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July 25, 2025 54 mins
Hy and Christopher spend the second half of the Founders Show talking about the entrance of Eric Skrmetta into the US Senate race on Friday, July 25. Qualifying is actually in December for a closed primary in April 2026, so his primary election occurs less than nine months from today.
The Louisiana Public Service Commissioner, who represents a district the size of a congressional seat, cuts into US Sen. Bill Cassidy’s support in the metro New Orleans area and the Florida parishes, the critical part of the incumbent Senator’s base of support. (Skrmetta’s current district stretches across Jefferson, Livingston, Orleans, Plaquemines, St. Bernard, St. Charles, St. Helena, St. Tammany, Tangipahoa, and Washington Parishes.)
A new video announcing his bid for the US Senate emphasizes some of Skrmetta’s accomplishments, including playing a major role and bringing a massive Steel-production facility to Donaldsonville and his expertise on energy matters — especially his successes in cutting utility bills for his constituents, saving over $8 billion in costs, and giving Louisiana the lowest utility rates in America.
The video further outlines his biography as the son of working-class entrepreneurs from New Orleans, as well as his lifelong connection with the Republican Party culminating in his role as Louisiana Chairman for Trump in 2020.
Hy and Christopher discuss how Skrmetta’s entrance into the race is bad news for not only US Sen. Bill Cassidy (who has been a target of Donald Trump‘s since voting to convict on impeachment in 2021), but also his previously announced primary opponents LA Treasurer John Fleming and State Sen. Blake Miguez, both of whom have been trying to claim the MAGA mantle with far less credibility than Eric Skrmetta can boast.
In the first half of the show, we speak with Jordan LaHaye Fontenot, and talk about her new book on a true crime case in Evangeline Parish. Her great-grandfather was murdered, his case never fully solved, and her new book explores some of the conspiracy theories about the death of the prominent small town, Acadiana banker.  Signed copies of “Home of the Happy: A Murder on the Cajun Prairie” are available at the Garden District Book Shop at https://www.gardendistrictbookshop.com or by calling (504) 895-2266.
Fontenot is also the editor of Country Roads Magazine, and we talk about chronically in Louisiana each month from festivals to the arts.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Battles the politicians. Listener addressed, the digitators and magicians are
trust to see the money, then you don't. There's nothing
to fill the holes while they are filling their pockets. Biles,
the politicians bouncing down the road. Every body'sition to no moment,

(00:29):
corruption and dysfunction. It's gonna take me, divide it.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Avention look candidate in the US Senate race. Questions why
the House of Representatives adjourned right before the Epstein vote.
Questions of treason and ladies and gentlemen murder on the
Cajun prairie. All of this and more on this edition
of The Founder Show.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
And God bless all out there. You are now listening
to the founders. So the voice of the founding Fathers.
You're Founding Fathers coming to your within the bowels of
those mystic and cryptic alligator swamps of the Big Easy,
that old Crescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana, and high up
on top of that old Liberty Cypress tree way out

(01:12):
on the Eagles Branch, this is none other than your
spingary Baba of the Republic, Chaplain High mcnry, who.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
With Christopher Tidmore, you're roving a reporter, resident radical moderate
and associate editor of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at Louisiana
Weekly dot net. And coming up, we're going to be
breaking the story of a major new US Senate candidate
jumping into this race. What are the implications for Bill
Cassidy in this closed Republican primary with the potentiality, in fact,
the announcement on Friday that Eric Skremetta, Public Service Commissioner,

(01:44):
favorite of a lot of the magabase but also someone
who can get Republican moderate votes, will be joining the
US Senate race. While also look at Mike Johnson's trevale
is going on in the House, in the Senate right
now with all the Epstein files, and how is that
playing with some of his wrongest magas supporters. Who are
the ones demanding the release of the Epstein files. We'll
talk about that in the Louisiana Implications, along with a

(02:06):
couple of new interesting facts about the New Orleans mayor's race.
But we have to look a little further afield on
this point high and talk to our special guest who's
joining us via phone link. Her name is Jordan Lehey Fontano.
And if that name besides the implications of Louisiana Stalles.
You've probably read her stuff. She's the editor of Country

(02:27):
Roads magazine. She's a prominent journalist, and she's the author
of a brand new book, Home of the Happy, a
murder on the Cajun Prairie. It is not a novel.
It is a story of a true crime that quite
literally Jordan hits a little close to home. And it
is a novel on sale, by the way and shameless
plug at the Garden District Bookshop at twenty seven to

(02:47):
twenty seven Pretennia currently signed copies on sale.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
But Jordan, we've got suspense coming up.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
We've got suspense getting ready for folks.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
It's very exciting. We've got mystery too, mystery and suspen
in this Midsummer in this much more fun than politics.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
In the Midsummer edition, we've got a true crime story
and unsolved mystery that will be joining us and Jordan,
welcome to the program. And I got to tell you,
I was absolutely captivated by your book. At first. I
was like, she wrote a book about a great grandfather
getting killed. This'll be interesting. But I knew what stopped
me is I knew your stuff. Obviously. I followed you

(03:22):
with the Country Roads magazine for years. I knew that
you were. When I first met you, I was like,
I knew your I knew who you were, and then
and your reputation, and then I picked up the book expecting, Okay,
I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest here. Sometimes I have
to interview a lot of authors, and sometimes I will
read a little bit of the book and get the
essence and a few questions, and that's kind of the

(03:44):
end of it, and I get enough to be able
to get through an interview. I couldn't put yours down.
This book, Home of the Happy was chillingly and fascinatingly
a study of not only a community in a Kadiana,
but all also a murder that has obsessed people for decades.
And it's something that you found out about by talking

(04:07):
to your father about his grandfather. So set the stage.
Why did you write the book the Home of the Happy?
You know, a murder in the Cajun Prairie.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yes, well, first, just thank you so much for having me,
and thank you for all of the really kind words.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Why did I write this book?

Speaker 4 (04:24):
You know, it started actually as a as a college
like I was an English student at LSU, and we're
kind of really getting into nonfiction writing and writing about home,
which for me is Evangeli and parish, which is rural Louisiana,
Cajun Country, kind of towards the center of the state,

(04:45):
right on like the border of what people say cage
like Cajun Country is but like strange, small little place
and lots of really interesting stories that I You know,
as a college student, when you move to the city,
you start to look at home in a different way.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Give us some names of close by towns or cities,
like Lafayette, New Iberia or something like that.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Geography, Lafayette is about an hour away from where I grew.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Up south north.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Oh my gosh, I am really about it, Okay, geography
and being put on the spot. I'm like, oh my gosh,
where is it? Oh no, that's okay, it's but Ville
Platt is like the parish seat, and Mamu.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Is where Yeah, I've got cousins out there, Mamu.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Everybody not to put in a prominent journalist of country roads,
but Lafayette is south, so that place.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Appreciate it. And Rose Sharamie has a connection.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
To oh Rose is mentioned in this book, no road
share me just being I think part of the lore
of you know, criminal activity in rural Louisiana gets intertwined
with the story of my great grandfather's murder as well.

(06:04):
Just as you know, this is one of those stories
that there's a lot of a lot of kind of
unresolved questions, and that leaves room for conspiracy theories, which
always lead back to JFK Right.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Always, and we do that often on this show. But
you're the assassinations aside. Your grandfather's murder is not something
that's just well interesting to your family or interesting to
your lineage. It's something that was interesting to everyone around you.
One of the points you make at the beginning of
the book is people would come up to you and

(06:36):
ask and talk about this constantly before you finally asked
your youurologist father, what's the deal? What happened? And so
set up? What the what this unexplained set of events
were sure so And for those just joining us, by
the way, we're joined by Jordan Leahey Fontino. She's the
author of a brand new book that is available at

(06:58):
the Garden District Bookshop. And I say, in shameless plug
but it is their assigned copies. I highly recommend It's
one of the best books of true crime I've read
in years. It's called Home of the Happy, A murder
in the Cajun prayor so set this up for us,
Jordan la Hey Fontonolf you.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Would, yes, So the story it kind of. It begins
on January sixth, nineteen eighty three, and my grandparents, my
great grandparents, live in Mamau, Louisiana, and on a rural
stretch of road that now is called La Hay Road
and very quiet community. My great grandfather was the banker,

(07:34):
the bank president of the area and very well known,
very wealthy, owned a lot of land, a lot of farmland,
and that he had just retired a couple weeks before.
And at five am on that morning, a stranger knocked
on their door. And there's debate about whether Aubrey recognized him,

(07:55):
all breathing my great grandfather, Aubrey Laigh. There's debate about
when they answered the door, whether he recognized him or not.
But the man he asked for to use their phone,
he had had car trouble, and they let him inside,
and when they did, he pulled out a knife and

(08:16):
threatened them and asked for money. He ended up tying
my great grandmother to her bed and then taking Aubrey
with him, and Aubrey la Haye was never seen alive
again after that day because of his status as a
banker and just in the community. What happened next over
the next ten days, it was the FBI was was

(08:37):
part of the investigation, State police obviously, the local sheriff's
department was there and really just like the whole community
was like in that house. That was sort of the investigation,
like base and search parties. My dad was eighteen, so
he was going out on horseback looking for clues and

(08:58):
it was they called it the biggest manhunt that had
ever happened to an evangeliin parish. And at the end
of it all, they found his body in the bay
U Nipi k which it was a family had found
they were practicing with their gun and they actually they
actually thought it was trash and they shot into it

(09:18):
a whole bunch of.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
Times before realizing that it was a body.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah, so it's a greuesome end to a kind of
terrible investigation, a really terrible time.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
For my family. And we have a large family.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
So they were all at that house, just waiting for
news and and yeah, so from that point, they still
didn't have a suspect. They really didn't have anything after
ten days of investigating.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
And.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
They continued to look for the right person.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
And you know, I won't get into all of the
details here, but eventually they did over a year later
before it was over a year later before they before
they actually arrested someone for the crime. And that man
his name is John Brady Balfa. He is still to
this day serving time in prison for the murder of

(10:09):
Aubrey la Hay. And so the questions that I guess
conspiracy theories of all this come from. I think that
the story that the courts told left a lot of room,
Like people just didn't buy the motive. The motive felt unconvincing.
But also there was a lot of really sketchy things

(10:31):
about the way that the trial played out, and a
lot of small town politics at play. Our family was
a powerful family in town, and so people had questions
about how much influence they were having. And over the
past forty years, all of that has sort of it's
become less urgent, and it's sort of in whispers. It's

(10:52):
not something that people would talk about openly, certainly not
to us our family, and I didn't really know any
of the details until I finally asked my dad about it.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
So for those just joining us, were joined by Jordan
Leahey Fontano talking about her book A wonderful, fascinating It's
not only a fascinating essay on a true crime situation,
but you're hitting the essence of a big point of
a Jordan, of the culture and an environment in Evangeline
Parish in the Cajun Prairie. The book is Home of

(11:24):
the Happy, a murder in the Cajun Prairie. And I mean,
I'm going through the book and then basically there's talk
of assassination, there's talk of why was it motivated because
of his banking, and there's talk about what's happening. And
so I want to ask you the question put yourself
in this. When you grow up around a conspiracy, you
hear things, but you came back and actually asked your father,

(11:46):
who's a prominent doctor today, what his memories were and
started this pathway to try to get at the truth
behind the rumors, not just what went is and what
were the most unexpected things you discovered without giving away
too much of the book is we want people to
come to the Garden District Bookshop and of course buy
the book where you get signed copies at twenty seven
twenty seven Porteny or Garden distriokshop dot com. But what

(12:08):
were the more unexpected things as you did? Because the
book reads and what I found fascinating about it, it's
this cultural study of of a Cagun small town basically,
and it's it's really the characters and personality real people.
Let me see you change the names here and there.
But basically you were, oh, no, change.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
Really yeah, everyone's names.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, I probably stand correct. Because I was reading, I
was like, she can't be actually telling Okay, I give
you more credit because some of the stories you're telling
in the book than are just unbelievable. And I'm listening,
I'm won't reading this. I'm saying, my god, you're you're
actually kind of giving a sociological study meets, you know,

(12:51):
look code word angel about this town. And so I
talk about the unexpected things you've discovered.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
With a song being Hank Williams. I remember Fontina want
to buy You Hank Williams song effected.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I mean this is the murder of your great grandfather,
your father's grandfather father. What are some of the things
you discovered, you.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Know, I think for me, the story really I was
so I was like twenty years old when I started this, right,
and I'm twenty nine now, and so.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
It really followed.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
I found this story at a time when I was
really growing up and also kind of re examining the
place I came from. And so for me, I think
with the sort of unexpected in a naive kind of
child coming of age way, was just how flawed people are,

(13:46):
and how flow of people from home are, and how
the system and the way our small town works. As
much as it can be kind of idyllic and sweet,
there's so much. And I guess i've you know, you
suspect that's true, but then you actually get into it
and you see it written out in court transcripts or

(14:07):
in you know, these like police documents, and you really
it's hitting you, and then it's happening to people that
I know, and happening really close to home. For me,
it was a real experience kind of coming to those realizations.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
For sure. Considering as we're talking about a conspiracy here,
there's some people who make fun of conspiracies. They say,
there's no such thing. I grew up in my high
school and college years. If I ever said anything about
a conspiracy, which I did, the professor would mock me,
ridicule me. The class would laugh, because there's is such thing.
It's conparracy. It's just dumb dummies, you know, slapping things up.

(14:44):
It's not just by accident. Well, you know, let's look
at the reality of conspiracies. First of all, it is
a legal term there right now in our courts, across
our fruited planes. I don't know, maybe one hundred cases
dealing with criminal conspiracy. If you don't believe in conspiracies,
ask Abraham Lincoln, JFK, Jesus Christ, and many others who

(15:10):
can guarantee that, yes, thereah's such a thing as conspiracy.
All right, So let's so don't be bold about that.
Don't feel bash, you know, don't let anybody make this
for The liberals always rejected the idea of conspiracy until
with the conservatives started having a strong you know, results
and at the voting boosts, and then all of a

(15:30):
sudden it became a vast right wing conspiracy. Also could say,
before conspirapency.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Was there a conspiracy that you were coming across Jordan?

Speaker 4 (15:41):
I mean several, right, But I I think I was
treating them.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
I guess maybe they were as more as rumors.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
I mean, there were certainly people who had ideas of
what happened, and some ideas were prevailing more than others.
I kind of treated it like oral history, right, like
why do all of these Why do all of these
ideas exist? What is and is it possible? Is it
plausible that any of them are true? So I kind
of follow them right throughout. I follow a lot of
them as far as I can go, and some most

(16:11):
of them, almost all of them I kind of end
up at a dead end. But not always because they're
employed like impossible, but sometimes just because of the limits
of time and evidence and you know, my own ability
to find you know, people have died, you know, the
people that I would need to talk to are not
here anymore. But just I think taking those ideas a

(16:34):
little bit seriously and not just as whispers. And I
think putting that all that together contributes to the story
of this crime and its legacy. It's kind of why
people aren't satisfied with with how it ended, how it's
I mean, it's not really ended, but where we're at
now and it's been so much time, people still talk
about it. People still wonder about it.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Why you know, Jordan Lafont too. I mean, the idea
of a banker being abduct did murder, and people people
don't always realize this. Kidnappings are very rare because even
the worst criminals know that the FBI and everybody comes
down on you. You can't. It's the it's the one
crime that all hell will break loose. And so for

(17:15):
that to have happened, it kind of makes sense that
people are wondering was there more to the story. And
I don't want to give away too much of the book,
Jordan lay Fontono. It is available at the Gardeneritional Bookshop.
We don't want to actually give the whole book, so
nobody has a reason not to buy it. But I
do want to ask you before we before we let
you go on this, that we talked about the most

(17:36):
unexpected things you've found. What was the most heartening thing
you discovered? Because you're basically looking at all these things
about your hometown and a terrible set of events that
happened in your family that led to your great grandfather's murder?
What was Was there something uplifting about what you discovered
at all?

Speaker 4 (17:55):
And it's okay to say no, You know, well, I
think that there was a lesson for my fa family
in particular, less maybe about the community, even more about
my family really, you know, after understanding the real like
trauma and devastation that they went through, coming away with
like a better understanding of how on earth they made

(18:16):
like my generations lives so functional and.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Like well adjusted and beautiful.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
It's just kind of a miracle that that's how our
lives are now, you know, knowing what they've had to
go through to get here, I have a much greater
appreciation for these people and how resilient and just strong
they are now.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
I mean, to have even your father to end up
starting college and becoming a doctor under this microscope of
what's going on around it is just extraordinary. Jordan Layfontino,
I hope that people will come and read this book
because you understand when you when you read this book, folks,
you understand a lot more about how Louisiana is in
ways that we don't always appreciate. The book is Home

(19:00):
the Happy murder in the Cajun Prairie. It is available
at the Garden District book Shop and at many bookstores
around Louisiana. You can go to a Garden dishc bookshop
dot com or call the bookstore. But I wanted to
ask you one other question because most people don't know
your day job, which they see your magazine everywhere. It's
Country Roads Magazine. They see it in every place, and
it's distributed basically all up and down the Mississippi River.

(19:23):
The golf you know, parish is across the state Mississippi,
all the way up and for those that aren't as familiar,
you basically are one of the only real regional magazines
about this area of the Golf South. And I wanted
to give you a chance to give a free plug
for your day job.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Yeah, well, thank you very much. Yes, Country Roads is
really something special. We are a small but industrious team
who really cares about our region and the culture and
the people who make it.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
Really like nowhere else we are.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Our August issue is coming out within the next week
or so, and it's Deep South Design, So we're we're
talking about fashion, but we're talking about architecture and just
the specific like things that it like regionally inform design choices,
and it's really it was a real pleasure to put

(20:18):
together like they all are so many the storytelling never
ends here, as you guys know.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
So yeah, keep an eye out for it.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
Where we are we published monthly, so are we're in print,
but we're also online and have a great like e
newsletter for people who aren't able to get the print option.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
But yeah, we're real proud of that magazine.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Well, Jordan Lafontin, it's been a privilege to have you, Jordan.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Perhaps I'm sure you're thinking about it. But you know,
Hollywood are whatever. Any kind of movie producer or whatever
could take your book and they would make a great movie.
And we've seen movies like that where you see this
very interesting, exciting mystery movie, you know, thriller and all that,
and and then at the end it's actually shows the
real people and it turns out it's a true story. Yeah,

(21:03):
that would be a great movie.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
I would think, Yeah, I've heard a lot of that.
We I mean, I would certainly be open to it.
We are, it's you never know, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Okay, Now let me let me just a couple of
things is the fellow that they they think they caught
the guy who killed him, correct, correct, Okay, and he's
still doing time.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I wonder why I didn't get you know, the death
sentence or anything, but I guess there were other extendings.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Well, he was he was convicted on second degree, so
it was life without parole thea the death penalty wasn't
part of the conviction.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
So now one of my concerns are theories already on
this thing. Is this guy could possibly have been an
assassin going after your great grandfather for you know, maybe
his political competity. Who knows oneed him.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
That's one of the theories in the books.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah, yeah, and so uh and but he he used
a knife and he you know, tied him up and
stole their mind as a cover. So you wouldn't think
of him as an assassin, just some deadbeat robber.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
You know, Jordan, you've got a book full of conspiracy theories.
Hi's got you one five minutes after hearing about it.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
This is show.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
This shows you how alluring this book is.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
I carry a top secret clearance SCI. I was a
counter intelligence agent for US Army Special Forces. We're trying
to think like that.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Yeah, that was the first. That was always the first one.
That was the you know, people wondered if it was
a contract killing right away. That was one of the
first things.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, all right, check out the book, folks. You can
get at the Garden District Bookshop. You can give them
a call five oh four eight nine five twenty two
sixty six. That's eight nine five twenty two sixty six,
or go to Gardenbook District Bookshop dot com. The book
is Home of the Happy Murder on the Cajun Prairie.
Jordan Leahy Fontano has been joining us here on the
Founder Show. Signed copies are available at the Garden District

(22:55):
Bookshop and many other bookstores around the South. And congratulations
on your first book. We look forward to any ideas
what your next one's going to be.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Jordan.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
Thank you, guys.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
I'm throwing so many ideas at the wall, so we
don't know yet.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
We'll see, all.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
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With Christopher Tidmore and folks, We've got a lot to
talk about in cleaning, a breaking story about the United
States Senate race and a new candidate, Eric Scremat, who's
joining it. I get hot, hot, I get it out.
I do have to say our story last week talking
about WWOZ and the PBS funding has gotten so many
reactions online and I got you know, I have all

(26:15):
the responses, people saying I agree with you, and people
saying you're crazy. The most interesting, of course, crazy comment
came from one very errudite listener of this program, when
Elizabeth McHenry, who who wondered if I had, you know,
completely lost my mind. But I was like, you know,
this is OZ Christmas.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
One thing I didn't get mentioned about that is they're
alternative alternative ways of getting weather reports or you know,
emergency situations. And I bet you they already have those
in place in rural era.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
But they actually well, and look, I don't want to
get in a long argument about it. You can actually
go to my Facebook page Christopher Timore, Louisiana Weekly dot
net and read the story that precipitated our conversation about
this and the four hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Correct and what would sell this is if they just
went fifty fifty, well, if the half the shows were
conservative the other half, well, but it's all liberal.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
But first of all, believe it and you and as
I pointed out to Elizabeth, there was nothing on WWOZ
that had that thing. It's a music station. And second
and second of all, and second of all more importantly,
almost less than one percent of funding went to the news.
The money that was going to was to the transmitters
that came in. So this is not going to end

(27:25):
one little bit of the liberal media that people think of,
but it may actually impact. Four hundred thousand dollars cut
for WWOZ out of a two point three million dollar
budget is not an insignificant amount of money. It keeps
him on the air. But what you go to Louisiana
Weekly dot or to the Founders Show dot com and
you can find out both. The show that talks about
that dolls. But we got to get into the breaking
story of the day, and I was just on the phone.

(27:46):
I watched me do it with one Public Service Commissioner,
Eric Scramata, and he's going to join us in the
next couple of weeks. He was in the middle of
something because he's making his grand announcement and he is
joining the United States Senate race. You're like, well, okay,
that's great. So what No, it's a sign that Bill
Cassidy is in serious, serious danger.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
So he has betrayed his voters too many times.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Well, but you talk about betrayed, let me let me,
let me let me ask you this question. Not defending Cassidy.
I'm just I'm putting it a whole thing. Cassidy has
has a voting record with Donald Trump that's like about
almost one hundred percent. What he did was he voted
to convict on the impeachment. Now, now now that is

(28:29):
no evidence. Well, but I would we can. I'm not
going to re litigate the impeachment. We can actually later
in this program if you really want to. I want
to stick on this. I will say though, that what
has changed in this race, for those that have not
watched it is Jeff Landry's first move when he became
governor of Louisiana was to pass a law to restore
the closed primaries and congressional elections, so you actually have

(28:52):
just Republicans voting for Republicans, Democrats voting for Democrats, and
a general election and what that has done is two things.
One you have you can't rely on independence and moderates
the way you wear Cassidy was kind of coping to
maintain his position in the US Senate. But the second
reason is it's accelerated the timetable. So why are we
talking about Public Service Commissioner Eric Scremata getting in the

(29:15):
race right now, Because qualifying for this race is in December,
December seventeenth of this year, for an April primary for
an election that will happen in November. So that gives
you an idea of how long this change in this process.
It's making it over a year of changes across this status.

(29:35):
And why am I bringing up Scramata because previously Cassidy
had some pretty notable opponents. One of them is John Fleming,
the Treasurer of Louisiana. Another one is a state senator
from New Iberia, Blake mcguez. He also had others that
have talked about Joshua mooa Charles Holder who are not
as well known. But John Fleming got in this race

(29:56):
trying to take out him and really no disrespect to
his CA campaign is campaign manager who's an old friend
of mine. Jeff Carreer. But it's the fact of the
matter is he hasn't been moving very much in the polls.
He's not really gone anywhere. However, the antipathy of Donald
Trump to Bill Cassidy has gone in spades. It's all

(30:16):
over the place, and Trump has been recruiting any candidate
he could and for Eric Scrametta to get into this race.
Scrimetta is someone the President has great affection for. He's
been on this program for boys, one of the leading
experts on nuclear power in the country. He's the guy
who has been the biggest critic of some of these
unexpected brownouts and has been actually holding the utilities to account.

(30:38):
And more importantly, his district, a Public Service commissioner's district,
is the size of a congressional district, and he represents
everything from New Orleans to the North Shore. He basically
represents a twelve parish area, so he has a huge
footprint of people who have voted for him for the
last eighteen years. So Eric Scrimtta has this impresse. He's
well known Louisiana politics in a way that even Fleming,

(31:00):
to be honest with you, who was a congressman who
before he was a treasurer who was a congressman for
North Louisiana has not been able to resonate. You know,
this is one of the things that Cassidy, that Scrimmetta
getting into this race is the thing that Fleming doesn't,
which is his money. He has a lot of fundraising
from the utilities and a lot of personal resources to
be able to devote towards the US Senate race. Now,

(31:21):
why am I saying all of this is interesting because
this tells me something Two things. One, it tells me
that Cassidy is going to get even more opposition. And
for Blake mcguez, I really feel bad because he was
trying to run as the MAGA candidate. With Eric Scrametta
in the race, that's going to become very, very difficult
to do. But the other thing is it tells me
something interesting. Our good friend Tyler Bridges wrote an article

(31:45):
in the Timespeak Union. You may have seen that questions
whether Julia letlow will run for the US Senate. Now,
nobody knows what Letlow is going to do. She may
end up deciding to do it. But for those that
don't know Julia Letlowe, who's the congressman from northeastern Louisiana
basically Munroe to Baton Rouge, everywhere along the river. She's
the widow of the late Congressman Luke Letlow. She herself

(32:08):
is up to become president of LSU, and the governor
wants her to run for the Senate. The President wants
to the Senate, but the Governor would also like her
to be president LSU because it's you know, politically, it
would play pretty well his control of his alma mater.
So all of this is going on in the midst
of this race. The President would love Letlow. What I
think Scrameta getting this race is kind of acknowledgment that

(32:29):
Letlow is going to choose the LSU job. We don't
know if she will. She may change her mind, but
it's getting late in the game with the primary in December,
and there's you need to raise on a race like this.
The one thing Bill Cassidy has his money. He's got
over seven million dollars in the bank. That's very hard
to match. But it's a closed primary. It's a first
past the post close primary basically, and you're going to

(32:51):
how Eric Skrimtta plays into this. He's going to be
able to attack Cassidy and his weaknesses, because it's going
to be hard. On the one hand, Scrimetta has strong
relationships with the MAGA forces. He's well liked in the
party and by the President. On the other hand, you
can't dismiss him as just sort of some kind of
right wing, you know, talking point. He's one of the

(33:12):
smartest men in Louisiana politics. He's not only an expert
on energy issues, he's an expert issued foreign policy issues.
We had my am around the air and one time
we're talking about power and he transitions to this long
conversation if you remember, on Israel and Gaza and all this,
and and and and particularly the bombings that were going
on in Iran. Because he's one of the experts. He's
a foreign policy maven. And so it's going to be

(33:33):
very hard for Cassidy to dismiss him the way he
was dismissing Fleming right for all of his good side
and he was in Congress and all this. He doesn't
have quite the intellectual weight that Scrimetta has, nor the
common touch. Grametta is really good on the stump. So
we're going to see how all this plays out. But
it's it's a new the development of Eric Scrimetta joining
the race by a video that was released on Friday,

(33:55):
and that's coming out, you know, across the state. It's
a really powerful video. It basically shows it's kind of biographical.
It was done by Greg Bison Bison and A Bason
Creative Communications. It's a very powerful piece. We're gonna talk
to Eric Scumta coming up and see how this plays in.
But in our time remaining, I got to ask you

(34:16):
something high so you talk about conspiracy theories. I gotta
ask you this question because I've been look folks, as
anybody who knows me, I've been exhausted with the whole
question of the Epstein list. I've just been tired. I
don't want to talk about everybody else is talking about it,
but I have to tell you. The people that are
coming out that are on why won't the President release

(34:38):
the list and who are willing to vote in an
exit petition in the US House of Representatives are not
liberal or moderate members of the GOP. There's some of
the core members of the VAGA movement. Mike Johnson, our
own Louisiana speaker, gabbled the place out of or out
of session, because he didn't want this vote to come in.

(35:00):
He came out and basically said it. He wasn't really
a secret. I didn't want this vote because he was
going to lose it. He was going to lose it
with over twenty plus Republican votes at the very least,
despite the President daring. So I got to ask you
a question. You've been talking about Epstein for what on
this program A long time?

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yes, could start it started?

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah, I mean basically you've been one of the people
evil screaming about releases.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
I work with little kids. Yeah, and those were his target.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
No, he was a pedophil I mean.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
And no, he's a very evil man and everything needs
to come out about it. But there has to be
a way that it comes out so it doesn't spoil
the case. But it's a complex. It's dead, Christopher, it
doesn't matter leans well, it doesn't matter. Will there can
be criminal charges against his connections. Aren't you so his associates?

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Aren't you a little disappointed? I mean, apparently I would
like it all.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
To come out right now, but it may be that
so they don't spoil the case, spoil the case against
who against people they would want to indict.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Okay, how about this the Wall Street Journal. And this
is the Wall Street Journal. This is not some left
wing publication.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Okay, it leans to the left.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
The Wall Street Journal. Yes, no, the murderch Press. I'm sorry,
it doesn't. It does not. I mean, wait, okay, here's
the thing. It comes out a meeting of Kim Bondi,
Attorney General, who meets with the president. And according to
the report of this meeting, she says, mister President, you're
on the list multiple times. Now, I don't know if

(36:28):
this is Look, I'm not saying this is a holy
writ This is what the journal is reporting. And when
that happened. That the implication. I'm not saying he did
anything wrong. The implication though, that Donald Trump went to
multiple times, which is what the list says. You know,
Epstein's pedophilia, paradise, whatever the hell it was, that the
island in the American Virgin Islands, that it's private island,

(36:51):
is something that Donald Trump doesn't want released. Now, you
gotta admit that this is starting. Donald Trump's attacking his
own base and some of his closest supporters over all
this and you got it. I've been asking this question
of you forever aren't you a little aggravated that he
hasn't released the list.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
No, I'll explain to you why, Christopher. And not only that. Look,
this guy was working the rich and the famous in
New York, all around the world, but especially in New York.
He was headquartered in New York. You know, if Trump
went to anything he had, he went once to every
hundred times. The Clintons went, and they were going to
the ranch out in the West that he had, going
a dude ranch. So uh, you know it's it's gonna

(37:35):
There are a lot of people involved with us saying
he was he was a a money manager supposedly when
he was and he had a lot of rich people
letting him manage it some of their money. We don't
know the relationship Clinton. We do know this. So he
was done to Largo with Trump, and when Trump found
out what he was doing, he kicked him out and
he really did.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
You see the fiftieth birthday letter? What did you see
the fiftieth birthday letter?

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Tell us about it, Christopher.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
I don't know, if I want to Unfamily Radio what
Trump did. What Trump drew on the letter the woman
and where he put where her privates would be Christopher.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Oh, come on, we know Wait did he write that letter?

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yes, he wrote it personally. No, it's been admitted he
wrote it. He signed it, Donald Trump, he did it.
I mean, this is the why I'm getting You know,
chrisgated this.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Okay, this way only something that has to go in
an evidence book, which means it has to be examined
and find out if it's a forger. It's a real thing.
You don't know that.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
You don't know that right now we actually know for
a fact.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Trump has been framed so many times, so many absurd things,
including the usual Russia Russia hoax that do you still
believe in the Russia hoaks?

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Okay, let me ask you.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
The last time I talked to you about it, you
said you believed in it. Okay, you're still right now,
still believe in it? Yes?

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Or no?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
That that Trump was elected by the Russians, that there
was an FSF operation.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
No, I was.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
I was skeptical around it at the time. I was
very worried and I thought it needed to be investigated.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
And you know what, Chris for it. You told me
his son was going to jail over it.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
You told me, No, I did not say that you
did say that you did. What I said was what
I and you're misremembering it. What I said was that
there was a suspicious deal to Eric, that Eric Trump,
not Donald Junior, was involved with, having to do with
a piece of real estate and a a loan that
came from Saudi Arabia to be able to do it.

(39:23):
That his brother, his brother in law's family, Kirshner, was
trying to refinance this building, and that there was true
suspicions of violating international that there's an act.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
There was nothing to it, and there's still an investigation.
That there's so many false claims. Again, Okay, Trump, there's
just so many. Now let me ask you a question.
Many false claims.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
So Donald Trump, in the midst of all these calls
from Republicans to release the list, comes out the other
day and he says that Barack Obama is guilty of treason.
He manipulated twenty sixteen election, which really would have been
interesting considering Trump's electoral vote landslide. And he manipulated the

(40:07):
twenty twenty election, which would have been incredible considering Trump
was the one in power and you'd have to be
the most powerful man in the multiverse. So you're saying
all these things about Donald Trump that.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
We've running the shadow government, which also he kept all
of Obama's key people were in Biden's White House, and
he set up an entire operation trumpsty in Washington, d C.
To continue to run all these weaponized agencies that he
had weaponized.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Okay, let me ask you, could you speculate for just
a moment that maybe Donald Trump suddenly out of nowhere
brings up these trees and allegations right in the middle
when Republicans are attacking those allegations for years now.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
This is not a new thing.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
You seriously believe the president, either president, any president of
the United States, is guilty of treason.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Absolutely, really, yes, I do, there's no question.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
And you don't, and you're not concerned.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Flooding the country with illegal aliens is an act of
trees and to take over the vote to win every
election from now for that year.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
That's not actually what Trump called And by the way.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
And Obama was big time behind that in the Biden administration.
Do you not floting the Biden administration? Folks? Again, so
you're willing to Biden so you will know the gods
border on zombie.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Okay, so you're you're willing to call Barack Obama trader.
You're not willing to call out Trump for not doing
what he promised to do, which was to release a
list when he's I don't know. He said he'd solve
the Ukraine war and at the right time, at the
right time.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
It's got to be the right time.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
When is the right time?

Speaker 3 (41:46):
You know, I don't know all the details of this.
I don't have I'm not privy. I don't have a
clearance to get in there and see all the stuff
going on.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
A good friend of a good friend of MI, Mike
dam the state representative. He says, you know, in twenty
twenty two, I oppose Biden. I demanded they release the list.
You know what, in twenty twenty five, I still want
to release the list, and he's about I want.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
To release the list.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Well, then, why.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
How do you want you? Christopher? There there it's a complex.
There's you know, how many people were involved in all
of this, really billions of people, that's right, So, uh,
you know, half the Hollywood crowd just to start off with.
So if they're going to be real criminal charges brought here,
you have to really handle this with kid gloves, you
have to be cautious about how you release stuff. Otherwise

(42:31):
they could claim it's mistrial, the jury was prejudiced against him,
and all that from releasing information that should not have
been released. Now the lawyers can tell you all about that, Christopher.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Okay, all right, all right, Well there is no trial
going on, so I know that what the are you're talking.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
About, but there's hopefully I'm hoping there'll be a trial.
I think a lot of people want to see your trial.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
All right, folks, We're also going to be going into
very quick If you haven't seen the new polls in
the mayor's race that Ron Fouchet did, it puts a
lindim rate at forty seven percent. It puts Oliver Thomas
though in Royce duplessis effectively tied within the margin era
at sixteen and fourteen percent. Thomas has fallen. So we
now actually have a horse race, and that we didn't
have before. We're going to have each of the candidates

(43:13):
on next in about four weeks. He and I will
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It is open to the public. It is not going
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at the Lakefront Airport's Walnut Room. It's a huge room
and we're going to be actual airport and we're going

(43:35):
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Speaker 3 (46:28):
Well, folks, we're back and you are listening to the
Founder's Show, the voice of the Founding Fathers. It's Chaplin Hi, McHenry,
And it's not time for us to go into our
chaplain bah bah patriotic moment. We just take a brief
moment to remind you of the biblical foundations of our country,
our Judeo Christian jurisprudence. A little history lesson, and today
I want to talk about you know, we had a
great earlier part of the show about a great trial,

(46:53):
probably an assassination, quite a story, and so I wanted
to just give you something having to do with legal things.
And here's a quote from Yale Law School seventeen forty
five from their foundational statement, all scholars shall live religious,
godly and blameless lies according to the rules of God's Word.

(47:15):
That means the Bible, diligently reading the Holy Scriptures, the
Fountain of Light and truth, and constantly attend upon all
the duties of religion, both in public and secret. Think
of that, it's quite clear according to the rules of
Yale Law School that the Bible is the foundation of
our law and our behavior. Of course, they make sure

(47:37):
that comes into the picture here. So, folks, doesn't it
make sense that our founding fathers, at least the lawyers,
because all the various colleges had those similar statements. Doesn't
it make sense that they've certainly had a biblical foundation
upon which they were making their decisions. Of course it does.
We're very blessed that God gave us such a foundation
for this country, you know, and that's very important for

(48:00):
a nation. But you know, you have things broken up
into different groups. You have nations, you have families, you
have ethnic groups, you have different cultural persuasions, etc. Etc.
But when it comes down to you, you just because
your country may be a godly country, or you go
to a great church or whatever, or your father could
have been Billy Graham, that doesn't guarantee you that you

(48:22):
have your own biblical foundation. And that biblical foundation is
the Lord Jesus Christ. He is called the Word of
God in the Bible, So that means if you're really
into the Bible, that means you're into Jesus. And you
got to be into Jesus not just by knowing about him,
but by knowing him and knowing that He knows you.
You can have memorized the Bible, be the greatest biblical

(48:44):
pature they ever lived, and still dye and go to
hell because you never had Jesus as your personal friend
savior God. You never did. You got that close and
never went the full measure. Now I'm going to show
you how you can right now as we now go
into our chapel by by a gospel moment. Well, I'm
just take a brief, brief moment to show you how
you can know that you know that you know you
go into heaven when you die. Jesus is your personal

(49:06):
savior and best friend. And it goes like this. The
Bible says, for God's soul love the world. That's you,
that's everybody that he gave his only begotten son. That's
the Lord Jesus Christ. He gave his only begotten son.
And by the way, Jesus is all the way God,
and all the way man, one hundred percent God percent man, perfect, God,
perfect man, never sin. He gave his only begotten son,

(49:27):
that whosoever that's you again believeth in him. What does
that mean? Believeth in him? I mean, come on, I
just believe he's there. You got to know what it means.
So when you go into that part of the passage
that's John three point sixteen, you'll find that believeth in
Him means believing in the Gospel. The scripture says, the
Gospel is the power of God into salvation to whosoever

(49:47):
believeth The scripture says, for I declare to you the
Gospel that Christ died for all of our sins according
to the scripture, that he was buried in that he
rose from the dead. According to the scripture. When it
says all of our sins, that means all your sins
in the hey you're born, to the day you die,
your times, to your great sins. Doesn't matter what you did,
it's all covered by the blood. The Bible says, it's
blood wash them all the way. And so it says

(50:08):
that who's over believed in him. That's what you have
to believe that Jesus died for all your sins is
barter and Rose is dead, and that's your only trust
that who'sover believeth in him, shall not perish and not
go to hell, but have everlasting life. Folks, if you've
never done that before, you need to do it now.
You need to believe that you can't save yourself. It
starts with that. That's called repentance. That you're never going

(50:28):
to be good enough, smart enough for love, stuff, holy enough,
rich enough, whatever it is, charming enough to get you
to qualify you. No, you can do nothing. You're a
complete loser. When you see yourself as a total loser
that God sees you as being, then you are ready
to put faith alone in Christ alone and you will
be born again. That means you're dead and dine spirit
will become fully alive. If you've never done that before,

(50:48):
do it now. Don't wait till it's too late. And
like the Word of God says, now today is a
day of salvation. Well, folks, the day of salvation comes
in many ways, and in the end it's coming with
literally Jesus coming back to this earth to gather his people.
Which if you are born again his child, that means
you'll be in that number, like the song says from

(51:09):
the Saints go March and I want to be in
that number. You'll be in that number. He's coming back soon, folks.
The Bible gives us so much information on this. I'm
talking about tons and tons and tons of information on it.
There are over two hundred prophecies about Jesus the second coming.
One of them was earthquakes and volcanoes. Do you realize
there is right now in eruption, is in the past
few months of earthquakes and volcanoes going off all around

(51:30):
the world right now, it's happening right now. It's preponderant.
It's like already doubled or tripled the number. And the
numbers have been going up since the seventies, nineteen seventies,
radically going up to where now we're having several thousand
percent more earthquakes and volcanoes and we had one hundred
years ago. That sign is coming true for us right

(51:51):
in front of us right now, folks. We're close. We're
very close. Jesus is coming back soon, So get ready
for it. The only way you can get ready. You
need him as your bunker, you need him as your
safe house. And the way that works is trust him
as your savior. Trust him as your savior, and then
you can know for sure youre going to heaven. When
you die, you heaven bound and your help proved. Don't

(52:15):
miss out on the greatest opportunity of your life. With
childlike faith, all you have to do is believe that
Jesus is God. He is your savior. He washed away
all your sin with his blood. The scripture says, he
that knew no sin. That's the Lord Jesus Christ was
made sin that you might be made the righteousness of
God in him. Think of it. He takes all your

(52:35):
evil and he turns himself into it so he can
fully deal with it and pay for it. You know,
it's like a judge when you're brought before the court
a murderer and the judge passes the sentence, but before
he names the guilty person, he walks down and takes
a sentence himself in your place. That's what Jesus did.
If you've never done that before, do it now. Don't wait, folks,

(52:57):
do it now, Thanks so very much. It's Chap and
I making re sign off with the founder show and
armand Saint Martin singing a creole goodbye, God bless Allen.

Speaker 7 (53:08):
Does this have to be the end of the nerd?

Speaker 2 (53:13):
You know I love you.

Speaker 7 (53:15):
In the pamon land, I can see across the million stars.
When I look in, we can posey it's the sun time.

(53:37):
I suppose you couldn't call little cray. If we take
just a little little longer to see our good night,
they call it creel good
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