The Founders Show #469

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Bite holes and politicians addressed to digitdatas and magicians troops. You see the
money, then you don't. There'snothing to feel. The holes while then
fell in their pockets, bite holes, the politicians mouncing down the route every

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bysuisition for no mom corruption and dysfunction. It's gonna take intervention. New Orleans
District Attorney Jason Williams really want tobecome governor? Well, it's about as
clear as mud, and the legislativesession is hardly any clearer. Will the
House allow the Senate to essentially decidethe budget with that a lot of money

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for bridges and roads or a lotof money for debt? And speaking of
going into debt, the debt billpassed the Congress, and to some extent
it was a Republican wish list,but a very modest This has caused a
rebellion. What it will be theimplications of that and who are the winners
and losers? Hint one of thewinners is Louisiana Congressman Garrett Graves, who
negotiated the bill and is currently themost powerful man on Capitol Hill. All

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this and more on this edition ofThe Founder's Show and God Bless all out
there you and I are listening tothe founders. So the voice of the
founding fathers, your founding fathers,coming to you deep within the bowels of
those mystic and cryptic alligator swamps ofthe Big Easy, that old Crescent City,

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New Orleans, Louisiana. And Hi, up on top of that old
liberty Cypress tree draped in Spanish mossway out on the Eagles Branch, is
none other. Then you've been gearyby by the republic Chaplain high mcgenry.
Who if Christopher Tidmore, you're rovingreporter, resident radical moderate and associate editor
of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at LouisianaWeekly dot net. Now, Hi,

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if you remember last week's show,we talked about the fact that the Treasurer
John Schroder's running for governor and he'srunning this kind of weirdly stealth campaign that
on the same note where he's runninga public campaign a lot of advertising five
hundred thousand dollars in the first quarterof this year, he's also running this
campaign where he's trying to get AfricanAmerican support, Democratic support, and others

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because he was hoping that this won'tcome down to a Jeff Landry and a
single Democrat running that he could kindof run up the center. Well,
in order to do that, youneeded to have another Democrat in the race,
prefably an African American Democrat who coulddivide the vote. Well. The
district attorney off New Orleans started tobe floated on Wednesday as a candidate for

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governor. Jason Williams, far tothe left of Sean Wilson. John Wilson,
the former Transportation secretary, is runninga campaign that's very close to John
Bell Edwards's kind of image, youknow, kind of a moderate Democrat image.
On the other hand, you've gotJason Williams, who is sort of
the leader of the progressives in thestate, though he has gone back to
utilizing maximum prosecutorial power. Well,anyway, Jason william sent an email on

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Thursday, and you usually an emaillike this as one of two things.
Many people have asked me to runfor governor, and I'm seriously consideringgan or
Many people have asked me to runfor governor. I'm truly honored, but
you know, at this point,I'm happy being District Attorney of New Orleans.
Right. He sent an email that'sabout as clear as dirt. Ladies

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and gentlemen, listen to the lastparagraph. I am honored that well respected
people throughout the state are urging meto consider this post at such a critical
moment. I was certainly not thinkingabout running, given my full docket and
progress of my office early in theterm. These debates, however, would
be different if I were to jointhe race, and being in a contest
with a candidate who is publicly workingharder to ban more books than high powered

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assault weapons has some appeal. JeffLandry has shown his priorities are purely political,
and I'm not gonna let the cityof New Orleans be upon it as
self serving aspirations. However, hesays, I'm my family have no desire
to leave New Orleans. Now myfirst thought is he's not going to run.
But the more I look at thisemail, the more like he basically
said nothing. He spends it's Theemail is six paragraphs long, and in

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six paragraphs talking about how terrible JeffLandry is a person, which is fine
if you're going to run for office, he manages, by the end of
it to say absolutely nothing. Now, maybe this is the essence of a
great litigator, and I'll give JasonWilliams some credit on the standpoint of being
a lawyer who's full of sound andfury signifying nothing. But ultimately this email

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goes out and nobody knows if JasonWilliams is going to run for governor against
Sean Wilson. He praises Sean Wilsonin the email too, which makes it
even more interesting, while he spendsbasically, you know, four paragraphs attacking
Jeff Landry. It's an incredible email. I encourage you to look on it
online, he said. But thepoint is for John Schroeder's strategy, the

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stealth strategy, to work, hehas to have another Democrat in the race.
Well, the same interesting thing happenedjust as soon as his email out
John Belton, the District attorney ofEvangeline Parish, who was running for Attorney
General. African American Democratic district attorney. Guess what decides not to run for
AG There's no Democrat in that race. So maybe this was sort of like

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keep your eyes open and maybe youqualify for something by the time qualifying concludes
on August tenth. Who knows?I do know this right now, all
things being equal, John Schroeder whogot the endorsement as we noted a last
week's show of Reverend Byron Clay,the former president of the Southern Christian Leadership
Conference nationally and a very key playerin the African American civil rights community.

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Here he had gotten many sort ofthe African American and Democratic leaders behind him.
He was going nowhere because Jeff Landrystill is about thirty five percent in
the polls. Sean Wilson's about thirtyfive percent in polls because he's the only
Democrat. So that's pretty much thefloor for a Democrat in Louisiana. Barack
Obama got forty one percent. Thatgives you an idea, that's kind of

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the way you measure things in Louisiana. What did Barack Obama get? And
that's kind of the floor. Andso looking at all of this, ladies
and gentlemen, I don't know it'sgonna happen in the governor's race, but
I don't know a whole lot haschanged any more than a whole lot has
changed in the presidential race. Ifyou had noticed, we talked about this
not incredible launch of the Florida governorvia Twitter, but he has had a
much better first week. But sincethat has happened, we've had other candidates

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jump in the race. Tim Scott, we talked about it looks like our
former vice president is going to bejumping in the race. There's an active
field. And what's interesting is thatDonald Trump's rhetoric has gotten a little bit
more even by Trump's stands a littlebit more surly. I gotta say this
one makes no sense to me ifyou're Donald Trump. But I guess people

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seem to be cheering it, soI guess it's a smart political strategy.
Kaylee mcinanny goes on television, goeson Fox News, and her words are,
and I'm not making this up,Donald Trump is unbeatable in a primary.
He's leading Ron de Santis by twentyfive points. He is going to
be the nominee. He's going towin the president. Now you'd think that
would at most get a thank you, Kaylee for your ardent support. What

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he gets is Kaylee milkintoast mcinanny,how terrible she is, how Fox News
is. This is a former presssecretary, it's former agent. When I
read that, I was like,it is Donald Trump investing in one America
network? Now because he's really raggingon Fox News, but um ultimately high.
When I'm looking at the presidential race, I'm seeing the same thing I'm

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seeing the Louisiana governor's race the yearbefore. Other candidates are getting in.
It's not changing the front runner status. Jeff Landry has a position in Louisiana
very similar to Donald Trump. ThoughI'll give the man credit. He doesn't
have the personal and sexual problems donaldTrump has. He's never cheated on his
wife. Jeff Landry's pretty much prettystraightforward on the personal ethics front. And
I'm a critic of Jeff Landry,but I'm gonna give him credit. I

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mean, he's not there's people arelike you, so you can go after
an ideologically, you can't go afterhim personally. And he actually, when
you meet him one on one,he comes off as a nice guy in
a way that even Trump doesn't.But on the other hand, he is
kind of at the ceiling and thefloor we go in the governor's race,
Landry is going to have the advantage, but a lot of Republicans are just

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going to stay home because of JeffLandry. I don't know if there's enough
Republicans in the presidential field anymore thereis in the governor's field to be able
to come in. And that's thepredicate upon which John Schroeder has based his
campaign, the same as Richard Nelson, the same as Sharon Hewitt. However,
here's what I'm hearing. Richard Nelson, he's looking at the other field.
If there's no Democrat in the age'srace. Sharon hewitts an attorney as

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well, they may actually run forone of the other offices. Ac Sharon
Hewitt's got a lot of money.There are people who are saying that she
would be keen to take on BillyNunguests or for Lieutenant governor, who so
far has no real competition. He'sone of the only incumbents running for reelection.
The Secretary of States race is goingto be a credibly competitive contest,
but that's open collar. Dwin's notrunning, so Clayia, next Niner,

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Mike Francis and others are in thatfield. So the race. Who's going
to be into the races? Icould make a gamble right now that Jeff
Landry is going to feed Sean Wilsonin a runoff, but you never know.
Everybody's hoping that this race resembles inLouisiana the famed UM for those that

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don't know Buddy Roma race. Andthis is where aging ourselves. But Buddy
Romer, who was running fifth inUM, and he was a conservative Democratic
congressman from North Louisiana when there reallywas such a thing. He voted with
the white with a reagulan administration likeninety percent of the time. But he
was a Democrat from Northwisiana. DogDemocrat. What's before the term blue dog?
You know, I know, yeah, I mean he was this is

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this was truly the truly yellow dog. And he wasn't a yellow dog.
A yellow dog Democrat meant, ifyou're a Democrat, you voted, no
matter who the person, it wouldbe a yellow dog. And even if
they just put a yellow dog upto run, you'dote. I understand the
meanings, but I also but Ialso said the blue dog came about because
you know, we're a bunch ofblue dogs because we were such a minority

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in the term. It was itwas, it was, it was.
It was Billy Tosend was Billy Tozendhad the blue dog painting in his office,
and that's why they called themselves theblue dogs, and they're sitting there
looking at the painting, trying todescribe what they felt like being the last
conservative Democrats. And that's they said. We're a bunch of blue dogs sit
in here anyway. But the pointI'm getting in all of this is Buddy

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Romer was fifth in the field.It looked like Rodrigue, where he's fifth
in the field, he is nobodygives him a chance where everybody's qualified.
It looks like you're going to seea situation where Bob Livingstein is gonna be
the Republican, Edwin Edwards is goingto be the Democrat, and maybe Richard
I could kind of throw this up, there's other people in the field,

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but it was kind of it was. It looked like it was going to
be that race. Bob Livingston wasgoing to be the Republican standard bearer and
that was going to the end ofit. Edwards was he going to get
a fourth term at that point,and Buddy Romer puts an ad out.
He spends all of his money onone ad. I make some people angry.
I'm going to take the the topI'm going to brick up the top
three floors of a Department of Educationand pay to teachers. I've paid.

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It was this great populist conservative populistcampaign where he came from nowhere and suddenly
ends up in a runoff with Edwards. Now he's against a conservative Democrat and
a runoff rummer had and become aRepublican. Yet it's a different thing.
Edwards decides not to concede the race. He doesn't run in for a runoff.
He knows he's gonna lose. Hedoes come back four years later and
becomes governor, so it does actuallywork. But he's watching this whole situation.

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The problem is, I don't thinkwe're that Louisiana anymore. We're not
in this position where ideology and partisanloyalties are that fluid. We're a much
more solid situation. I'll give youan example. So right now, the
race for who's going to be thenext Senate President in House speakers heavily on
a lot of people are saying,you know, it should be just whoever

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is the leading Republican. Well,of course, the legislature is one of
a few places where Democrats are theswing vote, but that's becoming less and
less true. Cameron Henry, astate senator from the Jfferson Parish area who
know I know very very well,has essentially predicated his idea that he can
get elected using just Republican votes.But Henry, who has done this,

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Cameron has many great attributes. Heused to be Seef Scalise's assistant. He
did us for Admittedly I ran againstCameron Henry, but Cameron's sort of your
conventional Republican conservative leader and inst onlyjust a little rabbit trail here. Steve
Scalise played a major role in thisrecent victory for the budget and that we
finally maybe get it all through andwe won't devaulved well and we're gonna talk

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about and we're gonna and we're gonnatalk about the debt limit in the second
right, So we're gonna But anyway, long story short, Cameron Henry is
trying to run in this except somethinginteresting happened. Now while all the debt
stuff is going on in DC.The highest reference, and we'll talk about
after the break, something has beenhappening in Louisiana. And what's been happening
in Louisiana is we have the biggestsurplus we have had since nineteen seventy nine.

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We are a walk shouldn't money.We got an extra five hundred million
dollars because we got a sales taxis about to expire, but it's still
putting in money we don't need,or at least it doesn't need. For
the basic part of the budget.We have a huge, an ungodly amount
of truly ungodly amount of COVID funds. Because Louisiana, our economy was less

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dependent, it didn't shut down quiteas much as the northern economies did.
Our economy is based on natural resources. The tourism industry was heavily hit,
which is big for New Orleans,but most of the rest of the state.
We're an industrial petrochemical state that wekept making petrochemicals even though there was
a pandemic. It didn't stop.Other stuff we do didn't stop. And
we have a huge amount of BPmoney. This is the last year that

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we get the big money from BP, so that's still in the budget.
So the Senate went forward and putforward a piece of legislation where we spend
all of that money. Their argumentis this, we need to build a
new bridge and Baton Rouge, newBridge and Lake Charles. We need to
build new roads knew this, andso why not spend the cash for the
infrastructure than barring the money. Now, a critic of this idea might point

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out that, well, we mightnot spend all of this money, and
all this in one man's pork isanother man's pleasure. We might not get
all this pork if we do it, and some people that pointed out where
the House Conservative Caucus. Cameron usedto be one of the leaders of the
House Conservative Caucus. He was oneof the founders of it. They're trying
to assemble thirty two House members toblock the Senate budget. You have to

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under the Louisiana Constitution, you gottahave a two thirds majority to bust the
constitutionally mandated spending caps. And theHouse passed a budget that kinda does it.
It spends two hundred million more dollarsthan normal, but it's really not
that big a deal. It spendsall the extra surplus money to pay down
debt. They argumentage you paid ondebt. You have more money released in
the budget, you can do morethings long term. That doesn't really get

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you many votes because you can't builda bridge that way, but it gets
you a better fiscal situation. Now, why am I telling you all of
this situation, because that's going tobe resolved one or another. The House
Conservative Caucus is trying to get thirtytwo votes to block the Senate bill.
I don't know if they'll succeed.Right now, it's looking like this.
It is very popular when the Speakerof the House comes to you, When

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klaisheck Snyder comes to you and says, how many millions do you want for
your pet projects in your district?That is a very hard thing to vote
against because for those who say,oh damn port power of politics, I'm
sure everybody knows of something worthy intheir district, a park, a drainage
project, a school, something thatdesperately needs money that's been forgotten. That's
where it gets tricky because you'll say, well, yeah, but my project

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was good. It adds it up. Cameron Henry voted for the Senate bill
even though he's trying to get votesjust from Republicans. So my question is
is voting for fiscal irregularity, fiscalabundance, you know, fiscal ineptitude,
someone'd call it, but these areroads and bridges mostly. Is that going

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to hurt him becoming the next SenatePresident after the next term, or are
the people who are running for theSpeaker of the House. I don't know,
but I am telling you that it'sbeen a very interesting comparison to watch
what's been happening in Washington with what'sbeen happening in Baton Rouge. That's gotten
a lot less coverage. For onereason, we don't print our own money,
so you know, if we don'tfund everything in Washington, we don't

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get a budget through in Louisiana.It's not like the whole country and economy
collapses. You don't have a debtlimit in Washington. Wall Street tends,
you know, the foreign markets tendto drop the dollar. Wall Street that
tends to go down. That's everybody'sform one ks go. It's a really
bad situation. We'll talk about whathappened, and particularly the two main players
in this debait, one with StevesScalise. The other one was Baton Rouge
Congressman Garrett Graves. He and Patrickmckenry are the ones who negotiated the deal

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with the White House. And we'regoing to talk about their stock after the
break. But I gotta tell you, Hi, watching this in Baton Rouge
I'm watching it with a certain There'sa wonderful word in German schleckenforud, and
it means taking pleasure in the agonyof others. And I'm like, well,
that's a pretty Unchristian attitude. ButI'm watching this because a lot of

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these guys that are spending all thismoney are the ones who could have to
come back after the elections when apoint four cent five cent sales tax goes
away and all these governments and figureout how to deal with one billion dollar
deficit. So it's really easy tospend money when you got it. It's
very politically non advantageous to put thatmoney away for a rainy day when you're

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gonna need it, and we're definitelygonna need it next year. Interesting,
Chris, as always, you gotyour finger on the pulicy here. I
really appreciate you keeping it so wellinformed about Louisiana politics and Nwleans politics and
eventually federal also, I'll go toyou and I Folks. Remember now,
we don't always agree on everything,but Chris, I I have a great
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callins. We may not always agreeand that's okay. When we disagree,
we'll just agree to disagree, butnot be disagreeable, and that is our
goal here. I actually had toonly throw off one person on my show
who went so insane. I'm talkingabout you just heat it one day and
I had to kick him off.He was Carson screaming, holland you name
it. He's a big hardcore liberalguy. Um well, I can't even

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think it's a flaming liberal. Buthaving said that, ladies and gentlemen,
we always try to I mean,there's a lot of issues that are pretty
emotional. Of course they don't saygay bill with the legends. Well,
so we're going to talk about alot of stuff, but when we come
back, we're going to tell youthe inside story about how Kevin McCarthy got
through his debt ceiling thanks to Louisianalegislators and thanks to actually three we've mentioned

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two names. You know what's thename we haven't mentioned. Troy Carter.
Oh yeah, Troy Carter, memberof the Black Hawcus but also a very
close friend of Garrett Graves and SteveScalise. He got HACKEM. Jeffers to
basically do what's called a green card. We'll explain what a green card is.
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don't say gay and all that goodstuff, I do want to say that
one of the things that has annoyedme about the kind of reporting about the
debt ceiling controversy is, I mean, we can look at the basic stuff,
which is there is literally nothing inthe debt ceiling deal that a Democrat
would have voted for. I mean, I know a lot of Republicans are
really mad, but you go pieceby piece, whether it's work requirements for

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you know, for food stamps,whether it's cutting the budget, whether it's
whether it's that pipeline that goes throughVirginia West Virginia. Other than Jill Mansion,
there isn't a Democrat who would havevoted for any of the stuff.
Yet it wasn't good enough because itdidn't go far enough the purity of it.
But the part that I found interestingwas there were twenty because they were
twenty nine votes short, the FreedomCaucus decided to vote against it. That

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the votes had to come from somewhere, and obviously Democrats came in. It
wasn't what what happened for those initially, as there was before you can vote
on a bill like this at thelast minute, you have to change the
rules, and there was a ruleschange and the rules change. They had
a lot of Democrats who had votedagainst it, who they were waiting.

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They were all paying attention to theDemocratic leader, Hakim Jeffers, and when
Hakim Jeffers held up a green card, there was a rush fifty one Democrats
to the floor to change their votein a few hadn't actually voted yet,
but basically vote for the Republican measure. And a lot of people are like,
oh, Joe Biden saved, youknow, Joe Biden saved Kevin McCarthy.

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There's some truth in that. There'sno doubt that the President wanted to
get this through. And for alot of Democrats, you know, Republicans
may have been screaming about how terribleit was, but there was nothing for
Democrats in this bill. I literallylooked for something agent. But here's the
thing. They took all the irsmoney and put it to save other thing
things in the pocket. So theywere able to take the money away.

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What they did was is this wonderfulnews. This is what they pressed for
small guys like us. That's theydidn't take all of it. They took
of the eighty billion, They tookabout sixty, but they used it to
shore up other programs in it.And so a lot of people were screaming,
well they still left twenty billion.They just but I'm like, you
got sixty eighty sixty went away.This This was why some of the stuff

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that was going in. I said, you know, Republicans only control the
House, they don't control the Senateor the President. And to win overwhelmingly
Kevin McCarthy. You may hate theguy, you may say is rhino or
whatever you want to call it,but the fact of the matter is he
started this thing with the White Housesaying we won't negotiate anything, and he
got an argument through a deal.He got a deal that literally has nothing

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that any Republican would vote against byitself. I think this is a signature
piece of legislature and an historic piecethat McCarthy was able to accomplish. What
he did against overwhelming odds. Thisis very strong. And let me let
me also, this is showing ushe's a very great Ladies are really fine.
Well, and let me say something. He said he only got a
one percent cut. He only gota one percent cut. We were gonna

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do a five percent cut, andthat was one of the arguments Belt Goods.
Do you realize that is one percentmore of a cut than any Republican
Congress or any Congress has had sincebefore George W. Bush became president.
So we'll go for the five percentnext five Yeah, it's like and hopefully
have a lot more member, youknow, well, like a congressman on
our side. And maybe that's whathappens. I will also point out that

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you're right for a reason. Fora different reason, Kevin McCarthy has finally
ended the whole argument as to whetheror not you use the debt ceiling to
negotiate. It was like they said, well, bark rom, it was
one off. It was every victorycounts, even little victories, and eventually
you add them all up. Sowe're gonna this is just like, let's
say, the beginning of a greatmovement to finally clean up our budget,

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and the reason I'm saying all ofthis is the fact of the matter is
Kevin McCarthy had to cut a seconddeal, and the second deal was to
get enough Democrats to push it through. Now, overwhelmingly, for all the
talk about the Freedom Caucus, twentynine voted against it. Almost the rest
of the you know, and almostthe entire rest of the Republican Caucus voted
for this deal. What was thesecond deal? Okay, that's I'm getting

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to that, so Achim Jeffers.You know, there's an old saying in
Washington politics, never get in theway of your opponent when they're the process
of destroying themselves. Obviously, theWhite House desperately wants the debt ceiling,
as does Let's be fair, anysane person for those that say, we're
just running a country in debt.You know, if you if the United
States defaults on its debt, theentire world economy falls, collapses, It

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collapses. And then if we wouldbegin to do that, half the nations,
the wealthy nations, and the worldwould all come charging to us to
give us or lend us money.Yeah, it's just it's that it's integrated
with the whole in international world andthe more importantly, the US dollar would
cease to be the international currency.And that's important because we're able to borrow
money and do things because we controlthe currency. We're able to use sanctions

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because we have that. We controlthe dollars, we control them the money.
If we suffer, let's say that'ssome kind of bankruptcy that leads us
in some kind of for us wouldbe kind of a minor depression. It
won't be fun much. Many ofthe nations of the world are going to
be thrown into total abject poverty andgoing to be destroyed. Yeah, so,
and they do not want us togo down. They can't afford us
to go down. But it goeswithout saying that many of these arguments did

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not go anywhere with Bob Good orsome of the members of the Freedom Caucus
who said, to hell with it, you know, let it die and
it won't be so bad. Well, what's interesting about this is Kevin McCarthy
knows he's got to get this through. And frankly, for all the people
that said the Biden one, Bidengot a really late deal. There wasn't
a single progressive who wanted to votefor this thing, because there really was

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nothing in it. The best thatyou could say of it is it could
have been worse. That's all theywere saying. And I know that was
brought up for political reasons. Therebe people out there who are going to
try and they're always protected by itand always trying to save him. It's
just another effort to make it looklike, well, he's a great leader.
There's there's a there's a little bitmore of the story about how that

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extra votes came about. And theway it came about was that if you
noticed, there was also Ran Paulwanted to amend the thing to have a
bigger cut. Tim Kaine, theDemocrat from from Virginia, wanted to amend
it to get rid of the pipeline. There's a whole lot of stuff that
was going on. And an interestingthing now, the two people really negotiated
this deal. Kevin McCarthy did,but he had two congressmen that were his

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tribunes to negotiate it. One wasa guy by the name of Patrick McHenry.
And I was find it interesting,you know, Patrick mckenry, Henry
McHenry, and Henry give me death. Yeah, but not Patrick Henry.
Patrick mckenry but always wears his greatbow ties, and I wear bowties,
so I have a sympathy. Healways looks totally put together, and so
he came out of these meetings lookingtotally put together. Garrett Graves, who

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usually looks really put together, hishair was track. Lee had slept in
three days hold this time was undone. Garret Graves, the baton rouge congressman,
is not like Steve Scalise majority leader. What he is and he's nor
as he holds the whips physician.What he is is the guy that Kevin
McCarthy goes to sense the entire caucus. He has become the Speaker's most powerful

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adjunct. And what's interesting about bothm Patrick McHenry and it's particularly Garret Graves,
is they both started out Unlike mostcongressmen. They both started out as
congressional staffers. And that's important forthis story because they don't look at this
just in electoral terms and sound bitesat home. They came up through the
system, their policy walks. Theyunderstood how to make the system work.

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They're actually professionals. And for thosethat say I hate professional politicians, sometimes
you need people that know where youknow. Quite literally, the bodies are
bared. How things works a systemthere, you can't ignore it. Yeah,
it's unavoidable. Yeah, so youbetter learn how to work it.
Well. Garrett Graves comes into thissituation. They get this deal from Biden.
Everybody's going crazy. The Freedom Caucusis going crazy, AOC and the

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left is going crazy. They're notgoing to support it. But it's not
in the interest of the Democrats tosave the Republicans. So what does he
do. Well, he goes toScullies and Scalies in here counting the people.
So these two Louisianians are the oneswho are trying to deliver the vote.
What are they going to do?They actually called This is the part
of the story a lot of peopledon't know. They called Troy Carter,

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third Congressman from the New Metro NewOrleans area, African American, relatively centrist
Democrat from Ault Jeers and they said, Troy, we need your help.
Now they have Kevin McCarthy has beentalking directly to Hakim Jeffers, and he
may or may not have said there'snothing for us in this bill. But

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I know for a fact somebody inTroy Carter's office did use those terms,
and that's where it comes from.That's the whole conversation. But Carter is
practical. So Carter said, Okay, Kevin, I have several Democrats who
will vote for this thing, butwe have needs. Here's how they got
the fifty Democrats earmarks. Garrett Gravesgot district pork. We just started talking
about a legislature promised. Because thebudget hasn't been written yet, this is

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the budget template. This is themaximum we're going to spend. Now they
write the budget next there are Iwill tell you, if you look at
the fifty one Democrats who voted forthis thing, there is gonna be a
direct contrigation to projects that they've beenseeking for their districts that will be awarded
in the next budget. And itwas negotiated in large part by Troy Carter

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of New Orleans. And will thatbe done by the bureaucracy? Secrets for
so the various congressman and whatnot theirbureaucracy or the bureaucracy, various agencies they're
backing in all. No, no, no, you're looking at the two
massive The average Congression staff is thirtyfive people. I don't mean just the
staff, I mean leaning on thevarious agencies and bureaucracies. No, no,
no, an earmark, and earmarkworks like this an earmark. An

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earmark is the anti bureaucratic point.In some ways, it's the most democratic
thing. But the right hates earmarks, and so does the far left because
this is how it works. Almostall spending goes through a very rigorous reform
process, multiple committees, it goesthrough the bureaucracy. It's like, does
this make sense, does it workfor the whole country and all this,

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But here's the problem with that.It will take years, decades to get
anything done, especially if it's evenremotely big. You can't just say this
an earmark is at the end ofthe process. The speaker walks in and
says, we're adding x, Speakerof the head of appropriations, we're adding
this project for this guy, thisproject for this guy, this project on
top of the budget. And youdon't get to vote on projects one by

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one, you vote in the wholething. At the same time, that's
an earmark, and some people sayit's it makes a mockery of the entire
congressional process. On the other hand, when you can do it just like
what we saw in the Senate inLouisiana. So you see it in the
United States House representatives. You getcongressmen who are like, why would I
vote for a bill that gives menothing as a Democrat. Well, let's

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see, Troy Carter is looking forcoastal restoration money. List he's looking for
some for federal city he's looking forsome other development funds, some federal road
money, but more and importantly,he's looking for money to protect our coast,
which the rest of the country doesn'treally care about. But if you're
in Louisiana, you kind of care. That's considered a pork barrel project.

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It shouldn't. So I'm going toguarantee you're going to see a Troy Carter
project that comes in and says dothis. You're going to see a lot
of these buddy shows. They verycarefully restricted for those that say, well,
Carna didn't vote this way, Igot news for you. They chose
the congressman who are in swing districts. We're voting for a Republican legislator.
A piece of Republican legislation wouldn't hurtthem, they wouldn't get primaried for it.

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And so it was a very calculatedthing. I want to give one
particular young woman, a lady bythe name of Zoe Orwick of New Orleans,
who, by the way, isthe assistant chief of staff of Hakim
Jeffers, some special credit, whohelped negotiate this deal. Who is not
this And I'm sure I'm gonna getkilled by saying that, but Zoe deserves
a credit. She's a graduate ofIsadore Newman's School, you know, so

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wonderful. Yeah. You hear allthese stories about our federal agencies doing monumental
research on the let's say, sexualhabits and sexual choices of the big eyed
uh Menno Darter, and you knowit just these absurd things, and you
hear a lot of it. Christopherto the tuna. Maybe it goes up

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into beans and dolls. Is thatwhere they they get in through the airmark
system? No, no, no, no, um. I'm gonna say
that sometimes when you hear absurd research, they actually it's connected in a lot
of cases to something that's not soabsurd. Like I remember the remember the
whole argument that years ago about TedStevens, the Center from Alaska was paying,
you know, for an airport anda bridge to nowhere, to an

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island that fifty people lived on.The island in question had an airport on
it was the major airport. Theywere building a bridge. The reason they
had fifty people the entire island wasan airport. So sometimes that the details
are what you understood that here abridge. They're talking about that I'm talking
about really absurd projects, and thereare lots of them, and I'm talking

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about that, and I'm not I'mnot playing it down. What I'm saying
is I'm using I used that asan example some of these scientific projects you've
got. I'm sure they were andI've seen absurd projects, but some of
them honestly are linked to something bigger. There's a there's a more fundamental question
you're asking, actually, though high, and it's that how much oversight is
there of these budgetary priorities. AndI'm going to tell you you're gonna be

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surprised that to get something new authorized, there's a huge amount an unbelievable That's
why the airmark system. Here's wherethe flaw is. It's not about the
stupid project that somebody's going to bringup. It's the fact that once something's
in the budget it's almost impossible toget rid of it right right. So

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for example, that the classic exampleof all of that was the fact that
for years, and this was newgang Widge liked to do, but it
was quite right about it. Foryears there was a FED role mandate and
spending to use vacuum tubes for airtraffic and control computers. We're talking into
the nineties, and it was justbecause that was the appropriation that had have

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been appropriated and when they first authorizedthe bill. So sometimes you've got a
situation anyway. Louisiana, we've talkedabout the funding song and how Cameron Henry
is trying to become Senate President becauseyou know, he's trying to appeal to
a Republican corps as opposed to appealto Democrats and Republicans, which is the
way the current Senate President, PageCortez got his role. But one of

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the ways that is going through isa lot of the social legislation we're seeing
that went through Florida has gone throughthe Louisiana legislature. There is, for
example, the Constitutional carry Bill isbefore the legislature. For those that don't
know what that is, it basicallysays concealed carry doesn't require any training,
any background checks. You can justdo it. I have problems with it,
but I yes. The next bill, though, is the opposite,

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and it's called you know, it'soften miscalled that don't say gay bill.
What it properly says is that ifyou have a preferred pronoun and your student,
you a teacher, does not havethe right to call you what you
asked them to call. Now,I'm not going to say who this person

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is, but somebody very close tomy family, a member of my family
as graduating salutatorian from high school,and uses the they thing. And as
I feel about this one kind ofpersonally, but what I feel is the
part of me that you asked mea question about why sometimes I react against
Donald Trump, even above political pointsthat I want to get Biden defeat in

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all this, And you know,part of the reason I joined the Party
of Reagan was that it was theparty of leave me alone, state of
my pocketbook, stat of my life, to leave me alone coalition. Remember
that was a common way of sayingthat high and for so many things.
In finding the culture War, weused to say, as Republicans, we
shouldn't have a federal Department of Education. We should have the school boards and

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even better, the parents decide what'sgoing on. That the more you centralize
rules, the worst schools tend tobe. And what I worry about,
and a lot of this legislation iswe've just become liberals. We've just we're
just we're using the power of governmentto do other things that, you know,
instead of the things we like.And that's the whole idea that don't
say gay. That's confusing to me. It sounds like this is legislation where

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you cannot call homosexuals gay. Soelaborate a little and that explain a little.
It's essentially what it says. That'swhy it's miscalled. You remember I
said it's miscalled. Don't say gay. You're not allowed to use the two
bills, two House bills, onethat says about the preferred pronounces. The
other one says you can't discuss anygender or sexual issues whatsoever in school.
So, for example, you havea reproductive health class and I'm not talking

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about how to use columns until you'relike how babies are born. Technically,
the legislation would outlaw the ability totalk about that because you have to talk
about gender. It's there's the Unknow, that's the laws are smarter than that
legislation. But this is what Floridapassed, and it's this is everybody's up
at arms and this I'm saying,like, I hate to tell you this,
but the average school board deals withthese issues pretty well. I don't

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really see that we have a problem, and frankly, so is the average
parent. They're just men and women. That's our DNA press that you can't
change the DNA, and if peoplewant to be something else, they can
do it on their own, butdon't force it into school. I would
think that's what they're trying to accomplishyou And except is that correct, that's

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I'm sure some of the defenders ofthe bill would say that high but I'm
going to answer to the simple things. So, I mean, it's one
thing to say there's a particular curriculumthat gets in and we can have a
whole argument with the critical race theorycurriculum and have an argument about that,
but that at least says don't teachsomething that's that's controversial. This is kind
of like, how do you tella person they can't be referred to by

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something. Um I saw this greatChris, I can see on the street
in the schoollyard. They can referto one another way they want to formally
in the classroom. I think they'retrying to prevent all this, you know,
LGBT abh d f g h jK, you know, the whole
insane sexual confusion that education is bringinginto our kids. I think they're trying
to cut that out by this thatif if a young woman goes to a

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teacher and says, look, Idon't really identify I'd like you to becall
me. They who's been harmed bythat? I mean, seriously, that's
what the bill's about. Just seeit as a manipulation technique. And I
think if you're a man, you'rea man. If you want to act
like a woman, that's your business. Go play like you're a woman.
Fine, that's on you, Butdon't force others to claim that you are

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which you are not. You arenot a woman, no matter how much
you wish to be a woman.Your DNA proves to be on the shadow
of DOT. You are a man. I o'kay, how much you don't
like being a man, you're stilla man. Yeah, that's you.
Know biology. Now we're reality.Now we're getting into it. We're getting
now, we're getting into a skitfor the life of Brian. All I'm
saying is, why tell a teacherthat what they have to not have to
say or a student? I mean, the liberals are already doing that,

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So we are doing that. They'reforcing teachers and children to use all this
crazy talk about sex. They're forcingthem to do it. What I'm going
to say is, don't do it. They're evil and they they're So we
end with we end with what Iwas warning for. Conservatives used to say,
it's not the role of government totell teachers or schools what to do.

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It's the role of the school boardsand the parents. And now we're
just passing built for the legislature todo exactly that. Why have we become
liberal? School boards and parents havebeen driven from the you know, the
parents show up at a meeting andthey get arrested. Maybe that's why.
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make a difference by texting to sevenseven nine four eight. Well, folks,
welcome back to the show, andyou are listening to the Founders show
of the voice of the Founding Fathers, your finding fathers. And it is
now time for us to go intoour little history lesson where we talk about
the biblical foundations of our country,our Judeo Christian jurisprudence. And this is

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none other than Chaplinheim McHenry. You'reSpengary by all the Republic. And today
we want to talk about President JamesMadison. He was one of the greatest
presidents we had. He's a fellowwho wrote the US Constitution. He was
mentored by Thomas Jefferson. He wasa young young man during the American Revolution,
served in the militia and in thelegislature was a great patriot. And

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this is what happened under one ofthe many things. This is when you
know we fought the bar of eighteentwelve Battle of Nuance, saved America.
Under Madison, we had the UScapital burned down. It was a hard
time for us, but we survivedit. And Madison knew the real cause
of our survival, the real sourceof it. And one of the things
he did was he signed a billthat economically supported the Bible Society of Philadelphia

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and its goal for mass Bible distribution. During his administration, they also approved
a relief a relief bill for theBaltimore and Massachusetts Bible Societies. Folks.
I think these founding fathers wanted tomake sure we kept God and government kept
God in our culture and our society. And this is what James Madison said.
He said, we have all beenencouraged to feel in the guardianship and

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guidance of that almighty being whose powerregulates the destiny of nations, whose blessings
have been so conspiculously dispensed to thisrising republic. And that again was President
James Madison. Folks, what aboutyou? Has God's blessings been conspicuously poured
out upon you. Well, actually, whether you know it or not,
they have because you know, theBible says God loves you with an everlasting

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love. You're the most important personto God, as if you're the only
person that ever lived, Laury.That's how God sees it. You are
made in his image. You arehighly important to your creator. And he
knew that you had problems. Weall have problems, folks. Come on,
we're human, we fail, wesin. He knew that these problems
would keep us away from him becausehe's perfect and he can't have imperfection around

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him. He has to have perfectlove, perfect everything, because that's what
he is. So he realized hehad to fix our problems. He knew
we would never be able to fixit. We'd never be good enough,
more enough, religious enough, whollyenough, rich enough, charming enough,
or whatever thing we have going forus. We would never be good enough.
So they said, no problem,Gods, I'm gonna do it for
you. And he did that.When God became a man. That man's

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name is the Lord Jesus Christ.He's God, the Son, perfect God
and perfect man. All the wayGod and all the way Man. He
came here two thousand years ago totake care of our sin and our death
problem, our hell problem, ifyou will. And he did that when
he died on the cross for allof our sins, folks, I mean
all of your sins from the dayyou were born and the day you die,

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your tiny isee, the greatest sinswere all watched away with the precious
blood of the Lord Jesus Christ.First problem fixed, That was our sin
problem. Next problem death. Deathmeans that you're completely cut off from God
forever. Death is as if youbasically get the role or assume the position
of a zombie, where you haveexistence, you have a conscience, you

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have feelings, you have a memory, but you don't have life. You're
the walking dead, if you will, and you wander around a burning hell
forever in this state of extreme depressionand extreme zombieism, if you will.
I mean, folks, that doesntsound like a lot of fun, doesn't.
No. I can't think of anymore horrible way to live the rest

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of your life, to actually toexist for the rest of your life because
you have no life. So,folks, God came up with a way
to fix it when he rose fromthe dead. He won for you his
precious free gift of resurrection, everlastinglife, which trumps that eternal death of
hell. Folks, you need Jesus. He died for your sins and rose

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from the dead. How do youget him? Well, the Bible makes
it very clear. The Bible says, we've been saved by grace. That
means a free gift. We've beensaved by grace through faith. That's how
you take it. You believe it'strue for you. We've been saved by
grades through faith. And even thatis not of ourselves. It is a
gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast. So
what you gotta do, folks,is first you gotta believe you can't save

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yourself. That is called repentance,when you come to that place in your
life where you know that no matterhow good you are, how hard you
try, you're never gonna be ableto help God out. Not even even
a little teeny tiny thing can helpJesus out on the cross or his resurrection
from the dead. You're completely hopelessand help us Without him, you offer
him nothing but sin and misery anddeath. That's all you can bring to

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God. He says, Okay,guys, bring it I've already got it,
and I've already fixed it. Sowhat's your step. Believe you can't
save yourself. That's repentance. Nowyou're free to let him do it all.
You're free to put faith alone inChrist alone, to believe that only
He died for all your sins.He did the only work that could be
done to save you, and herose from the dead to win for you
his precious free gift of resurrection,everlasting life. If you've never done that

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before, please folks, do itnow. Don't wait till it's too late.
Believe that Jesus really did die forall your sins, was buried and
rose from the dead. And whenyou do that, you're going to heaven.
You're guaranteed everlasting life. The Biblesays, you can know that,
you know that, you know haveeverlasting life. You can know it,
folks, for sure, because youput childlike faith in Christ and Christ alone.

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You didn't trust anything else. Youdidn't trust yourself, you didn't trust
your religion. There's going to beno denominations in heaven, folks, and
your religion isn't going to get youinto heaven. I'm sorry, but it's
not the only thing to get youin is your childlike faith, and it
first starts with repentance, believing youcan't save yourself. Jesus kept saying,
repent and believe. Repent and believe. Believe you can't save you, so
you can turn from sins all daylong. That's not going to get you

(50:28):
into heaven. That's your righteousness,which God can't use because he says your
righteousness is as filthy rags. It'sjust not good enough for God. So
give up on it. Let goof all this so you can let God
have his way with you and saveyou from my burning hell and guarantee you
having because you really did put faithalone in Christ alone, with childlike faith,
you believe that Jesus died for allyour sins and rose in the dead.

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Well, folks, it's not timefor us to go into our watchman
on the wall. We just tooka brief moment to remind you of the
fact that Jesus is coming back soon. You know, he said, when
you see all these things happening,it's in Matthew twenty four And Luke,
he said, you see all thesethings happening, know that I'm at the
door. No what all things,and he said they have to be happening.
Coincidentally, they all have to behappening at the same time. That

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means Israel has to be back inthe land. That means all the things
that are lining up for the greatwars that seemed to be on the horizon
right now, they're all lining upright now. The fact that all the
nations of the world are turning onIsrael and turning on the Church right now
greatest persecution church has ever known asright now, by far, it's it's
superior to all nineteen centuries before,by the way, So folks, that's

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just a couple of little signs arepestilences. We just got over COVID.
The rise of rampant sexual immorality.Jesus said it would be as in the
days of Sodom and Gomorrah. Andwe know what that was, folks.
It was just as as bad andevil and dark as it could ever be.
But you know, Jesus said thatthese days are going to be even

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worse. And look at what's goingon with all that, with all the
sex it's not trying to force themselveson us, trying to force their ways
in us, even our children andif the adult parents stand up against it,
they get arrested and they get taggedby the FBI as terrorists. Wonderful
parents and grandparents who are trying toprotect their children from all this sexual perversion

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are not being labeled as terrorists.They are forcing this on us. And
the key to Sono mccamorris. Thehomosexuals saw the righteous Lot with his righteous
family and the angels, and theywanted them. They wanted that fresh meat.
So they went to their house,and we're trying to bust into the
house, and God blinded them allso they couldn't succeed in this terrible work
of sexual perversion. And then finallygot a lot out of there and he

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was saved. And then of courseBurne sought him the more to the ground.
And that's what's coming in folks.That kind of judgment is coming on
this earth. Where are we goingto go to hide? How are we
going to escape all this? Isthere a bunker out there? Is there
a safe house? Yes, thereis the name of that pump bunker is
the Lord Jesus Christ. You goto him right now and let him take
you in as as your protector,as your bunker and your folks. It's

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better than any concrete bunker you findin this earth. Go to Jesus right
now and trust him with all ofyour heart. That means you're not trusting
anything else, only in him.Folks, have you never done this before?
To do it now. Don't waittill it's too late. And like
the Bible says, now today isa day of salvation. Well it's time
for us to go. As weclose with a mind Saint Martin singing a
krill goodbye and God bless all outthere. Does this have to be the

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end of the night? Do Ilove you? In the paymal land,
I can see acrossion stars. Kids, we can posy. It's the song time.