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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Battles the politicians. Listener addressed the digitators and magicians. Who's
to see the money? Then you don't. There's nothing to
fill the holes while they are filling their pockets by holes,
the politicians bouncing down the road. Every body'sition to no

(00:26):
more corruption and dysfunction. It's gonna take divide is avention times.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Steve Scalice comes out and says, we ought to have
a pathway to amnesty. Will that heavy high price tag.
But first, ladies and gentlemen, the obituary and the cocktail,
you could say, the creations of New Orleans with the
expert herself, Seestrack and all this and more on this
edition of The Founder Show.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
And Christopher and it's a time of political extreme activity.
Perhaps it does require cocktail here and there, And folks,
God bless you all out there, you and now listen
to the Founders. So the voice of the founding fathers,
You're Founding Fathers coming to you deep within the bowels
of those mystic and cryptic alligator swamps of the Big Easy,

(01:11):
that old Crescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana, and high up
on top of that old liberty cypress tree draped in
Spanish moss way out on the Eagles Branches, none other
then your spin Gary Babbay, all the Republic Chaplain, Hi mcenry.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Christopher Tidmury, roving reporter, resident Radical Moderate and associate editor
of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at Louisiana Weekly dot net,
and Hi. They used to say in New Orleans that
we invented two things, the above ground cemetery. Only two things,
the above ground cemetery and the cocktail. The truth is
we invented neither, but perfected both that and the perfect

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embodiment of that history is social historian, journalist and historian
and author Sue Strachan, who's joining us here in studio
at the historic Opera guild House on Britannia Street. And
Sue you, Now, you were a well known writer formerly
of The Advocate in the on NOLA dot com, and
you write for New Orleans Magazine. Your byline is well known. However,

(02:10):
the cocktail world was totally impressed by your last book
on Crimboula in the history of the Cafe Diablo and
everything of the Fiery, Fiery Drink, and you decided to
go a little further drinks a new book that's coming
out on the eighteenth at a special event at the
Garden District book Shop called The Obituary Cocktail.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Tell us about it?

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Well, who could resist a cocktail name called, you know,
the Obituary Cocktail.

Speaker 6 (02:38):
You know.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Elsie Press approached me about doing these books back in
twenty nineteen, and it was in you it was quite
an honor to be asked to do that. So that's
how I got into the Caffe Bruleau. I had a
list and I picked the Kaffe Brulo because you know,
it's such a celebratory drink, and that took off in
twenty twenty one was published, and so then they came

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back and asked me twenty twenty three, would I want
to write another book? Looked at the list again, and
of course the Obituary Cocktail jumped out at me. And
also jumped out at me as well, because another well
known book has a similar title. That's The Obituary Cocktail
The Great Saloons of New Orleans, and that's a photography
book and text by Kerry McCafferty. A lot of people

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are familiar with that book, and I put homage to
it within my book as well, but not many bars
that people know about this cocktail. It's really truly forgotten cocktail.
And I've had a lot of fun going to bars,
you know, and seeing, you know, testing bartenders to see
if they can make a good one.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I mean, it's almost like so let me ask you
just before we get into it, because we get this,
there's a lot of psychology to this.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
What is the obituary cocktail?

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Of course, a fabulous question. It's gin, vermouth and absinthe.
It's basically a jin martini of absinthe. And depending on
the recipe, you can go heavy on the vermouth and
the absinthe, or do any sort of variety that you like. Again,
cocktails is often a personal taste, but I will say,

(04:06):
for me, light on the absinth. It adds a nice
flavor to it, but if it overwhelms it, it's not great.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
After a couple do you start saying green monkeys?

Speaker 5 (04:14):
So that was green fairies, green fairies. But you know,
if you want to see green monkeys, you're going to
see green monkeys. I can't stop it.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Now, tell me you talked about the oldest salon. What
is the oldest saloon in this city? And why do
we use the word cocktail. Let's go about the origin
of that.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
That's a very good question because the feasts blacksmith Shop
says Blacksmith Shop says it's the oldest bar in New Orleans.
But it's not.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
I mean, it's lying.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
It's like a pirate.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
It's questionable whether or not they ever live there. And
there is evidence, yeah, I know, I knows this. There's
evidence that it was actually an ice cream shop as
late as the eighteen nineties.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
So it may not have been a blacksmith shop. I
actually said that. I'm sorry. Yeah, but it's still a
very fun place to go. I mean, I've been there
a bunch of times. But I'm trying to think of
what probably the old maybe the old absent house, which
is originally back then they called them coffee houses, and
coffee houses used to serve liquor. So that's probably and

(05:19):
I honestly that's the one I'm thinking is the oldest
bar in New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's usually considered that, and it was, and it has
the most august history. That was part of the reason
why you know it was. It shows up the annals
of the Battle of New Orleans. It has it actually
was operated at one point by Owen Brennan, and that's
a famous story about how current owner we used to
cross the streets and say, you know, find out, ask

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how was dinner that night, because people go get a
drink And he then accused an irishman of not being
able to cook French food, at which point when Brendan said,
I'm going in business and go into competition to you,
and so that came out.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
But by the way, it's uh, probably one of the
was one of the targets of the British John the battle.
I know it's because they were going for booty and
beauty and what did you have that you had booty
at a very successful financial, successful institution and so hot Loogan.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Chicks say the Baptist minister. By the way, I got
to bring that on. Yes, you know the book. For
those just joining us, Sushock and local journalists. Social historian
is joining us about her new book Obituary Cocktail, and
it's a specific cocktail.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
We're going to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
With Absinthe and Gin and people are going to not
only have an opportunity to buy the book upon its permission,
but try out the cocktail. There's an event going on
where I give the shameless plug to my wife and
nice bookstore called the Garden District Bookshop. But this is
actually a fantastic event that's going on on October eak
on July eighteenth, I'm dating myself on July eighteenth.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Can you talk about what's happening that evening.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
Well, I'm very excited and by the way, thank you
and you all. Also the debut book launch and signing
back in twenty twenty one when I did the Cafe Brulett. Well,
this event's going to be a lot loads of fun.
It's going to be at obviously Ouren District Bookshop twenty.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Seven to twenty seven for tenning in the Historic Greeks
Shopping Center, seventy streets of same places of all street
parking six pm and the evening yeaes six.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
To seven ish. We're gonna make bittery cocktails. Actually just
sent Barkley, your wife a recipe that Ted Burrow, who
is an expert on absence, gave me about batching it,
so making it ahead of time. I'm not sure if
it works. I tried it once, but not as methodically
as he did. And the absence you have to be
very careful absence will take too much over But back

(07:33):
to the event, you'll have samples of obitary cocktails. I'll
be there signing books, and we have the wonderful Tiaga
guy performing. He's a Brazilian musician, so he won't be
he might be doing some Brazilian stuff, but he's mainly
kind of an Americana New Orleans roots person.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
So this is the eighteenth Ladies and Gentlemen, and it
is going to have music, it is going to have cocktails.
It is going to have obituary cocktail the book, and
it's going to have the enthusiast of the cocktail culture
of New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
And that's something to say. How is implying this?

Speaker 2 (08:01):
There is debate as to whether the word cocktail came
from New Orleans the famous idea.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
But while I have heard the New York.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Explanation that it was the end of a horse as
the cocktail of this, I stick by the New Orleans definition.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
You want to share where it comes from?

Speaker 5 (08:17):
Uh the I actually know the New York version better,
the one about the horse and the tail and sticking something,
you know, to perk up the tail when it was
for sale. And then there's the and you know, honestly,
I don't remember that version.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, for those that didn't say it, you want to,
I have one verse verse and that was around on
Royal Street. They had a drug store there where the
first according to us, where the first cocktail started. There's
good debate on this. Uh, it could have been New York,
could have been here. Anyway, the drug store got decided
he wanted to make alcohol a little more tasty, a

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little more fancy. So he started putting things and he
did it in a little like ceramic bow where they
would put eggs. And the word cocktail comes from something heavy, close,
with close, close, and so you ended up with cocktail
with the cock close.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
So the pharmacist in question is a man by the
name of Antoine pay Show. And one of the things
that happened in the nineteenth century was that, you know,
when you were served heavy amounts of laudanum opiates, you
would since in the Middle Ages, apothecaries would put the
laudanum in alcohol because louden taste very bitter. But although

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it ended up doing is creating bitter booze. So Paychot
wanted to create a simple syrup to make it less bitter,
and so he called them bitters. And he was a
French pharmacist. That means he was a chemiste and his
measuring cups for you know, for measuring out different chemicals
or whatever, were called octase egg cups. And so when

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he's serving them, as he would basically offer the bankers
who lived on Roll Street free servings in the evening,
this is New Orleans, free drinks. Everybody came running. So
octa cocktail cocktail. So the debate is when did the
first used to the cocktail come in? They both are
within five years of each other, so.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Think of it. They held eggs, right, They.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Were never used for eggs.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
They said they were called that because they were the
size of eggs.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
They were. They were just but you still have the
message of the bird the chicken and a cock would
be a male chicken, and the tail would represent something.
You know that a cockstail is very fiery, and you
were in this. I'm just I'm just guessing and thinking
about what our ancestors really thought when they were coming.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Up with folks.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
You're listening to The Founder Show with Hi mckenry and
Christopher Tidmore, a special guests see strack And is introducing
her new book, A Bituary Cocktail with us here on the.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
That's where you get.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
So she It will be an event at the Garden
District Bookshop on July eighteenth, and it will have music
and the obituary cocktail, which itself is an actual drink.
It involves abstince and gin and this incredibly forget formoth
and removeth and this incredible martini like combination. We're going
to talk about that and absinthe in its history here

(11:16):
in New Orleans. But you're about to read something for
us if I'm mistaken.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
No, I actually have the definition of the cocktail nor
New Orleans and thing and all that in the Kafir
Bruler books. So I'm embarrassed I've blanked on that. It
says what is a cocktail? A modern day definition courtesy
of Miriam Webster Dictionary is a usually ice drink of
wine or distilled liquor, mixed with flavoring ingredients some and
then that's the end of quote. Some cocktail historians hark

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back to an earlier definition that says a cocktail originally
referred to a specific lend of alcohol, sugar water, and bitters,
and was sometimes called a bittered sling.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
That is a perfect definition a bittered sling. We could
also define this radio show.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
So you know, stand the barbarians of northern Europe, the
Celts and the Germans and all that that they had
their own version of cocktail called mead. So maybe they
were the first ones they come out.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
You can go, well, we've had forty five wines in
the Roman Empire, so you could go wherever you want.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
But exactly, I mean, it's it's you could say. The
great thing about this LSU series is there's about so
far about eight of these New Orleans cocktails, and if
you go out to other cities in the US, they
maybe have one or nothing or two. When it was
in Charleston, and I love Charleston, don't get me wrong,
but I was with someone who's a native and they

(12:31):
were saying Planner's punch. No, Planner's punch is at native
to Charleston. But they did a, you know, really good
job of it. But if you go around the US,
if they don't have as many cocktails as we've had here,
like the Grasshopper, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
We have. In fact, they had a bar on two
Lane where all the med school students used to go
and I can't think of the name of Next. Next, Next,
I knew him. He's a needle guy, and of course
all the high school we'd love to go there. He
had like a hundred or more cocktails, so he could
do it. Banana's banshee. I remember. That's so well because
that's what all the girls want. They wanted the banana.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Ues, if memory serves, Nick would serve you as long
as your head could get up to the bar, so
that was also the attractive.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Next the rule was if your hand could reach the
top of the bar, you were old enough to buy
a beer.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
We have a slightly different culture that comment, and we'll
explore it in a second. Just came from a Baptist preacher.
You don't know the suit. For the first ten years
that we were on the air, every week we would
present a cocktail on the show. Lucy Faust would come
in with the cocktails and a different cocktail that was
being presented. So that was actually your bringing back what
was a long standing tradition.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
When you would bring the ingredients and do it right
there in the studio. And we used to do this
at w down there studio and we'd have a little
sip of it on the show.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
And we were very popular with everyone came running into
the studio at WRNL. That's how we conclude every show.
So bringing your obituary cocktail book is very much in
the tradition here of what we used to do on
this program. And of course we'd come on in a
Sunday morning, so it's we're starting the morning right. The point,
the point I'm getting at with the A bitry cocktail
book is when I'm fascinated by this drink, this gin

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and almost martini with abstinth is. Abstinth is a traditional
New Orleans drink that was illegal up until less about
twenty years ago two thousand and seven and so.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Almost twenty years.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
I remember I used to go to Europe in the early,
very early two thousand and two thousand and one through
two thousand and five, and I'd go to Vienna, I'd
go I'd go to Prague, I'd go to place, and
I'd always bring back about four or five bottles of absinthe.
And I remember having a dinner party once where a
guy who is now a federal judge at Oakdale is
actually an immigration judge. He was up for review of

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the Senate. He was one of my and we served
abstinth with the flaming in the end of the dinner
and he's like, I can't drink it. I'm like, you're
you're going to live a long time, Bill, You're well pickled.
I've never seen you turn down alcohol ever, And yeah,
look at him. He says, he says, it's a legal substance.
And I'm kind of testify before the sin and on Monday,

(15:05):
I have never had that I did not taken a
legal substance and that that's how big. And it's a
great story about the guy who got abstince legalized. He's
from New Orleans. Do you know this sort of.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
Yeah, Ted Brow, who's a huge help with this book,
he discovered absinthe one day and he's a he's a
you know, he tasted it and he's you know, I
got to figure this out, and he reversed engineered. He
found two old bottles and he reversed engineered these old
bottles of original absence from Europe and figured out the

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recipe for it, and then was creating his distillery that
he works through is in France and created it and
then hem and this other man on another and I'm
blanking his name right now. We're all kind of working
simultaneously to legalize absinth in the US, and so finally
in two thousand and seven and all came together it started,
and then you know, it took off.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
It was illegal, wasn't because they had mercury in it
and it was killing people, period.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
It was wormwood. It was worm but so they did
not have mercury in it. She's going there, it's not.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
It's not the wormwood. It's the ingredient in wormwood called
tough hone And oddly enough, Vermuth has wormwood in it
as well, so you're also getting through hone h in
Vermouth and Formuth is named after wormwood.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
I don't know the origin of the word warm wormwood.
I'm sorry, the origin of the word wormwood it is.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
If there's a Latin name, I can find it in
my book seem to know, please.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
It's in the Book of Revelation where a star falls
to the earth called wormwood and turns all the good
water it's bitter. So we're going to have a serious
demand for clean drinking water during during that last seven
apocalyptic period.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Now, this is interesting that I brings this up because
for those that don't know this, they were like five FM,
say you're talking about cocktails eight o'clock in the morning.
And for those let me let me put you at ease,
ladies and gentlemen, And as HIGHLY would like to say,
it is he Hi. You know why do Southern Baptist
not drink Christopher?

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Okay, because it's obviously to the Southern Baptist a great sin.
Now I'm an ordained Southern Baptist minister, but I go
strictly by the Bible. And that's the one great thing
about the Baptist churches. You're allowed to hold your own position.
Let's say, one Baptist preacher may have another position, then
another one, and that's okay. So I just goes strictly

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by the Bible regardless of what the Baptists do. And
I love the Baptist but I can't agree with everything
they do. So what does the Bible say about drinking?
You got to do that? You go? What does the
Word of God say? Well, one passage says wine makes
the heart merry, that's a good thing. The scripture also
tells old people I qualify for that, although I haven't
started doing it. Art thou in pain, Art thou suffering,

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Art thou old, drink wine and remember your miseries. No
more so. It's a great It is a pain killer.
And then and then when when the guy got beat
you know this, the Uh, the fellow got beat up
on the on the road to Uh in Samaria. Uh,
the good Samaritan went to his aid, and he ministered
to him with wine and oil. The wine took the

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pain away. The god was really hurting, been beat up,
really badly. And the oil was the way they that
was like an ointment they would put on people to
heal them. And and then also what did Jesus do?
What was his first miracle? He was at a very
merry event, a wedding feast that lasted for seven days.
It puts our Marty guard a same seven days of
feasting and partying and having a great old time seven

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days straight. Okay, halfway through it, they ran out of wine,
which is a great, terrible, horrible thing for the host,
and so he turned the water into wind. I arrest
my case with this. It's called the liquor tithe in
the Old Testament, it says in the law. Now this
is the law if you are too far away to
get to the temple to celebrate let's say pass Over,

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and why and and and so what you are you
supposed to just quit? No, you're to take the tithe
money and you to go out and put buy enough
to put on a giant feast to invite all your
friends to and in. And it talks about the food,
and it says wine, and it says hard liquor, and
whatsoever that soul desires so lusteth after, So Christopher, the

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Bible has not the Bibles against drunkenness. I am too,
h a bad thing. I set you here for a drink,
getting drunk, just like you can speak without being a false.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Proper all right, I set you up for the joke,
and you and you.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
And now I conclude this. This is like I said
a Baptist. Why to Baptist? I mean, how do you
how do you tell the Baptist in a liquor store
from all the other people in it, from the Methodists?
From the Methodists? The Methodists say hello.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
To one another and top that I can't talk, that
I can't.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
I actually prefer his joke.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
And you know, you know why, you know, why why
do why white a Baptists not prefer prematteral Sacks.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
It might lead to dancing about dancing.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
That's about dancing. That's about dancing anyway, Baptist. I'm supposed
to dance either, and the Bible is filled with dancing.
I mean, I don't know enough enough.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Back to the book, it was I was, I was
sitting up for a joke and the Lord all right,
good Sue stock end.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
The book is Abituary Cocktail, And I want to ask
you the events going on, of course on July eighteenth
at the Garden District Bookshop about six pm, and you're
going to be presenting not only the book for signature,
but we're going to have this incredible obituary cocktail of
Abstinth and jin and Vermouth and as wonderful cocktail. But
I'm just curious when you, when you're coming together with

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this book and talking about this historic drink, give a
little bit of its history and what was the most
unexpected thing you learned.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
About for Mouth? I was always well. When I was
promoting hm Cafe Bruleau Brian Diaz who has the Nola
Drink show, I was talking to him and he brought
up for Mouth and I said for Mouth, and he was, oh, no, no, no,
for Vermuth is no, don't say that, but from Mouth,
and he's to me a Remouth evangelist. And so when
this book came around and I did write about the
Vermouth chapter, I interviewed him and I had him review

(21:07):
the Vermouth portion of the chapter and make sure I
would didn't make a mistakes and that vermouth is supposed
to be refrigerated. It is a fortified wine, and a
lot of people don't know that. And my parents were
guilty of sticking in the back of their liquor cabinet
and letting you sit there from party to party, and
so by the time it made it to the party,
it was bad. And like a wine, after you open it,

(21:30):
you need to put in the refrigerator. And then you know,
if you have one of those wine things that you
know keeps the pressure down, put that on and then
after three or four weeks you need to toss it
or use it, like I did with cooking. So that
was my biggest surprise I had. I had no idea
because I don't you know, I didn't drink Martini's until
I started doing this book, and I didn't understand that

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that one.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Well, it's the reason why some people are like Martini's
because it's just bad forver mood. It's bad formth Yeah,
and it's and I'll look, I didn't really get it
either because my parents did the same thing. And it
was when I went to Spain and people wanted to
serve me a glass of remouth and I was like,
oh god, well it's delicious. It was fantastic because it's
it's actually supposed to taste good. It's not supposed to

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be bad. And you know, and and I like dry,
dirty martinis where you know, you kind of show the
remove to the to the gin and then take it away,
but you know that that's what happened.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
That's what happens. Everyone wants those super dry martini because
they grew up having a like, you know, appearance with
the vermouth in the back of the of the liquor
cabinet or you know, going to a bar that didn't
refrigerate the remooth and it's in there for a month.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Martinez I've ever liked are like the strawberry or the
mint or whatever that have that are flavored.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I don't like just for such an evolved soul you're
such a philistine and you know.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
What that that is. A martini is like straight shooting
it in your veins. It is so strong, I'm true.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
You know, if you tried one with Hendrix's gin has
a very lots of florals and flavor to it. Try
Hendrixs Gin. I recommend it, and they're coming out with
some new brands. Yeah, so try it without strawberry that
kind of you know, if that's what you like.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
You like it.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
So for those that don't know, the Garden District book
Shop has its own bar bar epilogue and not only
are we featuring the Obituary Cocktail, which will be on
a pace for this event on July eighteenth, there actually
are several There will be several martinis that will be
prepared by the wonderful Michael Marinara who specializes in this
and for people who've never had a great martini, they

(23:24):
can actually try this. And this will be the focus
of it, the Obituary Cocktail. But from this end it
is it is actually an art form and you probably
never had a good one.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
And there's another thing I found out I was going
to do is a sidebar chapter about the martini and
I was thinking, how hard could that be? And then
the history of the martini is not easy. It's almost
like its own it's almost its own book.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
It's its own book. Yeah, we forget this. We think
of cocktails today as a way of diluting drinks to
last longer in the evening. That's what some people think.
That's not what a cocktail was for. A cocktail was
for the blending of sugars and alcohols for something that
is stronger than some of the parts. And that's what
this obituary cocktail is the living embodiment of.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
And you know, I've been asked the question of you know,
was that do you find in your book and the research?
Was there this aha moment that you found doing your
research when the obituary cocktail was born? I said, no,
that's no. It's like the Kafe briller. There's no like
aha moment, whereas like the grasshopper, people can say, yes,
it was invented at two jacks.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Wow. Interesting, I didn't know that. When I was a
little kid, that was one of the only things I
ever liked. I hated the taste of alcohol, but I
like grasshopers. You know, I was allowed to thimbleful, the
now obituary, the obituary cocktail. Does that have anything to
do with our second lines and funerals?

Speaker 5 (24:47):
Well, I do a chapter about the death traditions in
New Orleans and I talk about jazz funerals, the above
Crown tombs and the history of both. I could start
with the jazz funerals its roots back in Africa Sicily,
they all came together into New Orleans and coalesced in

(25:07):
the Black community and.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
The Irish Wake let's not forget that, and also loaded
with Irish for the.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
Irish exactly, and then you know, eventually evolved into you know,
there's the first line, which is the morning and then
the second line, which is where people you know cut
up and as again a call us in the black community,
and you have the Social aid and pleasure clubs, the
Benevolent Society.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
And people want to remember the Social Asian pleasure clubs.
And what we think of is a lot of the
Mardi Gras as second lines. They started off as funerary societies.
This was you had life insurance essentially, and you were
celebrating your funeral together as part of a group.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
It's a type of funeral insurance. Yeah, But the reason
they used the word line the first line is when
you walked to the grave with the mourners and people
are grieving and weeping and everything, and you bury the person,
and now that they're buried, you believe they've gone heaven,
and so now you're rejoicing on the way back to
the next party.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
Well, there's there's there's two other schools of thought. But
we can't we spend all afternoon in argum.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
I'm not I'm not going to go against the Baptist
preachers always.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Two other ways have gone.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Sushark's joining us, Joining us. Her new book, Obituary Cocktail
is coming out. It actually hits the the the the
different bookstores in the sixteenth, but the first event is
going to be on the eighteenth Garden District book Shop
twenty seven to twenty seven for Tanna. You can find
out more information by going online at Gardendistrict Bookshop dot
com and uh see, I know people can make reservations

(26:38):
for it. You'll have the cock The Obituary Cocktail will
be served at the bar Applogue. It is, as far
as I know, the only bookstore that can claim is
the first bookstore in town to have a bar, and
and people come there, and of course the rink is
open every evening till eight o'clock at night.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
For that, can I add one more things real quickly?
So I one of my chapters is about I got
other deathitely named cocktails, and so I got different cocktails
from different bars. And the bar epilogue contributed the Vampire's Kiss.
So are you going to have that night? Or like, no,
we will have the Vampire's kiss.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
So tell them the story of the Vampire's Kiss?

Speaker 5 (27:11):
All right? So I called I called Barkley up and said,
I need a cocktail, and her and Zach Hunt. Who
are you know? Who is manager there? I mean, what
is his exach tile?

Speaker 2 (27:22):
And Zach is the weekend the weekend bar manager.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
He's a weekend bar manager. And so they sat there
and pulled out everything in there in their bar in
the bar and started creeping creative. Now they also want
to do an homage to Aunt Rice because the Garden
District shop was known as her book shop when she
was alive and living in New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
And she actually had a for the opening of the
book The Memock the Devil. She actually had a jazz
funeral to the bookstore where she had a reverse funeral,
because from the grave to the bookstore she was very
much alive for the signing, and so it's very appropriate
for this.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
We lived right around the corner. I had another big
house right down the street.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
So they put it all together and they tried some
stuff out and then remember them calling me, going, we've
got it, We've got it. So it consists of two
ounces makers Mark, one ounce fruitful fig liquur, one ounce
tart cherry juice, and a lemon twist which sounds you know,
I actually taste its Veray to life.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
It's the vampires Kiss was developed with a liqueur that
Barkley had been loved but was trying to figure out
a way to execute. And apparently this drink, thanks to
your promotion of it in the book, has gone national
and we really appreciate that it's called the Vampire Kiss.
It will be available on the eighteenth, that's a Thursday,
at the Garden District Bookstore July eighteenth for this opening

(28:33):
of this book Obituary Cocktail.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
The author she.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Strucking, has been joining us here on the program. Final thoughts, Sue,
if you would on the book and what we want
people to remember it with.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
The one last thought. Also, Christopher, it's going to be
from Friday afternoon.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
That's Thursday, Okay, Friday Friday.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
It's Friday Friday from six to seven ish SEVENI ish,
folks here in als could mean midnight, because when you
go to a party, know it won't. But I'm just kidding.
Don't tell me it's going to be seventy seven.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Actually, well here's here's the thing it's going to be.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
It's gonna start at six ended seven and guess what
the place closes at eight, so that that's yeah, it
will it will follow the time. But so we do
encourage people come on it. Also encourage make reservations for it,
because there is a certain a Mountains.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Books that are take the party across the street to
the cemetery where they filmed interview with a vampire with
our vampire drinks.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
Right, well, we'd have to break it.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
You have to break in, and that's not allowed a
bit the book.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Why not, so they said all the more exciting, especially
with Hunter Thompson fans here.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
So ultimately su strack in that we were just guys.
The final thought you wanted to leave us with about
your new book, Obituary Cocktail available at the Garden District
Book Shop twenty seven twenty seven for tena and premiering
and a special event on the eighteenth of July.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
What I found out doing the research on this book
is that it has strong ties to created a Kafila
Feats When it was located in Lafitte's Blackmouth shop, it
had gotten and lost its leave and moved down the street.
It is now known as Cafe Lafitte's Exile. But at
that time, when it was in the early forties, it
was a as much as you can say, a gay

(30:13):
friendly bar, but in a time which you couldn't have
a bar that was gay friendly. It was so Tennessee
Williams show up you had. It was very cafe society.
If you read there was all these nightlife reporters which
were a blast to read their newspaper articles about things
going on at nightlife in New Orleans. But Kathie Lafeet
was very much central to it, and the owners Tom Klappinger,

(30:36):
Harold Barthel and Mary cons were just, you know, just
very part of creating this friendly atmosphere for everyone to
go to when you couldn't go to if you were gay,
you couldn't go to bars. And I'll end this with
Ella Brennan as we worked in the French Quarter and
her and her brother would walk down there after work
and her famous quote is I didn't go to finishing school.

(30:58):
I went to Cafe Lafitte.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Is a perfect ending. Sea strock n final word.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
High we we thought, Christopher, and that is of all places.
The rink, which originally was a skating rink, and my
brother's one who did the you know renovation of it.
He worked there in high school and before you know
grammar schoolfel No. It worked at the rink because it
was owned by the Steiner brothers who anointed that place

(31:26):
with copious amounts of cocktails every day. I remember it
very well.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
It was also an auto place, and that note se
strock Can stored.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
They stored, They stored cars, and they had a gas
station and then and they and they fixed cars to mechanical.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
The historic Rink twenty seven to twenty seven Pritannia is
where the event at the Garden District book Shop for
four the obituary Cocktail the new book by Sea strack
Can will happen on the eighteenth at six pm. Make
your reservations at Gardendstrict Bookshop dot com.

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Folks.

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In the Founder Show.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
And welcome back to The Founder Show with Hi, Micknry
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the Foundershow dot com or in the iHeartMedia app. And Hi,
you know, one thing kind of surprised me as we

(34:17):
went to tape the show, and it was a pleasant,
pleasant surprise, and it's something you predicted. So I want
to give you appropriate credit to come in. So I've
been thinking about what you said all week and I
actually wrote a column and if you you can actually
read it if you go to the Foundershow dot com
our website, it'll be on the iHeartMedia app as well
by the time we coming in. But what I kept

(34:38):
thinking about, Hi, was this lady Mendonna Karashian, the sixty
four year old Iranian lady from Lakeview, who you know
has lived in Lakeview for She's been in the United
States since since nineteen seventy eight, forty five years and
she's just working in her garden, you know, working at
Figs in the garden. Her husband and daughter, both American,
borner inside, and Ice comes and picks her up. She

(35:00):
you know, she has never broken a law on all this,
and it took Steve Scalice, to his credit, to get
her released. They were gonna, they were gonna. She was
locked up in detention. This grand essentially grandmother type, sixty
four years old lady who's never I mean, her neighbor's
the sweetest lady.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
And what was interesting about.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
It, Christopher, the Persians are very good people. Makes there
are very noble people, which you see coming from the
Itola is not a good example of the real person.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
Well.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
And also she left during the revolution. She didn't agree
with any of it. But what I wanted to point
out is last week you said something that was interesting,
and I probably didn't give it enough credit because I
agreed with you. I said, the president President Trump has
said we want to get rid of the criminals, but
keep the good people here. That hasn't been what his
if you remember, I said, that hasn't been what his
administration has been doing. And she's a good example of this.

(35:50):
You've had three people in the administration call Land Security
Secretary christinome borders are Tom Horman and Deputy Chief of
Staff Stephen Miller, who've basically said there should be no
should be no amnesty. There should if you're here illegally,
I don't care if you've been here thirty years. If
you have a job, gotta go. There's others in the
administration and in Congress who are like, wait, including Scalise,

(36:11):
who have come out and said that's insane.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yeahl including you or not.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
He said, it says, what do you do with the
people who are This is Steve Scalie speaking on Thursday.
What do you do with the people who are illegally
but aren't filing criminals? By the way, do you know
the difference? Well, some unelected bureaucrat in Washington working for
a federal agency who's processing thousands of cases a day
really doesn't have enough information to know.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
And that was his point. We have to change.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
He goes on to say, we have to change the
law in Congress. That means both parties have to come
together to do it and not yell and screaming, degging
all of the issue. This was a brave thing for
him to say. So already people are calling him a
betrayer of Mega. Ironically, he's saying the same thing Trump's saying.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
I admit, for folks, I've been the biggest critic of
Donald Trump, but he's come out and said essentially the
same thing.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
You gotta Chris, this is remind may of a Baptist
Church government meeting where you get factions and each one's
calling the other one heretics and all that. It's it's
too much. And I say that happens that, folks. That's
a nature of humanity what we're saying right now, where
you have these ridiculous debates within movements that are unnecessary.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Well, and I when I'm pointed out, I read the
column about this because I've said, you know, this is
the issue everybody's saying. I heard some ridiculous things at
a dinner party the other night where they're saying the
Epstein list is going to rip the Republicans apart or
its Ukraine arms of the bombing ran I said, no,
it's none of this. But where there is an argument
where there is real political factionalism, and it's really, you're right.

(37:39):
The comparison to religion, it's almost become a religion, like
a heresy to say you can't say it, and you
know you're going against the religion because you forget like that.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
It's it's always heritical.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
And something about the fanatical nature and human personality that
makes them crazy like that. That's all around the world,
cultures people all around the world.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
And so what I wrote about was the fact that
Trump had proposed an idea that doesn't work for this,
but it was it's the beginning of an idea. So
Trump came out with his Gold Card. If you've heard
about this, it was five million dollars to buy us
permanent residency. He does the president doesn't have the power.
It's been struck. It's being strickd down the courts. The
president doesn't have the power to sell us senter. That
actually requires an Act of Congress. But by coming out

(38:19):
and saying it, he made a statement. He said, look,
if somebody pays something and they're willing to pay the elements,
should they be able to get permanent residency, regardless of
where they're from, regardless of how they got here. And
it was an important kind of breaking through the point
and immediately he's you know, because you've got a lot

(38:40):
of agribusiness, the Archer Daniels Midlands, the Tyson Foods, the Smithfields.
You are saying, if you get rid of illegal migrants,
you're going to shut down American agriculture, amongst other things,
many industries.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
I mean, this is a major series.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
For one of the world. Big problems in this whole
thing is because they've let twenty or more million people
in and now they're in wells allowed get remove it. Well,
there's still a different debates on Homa that maybe Biden
led eleven million, but there are already another ten million
before illegals that had gotten in under the prior administrations.
So the real problem here is they're so here now

(39:16):
that if you were remove if you like, took ten
thousand a day or what, it would take twenty thirty
years to remove them. All that's insane. Let me get
it's not going to happen. It's absurd, it's it's an
it's an impossibility. So this is what I see. You
got the good ones and you got the bad ones,
all right, So let's separate the bad ones from the
good ones. Kick the bad ones out keep the good
ones and give them a path to a citizenship by

(39:39):
you know, they have to learn English, they have to
pay some fine or they have to they can vote
for the next five or ten years certain penalties for
what they did, and and and to let So there
is is the law. It works that way. There's you
have to have you have to have judgment with law.
If you don't have judgment, then that law means nothing.
So there has to be some repercussions for what they've done.

(39:59):
But if there's good, clean, honest citizens doing the right stuff,
they're actually a credit to this country.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Well and hi, let me get they're good for us.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
In two thousand and six, if you remember, there was
a bill to do exactly that and make a.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Pilar taxes and pay their hospital bills. All that can
I start coming off everything for you?

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Right, So in two thousand and six there was a
bill to do this, the push by the Bush administration.
He worked with Democrats in Congress and was going to
pay five thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
That was the fine.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
And it was attacked then and it's intact now by
a group called that's very Trump related, called the Federation
for American Immigration Reform or FAIR, which is claiming that
immigrants cost Illegal immigrants cost the nation one hundred and
fifty billion dollars a year.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
They are costing us, so fortunately, why we need to
identify them and get them into some kind of program holds.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Here's the thing. Let me ask you this.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
There's debate on that because they say one hundred and
fifty billion dollars, which works out to about eighty seven
eighty a person per year, seven hundred and eighty dollars
per year. The Cato Institute says, no, that actually is
not true because they paid. The ones that are here
illegal pay taxes themselves that they will never get.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Well, they pay sales taxes, but no, no, don't pay now.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Actually, interestingly, here's the thing. If you're in legally, there's
a point in a federal tax return that if you're
an legal immigrant you can file taxes, and they do.
But the point I'm getting at this, and this is
why I was worried about time, was that you know,
Catain Institute says that it's a net positive two hundred.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
Thousand over a lifetime.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
What I'm seeing high is that there are republic there.
Republicans fall into three camps. Camp Number one is the
Steven Miller camp. I don't care what it costs. I
don't care that if you got rid of four hundred
thousand dollars a year, it would reduce the national growth
rate by one percent, which is what it's estimated to do.
I don't care. They're here illegal, get rid of them, period.
There's a second group that basically says, and it's very

(41:41):
very small, and it agrees with Democrats. It's like four people,
and it says, let's charge them five basically what you
just said, Let's charge them a five thousand dollars fine
and give them pass the citizenship.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
If they break the law, that's one thing.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
But if they're just going to work here and they're
going to learn English, who cares let them stay. That's
a very very small group of people in the Republican Party.
Most Republicans fall in the middle, and the middle of
that is we think they should pay a fine, but
we don't know how much the fine should be.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
I don't know about a fine. I just think they
need to learn the basics well, and they're going to
be paying taxes, so they're gonna well that's gonna come.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
Yeah, that's what you and I are saying, I.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Can't vote for five to ten years because they were
brought in by the Democrat Party to give the Democrats
a complete control of this country. That's why they're here.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Here's what I'm getting at is, first of all, that
didn't work.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
They need to make the Democrats pay the fine.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Great, that sounds that the evil geniuses behind all Yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Evil genius is my point, certainly are My point about
all of this is there's a real problem because what
you just suggested, which is perfectly logical and empathetic, is
a good idea. We'll never make it through Congress. It
will never make it through the House, much less the Senate.
And one of the things I've been recognizing that Democrats
have to come around this is criticism on Democrats is

(42:55):
you're not going to get a five thousand dollars fine
that's going to work.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
If you use the.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Numbers that were factored by fair this pro Trump organization,
it would be two hundred and sixty three thousand dollars
over a lifetime that they immigrants cost. If you right now,
one of the changes in the Big Beautiful Bill was
that's two hundred thousand dollars is the maximum you can
borrow to go to med school, law school, whatever graduate program.
I'm like, what if there was this proposal? And I said,

(43:21):
I actually think this is too high, but I'm going
to say it. What if it were like a student
loan that was two hundred thousand dollars you paid off,
and once you paid off, you can become a citizen.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
That's a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
That certainly is more than you're taken out, and you're
still paying taxes, you're still paying everything else. And I
hope it wouldn't be that high, but I brought it
out and I said, to Democrats, if they're willing, if
the Republicans were willing to put a proposal like that together,
would you vote for it to legalize and normalize the
eleven million people that frankly, have never committed a crime,
whose only crime was that they brought into the country

(43:54):
that's their crime. And I said, is that a fair enough?
That's a bigger fine than people get for felonies.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
And I've found this.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
When I proposed this idea, and you can read the
entire column at on our website at the foundershow dot com,
I got a reaction that was two things. I got
mail that said absolutely not from Republicans, right, it's all
legal immigrants.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
I don't care what it would be.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
And from Democrats it's two hundred thousand dollars too much.
And I said, so what's the number? So I started
asking everybody what's the number?

Speaker 4 (44:23):
What's the number? Is it ten, twenty thirty? I'm fine
with whatever number it is. I greview.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
I think it's I think five thousand dollars is enough,
because if you're going to pay taxes and not commit
a crime and you will learn English, you're fine. You
should live here forever. But I kept saying it, and
it was saying, I'm hoping that Steve Scalie when he
came out and said what was an eminently logical statement
that he's being criticized and condemned for right now, and
I give him credit. It's a brave man. He came

(44:50):
out and said it's not popular GOP. He came and said,
we cannot let these people go. I think I'm hoping
to find out what that number is, what that mean
average is. I've proposed any from five to two hundred
thousand dollars. Maybe it's something in the middle. No one's happy.
But frankly, when Donald Trump tells you we cannot expel
eleven million people, it's not going to happen.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
We don't have the capacity, to the logistics to do it.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
That's the problem. So that's what's so silly, folks.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
What's the red number. We'll talk about who's qualifying.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
For office and the cartels and all the bad guys
we'll call it.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
We'll talk about who's qualifying for office for New Orleans
and next week's show and how that's going to play.
But we want to get this out there, so.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
There has to be a way for them to legally
be citizen.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Tell that bit away. Tell that to your congressman right now.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
They don't say it.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
I'm saying it right now on the show.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
We'll be back after this.

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we just take a brief moment to remind you of
the biblical foundations of our country, our Judeo Christian jurisprudence,
the very reason for this show being called the Founder's Show,
the foundations of our country. And today I'd like to

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talk about Benjamin Franklin, you know, Old Franklin. I think
that man liked would have liked to cocktail. I don't
know that they really. They may have had some strange
ones back then, but nobody really knows about him anyway.
He liked to have a good time. He was a
very merry man, if you will. But let's look a
little deeper into this man what he did for America
and the biblical contributions he gave us. You know, he's

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the one that called Congress to prayer when nobody was praying.
Had a huge impact on Congress, and from that point on,
they prayed every day, sometimes anywhere from a couple hours
to all day long. And when he called him that morning,
they were all in a state of chaos and confusion
and bickering and everything else. They spent three hours on
their knees praying. Franklin called for that because he saw

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how important it was and the impact it would have
for saving our country. Benjamin Franklin said this, And when
you know, he founded the public schools of Philadelphia, and
he founded at that time it's called the University of
Ben Franklin University, which became the University of Pennsylvania. And

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this is what he said. He said, the excellence of
the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern, is
vital for education. And he dedicated it his school to
a verse free of religion and learning built on Christ
the cornerstone. Folks, I think we can clearly see that

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Ben Franklin really knew the need for God in government.
There's many more things I could tell you about him,
but time does not allow his strong faith and his
dependence upon God for government. Well, folks, you know, Ben
Franklin was quite a guy, and I think he's in glory.
If you read his tombstone, you'll see he was trusting
in Christ only for his eternal life. But what about you.

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You could be the greatest biblical patriot that ever lived,
But if you died and went to Hell, what good
would it do you? Nothing? So I want to show
you how you can know for sure like Ben Franklin
knew for sure. He was going to heaven. I want
you to see how you can do that too, as
we now go into our chaplain by BIB gospel moment,
where again I just took a brief moment to show
you how you can know you're going to heaven when

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you die. The scripture says, for God's soul, love the world.
That means you, it means everybody. For God's soul, love
the world that he gave you. See, because God's a lover,
he's a giver. He gave his only begotten son. Of course,
that's the Lord Jesus Christ. He's all the way God,
all the way Man, perfect God and perfect man. He
gave his only begotten son. That whosoever that's back to
you again, and that's back to anybody and everybody that

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whosoever believeth in him, Oh, believe it in him? Well
what does that mean? Just believe in He's there or something.
I don't know what it means. And you need to
look a little deeper. So here we're going to go.
The scripture says, the Gospel is the power of God
unto salvation to whosoever believing that. The scripture says, for
I declare to you the gospel that Jesus died for
all of our sins according to the scripture, that he

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was buried, and that he rose from the dead according
to the scripture. Now, folks, that's the gospel. He died
for all of our sins. That means from the day
you're born, in the day you die, your tiniest to
your greatest sins were paid for by the Lord Jesus Christ.
When he died on the cross, your greatest to your
tiniest sins were all washed away with the blood of
the Lord Jesus Christ. That's what it says when who's

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ever believed in him. That's what you have to believe.
But it's kind of a twofold belief. Your first belief
is to believe that you can't do it. That's called repentance.
When you come to that point in your life where
you know for certain your hopeless and help us without
God destined to a burning hell and there's absolutely nothing
you have to offer God. You're just a total loser
before your creator, because you are. When you come to

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that place of humility in your life before God Almighty,
you've just repented. That means you're not going to be
trusting yourself for anything. It's not going to be your religion,
your money, your good looks, your charm, or whatever you
think you have going for you that's going to make
God some kind of way let you in a heaven.
It won't work, folks, it's a no go. So all
you got to do with the faith of a little

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child is believe that you can't save yourself. So you're
free to put faith alone in Christ alone, believing that
He did die for all of your sins, was buried
in rosem to dead. If you've never done that before,
do it now. Don't wait till it's too late. Trust
Jesus right now with all your heart, and God guarantees
you everlasting life, a place in forever. That's exciting, folks. Well, folks,

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every show, every other show, we talk about the end
times and what might be coming down upon us, the apocalypse,
if you will, the four horse money, the apocalypse. I
think they're already charging around the earth with all the problems, famines, pestilences,
wars and rumors of wars, and you know we've had
all that before, but we're having it a much greater
intensity than ever before. Look at what's just happening with

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the recent floods we've had in this country. There's a
lot going on right now that is pointing us to
the end. Look at what Putin's doing in Russia. He's
building a military base there that is going to be
maybe second to none. I mean, this thing is huge.
He's building the war making machinery of war meaning factories.

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He's producing missiles faster than you can count right now,
and he's planning to do this far into the future.
This is all bringing out one of the biblical prophecies
about the end times when Russia arch's south into Israel
to take Israel, uh that is, and he's gonna be
there'll be allied with Iran and the other nations Islamic

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nations around there. That's all in the formation period. Right now, folks,
we're so close to Jesus coming back. Are you ready? Well,
you need safety at a time like this. And the
greatest bunker you could ever get, if you're looking for
a bunker, is named the Lord Jesus Christ. Get into
him right now, keep him as your bunker, and you're
gonna make it just fine. Folks. Well, it's not time

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for us to close as we're close with Raman Saint
Martin singing a Creole goodbye and God bless you all
out there. Does this have to be the end of
the land?

Speaker 4 (53:44):
Do I love you?

Speaker 1 (53:45):
In the Pamal Land, I can see across the million
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