How To Improve Public Education In Louisiana

Hy and Christopher ponder how to improve public education in Louisiana, and one of the best opportunities that is going on is happening up in Monroe.  The first International Baccalaureate school, with the IB educational program available for students from the very beginning opens its doors in Monroe.
Educator Adam Ryland joins us to talk about the opportunities of multidisciplinary education and engagement with students.  St. Frederick High School in Monroe is an IB World School offering the Middle Years Program (MYP) for grades 7-10, focusing on inquiry, international-mindedness, and holistic student development. While this is a prominent IB school in the area, other schools worldwide offer various IB programs, such as the Diploma Programme (DP) for the final years of high school.  It offers hope for the Pelican State’s moribund  educational system.
Hy, then, embarks on a monologue on the impact of Charlie Kirk on free speech and the political environment.
We also mentioned the Mayor’s race and the impact of turnout…
Duplessis’ Fight for Black Votes
By Christopher Tidmore
The L.I.F.E. Ballot endorsed Councilwoman Helena Moreno for Mayor of New Orleans.  The Louisiana Federation of independent Electors, an organization of which Dutch Morial co-founded and for which Marc Morial served as guiding force for decades, has advocated for a white candidate to become mayor.  The organization most identified with the fight to elect the first Black mayor nearly nearly five decades ago now endorses a white candidate.
This is just a glimpse of the climb that Sen. Royce Duplessis must accomplish by 8 PM on October 11. He must convince a supermajority of Black voters in Orleans Parish to cast for him in order to have a shot at a runoff slot and another month to fight. The state Senator’s original strategy of creating a biracial coalition, particularly with Republican support, has collapsed as 53% of GOP voters back Moreno and the remainder tend to support the Republican candidate Frank Janusa.
Duplessis’ best hope would be to force a runoff by a narrow margin, and the chances of that are as narrow as electorally conceivable.  Moreno commanded 49 percent in a University of New Orleans survey last week, followed by Duplessis with 15 percent and Councilman Oliver Thomas with 13 percent.
However, one in five respondents remain undecided, with an overwhelming number of these African-American voters, and upon this Black electorate Duplessis has gambled.  The state Senator runs on a strategy of African-American dissatisfaction with the fights between the city council and the mayor and anxiety of electing another Caucasian mayor of New Orleans in a Black majority city. Consequently, he seeks to drive up African-American turnout, with himself as the beneficiary.  It is the only means for Duplessis’ gambel to pay off and earn a runoff slot— if Black voters respond to his message.
The state Senator responded to a question in a recent forum that underlines his strategy. He subsequently broadcast this question on every social media platform, almost minute by minute. As Duplessis explains his campaign thesis, “The one thing we’re not gonna do is ignore race.  Because race-bases issues cannot be solved by avoiding the conversation around race.  Your question pointed out the stark racial disparities around economics in New Orleans. New Orleans is still a majority Black city, but we’re not just a majority Black city.  We are one of the most culturally rich cities in the world where the contributions of Black people mean so much—not just a New Orleans culture—but to the entire world.”
However, Helena Moreno has done a very good job in courting African-American voters, and their leaders, which could thwart the state Senator’s strategy. Congressman Troy Carter, heads the other political faction in Orleans Parish, and he endorsed the Councilwoman’s campaign, just like L.I.F.E. and a myriad other Black elected officials—leading to questions of whether higher turnout will even affect Moreno’s glide-path to 50.1 percent on October 11.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
Future of public education here in Louisiana and the International
Baccalaria program, as well as a report from the snows
of Glacier National Park. In this edition of The Founder Show.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
And God bless all out there, you are now listening
to the founders. So the voice of the founding fathers,
You're Founding fathers coming to you deep within the bowels
of those mystic and cryptic alligator swamps of the Big Easy,
that old Crescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana, and up on
top of that old Liberty Cypress tree way out on

(01:03):
the Eagles Branch, this is none other than your spingary
Baba O the republic Chaplain Hi mcnry.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
With Christopher Tidmore, you roving reporter, resident radical moderate and
associate editor of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at Louisiana Weekly
dot Net and One of the frequent questions we asked
both on this program and in the Louisiana Weekly, is
the state of Louisiana's education. How can we make it better?
So many different theories have been put forward, from the
charter school programs to vouchers, to testing to everything. But

(01:36):
the interesting part is there was already a model that
we've talked about on this radio show that's been very effective,
not just in Louisiana, not just in the United States,
but internationally. That's actually in the name. It's the International
Bacca Larreat program. It was something that people have associated
with France, but actually their programs are all over the country.
And we had the international head of the IB program

(01:58):
on this radio show just under a couple of months ago,
and one of the things he told us about was
that something revolutionary was happening in Louisiana, an International Baccalariat school,
and IB school was actually opening from scratch. Most of
the time, when a school wants to become an IB school,
it's a multi year process where they may take on

(02:19):
a few students, a few classes and kind of evolve
into International Baccalariat schools with their curriculum and so on.
Louisiana already on the forefront of educational experimentation, has actually
will be the host to one of the first fully
formed IB schools anywhere. And one of the men putting
together this incredible project is Adam Ryland. He is joining

(02:44):
us from what is going to be Louisan is now
Louisiana's first IB International Baccalariot school. And Adam, welcome to
the founder show here in wr ANDO and WSLA. And
for those that are saying IB International Baccalariat it sounds
like TV. What is this actually? Just for people who
haven't heard our previous shows, what is the International Baccalaureat program?

(03:06):
Why is it special?

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Well, first of all, thanks for having me on your program.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
The International Baccalaureate is a like you said, an international
educational program with international standards UH and assessment that takes
place in the spring of every year for thousands of
students across the United States and across the world. The
standards are high, UH, and the learning is is different

(03:31):
than I think traditional education. It's as much deeper learning.
It's experiential learning. And so when we got the opportunity
to jump on board, we were very excited about the opportunity.
I do want to clarify one thing. We're not going
to be the first IV school in Louisiana.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
But first one.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
The first one I was I was saying, the first
one starting from scratch. I know you won't be the
first school in Louisiana, but Brett, we.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Are the first. We're the first school too, and the
only school that I know in the country right now
because it's starting in Louisiana to participate in the pilot program.
This was rolled out last spring, and the idea was
that it would give early access to schools to the
IB programs and the diploma level classes that are for

(04:18):
grades eleven and twelve and so typically, like you said,
you have to go through a long process of authorization.
This allows you to teach these classes. You do have
to form them first. You have to create outlines for
the courses based on the IB standards. But once those
are approved, then you can teach those classes without full

(04:39):
authorization for the program. So we're currently teaching three different
classes this fall, history, biology, and literature, and our students
will be able to take the assessments at the end
of the second year and get that experience and get
those classes on their transcripts so that they can so

(05:00):
that they can take that with them when they go
to college.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, we know, Adam, that IB classes tend to be
a little bit more rigorous, they tend to be a
little bit more student focus. And we also know that
when universities see international baccalaureate programs and certainly a back
exam that has been passed, it's pretty much a open
door to go to almost any university on Earth. But
most people don't ask they asked the question, well, what's

(05:25):
different about them? What's so special about an IB class?
Why should we care? Why is this a model? Why
is this something that could be the save salvation for
Louisiana students.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
I think one big difference is that it's centered around
the student. When you take a look at the website,
you'll see the program model for the diploma program, and
it's the very center of the program model is what's
called the learner profile. The learner profile is ten characteristics
of an ideal student. And so I just look at
that as a profile of a graduate. So if you

(05:58):
have a student graduating from your school, and if we
ask teachers this, I think educators are across the world
degree that you want your students to be critical and
creative thinkers. You want them to be principled, you want
them to be caring, you want them to be balanced,
et cetera. And those qualities at the center of this
program is one thing I think that makes a difference.

(06:20):
Another difference is the fact that they have six subject
areas as opposed to the traditional core four. So the
core four you know, math, English, science, and history, and
we have two years of language requirement in Louisiana. But
the IV allows them to go further in a second language,
which I think is increasingly more important. So they're able

(06:41):
to take six years of Spanish at our school, for example.
And then the sixth subject area is the arts. And
as we know in Louisiana, the arts don't get the
most funding.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
The most funding lucky if they get any funding at them.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Exactly.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
So.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Uh So the fact that there that the arts are
held held up as as as equal as important, I
think is important as well. That's it. It was valuable
to us. And you know, in a state like Louisiana
where the arts are so important, you know, I mean
it's part of who we are as a culture. So

(07:20):
the fact that the arts are emphasized. We we really
appreciate that too. I think that makes it a different program,
you know, so, I mean there are there are lots
of other things that Another thing that makes it different
is the way it's assessed. You know, the typically I
think in most schools, you know, you you give lectures,
you give information. Uh, the teachers give a test. It's

(07:41):
a multiple choice tests maybe, uh, you know, you get
an objective grade back and then you move on. The
way the I V works is different. You instead of
being tested on what you don't know, essentially, you're given
the opportunity to write about what you do know. So
most of the assessments are writing based. So every teacher
in the IB is a language teacher.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Thank god. And so many of these kids, Yeah, these
kids don't know how to write. And you just mentioned it.
It's not just in English, it's it's history, it's even
the sciences, it's in the stam professions. They have to write,
they have to actually perform essays, and that's the essences
of the entire you know. That used to be common
sense for teaching, and frankly it's almost abandoned. I mean,

(08:25):
it's we found we don't teach Adam Ryland.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah, and you know students Now, I was just going
to say students. Students want the opportunity to talk about
what they do know, and they want the opportunity to
make connections between subject areas, and this gives them the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
So Adam Ryland's joining us. He's part of the first
ib School International barclay At school that's basically starting from
the very basics instead of evolving over the years. And Adam,
where are you? Where you located in Louisiana? Just so
for people that didn't catch it.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Early on Louisiana Monroe here in Monroe. Yeah, we're in Monroe, Louisiana.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
And there was no IVY schools in and around Monroe,
even as large as community as it was before you
did this.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah, that's right. We have we have schools in East Texas. Uh,
we have school in Memphis. There are schools in South Louisiana,
of course, but we're sort of in the in the
in sort of a no man's land. So again, we
we decided to do this because we felt like we
could offer something different in this area and uh and

(09:30):
give students the opportunity to go to an IVY school,
and I think there's a lot of uh, there's a
lot of development in this area that's gonna it's gonna
be it's gonna make this school hopefully make the school
attractive to people coming into the area.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
For the metapil, yeah, I mean yeah, it was like
a small, little meta facility that takes over two miles
and enough megawatt hours to power a small aircraft carrier.
So Monroe is gonna be one of the boom areas
of Louisiana. From AI and from the Fort the meta
platforms that will be based here, or the servers. But

(10:02):
what was really intriguing to me is how you guys
are setting up this school from scratch to be duplicatable elsewhere,
not just in Louisiana but in the world, but particularly
here in Louisiana, where our charter school system allows us
to innovate and create new curricula as long as we're
educating our kids up to state standards. Can you talk
about how your school that you're doing in Monroe could

(10:22):
be easily replicated elsewhere around Louisiana Because we talk about
IB schools in the southern South Louisiana but that really
aren't that many. I mean, one of the closest true
IB schools to where I am in Uptown, New Orleans,
the International School was that for a while, but really
it's over in Hammond. It's they're not that many IB
schools in this state compared to other places.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah, in Hammond and at the LS Lab School. You know,
one of the things that makes it possible, I think,
you know, is that you have access to really high
quality and structors at those universities. I mean, we are,
you know, we are tapping into the resources that we
have through Universe to Louisiana Monroe, you know. But I

(11:03):
think really another thing that we're finding out is that
just like all students can become IB students, all teachers
can become IV teachers. One of the things that's really
really I think encouraging about the IB is that it's
it's got a rigorous teacher training program as well. All
teachers have to go to training, and we had to
send you know, the three teachers that are teaching these classes,

(11:26):
we had to send them to to training so that
they could learn best practices along with the IV standards.
So yes, I think that this this this method is.
I think you can replicate it all over the state
of Louisiana because the standards are strong and they're also flexible.

(11:46):
So you know, a school that is trying to make
some positive changes become a little bit maybe more progressive
and a little bit more global can adapt the IB
principles to the criticulum they have and expand. So you know,

(12:07):
for example, we're able to tap into the local culture
of Louisiana by doing cross curricular things related to Marti
Gross for example, the fact that the literature and the
history and the music is all intertwined and and you
can turn that into a cross disciplinary, multidisciplinary lesson plan

(12:28):
for your students and IB and it lends itself well.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
And Adam Ryland that's one of the things I love
of the International Baccularia program. So much of the learning
is interdisciplinary. It is you're not just going into your
math or going into your English. You're actually learning of
a subject across the board in multiple subjects, and it's helping,
you know, the sum becomes more than the whole of
the parts. And I'm very curious. You know, there's there's

(12:54):
people who have talked to in the Department of education
in Louisiana. Who say, our dream is that we would
have a state charge at IB school no more than
thirty minutes away from any student in Louisiana. That's a
big thing, given the expense, the amount of training and
effort it takes to go to school. But is it
an absurd thought?

Speaker 4 (13:11):
You said, is it an absurd thing to.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Have that we could actually have? Is it an absurd
thought to have an IB school no more than thirty
minutes away from every kid in the next twenty five years?
Is that a realistic goal? Because we do know that.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
If I was going to say, I think that would
be a dream come true. I mean, that'd be awesome.
I would love You know, my kids are almost out
of high school, but I wish that that my kids
when they were younger would have had access to an
IV school and you know through the continuum from the
pyp is the primary years program starts when they're you know,
in grade school, all the way up through middle school,

(13:46):
the Middle years program, and all the way to graduation.
There aren't that many full continuum schools in Louisiane me either. Again,
could if we could do that across the state? I
think that not only would it raised state standards, but
it would create some of the best students.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
In the country, and it would create a lot more
opportunities to go to universities around the country as well.
That passing the International Baccalaric exam absolutely pretty much is
your entrance to almost any school. We always talk about
in Louisiana how we can improve schools. We've gone up
somewhat in reading in math scores, but the fact of
the matter is we're having our lunch eaten by Mississippi

(14:24):
right now. So I'm hoping somebody that in the Governor's
office and the Department of Education is listening to this.
Especially with the charter school structure of Louisiana. It is
not impossible to start these schools. It is actually much
easier here. Not simple or much simpler, I should say,
not easy to be able to do it, but it
requires commitments and a lot of educational establishments are not

(14:45):
exactly what would call the most flexible or innovative groups
of people we've ever seen. So, you know, I commend
you for what you're doing up in Monroe with the
first IB School.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Well thank you. I mean what it what it really requires,
This investment.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
You know, it.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Is an investment in dollars, but it's it's an investment
in time. And I think that if an effort, if
more schools decided to take this on, that the investment
would absolutely pay off, not just in the kind of
students that they would create in the opportunity for those students,
but I think it would be a boon economically for

(15:21):
the state because you would have a much more not
just informed, but much more capable citizenry in workforce.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Adam Rland. Somebody wanted to find out more about starting
an international bacclare at school in their community, maybe just
trying to start up a charter school or trying to
integrate it with an existing school structure, where would they go?

Speaker 4 (15:45):
IBO dot org would be the good place to start.
That would be the best place to start the website,
and there are lots and lots of resources there. They're
also happy to more than welcome to reach out to me.
I'm at Saint Frederick High School in Monroe, Louisiana, and
be happy to talk to anybody who's interested.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
At Ryland Sat Frederick High School in Louisiana, one of
the first ib programs to be started essentially from the
very beginning at when the school. We really appreciate you
joining us here in WR and no WSLA and The
Founder Show, and we appreciate your insights. We're hoping that
Louisiana's educational system over the next fifty years can be

(16:26):
proclelled to one of the models in the country. And
we've made some great advances in the last few years,
but it seems something is lacking. We hope that maybe
the IB example, with its multidisciplinary education, it's writing, it's rigor,
and frankly it's focused on the kids, might be an answer.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah, I agree, and thank you again so much for
having me on your show, allowing me to talk about
this amazing program in our school and our kids. I'm
very proud of our kids, how they've taken this on
and run with it.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Adam Ryland, thank you very much. We'll be back after
these important messages with more the Founder Show right after this.
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Speaker 3 (19:57):
And Chaplinhi mcenry, and thank you Christopher. And a great concept,
the Back of Art International Back of Art Program. It
has had tremendous results. It's reminding me of of education
from years gone by. It's my generation where we had
remarkable educations. We were so much better educated. It's stunning

(20:19):
what I knew in the eighth grade and in high
school that I see young people in college don't know
anything about I even had a college kid tell me
that one time. In my military unit, and there were
all a bunch of young guys. I was always the
old guy and we were, you know, as a team,
an OHDA team, and uh, most of them were a
lot younger than I was, and we just, you know,

(20:40):
we'd have our conversations and especial for us, that's a
green rays. We're intellectually heavy. You have to have a
high IQ and a high grade on the AZDAV test
that's like your aptitude test to be able to get
in the unit because we deal with advanced systems, advanced
cultural issues, et cetera, et cetera, and you have to
have some smart st be in this in US Army

(21:01):
special for it's not just braun, it's also brain. And
so we'd get into some great discussions and oh they
were just fascinating and I'll never forget. One of the
young guys came to me, he said, Hi, he says, listen,
I don't know what if you know it, but we
don't understand half of what you're saying. And I'm not
saying it's your line to us. We're just not there,

(21:22):
and I thought, what I knew this back in high
school and college. These guys were all out of college
by now. I couldn't believe it. And that was the
first time I began to realize that now this was
back in the in the early it was like in
the late eighties, late eighties when I had this experience
with this young guy, great kid. And so, folks, we

(21:44):
need to save our educational programs in this country, and
this International baccal Art program will do it. I just
hope people are paying attention and they're not going to
let other academic systems trash it because they may think
they're going to lose some you know, lose territory, lose
some some ground there, and and and uh and so

(22:06):
they would rather sacrifice quality to make sure they hold
their old positions or whatever. And unfortunately that's what gets
in tremendously heavily into academia where they're all uh stabbing
one of the back. I was there, I've been, I've seen,
I've been in the middle of it. It's it's horrible.
What it's many times it's a snake pit and they're
not looking out for what's really best for the kids
or the students. They're looking out what's best for me,

(22:28):
the teachers, and especially the administration. So hopefully they can
get through that and we can get some serious IB
programs going to who's ever influential? Only this out there
listening to it, you might want to take a serious
looking to it and see if you can figure out
ways to get this IB working in our schools. It's
a great program. I'm so glad Christopher brought it to
the program. He found the head guy, the head of

(22:52):
the whole international program. We had him on our show
a few months ago. And now we got this young
guy up in North Louisiana where and you know, wanted
to take some time for the show today to again
remember Charlie Kirk and a man who was very involved
with academics, by the way, because we spent all his
time in college campuses. He was an amazing man. He
dropped out of college, you know, he finished the semester

(23:14):
he was in, but then he gave up his dream
of a college degree because for several reason. One reason
was he realized he didn't fit in that his belief
system were so contrary to the woke programs and the
politically correct programs in academia, that he would just be
fighting with his professors all they'd be disagreeing with him,
and he may end up like in the movie, if

(23:35):
you ever saw the movie God is Not Dead, the professor,
their famous professor attacked a medical pre med student and
was going to flunk him. He's going to ruin his
medical career as a freshman because he would not write
on a paper God is Dead and sign and dat
his name. Wouldn't do it, and so the professor put

(23:55):
him on trial in the class, was going to verbally
and you know, emotionally, psychologically and academically destroy him before
the other students because they all panicked and signed, and
when the paper went around, this man would not. And
he ended up having a debate with the professor and
he won. I mean, he slammed dunk the professor and
the students saw it and they were the judges, and

(24:17):
they all voted in favor of this young kid, you know,
pre student. And at the accolade at the end of
the show, they scrolled down what looks like hundreds maybe
of schools colleges that are being sued for doing this
to their students. I mean, this is a problem, folks,

(24:39):
This is a real problem. There's no freedom in academia.
Charlie saw that. So he thought, I'm gonna fight that.
I'm going to stand up and I'm gonna speak for
truth and truth to power and whatever happens happens. He
figured out he could maybe get help from the Republican
side of the Democrats, definitely, but you know, they love
this woke DEI insanity, they love it. And you know

(25:02):
they love the whole gender confusion, garbage everything. They feed
on it. And so he knew the Democrats would not
help him, so he went to the Republican side. He
went to a convention they had, and they said he
was like a kid in a candy shop. He was
bouncing around all over the place. He was you know,
he's young, eighteen years old, full of energy, full of optimism.
And one of the people who tried to advise him

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and help him said, no, look, Charlie, you got to
calm down. You got to you gotta get a better
vision here, because you really are to kind of off
base and and and in fact, you got to whispered around.
Watch this young guy. He's nuts, he's crazy, he's gonna
cut he's going to create a lot of problems for us. Well,
that didn't stop Charlie. He kept going. By the way.
There was also a man who met him there and

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advised him stay out of school. A very wealthy and
prominent Republican saw Charlie's talent and said, Charlie, you had
to just go out on your own. You had to
start going to like free speech alleys and colleges and
starts speaking your mind. And yeah, if they shut you down,
they run you off. They may get violent. Democrats are
very violent people. Liberals are very violent. Their entire history

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is the history of violence, tremendous violence. And in fact,
he ended up being a recipient in that, as we
all know so. And he took the advice. He didn't
know where he was going to go with it. Look
at what happened in eleven short years. This man created
the largest student movement I think in the history of
our country. And it was all happening. I did know,

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of course, I'm not in touch with the universities. I
had no idea how big it had gotten. I knew
he had influence with the Republican Party. I knew he
was an asset to the Republican Party. But I thought
him as just being you know, doing twenty maybe thirty
speeches a year and you know events a year, and
you know, having some effect on the Republican Party and

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their elections. And maybe it had ten or twenty people
on his staff, but that's about all I thought he
was about. You know, that's it. He's a voice on
some of the TV show those occasionally he had a
blog site. I had no idea how big he had gotten.
When he passed away, it all came out. He had
already established over three thousand, five hundred chapters around the country. Folks.

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That is humongous. That is so huge. But it didn't
just stop there, folks. Do you know that since his death,
within the first three weeks of his death it's been
about four weeks now, but within the first three weeks,
over one hundred and twenty thousand applications have come in

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to start new chapters on the various colleges and high
schools of American In fact, the state of Oklahoma is
made it a law that they have to have a
turning point chapter in every high school they have, Folks.
That is astounding. This may have been the biggest strategic

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mistake the Democrat Party has ever made in their lives.
And I'm saying Democrat Party because it was Democrats or
Democrat minded people, big liberals, whatever they were, the ones
who were calling for the death of Charlie Kirk and
Donald Trump and several others calling them Nazis, calling them
Hitler saying you know, if you knew about Hitler when

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he was two years old, would you kill him? Well,
most people say yeah, I think I would, you know,
save millions of lives. Right, They're putting that type of
insanity and that those lives in the minds of young
people and especially unstable people, and they know they're doing it,
they know what's going on. And then you look at
these websites like Reddit and others, hate mongering websites that

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are teaching young people to hate their opposition if you will,
to kill and murder and planning how to murder people.
I mean, it's phenomenal what's going on in these sick
o websites. I think they need to shut them down
on the grounds if you can't freedom of speech, but
you can't scream five in a crowded auditorium. You can't
do that that you're going to kill a lot of
people if you do, and it's not the right way

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to evacuate an auditorium, and especially if there's not even
a fire. So, folks, Uh, this is getting very interesting
what's going on. But I think it's getting very exciting.
And I've talked to a lot of people. People are
amazed over what they're hearing. Others saying, I've talked to
I don't know how many you know. I'm in the ministry.
I'm Ordain Someuth Baptist minister. I go by the title
Chaplain High mc henry, and that is I've had many

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ministry friends and pastors and whatnot. Ministry leaders tell me
that they've never seen what is happening right now in
their various churches ministries, and they're saying people who've never
been to church or coming to their church. And I
want to join this church because I want to support
Charlie Kirk. This is happening all over the United States
right now. This is stunning. I'm still in a state

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over this saying it's wonderful. But folks, it's coming. It's
going to be a hard fought battle. The opposition is extreme,
maly strong, extremely determined, and extremely violent, and they think
they're going to create enough violence to scare us off. Basically,
it's what they're doing. Typical Communists, typical Nazi. I don't
know the difference between the Communists and the Nazis really.

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I mean, I could tell you the official philosophical differences
and all that, but when it comes to what they
actually do, there's almost no difference. Even in how they function,
how they run their operations. The philosophical differences are a null.
But no one can ever give me the answer to that.
By the way, I guess I'll tell you 'all. Here's
a question, what's the difference between a fascist and a communist?

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I get crickets every time I asked that question. I've
asked it for years. Really smart people, they don't know, uh,
you know, the differences. It's really simple, it's so simple. Well,
first of all, the similarities are they're both dictatorship. They're
both ruthless dictatorship, and that's in their philosophy, that's in
their you know, statements of their operational statements. And the

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other thing is they believe that we can all share
everything equally. Well, that's never worked in the history of
the world. The Church tried it in the first century
and it was a miserable failure within a year. And
guess what, you never hear of it again in the Bible.
Great idea just doesn't work. Humans aren't that good, even
good church folks, we're just not that good. You got
to be like a super good everybody in your group

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has to be so honest and so good and decent
that it'll work. But you get one bag egg and
you always have them. Jesus had one, remember's name was Judas.
In fact, you said there'd be tears among the wheat,
there'd be wolves and sheep's clothing. So that's why communism
or fascism always fails, and it fails from within it,
and it fails miserably. No matter how strong they get,
it's always a total disaster because they don't share equally.

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Just for starters. You know, when Stalin had millions of
his people dying of famine, he was building thirteen mansions.
That's why he was sharing them wealth, isn't it. He
even engineered a lot of these famines. So communism and
fascism are very similar. The difference is this. In communism,

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the state owns your property. In fascism, you own it.
The only problem is in fascism the state has total
control over you and what you own. Of course, in communism,
if your property that means even your physical body like
a slave, same definition as a slave. Then who do
you think controls you? Well, the communist state of course

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controls you. So in both cases it's total control over
the people. They have no freedoms, and the government do
what they want to do with them, and they do
in the most horrible and imaginable ways. Free enterprise is
the only way to go, folks. And of course that
was one of Charlie's messages. He would explain all this
stuff just like I did to you, and he would
send the professors and the students into hyperage fits. And

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because they didn't like his viewpoint, they claimed he was
hating them. Well, you know, everybody disagrees. This is part
of the tum in nature human condition. We're always disagreeing.
In the study of the history rates people disagree. I
disagree with a lot of things on the Pride, and
disagree with Christopher, right Christopher anyway, And so the rule
we have on the show that I established when I

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first started the show, when I got back from Afghanistan
in twenty eleven. I knew there was going to be controversy,
and so I came up with a plan. It's true
that we are going to disagree at times, So when
we disagree, let's just agree to disagree, but not be disagreeable.
It works every time people stay calm, people can present
their positions and get their thoughts out and share them

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equally with one of Hey, there's a little equality sharing.
Your thoughts may not be the same, but you get
to share them. So, folks, Charlie Kirk was an amazing person,
and I believe, possibly in his death, God will have
accomplished many, many times more than he could have while
he was still living. Time will tell. We're in the
early stage of this battle. People can get cold, people

(33:56):
can kind of give up, you know that. I've seen
it many times, when people get all excited about something,
then a few weeks later they've forgotten it. I'm hoping,
in praying this will not happen with the Charlie Kirk's issue,
and that he is going to become truly one of
the greatest and most dynamic leaders this country has ever known.
Even though I only lived, you know, his life was short.

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He was cut down at the tender at the young
age of thirty one, leaving a family, a lovely wife
and two beautiful kids. And to think that the way
the media has slaughtered him, mocked him, reviled him in
his death. These people are sick, folks, They are so sick. Well,
I've been hearing lots of testimonies, lots of stories. Whe

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on I heard at the end I think of this,
they had a memorial for him that lasted for five hours.
I've never seen heard anything like that, and it went
all around the world, went to hundreds of millions of
people heard this being over being people heard this and
in almost every case of speakers, and it didn't matter.
They don't have to be Christians, you know. Many of
some were Jews, some of Muslims. It didn't matter who

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the speakers were. These were top people in our government.
They all, and of course his pastor. They all had
a powerful biblical message for us, a message of love
and hope, and many of them shared the gospel. Clearly.
I've never heard politicians do that. Ever. This was stunning,
This was an amazing event. And so, folks, I know

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God's doing something big I'm hoping and praying we're on
the cuspo of a revival. I was part of a
revival in the early seventies, late sixties, early seventies at LSU,
And turns out it was happening all around the country
and actually all all around America because after college, I've
began a business group, prayer breakfast group, and met in

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my house in Covington, and we had huge numbers and
we had new people coming every week that had just
found Christ, new converts every week. My man, today, you're
lucky I still belong to these groups. You're lucky if
you get one every every year. So something big was
happening back then, and it happened, and it was wonderful,

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and uh, but we we went cold, folks, and you know,
woke took over. It's taken anyway. It's taking over the church.
It's disastrous what has done in the church. It's cursed
the church. And you know, our politically correctness, you know,
Big Brother Corporation, et cetera, et cetera. And so, uh,
they were these all these stories, and one of the

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stories was by Robert Kennedy. Now he's a devout Catholic.
Of course, the Kennedy is a very Catholic. I know
the Catholic Church very well from New Orleans. You can't
hardly miss it. But guess what, folks, I was raised
to be a Catholic, and I was a very devout Catholic.
I took it so seriously. I couldn't go to bed
to night without saying the Rosary. I was hardcore. I
was fighting Hell, I was fighting the devil, and I

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was loving Jesus and the Church, and and I thought
that's what my life was going to be all about.
And as it turned out, it was uh years later,
of course, I ended up as a Baptist minister, not
because I don't like the Catholics. I just found things
I wanted to do with the Baptist And I've developed
a sense of great freedom and liberty in Christ where

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you can you can take whatever church you like and
make that your church. You don't have to be in
just one church. And that's like the only one true
church in the world. It's not, folks. So I still
do a lot of Catholics things. Go to Manores. I
love Manray. I try to get everybody I can to
go there. Senner of Jesus, the Lord, which was founded
by our father France, one of the finest preachers I've

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ever known in my life. Love that man. So I'm
not like totally removed from the Catholic Church, but I
know the Catholics and like at man Resa, when we start,
you know what the priest says every time, he says, no, folks,
brand new. You know, it's the first night. So I
want you all to know. We are good Catholics here,
most of it, most of the people are, he says,
but they know they have Jews, they have Hindus, they
even have some Muslims there, but mainly Catholics. That's true,

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he says. Oh, we're all good Catholics here, he said,
But I want you to know something. We Catholics don't
study the Bible. We don't know the Bible. We don't
even read it. Many of us don't even have Bibles.
But guess what, on this retreat, you're going to become
a Bible student because Ignacious Loyal was one of the
greatest Bible students and scholars in church history. And that's true.
I really love the things that I've learned about Loyal

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and his theology and whatnot. He was trying to do
the reformation within the Catholic Church instead of starting another
Protestant church. He thought he could do that in the church.
He did a great job anyway. So we don't study Bibles,
he says, And so you have to understand that to
understand Kennedy's remark. Here he's helping his teenage daughter, granddaughter

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packed for camp, and he noticed it's a Bible she's packing,
and it kind of stun him. You know, we Catholics,
we don't really study the Bible. And so he asked her,
why are you bringing a Bible? And listen to her response.
She said, yes, Daddy, I want to be just like
Charlie Kirk. When I first heard that, I couldn't stop grining.

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It was so powerful. And I realize kids like that
are happy. It's like that's having with kids all over
this country, all kinds of people, young people, old people,
you name it. But you know, it's really, in many
ways a youth movement, thank God. And I want to
play something from a young gallup picked up on the internet.
These things are all over the internet right now. Also,
you'll find all over the internet people hating on Charlie
shirt Kirk. You know, saying terrible evil things about him,

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on and on and on, but just they are just
as many or more people singing his praises because he
was truly a great man. So let me play this
for you. It's very powerful, it's very moving. I think
you'll really enjoy it.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
Now.

Speaker 7 (39:32):
I'm a four generation dry farmer. I believe in Jesus.
I believed in Charlie Kirk. I believed that our voices
were being heard. And I just want to say something
because I think it needs to be said.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
All of these people celebrating.

Speaker 7 (39:51):
His death, we never shot at you, We never threatened
your life. Charlie Kirk had open conversations of out what
he believed because he was a man of God. He
was a man of God that was brought to fight
along us Christians to bring back faith into our country.

(40:12):
Ten years ago, if you would have asked me that
I was going to be on national news and speaking
at events advocating for agriculture, I would have thought you
were crazy. I was getting into country music. I thought
that's where I was going to go, and so many
doors closed in that direction and opened for agriculture advocacy.

Speaker 6 (40:32):
I have been made fun of. I have been threatened.

Speaker 7 (40:36):
I have been told that my voice does not matter,
and that has just made me stronger.

Speaker 6 (40:42):
And as I've watched Charlie Kirk and been a part of.

Speaker 7 (40:44):
TPUSA for the last three years, I have watched God
work in him and create an open dialogue for everybody.
He never said that he hated anybody on the other side.
He never gave you no voice, He never shut down conversations.

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He always allowed you to be able to talk about what.

Speaker 6 (41:09):
You believed in.

Speaker 7 (41:11):
We as Christians have different values, and we are at
a spiritual war. And there are some of us that
want to speak up, and there are some of us
that would rather stay quiet. And I think after this
there is going to be a lot of people standing
up for our faith and our beliefs and protecting our
children and protecting the American dream and being patriots for
this country. The reason I started my advocacy in agriculture

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is because our farmers or ranchers are dying. We are
allowing land to be sold to foreign countries. We are
allowing more imports to come into our country and big
organizations to be selling to consumers and an outrageous price.
We are allowing our farmers to go bankrupt. We are
allowing our land and water resources to be taken up

(41:57):
by housing developments. We are allowing it because we cannot
stand up and be strong for our country. Ad committees
across the state have been silent about what is happening
in the agriculture industry. And that is why I started
my advocacy because even though you might not like me
and what I have to say, I have a passion

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for the future farmers and ranchers of America. I believe
that our next generation needs a chance to be able
to buy land, produce food, and be able to be
strong for agriculture industry.

Speaker 6 (42:30):
We need to keep food here in America.

Speaker 7 (42:33):
We need to support real milk, meat, poultry, pork, all
of it right, Because at the end of the day,
we are all different. We have different management practices, different regulations,
different environments that we face different costs. But isn't it
a beautiful thing that we are all created differently and

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God made that on purpose.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
God created us.

Speaker 7 (42:59):
To be able to produce food for our country. So
I just want to say to the American patriots, I
love you, Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 6 (43:10):
I'm praying for you. Erica and I know that there
are patriots.

Speaker 7 (43:14):
Stillness world that are strong enough to speak up for
what we believe in.

Speaker 6 (43:19):
No farms, no food.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Wow, folks, was that fantastic? What a remarkable message that
was from that precious young gal. And those are the
kind of people that were following Charlie to the tune
of now millions all across this country. There is a movement, folks.
Get ready for it. Be part of it. Don't get
left behind by history, don't be on the wrong side

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of history. Get with it. It's a wonderful movement and
it can save our country because this country is still
in a very dangerous state of affairs, a very dangerous
You know, we got this great president now who's doing
miracles if you haven't noticed, with the economy, with energy,
with education, with every known aspect of our country. We

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have a remarkable president, thank God for him. And with
our military. He's a law enforcement he's cleaning this country up,
which is long overdue. Of course, the illegals and especially
the violence and the dangerous illegals, and there are plenty
of them now. So folks, it is time for us
to take a break. But we will be right back

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in just a short while.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
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Speaker 1 (46:08):
Bid ows bind the two shoes.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Well, folks are back and you are listening to the
Founders show the voice of the founding fathers. Is not
a time for us to go into our chaplain by
ba patriotic moment. We just take a brief moment to
remind you of the biblical foundations of our country, our
Judeo Christian jurisprudence. And today we're going to talk about
education and God in early American education. And I'd like

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to just give you some quotes from universities, their charters
and whatnot. One of them is at Harvard University said this,
Let every student be plainly instructed and earnestly pressed to
consider well the main end of his life and studies,
and to know God and Jesus Christ in which eternal life.
That's John seventeen three. And therefore to lay Christ in

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the bottom as the only foundation and only sound knowledge
in learning. Seeing the Lord only giveth wisdom. Let everyone
seriously set himself in prayer in secret to seek it
of Him. That was Harvard University in their charter. Now,
let's see what Yale said. They were much longer. They
had a whole lot more about God, but at time
didn't allow. Here's a great one. All scholars from Yale

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University seventeen forty five. All scholars to live religious, godly,
and blameless lives according to the rules of God's Word.
That means a Bible, diligently reading the Holy scriptures, the
fountain of Light and truth, and constantly attend all the
duties of religion, both in public and in secret. What
Princeton said, it will suffice to say that the two

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principal objectives the Trustees had in view were science and religion.
Their first concern was to cultivate the minds of the
public and all those branches of erudition which are generally
taught in the universities abroad, and to perfect their design.
Their next care was to rectify the heart by inculcating
the great principles of Christianity in order to to make

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them good men folks. Ronald Reagan said that Christianity was
vital because it was the only you know. He was
a governor. He had a lot to do with education
California and in America, He said that that Christ was
so necessary and the Bible was so necessary to guide
men and to raise up good students, because it was

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the only thing that would give them their humility needed
to get along with other people. Interesting insight, now, George
Washington said, and I don't know that he founded any schools,
but he certainly had an influence in a lot of schools,
and he loved education, and he said that Jesus Christ
is the only true cornerstone for all education. The guy

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who wrote the Constitution, I don't mean the author that
was Madison. I'm talking about the recording secretary who gave
more speeches and had more to do just about than
anybody else for the writing of the Constitution. That was
Gouvernor Mars, known as the father of American education. He said,
of all schools public and private, private, the primary textbook
should be the Holy Bible. Benjamin Franklin founded the University

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of Pennsylvania and the public school systems of Philadelphia, I believe,
the first public schools in America, And in both cases,
in their charters he wrote that Jesus Christ must needs
be the cornerstone of this school. So folks, we can
easily see that the Finding Fathers, especially in education, really
wanted to keep God in the middle of it all,

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and they did. If we're ever going to make America
great again, we're working on that very hard. We got
to do what made America great to begin with, and
that was we had God in America. We were squarely
in the middle of what we were doing, not institutionally,
but philosophically. It should never be institutionally. Each the institution
of government, the institution of the church, and the institution

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of the family. There are three separate institutions established by
God in the Bible, and you don't combine them. That
was forbidden by scripture. They're separate institutions. Well, folks, what
about you? Is God your cornstone is Jesus right in
the middle of your life? Well, he needs be if
you're ever gonna make it to Heaven to glory. And

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I would think everybody here wants to go to heaven.
I don't think you'd ever want to go to Hell.
It's not gonna be very nice. It's gonna be horrible,
and it's forever. You never get out of hell. So
let me just tell you a few things you need
to know about going to heaven. First thing, you need
to know that the gospel is the power of God
into salvation. Now what is the gospel, and remember it's
the key thing. Well, the scripture tells us in One

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Corinthians fifteen before I declare to you the gospel that
Christ died for all of our sins, according scripture, was
buried and rose from the dead. According to the scripture,
that's the gospel. It goes on to say that you
have to believe in this too. The scripture says, believe
on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved. So, folks,
it all boils down to that, and your belief system

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for your eternal life is twofold. The first is repentance,
and that's when you believe you cannot save yourself. You're
hopeless and helps without God, destined to a burning hell.
When you come to that point in your life, you're
ready to put faith alone in Christ alone. You're ready
to believe that Jesus really did die for all your sins.
From the day you're born and the day you die.
Your tiny's the greatest sins. He died and for them all,

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and his blood washed them all the way. But first
you have to believe you can't save yourself. That's repentance.
The second part is just childlike faith in the gospel
message I just gave you. Folks, if you've never done
this before, please do it now. You may not get tomorrow.
Don't wait till it's too late. And like the Word
of God says, now, today is a day of salvation.
But folks, it's not time for us to go into

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our watchmen on the wall. We just take a brief
moment to show you the signs that are evident all
around us of Jesus as soon return. And the one
I want to talk about right now is found in
the Book of Daniel, where one of the signs are
over two hundred signs. Obviously we can't cover them all.
I try to cover a one or two of several
or every other show. But this was a fascinating sign.

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It said knowledge will in What does that mean? Simply
it'll increase. Do you know that by the early by
the Middle you know, early Middle Ages, Man had reached
its peak of knowledge and they didn't think they could
ever find any more knowledge, or you know, they didn't
have the printing press, but create any more knowledge than
what they had up until that time. Well they sure didn't.

(52:20):
Kind of missed it, hunt because when the print press
came out, all of a sudden knowledge began to escalate, and
it was like doubling every fifty years. Folks, today knowledge
is doubling every hour. Do you have any idea of
the exponential effect of that? And so once again another
bypical scripture has come true. Knowledge will increase In the end.
Knowledge is increasing off the charts right now of another

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fulfillment of biblical prophecy. They're over two hundred Jesus said,
they all have to be happening at the same time.
They are now, Folks, if you pay attention, they really are.
I wish I had hours to tell you all the
other signs and how they're here now. Now there's always
been wars and rumors of wars. Another sign, but folks,
now has an increase like it is today. No way clothes,

(53:03):
So without further ado, it is time for us to
clothes with a mind. Saint Martin singing a creole goodbye
and God bless you all out there.

Speaker 8 (53:16):
We call you creel goodbye. They think we just wasted
the time. A med all three savon. There's Time for

(53:37):
a creo goodbye.