Roger Villary and I was
chatting with him. He and I both were today and

(25:17):
we were talking and I said, Roger, I'm really curious
about something. What is the letter writing the postcard writing
campaign that's being organized by the Louisiana Republican Party. And
it's not Roger doesn't run the Republican Party anymore, but
he's a Republican National Committee maman, so he's aware of
all this stuff or the r NC or anything. He says,

(25:38):
what do you mean. I said, Well, let me give
you a story. We talked about the storms and hurricanes early. Well,
if you know anything about Hurricane Katrina, you remember there
was a lady by the name of Anne Milling. Anne
Milling was the leader of what was called Women of
the Storm.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah, and she did a great job with the Core
monitoring what was going on with how they were along
with several other groups. I was part of that, in fact,
and they did a great job of monitoring the Corps
of Engineers to make sure that the levees were built
properly this time. They would have been built properly last time,
but the politicians stopped the Corps from doing it the
right way.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Anne Milling is one of these figures, as you just saw,
that has a lot of bipartisan support. She's somebody who
doesn't usually get involved in day to day politics. She
almost never makes an endorsement, but she's a very influential figure. Well,
she is not a fan of Donald Trump, and she
actually became a fan of Joe Biden. Regardless what you

(26:32):
think of it, the Infrastructure Act, she thought it was
very good for levees. That was her justification amongst others,
and there's some truth in that. That's why Cassidy supported it.
It got a lot of money for our levees. Well,
Anne Milling looked at this and she said, what is
the most effective way we can swing votes in Pennsylvania.
Doesn't matter to swing votes in Louisiana. Donald Trump's gonna
win the state by fifteen to twenty points worst case scenario.

(26:55):
Pennsylvania is what matter. Whoever wins Pennsylvania wins this presidential election.
Things being, even for all the talk and all of
the facts that you saw Kamala Harris down in Georgia,
Harris is probably not gonna win Georgia or North Carolina.
Trump is probably not gonna win Arizona, Nevada. He could
win Arizona, Nevada. Harris could win Georgia or North Carolina.

(27:17):
But likelihoods are That's what is which means to get
to to the path of two seventies down to Pennsylvania
for either side. So Ann Milling has organized a group
of ladies, a massive group of ladies, and they are ladies,
to do a postcard writing campaign to mothers, suburbans, what
we would call soccer moms, suburban mothers in the greater Pittsburgh,

(27:40):
in greater Philadelphia areas and across Pennsylvania actually for this
saying for the sake of their children to vote for
Kamala Harris over Donald Trump. These are registered independents. It's
a massive campaign. And I know from personal experience when
you get a handwritten letter, that's what these are. There's
something about a handwritten place plea that hits us more

(28:02):
than anything else. When I ran for the legislature, my
mother and her friend's hand addressed ten thousand envelopes. It
was a massive undertaking. It was a full volunteer. But
what happened was ten thousand people got a handwritten letter
from my mother. The letters were photocopied, but the addresses
were hand done. The handwritten letter was photocopied, and it

(28:24):
was my mother asking them to vote for me, telling
them about me. People would show up in my parents'
house thinking this was some sort of scam and would
see my parents knock on the door, and my parents
tended to sit on the front porch a lot and
would say is this for real? Yeah, and they'd say,
We've never seen anything like this. You've got two votes.
They didn't really care what I believe, the fact that

(28:45):
I was running on floodgates of the chef ass and
the regulays back in two thousand and seven, and what
we talked about, they didn't care. I guess they cared,
But what they cared about was this was a personal
appeal made from one mother to another. Well, that is
what Anne Milling has put together for Kamala Harris. And
let me get beat very specific. Pennsylvania was won by

(29:07):
Donald Trump by forty four thousand votes in twenty sixteen.
It was lost by Donald Trump by eighty eight thousand votes,
which seems like a lot, but that's less than one
tenth of one half of one percent of the vote.
It is a minuscule amount of votes in the grand
scheme of things, and these letter writing campaigns could have

(29:28):
a very direct impact in ways. The ABC debate, which
even though it had over sixty million people watching, might
not It is a massive So I asked Roger I said,
tell me there's got to be is there something? Because they,
the RNC had been asking him and others to go
to Georgia and do knocking on doors and basically volunteer.
I said, what is their campaign? You've got the one

(29:50):
thing the GOP has is a lot of you know,
ladies in their fifties and sixties and Republican Women chapters
and all this being able to do these you know
postcards like this, where is Donald Trump's And he said,
and he looked at me, and he says, I don't
think we have any like that.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
And it wasn't this.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
He thought it was a brilliant idea. He says, I've
always been an advocate of that he did in his
own races and all this, but there has been no
effort like what Anne Milling has done. And by the way,
just for those people, it says, well that's nice. One
lady's doing it Louisiana. There has been this postcard campaign.
It's part of a national campaign of mothers writing mothers
on postcards, grandmother's writing mothers, grandmother's writing grandmother's and that

(30:28):
may have more to do in this presidential election than
any super pac money any debates, anything that's happened to
swing Who next sits in the White House? Kamala Harris
or Donald Trump?

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Interesting Christopher as far as uh Taylor swift from what
I heard today by experts, let's say political experts. Of
course they all claim their experts, and that is that
she may get a lot of support. The only problem
is her her fans don't vote. They'n't even registered to vote,

(31:04):
so it may not mean anything. Tailoress endorsement of Harris,
So we'll see. And there there are a lot of
other big time you know, entertainers right now who are
also entertaining I mean, endorsing Trump. So uh that that's
gonna you know, Connor what what she's done. And I'm
sure there'll be other Look, there's gonna be a lot

(31:24):
of entertainers jumping on this thing on both sides. So
it'll be interesting to see how that that fleshes out
as this thing unravels before us. The postcard thing sounds brilliant.
The Republican Party better get busy by doing their own.
They better get some women together that uh would would
do what? And I know Anne Milling, she's brilliant, gallant,
she's been very remarkably capable and successful and things she's done.

(31:48):
I know her her husband also, who is a very
prominent businessman here in New Orleans and so interesting. I'm
surprised she's she's for Harris, seeing what that administration done
to this country over the past four years. I mean,
it's just stunning that she would. You know, she likes
to fix things that are broken. Oh my goodness. Trump
did a remarkable job on fixing all the broken things,

(32:10):
and the Democrats got it, and they have just destroyed
the tremendous success. You know, the smartest thing Biden could
have ever done if he wanted to be re elected,
just leave all the Trump policies in and begin to
claim that he did it as politicians do. But instead
he destroyed everything Trump. He'd be killed every great policy
Trump had in place, and we're paying dearly for it

(32:33):
right now, and especially with even to the point where
it's affecting our pets. Our pets are now being eaten
by illegal aliens. I mean, it's gotten that bad, folks.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Okay, let me put to this side, this entire pet argument.
Do you know where it comes from? There was an
allegation in Springfield Ohio, that a group of wild geese.
Wild geese disappeared, and so the allegation was because there
was a Haitian neighborhood, the Haitians that lived nearby. These

(33:04):
weren't pets. There were wild geese marching thorough park where
took the wild geese and cooked them. There's never, by
the way, been any evidence that this actually happened. That
while geese disappear, it's just happened. They're wild, they fly away,
they go places. But let's assume for a second that
this was actually true. There's been this incredible bloggisphere game

(33:27):
of telephone that has gone in. So wild geese became
pets that were wild geese, and pets that were wild
geese became pets, and then pets became pet dogs and cats,
and when you chase it back to the original story,
you find out it's wild geese.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I would actually beg you to tell me one legitimate
media source, a reporter on the ground there. I don't
mean National Fox or MSNBC or CNN all this. I'd
like you to tell me one reporter on the ground
in Springfield, Illinois who reported that Haitians were eating cats

(34:05):
and dogs it's not true.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Well, Christopher, it is true that immigrants have done that
in the past, and for all we know, they're doing
it now. I remember when we were filled with the
Vietnamese boat people, and people's dogs were disappearing all of
the place because the Vietnamese loved dogs. Now, that was
an issue here in NWOS and I had many people
testify to that that personally saw it and were experiencing it. Now,

(34:30):
that was, you know, thirty forty years ago. But immigrants
like to eat certain types of animals that we would
never eat. And I'm hearing this, I'm seeing pictures of it.
And this whole wild goose thing is so you ever
heard of a wild goose chase? Folks, Well, let me
tell you some. I used to hunt geese and we'd
call it. We would creep them. And that's don't try that, folks.

(34:55):
I don't think we hardly ever saw of goose. Geese
are some of the smartest animals out there, Like like
wild turkeys. You can get near them. They had centuries
all over the place. They are constantly looking around and
the first thing that in the slightest way stirs them
and they can they see us a lot better than
we could see them. We never were able to have
a successful creep you know, creep hunt on a goose

(35:16):
or a flock of geese. This is down and in
fact it was down and now the mistic go that area.
We had a hunting camp down there, uneffishent camp and
years ago, many years ago, the Boonze farm and uh
so that's a while they caught a wild goose chase
because it's just really hard to catch geese, folks, it's hard,
it's hard to keep. So I don't know who came

(35:38):
up with this cockamaning story. It's ridiculous. But what I
have seen is pictures of the Haitians cooking the dogs
and the cats and all the other things. I've never
heard anything about this wild goose story. So maybe that
was fabricated to make it look like the whole thing
was a lot of baloney. I don't know, but I
guarantee there wasn't one Haitian that ever caught a wild goose.
You know. And by the way, if they disappear, they

(35:58):
disappear all the time. Lying South. It's very normal. You'd
say a bunch of geese and the next thing you know,
they're not there, they're they've headed south.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
What's more logical, folks, the wild geese disappeared, people said,
it's got to be the Haitians or they're eating cats
and dogs.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
All right, Look, no eyewitness accounts of them eating the
cats and the dogs of that?

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Why witness accounts?

Speaker 3 (36:18):
That's the problem with seeing them.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Chris, you haven't quoted I do. I do, all right, Look,
but I want to actually talk about everybody's been talking about,
you know, how Trump lost the debate, and I want
to let me.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Let me.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
You're gonna agree with what I'm about to say. Here's
the thing. You made a comment a second ago he
said Biden abandoned all the Trump policies could have kept it. Well,
here's the weakest moment that Kamala Harris had in the
debate when she came in and she says, the sales
tax you're gonna put on everybody, Well, the sales tax,
what she means is the tariff that he wants to

(36:54):
put on a twenty percent across the board tariff on
goods coming into the country. And yes, that is a tax,
and that the sales tex. Here's the problem. She's in
a terrible position to accuse him of that because every
tariff that Trump put on China and everywhere else Biden kept,
So you can't really attack.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Trump those he did keep.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
You can't really attack Trump on tariffs. Tariffs are stupid
economic policy, but when you embrace the stupid economic policy,
you're not really in a position to attack the guy
who did it. When you stole his idea.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
It doesn't mean it, but it brought back manufacturing that
we had lost, So that was good.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
For that miss The stats don't say that. Stats actually
said we're a lower manufacturer than we were, quite periously.
But the fact, the fact of the matter is tariffs
are popular. People like tariffs. You know why they like
tariffs because it's yeah, it's it's for those that don't know.
One of the most famous Louisiana politicians we've ever had
that was effective was Huey Long's son, Russ Senator russe

(37:52):
Along and Senator russe Along had an adage of back taxation.
Don't tax you, don't tax me, tax the guy behind it. Well,
a tariff is the ultimate tax of the guy behind
a tree. You don't have to pay at tax. I
don't have to pay a tax. It's that guy in
China or that guy in Mexico, or that guy in Canada,
that guy at England, or that guy in Europe or

(38:12):
that guy in Southeast Asia. They gotta pay at tax.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
They're making us pay tariffs, why don't we make them?

Speaker 2 (38:16):
In most cases on the General Agreement Trade in tariffs,
it's less than five percent. So the Chinese are a
different case. I will freely I'm not gonna defend the Chinese.
They play fast louse. Most countries don't. Actually, they actually
really do want to have trade. They're dependent on it.
But the fact of the matter is you can argue
tariff policy. But it's the point in the debate that
it really fell apart in Harris's arguments because you will

(38:40):
never be able to out tariff Trump. And so if
Biden and Harris had been smart and they're trying to
get moderate voters, they would have turned and tried to
have a totally different policy. Instead, they basically said we'll
do it, and it was it was wonderful week or
the other weak moment in the debate for her. And
this is the question of how effective the big was was.
There are Trump super packs right now who are running

(39:03):
ads all over Western Pennsylvania of Kamala Harris saying I
will ban fracking, which she only said about ten million times. Now,
this whole thing I meant on federal lands, I never meant. Unfortunately,
it's the most easy contradiction to do it, even that
moderators who weren't exactly pro Trump and that debate, to
say the least, even I'll say that we're coming out

(39:24):
and saying, wait, Vice President Harris, you said you would
ban fracking. It wasn't complicated. You also said you had
Medicare for all.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
She flipped loged.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
But the fact is in western Pennsylvania, New Orleanians will
relate to this. Pittsburgh was a city of industry and wealth,
massive unbelievable wealth, and it lost most of it. It's
actually a beautiful city to go to, which people aren't
surprised by. But it's a city that was extremely successful,
the height of a port city. It's the connection of

(39:52):
three rivers. It was a lynchpin of American trade. It
was the other half of the continental system for New Orleans.
And it died very similar economic to lines New Orleans.
And so when fracking came around through western Pennsylvania, and
I point out to people. One of the reasons Pittsburgh
became a major capital was not just it head coal
to the south, it had oil to the north. Fracking

(40:12):
is part of a tradition of oil exploration that goes
back to literally the man who started Standard Oil, you know,
Rockefeller was from Pittsburgh, the general area, just up the
road from it, and so Pittsburgh is right on the border,
so it actually his one of his headquarters. Standard Oil's
first headquarters was in Pittsburgh. So but the point I'm

(40:33):
getting at all of this is for a city that
has a lack of economic opportunities that suddenly has economic hope,
we knew where on Indians know how it is to
fall like that and to come back. And this is
one of the points. One of the challenges Kamala Harris
has out of the debate by saying I didn't know,
is that that one message alone gets a lot of people,

(40:54):
particularly union workers, very unnerved because they need the chief
energy to compete. A lot of industries needed and so
these are two things that comes out of debate. That's
why I basically came out and said I think both
Taylor Swift, By the way, Taylor Swift is doing the
same thing that was done in nineteen ninety two with
Rock the Vote to get young people registered, and it

(41:17):
made the difference why Taylor Swift and Ann Milling may
have more to do with changing this election than anything
that happened in that presidential with.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Me, all right, well interesting, by the way, I have
a different take on the debate. And I had friends
that did not see it, but they listened to it,
and they said on the radio, Trump clearly won the
debate for the visuals and when you listen, when you
could see them, that Trump was debating three people, not
just one. Because the moderators were clearly on her side.

(41:47):
They wouldn't correct anything she did, and they repeatedly tried
to correct Trump. That's so absurd. It was off the charts,
unfair or unjust. Trump walked into a trap. He knew it, though,
because he had to have a debate, and he was
willing to go that far in enemy territory, if you will,
so at least we could have a debate. But what

(42:10):
I heard after the debate from quote the experts, is
that what killed Harris was her expressions, and you could
see she had been She probably had the best drama
coaches in America, right out of Hollywood and Broadway, training
her how to put on certain expressions and attitudes and
whatnot to make it look like she was so superior. Well,
that backfired because what I heard was that that really

(42:33):
gave her a very terrible impression to the voters. They
saw her as proud and arrogant, obnoxious and insulting, and
so it actually was a bad move on her part.
Of course, that's what her handlers were getting her to do.
As far as the basic content, you know, Trump was
given a ton of content and policies and anything like that.

(42:54):
She gave nothing other than joy and Roy Rower kick
him in the knee kind of stuff. Her performance, to
me was pathetic, and I would say that he clearly
won that debate. Of course, I'm also a big trump man,
but I'm hearing a lot of polls that are also
saying that he wanted a debate. I think it's kind
of fifty to fifty on how the polls are going on.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
That literally every single bowl, including of Trumps supporters, said
she won. And as one of there's a pro Trump
guy I deal with on column writ as a columnists,
and he made the comment. I thought it was rich
about Harris. The Kakuline buffoon is gone. Somebody prepared for
this evening not what I expected. That alone, coming from
trump Bites that she was poised makes a big difference.

(43:37):
We got to take a quick breasure. Well.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
I heard a lot of Trump bites, experts and whatnot
who were very pro Trump and that he really did
win the debate. Folks.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
We will see when the exit polls come out, but
I think both of us agreed that this debate may
not have as much impact as some of the other
issues going on. We'll be back with the patriotic moment
after these important messages.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
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Speaker 3 (46:27):
Well, folks were back and you are listening to the
founders show the voice of the funding fathers. And it's
not time for us to go into our chaplain by
by patriotic moment where I just take a brief moment
to give you a little history lesson on the biblical
foundations of our country, our Judeo Christian jurisprudence. And today
we're going to talk about none other than Sir Edmund Burke,

(46:47):
who is a very popular political philosopher, if you will,
among the founding fathers in America, in the colonies. He
had a huge impact on the American Revolution. Now, he
was a British parliamentarian from Ireland, and these are some
of his famous quotes. Religion always is a principle of energy,
and this new principle is no way worn out or impaired,

(47:12):
and their mode of professing it is also the one
main cause for this free spirit. The Americans have freedom
and not servitude is a cure of anarchy, as religion
and not atheism is a true remedy for superstition. I
have been told by an eminent bookseller that in no
branch of his business after tracts of popular devotion, were

(47:36):
so many books of those on biblical law exported to
the colonies, meaning America. He also said, there is but
one law for all, namely that law which governs all law,
the law of our Creator, the law of humanity, justice, equity,
in the law of nature and of nations. And then

(47:57):
he went on to say, all that is necessary for
evil triumph is for good men to do nothing, folks.
That's a famous quote. He was a huge success in America.
The Americans loved him. If the British Parliament had listened
to him in the Crown, they would have been no
American Revolution because he was trying to resolve the problems
and he could have done it peacefully, but they wouldn't listen.

(48:19):
So we had the American Revolution. I guess that was
God's best plan. But remember we did it under the
influence of very godly biblical men like Edmund Burke, who
had such an influence on our government in our country. Folks.
He said that all that's necessary for evil to prosper
is for good men to do nothing. Do you know
that that's an interesting concept when you think about the Gospel.

(48:41):
And it is now time for us to go into
our chapelain Bah Bah gospel moment, where again I just
take a brief moment to show you how you can
know that you know that, you know you were saved
from a burning hell and guaranteed everlasting life. And it
goes like this. You might be a good person, you
might be the greatest patriot that ever lived. But if
you died and went to hell, what would it mean?

(49:03):
What good would it be? So let's just say you
are a really good man, but if you do nothing,
guess where you're going. You go in hell. See, you
got to do something, and this is what you have
to do. It's really simple. The scripture says, believe on
the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved. All
you got to do is believe. Well, what do you
believe in? You got to believe, the scripture tells us.
In first going, there is fifteen. For I declare unto

(49:24):
you the gospel good news that Jesus died for all
of our sins. I mean, folks, from the day you're born,
in the day you die, your tiniest the greatest sins,
all went on the cross, all went on Jesus, and
he paid for them all his blood. The scripture says,
watched them all the way that for I declared to
you the gospel that Jesus died for all of our
sins according to the scripture, that he was buried, and
that he rose from the dead according to the scripture.

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And then, folks, that's what you have to believe in.
You have to believe that he died for all your sins,
was buried and rose to dead, and that you can
do nothing for that. It's a free gift. We have
been saved by grace. The scripture says. That means a
free gift. We've been saved by God's free gift of
everlasting life. We've been saved by grace through faith. That's
how you get it. You got to believe with all

(50:06):
your heart, with the faith of a little child, that
it's for you. It's for you personally. The gospel is
for you. We've been saved by grace to faith. And
even that is not of ourselves. It is a gift
of God, not of works, lest any man should boast.
I don't care what kind of works you try to do.
It does matter special prayers given to the church, handing

(50:27):
out gospel tracts, turning from your sins. There's a long
list of things you could do or try to do.
You can't help Jesus out. Only he could do it
one man, the Lord Jesus Christ, who's perfect God and
perfect man. All the way God and all the way man. Folks,
if you've never believed this before, please do it now.
Don't wait till it's too late, like the old country

(50:49):
preacher said, and like the Bible says, now today is
a day of salvation. If you've never done this before,
please right now. I believe that Jesus died for all
your sins, was buried in or from the dead, and
he guarantees you everlasting life, resurrects in life. He guarantees
you heaven. Your name will be sealed in the Lamb's

(51:10):
Book of Life. So when you show up at the
heavenly gates, the pearly gates, old Saint Pet's goes, he's
on the list. Let them in and you get to
go to Heaven forever. Folks. But you got to believe
with all your heart and the faith of a little child.
Be believing with all your heart means you don't trust yourself.
That's called repentance. That's when you believe, you really know
you cannot save yourself as long as you think you

(51:30):
can do. Some prides in the way. The script says,
God get resistant the proud, but giveth grace to the humble.
So folks, give up, quit trying to help God out,
and just take it like a child with the faith
of a little child. Do it right now, folks, and
you're guaranteed heaven. Well, now, folks, it's not time for
us to go into our chaplain by by testimony time.
We'll just take a brief moment to tell you a

(51:51):
beautiful and wonderful story about someone in the past or
even today that has walked with God and given us
a beautiful life story of just how how good a
Christian should be. I'm thinking right now of one fellow
no name, Martin de Loyl, who just passed away. We
called him Stick. He was one of the greatest examples
of Christianity that I've known in a personal way. The

(52:12):
man was just a wonderful man. He loved the Lord.
He loved people. That's how we know he loved the
Lord because the scripture says to love your neighbor as
you love yourself, and Jesus says, that's it's very important,
because it's like the most important commandment, love God with
everything you have. But the way you know it is
if you in the Book of James and says, if
you see somebody loving their neighbor, that way, we know

(52:33):
they love God. Well, well, Martin was like that. We
called him Stick. He was such a remarkable man. He
was a man of God. He helped so many people,
He did so many things. He was on so many boards,
so many terrible things. He was a family man if
there ever was one. Martin de Loyal was a man
among men. He stood tall, I really believe in the
way God sees things in God's eyes. He was a

(52:57):
true believer and a lover of people. Folks, Martin de
Laurel may rest in peace, and I know he is.
I know he knew the Lord, just like his precious
brother David, who was also a very devout Christian. If
you ever knew Martin de Laurel, you're glad you know him.
He was that kind of guy. Well, folks, it's not
time for us to close as we close with herman

(53:18):
Saint Martin singing a creole goodbye. And by the way,
if you don't know the Lord, it's time for you
to know and believe that Jesus died for all your
sins and rolls from the dead, and our mind take
it away.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
To call you cREL goodbye. They think we're just wasted
the time, all three sibl.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Of me.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
There's time for a Creo goodbye.