Laughter through Tears: 20th Anniversary of Katrina Artistically Remembered

Hy and Christopher look back to the seminal moment of 21st Century New Orleans history. We remember Armand St. Martin’s subsequent yearly efforts to “artistically remember” the storm, often with humor. We play his song “Contraflow”, which lampooned many of the bureaucratic screw ups of the time. In particular, in the ballad, Armand asks the question which every New Orleanian asks about this time of year, “Where’s Nash when we need him?"
Continuing this theme of laughter through tears, we welcome Chris Champagne and Philip Melancon on to the show, who are performing their own comedy retrospective “ Katrina does New Orleans” on August 28, 29, & 30 at 8 pm at the Monkey Hill Bar on 6100 Magazine—with a matinee on the Sunday Aug 31st at 2 PM. We hear a few of Chris’s jokes and listen to Phillip’s famous ‘lament by accordion’ of the Sewerage & Water Board. Tickets available by calling 504-202-0986 or emailing [e-mail].

122,000 Lost After Katrina
By Christopher Tidmore

August 28, 2005, just two weeks from The Louisiana Weekly’s 80th birthday, a looming hurricane just seemed like another false alarm.  Dutifully, hundreds of thousands of New Orleanians—who possessed the economic means—packed their children, loved ones, and/or the pets into cars for the twelve hour crawling contra-flowing commute to Baton Rouge.
Thousands more stayed put at home. Some were broke from two previous evacuations over previous two years, where those who remain behind only experienced clear skies and a day off from work. Others saw a Category 1 hurricane, which had turned towards the Gulf Coast.  ‘No threat’, they thought.
The desperate images over next week emblazoned themselves upon the memories of the nation. Katrina’s botched aftermath became one of those singular turning points in American history.  Our people displaced. The press would call us refugees, until we demanded the dignity of being Americans… and therefore “evacuees”.

We became a culture scattered to the winds. The comedianne Becky Allen later quipped, “Next time we all have to agree to evacuate to the same place.”
Many never returned.  It should not have been surprising, but this reporter did have an inkling after an odd experience in Des Moines, Iowa three weeks after the storm.  Staying with friends, I learned of a small street festival a few blocks from their house. As I walked up, I heard a band playing, “ I went on down to the Audubon Zoo, and they all ask for you…”
Iowa’s only zydeco band performed in a public tribute to the people of New Orleans. That was interesting, considering Iowa had expected 1500 evacuees and got about 150. (Most people had gone eastwood towards Atlanta or westward towards Dallas, not northward.)
Nevertheless, for an exile, it warmed my heart.  Perhaps not as much as the next sign which read, “Real Louisiana Gumbo”.  Cocky, I went over to the lady at the front, and asked, “How long have you been cooking the roux on that gumbo?”
Without missing a beat, she replied proudly, “24 Hours!”
Then she added, “Our chef is from New Orleans.”
Immediately, I figured he was one of the evacuees, and so walked up to meet the giant hulking man stirring a massive cauldron of gumbo, which was probably 3‘ x 3‘ in diameter. I looked him in the eyes and said, as only a New Orleanian could, “ I hear you’re from New Orleans; where’d you go to school?”
He smiled, “McDonough 35!”
We both laughed.  I said, “You came here because of the storm?”
“Yeah, the last one, Betsy,” he said.“I was never going back after that.”
He had built a life elsewhere when the floodwaters overcame the Ninth Ward in September 1965 and never truly returned. The major difference is that most of his peers were able to come home rather quickly. How 2005 differed was emphasized on a radio program which hosted Oliver Thomas and myself a couple of months later.
The topic was toxic mold, and the dangers of returning. I spoke about the health dangers and precautions which must be made as a result —like the good reporter that I sought to be. (I also came on the air to make the point that, unlike some other media sources, The Louisiana Weekly had only missed one week of publication after Katrina, thanks to the valiant efforts of our Publisher Renette Dejois-Hall.)
My exegesis on the need to carefully remediate mold from the receding floodwaters before reoccupying homes drew an uncharacteristically fiery response from the normally genial Councilman Thomas. “That’s ridiculous.  After Hurricane Betsy, we just took a little bleach and some water and wiped down the walls.”
Oliver Thomas and I sparred over the issues, like the radio talkshow hosts that we essentially were (even though we were both without radio stations at the time). The Councilman’s fundamental point, that there could be no more delays in letting people get back to rebuilding their hom

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Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hurricane Katrina artistically revisited on the twentieth anniversary of the
storm which changed all of our lives. We're going to
look at it with a little bit of humor in
the midst of all the tears. Laughter through the tears, folks,
is how you deal with every tragedy.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
And God bless y'all out there. You are now listening
to the founders. So the voice of the founding fathers,
You're Founding Fathers coming to you deep within the bowels
of those mystic and cryptic alligator swamps of the Big
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of a Then you have been Gary Baba of the
Republic Chaplain Hi mc henry.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
With Christopher Tidmore. You're having a reporter, resident, radical, moderate
and associate editor of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at Louisiana
Weekly dot net. And folks, we're going to put aside
the New Orleans Mayor's race and all of the different
races for next week, where we're going to be having
a debate between the mayoral candidates as well as the
sheriff's candidates the following week. But right now we want

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to actually talk about this anniversary. Everyone is talking about
how terrible it was or how we recovered, but we
saw something very interesting, Hi and I in the wake
of the storm, and it all started with our friend
armand Saint Martin, our friend who is no longer available
to come on the air with us or really to
be in public, and Armand started something called the Artistic

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Hurricane Katrina artistically revisited, and artists would come in sometimes
they've said, but often they used humor to look at
some of the tragedies that came through and how they
were to deal with them. And this is something I
found that was Armand's greatest contribution for all this song.
For those that don't know Armand Saint Martin comes in

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and we're going to do it on today's show with
the other song great song masters. Of course, this is
Chris Champagne and film A Lasso, who've got a show
to celebrate to, you know, or to commemorate. I guess
it's a better way. Hurricane Katrina in the twenty eighth,
twenty ninth, and thirty first, and they're joining us here
in studio at the historic Opera guild House. But set

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this up for us high. We want to give Armand
a little bit of credit. But Armand had actually put
together this for several years. It wasn't just once this
artistic this Katrina artists.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
I was always one of his speakers, and you know,
I would tell my Katrina story. Everybody was Many people
were there from different backgrounds for things. I was there
representing an inner city ministry and but there were a
lot of artists there. There were people in other ministries.
There were policemen there. There were all kinds of people
who told their stories and this would go on for

(03:13):
like four hours. We'd have it on the anniversary. We
had a downtown at the theater and.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
The protect was now the Pretending Theater right right.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
That was the Canal.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
It used to be with Centemon on Canal Street or
something like that. Now it's it's owned by the Britannion. Yeah,
and one one show, I mean in one Canal place,
and uh, it was an amazing experience. I mean, it's
absolutely stunning to see all these different people in all
their different stories. And there was so much brought there,
so much talent, so much information too. I mean you

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had a serious investigative reporters who had done their own documentaries.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
One of the things I really loved about Armand's saying
is how music was played not just to commemorate people,
but sometimes to have a little laughter through tears. That
was one of the best things that Armine gas. And
that's one of the things that Chris Champagne and film
a Laws are going to give us later in the
show Live Our Guest Today. But I wanted to give
Armand his credit because he did this. It wasn't just

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one year he did this artistically.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
It went on to this is what happened to Armand.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Folks, He's getting up in his ears like we all,
like I am, in all of us, and like many
I know are no longer with us, and like many
I know who are now in retirement homes and wheelchairs
and whatever. And that's where Armand is right now. He's
just retired for good unless a miracle happens, and he
won't be performing anymore as far as we know. He's

(04:35):
just you know, spending his last few years, okay, in retirement.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
But he would would he But he put on the
artistically revisited for a good fifteen years, fifteen years, and
he came up with some satirical songs. Now, so one,
of course, the one thing pretty much everybody hated after
the I mean, there's that he found things to love.
But the one thing that unified black, white, rich poor
was contraflow is how badly the evacuation out of the city.

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Because if you try to get a million and a
half people out of a four lane road, you're going
to have I don't care how good you are, it's
going to be hallacious.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
And so it was when people broke down and then.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Twelve hours to baton rouge.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah, and no gasoline. I mean, nobody come fix our cars.
It was a mess.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
It was a mess. But so Armand looked at this,
and he looked at the fact and to his credit,
Aaron Brusard, who was really heavily criticizing this. One of
the things he had done the year before was instituted
contraflow when the storm wasn't coming here because he kept
worrying about the big storm hitting well, he immediately called
for countraflow, and some people were critical of him, but
Armand wrote a song about contraflow.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
It's hysteric, by the way, for those who don't know
what contraflow is, because we have people listening in all
the United States on it. It's when you redirect traffic
where everybody's using full lanes going only in one direction.
So in words, if you have two lanes going one
way and two lanes the other, now you've got four
ranges all going out of the same Remember New Ols,
we're literally an island in the middle of swamp in March.

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There are only a few points of ingress and egress.
So when you get on that road, that's your way out.
You don't get to cut off on the side and
take other routes, alternate routes. You've got a few main
routes and that's it. So if something breaks down, you're
truck that's it.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
You can't like, oh they're broken out, I'll turn it
right here and cut over to the other. You can't
do it in a swamp.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I mean, I got lucky in the evacuation. I waited
till later because I wasn't gonna leave. I had a
second floor apartment right on the river and the whole works,
and finally decided to leave. They they'd so called shut
down the huep Long Bridge, but they hadn't got the
police there to shut it down yet. So I got
across and managed to take La one across.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
But are a lot of people wouldn't have gone that way. Yeah,
because that's taking you south and you'll hear that Armand's song.
But just temporarily, just temperate people were afraid. If I
go in that direction, you can right into the hurricane.
But it cuts to the west, so it so you
can get it. It's a great way after if you
get on, it's a good way out.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
After twelve hours or more, and sometimes there were twenty hours.
The people just trying to get to Baton Rouge sitting
on the side of the road right Armand for I
think this was the second artistically revisited it wasn't the
first year, but it was the second year. He wrote
this song and it's called Contraflow. And we went before
we brought Chris and Phil Chris Champaign film along song
we wanted to share in tribute to Armand, but one

(07:16):
of the funniest songs that Hi and I have ever heard.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
And by the way, even though Armand was a great
jazz musician, I mean in folk music, he was fabulous,
one of the greatest, I believe in America. The poor
man was never really discovered. He should have been, because
he is one of the greatest of all of our
musicians out of New Orleans. But he never did rap.
But you know what, he turned Contraflow into a rap song.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
It's very well.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Done, all right, Armand Saint Martin's in tribute to the
artistically redivisited Contraflow.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
The call won Franklin. The next one good. But then
it is like that, look who's gonna get If you
want most dudes stood this town, you gotta call that
riga a Leroy Brown. And when the big ones come,
they do some scaring. Last time I got a guy
named Aaron. We got a plan call count Floor and

(08:17):
if one man's contract. Then the floor won't go. I
flow won't go. I won't I won't go when I
the load don't go this little contra floor. You can't
count on the levees, pray for the pumps and just
shut out and sit on your rumps, or grab all
your stuff and get in your car, and in the

(08:38):
next ten hours you won't get far. Get your far
yet get far. And one thing for sure, if you evacuate,
don't jump to early, don't wait to Larry Hattsburgh, Houston,
jacksonne Rode. Where in the world we're all gonna go?
How's the man keep up at the Meexico station when

(08:58):
he's gotta gas up to hold that the nation? Yeah? Well,
just to be sure that you get my meaning. In
this rap song, ethenins fleeing from all the hot air
to cover this story. The storm jumps up about the

(09:19):
cat and Cory, the weather channel, mill Ham and wreck.
Where in the world is nashed by heck? Now, I
want to be fair, but I just don't know how
to rhyme a world with every dundo. Every dundo he
don't know. Every flow won't go because the conf flow
and you sit on your rumps. You won't get far,
but it don't be too later. This could be the

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big one. The computer projections got always running in different directions.
My best advice to come out of my mouth whatever
you do, but don't go south. Don't go south. Don't
go don't go south. Don't go southol don't go South.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Contra Flow Ladies and Gentlemen by almans A, Martin, Hi
mckenry and Christopher tid Moore are going to be joined
by Chris Champagne and film a Law Saw. Their show
is coming up on the anniversary the twenty eighth, twenty ninth,
and thirty first of Hurricane Katrina. They are carrying on
this tradition of Katrina artistically revisited with a lot of humor,
and we're going to share it with us after these

(10:40):
important messages. Stay tuned. We're looking back on the twentieth
anniversary of Katrina. A few stories and all this, and
I gotta give you before we go to the break high,
one funny story. And if you've got a funny story,
please share it. You know, I keep looking because there's
so much sadness and you you were out there rescuing
people in boats.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
I mean for the first yeah, seven days, my little group,
we were the beginning of the Cajun Navy. We staged
at Saint Charles Napoleon, pushed up, got our boats into
the water. We were in sometimes twelve feet of water,
pulling people out of house and whatnot.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
But during that time.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
We literally pushed floating bodies out of the way to
get to the living while we dodged bullets. And you
had had wild West on steroids that is not an
exact rate.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
And you had an interesting passenger who actually helps you
a lot.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, who is that? Shawn Penn's Shawn Penn.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
He came with a camera crew, but he I had
one of the greatest movements of Seawan Penn. You told
Sean Penn, you know, you got to help us, and
he was serious about it. Tell the story about Sean.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Oh yeah, Well what happened was we told everybody, the
actor Sean par We told all the reporters and the
guys with the cameras, you can come out with us,
but we're rescuing people first. We're not out there to
get you a lot of good photo shots. So when
Penn came with his photographer. By the way, and his
good buddy Douglas Brinkley, who was a professor at Toulone

(11:56):
at the time.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
That's how he came.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
He got into the city with Douglas and stayed at
his house which was above water, just like my house was.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
And so when they were getting in the boat, I
mean we were there.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
We told him that if you want to, if you
want us to take you out, saving people's lives is first,
and Seawan Pinn was one hundred percent behind that. He
shut his photographer down. The photographer had rage fits, but
Sean Penn got the message. We actually it's a long story.
We went his boat, but he couldn't work it and
he said, can yeah help me. I don't know how
to run these boats. So we jumped in the boat.

(12:27):
But we told him that and Sean Pinn literally dived
in the war and that that water was off the charts.
Lady pollution set records for chemical and biological pollution. That
one of the cadet, one of the rescue dogs, lapped
the water up killed them right there. We were all
in the water. But he one time he dove in
in the water. I saved this lady who had disappeared.

(12:48):
She we had seen him for days. She was crazy lady.
And she kept walking back and forth, back and forth
across the uh Napoleon and we were saying, man, let's
take you out of here. This is like she's like
in chest deep and the manhole covers had blown off,
and if you stepped in a manhole, you were probably
gone because it would suck you.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Down and you're gone. And she went under like that.
Oh no, Well, instantly Seawan dove in and he found
her and saved her life. It's amazing story.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
He's an incredible guy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
I was very impressed with him. I like, I got
to know him on a personal level. And you know,
when you get on boats, folks, there's something for those
that don't change his men. The reason on boats what
men do is we kind of let her hair down
and we start talking about things that we would never
talk about. And in the boat, Sean started telling us
about his family life, really powerful messages, and and he was,

(13:36):
you know, basically he was saying, I'm trying to find
how I can really find the meaning of life here
in New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
He'd been in Orlves before.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
He liked well, and you know why he came to
New Orleans and he was well, he was working a movie,
but he he had met Dunk Brinkley through Hunter S.
Thompson and you know, I did that podcast with Curtis
Robinson Hunter Gatherers and basically they start he started coming
to New Orleans because Hunter would have him with Doug
in New Orleans and he fell with it, and that
eventually led to doing that movie that was, you know,

(14:03):
All the King's Men, that was he basically played Huey
Long you know, are playing on that. So all that
happened at the time, but I got to give you
one quick story before we go in, and that kind
of plays off and I used to tell armand Saint
Martin this story all the time. We got to kick
out of it. You know, we know from the data
now that basically New Orleans permanently lost thirty point nine
seven percent of its population overall population with Hurricane Katrina.

(14:27):
They left, went out of state and never came back. Didn't.
It wasn't Orleans went to Jefferson. They just we lost
a third obviously exactly, they just they went elsewhere. And
sort of emphasizing this that it didn't really start with Katrina.
It just went on steroids.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Was that.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
I ended up being evacuated of all places to Des Moines, Iowa.
And about a month then my friends was staying with
some college friends. They said, you know, there's this a
little street festival going on down the street. And it
was the end of September basically, and he said, well,
you know we got to be out this day.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
So I'm walked down. It's just a few blocks from
there house, and I hear coming through the sound for
the ether. I went on down to the autobn Zoo
and they all ask for you. I'm like, what the
I went to school in Iowa. I never heard that
song in the University of Iowa or anything. I'm like,
what is this? What was I was? I was only

(15:18):
zydeco band. Of course it was all white guys, which
so I don't think they really know the meaning is
zydeco when it comes in, But.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
They come in.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
But they come in, and so I see it. And
then I see a thing real Louisiana gumbo. Now I
start laughing because I remember being up in the Midwest
and looking for gumbo. One time I found a place
that said, h gumbo was red. It was like tomato soup.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
So I go up and I'm very skeptical.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
I go up to the guy, but lady who's working
behind the counter, and I said, okay, and being a
real ass, I said, how long you've been cooking the
rue of that gumbo? Without missing a beat? She says
twenty Oh. Okay, she says, our chef is from New Orleans.
Oh and this big, hulking black guy and uh, I go, look, Oh,
he must evacuate with the storm. That's what's doing. You
got a job making gumbo? So I go up to

(16:02):
him and I asked the quintessential New Orleans story, where'd
you go to school? Now? Missing a beat? Carver, he
knew exactly what I was asking, And I said, oh,
you evacuated storm? He said, yeah, the last one, Betsy,
I wasn't going back tonight one after that ever. Again
on that note, we're going to be joined by christ
Champaigne and film Alawsaw and there a fantastic show looking

(16:23):
back with a little bit of humor and a lot
of laughs and songs of Hurricane Katrina twenty years later.
This is our look back, artistically revisited look at Hurricane Katrina.
After these important messages take teven more of the Founded
Show right after.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
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These are the action steps we at the New Orleans
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as always I'm with my partner.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Christopher Tidmore, and ladies and gentlemen, we got it. It
is a unique show because we're looking back for those
that may have missed the opening stagments. If you listen
to us on WSLA ninety three point nine FM fifteen
sixty AM on Tuesdays and Thursday, usually hear a rather
dynamic comedic voice, and that is of the innumerable Chris Champagne,
and you often hear him bringing on his often performance

(19:16):
partner in crime. That's Philip Malawsong and Philip law saw
the balladiere of New Orleans music. We're going to insert
a couple of his music's a little later in the show,
but in the tradition that we're talking about Arman, we're
sort of following what their show will be. It's called
Katrina Does New Orleans Stories, Comedy and Songs. It's August

(19:36):
twenty eighth, twenty ninth, and thirtieth at eight pm, with
a Sunday matinee on August thirty first at two pm.
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I'm trying to make you money here. You know what
you what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (19:52):
It?

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Twenty is no inflation. Twenty dollars, yeah, it's You can
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but you can just buy at the door, of course.
And without further ado, let me introduce our special guest.
And some of you know Christ Champaign is my former

(20:15):
radio partner, and you know Chris Philip welcome to the program.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
And the funniest comedian in the city. Thank you, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
But there rest some have been evacuated, they worried vacuated, Yeah,
they were and didn't come back.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
Didn't come back. Yeah, they know what's good, they know
what's good for him.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
So tell us, Philip Milaws song, tell us what this
Katrina does New Orleans is, because you know, one of
the things that I think is so important looking back
at Katrina is a little laughter through tears. Everybody else
is saying, oh, did we ever recover what good bad
came through? You're approaching that, but you're approaching that a
little bit through song and humor.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Oh yees. Oh yeah.

Speaker 7 (20:59):
Well, first of all, the show's idea was Chris's idea,
and we just improved upon her. I'm just getting online
with everyone else is and and so obviously both Chris
and I and our friend Alden and my wife Heidi,
we quite often do comedic shows. And so with this

(21:23):
with Katrina, I had written an album twenty years ago,
so I had so I so I you know, used
the several songs from that program from that CD, and
and obviously Chris had a number of set pieces that
he's done or and could you know include in the show,
as well as Alden as well as Heidi, And so

(21:44):
we put these pieces together with a few extra little twists,
and you know, it was just interesting. And I think
people everything you hear as much like you were saying,
is dealing with the with the devastation and the heartache
of the studia, but like with anything else, as humor
in especially in New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Yeah, and that helps. The humor is very healing. It's
good to have hopefully.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
So yeah, yeah, christ Champagne, you you kind of do this.
Of course for those that listen to Christian's show, he
has many beds he used to he did it this week.
I was laughing as I was crying, do you wait, wait,
don't kill me? Latest routine? What are some of the
people if somebody shows up to Katrina does New Orleans
on the twenty eighth, twenty ninth, and thirty first at

(22:30):
Monkey Hill.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
What can they expect, Well, well.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
You can expect to hear some great songs that Philip
wrote during the storm, for one thing, and some new
ones as well. And his lovely wife Heidi, wh's a
great singer and great personality. And of course the King,
Alton Hagerdorn is always a good, good time guy, and
uh so you can expect that. And during this, during
the storm, like everybody, you know, I left hoping and

(22:56):
thinking I'd be coming right back like most people, and
uh having to like basically just watch TV and see
everything fall apart. And of course what I do is
political sacktire based on New Orleans and Louisiana generally. So
I started taking notes because there were a lot of
as usual, a lot of buffoons in charge. And I

(23:16):
actually came back, i'd say, about three months after the
storm with a show, and our great friend, Great Lowry
Beron was involved in it because I have a CNN
interview foe CNN interview where I had someone asked me
questions and Lowry was the first person that asked me
those questions. When I did the show, So I've repurposed
that seeing an interview to talk about basically the failure

(23:41):
of not only the Levies but the political leadership that
we had here, which is, you know, an ongoing thing
when you look at it now twenty years later. It's
kind of I don't know, I don't know how generally
I think that as individuals and as a city we've
come certainly a long way, but in other ways maybe

(24:04):
not so much, you know, And uh like one of
the things is, uh, I do say a little bit
about mister Nagan and uh at the time I said
that he was the first this is after Katrina, but
he was the first, you know, mayor of New Orleans
to be indicted, and it was after he was in office.
And I said that he may be the Jackie Robinson
of h New Orleans mayors perhaps, and uh so that

(24:26):
we will have more to come, and evidently we we have.
On the eve of our show, so uh, you know,
we talk about the levees and different things, and there
was there was some poignancy in the show as well,
but most of it, most of it's kind of lighthearted,
I think.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
So, yes, I so, Chris, Yes, you Uh, basically you're
like a New Orleans levee. You hold nothing back, right.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
Something like that. Yeah, I am, I'm I'm the one
Levey unto myself.

Speaker 7 (24:50):
Yes, we're wrong with that idea. You know, I'll live
right next to the levee.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
Lea that Levey by the river will never give analystic
that gives. That's Try to.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Think of this that was built one hundred and fifty
years ago with pickaxes, shovels, mules, wagons, and hard labor,
and it takes on the fiercest currents in the world
of any major river and it holds the water back
for about two months. Why could they build them well
properly back then, But they couldn't hold something for a

(25:21):
slow rising title surge.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
That would be up only for you know, a few
want maybe a day and then go back down.

Speaker 6 (25:26):
Well, the minimum wage hard fifty years ago was minus
two cents. You had to pay them two cents to work.
That's one of the reasons why you can't do.

Speaker 7 (25:33):
It, like going to playing. Obsolescence also is very helpful
because it puts people to work.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
That's right. Yes, they had to come back and build
new levies, that's right. Swimming coaches they built them out
of They built.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Them out of gumbo mud. Our levees were built the
hurricane protection gumbo mud. Literally it's I read the report
and they call it pete and the you know core
engineers report, it's called pete.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
You know, like everybody pete at the feed like like
a Scotch.

Speaker 6 (25:57):
Yeah, it's a mat out of scotch. Somebody who.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
It's like, yeah, bo n of course a film law
song Chris Champagne or whipp Us here on the Founder
show in W R and O and W S l
A and uh. You know you had to lat part
of being part of the experience of being a New
Orleanian is you gotta laugh because otherwise you cry. It's
it's people ask me, well, why is it? Eat, drink

(26:25):
and be merry because in this city from first one
hundred and fifty years of our history, because tomorrow you
probably could be dead, fire, flood and hurricane to get
your disease would so you better have a good time
in the time you got it. And it does allow
us to be a resilient people. And that's I think
the most important part when we're looking back at this
Yes we were built, Yes we came back, but we

(26:47):
basically became fiercely defensive of our culture. And I'm not
saying things are better. Some things are better than many
things are worse. But we we survived, which I don't
know how many play places where a million and a
half people can be evacuated and they all come back.
I just I will say, well, seventy seventy percent, well,

(27:07):
seventy percent of Orleans. But basically we lost. We lost
three hundred thousand people. Let's let's be precise in the
whole metro area.

Speaker 6 (27:15):
Well, you know, the president mayor should get some credit
because she's lost about thirty percent. There's no hurricane.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, it's really it takes couple of years.

Speaker 7 (27:22):
Yeah, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (27:24):
Arab Bruslaw, the genius arab Brusaw. He fledded Jefferson parished
to Hardway, were out, the levees breaking.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Held.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, you have to give some credit. So I ran
for the legislature in two thousand and seven. And houses
are still like gutted, and I'm knocking doors and metal
are on transcontinent and I come to this and I
and I recognize the name and it's the priest from
Saint Anne's and I knew an old priest. It was
a very very old school, you know, fire and brimstone priest.

(27:55):
And I'm kind of worried about knocking on a priest door.
And knocks on the door and it says, I said, father,
you know, I don't mean to disturb you, but I'm
running for the Louisiana Legislature. And if you know, sometimes
priest don't vote, but if you do, I hope you'll
consider my candidacy. And I expected questions about where you
are you pro life or this? He said, He said,
where do you stand on that bastard Aaron Brussard. I said,

(28:18):
I don't think it's a He's a good guy. And
he kind of flooded this whole place. He said, fine,
I'll vote for you. I don't want anybody supporting that
bed when you got a priest, he's chewing you out.
I'm like, poor yea.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Aaron's don't find now he's doing he got He's gone
into the law. Yeah, he's gone to the ministry. In
the ministry and he's only helping fallen politicians and ministers
and whatnot. He has a ministry with him. He's been
very good at it. I've been following him, I've got
I've got to know him much better. He's a nice guy.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
But he really blew it on.

Speaker 7 (28:50):
He obviously made some this wrong decision.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
I don't know what got into him.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
Actually explain it to you, Okay, God, thank you very much.

Speaker 7 (28:58):
Doctor.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
Explain some of it so you. When he was indicted,
you know, for misappropriating campaign funds, among other things, one
of the things that he used his campaign funds on
was a huge tropical fish tank for his office, and
he said, you have to understand, I have a very
stressful job as parish president. So this saltwater aquarium in
my office. When I would look at the fish, it

(29:22):
was very, very soothing, you see. So that's where we
found out that Evan Bruslard, psychiatrist, was a tropical fish. Okay,
that would explain it.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Maybe that's probably one of the streets to fly get
some fish in paid scale.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, this to Aaron Brussard. He thought he was saving
the pump operators from being killed. And there was like
and uh and of course, you know, which says something
about Ray Nagan, who couldn't have cared less about the
pump operators. Seeing him there in the land. But you know,
you look at Hurricane Katrina and you look at at
twenty years later and where our culture is. And I

(29:56):
actually have a kind of philosophical question. One thing that
we were always known, everybody was so afraid of this
the year after the storm, was that a lot of
our music, phill was, you know, came from the streets.
What I mean by that is you learn how to
play the horn, You learned this by the guy down
the street. And the idea is, would are would we
ever get that back? Would would those people ever come back?

(30:18):
And I was I was somewhere in you know, the
Saint Rock neighborhood, and I watched a kid learning from
a guy on the on the corner, and I'm like,
may not have come back to the same degree, but
it came back. Those families came back. That culture it's there.
The question is how much. I mean, obviously we don't
have the same.

Speaker 7 (30:34):
Thing we had then, but well, you know, it's come
back strong. It's come by very strong. And it not
just I mean not just the throughout the city. The
schools are now filled with a filled with young musicians, yea.
And they know, they know that music very well, are
ye traditional music of course as well as us we

(30:56):
got it's very you know Dandy Boka brought that back
and and music. Yes, it's very it's very much. Everybody
is a lot of people are chipping into this.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
The Baptist Seminary raised enough money to build a whole
new neighborhood down in the ninth Ward four musicians they
called Musicians Village.

Speaker 7 (31:13):
Yeah, of course, yeah. And I don't know where that
money came from, but if God bless them.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
But they did it well. They just had fundraisers and
what and so.

Speaker 7 (31:22):
But also I just thought about I used to have
this little coffee house the neutral ground.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
Yeah, I remember I used to that was yours. Yeah,
so anyway, it was great.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
So you know, let me let me let me say
this is somebody owns a coffeehouse. You know. Philip once
looked at me and he said, what are you crazy.
You're buying a corporate after you understand the non profit
businesses and no profit businesses, and you're getting.

Speaker 7 (31:42):
So we would nonprofit, but not on purpose. But but
you know, but we we put on musicians, young musicians
all that. So we put on the acts usually and
you know, and they went everywhere and they would come
into that coffee house.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Right.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
We booked over one hundred acts every month.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
And so listen to Richard Bvenue.

Speaker 7 (32:03):
Yeah well, yeah, sure, Richard, get.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Any compliment you because what you did to the neutral
ground for those that don't know, you did it, and
you did it for a decades. Basically you had it.
Twenty seven years is a long time. And the fact
is you provided a space for musicians and other artists,
you know, to come in and perform and just stand
up before everybody and have an audience. And that's incredibly hard.

(32:26):
We're trying to do that at the rink, you know,
and providing that is and just getting the word out
and getting that It's just that a lot of people
have a song to sing and they don't know where
to test it, they don't know how to get it out,
and so.

Speaker 7 (32:37):
You need that opportunity to go out in front of people.
Feels solisized safe. Shall we say that you're gonna be accepted.
You have a shot at it, and you get to
hone your tune, You get to hone your your skills.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
So thort Mylossa and Chris Champaigne are joining us we're
looking back. They have a new show coming out called
Katrina does New Orleans. It's gonna be like The Monkey
Hill Bar August twenty eighth, twenty nine, thirtieth at eight
pm and Sunday the thirty posted two pm and post.
So if somebody can't get it online, they can actually
buy a ticket at the door, right.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
Yeah, unless it's sold out.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah yeah, well we'll hope it's sold out.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
Well then most sometimes it happens when Philip Philip. There's
a lot of great shows, and sometimes most of the
time it's not. But sometimes so if you're coming a
long way, you should call for reservation.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
And of course you can call.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
And again it's twenty dollars, not thirty. It's only thirty
dollars for the media.

Speaker 7 (33:29):
Well, you can just pay a soup, yeah, combo, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
And it's is sort of the Katrina. It is the
Monkey Hill of course for those that don't know it.
Sixty one hundred magazine. It's right. I always tell people
it's right across right, it's the Purls.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Right across the Parl.

Speaker 6 (33:43):
Autumn Tavern Autumn Taverns who it used to be.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Eighty two's and of course if you want to call
for more information in reservation five h four two or
two zero nine eighty six and gentlemen, I guess I
want to ask you because you're going through and you
go through a lot of humor. I'm not trying to
get you to give away some of the show because
obviously that goes in We're trying to play a little
amusing Yeah, but uh, I mean, you have done a

(34:10):
lot of comedy on instead of looking at our changes,
what happens from Hurricane Katrina and what is what is
the one of the more absurd things that you talked
about that was so absurd, it was funny, but even
you couldn't believes well it was so well.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
One one thing that I thought of, Uh, I don't
even know if this is in the show exactly, but
you know, the tragedy at the convention Center, for instance,
Oh yeah, everybody's down there, no food, no water, and
nobody's coming to help. Seems like yeah, but but the
convention Center in particular, what I'm about to say, I mean,
you know, all Kathleen Blanco and her her crack crew

(34:49):
needed to do was throw like about one hundred thousand
and two liter coca cola bottles into the river, river
and bat and rouge. They would have got to the
convention center, right, I mean, that's not kind of simple.
It could have been you know with the school nets.
You know, everybody's got a scoop net, and I mean, uh,
you know. One of the things that uh I talk
about is the levees, about how the levees were maintained.
And I do have a story actually about a levee

(35:11):
board member who I saw at chat Noir. I did
Sunday a telegram to uh Helena moreno and told her
that I want to I want to be her bodyguard.
So uh, the only end. But anyway, okay, I know
first I said it first, Okay, I said it, Okay,

(35:33):
so yeah, that's right, that's right. Yeah, So, uh, I
talk about the levees, about the levee board I met.
I ran into a levee board member who's the levee
board member before the stormboard during when the storm hit,
and he uh, I'll tell a little story about that
in the show. I'm not going to give it away now,
but that was something that you know, Jack Farren kind
of absurd actually in real life. But uh, you know,

(35:57):
the absurdity of uh, you know, I did. I did
the show a show about three months after con trying
and I came down. I did a show at Users
by the Track, and since there was nothing going on
in New Orleans, I had a like standing room only crowd,
and a lot of people thought it might have been
too soon to make fun. But you know, but I
made fun of, you know, the politicians. You know, I
didn't make fun of people drowning and stuff.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
You know.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
And one of the things that I'm gonna talk about
is h solutions, because you come up with these absurd
solutions to things and about the levees. And I was
watching TV, you know, like everybody else, like I said before,
during our diaspora, and I'm watching the Nature Channel and
it's like two beavers, two little bitty beavers. They build

(36:41):
something as big as the Great Wall of China with sticks, okay,
and it doesn't give in. So I'm thinking, you know,
all we gotta do is get rid of the corps
of engineers and buy like, you know, five thousand beavers.
Take all those trees that got knocked down all on
the roads and throw them in the canals and let
the beavers take care of the answer to the levies
is very simple.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Nature. Beavers beavers beavers.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
So it's kind of a Champagne folks, and the beavers
can go to their first cousins and train them.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
I'm talking about the nutria and the nutri ca and
we got plenty of nutrient on here.

Speaker 6 (37:16):
We do, yeah too, Mady, Actually, yeah right.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Christian Champaigne has joined Heian mckinnery and Christopher Tibneer along
with thermal Wall song christ and foll have Katrina Disney Orleans,
performing August twenty eighth, twenty ninth, and thirtieth and eight
pm and August thirty first at two pm at the
Monkey Hill sixty one hundred magazine. And it's it's sort
of their way of looking back at Hurricane Katrina, and

(37:39):
you know, finding the humor in the situation and let
us have a little laughter through tears and phil at
your parodies and your music that you've done over the years.
I mean, I'm I'm gonna play one of your songs,
like based one of your favorite songs I have. It's
to me. You wrote this way before Hurricane Katrina. You
performed it on my show before Hurricane Katrina. It was

(38:02):
it's you know, the inability to have a left turn
on two lane Avenue. He was like the impossibility of
traffic you turned into a comedy song, you know, you
know what?

Speaker 7 (38:10):
Yeah, no fatter, So I didn't I did write that song,
at least I didn't write the bones of the song.
The great Sam Adams roight way back with you know.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
His son and I was hard son and I were
good friends when when I was young. Really yeah, he
was a heck of a guy. Yeah. Who did he
play at the at the instead of certain role? He
used to play every.

Speaker 7 (38:29):
Place on Tulane Avenue lack of quality. And he would say,
but Sam played everywhere. Yeah, I mean New Orleans as
far as the piano bar.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
And let me ask you because a lot of people
used to go the Caribbean Room and everything to see
you play, and uh, they kind of miss your regular gigs.
But you're still out there playing when you're not doing
this show.

Speaker 7 (38:49):
Well, good Saturdays over at the Hilton Riverside down, Q.
Often we do shows and.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
You play the piano. Oh yeah, wow are you a
full time musician?

Speaker 2 (38:58):
The words?

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Yeah, ash as you.

Speaker 7 (39:00):
Could be full time?

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 7 (39:01):
Sometimes you gotta know, you gotta fit in your golf
and you gotta fit in your sleep. And aside from
that socialization then I'm a musician.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
I Saw and christ champagn have been joining us here
on the program. Of course, the final thoughts as we
go before we go out with the music about what
people can expect at Katrina does New Orleans, which is
of course at the Monkey ho Bar at eight pm
on August twenty eighth, twenty ninth, and thirtieth, and two
pm on August thirty first, sixty one hundred magazine.

Speaker 6 (39:29):
Well, one of the things that I'm going to do,
like I've talked about it before, is I'm going to
have a faux interview that as if we were doing
it right after Katrina and I also have later in
the show. I have some observations about things have had
that happened then that we're kind of under the radar,
and things that I think how.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Far we've come.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
I mean, that's one of the things doing the show,
just now thinking about it, about how it would be
interesting to see all of the predictions of all the
urban planners and all the talking heads about you know,
what New Orleans was going to be like twenty years
from now. One particular person said that he can foresee
New Orleans becoming a boutique city. And I don't know

(40:12):
if we are we beat boutiquing or are we just
an actual city. Doug Berkeley wrote that, oh you mean
America's historian, Oh.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Blakely, we came up in our conversation earlier.

Speaker 7 (40:26):
I heard it early this they came up.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Well.

Speaker 6 (40:28):
Doug is mentioned in my show.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
He's mentioned a few times in my dream.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
What does he say? Oh no, we gotta come here,
gotta go h information.

Speaker 6 (40:36):
I can tell you this, it's in his own words.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
We're going to close out with a little bit of
Phillips music. Gentlemen, thank you for so much for joining us.
We encourage you to join high and I thank you.
Katrina does New Orleans on August twenty eighth, twenty nine,
and thirtieth at eight pm or on the thirty first
at two pm at Monkey Hill Bar, sixty one hundred magazine.
He can find out. Tickets are twenty dollars. You can
call five or four two zero ninety four two Tuesday

(41:03):
ninety six on The Low Songs at gmail dot com.
The Lawsongs at gmail dot com. A little bit of
foot law song and the sewage and waterboard.

Speaker 7 (41:14):
They come with the hip hoots on the ship Brook.
So go here John who.

Speaker 8 (41:21):
Badged up pumps after pitching down four men, up the
sewers and low the boys.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
On un strouble.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
They come on the.

Speaker 7 (41:32):
Double Blood, being working folding on the shovel.

Speaker 8 (41:35):
They break the kind freedoms, for gett streets and recod
at leaving rob The work is just a basing every
cat's bases that need to breathe the ks and breaking
carley palm the first time you press the handle. A
lot of tankers and the product disappears to seifer things.
I've broke the accustom to the waists and brow bringing

(41:58):
out not bringing it.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Come see Philip Malawsaw and Chris Champaign and Katrina does
New Orleans Stories, Comedy and Songs August twenty eighth, twenty ninth,
and thirtieth, eight pm and Sunday August thirty first at
two pm at Monkey Hill sixty one hundred Magazine. Tickets
are twenty dollars five oh four to two oh two
zero nine eighty six or Mylawsongs at gmail dot com.
We'll be back with a patriotic moment and Chaplinhei McHenry

(42:21):
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Speaker 4 (43:20):
Folks. Is Chaplin.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
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Speaker 3 (44:48):
Back in this chaplain, high Micenry, it's not time for
us to go into our chaplain bahe ba patriotic moment.
We'll just take a brief moment to remind you of
the Biblical foundations for our country, our judio Christian jurisprudence,
and as our founding follows through many disasters, catastrophes and
everything else, like the Jamestown Colony, about two years after
it was farmed, lost ninety percent of their colony from

(45:08):
disease and hunger and starvation, and of course Indian attacks.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
It was bad, folks.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Imagine there was a ninety percent of everybody in your
little community. Well, they survived it. It was tough, but
they called on God always from that far back. In fact,
that one of the early settlements after Jamestown, before the Pilgrims,
there was another group like the Pilgrims that came in
and they were called the Berkeley They were a Brethren group.
They founded the Berkeley Settlement. They had a Thanksgiving Day

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way but you know a few years before the Pilgrims,
and it's an ongoing Thanksgiving Day to this day. It's
the longest ongoing Thanksgiving of all the original thirteen British colonies. Folks,
do you know what they did on their Thanksgiving Day?
They prayed and fasted. Do you know that almost every
time there was a disaster in America for about two
hundred years, close to three hundred years, really, every time

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there was some kind of an active God, you know, hurricanes, droughts, attack,
you know, war, whatever it was, whatever the disaster was,
our ancestors prayed, and they prayed hard, and they would
take a whole day off to pray and fast all
day long. Folks, these guys were serious, they were committed.

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God was in the middle of everything they were doing.
And if we really want to make America great again,
and I certainly do, it's not really going to go
anywhere until we put God in the middle of it.
And that depends not on our politicians but upon we
the people. It depends upon our churches. The churches need
to have revival and then we're really going to see
America coming back and being made great again. So folks,

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remember that as you think about all these things, and
you think about America and you're interested in your patriotic duty,
remember our ancestors prayed and fast. Thomas Jefferson called for
the whole nation to pray and fast after the Boston
Tea Party, and we did. The whole country hit their
knees and prayed and fasted for a whole day. That
was normal on the inauguration day for George Washington, when

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America became America. That's the birthday of America with the Constitution.
On that inauguration day in seventeen eighty nine in New York,
the whole country was called to pray and fast, and
they did for the whole day. So folks, this goes
way back in our heritage. It's so important. And when
Katrina was here, I guarantee you there was a lot

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of praying and fast. In fact, we had an experience
where we'd run a motor boat oil. We'd do search
and rescue. We couldn't we shut down, our boats wouldn't run.
You know, nobody was there. Well, if you were there,
you'll notice there was almost nobody there except a few
And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, down the block,
this guy comes running towards I could see him runing
to another. What's the deal with this guy? He gets
right up to us, and right before he reaches us,

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he stops. He pulls out from the back something in
a bag he had. He pulls it out. It's a
can of motorboat oil. We were stunned. That's exactly what
we needed. We had just finished praying for it, Folks.
When that man left, I kept looking for a wing
sticking out of his shirt. That I'm telling you, God
answers prayer, and during times of emergency and great catastrophes,

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it's time to pray. So we were praying during Katrina.
We were keeping the tradition up the American tradition up.
You know, the nuns prayed for us when we had
great hurricanes in the past at the convent Ursuline Convent
and during the Battle of New Orleans. Their prayers literally
came unfolded on the day of the battle, and nobody

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knew about it at the battles. But when they came back,
Jackson came by.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
He found out.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
At each major event in the battle, that's what the
nuns were praying for. Every man, woman and child, old,
young and children and women of every denomination Jews, krekaka
Allen's processes were. They were all at the convent praying.
This was the most desperate time. Praying is so important
for us because we we want to have God in
the middleburge government, not institutionally but philosophs.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
So, folks, what about you? Is God in the middle
of you. I'm gonna tell you right now. You can know.
You know, the Bible says, for God's soul love the world.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
That's you, that's everybody that he gave his only begotten son,
that's the Lord Jesus Christ, perfect God and perfect man.
All the way God and all the way man. He
gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever that's you again
believeth in him. Now you say believe, What do you
mean believe? Well, you know what belief is trusting, believing,
but believing in what believing in him? Okay, we do

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believe in him. It's a little bigger than that. It's
called the gospel. The scripture says, a gospel is the
power of God under salvation to whosoever believeth. The scripture says,
for I declaring the gospel that Jesus died for all
of our sins, that he was buried, and that he
rose from the dead, according to the scriptures. Folks, that's
the gospel. Believe that Jesus really did die for all

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your sins. But before you do that, you got to
believe you can't save yourself. And when you do that,
that's called repentance. It's critical, it's vital. So believe first
of all that you can't save yourself. Your hope is
and helps with out God destined to a burning hell.
When you get to that point in your life, you
finally reach the point where you'll only trust Jesus and
nothing else. You're not going to trust yourself, how religious

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you are, how rich you are, how charming you are,
anything else you got going for you, you get realize
none of that works.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
It's a complete loss. You're a total loser. And so
the only thing that can save you and make you
a winner is Jesus, and folks, you'll do it.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
I know it.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
I've seen it so many times.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Believe right now that Jesus died for all your sins,
was buried and Roseman dead because you believe you cannot
do it yourself. That's repentance, folks. So what about disasters
we talk, we're remembering a great disaster that hit and
nu Once you know that, the Bible says, because it's
not time for us to go on our watchmen on
the wall, we just take a brief moment to remind

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you of all of the signs. They are over two
hundred signs. We can't do them all right now. I
try to do one at a time. But you know,
because of could train, I figured now's a good time
to do it. And that is that when Jesus comes back,
there are going to be all kinds of signs to
let us know he's coming, all kinds of signs. Knowledge
would increase my goodness you know what has happened in
Olives with Ai and everything else, that people will be back.

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During Jesus time, nobody travel more than about ten miles
from the house.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
And that was it. That was it.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
And it stayed like that up until we got started
getting railroads and steamboats and when and all of a sudden,
people started to travel a lot more. Today, do you
know that everybody's traveling all over the place. And that
was one of the signs that they'd be mass travel
all around the world at the end. But another thing
are disasters, that there would be earthquakes and violent upheavals
of nature, just like the flood of Noah. We're not

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going to have a flood like that again, but we're
going to have major disasters that hit the world.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
You could call them.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
An act of God, because God is going to be
judging this earth to wake us up, not to hurt us,
but to bring us to our senses. Because a very
evil man is going to be rising, called the Antichrist,
and he's going to be the ultimate evil. It's gonna
make Adolf hit look like a nice guy. And he's
going to be the most powerful human being that ever lived.
He's going to have the power to take over the world.
And when he does, he's going to do just what

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Hitler and Stalin did and all the other Sicico dictators
d I mean and whatever he is going to become
begin to mass slaughter the human race, and there's going
to be mass killings all around the world. In fact,
it's so bad that and I believe this that according
to the scripture, at the end, there's only going to

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be about five percent of the entire planet left standing.
That's how huge the death rate is going to be. Folks,
It's going to be bad. The disasters and everything gets
so bad. So, folks, if you've never figured out what
to do about this, get yourself a bunker. I've got
the greatest bunker company going. It's called the Jesus Christ
Bunker Company, Incorporated. All you got to do is go

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to him, make him your safe house, your bunker house.
Believe that he died for all your since, was buried
and rosaved dead, and you're guaranteed safety in the most
dangerous time the world will ever know, coming to a
neighborhood near you very very soon. And I'm talking about
the tribulation period, the apocalypse. Well, folks, thank you so
very much. It's not time for us to go. As
we close with it again with our precious Menstreul of

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the show armand Saint Martin singing a queole goodbye and
God bless all out there.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Does this have to be the end of the nerd?

Speaker 6 (53:20):
You know I love you.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
In the pamal Land, I can see across the million stars.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
When I look at.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
We can buse against the sun time.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
I suppose you couldn't.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Call little cras if we take just the leatle longer
to see our cont