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May 10, 2024 54 mins
Hy and Christopher examine how Gov. Jeff Landry’s potential constitutional convention faces a roadblock in the State Senate. And even if it does pass, in time for an August meeting, what about spending reform?  We have a report from Colorado about their TABOR which is allowing a major property tax cut. So why isn’t the upcoming convention including some form of constitutional restriction on spending as well?

We also talk about Mike Johnson’s survival as Speaker, and the (surprisingly ) related issue of the second African-American district in Louisiana not passing legal muster. Will the legislature be able to draw a new Black-majority district in two weeks?  And if they can’t, does that mean Garrett Graves has another shot reelection in his safe GOP seat?  And, ironically, could that victory be the only way that Johnson remains US House Speaker after the November elections?

Finally, we broadcast live from the Rocky Mountaineer, the trans-mountain train now traveling regularly from Moab to Denver, and explain how luxury passenger rail service is being reinvented by a private company —just in time for the 250th anniversary of the nation!  Take a look at the train in motion through the snowy Rockies last week on Christopher’s Facebook page!
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Battles. The politicians addressed, thedigitators and magicians choose to see the money.
They just don't. There's nothing tofill the holes while then are filling
their pockets bi holes, the politiciansbouncing down the road. Every body's with

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sh for no more corruption and dysfunction. It's gonna take me. Divine its
avention, and God bless you allout there. You are now listening to
the founders. So the voice ofthe founding fathers, You're Founding Fathers coming
to you deep within the bowels ofthose mystic and cryptic alligator swamps of the

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Big Easy, that old Crescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana, and high
up on top of that old libertycypress tree draped in Spanish man is none
other then you have spend Gary Baybayall the Republic chaplain Hi mc henry,
who Christopher Tidmurry, a roving reporter, resident radical moderate and associate editor of

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the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at Louisiana Weeklydot net, and H. I've been
riding high on the rails between Moaband Denver, Colorado, currently in Colorado
Springs. I rode the fantastic RockyMountaineer, the new train passenger train that
does scenic voyages through the Red Rocksfrom moab At Arches and canyon lands to

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the Rockies and the highest crossing atnine thousand, one hundred feet in the
Moffat Tunnel going into Denver. Itis one of the most extraordinary trips.
And I did it in May whenthere was an unseasonably cold and actually beautiful
snow flurry over the Rockies. AndI'll talk about that a little bit later
in the show. But as Igot into Denver, I took up a
copy of the Denver Posts and thelegislature Democratic Governor Jared Polus democratically controlled legislature.

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But this is Colorado, the landof the taxpayer Bill of Rights that
limits spending increases to the rate ofinflation. And what are they talking about.
They are talking about a massive propertytax cut at the state level.
Obviously they live a state property tax. We do not in Louisiana. But
they're talking about tax cuts because theysaid, you know, under Taber,

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we have to return the money Paer'srebates, so we might as well really
cut taxes. Jared Polis is differentfrom many in the Democratic Party. God
I wish you were president. Healways running, at least because he's someone
who believes that smaller government, lessregulation, and lower taxes is the way
to go. He's a libertarian inthe true sense of the word. He

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could easily be the libertarian president.And he's an extraordinary guy, and he
has led a bipartisan coalition in illelegislaturecut taxes for everybody. Obviously, property
taxes fallen homeowners, so you cutit, it tends to up the middle
class more. But what I findabout this conversation that's interesting is we're about

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if it gets to the legislature totry to call a constitutional convention, and
getting through the legislature is a bigif, as we'll talk about a second.
But the fact of the matter isone thing that's not being brought up,
and the call for it is Louisiana'saddiction to spending. Colorado dealt with
us in the nineteen nineties. Itwas under a Republican governor, but it's

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actually had bipartisan support, generally calledthe taxpayer Bill of Rights. Spending could
not increase more than the rate ofinflation. If there's extra revenue, it
had to be rebated back to thepeople. They adjusted it somewhat in the
early two thousands to allow for highereducations to spending so they could give teachers
a pay raise. But for themost part it's held in Colorado. Quote

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liberal Colorado, Democratic. Colorado hasone of the most pro business environments in
the country because of it. Yethere we are in Louisiana, Republican conservative
Louisiana, and all we do israise spending, albeit many cases for laudable
purposes. But what we do isray spending. We do not have a
constitutional vehicle to limit spending increases tothe rate of inflation or double the rate

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inflation, or triple the rate ofinflation. No, we went from when
I started on the radio a sevenbillion dollar budget to a thirty four billion
dollar budget practically after this cycle.Some of that is federal spending, obviously,
a good bit of its medicaid spending. It's not all Louisiana tax dollars.
But the fact of the matter iswe do have a spending addiction in

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Louisiana. And if we ever reallywant to get serious about being competitive,
like Colorado, we ought to takea page from Colorado. Maybe we took
a page with drug legalization or marijuanalegalization. Maybe it's time to take a
page for spending restraint and why GovernorJeff Landry, the self professed conservative,

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has not uttered a word about lowerspending. Not really that bothers me,
and why it's not being talked aboutfor convention tactic. In fact, what
did we talk about? We tookthe homestead exemption, Okay, that's popular
Louisiana, and the minimum foundation formulaoff the table. Well, education funding
is a huge part of our budget. I'm all for paying the teachers more,
but how are we doing this?All of this should be in discussion,

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but right now for constitutional convention thatis being rushed into it definitely is
not your thoughts high, Yes,Christopher, my meditations and contemplations and reverberations
on this are mammoth. Yes,I've got many thoughts from In fact,
my mind is pregnant, full term, pregnant with thoughts. However, time

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does not allow, as we allknow, for me to give you the
full measure of my thoughts on this. But yeah, it's the same,
Christopher. It's like, you know, I've I did addiction counseling for fifteen
years, and maybe we need toput all of our politicians and bureaucrats into
serious rehabilitation so they can learn toovercome their their addictions, especially their their

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primary addiction. And that it's spending, as you just brought it so well
brought out. Yeah, we needto get a handle on it. I
mean, you know, businesses thathave good budgets, reasonable responsible, tight
budgets, let's say, and keepand hold to them are businesses that succeed
so much more than those that don't. And government is a business. I

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mean, you've got to pay thebills in government. You got to manage
it just like you'd run a business. And many times because the profits,
if you will, are guaranteed,the revenues are guaranteed through taxes, that
many times makes the politicians very lazyand irresponsible about it because they don't,
you know, they're going to makeit whether no matter what happens, they're
going to make it. It's howthey I think, it's how they see

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it, and they don't realize orthey aren't. They're really not caring on
the damage it does to their theirpeople. We the people so to speak,
So we we the people need torise up and uh do something to
try to get our politicians to startbehaving and spending our money wisely, and
uh, to get make good budgetsand stick to it and and learn how

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to control the costs, just likeour federal government for too long now has
been out of control as far usspending money, I mean, our federal
government. It literally it spends moneylike not like a drunken sale or like
a drunken navy. It's it's it'sphenomenal. And so all these government officials,
politicians, bureaucrats, whatever, Uh, we need to hold them very

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accountable for their irresponsible way of handlingmoney. And of course we do that
at the ballot box, but wereally need to have movements going that would
you know, movements that can putpressure on politicians. That's what we need,
we really do. And I don'tthink we can trust our individual parties
to do it they because they don'tdo it. So maybe we just need

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to start some serious, serious movements. I know they're some secessionist movements happening
around the country that have to dowith this very issue. And we know
that when the South seceded from theUnion, its seceded over money. Literally,
the South was being taxed off thecharts. We were paying we had
one fourth of population in America,and back in eighteen sixty eighteen fifty nine,

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however, the South was paying somewherebetween eighty to ninety percent of all
taxes in America, and ninety percentof those tax revenues went to the North.
We didn't get our share of it, so to speak, which would
have meant we're paying eighty percent.We should have got eighty percent of the
money for infrastructure in the South.It's all going to the North, basically

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through the ballot box and through abriefcase, through legislative action. The North
was looting the South in what appearedto be a very legal way of doing
but certainly a very unethical way ofdoing it, and it finally drove the
South to secede from the Union.The last battle fought that determined secession was

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over what was known as a moraltax, and it was fought very aggressively,
and it went on and on andon, and they couldn't resolve it.
And so they actually when they endedCongress that year, rather than going
home, they all went across thestreet because most of them were trying to
save the union North end South andtry to work it out and they just

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couldn't work it out. They metthem in the Willet Hotel right across the
street from the Capitol, and theyfought it out for two more weeks,
resolved nothing. The Southern States wenthome and seceded from the Union through legal,
constitutionally legal, peaceful elections. Andit was a legal secession. You
could still do it to this day. It's in the constitution. So if

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you have any doubts about that,I direct you to a great speech made
way back then, you know,like in the eighteen forties, I believe
it was eighteen fifties, early eighteenfifties by a little unknown congressman had one
term and he gave probably the greatestdefense. He was a thief, was
really a great lawyer, a wellknown, prominent lawyer, and he gave
a great defense for secession. Youmay remember his name, Abraham Lincoln.

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Pretty interesting, folks. History isvery interesting. And by the way,
the last man standing in that lastbattle to save the Union was a man
who was a very strong Unionist andhe'd always been able to compromise and get
people to get along and work together. He walked out of that meeting,
that final meeting, very discouraged,swearing he would never involve himself with politics

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to getting to go home, livedthe rest of his life on his farm
and work for you for changes ingovernment from just as a farmer. And
you know that man's name was JeffersonDavis. Pretty interesting history again, isn't
it? Folks? History is interesting. But let's pray we don't end up
in a secession again. Let's praythat we can just talk since into our

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politicians and make them behave all right, Christopher, I'm looking forward to what
the next topic it's going to be. Now, Christopher, before we go
to put you back on the microphone, I just have a question for you.
We've talked about this in the pasta few of the past shows,
and it has to do with thatstrange amphibian creature that lurks in our political

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swamps, slithering around doing weird andstrange things. That's right, I'm talking
about jerrymanders that looks like the originalone looked like a salamander. So,
Christopher, tell us you got anyupdates on the redistricting of Louisiana and other
parts of the Union. Well,Hi, Digging a little deeper into the

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Constitual Convention, controversy. The conventiondid pass the House with a narrow majority,
but only after the date starting dateof the convention was moved to August
first. This was always one ofthe problems with the idea of the convention,
and the governor wanted to make sureeverything was done in the last couple

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of weeks of this legislative session.With everything else on the table, it
was going to be a prodigious task. Now it's moved to August one,
which does mean the governor probably willnot be able to get his changes on
the November ballot. It's still theoreticallypossible, but it's a hard pull,
especially since the other argument that isbeing made, and we'll talk about this

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in a second, the idea ofthe legislature drawing another African American district.
Since that has been struck down.The argument is it can't be done because
of the May election. They haveto have an end by May fifteenth.
All of this controversy circulating, butin the costitial mention controversy, it would

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start in August one, but theSenate has to go along with this,
and the Senate, frankly, isnot all that enthusiastic. It's been interesting
to watch Senate President Cameron Henry talkto the press about this. And Henry's
an ally of the Landry administration,a conservative Republican who have known very very
well for almost twenty years. Andhe said, he told Stephanie Grace and

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Nola dot Com, I don't thinkit's on track or off track. In
other words, he's not entirely surehow this is going to get through the
Senate. But the part is thatthe senators are kind of miffed. The
constitutional convention would be all one hundredand forty four members of the legislature plus
twenty seven people appointed by the governor. But what they would all meet in

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one chamber, probably the House.What that means, though, is that
the Senators would have equal weighted votesto the House members, not as if
there were two chambers. It passesthe House then goes to the Senate,
but that senators are no more specialthan House members. There's no joint chamber
review. It's just one constitutional conventionchamber. Senators don't like to lose that

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kind of fluents. Remember, senatorscan pass constitutional amendments once the House does
it in a normal session or aspecial session or what have you. And
so the structure of this constitutional conventionis getting problematic. Critics of it are
saying it doesn't represent enough geographic ordemographic differences. With the governor's appointments.

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The governor is tending to point formerlegislators and prominent business and political figures,
and there are African Americans in thatmix, but it's not exactly demographically representative
of the state. So all ofthis is going on. We don't know
if we're going to have a constitutioninvention as this show goes to press on

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Friday morning, but we wait tosee whether or not this is going to
happen. It's touch and go atthis point, and whether or not this
comes to pass remains to be seeingyour thoughts on this, Christophone. We
know you're a great tour guide asyou're on doing tours right now out west,
but you have just given us aremarkable tour through the constitutional halls of

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our Louisiana State Legislature to talk abouta new constitution that, of course,
our wonderful and new great governor,constitutional conservative governor has helped drive and bring
about a new constitution that will improvean upgrade the one we have right now.
And so that's going to be veryinteresting to see how it all works

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out. And you know, likeyou said, we're just waiting. We're
waiting with bated breath. Where willwe go? Are they really going to
make changes that will make a hugedifference, or are they going to do
something to affect our budgets that willkeep our spending under control. Time will
tell One good way of doing thisis call your legislature. All y'all out
there, call your legislatures and legislatorsand push them. Tell them you want

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good government. Tell them you wantthem to stop wasting our money, and
that we need a good a clearbudget that holds their feet to the fire
where they will do the right thingwith our money and spend it wisely.
That's what we need. We needwisdom and how we manage our money.
You know, if that had happened, like I said, was telling you
earlier about doing the war between theStates, we would have never had that

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terrible war, what a horrendous Overseven hundred thousand men gave their lives,
and that were mainly men, butof course there were a lot of rapings
and murders of the innocent civilian bythe Yankee troops. That's true. The
greatest war crimes ever committed in thehistory of America were committed on Southern soil
by Yankee federal troops. Astounding warcrimes. I mean, that ranked the

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very top of war crimes throughout thehistory of the world. It's amazing what
the Northern troops did to the South. And I'm talking about civilian positions.
I'm talking about fighting, you know, military targets. I'm talking about civilian
targets. I'm talking about non combatantsthat the North attacked. And just you
know, Sherman's totally called a totalwar was one of the you know,

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those bloody campaigns that put attacked soaggressively. In fact, the greatest war
crime all the greatest massacre, waswhen when he turned his troops loose on
Columbia, South Carolina, and forall night long they looted, they raped,
they murdered, and they burned halfthe city down. I mean,
it's uncanny what they did in Columbia. So folks, we don't want that

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happening again in America. In fact, if you've not seen the movie Civil
War, it might be worth goingto see it because it gives you an
idea of just how terrible this isand should put in all of our hearts
and minds. We don't want thatin America. We want peaceful resolutions.
We don't want to, you know, take up arms and go to war

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against ourselves. That's the last thingthis country needs. So you know,
I've been in war. I knowhow terrible it is. That's the last
thing I think every veteran wants tosee is a war, because we know
we've been in them, we knowhow horrible they are, how terrible they
are, and it's pretty much thelast thing every good veteran ever wants to
see. However, I do haveto say full disclosure here, true confession

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that if you know, if Iwas active, if I was called up,
let's say, at my ancient age, I don't think that will ever
happen, but let's just say ithappened. Let's say I was more than
an able body and ready to go, and I was called up for some
more shame on me. I'd probablyI would probably head to the armory yesterday
to make sure I was there forthe for the combat action, if you

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will. And yet I do hatewar, and I hope it. I
can't wait for Jesus to come backbecause he's gonna end all war. Believe
me, I think that's one ofthe most beloved verses in the Bible for
all combat veterans, that the manwill make war no more, and the
man will not learn the art ofwar. We will beat our plows,
and we will beat our swords intoplowshares, and our spears into pruning hooks.

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That's gonna be the day, folks, and that day is coming soon.
It's coming very soon. All thesigns are telling us that right now.
Well, chrispher I want I'm waitingnow, very excited about that.
And by the way, thanks againfor the guided tour of our swamp,
our political swamp. I know you'reusually in the mountains, but this time
you took us through the swamp,the political swamp, and so I know
you got some more tours for us. I'm looking forward to what the next

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topic is. So folks, puton your hit boots, your waiters,
get ready for some more political swamp. I think Christopher's got the rest of
that swamp tour waiting for us rightnow. As we noted Hi in a
two to one finding the Court ofAppeals throughout Governor Landry's redrawn a congressional map
that drew a second congressional district fromBaton Rouge to Shreeport. They threw it

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out saying based it was too muchbased on race, that race cannot be
the sole factor. And I willadmit this was a congressional district that would
make Elbridge, Gary proud of havinginvented the gerrymander. It was. It
looked like a salmon, the inspirationfor the word. It literally went from

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the north baton Y suburbs over throughOpelousa's Lafayette and then Uptish Report in an
area of impenetrals, both swamps connectedwith no roads. It was an experience.
But the idea of a second AfricanAmerican district is not dead. It's
a court mandate. It has notbeen removed by Judge Shelley Dick. And

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so one of the major differences inimprovements that must happen is what's going to
happen next? What does that mean? Well, theoretically, the Secretary of
State, Nancy Landry, has comeout and said you have to have a
redrawn map by May fifteenth, orwe cannot use any map that exists.

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This has led a judge to orderthe legislature to redraw map before the end
of the session. Not like there'snothing else going on, and no one's
really sure what happens next because legislatureis not going to do that. They're
going to find it. They're goingto appeal this to the Supreme Court,
and short of a Supreme Court ruling, how the lines of the district's rule

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for the fall remains to be seen. The only person that's really happy about
this is Garrett Graves and particularly hisallies in the Republican National Committee. What
do I mean by that, Well, the districts were drawn in such a
way, very consciously by Governor JeffLandry to get rid of his big political

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rival, Garrett Graves, with atacit support of Steve Scalise. Graves was
very slow to support Scalise's bid forSpeaker, and so all of this comes
down to what happens next. There'sno guarantee, however, that the districts,
just because you threw out the AfricanAmerican map that will keep the current
districts. Technically those have been abandoned. The twenty twenty two districts. They

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do not have a force of lawsso the legislature would have to act on
that as well. And it's apretty hard argument to make that you can't
draw the districts in a fifth whenyou have a conscial convention in August where
they will try to get something onthe ballot for November. You're seeing the
disconnect and the logic. If youcan have a constitutional convention in August and
get something about in November, youcan't draw maps in May or June to

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get something on the ballot to doqualifying in August. It doesn't work.
However, there is a major pushon the GOP to basically stall this,
and it has to do with thefact that Republicans are going to lose a
seat in Alabama and Georgia because ofredrawn seats. They're going even if Trump
wins into a tough electric station,so with a two seat majority, effectively

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right now, losing a Republican safeseat is something that many in Washington refuse
to contemplate because it might mean Publicancontrolled House looked forward to this entire incident
being fought off for the next fewmonths and finally finding a way that nothing

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changes, and the person who's discontentedis Jeff Landry, who's going to have
to put up with Gary Graves foranother two years. Of course, there
is an easy solution here. Louisianacould adopt a map very similar to what
we just redrew for the Louisiana SupremeCourt, where there is an African American
district spreading up the Mississippi River fromBaton Rouge to Monroe, connecting the historically

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African American communities. That is whatwe literally just redrew to add a second
Black district to the Supreme Court.Obviously they're seven rather than six seeds.
We can't use the exact map.But the point of that is it's not
rocket science to draw this map,so it's not a blatant gerrymander. What
it will do is make sure thatCongresswoman Julia Letlow, the widow of the

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Lake Lutletlow, is drawn out ofout of office. And because of that,
that's something that a lot of Republicanswill not contemplate, no matter how
logical the map is. Your thoughtsright, well, very fascinating, Christopher.
And like the old saying goes,politics makes for strange bedfellows, aren't
we seeing it here? It neverfails. The weird and crazy things that

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go on in the political world.Very interesting, great information, Christopher.
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But Hi, we got a lotto talk about. Oh yes,
Christopher, we most certainly have awhole lot to talk about. But this
time I think it's time to geta guided tour through the greatest swamp of

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all, the DC swamp, youknow, up there in Washington, our
capital city for America, And sothings have been pretty hot this week.
We've had some real controversy. Iknow you've you've got some great information on
it, so please share that withus about what's happening in the old town
tonight and today up there in OldWashington, d C. Take it away,

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Christopher. Of course, the bignews this week and out of Washington
was Mike Johnson survived overwhelmed effectively.There were seven people who supported Marjorie Taylor
Green's effort to vacate the speakership,not literally didn't go to a vote.

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As soon as She introduced the legislationon Wednesday, which was a little surprising
because most people thought she was goingto defer it. At President Trump had
personally interceded, asking her to TheMajority Leader, Steve Scalise moved a table
the legislation and had overwhelming support fromDemocrats Republicans, But there were seven members

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of the Republican caucus who did notsupport either tabling it or voting for and
against it. And those were theones who probably would have voted to de
vacate the speakership. So we nowknow that there's seven people discontented with Mike

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Johnson. The Democrats were not happythat Johnson was trying to woo Marjorie Taylergreen
into silence into not taking this step. In fact, they said any further
meetings with her, they might notsave him Mike Johnson next time. For
now, the speaker is secure atleast for another couple of months, hopefully

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through the election from a standpoint ofstability. His allies hope. But the
question is about a GOP caucus.What is the objective? Johnson, when
he met with Green, basically promisedher every introducing legislation for every major Freedom

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Party hot button issue. This includedsupporting a federal ID requirement for voting and
supporting at an immigration changes, thingsthat would never pass the Senate, but
he was willing to pretty much doeverything. The big support was that if

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there's no budget in place by thethirtieth of September, that he would support
a continuing resolution with a one percentacross the board cut. It didn't matter
that he was on board. Theheresy of having supported money for Ukraine.
For Ukraine was what was going tocall him this and Green was very clear

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even if he had had the strongestimmigration restrictions on earth as part of that
bill, remember that was what manyRepublicans were calling for immigration restrictions for the
Ukraine, she would have still votedto vacate the speakership. The point being
that any support for Ukraine seems tobecome an aninthma in some circles of the

(31:56):
right and this maybe you can expplaying this high to me, but it
boils down to I can get whyyou know you want to use the Ukraine
vote to put money for the border. I thought it was short sighted,
but I understood the logic of it, and I don't have a moral problem
with it. The fact is opposingVladimir Putin and his imperial ambitions in Ukraine

(32:22):
would be something that Ron Reagan did. This is a traditional Republican position,
and the fact is not one Americanlife is being risked, and we are
simultaneously We've taken out over five thousandRussian tanks, over half a million Russian
soldiers, we are vaulting, We'retaking down a lot of their industry for

(32:46):
a price of let's say, totallynone. With sixty billion in the package,
we will spend about ninety nine billiondollars for the Ukraine War. Nine
nine billion dollars is ten percent ofour yearly military budget total. That's over

(33:07):
the last three or four years ouryear and ninety nine billion dollars. We
have achieved more than the United Statesmilitary achieved against the Russians for the entire
Cold War. They're having to literallyuse Russian tanks from the nineteen fifties because
they're running out of tanks. Thisis because this is the biggest bang for

(33:29):
your buck in geopolitical strategy I've everseen. And yet, why is the
Freedom Caucus these members, these seven, not the whole caucus. Why are
these seven so passionately against a speakerwho's ideologically on the same page with them
on every other issue. What isthe reason? Excellent question, Christopher,

(33:52):
I don't know, and most ofthe people I'm talking with don't know.
I met with Bob Livingston this verypast that, you know, within the
past twenty four hours, had areally good talk with him. He's a
farmer Speaker of the House from Louisiana, folks, very very well known,
strong, powerful leader in US Congressuntil he retired back in the nineties and

(34:16):
went into the lobbying business. He'sa really fascinating fellow, an old attorney
brother. He was a deep ananimal house guy. Maybe that's honed his
skills for the political swamp. Idon't know. But anyway, he's beguiled
by this whole thing. He doesn'tunderstand what. It's really hard for him

(34:37):
to wrap his brain around all this. What's going on? And is there
something behind the scenes we don't knowabout it? I don't know. It's
it's being kept top secret for sure. I agree with you, Christopher.
You know, if you're going tofight a war, let another nation fight
it for you save our own men. And you're right, we're getting a
huge bang for our bucks because weare decimating the Russian military, or at

(34:59):
least the poor Ukrainian troops are.And let me tell you their backs against
the wall. The average age ofthe Ukrainian soldier right now, I think
is around forty. That means they'velost most of their youth. They're they're
young soldiers, and that's that's whoreally needs to do most of the fight.
They're the most capable of a violentaction, if you will, in
combat. Young younger people, they'rethey're stronger, they're more energetic. Uh,

(35:20):
they're they're just overall they're much betterto have in combat than older people.
And uh so older people come withskills and and uh, you know,
experience, but the younger folks theyhave they have that that punch where
you need it, you know,and uh because they're young. And it's
it's one of the great tragedies ofwar that we lose so much of our
youth in war. But you know, they they have fought this war valiantly.

(35:43):
And let me tell you this isjust gonna be a whistle stop for
the Russians if they if they takeUkraine, much of Europe will be before
there there will be the next move. Uh they're I mean, this guy
is a megalomaniac dictator putin uh hatenote. An old good friend of Obama's
and the Democrat Party, if youwill. He's been very useful to them.

(36:07):
They've been able to use him asin the Russian collusion delusion they tried
to pen on Trump and there wasnothing too, absolutely nothing to it.
And you take note also when Trumpwas in, all this foolishness was stopped
before it ever got going because Trumpknew how to handle these troubling nations.
He did a great job with him. He kept us in peace for the
entire four years he was there.You know, as soon as the Democrats

(36:27):
coming in, wars all over theplace all of a sudden, because we're
weak. When your enemy knows you'reweak, they're going to attack you.
If they think you're strong, they'regoing to be cautious, they're going to
back off like old Teddy Roosevelt,you know, walk quietly, but carry
a big stick. That was DonaldTrump. And what a great job he
didn't keeping us out of war.We need him back, folks. Anyway,
excellent tour through that swamp Christopher,which he just took us through and

(36:49):
what's going on in the US Congress, the crazy, crazy stuff going on.
It's very disappointing to me because youknow, I'm a hardcore constitution conservative
and these seven people of the FreeNight that the whole freedom call because just
seven of them, but they arethey are really really being troublemakers right now
now. Just don't understand what they'reup to. Maybe one day we can
find out. Right now, nobodyseems to know. Everybody's scratching their heads

(37:12):
on this one, saying what arethey doing. I mean, one of
the biggest insiders, Bob Livingstone,can't figure out what they're doing and he's
very disappointed in it also, Sofolks, it is we know we have
another topic we want to get intobefore we go into the last part of
the show. And Christopher, withall of this heavy tramping through and struggling

(37:35):
through the filth of the septic tankswamp of politics, Christopher could maybe we
get a tour and maybe to seeand learn something about the beauty of mother
nature. Certainly we need to liftour spirits with the beauty of God's creation.
So maybe you got some I knowyou're out on a tour right now.
And we're doing this remotely. ButChristopher, what's going on in those

(37:59):
rocky mountains? Tell me about it? Imagined. Imagine folks taking a lovely
and beautiful train ride through the Rockies, the scene where you have seen all
the animals. Oh, it wouldbe magnificent. Christopher, you got anything
about that you can tell us?Let us know right now and give us
a story. Hi, if Icould take a personal indulgence here for a
second and tell everybody that I've beencurrently leading a group of people between Moab

(38:25):
and Denver and on what has beenas I have referenced the beginning to show
one of the most beautiful train ridesof my entire life. And I encourage
people to look into the Rocky Mountaineerand through a company called Uncommon Journeys Uncommon
Journeys dot com, I often leadtowards the national parks, but the Rocky
Mountaineer is a step above. Itis a passenger train that is not attached

(38:51):
to Amtrak. It uses private railcarsand private engines to take people from the
Red Rocks, Arches and canyon landsat Moapp all the way through the most
beautiful part of the Rockies, theedge of Rocky mount National Park. They
head near the headwaters of the ColoradoRiver all the way to Denver and it's
been. It was a fascinating trip. You can check out at my Facebook

(39:15):
page some of the reels and videosof it. But because it was unseasonably
snowy this in May and so allthe mountain passes were full of snow.
In fact, actually closed a coupleof mountain passes in early May. It's
an extraordinary thing. But the ideaof it was train travel as it should
be in America. It's expensive,but where there was elegant train travel guide,

(39:40):
very knowledgeable guides on board, abeautiful you know, uh dome cars
that you're sitting in, cocktails aredervs, lunch, and even stopped for
the night in the beautiful town ofGlenwood Springs with its incredible hot springs.
Well, you know, we hada wonderful trip between it. But it

(40:01):
made me think about how badly wedo passenger rail travel in America. We're
pumping so much money into Amtrak,and as I've often done on this,
the Bidy administration has been more generousto Amtrack than anyone else. But our
long haul train trips are getting worseand worse, the engines older and older.

(40:22):
Heck, they built some new enginesfor it, and they found out
these custom built engines they were usinglead pipes, so everything was toxic.
I mean it was. It's beena calamity of errors. And yet I
see this private company, Rocky Mountaineer, doing these trips. They do them
from May to the end of August, beginning of September, and it's a

(40:44):
Canadian company. Originally they do privatetrips up in Vath and Jasper, but
they're doing this trip. It's ascenic trip. It's not a commuter trip.
But it told me something that thereare people who can do private travel
long distances very competently, and thatif we were to explore this for our

(41:06):
long held trip. These Amtrak complainsthat you know, these trips cost them
so much, but they get asubsidy of three billion dollars a year.
Maybe it's time for us to startlooking at other options around the country and
the world. It won't happen inthe Biden administration, it did not happen
under Trump, who rejected getting avmtrak. But there has to be someone

(41:28):
willing to say, wait a second, guys, these are essential for many
towns. These are es central servicesand not everything is going to be scenic,
admittedly, but we ought to belooking at other options. But for
those that ladies and gentlemen who wantto see one of the most beautiful trips
through the rocky mountains that exist,the most beautiful mountain train trips in the

(41:49):
world, you know, check outyou know, call Uncommon Journeys dot com
or me at five oh four threenine ohero four five seven nine and find
out more about this trip. Yourthoughts on us, and thanks for that
tour through the Rockies. What anexciting thing, my thoughts. Let's build
the old trains and bring them back, folks. Let's get those old locomotives
and trains, and what a timewe could have in this country, What

(42:13):
an experience that would be. Wedo need to revamp the rail systems of
America. Of course, we wantto have some modern, you know,
fast trains and all that, butwe need those old ones back, folks.
There's so much fun, there's suchwonderful trains. So without further ado,
it is time for us to goahead and take another commercial break and
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(45:09):
Hi mckenry, and it is nottime for us to go into our
chaplain. Bye. By patriotic moment, we just take a brief moment to
remind you of the biblical foundations ofour country, our Judeo Christian jurisprudence.
And today we want to talk aboutDaniel Boone, Old Danel. What a
great man, What an amazing man, lived into his nineties. I believe
the guy. So many stories Ican tell you about him. He's a

(45:31):
great explorer, a great land developer, a great government official, if you
will, a great military man.He was a colonel in the Kentucky Militia,
and the Native Americans considered to behim one of the bravest warriors of
all folks and even made him ablood brother because they wanted his warrior skills
on their side. Of course,he only did that as a human terrain

(45:53):
operation so he could get on theinside of the Native Americans and then learn
how to protect the settlers from theIndians. The Indians were very fierce and
aggressive. They tribal people always areall around the world, doesn't matter the
culture, time and history whatever.When common denominator of tribal people is war
so folks. But what about DianiaBoone? Did he have any kind of

(46:13):
biblical foundations, any kind of beliefsor whatever. Well, his sister,
a very devout Christian, wrote hima letter when he was living in Missouri.
Had moved to Missouri where he wasa judge. That was his last,
if you will, political position workingas a judge. And he was
asked by his sister, are youreally a Christian? Are you going to
heaven when you die or you sayfrom hell? And he said absolutely,

(46:34):
And she said, you know,I encourage you to go to church.
And basically he had to say,well, they're no churches. Most of
my life I've had no churches,but I've had the great splendor of the
Great Cathedral of the Heavenlys as Ibiblesays, heavens declare the glory of God.
And he wanted to describe how closehe had come to God by spending
so much time in the wilderness.Incidentally, you know that he knew Auduburn,
John James Audubon, and helped himwhen Ottoburn was up in that area

(46:58):
doing all of his great art work. Folks, Daniel Boone was an amazing
man, and he knew God,and he worshiped God and gave God all
the glory for his life. Whatan amazing man. So many stories I
can tell you about him, buttime does not allow. Again, Folks,
we can see the biblical foundations ofour country, but what about your
biblical foundations? Folks out there,do you have that same kind of confidence
and faith that Daniel Boone had?Well, let me just tell you what

(47:22):
you need to know about this.The Bible says, and we are now
going into our chaplain by a gospelmoment. The Bible says that God loves
you with an everlasting love. Folks. He loved you so much he became
a man. He actually condescended,He stooped to becoming a man. You
know, the human race is notexactly a pretty race, if you will,

(47:44):
We're pretty pretty rough. We werevery rough around the edges and in
many places deep down rotten on theinside. We needed a savior, We
needed a redeemer. We needed someonewho could deliver us. And God knew
we would never do it our sohe became a man to do it for
us. That man's name is theLord Jesus Christ. He's all the way

(48:05):
God and all the way man,perfect God and perfect man. He knew
someone had to pay for our terriblesins, so he did it on the
cross. But Alwa says his bloodhas washed away all of our sins.
I mean, folks, from theday you're born and the day you die.
You Titians the greatest sins. Scripturesays he that new not sin,
and that's Jesus. He that newno sin was made sin, all of
our dirty, rotten sins. Thatyou that us, that all of us

(48:28):
might be made the righteousness of Godin Christ. Imagine that that Jesus just
didn't des sind didn't just come on, It went in him and he was
turned into sin. We're talking aboutfor billions of people. We're talking about
trillions of sins. This is toobig. It's hard for me to wrap
my mind around that. It's sucha huge thing, folks, But he
did it all for us because heloved us. You want to get a

(48:50):
message of love. That's one ofthe strongest messages of love I've ever seen.
That's if there ever was sacrificial love. That's it right there, folks.
Jesus did it for you, Hedid it for me, He did
it for all of us. Andafter he completed that great task to deal
with our sin problem, then hedealt with our other love problem called death.
And I'm talking about the second deathwith the Bible calls the second death.
If you don't get the second birth, Jesus said, you must be

(49:13):
born again. If you don't getthat second birth, that's a spiritual birth,
folks, that's what it is.He says that then you will get
the second death. So folks,get the second birth. It's also called
the second birth birth. This ishow you do it. You put faith
alone, in Christ alone. Youbelieve that He really did die for all
your sins, was buried and rosefrom the dead. He rose from the
dead to overcome and get victory overyour death problem. When he rose from

(49:38):
the dead, he won for youhis precious free gift of resurrection, everlasting
life. Folks. That's all yougot to do. With the faith of
a child. You have to firstof all, believe you cannot save yourself
you're hopeless, and help us withoutGod destined to a burning hell. When
you come to that point in yourlife, you have just repented. It's
not turning from your sins and doinggood work. Special prayers, ba satism

(50:00):
or whatever you might think it mightgive him to the church, you know,
knocking on doors, handing out gospeltracts. Those are all really good
things to do, but they won'tget you to heaven, Folks, They're
never going to be good enough.The only thing good enough is Christ's righteousness.
And you get that the moment youbelieve you cannot save yourself and believe
that only He can, and thatHe did, and that He will save
you from a burning hell, deliveryou from your sins, and guarantee you

(50:23):
everlasting life to be in heaven withGod forever. The moment you believe that,
folks, you have just been bornagain. Whether you feel it or
not, you're God's child. Youbelong to Him, and you'll be with
Him in heaven forever. So,folks, if you've never made this decision
before, never made this choice before, do it now. Don't wait till
it's too late, Like the oldcountry preacher said, and like the word

(50:45):
of God says now today is aday of salvation. Well, folks,
now it's time for us to gointo our chaplain Bah bah watchman on the
wall, where we just take abrief moment to give you some information about
how soon Jesus is coming back.And he's coming back soon, folks.
Today, I want to talk aboutIsrael again. I want to talk about
what's going on there where the Biblesays about his chosen people, the precious
Jewish people. The scripture says thatwhen the in comes Jesus said this and

(51:09):
in other places, all the nationsof the world would turn against Israel.
Folks. We're seeing that happening rightnow. We're seeing it all around the
world. There are protests and revolutionsand where you know, even violent protests
going on all around the world.We're seeing it right now a lot on
the American college campuses and where theprotesters are saying kill all the Jews,

(51:30):
where the protesters are supporting the terrorists, the ruthless, godless, brutal terrorists
who has sworn to kill you,not just the Jews, but their big
focus of course is on Israel asit has always been. They got to
kill all the Jews if they're goingto be good Muslims. If you take
the Korean literally, folks, youknow, if I take the Bible,
what do I have to do.I have to love my neighbor. I

(51:52):
have to do good to those whodespightfully use me. I have to turn
the other cheek, folks, Ihave to love my enemy. Think of
that, folks. Well, Muslimshave to actually kill you if you're not
just like them. It's a verydangerous warlike religion, and it has the
entire world now is rallying behind thismilitant form of Islam. So, folks,
it's happening right before our eyes.We've never seen it at this advanced

(52:15):
state ever in the history world.All these signs are all coming together at
the same time right now. There'sso many, there were two hundred folks,
And Jesus said, when you seeall these things coming together at the
same time in coincidence, then guesswhat. I'm at the door. I'm
coming soon, he says. Youwon't know the day of the hour,
but you will know the soonness ofit. And it's here, happening right
now before us. If you don'tknow what to do, folks, you

(52:37):
need a good bunker. I'm goingto recommend the heavenly bunker making company that
provides the greatest bunker known in theuniverse. It's called the Lord Jesus Christ.
Let him be your bunker, Lethim be your protector and your safe
us. And I promise you,folks, he will get you through this
very coming tough times that are heavilyupon us. Right now, well,

(52:57):
folks, it is time for usto close. As we close the mind
St. Martin singing a Creole goodbye, and God bless all that we call
you creel goodbye. They think wejust wasted a time for the mead.

(53:22):
All three savon say there's time fora Creo goodbye.
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