Departing MISO / MAGA vs. Trump on Iran

Hy and Christopher are joined for the second half of The Founders Show by Public Service Commissioner Eric Skrmetta, who has launched an inquiry into why the blackouts were ordered with just nine minutes notice by a little known federal regulatory group one month ago.
MISO is more than a soup, but Skrmetta believes that Louisiana and her electric utilities would be better off working with other southeastern states for a new interstate compact on power distribution.
By the end of the program, we also talk with Skrmetta, who is an expert on international relations, about Iran. It’s timely, because the first half of the program discusses not just the apocalyptic danger of the Supreme Leader and his Mullahs, but how some of Donald Trump’s closest allies believe that joining the Israeli bombing campaign is a tragic mistake.
The president has given himself just under two weeks to decide whether America will join the war with its critical 30,000 pound bunker buster bombs necessary to destroy the underground atomic centrifuges. However, bombing Iran could endanger domestically the President’s pursuit of getting the US Senate to pass the “One Beautiful Bill”.
Nevertheless, the political damage within the GOP at home might be necessary, as Hy notes quoting a senior source in Washington DC:
The world watches with bated breath as Tel Aviv endures one of the most devastating strikes in its history. The recent Iranian missile assault has tragically targeted sacred spaces within the heart of the city: the Diamond Exchange District, Stock Exchange, and Soroka Medical Center. With reports of 147 injured and significant destruction, the impact of this violence is felt deeply across the nation.
Furthermore, Israeli officials have confirmed the use of cluster-type munitions, raising alarm over the devastating consequences for civilian populations. In an unsettling development, authorities have enforced censorship, restricting foreign media from documenting the reality on the ground, while Iranian media mockingly disseminates footage intended to undermine Israel's narrative. The power dynamics in this conflict have escalated to unprecedented levels.
🌡 An Escalation of Tensions
The Iranian Supreme Council has issued dire warnings regarding a "new strategy" in retaliation for any external intervention. The IRGC has demanded the immediate evacuation of the Dimona nuclear facility, signaling an urgent need for global attention. Reports indicate that key sites, including the Israeli Police Headquarters and intelligence facilities, have been targeted, while Iran has released a provocative 3D map of the Israeli C4I Command Center. Though the IDF has successfully intercepted cluster munitions, there are claims that the Iron Dome defense system is being overwhelmed by the intensity of these assaults.
🌐 The Global Response is Building
Amid these grave developments, the United States is weighing its options for a potential strike on Iran, with a final decision expected in the coming days. Former President Trump has denied any pre-approved attack plans, while the White House has committed to a resolution within the next two weeks. Simultaneously, direct talks between U.S. and Iranian officials are reportedly underway, with Russia and China condemning Israel's actions and cautioning the U.S. against further escalation.
💣 Geopolitical Reactions & Threats
The conflict has unraveled far beyond the immediate region, with Iranian drones downing an Israeli Heron UAV and Kata'eb Hezbollah ominously warning that U.S. bases may become “duck hunting grounds.” Iran's threat to close the strategic Strait of Hormuz looms large, prompting NATO to shorten its upcoming summit to mitigate potential fallout.
📉 Broader Implications
On the home front, Iran has accused the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) of facilitating Israeli aggression. An extended internet blackout persists in Iran, marking one

Episode Transcript

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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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And we are not talking about the soups. All this
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Speaker 4 (00:41):
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Speaker 2 (01:07):
With Christopher Tidmore, your roving reporter, resident radical moderate and
associate editor of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at Louisiana Weekly
dot net and before we get into the whole issue
of miso, and we don't mean the soup, we'd mean electricity.
We've got to take a look at the international situation.
I mean, there's so much I want it We've been
meaning to talk about lately, like the fact that New
Orleans is no longer a major city. And I don't

(01:29):
know if you've heard this, the North Shor has been
succeeded by us, by the federal government. They no longer
consider the city of New Orleans to have the North
Shores part of its metro area, which comes you know,
this means that we go from a metro area of
one point three to five million down to nine hundred
and sixty two thousand, which has major implications for funding,
for the size of our market and all this. But

(01:51):
that kind of pales in comparison. We'll talk about that
hopefully next week's show. That kind of pales in comparison
to the Iranian situation. You're like, well, why are you
guys talking about the Raanian situation? Well, how can we
put this politely? High has served on either side of
this country. I've been on the borders of this country
and the Iranian people, those of Persian and Farsi descent.

(02:13):
This is a very sophisticated culture. That I mean ancient,
ancient culture, but also a very highly educated thing. This
is not like the Middle East. It's not like the
dirt you were in in Afghanistan or Iraq. This these
are This is a highly sophisticated society.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Afghanistan was made up of primitive tribal people. Yeah, most
of them literate.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
And this is anything but. And that's that's why if
you had asked in nineteen seventy six, for example, what
country was more likely to embrace Islamic fundamentalism, Iran would
have been so far down the list you would know
people were in mini skirts. Yeah, he was was He
may have been the current rivits Pavali may have been,

(02:52):
maybe not the most uncrooked person on earth, but he
was infinitely better than what they ended up with. Christian
stretch of the imagination the.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Middle East is they're all corrupt. Yeah, most of the
world is. Look at Eastern Europe, Russia, I mean just
the Orient or in countries there's so corrupt. This is
a good extent way they live. They called back sheeesh.
You don't do anything on backs, sheeh. No, I understand
that means you pay people off to get what you
want to get done.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
But compared I mean, I will say, compared to what
by any stretch of the imagination, compared to what came,
which was this essentially twelfth century you know, extremist idea
of and this is the thing that gets it. So
a good friend of ours, Scott McKay, somebody we've written
for we had on the radio show, put something on Facebook.

(03:37):
He's a local political commentator and he basically he's a
huge Trump supporter and he says, so for him to
say this was it. If Donald Trump goes into Iran,
he ought to be impeached. That was a major statement
for Scott, who says, and there's there's this whole element
of from Tucker Carlson on down, who are reacting to
this art. Yeah, all the bright Bart people, a lot

(03:59):
of and normal, normal Trump supporters are going a little crazy. I,
on the other hand, think Trump, Look, I'm gonna do
something unusual. I'm going to compliment Donald Trump for actually
handling this almost perfectly.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
And I mean people are like, oh my god. Right.
So on the one hand, epiphany, No, I'm not having
an epiphany. I'm basically saying Trump's best and worst instincts
are actually working for a situation. So, for those haven't followed,
in a little under two weeks, Donald Trump's going to
decide whether or not to go into Iran. What's happened
is the Iranian the Israelis have bombed Iran as far

(04:34):
as their technology allows them to.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Right and and cause them extreme damage and shut them
down enormously. But they're still have there. They they're still
a danger. I mean, they still have enough punch to
literally start World War three and have an atomic holocaust
circle in the globe.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Well, and let me explain this for those that don't know,
the Iranians have a very sophisticated and very much on
the inexpensive, not cheap, inexpensive military industrial complex. They're the
ones who pioneered the idea of the three hundred dollars
drone that could be a cruised bristle. They're very sophisticated militarily.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
I have been predicting this ron drone thing for close
to twenty years, now, twenty years I've been predicting and so.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
What the Israelis do not have and this has been
as it are called the mods. These are thirty thou
pound bombs. They're non nuclear, but they use depleted uranium sources,
so they're able to penetrate down into protected bunkers under
a mountain, and that's where the eight centrifuges are. We
know for a fact Iran has produced enough nuclear material

(05:41):
to probably create as much as twenty to twenty five
nuclear weapons. They're very close.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Plus their missiles are averse.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
And their missiles other parts are very sophisticated.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
This is not They were producing like three hundred a
week I think it was, and they were waiting to
get up to the level of twenty five thousand because
they wanted to launch all of them at once. We're
talking about inner continental folks, not a little small missiles,
the big ones.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Now, this is something that that everybody from Tucker Carlson
down Scott McKay has said, well, who cares if they
have nuclear weapons? And Hy and I are like laughing
because let me explain something to you. Neither one of
us are particular Hawkshi has been more blood in this
mud than anybody I know. I mean, you've been in
Iraq and Afghanistan.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Yeah, true, folks, with my combat experience. One thing I
learned is that the people who want to end war
more than anybody or military, just because we've been through it,
We've seen the hours of war, and we are the
ones who can't wait until we beat our swords and
the plowshares and our spears and the prunent hooks. As
Jesus said it would be one day. Okay, we can't
wait for that day.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Well, what the problem is that people who can't wait
for the day or the twelfth mom extreme shit is
let me let me, let me give them a background,
because I know you're an expert in this. So in
a thumbnail that there is Islamics extremism, there's soon as
rhomics extremism, there's she is Islami extremism there, but she
Islamic extremism. Is is a little bit different because she

(07:04):
believes in the in a series of im moms, a
series of Mullahs who have actually come through they're messiahs,
and there's a series of Soni Islam does not believe
in this right. And what it means is they're listening
waiting for the twelfth which is the He's going to
bring about the end of the world.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
The one that's going to crawl out of the well exactly.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
He's going to come out of a well in Iraq
actually right over the border and at this at this
uh uh Uh temple complex. Essentially it's a little bit
more than a than a standards mosque. But it's one
of the things that they believe temples and is not
not temple shrines, it's shrines.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Where that's their voodoo witch doctors. Are there called pairs?
We never hear about that. I did there, you know,
the flying carpets.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
And the the reason, the reason, the reason why I
said this was that unlike sayble hobbyism, she is believes
in what are the the the equivalent in Islam of
saints and and and and prophet and so and so forth.
They have a much more active eschatology. And that was
the word I was looking for you right with shrine,
not not temple. But the point about all of this

(08:08):
is that in twelfth im On, this is the entire government.
They talk about this constantly. The Supreme Leader Kamani talks
about this will bring about the end of the world
with fire, and there is a belief process that the
nuclear weapons will be his instrument. Of course, to do this.
So let me explain this in the most basic terms possible.

(08:29):
The Taliban wanted to bomb a building the twelfth Imman
extremisms want to set the world a nuclear fire. They
are not rational. They are not cynics like Putin who
just want to dominate countries, ands and I'm Jasias and
kill hundreds of thousands of people. Now, these guys.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Believe killing everybody, include themselves.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Because that will lead to the end and out of
the ashes will raise up is like the phoenix, which
will then finally take over the whole world. And so
what Trump is been trying to do is is thread
the needle between are we had to bring about World
War three because these guys are open to having that.
They're ready for that.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
You know. You know what's so strange a bottom See
with my military background, when you're going to attack somebody,
guess what you never tell them?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
You never know?

Speaker 4 (09:16):
It's top figured. These guys have been screaming at the
top of their lungs that they're going to attack us
and blow us all up for decades now. It's almost
like they're saying, please please hit us there there there,
so we can really get into it.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Their political philosophy for international relations is nobody can out
crazy us. We're crazier than you are. Unfortunately, the Benjamin
Thatte taught you is crazier than you are. He's not
going to allow a second Holocaust, and so he's going
to bomb you country into the Stone Age. The problem
is these rallies do not have that for what they
can't go.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
To the bumper bunk or bunk busters.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
And more important, and just as importantly, they're running out
of missiles. The economy, the Israeli economy is not so
big they can they don't don't have the strategic capabilly.
So right now you've been watching Donald Trump, Donald Trump,
and look, I've made many criticisms of Trump. This is
not a criticism, this is just a statement of fact.
Donald Trump was elected on the idea of not getting

(10:13):
involved in the Middle Eastern.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
War, that was the whole war period, war period in Ukraine.
And just like he got us out of Afghanistan.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well, and I think you know, and I think that
was one of it was ultimately Biden's failure. How we
did totally, but the idea of getting out of getting
out of Afghanistan was a bad idea as well. Giving
up Bograam Air Force Base, which you've been No, No,
he wasn't giving up. He actually the original. But let's
let's argue that real quick. Both of us agree the
Bogram Air Force Base is something we should have kept,

(10:41):
no matter what. Even camp I was, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
I put in the largest airstrip in the world, right,
we had, we had too many with an arrow pointed
straight at the heart of Iran and China.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
And that's no no. But bog Rooms in the north
was in the norse at the Chinese board. I think, right, right, right,
that's my point. But the fact of the matter is
he's running on a platform he could have just as
easily said this is their problem that it is he hasn't.
Part of that is because MIKEUK could be one of
his closest political allies, is the ambassador in Israel, and
I don't know if you've seen, he sends a rather

(11:13):
incredible text message which is basically, God saved you for
this moment.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
It was.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
It was a powerful thing, even if you don't even
if you're not a believe in creation.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
Folks, he's a Baptist prayer to remember that. And so
I'm talking about I think Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Trump is definitely not a Baptist peacher.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
No, but he's close to it. I'll explain later.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Maybe Jimmy Swagger close Christopher. But that my point, my
point in considering that I'm actually complimenting Trump. Give me
a little break, all right, give me right now, Jimmy Schwide,
I'm gonna I have fun with brother Swagger. Did so
did a lady on Airline Highway. But that's another story anyway.

(11:56):
The fact of the matter is this waiting two weeks
is cooling off period. But I've got news for you.
For the Iranians, it's not. The Israelis have enough missiles
the last two weeks. And one of the interesting things
that's been happening is while the Iranians have been retaliating
every day and we've seen their missiles are better than this.
This is not gazalike missiles we've seen. We've we've seen, yeah,

(12:17):
we've seen buildings with protected rooms. Being in the safe
room is just a sentence to death for a lot
of Israelis. The fact of the matter is israel Is not,
or at least the Israeli government is not bending on this,
and he's.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
They have no choice.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Well, everyone always has a choice. It may not be
a good choice. It may not be a.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Good choice to march to the death camp. Yeah, that
was a big mistake. It was. It was a big mistake.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
And so the question is a.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Few of them pulled out and they survived a few.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Now the question is what is Trump going to do?
Because here's here's the side effect. If Trump goes into Iran,
he will not put an American boot on the ground,
But what he will do is do the bunker busters
and basically destroy Iran's entire military industrial complex from the air.
So this is this, this is war on the maybe costly, financial, expensive,

(13:05):
but probably you know, human isolic exactly so the but
here's what it also does. Forget for a moment cutting
a deal with Vladimir Putin, because where does Putin get
most of his military equipment from these days that he
can't produce himself. He buys it from the Iranians.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
He is that productive product. So a lot of his
military stuff they were getting from him.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
No, it used to be that way. It's been the
other way around.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Good. You see, they're very brilliant people, They're sophisticated. And
the sad thing is most of the Iranian people are
good people. They don't want this. In fact, you know,
the fastest growing church in the world is in Iran
right now. It's amazing. The Christian Church, I mean Christianity. Yeah,
they're they're they're they're, like I said earlier, in ancient culture,
highly sophisticated. I knew them in India, Uh, the parseis

(13:53):
and the and they're are very unique and special people there.
One of the things about Islam in that country is
that one of my Jhama created ism. He pulled in
much of his old tribal religion. He pulled in Christianity, Judaism,
and Zoroastrianism, which is out of Persia that was the state.
So the Persians are Iranians tend to think that they're
an extra special group in Islam. And because of that,

(14:16):
and they've created this insane concept of Islam. Although if
you take the Korean literally, I don't care what's whether
you Shia, Sunni or whatever you are. If you take
it literally, you have no choice. If you're gonna be
a good Muslim, you have to kill Christians, Jews, Infidels,
and even heretics. And because of that, they kill more

(14:37):
Muslims than they kill.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, the rest of us.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Oh wait, let me finish. But it's a religion for war,
and how dangerous and crazy it is. Good those Muslims
don't take it literally, thank god.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
I would. I would also say that because while most
Muslims will look at them as allegorical, the Shia twelfth
in mind do not by any stretch of the imagination.
And more importantly, they have literally and more importantly what
they do is they've added on an entire eschatology on
top of that. That's even worse. So my, you know,

(15:11):
the the ultimate, the ultimate question that is, and this
is the problem. Trump doesn't have a problem. This is
one of those weird situations where he's not going to
be actually protested from the left very much over this.
There are things they'll protest about, gods of the print
is they want about Iran. Interestingly, most of his support

(15:32):
right now for going in I ran the Democratic leadership
and about half the Republican Party and about half the Republics.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Big money on war, that's why the police come on.
All these big wats have been brought in by the
Democrats and they've made fortunately that is non that's why
the military industrial complex is heavily supported by the Democrats.
It's and the MAGA people. It's the concernats who've been fighting.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
This high At first a lot of the MAGA people.
First of all, Eisenhower was anything but MAGA.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
But second, I'll say magga. I said he was fighting
the He invented the word military and US for complex.
He was warning us.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Actually, actually it was he used it, but it was
George Kennon who invented the term.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
But that aside the fact that the actor I'm kidding.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
George Kennon was he created the containment theory of communism. Anyway,
the point I'm getting at in all of this is
that it's the Republicans, and we're not debating this. The
half the Republican Party really, the MAGA core support, the
Trump loyalist are the ones who right now are and

(16:32):
this is this is going to be and some.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Of them are starting to support him and they're realizing
you don't have a choice. They began to see the.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
The major, the major, the major ones are doing anything
but the breaking with him, and we're going.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
To see what happens with him.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Tucker Carlson, Well, Tucker Carlson will put one hundred bucks down,
and Tucker I have known, I have known Tucker Carlson
since the nineties. I'm well aware. I'm say that James Tucker, Tucker,
Tucker wants to be close to the corridors of power,
and he can do it. But a lot of Trump's
core people, and we're going to see this is gonna
be a test. And I'll give you an example where

(17:04):
it's going to be a test in a strange sort
of way. Is the most unmilitary thing on earth. It's
the big beautiful bill. Because right now Donald Trump is
trying to push this bill in a way that people
He's got one. For those who haven't traced with the
latest machinations of the Senate. They took the House bill
and the House had done a few gimmicks in it,
which was like make the child tax credit expire in

(17:26):
twenty twenty eight so it wasn't as expensive. The leader
of the Senate, John Thune, has said, no, no more gimmicks.
If there's a child tax credit, there's a there's an
equipment tax credit, it will be for the whole ten years.
The whole thing a bill, no credit. But in order
to do that, he's gotten rid of the repayments to
rule hospitals. Now, for example, here in Louisiana, this would
be catastrophic. We'd lose thirty seven hospitals in rural areas,

(17:50):
most of them in Mike Johnson's district because it's the
poorest part of the state, the poorest, most rural part
of the state. You've got people on from Lisa Murkowski
to Josh Harley when we're talking different extremes in the
public Party, who are like, hell no, we won't vote
for this because we represent rule states and if you
get rid of this, it's a gimmick. It Basically what

(18:10):
happened with Obamacare is rule hospitals could tax the money
coming in for Medicaid and then get refunding, so they
get their up there funding by nine percent, and that's
how they stayed in business. We did it here in
Louisiana the most. Almost every state that accepted Medicaid boost
under Obamacare did this. You get rid of this rule,
healthcare in America ceases for all intents and purposes. That's

(18:31):
not me saying that, that's Josh Harley. These are doction
Aerican services. And the problem is Trump is trying to
get this bill through. And the fact is some of
the same people who are critical I just mentioned Josh
Harley on going into Iran are the same people he
needs to convince to go along with a cut that
he doesn't want to do. So the people who are

(18:52):
go for cutting medicare are for the most part urban
Republicans or Republicans from major states, you know, like Florida.
They're fine. The Thune doesn't care. It's not going to
affect his voters to the same degree, but the voters
he needs. And this is where real world politics hits
foreign policy. And so we'll see in the next two
weeks how this comes down. I will say right now
though from a political standpoint, Trump's between a Persian rock

(19:17):
and a rather big hard place. And the question is
how what will happen the next two weeks. I'm going
to make one prediction though, the mulas cannot negotiate. Not
now you mean the Iotal, the Iolas, the uh The
mulas is the sub ones, right right, so.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
That the Itoles folks are the top mulas, the type
of the popes.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
The Council of Mulas, which is the ten thousand that
support the Iaetola. They would any if Kimani, who is
not Kimoni. The success of Kimane is were to allow
the government. So the way they don't run the government,
but they veto anything. Well, I'm explaining to the public.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Right, no, no, no, no, that's good. They need to know that.
So they're like the power behind the phone. They have
their official government that every time they get a command
from the Iola, their only response is how high do
I jump?

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, And so they cannot allow negotiation. And if that happens,
that puts in a situation where where do we go?
And I will tell you, going into Iran has one
major implication. Suddenly the Ukrainian War is connected because Putin's
is on the Iranian side, and what happens in Ukraine
becomes this is a much bigger issue than people have
And we got to get to our next guest. By

(20:26):
the way, so folks, we'll be back talking a turn
to energy policy and the idea of Miso. Why did
we have a giant blackout? Well, Public Service Commissioner Eric
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So thanks so very much. This is Chaplinhi McHenry with.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Christopher Tedmore and we are joined by Public Service Commissioner
Eric Kremetta. Eric Krimmetta is one of the experts in
the PSC, not only on general energy policy, but is
probably one of the leading nuclear experts in the United States.
We'll talk about the capacity for you know, having a
small scale nuclear reactor being able to bring power cheaply,
cleanly to many communities. But right now, Eric, we got

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to turn to the fact that a lot of people
lost their power or not so very long ago, and
it all it was because of an acronym that nobody
had heard of. It sounds a lot like soup. What
is miso? If you can explain it, it's the best
Japanese soup.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
Gone, what's the recipe? We're gonna do it. We're gonna
do a cooking show right now.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
The rest no know. The recipe for miso is apparently
bad politics, Eric, what is miso?

Speaker 5 (23:20):
Well, it's actually miso according to them, but it's it's
an an acronym for the Mid Continent Independent Service Organization.
And we also had problems with another it's referred to
as a regional transmission organization. We had problems about a
week or so before that with the other regional transmission organization,

(23:41):
the Southwest Powerpool, which is SPP that serves the Shreveport
Louisiana area, which also had a blackout in that area
that knocked out about thirty thousand people in that area. So,
but you know, MISO is a federally created through the
Federal Energy Regulatory Commission regional transmission organizations designed to manage

(24:07):
and provide resilience in transmission systems in its footprint, which
their footprint is from Manitoba, Canada to the Gulf of
Mexico down through zigzagging around through the central part of
the United States, and the MISO South portion is the
five Energy Jurisdictions, which includes mississis half of Mississippi, this

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part of Arkansas, part of Texas, part of Louisiana, and the.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
City of New Orleans.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
So their job is to provide stability in managing dispatch
and control over how power moves between power plants and
how it gets transmitted through the transmission system. The utilities
themselves like Entergy and Clco and Sweptcoat, their job is
to generate power and provide it ready to dispatch, and

(25:02):
they notify MASO through their day ahead market they will
have certain resources available for dispatch.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
And so so yeah, go ahead. Well, and then that
gets into the question, you know, forgive me, I lack
your expertise and genius. Now that's okay that stuff. But
you know, for those laymen, you know, we figure that
with our regulated monopolies of utilities, we have made a deal. Look,
you will charge us a very fixed rate. You will

(25:31):
have no competition in exchange. You will generate enough power
so that we can turn on the lights and keep
our hospitals running and not have blackouts short of a
major natural disaster, and hopefully not too much then. And yet, somehow,
some way, this compact between the people and the electrical
companies went down because of me.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
So why yeah, that's absolutely right, because it's not the
fault of the generating utility.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
It's not the fault of energy by any stretch of
the imagination.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Because they had notification a day in advance of what
resources they have available, they can provide this. So this
existence with MISO is a contract between the utility provider,
which is Energy, and MISO, which is outside the purview

(26:20):
now of the Public Service Commission, because it is, like
I said, this is a creature of the Federal Energy
Regulatory Commission, and the actions taken by MISO were totally
outside the protocols they were supposed to do to protect
the grid. You know, we have a lot of mechanisms

(26:40):
which are there to provide for when they're short power,
when there's a problem in the grid, we have protocols
that have to be followed. In fact, we have contracts
with the large industrials that they can special breaks on power.
But that also means that if there's need for power
to preserve you know, power go into the residentials, that

(27:02):
we can turn their power off and curtail it and
make sure we have power. And those are called interruptible contracts,
and there are protocols to execute those contracts before you
would ever have to go to blacking out power zones.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
And that didn't seem to happen this time.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
No, No, those require and like I said, those normally happen.
If it ever happens, there's a four hour notification on this.
What looks me and the unacceptable part of this is
MISO makes a phone call two Energy and says you
got nine minutes to load offload five hundred megawatts. And
they called Clicko and said you have nine minutes to

(27:40):
offload one hundred megwats. And neither of these utilities have
ever heard of an order where they only had nine
minutes to catail service. So this looks an awful lot
like someone at MISO hit the panic button and they
are still not giving us adequate information on why it
was done. So so we had our first initial meeting

(28:02):
public meeting at our Public Service Commission on Wednesday with
MASO personnel, so mid level personnel, and.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
The answers they gave us were not satisfactory.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
But I didn't expect they would be because we've still
just issued our interrogatories to their company to get the
correct information and data so we can do our own analysis.
We'll be giving them come back into August when we've
got a chance to digest this information. But so under
those circumstances, when any of this is any acceptability.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well, and this is what I'm getting at, because Public
Service Commissioner Excabats joining us, lady and gentlemen, he's been
the one who called for these hearings before the PSC
tried to brought the misofa people in and why they
ordered these essential blackouts. When you take that much power
off the market and that quick, you're shutting off people's
power for no particular reason. And this is the thing

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that kind of extreme authority is supposed to be extra
at times of extreme national danger, and yet nobody can
seem to figure out what triggered them to make this,
Why they figured the grid would be this much overwhelmed.
It was hot that day, but not as hot as
it's been the last few days. What was even what

(29:16):
was their excuse? I guess is what I'm what I'm
asking Eric.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
Well, we're not We're not even sure of what their
real excuse is because remember, you know, MISO manages transmission
and market dispatch the utility companies, you know, create power
and distribute it. So you know, MISO is now telling us, well,
there were problems with the transmission grid.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Well, the problem is is they have to manage it.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
So they're still not being you know, fully accurate on
why they weren't managing the grid. And I don't know
if they had their B team or C team or
D team running their operations room in Carmel, Indiana, or
in their other operations center in Little Rock, Arkansas, but
whoever was doing it was not paying attention.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
And they made a mistake.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
And you know, the further level of unacceptability of this
is these guys have no skin in the game so
as a commissioner.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
But we joined.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
MASO in about about twenty eleven, twenty twelve, and.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
So this is something This isn't something Eric that we've
been doing here in Louisiana time immemorial. This is something
that's in this generation. It's less.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
This is something that we've been doing for about ten years,
maybe a little bit longer, but about ten years of intensity.
And there have been value in participating in MASO in
the marketplace because we've actually had some savings for ray
payers on the fuel bills. The problem is when we
had the acceleration into the renewable energy system, the Green

(30:52):
New Deal, that there was a real acceleration in development
of this in the northern states that are part of
my which are there's eleven states on the other side
of the interconnect in Missouri, and a lot of them
have renewable energy goals of one hundred percent and so
they are building out massive transmission mechanisms in their interconnect

(31:16):
with US. And so it's a problem which is now
creating a potential imbalance between the value of saving on
market energy and the cost of transmission. So the more
that have these developments, the more problems in the cost
of transmission and management transmission. There appears to.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Be let me, let me put your erudyite language into
something that a lot of the public, you know, might
resemble English. So we got states that are running deficits
of energy because they have renewable energy, and so we're
expected to bail them out when they don't have enough anir.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
Now, that's pretty much it, And tell somebody, it's a
lot like Daniel da Lewis in the movie There'll be Blood.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Is they want to drink our milkshake?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
All right?

Speaker 3 (32:01):
You know?

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:02):
So in another word, they are, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
They are willing to you know.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
Currently, like on a daylight today, when it's very hot
in the Upper Midwest, they have a lot of wind resources,
and a lot of the times wind resources provide value
because there's no.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Fuel associated with it.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
But the problem is when it's really hot, it's really cold,
the wind doesn't blow, and they've got to get more
power out of coal, which you could look at, a
large percentage of the MISO resource is coming right now
from coal legacy coal units up in the north, but
a lot of it's coming from natural gas down here
and there is but you know, when you're dropping down

(32:41):
in the single digits of wind resources, when sometimes it's
in the twenty percent and the solar is very low,
you have this this moment where it can just drop off,
and then there's panic on how we're going to supplement
these resources.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
And look, I'm somebody I'm not unsympathetic to to climate
change advocates, but I've been watching a weird set of
events happen. And I'll use not as part of myso,
but on the California border, they're in Nevada and going
towards Utah, particularly, there's a series of coal plants. They've

(33:17):
been building a lot more coal plants basically to provide
California with power when renewable energy doesn't, and they're actually
spewing out more things into the atmosphere in order to
keep up with the renewable sources that are not working consistently.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
And so well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well you have
to recognize that anytime you build a megawat of renewable
you have to either match it to an existing megawat
of traditional baseload power, or you have to build a
megawat of traditional baseload power. It's one of the reasons
that over the last fifteen years utility rates have gone

(33:54):
up about twenty nine thirty percent when they should have
gone up about fifteen percent is because they've had to
pay They've had to build double the infrastructure, because you
have to make sure that there's a backup for renewable energy.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
And so this therein lies the dilemma.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
So in other words, to make our atmosphere less carbon neutral,
we are making it more carbon dependent. It's it's kind
of one of those those those oxymorons. It's hard to
put your head around, but.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
It could.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Public Service Commissioner ex Command is talking about the fact
that this transfer, this this deficit in power meant that
Louisiana had to effectively ship power across state lines. And
that's why a lot of with nine minutes notice uh miso, this,
this acronym of this federal agency essentially put us in
a position where a lot of people lost their power,

(34:44):
in some cases for many hours.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
You know what I've seen in all this, and that
is that I'm all for renewable energy. If we can
figure out a way to do it, great, love it.
But until it's really functional and really works, all we're
doing is spinning our wheels and creating more problems instead
of solving them. And on top of all of this,
when you look at one volcanic eruption producing more pollution

(35:07):
and a larger carbon footprint than all the cars and
industry does in an entire year, and there are several
thousand volcanoes going off every year, it's just making this
whole carbon footprint thing, this giant joke you see, and
it's it's a complete waste of time and effort for us,
but there are people making money off of it, and
that has something to do.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
With you know, I'm gonna and I'm gonna, I'm gonna
bring Eric back into this, but not about a carbon conversation.
Here's the whole thing. There is a way to be
able to reduce the carbon footprint and have available power.
And it's something you're an expert on that they're they're
making nuclear reactors now the size of a truck and
this creates no carbon. You actually get the best of

(35:49):
both worlds. And Eric, you've been one of the leading
advocacy is totally that they're doing a great general France
is not using with Eric's an but.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
I mean they're using atomic kids but.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
The question is this is one of the points of
the entire conversation. I haven't missed. You've been talking about
this for something. Explain this to the public that we've
gone where we've gone through a revolution and fission power
that could achieve a lot of these goals without us
having to build two separate, uh complete electrical systems for
one to step into the other. Can you talk about that,

(36:21):
Eric'scamta Well, yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
Well, first off, you know, it wasn't so much about
the power resources that caused this these outages. It was
clearly transmission management that did this. Because it's not about
the utilities. It was clearly about mysel which is why
I'm recommending that we look at leaving the transmission organization
and move into a different program which is over to

(36:42):
the southeast and uh, you know Alabama, Georgia, Florida, which
is one where the utilities themselves manage the transmission system
and still have a marketplace.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
And I want to make sure, right there's a there's
a better value proposition.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
Yeah, but you know, we we've been working on nuclear
and how to make nuclear a better better proposition, and look,
there's a there's always going to be a place for
large nuclear facilities thousand megawatt facilities, and then we're looking
also into mid range when the Nuclear Regulatory Commission can
certify their safety. But right now we are moving towards

(37:20):
implementing as early as October small reactor micro reactors and
military bases across the United States, possibly several in Louisiana
and Texas which are in the you know, fifteen megawatt
units that actually fit in twenty foot containers and they.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Are a nuclear reactor the size of a shipping container.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Right, Yeah, there there is a.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Finally, right, and these are manufactured by BWXT, which is
the company that has manufactured the new and they've managed
for the all naval petulsion has been made for them
by step for seventy years.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
What's the name of the group in the southeast you
tell us about.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
It's the It's it's all.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
It's actually a confederacy of companies that are part of
or related to Southern companies.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
So it's Florida Power and Light and Georgia.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
But you know the name of the organization like MESOVI, right, the.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
Company the organizations called Southeast uh Market Association, but it's
referred to as SEAM S E. E. M.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Everything is in an acronym in.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
This right right about how about Sex Southeast Conference.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
No, no, no, you'll get a lot of fans there, folks.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
It will catch you on the exchange for the right.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
The But the IGNI on this.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
The real reason that it's a good thing to move
over to that model is that the companies themselves would
sit on a committee and they would manage the transmission
resources like they did before we joined these transmission organs.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Well.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
Because of that, if they made a mistake, the commissions
around the country could find them and recover rate credits
for the consumer.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Right now, we can't do anything to MASO.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
The only people can do anything in MASO if somebody
wanted to gin up a class action suit, because you know, normally,
if you can't sue a utility, you'd have to come
through the commission to do it. But in this case,
MASO is not regulated by the Public Service Commission, so
they're they're a free target in.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
The civil world. So you know, this is an important differential.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
But I think that you know, we've got interest from
Oklahoma in them leaving SPP. We've got interest in other
companies that are part of Louisiana with swebcoat and leaving
southwest powerful. And I've been looking at the map of Oklahoma, Texas,
and Louisiana and Mississippi all the way to the east

(39:51):
coast and up the east coast of the Carolinas.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
And if we unify as commissioners.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
And make this commitment to move into the same model,
that we would actually create the largest, I believe, the
largest energy model of a group of you know, common interest,
common energy development, common generations, common problems that we would
be And I will point out that during Hurricane Ida,

(40:17):
you know, Southern Companies to the east is the one
that helped us repower the city of New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
MASO did not do it.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Wow, so's Florida part of this new group. Also Florida.
It is Florida part of this new group.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
That's Florida Power and Light for all of Florida is
part of the same model of the.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Marketplace Public Service commission. Eric Scamandez joining us here in
the Founder's Show with Hi Mikenry and Christopher Tidmore. We're
talking about how never to have this blackout, you know,
short of a natural disaster again. And Eric, you know,
I appreciate all the work you've been doing. I know
you know some people take the PSC jobs is to
show up at a meeting. Eric takes it as probably
more than a full time job. You fly all over

(40:57):
the country and try to get the expertise and expertise.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
I'm very impressed with what I see, your knowledge banks
and your effort here, your hard work in this thing.
Thank god we got a public service guy, a politician,
a bureaucrat who's really taking his job serious and wanting
to do the best.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
You don't use that dirty word with Eric Scremita.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
That'sian.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
I'm from New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
I'm from New Orleans. I've put the yat in bureaucrat.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Oh, Eric Scremitta. We want to have you on. They
talk politics as well in the future shows. But I
do want to say if somebody wants to find out
more because you, one of the things is some PSC
members do this, but you're very good about connecting with
the public. If somebody wants to find out more about
the status of why their energy problems are happening, or

(41:40):
reach out to the Commission. You are an elected official,
after all, representing an area the size of the congressional district.
How do they get in touch with you?

Speaker 5 (41:47):
Actually, I have all are part of five congressional districts
in my district. You know, I have an office in Metie,
Louisiana on Meticarie Road, and I have one on the
Causeway West Approach in Mandeville or that can reach us
through our main office ve.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
And just for people that don't know, what does the
Public Service Commission regulate? We always talk about bigger than that.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
We regulate a lot of stuff.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
Most people don't realize, but we regulate all non municipal
systems of electricity, water, wastewater, natural gas, residential service, hardline telephones.
We regulate hazardous waste disposal vehicles. We regulate non consensual
towing systems, regulate interparish taxis, black car services, regulate pipeline tariffs,

(42:36):
interstate intrustate pipeline tariffs.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
We regulate common carrier issues, pipelines. We're very much an.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
Economic interpreter and regulator on issues effective with bees that
the public pays on a variety of service.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Well, Eric Menswer, this could you possibly regulate our politicians?
I noticed you have a WASTEOS system. Not a not
a chance, wouldn't that be nice, folks. Oh Lord of Le's.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
Pray for there's not enough time and immorial to take
care of that. I ask you, guys, what do you
have on your Bingo card for the great event in Iran?

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Because I'm picking Saturday plus midnight plus one.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
You know, it's interesting because we were talking about that
right before you came on the air, and we're basically,
you know, we're looking at the situation of it. I
actually think it's going to be it's going to be
about eight to ten days. I think Trump is in
a position he's trying. We made the connection earlier in
the show about whether or not how this is going
to affect domestic politics, particularly with one beautiful Bill saying

(43:39):
that some of the very votes that he needs are
the ones critical of him going around. And I think
that math is going to take about a week to
work out. But look, I think we're looking at an
American commitment to aerial bombardment and certainly the bunker buster
bombs inside of nine days.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Well, I would agree with you, it's going to be
certainly within two weeks.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
And I think that our commitment to our ally in
the Middle East Israel is going to be interesting on
this because I do think that Israel's not done with Iran.
I think that if all we do is provide a
series of GBU fifty sevens punching holes in a nuclear

(44:25):
weapons facility to make it render it useless for the future,
I think that's going to be the extent of the
commitment of US forces dealing with the Iranians. I think
a lot of facilities are moving into the region for
US forces in case there's any retaliation coming back from Iran,
which I don't think will happen, as all combat aircraft

(44:48):
from the Iranians and moving east out of the range
of the Israeli aircraft right now. But I would think
that before this is over, the Israeli military is not
going to allow run to have a BB gun right
before this is over with, as they're going to continue
to destroy military infrastructure until the Iranian people.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Will have the ability to rise up against their dictators
and take care of this.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
The one challenge Israel has is not just the bunker
busters that you're referred to, because you can only deploy
those using a B two. The problem also is Israel,
as we pointed out earlier, is running out of missile,
so we're not just joined the bombardment. We actually have
to bring back part of their arsenal, you know, and
that's one of the decisions. I'm just curious how that

(45:35):
plays in the domestic political situation. You're a major player
in the Republican Party, You've been everything, and you've got
to remember, it's some of Trump's closest allies that are
the highest critics about getting involved in this, and you know,
how does he deal with the domestic politics when some
of his closest allies are saying, don't get involved? And
Ran I.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
Think the president is just going to have to realize
that no matter what he does, there's going to be
a certain amount of you know, opposition to him. Right now,
it's over seventy percent of the population in the country
in polling shows that they recognize we cannot allow a
death cult like Shia Islam to you know, possess nuclear

(46:13):
weapons and for the world, we don't want to. They
don't want to just use them against Israel. They would
use them against Europe and eventually use them against US
against and they would use them against Sunni Islam country.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Of course, that's why the all that is Islamic countries
Rhem are jumping for joy that Israel's taking him out
because they know their next they know it.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
I thought it was I thought I thought it was
very key for an Israeli Prime Minister in his original
defense of this in English to say Israel and our
fellow Arab allies. And he was talking about Saudi Arabia.
So anyway, that note highest pointing out. We are at
a time Eric Kamitta, thank you for joining us. We
look forward to hearing. If you have any other news
coming in the next few weeks, be sure to share

(46:55):
it with us here on wr NO and WSLA.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Thank you very much, gentlemen, appreciate your appreciate.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
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Speaker 4 (47:52):
We're back. It's Chapelhei McHenry and it's not time for
us to go into our chaplain. Bah bah patriotic moment.
We just take a brief moment to remind you of
the biblical founders of our country, our Judeo Christian jurisprudence.
Did you know that during the days of the American Revolution,
when John Adams and John Hancock were told us stand
down in the name of the king, their response was,
we recognize no sovereign but God, and no king but Jesus.

(48:17):
And do you know that our finding fathers, when they
marched into battle during the American Revolution, they carried banners
and flags and all that. And you know what of
the banners said, no king but King Jesus. Folks, the
only king that the constitution allows is you. Did you
know that James Madison said that every man is a king.
We don't have one king. Everybody is a king because

(48:37):
we carry the rules of a king. Were involved in
our government, we vote we make laws all the things
that kings would do. We help execute the laws as policemen, soldiers, whatever.
So it's interesting how the American government was set up.
There's no room for a king in this country. If
there's any room, it's because of our biblical foundations. We

(48:59):
really believe no king but King Jesus. Now, folks, how
about you who's your king? And actually, before he can
be your king, he has to be your savior because
it is not time for us to go into our
chapelain by bile gospel moment where again I'm gonna take
a brief moment to show you how you can know
that you know that you know you really are a

(49:21):
God's child, that you really are a child of the king.
You're literally a royal prince spiritually speaking. So, folks, if
you want to how to get there, and you want
to how to enter the kingdom in the end, into
the palace and be part of the royal court. Here
being out, the Bible says that you are a loser.

(49:41):
There's no way you'll ever make it on your own.
You're dead, dying on your way to hell, eating up
with sin. There's no hope for you because we don't
have the ability to fix our problems. We're just not
that good. Well, the moment you come to understand that
and believe that, that's a very important step forward because

(50:02):
what you've just done is you've repented. Jesus kept saying repent,
and believe repent and believe you have just repented. When
you believe you can't save yourself, you're hopeless and helpless,
destined to a burning hell, and there's just no way
for you. When you come to that point, you're really
ready for God. And right at that moment you can
come to understand the gospel that Jesus died for all

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of our sins. I mean, from the day you're born,
in the day you die, He times to the greatest sins,
died for over since, was buried, and rose from the
dead to win for you his precious free gift of resurrection,
everlasting life. If you never come to that point in
your life, do it now, Folks, put faith alone in
Christ alone, because you're not trusting in yourself, you're only
trusted in Jesus. You're believing that He really did die

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for all your sins. Was better and Rosema and the
Bibles calls that the Gospel, and it says the Gospel
is the power of God into salvation. You will get
that power to be God's child, to be born again.
That means your dead and dying spirit will come fully
alive and you'll be You will be the King's prince forever.
Think of that, folks. Isn't that exciting? Well, folks, it

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was very exciting for a man that I had the
greatest respect for. A fellow that lived about four hundred
years ago. His name was Count Zissendorf. He was of
German prince in Czechoslovakia, in Bohemia, and his kingdom was Moravia.
And he became on fire for God. He saw a

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picture in a museum about Jesus and just something happened
to him, something moved powerfully, and he went from being
just a little old church guy to being a true
born again zealot for God. He went home and he
decided to dedicate his whole life. He took his great
estate and he turned it over to missionaries, to people
who really wanted to follow God. It didn't matter what

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their religion was or their denominator, he didn't care. He
had Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, Independence, you name, it. They were
all on his estate and one day, while he was
helping build a new farm Christianity, if you will, or
really a revival of the old, they decided to have
a prayer meet in the little chapel he had built
for the people. They had a meeting there. You know

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how long that prayer meeting lasted? One hundred years. They
birthed Protestant missions for the first time. The Catholics had
a lot of missions, products said none. It started with him,
they call Moravians, and I actually lived in their first
mission house in Honduras, Awas Honduras. It's an amazing story
of what God can do. They helped bring about the

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Great Awakening, which established America as a true going to
be a true republic thanks to the Great Awakening in
the seventeen fifties, because they had such an impact on
the Wesleys, who in Whitfield, who pretty much led the
Great Awakening. Folks, this is a great story, a great
testimony of how God can use anybody. He can even

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use royals, which tend to not follow God very well.
They think they are the king and they don't need
a king, and that makes it very hard for them
to find God. He found God. Anybody and everybody can
find find God. So, folks, it is time for us
to close. When I thank you for being with us,
for closes with the mont Saint Martin singing a creole
goodbye and God bless all out there.

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Does this have to be the end of the nerd?
You know I love you In the pavement land, I
can see across the million stars. When I look at

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we can pose it's the sun time. I suppose you
couldn't call the cras if we take it, just beatle
longer to see our good