Errol Laborde & Twelfth Night / Bourbon St. Terror Attack

Errol Laborde, the newest columnist for the Times-Picayune, joins Hy and Christopher for our Twelfth Night/commencement to Carnival program! The New Orleans magazine, editor and producer of WYES’ Informed Sources highlights excerpts from his new monthly “Streetcar” newspaper column in the T-P Living Section, including how he played a role in (re)creating the Phunny Phorty Phellows as “Heralds of Carnival”, and how in 2009 the King of Zulu joined them as guest of honor. Read the inaugural column here!


Speaking of Zulu, we also talk about Lundi Gras and how Zulu came to meet Rex each year on the day before Shrove Tuesday, outlined in Errol Laborde’s new book When Rex Met Zulu and Other Chronicles of the New Orleans Experience, available at The Garden District Book Shop, 2727 Prytania in the historic Rink, [phone].

Briefly we mention the events of New Year’s Eve, but reserve that discussion for next week's show, when information is more available However, we do point out an upcoming article by Christopher in The Louisiana Weekly which questions: Why the bollards were replaced all at once?

NOPD Officers Reportedly Asked City Hall to Replace Bollards One-by-One
By Christopher Tidmore
Worries that construction would not be finished by Super Bowl may have enabled terrorist attack, as all bollards remained down at the same time.

A 43 year veteran active duty veteran of the NOPD told The Louisiana Weekly on background that Mayor Latoya Cantrell’s desire to install more attractive, stainless steel bollards in time for the Super Bowl may have left Bourbon Street unprotected from the New Year’s morning Bourbon Street terrorist attack.

NOPD Eighth District officers reportedly objected to the bollards being taken down simultaneously by Hard Rock Construction Co., LLC to replace the old bollards with new removable stainless steel bollards.

The process, which began in November, and was scheduled to end in time for the Super Bowl, many NOPD officers worried, would leave most of the French Quarter defenseless from out of control automobiles. Apparently administration officials at the Mayor’s behest in the Department of Public Works rejected calls to replace the bollards individually, block by block, worried that the work would not be completed by February’s big game.

According to the city’s website, work began on November 18, 2024 on a stretch of Bourbon Street from Canal to St. Ann Streets to replace the current exposed bollard system with “new removable stainless-steel bollards”.

As nola.gov explained, “These can be securely locked behind each crosswalk. Construction will focus on the first 60 feet of each block where the old bollards are. The road will be taken out and replaced to put in the new bollards. Some sidewalk repairs, like fixing missing bricks, will also be done. The removable bollards will help close the street to cars during pedestrian-only times but will be stored away when the street is open to all traffic.”

Personal observation by the author on New Year’s Eve noted that as late as 10:30 PM, many of the existing bollards bordering Bourbon Street remained down. Still, as former PANO President (and current President of the Victims Rights organization Crimefighters) Irv Magri told The Louisiana Weekly that, normally, in such a circumstance where no other substantial barriers exist, two police officers would park their units perpendicular to one another, in order to block traffic. The police cars would act as impromptu bollards. Instead, law-enforcement on the scene utiluzed multiple white and orange plastic barricades and fencing.

The lack of weighty obstruction allowed 42-year-old Shamsud-Din Jabbar to drive his white truck down Bourbon Street killing 15 and wounding 35 at 3:15 AM on New Year’s morning. Jabbar, an Army veteran, also had weapons and a potential improvised explosive device in the rented truck, the FBI said. There were other possible IEDs planted nearby in the French Quarter, two of which have been rendered safe. An ISIS flag was reportedly also in the truck.

The FBI is working to determine the suspect’s potential associations and affiliations with terrorist organizations.

Jabbar served in the Army on active duty as an IT Specialist from 2006 to 2015 and then in the Army Reserve from 2015 to 2020, according to three U.S. defense officials. He had deployed to Afghanistan in 2009 and was a staff sergeant when he was honorably discharged in 2020, the officials said.

Episode Transcript

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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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it ofvention.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
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to the founders. So the voice of the founding fathers,
You're Founding Fathers coming to you deep within the bowels
of those mystic and cryptic alligator swamps of the Big Easy,
that old Crescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana, and high up
on top of that old Liberty Cypress tree way out

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on the Eagles Branch. This is none other than your
Spngary Baba of the Republic Chaplin, Hi mc henry with.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Christopher Tidmore, your Roving Report, a resident radical moderate and
associate editor of the Louisiana Weekly Newspaper at louisianaweekly dot net.
And ladies and gentlemen, we've got a fantastic twelfth night
show joining us today with Hi and Christopher, and I
got to tell you we were bringing into Guru Guru.
He is truly the Guru, the mart the Martygo Guru,

(01:23):
Carnival Guru, the Carnival Guru for those that don't know this.
Of course, he's better known as the producer of informed sources.
Errol Leboard is the author of multiple, multiple books, all
of which, by the way, hi are available signed copies
of the Garden District Bookshop, including his newest book, When
Rex Met Zulu and other chronicles of the New Orleans Experience.

(01:46):
But we're welcoming Errol the Board on a rather fortuitous
day because on the fifth of January, the day before
Twelfth Night, he is premiering his new column in The Times,
picking in the New Orleans Acts. And Errol, I believe
the column that you're premiering is rather timely, if I'm
not mistaken.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yes, it's called Twelfth Night though a wild Ride, and
that talks about the beginning of the carnival season.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
So it's perfectly so let's let's let's start off with
your column. By the way, congratulations on your new column.
And the Advocate as somebody who grew up reading you
when you when you were editor of Gambit, and of
course reads your column in New Orleans Magazine religiously and
has for years. As I as well as knowing you,
I got to tell you, I cannot imagine a more
appropriate columnist in the true tradition of Pie Do four

(02:36):
and others as Errol Aboard in the Times pickyun So,
how are you kicking off the story of this wonderful
international holiday, the twelfth Day of Christmas, but that we
have really made our own Twelfth Night here in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Well, well, you know one thing about twelfth And I'd
always like to point out how lucky we are in
New Orleans because everybody else in the world that you know,
all days after the Christmas is after the Christmas season
is over, so you go in this post holiday despair.
But for us, it's beginning of Carnival season, right, and
so it's uh, it's a new season begins, and so

(03:12):
we don't need their fullest Christmas letdown in New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
In fact, the way I see it is that the
holiday season for New Orleans starts at Thanksgiving and goes
all the way through ash Wednesday. We have like about
three months of holiday time.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Well, but then you then, of course you got Saint
Patrick's Day and then of course we're in we're in the.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
Festival and the St.

Speaker 6 (03:34):
Josephs, right, yeah, exactly, so, I mean never quite so that's.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Just when it's slow that it's slow down, even though
we have the largest in the world.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
We have the largest one in the world here in
New WANs And by the way.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Let's get back to our other full day. And of
course that's twelfth Night with aerol abordis a new column
in the Times.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
But game, wait, twelfth night. Why is it called We've
got to know that. People have to know that, Errol.
I'm sure you know why it's called twelfth night.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Well, I tell you the point of contention. It's called
twelfth night because depending on how you do your counting,
starting on Christmas and you count every night since then,
this is twelve nights after Christmas, right, except it's really
start of the fifth night after Christmas. Oh, I mean interesting, No,
I'm sorry, the twelfth night after Christmas is January sixth.

(04:19):
But it's really really if you do twelve, it would
really be January fifth, and some coast is separated on
January fifth. But what we've always done on January.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
It's almost were always going to add an extra day,
aren't we if it comes to partying, Yep, it's always
going to be another day.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
So tell us if you would most people. Of course,
we may have to make the important distinction that, as
you have in so many of your books and columns
over the years about Carnival, is that Marty Grass is
a day, but Carnival is the season farewell to the
flesh that starts on twelfth Night and goes until Shrove Tuesday.
And as you're starting to reintroduce this idea in your

(04:55):
new column in the time Spicking, which premiere is of
course on the fifth of January, what are you pointing
out that the average New Orleanians may not know their
all report.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
The celebration and acknowledgment of Twelfth Night New Orleans has
really grown over the years. I mean the idea of
twelfth nine that goes back to the feast of the
Epiphany and the historic night when you know, the wise
men arrived at the Manger, and so that tradition has
always been there in New Orleans for the longest time,

(05:25):
since eighteen seventy. I think the main tradition was something
that most people didn't see and that was the ball
of an organization called the Twelfth Night Revelers. And so
the Twelfth Night Reveler is this society ball until it's
by invitation. And what they were famous for is that
they have this fabricated kin cake that they pull out
and that they have these fabricated slices with fabricated beans,

(05:49):
but one of them's gold, and the one that's gold,
the girl who gets it becomes its named queen. Now
her family kind of knows she used to be queen
because they can't prepare a party for after. But that's
that was always the biggest tradition, but only maybe a
couple hundred people got to see it every year. So
for the populace would emerge was the tradition of the

(06:10):
king cake. And some bakery, I guess it was probably
McKenzie's or something started baking these king cakes, which were
based on these French cakes the French used to do it,
and in that they put a foreign object. In the
New Orleans, it was a plastic baby. And so you
had the emergence of this thing called the king cake parties.
And that was like in you know, in classrooms and

(06:32):
then offices, they have a king cake and they slice
it up and people and the tradition was whoever got
to slice with the baby, and it would be the
king or the queen liver it is, we have to
buy the next cake. Some people kind of hid the
fact that they got the baby because they didn't really want.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
To do it.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
No baby, no baby.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, by the way, what's the why do we have
a baby? There's a reason for that baby.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Well, the idea was and this was like supposedly it
was one of the founders of Mackenzie's Bakery and they
had the the friends used to put some kind of
favor in it or maybe like our beans.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
They put a was a big thing, a bean.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, but the idea of putting a baby was supposed
to supposedly to represent the Christ child.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Right right, and the bean represented the seed of God,
which would have been Jesus birth.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yeah yeah, same thing, same thing.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah. But it was just a mass produced plastic bag.
I mean yeah, I mean there was nothing really spiritual
about it. And gotta tell you, it wasn't that great
of a cake either. It was kind of a dried cake.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
But they've got great ones today now, fantastic. Why they put.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Cream cheese and caramel, all kinds of goodies on the
other side with great bread.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
Yeah right.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
I think since the nineteen eighties some some bakery started
to get more creative.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
With their kings I remember when it happened. I loved it.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Interestingly, the more traditional kincakes and some of the best
come from the Vietnamese Gune falling and so and so forth.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
And there are a lot of more Catholics, so they're
into that tradition anyway. And by the way, why do
they call it a king cake in honor of the
three Kings? And why is it in a circle?

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Why is it in the circle? Yeah, there's a race
for being in a circle. Yeah, you know what, Well,
people don't know why?

Speaker 6 (08:16):
Well er well Errol, who is an expert in carnival,
tell us why?

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Okay, well tell us why it's on the circle.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Well, let me just get back to the mention of
the Vietnamese. The Vietnamese do a really good king cake.
But I think that's because of their French influence. The
long time that the Vietnamese was Vietnam was a little
about the French and the French of great bakers. Oh yeah, yeah,
I think from the French they got the Catholic influence
and the baking influence.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
No, I mean, I'll tell you, I'll take a.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Really good bread that's it's fantastic.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
I'll tell you, Errol, it hits that sort of French influence.
I was in Saigon and I about ten years ago,
and I walked out of my little, uh sort of
guest house I was staying in.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
And a bomba and no, and I walked in. This
is a few years after that high and I walked, Yeah,
I walked.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
I walked out and a guy was having these little
cakes and he had coffee milk there.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
And I walk up to him.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
And everybody in South Vietnam to this day speaks English.
And I go up to him and I said, you
know where I'm from, In New Orleans, they call those beignets.
And he says, yeah, that's what we call him here too,
you know. So it gives you kind of the idea
that what they was saying.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
I've often wondered was the original kincake made out like Beignes,
but in a circle.

Speaker 6 (09:23):
Now why the circle.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
Let's get to the circle.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
It's okay if no one knows, because no one ever knows,
I'll be glad to give you the answer, and the
answer is this. The Kings were warned along with Joseph,
that Hair was going to come kill the baby and
to get out of there and don't go see Hair.
And he wanted them to go back because he claimed
he wanted to worship Christ. But what do you really
want to know was the exact location so he could
send his men in there to kill him? And so
what he did, what they what they did is they

(09:48):
instead of going through Jerusalem on their way back, they
went around Jerusalem in a circular fashion.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
So there hence the kincake is in a circle.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Well, I've also heard the reason it's based on the
traditional French cake that was also done in a circle
as well, and it's kind of that's kind of apocryphal,
but you know, I'll buy the answer to go one.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
It's definitely all right, it's very biblical. Christopher, all right.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
Eryl Aboard is joining us.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
For those that are just joining, Hi, McHenry and Christopher
Tidmore here on the Founder Show, as we come to
you every Sunday from a ton on andr and nine
nine five FM, and every Monday Wednesday and Friday Friday,
Monday Wednesday and WSLA ninety three point nine FM fifteen
sixty Am. Errol's joining us here on this eve of
Twelfth Night for a very important reason. He has a
brand new column that is premiering in the time. Speaking

(10:32):
you New Orleans Advocate. There he is going to pick
up the traditional stated thing of the great historians who
wrote for that newspaper, going back to ALC four ch
and then living Memory Pie do for and Errol before
we get back into history and Carnival and talk about
your new book. When Rex Medzulu, I got to give
you congratulations on this column. It's long overdue to have
you back in the regular daily print. Of course, we've

(10:53):
all been reading you in New Orleans Magazine for years
and before that in Gambit, but it really is great
to have you back in the daily and back with
us that way.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Oh yeah, I'm proud to be there. It's a good
place to be. I think they've done a great job
with that Mergence picking you in the Africa. I think
it's a really good newspaper. It is, and so I'm
proud to be there. Yeah. But just going back to
the Twelfth Night, you know a next step to me,
if you look at the evolution of the kingcake, or

(11:23):
if the Twelfth Night Celebration in New Orleans you had
a traditional ball and you had the bakery selling your cakes.
In nineteen eighty two, a group called the Funny forty
Fellows started doing what they call a ride. Essentially, they
were into the street car. They all got in costumes
and they rode the Saint Charles route and they had

(11:45):
banners on each side that says this carnival time. And
so they took themselves as being like the chroniclers of
Marty Grass and to spread the word. Well, that little
event got a lot of publicity. I mean it was
very novel and Christmas is over whether we do in
that out and the media loved the idea of seeing
these people in mascarade going in and to see and

(12:05):
to see the ride. And so that event's been going
on since nineteen eighty two and it draws a huge crowd.
I mean it doesn't draw like an Indemnobocca size crowd,
but for the but for January sixth, a lot of
people just go out and see an event that takes
maybe ten seconds to pass by. I mean it's really
one street cord passing by. They don't call it the parade,

(12:27):
they call it a ride. But I think it's just
the anticipation of something happening. But they also have a
band on there. The Storyville Stoppers for most of the
time has been the band, and so just the feeling
to see people. It's the first time people with the
season to see people in masquerade and hear music, and
it's just a happy experience. So I think that event,
which gets a lot of publicity, and like the Associated

(12:50):
Press always covers it and then they feed it out
and so it gets we monitor the publicity gets it
gets international publicity because it's the only one. It's it's novel,
and so in the whole world, this is the first
thing that people see of the new Charnibal season. And
so I think that that has really made the whole
king Cake thing and the whole Twelfth Night thing grow.

(13:10):
And now they're like king Cake parties all over on
twelve and a lot of people.

Speaker 6 (13:15):
And I have to give Errol's being very modest here.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
He and his lovely wife Peggy Scotland Board helped organize
the forty Funny Fellows and really prayed in the nineteen forties, No, no, no,
The forty funny fellows that it's eighty two.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
Oh, that's right, eighty two. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, thank
you eighty two.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, and it's all spelled with the pH right, funny
forty fellows.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, funny. And that goes back to an
organization that started in the eighteen fifties. It was a
group of it seems like it was a group of
guys who like maybe their dads were in Rex. It
was like a next generation of Rex type people, and
they had a parade. After the Rex Parade, it would
follow for about fifteen years as lasted, and it was

(13:58):
like a satirical raid, and then it folded and then
it went away. And so in nineteen eighty two a
group of people including myself, had the idea of well, well,
one we'll coind of intrigue by the name of the organization,
but then if it happens, we were invited. My wife
and I were invited to a friend who had a
birthday party and his wife ri into the street Corps.

(14:21):
They had a birthday party on the street car and
we said, you notice feed you could do more with this,
and then we started thinking about doing the idea of
having a ride on Twelfth Night and it just really
caught on and we're just you know, excited about that.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
It's one of the many times, earol Aboard, you helped
reinvigorate Marty Grass and bring back a carnival tradition in
a grander circumstance. And if you would, we could transition
before we go to the break. Actually we got to
take a quick break, folks. We'll be back after these
important messages. But when we come back, ladies and gentlemen,

(14:56):
we will talk about not only Errol's new book, when
Rex met Zulu, but how he set it up so
that Rex could meet Zulu and created the tradition of
Lundi Gras.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
Folks will be.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
Back when we come back.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
When we come back, but we'll be back, folks, right
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And I'd like to add one more thing about Twelfth
Night that I was going to say as we were leaving,

(18:35):
and that is Twelfth Night in the beginning. Now, remember
when the you mentioned it that the group like the
Funny Forties, that would have been in the eighteen seventies,
because Rereck started in the early eighteen seventies, but right
at that time, yeah, and right at that time also
Twelfth Night started. I think it was eighteen seventy four,
seventy five or something like that, seventy three, I don't
remember anyway.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
And though there is some debate if the original Twelfth
Night Railers became the ball of the Twelve Night revel
World eighteen ninetees.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
The current Twelve Night guys are absolutely certain they're the
ones also with the parade, and they have the inside
information on it, and I have the inside information on them.
I have a lot of inside sources Errol. So anyway,
what happened was they had this great parade and it
played a major role in driving the carpet baggers out
of New Orleans because it had all the scenes of

(19:23):
all the evil carpet baggers and all the bad things
that we're doing. And other parades did the same thing,
including Rex, including moments. And we don't know today, is
that back then, shows like let's say the Wild West
show ers, big circuses, barn and Bailey, all that those
were big deals, I mean super big deals, and people
came from all and they went as far as Europe.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
I mean, these were big deals.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
And so all the newspapers carried in front page even
colored sections, you know, with the colored print instead of
black and white. And it was such a big deal
back then, these and they put a lot of the
They put much more per capita or let's say the
value of the dollar back then than they do today
in these magnificent performances they put on, They had opera,
they had everything going on, and so this made headline

(20:07):
news all around the world. And I just believed that
politically it had a huge impact on finally writing the
last state in the South from the Wicked carpetbaggers that
were they were the spoilators. They were cleaning us out.
It's one of the most terrible times in America. Yes,
some mighty and they were finally driven out by and
Martikos had a lot to.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Get back to the whole idea of what was going
on with satire in this because I want to get
into your new book and the moment you talk about
Lundygral but High raises an important point and the idea
that satire through Carnival was a way of expression and
it actually came forward and not only made political changes then,
but throughout the history. Satire has always been part of Carnival,

(20:43):
and it seemed for a while with the exception of
moments later the Crew of Chaos that went down, but
with Cruditton, all this political satire is a major part
of Carnival to this day. And you are in the
interesting position of being a political reporter in most of
your day job and a Carnival could story on the
side of it. And I wanted to get your view
on this about is this satire that was one of

(21:06):
the roots of modern Carnival alive and well, do you
think it's expanding or do you think it's been a
little endangered over the years.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
One of the first and finest satirical So we're gonna
talk about Zulus.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
I'd like to hear more about that.

Speaker 6 (21:18):
Go ahead, Arrow, Well.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
That's a lot of right, Okay, First of all, let's look,
let's look at the first parading organization that lasted was Comas.
Coma started in eighteen fifty seven, all right, and so
that was pre Civil War. The next one was twelve
nine Revels had a parade for a few years, but
it didn't last. And so the next major parade was

(21:43):
Rex in eighteen seventy two, and that was during the
period of reconstruction, so there was a lot of political
sensitivity during that time. But the famous parade was one
that Comas did, and it was a spoof of Darwin's
Origin of the Species Has it just been written? And
he had different characters involved in the Union, like General

(22:05):
Grant and different people and they were like arms and yeah, yeah,
that's yeah, and they mentioned, you know, like the characters
from Darwin's Origin and of the Species. Well that didn't say, well,
some people complained to the White House and all that,
and there were some complains from the federal government. But

(22:26):
I mean it was nothing that could really be done.
But I think internally some people didn't like that either,
and so they pretty much stopped doing that type of
parade for a while. And what happened And to the contrary, Okay, Rex,
and again this isn't during reconstructions they can said, you
two a real factor in the development of Mortar grow

(22:48):
that's over really really overlooked. With the emergence of the
passenger railroad. In eighteen sixty nine, Lincoln signed the legislation
to build a Transcotton railroad, and so by the eighteen
seventies you were getting railroad service. So once the railroads developed,
you know, you got a railroad, you can carry passengers.

(23:10):
Next thing you gotta do is get the passengers there.
And so railroads became a real promotional vehicle to try
to get people to travel on them to go. And
so Morty gro was a natural thing. And their story
is like the first Rex parade that brochures were printed
and they were passed up and down the route of
the railroads with the equivalent of the Illinois Central. You know,

(23:34):
come to New Orleans and see the parade of the
King of the carnival and so Railroads did a big
job on that. And so when REX started, REX didn't
have the same I mean, reconstruction was there, and it
was very bitter and one of the founders of REX
was a newspaper guy who even got beat up because
of his opinions on reconstruction. But the parade wasn't about that.

(23:57):
And from the very beginning the first REX parade, one
of the bands and it was the US Army Band.
There was always kind of like to send the play
of trying to get together, you know, with the federal
government again, and so it's always been been part of it.
But anyway from but because of the reconstruction, there was
so much bitterness and that the feeling was let's not

(24:19):
do reconstruct, let's not happen anymore. So satire, I mean
biding satire dis appeared for about one hundred years, and
it was I think it was nineteen seventy five when
Moments brought back satire.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Really, yeah, I thought it was all Moments always had
satire continue.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
No, No, they all got they all got away from
it for a long time because there was just too
much reconstruction. Yeah, preid reconstruction was just too, too bitter,
and so it didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
A lot of the satire was directed against our own politicians,
by the way, the low corrupt politicians in New Orleans
and Louisiana.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
Whatever for those and for those to show us.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Errol Aboard Carnival historian, extraordinary producer of informed sources, and
new columnist in The Times for Ginning New Orleans Advocate
as well as his regular column in New Orleans Magazine,
talking about Carnival, the Advent of Carnival, Twelfth Night and
basically the Carnival season coming up. And Errol didn't mean
to interrupt you, but basically satire Moments brings it back
in seventy five, which is a year after I was born,

(25:22):
and then it takes a little while to take care,
but then it becomes something wider, go ahead, if you would.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Actually, Once Moments did that, it got so much attention
that people started converting back to it, and so you
saw some of the old crewise kind of go doing
a little bit more satire. Over the years, you see
new things start like the Crew of Tucks, okay, which
was all satire, and then in more modern times like
Crue de Ta and so after a while satire.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
Don't forget crudied crude View, the most extreme of all.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Is the most extreme.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
Yeah, like twenty one years older to go see it.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, And the Crew de Vou. There's a law that
governs carnable parades about things you can do and then
you can't do, and where you can go and where
you can't go. But it's based on the weeks before
Marti Graus. The Crew Devou is like one week or earlier, okay,
And so it's not really under that loss. It has
a lot more flexibility to anybody does and lasts that's are.

(26:24):
But it's not like the Crew of two is like
a confederacy itself. It's different groups that each have their
own flow. So it's not like one crew making a statement.
It's uh.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
And and what I love about crude View.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
What I love about creud of View is that some
of those confederacies got so big they formed their own crews.
Cred Illusions and of course Chew Baccus, which I absolutely adore,
being in sci fi fan that I am.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
And by the way, Marty Graus is based off of
religious concepts of course, the ending of the going into
Lent and all that but also it actually has a
absolutely hundred percent guaranteed, legally established religious parade. Which one
is that Christah, you mean the crew of jen of
Arc or no Bacchus Chewbacchus.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Yes, of course Errol could tell the story better. But
for those that don't know, simply point they came out
with the crew of Chewbaccas and were sued by Lucasfilms,
and so the one thing they couldn't be sued for
was to be a registered religion. So if you go
to Castilio Blanco, you will see an altar to the
sacred drunken Wookie. Oh, it is a registered religion, and

(27:30):
so that's why they're able.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
To do all things.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yota is his great profit. It is the Book of Yota.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Only in New Orleans would we create a religion for
what is our religion, Carnival. But Erol of boards joining us.
And I want to get back to the title of
your book. So your wonderful new book. You have somebody
you've written so many books, and I think I was
trying to somebody asked me the count on your books,
and I thought it was like twenty six.

Speaker 6 (27:55):
I was probably off on that Arrol. How many books
you've written.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah, well, I don't think it's that.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
Your new book is about you start off.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
It's many different vignettes about our history, but you start
off with something that you played a major, probably the
major role in the greeting of Rex and Zulu. And
can you tell the story of how you ear Laboard
created Lundi Gras as we know it today.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
It is something I'm very excited about.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
And the.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
In nineteen eighty six, uh, hit aside there to what happened, Okay,
going into eighty six the night before Mardi Gras, very
little happened. For all the build up that there was,
you know, there was a demin in Boux and that money,
it was nothing. Okay. There was a crew of Proteus,
which was a good parade, but besides that, there was
not a really big event, right, And it happened that

(28:41):
that in Marti Gras. This is inside stuff here that
Mordigras of eighty five. I was watching the Rex parade,
I mean the Proteus parade passed by. It was clev
a rainy night, and the captain passed by, who I
knew was a gentleman who really appreciated carnival, and I
shook hands with him. I remember the glove was all soggy,
his uniform was soggy. And I said, how's it going.

(29:04):
He says, man, there's nobody out here. And he sounded
so sad. He put together this great parade, and they
just wouldn't people one because it was a rainy night,
but too, just because that Monday night had become sort
of like a non night. It was like the night
for getting ready for morning, grow up. So I got
me thinking, wouldn't it be great if we had something
big that night before too? And so we started thinking

(29:25):
about it. But the other thing that happened recently was
the World's Fair. If you remember, the World's.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Fair was fortieth anniversary, it just came up. It's incredible.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
The World's Fair was an eighty four and the World's
Fair built all this big in this infrastructure, including the
International Pavilion, which became the Rouse Development. And so I
had kind of known some of the Rouse people, and
I knew that Rouse. And this is not to be
confused with the super market. This is the festive shopping
center kind of thing. The same people that have Fanuel

(29:54):
Hall in Boston. Oh really, okay, and like Harbor place,
and and so I talked to the I knew one
thing that Rouse liked to do. If they like to
go into old city riverfronts, some of them that would
depleted and developed new things there because there's always well
warehouses there. You can develop into something. And they also

(30:16):
like to bring in local culture. So I talked about him.
I said, look, what if we could get there needs
to be this tradition of Rex arriving on the day
before Marty Grass. He'd arrive by river and they'd go
down the city hall and they had toast them. What
if we could get Rex and they hadn't done this
since nineteen seventy one, they'd stop doing it, okay, But
then what if we can get Rex to bring back

(30:38):
having Res arrived by boat? Could you rouse okay? Because
they operated Spanish Plaza right outside river walk. Could you
put on like a performance so you know in your stage,
like get a band and you could have Res go
up there and they could toast each other and all that. Well,
they'd never heard of that, but they said, yeah, we'll try,
and the Res people were willing to try it, and
so it worked. Help me, damn. And so the and

(31:02):
it became a big thing. And so in nineteen I
think it was eighty six, so two years after the
world If they hadn't been a World's Fair, that wouldn't
have been a Lundi Gras, all right.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yeah, And the term Lindi.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Gras came from meaning fat Monday, the same way morti
gros means fat tusay. Right the way that started. It
became very very popular and that was just really just
so thrilled with that.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
The Lundi Gras festival grew out of that at Woldenberg Park.
It became it siddenly lundy graw is a day you
went back to work. Now I have to confess this
as somebody who not only owns a bookstore in this
but runs an opera and all this.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
Nobody works in the Lindi Gras.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
The it's the first day of the basically the five
day it's the fourth day of the five day weekend.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
So folks, to understand your all's culture, you have to
understand this. What else talking about. Somebody has a big party,
let's say for Mardi Gras time or whatever it could
be the time of the year, a big party, and
everybody elected so much they come back the next year
and they have a small block party, and the next
year it's a festival, and then the next year they
got a giant parade attached to it. And that's happened
all over the city to where there's not a free

(32:04):
weekend anywhere in the New Orleans area throughout the three
hundred and sixty five days of the year. There's always
some festival, parade, big thing going on. That's how New Orleans.
A lot of people got tired of Marty Gauls back
and I remember I was at part of the group.
We got tired of Marty Gras and we were going skiing.
We would leave. Tons of New Orleans fled through the
mountains to go skiing during Marty Graus.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
But guess what they brought with them.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
The Marti gral spirits. So guess what they did. They
had little Marti Gras parties and lodges there. Guess what
now the Garakis have Marti Gras parties, balls and parades
up and down in the Rockies right now to this day.

Speaker 5 (32:34):
Thank you New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Well, and of course, and Era, I do want to
get into this because I want to get in talk
about your book. We've got a few more minutes, though,
the same thing happened in Washington, d C. Where a
group of staffers decided, well, we're away from home, we'll
have a little.

Speaker 6 (32:49):
We'll have a little ball, we'll have a little parade.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
And now, of course Washington, Marti Gras, if you can
put on your political hat, I'm throwing a fundraiser there
for the New Orleans Opera on the Thursday before.

Speaker 6 (32:59):
But it is an event. It is literally it's.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Called they hang a big sign called the sixty fifth Parish,
and it's become the place that every politician in the
state goes.

Speaker 6 (33:07):
But also all these people and it's.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Hips even inaugurations. Well, it's amazing.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
Well but here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
It literally this year with Trump's inauguration, it's almost eclipsing
it because it's happening for three It starts three days later,
and so Marti Gras has literally taken over the inaugural
week and Louisiana has taken over Washington cea.

Speaker 6 (33:27):
It shoots.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
It kind of shows the power of our culture when
we give it a shot everywhere. Your thoughts on that
as as a political commentator.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Well, the Washington Marti Gras is it's a different kind
of thing that. I mean, it's a it's a fun thing,
but it's also a lot about business. All right, Oh yeah,
what isn't No, the ball itself is that Saturday, I
guess starting that Wednesday or so, there are all up
of organizations that are sending on invitations to parties, you know,
lobbyist groups of different parishes and cities and so the

(33:56):
left that's that kind of thing that goes on. The
ball itself is kind of like a it's kind of
like an Endemion ball and that there's bands and there's
music and there's a parade. The thing is it's a
small scale parade. Uh uh. You know they bring the
floats in either are the kind of floats that you
can kind of push in and push around all one
kind of thing. Uh and uh. But I mean it's

(34:19):
a good thing. I mean it brings people from around
the state together and so it's in a good business.
It's in the Washington Hillton Hotel, which is like the
biggest ballroom space in Washington. Uh and so it's a
it's a big event. But but what they want to
say about Lindi gru about the first Lindi Gras and
that's been part of it ever since. Is that in

(34:39):
talking about the idea, we said, okay, we'll bring we'll
bring recks and we'll have these ceremonies. And then and
this has never been hey, this has never been part
of Morti Gras before. Then we'll have fireworks. And you know,
we asked the Arouse people, could you all put on a
fireworks show, which is you know, several thousand dollars to
do that, and he said, sure, we'll do that, and

(35:00):
so they arranged to do the fireworks show. And so
until that year, I mean, you think fireworks have always
been a part of Marti gross and then uh, and
then Rex said, okay, well we'll come in. But the
one thing is, you know, we're not commercial, so we
can't come in on a commercial vehicle. But we'll call
the coast guard. And so from the very beginning, coast
guards say, yeah, okay, we'll bring it in. So the

(35:20):
coast Guard has always been Rex's navy. Uh. Between between
that of those and with the coast guards, you get
color guards, you get all kinds of things like that. Okay,
So it started, it became really popular, the crowds loved it.
And then after a few years, Zulu says, well, you know,
we want to do this too. It seems like a

(35:42):
good thing. And so Rex is by uh uh by
Riverwalk and by this time the aquarium had just opened,
and so Rex goes to the aquarium people says, can
you do the same thing for us that uh that
riverwalker is doing? And the aquarium people what they can do?
They can say no to that, okay, And so they
got the stage and they got Zulu arriving. Uh. The

(36:03):
problem is that they need a boat, and so the
REPS people say, well, well, we'll call the coast Guard
see if they can give you a coast Guard cutter too,
And so the coast Guard became the navy for Ulu
and Rex. Uh, Zulu comes first, and then and then
the trecks, and so it just developed like that. And

(36:23):
then after a few years, the Zulu people call Rex
and they say Zulu was having an anniversary. I think
it was what it was, but anyway, having an anniversary,
and they said, you know, we think it'd be a
good idea, being that we're landing right down the river
and you're up the river, why don't Zulu come over

(36:44):
and greet Rex. Have Zulu meet Rex and the REPS
people looked around and they thought about it, and there
was questions not about racial but logistics. You know, how
can you do this? I mean, can you you know,
can you get the police to transfer everybody? But anyway,
so they agreed, Uh, they agreed that on that night
that the uh Zulu, after Rex arrived, Zulu would come

(37:07):
and he would greet Rex well where he got out
about this, And they caused so much excitement that there
were I'm not kidding, there were national editorials and newspapers
seeing this is a great moment and uh in racial
justice that Zulu was coming to meet Rex. And I
remember being there that night and there was the TV
crew from a Los Angeles television station there the cover

(37:29):
of this. I think they were reading more into it racially. Uh.
The fact is these guys and Rex had been working
with each other all the time because they need to
know play Carnival for most.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Most people, most people don't realize that Zulu and Rex
have a joint coordinating committee because so they and the
School of Design, which is Rex's, they helped support Zulu.
But but I gotta tell you, yeah, I gotta tell
you Eryl that I went the Louisiana Weekly. I went
back and looked at our own newspaper, which has always
been very connected to Zulu, and also Young Men's Illinois

(38:01):
and so and so forth, and the editorials that were
running then and all the coverage was they said, it
literally was the words we are finally recognized as equals
and this is in our local African American newspaper.

Speaker 6 (38:14):
So it was.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
It was.

Speaker 6 (38:15):
It was a seminal moment that you helped create.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
It.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Really wanted to take a couple of stories about that
about Zulu, and that is that when Zulu first started,
it was part of the reason for it was satire
to make fun of Rex and New Orleans Silver Stocking Group,
the highest society group of New Orleans.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
And it did a great job of it.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
You know, they wore he wore a tin can hat
like an empty a can of lard or something like that.
He was on a banana wagon with palm trees or whatever.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
It was a fun prate.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
It was a great parade and tatar making fun of Rex.
But do you know that some of the most prominent
members of REX at a private club and I know
because I have side information here, uh that back in
the whatever it was the thirties, maybe a Zulu was
going to shut down they flat run out of money,
was over with and then gentlemen, and I think you
got a couple of buddies, they stepped forward and they

(39:03):
paid to make sure Zulu did not end. And it
saved Zulu. So there's has been connection, a friendly, a
brotherhood connection if you will, between Zulu and works for
a long long time. I think it's a wonderful story.

Speaker 6 (39:15):
And Aero commingut, go ahead, Eryl, please welling table.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
I think was Zulu's greatest moment was the Marti Gras
after Katrina. So Katrina was what two thousand and five,
and so this would have been the two thousand and
six Marti Gras. Ray Nagan was mayor and he was
invited to go to speak to a group in the
Saint Tammany, Paris because there are a lot of displaced New
Orleanians who living there and so they wanted to know

(39:40):
the condition of New Orleans. So he went one night
and they had this big gathering. Again it was mostly
displaced New Orleanians and the TV a lot of TV
coverage and then there was this there were questions and
this woman they asking its relevant and stories is a
black woman for one of the one of the neighborhoods,
and she says, mayor, how can they even talk about

(40:03):
having a New Orleans having a Marti Gras when there's
so many people like us who were displaced, and Nagan
kind of in a weak moment, kind of agreed, not
realizing all the TV cameras that were back there. So
that night, when the ten o'clock news comes on the
leading story, Mary Nagan says, we shouldn't have Marti Gras
this year, all right, and so that became a big story.
Well that wasn't the sentiment at all, Okay, there was

(40:25):
a strong feeling that, of course we should yeah, bring
the city back possible. What made it possible, though, what
had to happen to get deal with this is that
Zulu had a mid take a stand on this, and
Zulu says, we want Marti Gras. Mardi Gras is part
of our culture sort of what we do, we need
to bring we need to bring it back. Had Zulu
opposed it, I don't think there has been a Martire.

Speaker 6 (40:46):
And it was Marti gro was already compressed that year. Arol.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
The ward I do We're in our last couple of minutes,
so I want to get through the interesting parties. While
the book is entitled When Rex Metzulu, it's a wonderful
series of chronicles of events that you've seen in the
history of New Orleans, and I was wondering if you
could really quickly for those that want to copy of
the book. It is available, of course online, but I
would highly recommend we have signed copies of the Garden

(41:11):
District Bookshop to come join us and get Errol the
Board's new book, When Rex Met Zulu. But it's it's
more than just this moment at Lundy Crawl. You have
this wonderful series of stories that you cover in the book,
and can you get a snapshot in just a couple
of minutes.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah, Well, there's a lot of stories about Cornvlin and
thank you for mentioning it. I think they're great stories
in there. But the thing about that moment when Rex
met Zulu that night, there was so much attention, The
crowd was really really excited. And again I was there,
I was acting as him to see that night, and

(41:44):
so what we did we really tease the event, like
everybody knew what was going to happen. We've pretended that
nobody knew, and so we made it an announced. So
ladies and gentlemen got it's announcement that Rex is about
to have a visitor. Okay, that's an important visitor that's coming.
And so the crowd, we built up the crowd and
again anyway, the moment came and we could say, ladies

(42:05):
and gentlemen, here is Rex's surprise visitor. Here is Zulu.
And Zulu came out that night with kind of like
that African motif sort of costume, which is what they
always wear. It looks so great. The crowd just with
nuts with it. They were just really crazy. And so
the sight of Rex and their traditional costumes and the
Rex people and then the mayor and the mayor of Sidney,
Bertolomyan and mayor has always loved this kind of stuff. Okay,

(42:27):
get this kind of thing. And to be dancing and
hugging and then they have the fireworks. It was just
a great moment and it's it's carried on every year
and it's really probably the most exciting moment of the event.
And then since then, Zulu expanded this participation that it
had the festival during the day, and so what was
once maybe a half hour event of Rex arriving now

(42:50):
is really expanded. But you know, Marty Gron never really
utilized the riverfront until then. This was the first time.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
And it was always larges and boats, which is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, but I mean as far as the public participation
sort of thought.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
Are yeah, well, I mean, and as you once pointed out,
prior to even Woldenberg Park, which is only a few
years but there and then definitely eighty four World's Fair,
most New Orleans didn't really have much of a relationship
with the river that you know, they had wharfs. So
this this was when this all happens. It's still a
relatively new concept to go to the riverfront. We're almost
out of time. Aerol a Board has been joining us.
The book, of course, folks, is when Rex met Zulu

(43:28):
and other chronicles of New Orleans, of the New Orleans
Experience and Errol, we want to thank you. I want
to also deliver a message from my friend Amy Kirk,
who of course was one of the founders of the
cru Jon of Arc. She said, if Erl and Peggy
had not founded forty Funny Fellows, there would never have
been a cruve Jean of Arc and a parade on
twelfth Night and she and she gives you a lot

(43:48):
of credit on that, so I think you deserve a
little credit coming back to how we.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Started this and for the part of what discovered. Officially,
jones birthday is January sixth.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Oh my god, Yes, that's where it's wonderful. She's a
great down it's a great movie about her writing. And
by the way, yeah called the Saints.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
So Errol final thoughts, thank you for joining.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Wait, one last thing for folks if y'all didn't know it,
Errol and his lovely wife Monitor and of like the
TV uh whatever people for Rex and the meeting of
the courts, every Marty girls, so and y'all have been
doing that for decades, right.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah, we've been doing this jeeuz dealtive forty years. Wow,
it's really amazing. It gets a huge audience. Yes, yes,
a lot of people has become part of people's ritual.
And no, I don't know if everybody makes from the
beginning to the end, okay, but throughout the year we
get a lot of people who watch it. I think
that there's moments that they like, Like everybody everybody loves

(44:47):
being bad and seeing that.

Speaker 5 (44:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah, and now there are girls who are like queens
and maids who like their little babies. Okay, yeah, they
could watch the parade them. I mean they could watch
it all of their I can kind of see. I
was done.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
Absolutely, you know what, for years and now they don't
do it anymore. I don't think.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
But for years, that event, the Meeting of the Courts,
was shown all around the world. And I don't know
how that happened, but if it was that big of
a deal all around the world.

Speaker 6 (45:14):
It's still a big a deal in wys of course.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
Yeah, every Carnival night, and and and Errol, we want
to we're looking. We're gonna be waving for you guys
when forty Funny Fellows goes by on Twelfth Night. We
also are gonna be looking forward to all your commentary.
But most importantly we're gonna be looking forward to reading
your your regular column now in the Times Peagining New
Orleans Advocate, of course, premiering talking about Twelfth Night on

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January fifth, and so thank you as always, and we
encourage everybody to get this new book. When Rex met Zulu,
Errol loboard. Always a pleasure. Thank you for joining us
here on the Founder Show.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
Thank you, Errol, it was great.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
God blessed and tell you bride, we all said hello
and we're are happy coming twelfth night.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
And you know, and you can always see Errol of
course on Informed Sources on WYS every Friday evening and
Sunday morning. Er thank you much and we'll be back.
We'll be back after these important messages, stay teamed. More
of the Founders Show with a patriotic moment right after.

Speaker 7 (46:05):
This rescue, recovery, re engagement. These are not just words.
These are the action steps we at the New Orleans
Mission take to make a positive impact on the homeless
problem facing the greater New Orleans area. Did you know

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in twenty twenty, homelessness in our community increased by over
forty percent. We are committed to meet this need through
the work being done at the New Orleans Mission. We
begin the rescue process by going out to the community
every day to bring food, pray, and share the love
of Jesus with the hopeless and hurting in our community.

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Through the process of recovery, these individuals have the opportunity
to take time out assess their life life and begin
to make new decisions to live out their God given purpose.
After the healing process has begun and lives are back
on track, we walk each individual as they re engage
back into the community to be healthy, thriving, and living

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a life of purpose. No one is meant to live
under a bridge. No one should endure abuse, no one
should be stuck in addiction. The New Orleans Mission is
a stepping stone out of that life of destruction and
into a life of hope and purpose. Partner with us
today go to www dot New Orleansmission dot org or

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make a difference by texting to seven seven nine four eight.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
B ohs behind the two shoements.

Speaker 5 (47:51):
Looks we're back in this chaplinhimc Internet. Is now time
for us to go into our chaplain.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Bye, Bob.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
Patriotic moment. Just take a brief moment to remind you
of the biblical foundations of our country are Judeo Christian jurisprudence.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Today, I'd like to have a quote from none other
than our Supreme Court back in seventeen ninety nine. That
far back, and it was by Justice Samuel Chase, one
of the most famous and greatest of all the Supreme
Court justices, and he said, by a form of government,
the Christian religion is the established religion, and all sects
and denominations of Christians are placed on the same equal footing.

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I mean, there was equality of religion of Christianity. There
wasn't like the Catholics, of the Episcopalians, of the Baptists
overriding the other groups. We were all on equal footing.
What a wonderful concept for government and how religions should
be treated in America, and how fundamentally Bible based our

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government truly is. We are a Bible based government, folks,
Never forget it. There's one of many I mean many, many, many.
I could go on over an hour or a couple
hours quoting Supreme Court decisions supporting what he just said
right here in different ways, but still the same concept. So, folks,
what about you. We can see the Supreme Court back then.
Definitely believe God need to be in the middle of government,

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but as God in the middle of you. And you know,
that's what Christmas is all about. It's all about God
becoming one of us, integrating himself into the human race.
When God became a man, that's one of the greatest
mysteries in the universe. How could a spirit manifest fully
manifest is something material that's called, by the way, the
hypostatic union of Christ. It means Jesus is one hundred

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percent God, the Son of God, God the Son, and
yet also one hundred percent man. He did all that
because of love, folks. See, love requires intimacy, and that's
exactly what the Gospel brings us. It brings us love
and God's intimacy. And to do that, he had to
be one of us. And he did, experiencing everything every
human being has ever been through. All the verse, he said,
He's tried in every temptation. He went through everything, folks,

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He went through the powers of the worst suffering in
this world. He did it all for you and me
so we could go to heaven when we die. You see,
we had too much sin, We had too many probers
for God to let us into heaven. So God came
up with a plan, a love plan. He would become
our problems, he would be turned into our sin. The
scripture says that we might be made the righteousness of
God in him. Now it's a gift that's given before

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we've been saved by grace that means gift. We've been
saved by a gift. We've been saved by Member Christ
by giving gifts Jesus the greatest gift ever given. We've
been saved by grace through faith. And even that is
not of ourselves. It is a gift of God, not
of works. Lest any man should boast. Folks, all that's
required is the faith of a little child. To put
faith alone in Christ alone. Believe that Jesus really did

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die for all of your sins, from the day you're
born and the day you died, your tiniest to your greatest,
since he died and paid for them all, washed him
away with his blood, and then he rose from the
dead to win for you his precious free gift of resurrection,
ever lasting life. It all comes to you, folks, the
moment you believe, and all you can do is believe.
For two beliefs you have to have. First belief is
believe you can't save yourself. That's called repentance. Realize that

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you're lost, damned and going to hell and totally helpless
without God. That's called repentance. And the moment you do that,
then you're free with all of your heart not half
of your heart, all of your heart. To believe that
Jesus really did die for all your sins was better
than rose Dead. If you're thinking, well, yeah, Jesus died
for my sins, but I got to do this good
thing and that good thing.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
You know.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
The Baptist say you got to walk the aisle of
the Catholic say you got to say the rosemary or whatever.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
We have all millions of different things. They say, that's
all your human effort, and that guarantees you hell. Because
we're just not good enough. The Scripture says, all of
that best we have to of forgot all of our righteousness.
It's filthy rerecs to God because we're not perfect. God's
a man's perfection because he's perfect. So if you've never
done this before, folks, do it now. Put faith alone
in Christ alone. Don't wait till it's too late, like
the old country priacher said, and like the scripture says,

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now today is a day of salvas. Believe that Jesus
really did die for all your sens in Rosema dead.
So folks, now it's time to talk for you with
you about another king. We talked about Marti guard kings.
We talked about the three kings, but there's another king,
a great king. He was a famous He was a
king from a very great aristocratic family in Myra, Greece.
His name was Saint Nikolas. We call him today Santa Claus.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
He was a real being.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
He became the patron saint of marriness of children of
bankers because what he did was he took his great
wealth and he gave it to the poor kids who
were being sold into slavery to save them out of slavery.
He spent his whole life doing that, preaching great sermons.
He was a dynamic debater at the great debate over
the Hippostatic Union of Christ, and he won the debate

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and gave us that great doctrine. Folks, this is one
of the most dynamic people that ever lived. This is
our testimony time, folks, where we just take a story
about some great man of God or woman of God
that from today are from the ancient world.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Whenever we find great people in God, we tell their
story because the scripture is by the blood of the
lamb and the word of their testimony. They beat the
devil and we're in the battle Folks, we're fighting the devil.
He tried to destroy Christmas this year. You know he's
a real grinch, not to play Grench, but the real one.
And folks, we need Jesus. Saint Nicholas certainly knew him

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and spread his mighty word.

Speaker 5 (53:02):
Will you do that? Will you get to know Jesus?
Believe today, Lord, don't I mean, folks, don't wait us
another second. Believe that Jesus really did die for your
sins and rosebud. That can be your Christmas gift back
to God. He's already given us. He's just waiting for
us to give back to him. And we do it
with his love and our love gift to him is
just plain and simply belief. Believe that Jesus really did
die for your sins and rose with dead. We'll focus

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time for us to close now as we close with
him on Saint Martin singing a creole goodbye.

Speaker 6 (53:27):
And God bless all out there?

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Does this have to be the end of the ND?

Speaker 6 (53:36):
You know I love you.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
In the pamal land, I can see across the million
stars a look at

Speaker 1 (53:54):
We can pusey it's the same day