June 17, 2025 • 54 mins
The Founders Show comes to you live from the Thousand Islands on the Canadian-US border, from the deck of the famed Canadian Empress riverboat.
We’ve been sailing down the St. Lawrence Seaway, and that triggered our kick off topic for this week’s show. The U.S. / Canadian relationship has been in the news quite a bit over the last year. North of the border, voters have resented the “51st state” comments, so much so that Canada re-elected a previously unpopular Liberal government that was willing to stand up to Donald Trump.
However, despite being a different country, Canada is intrinsically linked with the United States – nowhere more so than the thousand islands win you could be 50 feet away by boat to cross the border. We explore the difficulties those people have putting up with a huge amount of bureaucratic red tape just to go back-and-forth, and the relationship between the United States and Canada. Why don’t we have free movement of population? Why isn’t our relationship even closer when we are truly cousins in close proximity?
We then turn to the Louisiana legislature, and a Bill to allow Louisianians to sue doctors who send abortion pills across state lines. This puts Gov. Jeff Landry, if he signs, in direct conflict with President Donald Trump. Trump thinks 15 weeks are an acceptable margin or gray area to allow abortion to be legal. Hy and Christopher discuss where the gray area lies.
We’ve been sailing down the St. Lawrence Seaway, and that triggered our kick off topic for this week’s show. The U.S. / Canadian relationship has been in the news quite a bit over the last year. North of the border, voters have resented the “51st state” comments, so much so that Canada re-elected a previously unpopular Liberal government that was willing to stand up to Donald Trump.
However, despite being a different country, Canada is intrinsically linked with the United States – nowhere more so than the thousand islands win you could be 50 feet away by boat to cross the border. We explore the difficulties those people have putting up with a huge amount of bureaucratic red tape just to go back-and-forth, and the relationship between the United States and Canada. Why don’t we have free movement of population? Why isn’t our relationship even closer when we are truly cousins in close proximity?
We then turn to the Louisiana legislature, and a Bill to allow Louisianians to sue doctors who send abortion pills across state lines. This puts Gov. Jeff Landry, if he signs, in direct conflict with President Donald Trump. Trump thinks 15 weeks are an acceptable margin or gray area to allow abortion to be legal. Hy and Christopher discuss where the gray area lies.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Battles, the politicians, the press, the digitators and magicians choose
to see the money they did, don't there's nothing to
fill the holes while then are filling their pockets fid holes,
the politicians bouncing down the road. Everybody's wish for no moment,
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corruption and dysfunctional. It's gonna take me, divide it a vention.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
And God bless all out there. You are now listening
to the founders. So the voice of the founding fathers,
your founding fathers, coming to you deep within the bowels
of those mystic and cryptic alligator swamps of the Big Easy,
that old Crescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana, and high up
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on top of that old Liberty cypress tree draped in
Spanish moss, way out on the Eagles Branch, this is
none other then your spend Gary Baby all the Republic Chaplain.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Hi mcgnry, who.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
With Christopher Tibney Roving a reporter, resident, radical, moderate associate
editor of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at Louisiana Weekly dot net.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
And Hi, and we've got a lot to talk about today.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
We're going to, of course, look at the aftermath of
the Louisiana legislative session, a few major changes, including one
on social policy, specifically abortion policy, that would put them
at odds with r f K juniors. They put Louisiana
at odds and Louisiana doctors at odds with r f
K juniors, Health and Human Services Department, and President Donald Trump.
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And it's done by pro life legislators. We'll talk about
this into Republican feud a little later in the show.
We also have several other topics going on. We're going
to talk a little bit about upcoming marriage races and
candidates that are looking and particularly a new candidate that
may be looking in the district eBrace next week's show
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and how that's going to play out. But before we
get in any of that, I want to tell you
where I've been this last week, and that's been on
the Canadian Empress cruise boat going down the Saint Lawrence Seaway,
going through the thousand Islands that separate it's actually of
the thousand islands that separate Canada and the United States.
What I was about to say, it's actually not a
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thousand islands. It's eighteen hundred and sixty four. There are
eighteen hundred and sixty four Islands in the Thousand Islands
for those that are only familiar with it because of
the dressing. One Thousand Island dressing was created a blunt
castle on Millionaire's Row on the Canadian side in the
Thousand Islands. It was for mister Blount and his wife
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as a special treat of ingredients that are created on
Thousand Islands.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
But it's given me a.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Perspective because this is the area of Canada that was
traditionally comprised of United Empire loyalists.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
It's where the loyalists went after the American Revolution.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
And as I've been in Canada, there's been a huge
debate in the Canadian House of Commons, Canadian Parliament, Ottawa
about the interactions with the United States, and particularly how
it's affecting their economy. You might have noticed that home
costs had been shooting up way above even the previous
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rate of inflation, and that has to do with a
tariff that Donald Trump put on and not that Joe
Biden was all that much better with this, but it's
called softwoods. It's the forest products tariff. So most of
our wood comes from Canada and we've put on a
pretty significant tariff not ten percent, but significantly higher, actually
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between twenty five and thirty percent of wood products.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
And it's making building houses more expensive.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
It's also crippling parts of the Canadian economy. What's interesting
about this tariff is Donald Trump, if you remember reading,
negotiated an after agreement for the USMCA, and it created
an arbitration panel. And the arbitration panel has ruled four
times that this was an unjustified tariff, and that you
know it was that there were no bad trade eras
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trade practices that will make this tariff worth wall and
American consumers, particularly those trying to buy a house or
anything that's made out of wood, have been feeling furniture
and all this have been feeling the impact. But it
made me think about the bigger perspective of Canada in
this whole fifty first state argument.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Well, let's put something aside for a second.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
If Canada really were to join the United States, it
would not be fifty one in the fifty first state.
It would comprise their ten Canadian provinces. You'd put ten
states in maybe two maybe three in a good year,
would vote Republican, Alberta, probably Manitoban, Saskatchewan, the rest would
consist certainly vote democratic. So by Canada joining the United States,
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you're pretty much creating a democratic a permanent Democratic electoral
vote majority. She always thought this whole argument was kind
of absurd. But the idea that Canada is integrated with
the United States shouldn't be so extraordinary.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Nor should we be.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Mad at them for wanting to maintain their independence. So
let's explare something for a second. You know, when you
think of a lot about this show about the Battle
of New Orleans, the British forces that try to take
over New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
As we've explained to you many times.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Their goal was to take over Louisiana, the entire Louisiana
purchase that was not recognized by any nation. Well, the
United States had a goal in that war that was
to take over Canada. Canada was attacked multiple times. I
went to four different battlefields, from Plattsburgh to Elizabethtown, all
the way up to Mountquica and some of the other
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in Massapequa. Famous battles that came out in the War
of eighteen twelve.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Why is the White House white?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Well, an American task force burned the Canadian provincial capital
then called York, now called Toronto, and the British responded
by burning the White House down and we didn't have
the money of rebuilds whitewashed it. But what I kept
looking when you go through the Canadian what's called originally
Upper Canada.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Today it's Ontario.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
The area along the Saint Lawrence River is the most
loyalist area of Britain in the world. And why do
I say of Britain because even today you go through
that area, go through Norst of Canada, you'll see a
maple leaf. In a few areas, you may see the
Canadian red ensign. This is the Canadian flag that actually
has the Union flag on the corner the way the
Australians and.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
New Zealanders do.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But you go through this area through Brockville and the
surrounding communities, and you see the British Union jack the
Union flag flying everywhere. This has always been true. This
is an area that goes its identity and its founding
to people who refuse to give up the crown. Let
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us remember that if will want people to respect our revolution,
we have to respect those that had a counter revolution.
They just didn't flee the revolution. They fought us during
the War of eighteen twelve, as we try to take
over Canada repeatedly, and it was a pretty brutal battle,
a series of battles. Most of the soldiers across the
border were not being very attentive to property or human.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Lives such as war.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
But the people in the Maritimes themselves also fought a
civil war in eighteen thirty seven eighteen thirty eight. It's
called the Upper Canada Rebellion, where a group of Americans
got together with a couple of discrimal Canadians and tried
to launch a revolution to get.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Canada to become the fifty first state.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
This actually happened, and it was summarily rejected. The Canadians
fought to a person to remain under the crown, and
very loyally, if you might have noticed, Prince King Charles
came and spoke and opened the Canadian Parliament, and Canadian
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newspapers had an overwhelming state of loyalism to their king
because Charles Windsor's other.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Title, one of his other titles, is King of Canada.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
And the Canadians themselves are a proud and patriotic and
independent people, and their revolution was a counter revolution. It
is wonder made of loyalty. I might remind people that,
you know, why would do none dare call it treason?
Because if you succeed, none dare call it treason. But
what was the American Revolution treason? My ancestors fought it proudly,
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both the Revolution of seventeen sixty eighth and the American
Revolution seven years later, but it was in the conventional
version trees and against you know, you're sworn oath against
the crown. I think we're respected today because we stood
up for liberty. It's another way of looking at the
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same argument. But the Canadians stood up for liberty too,
the liberty to choose to remain under that ground and
form their own nation under that crown. And so that's
why it is kind of fundamentally disrespectful that when we
come out and say Canada should be the fifty first state,
it's all fun and games, But to the Canadians, it's
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spitting on them. It's spitting on their revolution. And I
look at some of the absurdities that the United States.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Has put on. If you're in the Thousand Islands.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
The thing that's interesting, along the Saint Lawrence, this is
one of the most heavily trafficked shipping ways in the world,
from the Atlantic, through the St. Law to the Gulf
of St. Lawrence, to Lake Saint Lawrence, all the way
through the river systems to the Great Lakes, the Welling Canal,
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all of these areas, when you look at them, the
distance between the United States in Canada is sometimes a
matter of that.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Eve been a tenth of a mile.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
And it used to be people would go back and
forth with more problem. And I'm talking on boats because
of the Thousand Islands, you get eighteen hundred and sixty
four islands.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
They're the only way.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
To get between them are boats, and every one of
them seems to have a house on it.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
It's a beautiful area.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
So I was asking some people in the last town
I went to the Thousand Island Boat Museum.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
I said, what do you do if you're going just
on a regular boat and it's just like right over there,
how do.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
You And she said, well, do you have to go
to a border station? She said, there's a telephone number
you call. And so when you're coming from the United
States to Canada, it's fine, you call the tele phone number.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
It's not a big deal.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Canadians don't care but when you go back to the
United States, you have to go to an actual station
on your boat, even if the two properties.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Sometimes these islands high I'm.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Not exaggerating when I say this are no more than
fifty yards away, and you have to go several miles,
sometimes dozens of miles down to be able to go
from your home to your work. And it made me
think the number of times I've crossed this border, the
number of commerce we have with Canada, and say the
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one thing Trump doesn't want to say, and nobody's really saying,
we ought to have free movement of population with the Canadians.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
You don't have to make Canada.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
The fifty first state or the fifty first through sixtieth state,
but we should have a border with them. Fentanyl has
brought up as an issue. More fentanyl comes from the
United States that has ever come out of Canada by
a factor of a thousand. It's not the Canadians, our
long standing and our long standing friend, that we're making.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Into an enemy that we should be worried about.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
It is ourselves as to why are we targeting our
our our blood. Literally New Orleans is founded from Montreal,
We're descended from Canadians.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Why do we spend our.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Time acting like Canada is something alien? And why is
the Trump administration? Why are we letting ourselves be pulled
into this? Economically, it doesn't make sense. The tariffs in
Canada are affecting every industry, but particularly the softwood tariffs
are driving up our home costs, They're driving up everything.
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This policy is being bad and the latest release of
t U of the inflation rate, that we've exceeded the
inflation rate, shows that tariffs really are having an impact
on people's basic needs. Buy a house by furniture, by
the most basic elements of life.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Your thoughts, why yes, oh yes, Christopher, my mind is
variably pregnant with thoughts right now. Very interesting insights into Canada,
and thank you for it. Uh, I can really see
a lot about what you're saying, but of course not
everything as always, But thank you Christopher. What a remarkable
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history lesson and tour of Canada. You know, I've always
liked the Canadian people.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
They're very nice, you know, they're very polite, very proper.
They once had a movie about that. It's really it
was hilarious. It's a comedy about how people in like
somewhere in the Northern States where they border in Canada.
They were right near the border, and they got some
kind of way. They thought Canada was going to invade America.
So they put together militia unit and invaded Canada. And
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the Canadians was so polite to these these gruff.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Ob noxious Americans.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Hilarious movie anyway, But the Canadians are really a fine people,
and it's a great country, and I'm glad they're to
the north of us. But Christopher, I understand some of
the biggest and the largest amount of illegal alien entries
into America's coming through Canada. The Canadian boarder is not
well watched at all on both sides. So we need
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to get those old MONTI remember the Mounties. I love
the mountis Man, I love them. And we have a
famous comedian American meeting whose father was a Mountie. He's
the one who owns the the Blues you know cafe
and Blues Brother's Cafe or whatever it's called. And the
tariffs that we have with Canada right now, you know,
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we we've really put ourselves behind the eight ball and
all this tariff stuff where all around the world after
World War Two, all the nations were hurting so badly.
So what America do. We said, we're gonna help you out.
We're gonna give you all kinds of tax I mean,
excuse me, trade advantages, and you can tariff us all
over the place, but we're not going to tear off you.
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So they established an imbalance of tariffs, which is okay
in the beginning because it helped all these countries come back,
and I'm glad we did that, but you know, it's
been eighty years now they're back. They've long since been back,
and we need to even the score. So it's time
for us to come up with tariffs that will even
the score. And that's all Trump is doing. And by
the way, Christopher, I've been hearing a lot of top
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level economists saying that this is fantastic. And remember he's
dropped the the inflation rate has dropped significantly during the
Biden years. Yeah, the housing was skyrocketing, everything was skyrocketing.
It's all coming down now. So you know, as far
as the lumber industry goes, we need to even that up.
We don't need to get all our lumber just from Canada.
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We got so much lumber down here. When do our
lumber people get to make some profits off of our
timber industry? You know what's wrong with that? Do we
have to give it all to Canada? I mean, they're
big boys.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
They can handle it.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
They can find other markets for the time. They don't
have to sell it all just to us. So it's
time to even things up. And that's what I think
Trump is doing, and I think it's doing a tremendous
job of it. Our economy is doing better than it's
done in a long time. Unemployment's way down. Everything's going
great right now, even though there's some hiccups. Of course,
Look when you have to do this kind of a job.
After the Biden administration, the Democrat Party had crashed America
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as badly as they did, bringing millions and millions of
legals in, including all the drugs, all the sex driver,
all the evil they brought in this country. And now
Trump's got to clean it all up. It's a mess.
We got the riots.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
You know, it's like whenever the Democrats don't get their way,
they're like spoiled children. They have temper tantrums and they
hurt people. They cause extreme damage we're watching that right
now around the country, and I hope it doesn't explode
into what happened in twenty twenty, where over five hundred
and seventy locations were hit by Democrat insurrectionist mobs. They
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destroyed over billions of dollars worth of property, they looted
hundreds of millions of dollars of chattel property. Understand, they
killed fifty cops, put two thousand in the hospital, and
I don't know how many other people were killed and raped.
It was a very bad time, and they're threatening to
do it again.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
This is criminal. But you know, Trump's not gonna let
him get away with this time.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
He's really coming after him, thank God for that, and
he's got an extremely strong team of law enforcement people.
The Democrats are really up against it now if they
think they're going to and we see what he's already done.
The Los Angeles already start to calm it all down there,
even though the Democratic leadership over there once again had
the cops stand down once again, supported the rioters, the murderers,
the thieves, the illegals, the illegal aliens. Anyway, that's I'm
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getting off topic here, But as far as the King
goes of the British Empire and folks, people don't realize.
When I was six years old, I'll never forget the
Queen Elizabeth was coronated, and I'll never forget from some
good friends of mine, they were really into all this
and they would tell them. I was learning all about
you know, the king of the British Empire.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Are a king.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I found that the king was just a figurehead that
the crown, and that the empire was pretty much over with.
And that's not true. In this race and coronation, a
lot came out that I didn't know about. The British
Empire is still there. It's over one billion people, folks.
That's pretty big. That's huge. That makes it as big
as all the China and India. Uh and it's and
and the king himself is one of the richest men
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in the world. Richest people the crowd, whoever it is,
with the king or queen, they inherit the wealth. He's
worth over a trillion dollars he owns, he owns any
he owns, like some enormous amount of property just in
England itself, billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars,
of property in England. That's not counting the whole rest
of the Empire. And yeah, Canada isn't take note, Canada
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is part of that. So I don't have a whole
lot of confidence in this king. I don't think he's
such a good guy. And time doesn't allow us to
go into all that. But we've all heard the stories,
So I'm sorry the Canadians are so loyal to such
an unpleasant fellow. Let's say, who thinks that we need
to reduce the world's population down to ten percent of
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what it is today. That's a sick thing, folks, that
is sick to think to save the world, he's got
to kill ninety percent of the world.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
How are they going to do that? Think about it.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Agenda twenty thirty tells you all about you an Agenda
twenty thirty, and the Club of Rome has all the
details on how they're going to do that. It's not
nice anyway, the UH. As far as America finding its independence,
you know, and for the July we're coming up on that.
As far as America literally seceding from the British Empire,
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because we did secede, and we did it according to law.
Now people what do you mean laala? They called it
natural law, which had become a very powerful concept at
that time in Europe in the Western world. And if
it wasn't natural law, then they called it the laws
of Nature's God. So you see that's in the decoration Dependence.
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It says they're doing what they're doing by the because
of nature, by the laws of nature, or by the
laws of Nature's God. The laws of Nature's God is
the Holy Bible. That was the theological term because in
the Bible, the scripture says, if you don't have a Bible,
you can find me in nature. You can see me
in the heavenlies. You don't have to have a Bible
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to find me. God's very clear about that. He wouldn't
leave people out all around the world that don't have Bibles. No,
he loves everybody, so he says, if you can't find
me in the Bible, you can find me in nature
natural law. And according to natural law, when the leadership
becomes so corrupt that you just can't follow it anymore,
and that's even.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Taught to the church.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
The church is taught to secede from wicked leadership. Jeeves
said to be wills and cleves sheep's clothing, not sparing
the flock, and they'd be getting in charge of things.
And he said, so when that happens, we are to
withdraw from that evil leadership.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
That's what we did. In America. We worked very hard
to save the union with Mother England. We really did.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Ben Franklin worked himself to death in England for about
ten years trying to save men defences, so to speak,
and save us from seceding from the from the British Empire.
He did so much that in America and Boston, and
he was being called a trader's you know he's from
He lived in Philadelphia. He's being called a trader in Philadelphia.
He worked so hard to try to save the union
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with the British Empire, but when it just got too far,
he went ahead and threw in his hat with the
secessionists in Philadelphia and voted for the Decoration of Independence
to secede from the British Empire. So there's nothing wrong
about that, Christopher. That was a good thing. I think
you have that wrong. It indicated perhaps we were guilty
of trees, and I don't think so. As far as
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our ancestors go. You're right, Montreal, a religious freedom city
in Canada, by the way, came down the river and
created New Orleans, and I have ancestry us from there.
They got off the boat literally would be in Villainebberville.
And then I have ancests from the other side, the
other part of Canada, Nova, Scotia, Godah, the Acadians, the
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Cajuns that came down here have ancestors from them also,
that's the other part of Canada and America. And of
course the Cagi has become a very popular group in America,
Cajun music, cage and food. Anyway, folks' those are my
thoughts from Canada. I think you brought up some really
good things here, and I wish we would establish I
like the idea of some kind of connectivity with Canada
where we have the freedom to go back and forth
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and almost like it's part of that we're part of
one big country, but yet we still have our separate
parliaments and separate ways of doing things. I hope maybe
they'll come up with that. That's a great idea, chrispher
I like that, so maybe that'll happen. And and then well,
let's say, thought about Canada. The first unit I belonged
to twelve Special Forces Group in the Army US Army
Special Forces better known as Green Berets. My first unit,
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first time I ever wore green beret was in that unit.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
It was up in.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Chicago and we would just our heritage. Was the first
special Forces brigade, I think it was. It was a
commando unit, a joint unit, actually a coalition unit of
Canadian and American forces, and we were trained to do
great damage to the enemy, to the primarily to the Germans.
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We were mainly in Europe. We were known as devils
and baggy pants. And if you saw the movie in
Gloria's Bastards, it's the story of that unit.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Now that's an exaggerated story.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
We didn't do all that stuff, but we did things
like that, and the Germans were terrified of us. They
would when they were bivouacking on the combat line and.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
The troops would wake up.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
The German troops they'd looked to the right and the
left and people next to them and had their throats
cut by us. It terrified the Germans and that was
one of the most powerful psyop operations in that war.
And I belonged to that unit. Twelve Special Forces Group.
Great unit. They've retired it since it's been not joined
to the twentieth Group. Also ended up in the twenty
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Special Forces Group. Well, folks, Christopher, I know you've got
some more exciting stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Fos K. Wait here, what you can tell us? So
what's it all about happening down here? You know, like our.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
State Louisiana, the legislation. What is going on with this state? Christopher?
You're really good at figuring it all out, So tell
us what's going on? Thank you, Christopher.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
I think we should turn our attention to the Louisiana
legislature and we would be going through the aftermath of
the legislative session over the next couple of weeks. The
governor's major priority, to lower the income tax rate, as
we've discussed in previous.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Programs, failed miserably. He managed to get the.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Legislation to pass it and then to unpass it when
they realized they don't know how to.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Pay for it.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Some very negative things happened out of this legislative session.
The end of the live performance tax credits. There was
an effort to expand school choice. The governor wanted it
to be ubiquitous, Senate President Cameron Henry limited it to
a moderate increase because of the budgetary impact, but school
choice advocates were pleased. There is an increase in the
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number of kids who will be able to access the
school choice program. They're not those making less than eighty
thousand dollars, which was the governor's original intention. Other things happened,
but what have been most fascinated about was a bill
that passed with pretty much overwhelming support, at least in
the Republican side, And what it does is allows individuals
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to sue doctors who send the abortion pill across state lines. Now,
I'm not a purist at all.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
In fact, like yu Hi, I'm fundamentally.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Pro life in my heart and my religious faith.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
To believe life begins a conception.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
I've always, for example, believed that life should be protected
from conception to natural death. It's made me a deep
skeptic on the death penalty. I how people bring up
the doctrine of innocent versus guilty blood. I'm looking at
it from a much more non spiritual perspective. It's never
a good idea for governments to take lives. Having said that,
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I'm enough of a pragmatist or.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
A hypocrite, depending upon how you folks want to label
me to say that eliminating.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
The death penalty in every single case is not realistic
in a society, there are situations of crime so grgeous
that that having someone with the possibility of release does
not fulfill a societal need.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
The principle is I don't want it.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
The pragmatic is someone who has killed a child committed treason.
We can go through specific things. The death penalty may
be the only way to deal with it, as you
know as one person, or is it should be rare
but legal. Well, speaking of rare and legal, you and
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I have sparred on where is the point of argument
on the creation of a human life? Forgive me for
putting words in your mouth high I want. By the
way I've understood your explanation of this in the past
has been you believe life starts a conception as to I,
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but you're willing to entertain that there's an argument in
the first six weeks before there a baby has a
heartbeat as to whether it's a baby something that is
to have a heartbeat. There's an argument and therefore can
be legal grounds. I take that a step further. My
viewpoint has been that it's brainwave activity, that the frontal lobe,
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the frontal cortex, the magu lambaggata, and the other areas
of the brain do not develop until the fifteenth almost
sixteenth week, and when a baby doesn't have is brainwave activity. Therefore,
a fetus is not alive anymore than a person who's
brain dead in a hospital on life support machines is alive.
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You can turn off the life support machines and not
be killing that person. You're not guilty of murder because
they don't have a brainwave activity. Doesn't make me comfortable Personally,
I wouldn't do it, but I think there's a gray
area for legality. You and I can argue this issue
back and forth. High what you can't argue is the
fact that President Trump agrees with me, not with you.
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He said it time and time again that fifteen weeks
should be allowed. He went so far as to support
the original bill, the original vote in Florida to allow
fifteen weeks. He has very openly said he supports the
abortion bill pill, which does abortions only up to fifteen weeks,
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being sent across state lines and more particularly his Secretary
of Health and Human Services, Robert F.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Kennedy Junior, also does Now.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Of course, Bobby Kennedy got a lot of news this
week he fired the entire panel of CDC vaccine experts.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
We can argue this.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
It was the red line that Bill Cassidy said he
should never pass, and Cassidy is now having to defend
this if he goes into it. But I want to
address that in a future show, not ignoring that it happened.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
I'm what no one is bringing up is the fact
that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. While not using the power
of Health and Human.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Services to try to keep abortion legal after fifteen weeks
anyway where it leaves out to the states, that's what
the president wants, that's what he wants. Does believe doctors
have the right to prescribe the drugs and use the
postal system to get it. A group of Louisiana lawmakers
are trying to create the ability to sue doctors in
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Louisiana state courts from other states where they are protected
under the law.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
To be able to send this out.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
I mean literally, in states like New York, the laws
protects them and shields them from all litigation. What makes
this interesting is Trump has pled absolutely begged legislatures to
not do this because he knows that this is the weakness.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Political weakness, but also.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
An ideological weakness in the Republican Party. There were quite
a few women who voted for pro choice positions in Florida,
for example. Then turn around vyever Donald Trump in the
same election. Because where the American people are on the
abortion issue is essentially they want it to be safe
and rare. They want it for the first fifteen weeks,
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and after that they don't.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Really want it.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
It's a little close to it fanticide. Neither side supports that.
Of the pro life purists do not support that. The
pro choice purists do not. The pro chose purists are
ready to abort a baby and some wad's breathing, you know,
into the third trimester when very few people would defend it,
but they defend it as a woman's choice when it
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is pretty clearly in fantaside. But this is what I
find interesting. Trump has hit the pulse of the American people.
There are times I don't like Trump, I'm the first
one to admit it, but he's kind of got the
balance on this perfectly to where the Republicans seem like
the reasonable party, and when allegy stature tries to create
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a series of lawsuits that are unconstitutional. You cannot sue
someone for legal act in another state that was decided
by Maulberry versus Madison. This has been one of the
fundamental points of US jerisprudence. So we go through all
this exercise so if they ever come into Louisiana, they
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can be hit with all of these penalties over something
that quite literally is legal nationally and supported by the
Republican president and his Secretary of Health of Human Services.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
That fundamentally is not just stupid politics. It's wrong.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Your thoughts, yes, Christopher, I have thoughts. Thoughts.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
In fact, again my mind is veritably pregnant with thoughts
and no pun intended considering the topic. I have my
own strong beliefs about pro life and all that, and
I started way back at LSU before it was even
law on this, before to the Roe versus Wade. I
debated it, I won the debate student council, and it
turned the tithe everybody, the radicals were there screaming how
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it looked like it was gonna go you know, a
pro abortion, and God gave me the words of wisdom
what I needed and it turned the tide.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
It's amazing experience.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I was just a freshman at LSU anyway, on the
student government Association, I represented the Greeks.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
I was a deek, if you can imagine that. Anyway, So.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
The UH I personally believe, according to the scripture, according
to the word of God, conception is the beginning of
human life. You have a human being there, it's human DNA,
and you have a living cell. It's not a dead cell,
it's a living cell. And it becomes two cells you know,
as I go and eventually becomes an embryo, that it
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becomes a fetus.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
H But I believe it. Life starts there. And they've
they've already seen.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
It now it's been photographed and whatnot with all the
great new modern technology that when the sperm hits the cell,
the female sell egg, there's literally a burst of light
right at that moment, and scientists can't explain, they don't
know what's causing that. It's human life. God is beginning
in another life right there now. If you don't want
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to buy that, that's fine. So you know, realizing the
politics of the whole thing, and you got to play politics.
I believe that. Then I planted and went to six weeks,
because it's six weeks. You have brain waves and you
have a heartbeat. Chris says it's fifteen months, but actually
I think you have the first brain waves. That's six weeks.
And so if we keep it to that, there'll be
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no abortions because women don't know that they have they're
pregnant until about two months into it, and then it's
too late. So that would solve the problem right there.
If you wait fifteen months, it gives them a chance
to go ahead and kill a baby. I can't support that.
I just can't. It's a difficult situation. I realized Trump
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is also playing politics. I thank god I don't have
to play him. I mean, I can talk about them,
but I don't have to actually do it. I would
hate to be a politician because it's like swimming in
a septic tank, and it's just terrible to me. I'm
so glad that I don't have that calling in life,
and I admire those who do brave the septic tank,
like you, Christopher and others. Of course, our beloved President,
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the one of the greatest presidents of America's ever had,
and truly a man who loves life. I mean, so there,
everything can stop wars. Look at what's going on right
now with Iran and they just recent outburst and break
down of the government there for few because they pushed
it so far. Israel had it's back against the wall
and it was do or die. If they had to
move then it wouldn't have been been shortly thereafter that
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Israel would be nooped. They're not going to let that happen.
They had to go to war. Trump try to stop them,
but they had no choice. They had to go to war,
and you look at the.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Tragedy of that. It's just horrible. War is horrible. I know.
I've been in war, I've been in combat. I know
how terrible it is. I hate it. I think the
people who can't wait for the day that we've beat.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Our plowshares, I mean our swords into plowshares and our
spears and the prunin hooks. Are military folks, especially combat veterans.
We've seen the howers of war.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
We hate it.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I'm so sorry that happened. I'm seeing the poor civilians
what they've suffered. Through this bombing, but it will head
no choice, so Trump tried to stop that. Trump is
a peacemaker man. He loves life from the very beginning
of life. But he's having to play politics, so he's
cutting it down, you know, bringing it to fifteen weeks. Anyway,
chrispher it's a difficult situation. Politics are difficult, and we're
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get in sticky difficult situations.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
So we just have to see how it works out.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Anyway, it is time for us to take a break, folks,
and we'll be back shortly.
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that's going to have something to do with our New
Orleans politics and the upcoming mayor's race and what about justice,
So we're really getting justice in this city. Well, we'll
find out because my partner Christopher's got it all down here.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Christopher take it away.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Close out Today's discussion. By looking at the New Orleans
mayors race, it's been pretty set. Josh author Hunter is
the outlier and what is a pretty close contest between
Helene and Moreno and Oliver Thomas. But there's been a
lot of question as to who is going to succeed
Oliver Thomas. It is a particular seat district E, which
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is New Orleans East and the ninth ward well Senator
John Johnson, who actually, if you noted, went to prison
for five months, is running. He's gonna actually join us
at next week's show high And one of the reasons
he's running is he says he was unfairly imprisoned, that
he would've gotten a fine and a technical violation, and
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because he was black and a politician, a Democrat from
New Orleans, the Justice Apartment threw the book at him.
It's an interesting theorem. We're gonna discuss it, but basically
it boils down to this. He was accused of taking
money out of a nonprofit, but he didn't that much
was stipulated.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
He wrote some personal checks for some items out of
his own pocket.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
It was a technical violation, but was it worthy of
him going to prison? We we're in an interesting position
that he's running for office both to win but also
to explain himself.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
The idea of a political campaign as a platform to.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Air one's not just ideological positions, but defensive one's career.
It doesn't happened before, but is it going to become
more common that when you stand in your soapbox and
the park, to use the Hyde Park euphemism of old,
you're not just talking about your ideas, You're talking about
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yourself and perhaps the way you're wronged.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
We'll find out on next week's show.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Fascinating Chrisphern, thank you for such a good insight in
what's going on the mayor's race. And you know, folks,
I've experienced this being unjustly gunned down, if you will,
by the quote justice system. I won't get into the details.
I did survive it, but it was brutal. I have
one of my best friends. He and I are in
the ministry together. He's an attorney and he got done in.
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I mean, really, you can't imagine what this man went through,
even police brutality, everything, he went through, it all and
he was terribly treated. They had to drop the charges
because he was innocent. They couldn't nothing could stick. But
they really hurt him. They really hurt him badly, and
he fought it and he tried to bring charges against
the perpetrators, but the system is so corrupt.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
He never could. He finally had to just give it up.
They beat him. We do have injustice in this country.
It's a terrible thing.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
And I'm really looking forward to hearing his story, mister
Johnson's story coming up next week. Say, y'all have listen
up now, there's going to be a good show next week.
Christmas got all the scoop on it. I can't wait
to hear about it. Well, folks, it is time for
us to take a break and we will be right back.
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Got os two shoes.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Well, folks are back and you're listening to the final show,
and it's not time for us to go into our
chaplain by bah patriotic moment. We just took a brief
moment to remind you of the biblical foundations of our
country are Judeo Christian jurisprudence, and of course this is chaplain.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
I McHenry.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
You know, one of my favorite stories of the American
Revolution was a story about a unit known as the
Black Robe Regiment or the Black Regiment or the Black
black Robe Regiment was a full name of it. It
was the most feared unit in all of America in
the thirteen colonies. It operated in all thirteen colonies. The
British press was always railing against it, and it struck
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fear and terror in the halls of Parliament. This is
a very powerful unit. They couldn't be stopped no matter
what evil things were done against them no matter what
treacheries and the British had some pretty dirty ways of
getting you. This unit continued to fight and lead. It
was dynamic. You know what it's called the Black Roads Regiment.
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It was the preachers of America, all across America who
were calling their churches to secede from the British, from Britain,
the British Empire. They were calling their people to support
the independence of this country. And they didn't just call
them to do it and motivate them to do it.
They put on uniforms and went and fought, and they
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paid deer deer prices because when they were caught, they
were almost summarily excuted. They would terribly treat and abused,
and they burned their churches down. The British could be
very mean.
Speaker 6 (47:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
They didn't call them the bloody British because they were
nice guys. So folks.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
That's quite a story. And among those great preachers is
a man named Richard Allen, Reverend Richard Allen, I love
this guy, one of the greatest preachers of his day.
He founded one of the greatest denominations still around to
this day, the Ame Church, the African Methodist Episcopal Church.
He'd been a slave. His master saw what a good
man he's converted. At sixteen he became a born again Christian,
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and his masters saw what a great guy he was.
He was so impressed with him. He'd set him free,
and all of that supported him in the ministry. That's
what a dynamic that madness was, and what a good
master he had had that he was honorable enough to see.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
The evils of slavery and worked to end slavery. The
master did.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Richard Allen said this, this land, which we have watered
with our tears and our blood, is now our mother country.
And we are well satisfied to stay where wisdom of
bounds and the Gospel is free. You hear that, folks,
The Gospel is free. And I want to tell you
something as we now go into our chaplain by by
a gospel a moment, the scripture says, for we have
been saved by grace. That word grace means free gift.
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It's free. You can't work for it, you can in it.
We've been saved by grace to faith. And even that
it's not of ourselves. We can't conjure it up within
our We don't have that kind of faith. Even that
is not of ourselves. It is a gift of God. See,
even our faith comes to us as a gift. It
is a gift of God, not of works, lest any
man should boast. You know, the Scripture says the grace
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of God, which brings salvation, hath appeared into all people.
And it says that the word of faith has gone
to the whole world. That means everybody gets grace, everybody
gets faith. Not everybody's going to necessarily get the Bible, unfortunately.
But God says, that's okay, because I've written the Bible
and the heavenings. I've written the Bible in creation. If
you see creation, you can see me. You can learn
what's in the Bible. So, without excuse, that's in Romans
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and many other passages in the Scripture. So, folks, you see,
whether you get the benefits of a nice Christian education
or you're a hot and tot running around out in
the bush and never heard of a Christian mission or
anything else, God still loves that He's long suffering for you,
not knowing that you should parish, that any shop parents,
but that all should come to repentance, and that brings
us to the concept of repentance. What is repentance. Repentance
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is when you believe for sure you're hopeless and help us.
Without God, there's absolutely nothing you can do to save yourself.
You're done, you're finished, it's over. You're just not good enough.
And when you come to that point in your life
when you realize just how smartlly bankruptcy really are the
best for the best of people, the script says, all
of our right.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Are as filthy rigs.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
You're ready to then put faith alone in Christ alone,
to believe that He did die for all of your sins,
that he was buried, and that He rose from the
dead to win for you that precious free gift of resurrection,
ever lasting life. You gotta repent. That means you believe
you can't save yourself as part of your faith, and
then you got to believe that only He can, that
He did, and then He will save you from a
burning hill and guarantee you everlasting life because you put
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childlike faith in the Gospel. The scripture says, the Gospel
is the power of God at the salvation. So when
you really believe with all your heart, could you not
trust anything else? You do not trust anything else because
you've repented, you've given up on trusting in yourself and
thinking you can do something that you're rich enough, smart enough,
religious enough, holy enough, whatever it is, charming enough, get
their long list of things you can claim that where
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you can say, well, that would get me in or
at least that will help God out. He doesn't need
your help. He can't use your help. You'll only get
in the way so quick trying to help. Just trust
him with the faith of a little child.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
That's all you got to do.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Do it, folks, Do it now, and make sure you're
going to be in that day when the Saints go
marching in in that number. You want to be in
that number when the Saints go marching in. I hope
you do, and I hope you'll be there. I hope
I'll see you there. Well, folks, it isn't no time
for us to go into our final A little short message,
call the watchman on the wall. In the Old Testament,
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it says that the watchman would would have to stand
on the wall to protect the city. Enemy would come
after warning the city, so there'd be no blood on
his hands. I don't want any blood on my hands
some moarning you folks. You got to hear this, folks,
And remember when Jeans died for all your sins. He
died for all of them, from the day you born,
of the day you die, your times to the greatest sins.
So here what the Watchman has to say. And I'm
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gonna be talking about end time events. I'm gonna be
talking about that Jesus is coming back soon to take
you to glory with him. But before he comes back,
this world's going to get awfully bad, the worst we
could ever imagine seeing it.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
It's going to be horrible.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
The Four Horsemen Apocalypse are going to be raging all
around the world at a full run, faster than a gallop,
and they're going to be bringing death and destruction and
horrors and everything to the point where by the end,
but by the time Jesus comes back, there's only going
to be like fifty to one hundred million people.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
Left on this earth. Folks. It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Today, I want to talk about war, the red horse
of the Horseman Apocalypse.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
You see it raging all around us right now.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
You see it in the Middle East, you see it
in Europe, you see it in Africa, you can see
it in Asia.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
We're seeing it in the riots in this country right now.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Believe me, the four horsemen of the Apocalypse are running fast,
and the red horse, the horse of war, is tearing
up this world right now. And you know what, folks,
it's only gonna get worse. It can only get worse.
So buckle up. But you might, I might say, cheer up,
because you know it. Jesus is still on the throne.
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And when he comes back with a mighty sword, this time,
he's coming back as a mighty warrior.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
He's going to take out all the bad guys, and.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Then he's going to rule this world for a thousand
years in a time that the world has never seen
or can never even imagine. Peace, total peace, no war,
no crime, no disease, you know, no want, no no poverty.
I mean, it's just going to be wonderful for a
thousand years.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
Folks.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
It's coming and it's coming soon. But before it gets here,
it's gonna get awfully bad. You need a safe house,
you need a bunker. I'll give you a tip, the
greatest bunker you can ever get, greatest, say house, and
I'll give you the name of it.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
The Lord Jesus Christ. Trust him right.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Now with all your heart, believing that he died for
all your sins, was bread and rose from the day.
If you've never done that before, please do it now.
Don't wait till it's too late. Like the country preacher said,
and like the scripture says, now today is a day
of salvation.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
Well focus.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
It is not time for us to close with the
mine Saint Martin singing a Creole goodbye, and God bless
all out there.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
They call you cel goodbye. They think we're just wasted
out the time.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
All three, Sibley, there's time for a Creo good bye.
Battles, the politicians, the press, the digitators and magicians choose
to see the money they did, don't there's nothing to
fill the holes while then are filling their pockets fid holes,
the politicians bouncing down the road. Everybody's wish for no moment,
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corruption and dysfunctional. It's gonna take me, divide it a vention.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
And God bless all out there. You are now listening
to the founders. So the voice of the founding fathers,
your founding fathers, coming to you deep within the bowels
of those mystic and cryptic alligator swamps of the Big Easy,
that old Crescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana, and high up
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on top of that old Liberty cypress tree draped in
Spanish moss, way out on the Eagles Branch, this is
none other then your spend Gary Baby all the Republic Chaplain.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Hi mcgnry, who.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
With Christopher Tibney Roving a reporter, resident, radical, moderate associate
editor of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at Louisiana Weekly dot net.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
And Hi, and we've got a lot to talk about today.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
We're going to, of course, look at the aftermath of
the Louisiana legislative session, a few major changes, including one
on social policy, specifically abortion policy, that would put them
at odds with r f K juniors. They put Louisiana
at odds and Louisiana doctors at odds with r f
K juniors, Health and Human Services Department, and President Donald Trump.
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And it's done by pro life legislators. We'll talk about
this into Republican feud a little later in the show.
We also have several other topics going on. We're going
to talk a little bit about upcoming marriage races and
candidates that are looking and particularly a new candidate that
may be looking in the district eBrace next week's show
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and how that's going to play out. But before we
get in any of that, I want to tell you
where I've been this last week, and that's been on
the Canadian Empress cruise boat going down the Saint Lawrence Seaway,
going through the thousand Islands that separate it's actually of
the thousand islands that separate Canada and the United States.
What I was about to say, it's actually not a
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thousand islands. It's eighteen hundred and sixty four. There are
eighteen hundred and sixty four Islands in the Thousand Islands
for those that are only familiar with it because of
the dressing. One Thousand Island dressing was created a blunt
castle on Millionaire's Row on the Canadian side in the
Thousand Islands. It was for mister Blount and his wife
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as a special treat of ingredients that are created on
Thousand Islands.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
But it's given me a.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Perspective because this is the area of Canada that was
traditionally comprised of United Empire loyalists.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
It's where the loyalists went after the American Revolution.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
And as I've been in Canada, there's been a huge
debate in the Canadian House of Commons, Canadian Parliament, Ottawa
about the interactions with the United States, and particularly how
it's affecting their economy. You might have noticed that home
costs had been shooting up way above even the previous
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rate of inflation, and that has to do with a
tariff that Donald Trump put on and not that Joe
Biden was all that much better with this, but it's
called softwoods. It's the forest products tariff. So most of
our wood comes from Canada and we've put on a
pretty significant tariff not ten percent, but significantly higher, actually
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between twenty five and thirty percent of wood products.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
And it's making building houses more expensive.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
It's also crippling parts of the Canadian economy. What's interesting
about this tariff is Donald Trump, if you remember reading,
negotiated an after agreement for the USMCA, and it created
an arbitration panel. And the arbitration panel has ruled four
times that this was an unjustified tariff, and that you
know it was that there were no bad trade eras
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trade practices that will make this tariff worth wall and
American consumers, particularly those trying to buy a house or
anything that's made out of wood, have been feeling furniture
and all this have been feeling the impact. But it
made me think about the bigger perspective of Canada in
this whole fifty first state argument.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Well, let's put something aside for a second.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
If Canada really were to join the United States, it
would not be fifty one in the fifty first state.
It would comprise their ten Canadian provinces. You'd put ten
states in maybe two maybe three in a good year,
would vote Republican, Alberta, probably Manitoban, Saskatchewan, the rest would
consist certainly vote democratic. So by Canada joining the United States,
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you're pretty much creating a democratic a permanent Democratic electoral
vote majority. She always thought this whole argument was kind
of absurd. But the idea that Canada is integrated with
the United States shouldn't be so extraordinary.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Nor should we be.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Mad at them for wanting to maintain their independence. So
let's explare something for a second. You know, when you
think of a lot about this show about the Battle
of New Orleans, the British forces that try to take
over New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
As we've explained to you many times.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Their goal was to take over Louisiana, the entire Louisiana
purchase that was not recognized by any nation. Well, the
United States had a goal in that war that was
to take over Canada. Canada was attacked multiple times. I
went to four different battlefields, from Plattsburgh to Elizabethtown, all
the way up to Mountquica and some of the other
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in Massapequa. Famous battles that came out in the War
of eighteen twelve.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Why is the White House white?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Well, an American task force burned the Canadian provincial capital
then called York, now called Toronto, and the British responded
by burning the White House down and we didn't have
the money of rebuilds whitewashed it. But what I kept
looking when you go through the Canadian what's called originally
Upper Canada.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Today it's Ontario.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
The area along the Saint Lawrence River is the most
loyalist area of Britain in the world. And why do
I say of Britain because even today you go through
that area, go through Norst of Canada, you'll see a
maple leaf. In a few areas, you may see the
Canadian red ensign. This is the Canadian flag that actually
has the Union flag on the corner the way the
Australians and.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
New Zealanders do.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But you go through this area through Brockville and the
surrounding communities, and you see the British Union jack the
Union flag flying everywhere. This has always been true. This
is an area that goes its identity and its founding
to people who refuse to give up the crown. Let
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us remember that if will want people to respect our revolution,
we have to respect those that had a counter revolution.
They just didn't flee the revolution. They fought us during
the War of eighteen twelve, as we try to take
over Canada repeatedly, and it was a pretty brutal battle,
a series of battles. Most of the soldiers across the
border were not being very attentive to property or human.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Lives such as war.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
But the people in the Maritimes themselves also fought a
civil war in eighteen thirty seven eighteen thirty eight. It's
called the Upper Canada Rebellion, where a group of Americans
got together with a couple of discrimal Canadians and tried
to launch a revolution to get.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Canada to become the fifty first state.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
This actually happened, and it was summarily rejected. The Canadians
fought to a person to remain under the crown, and
very loyally, if you might have noticed, Prince King Charles
came and spoke and opened the Canadian Parliament, and Canadian
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newspapers had an overwhelming state of loyalism to their king
because Charles Windsor's other.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Title, one of his other titles, is King of Canada.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
And the Canadians themselves are a proud and patriotic and
independent people, and their revolution was a counter revolution. It
is wonder made of loyalty. I might remind people that,
you know, why would do none dare call it treason?
Because if you succeed, none dare call it treason. But
what was the American Revolution treason? My ancestors fought it proudly,
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both the Revolution of seventeen sixty eighth and the American
Revolution seven years later, but it was in the conventional
version trees and against you know, you're sworn oath against
the crown. I think we're respected today because we stood
up for liberty. It's another way of looking at the
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same argument. But the Canadians stood up for liberty too,
the liberty to choose to remain under that ground and
form their own nation under that crown. And so that's
why it is kind of fundamentally disrespectful that when we
come out and say Canada should be the fifty first state,
it's all fun and games, But to the Canadians, it's
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spitting on them. It's spitting on their revolution. And I
look at some of the absurdities that the United States.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Has put on. If you're in the Thousand Islands.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
The thing that's interesting, along the Saint Lawrence, this is
one of the most heavily trafficked shipping ways in the world,
from the Atlantic, through the St. Law to the Gulf
of St. Lawrence, to Lake Saint Lawrence, all the way
through the river systems to the Great Lakes, the Welling Canal,
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all of these areas, when you look at them, the
distance between the United States in Canada is sometimes a
matter of that.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Eve been a tenth of a mile.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
And it used to be people would go back and
forth with more problem. And I'm talking on boats because
of the Thousand Islands, you get eighteen hundred and sixty
four islands.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
They're the only way.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
To get between them are boats, and every one of
them seems to have a house on it.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
It's a beautiful area.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
So I was asking some people in the last town
I went to the Thousand Island Boat Museum.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
I said, what do you do if you're going just
on a regular boat and it's just like right over there,
how do.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
You And she said, well, do you have to go
to a border station? She said, there's a telephone number
you call. And so when you're coming from the United
States to Canada, it's fine, you call the tele phone number.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
It's not a big deal.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Canadians don't care but when you go back to the
United States, you have to go to an actual station
on your boat, even if the two properties.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Sometimes these islands high I'm.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Not exaggerating when I say this are no more than
fifty yards away, and you have to go several miles,
sometimes dozens of miles down to be able to go
from your home to your work. And it made me
think the number of times I've crossed this border, the
number of commerce we have with Canada, and say the
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one thing Trump doesn't want to say, and nobody's really saying,
we ought to have free movement of population with the Canadians.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
You don't have to make Canada.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
The fifty first state or the fifty first through sixtieth state,
but we should have a border with them. Fentanyl has
brought up as an issue. More fentanyl comes from the
United States that has ever come out of Canada by
a factor of a thousand. It's not the Canadians, our
long standing and our long standing friend, that we're making.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Into an enemy that we should be worried about.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
It is ourselves as to why are we targeting our
our our blood. Literally New Orleans is founded from Montreal,
We're descended from Canadians.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Why do we spend our.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Time acting like Canada is something alien? And why is
the Trump administration? Why are we letting ourselves be pulled
into this? Economically, it doesn't make sense. The tariffs in
Canada are affecting every industry, but particularly the softwood tariffs
are driving up our home costs, They're driving up everything.
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This policy is being bad and the latest release of
t U of the inflation rate, that we've exceeded the
inflation rate, shows that tariffs really are having an impact
on people's basic needs. Buy a house by furniture, by
the most basic elements of life.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Your thoughts, why yes, oh yes, Christopher, my mind is
variably pregnant with thoughts right now. Very interesting insights into Canada,
and thank you for it. Uh, I can really see
a lot about what you're saying, but of course not
everything as always, But thank you Christopher. What a remarkable
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history lesson and tour of Canada. You know, I've always
liked the Canadian people.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
They're very nice, you know, they're very polite, very proper.
They once had a movie about that. It's really it
was hilarious. It's a comedy about how people in like
somewhere in the Northern States where they border in Canada.
They were right near the border, and they got some
kind of way. They thought Canada was going to invade America.
So they put together militia unit and invaded Canada. And
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the Canadians was so polite to these these gruff.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Ob noxious Americans.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Hilarious movie anyway, But the Canadians are really a fine people,
and it's a great country, and I'm glad they're to
the north of us. But Christopher, I understand some of
the biggest and the largest amount of illegal alien entries
into America's coming through Canada. The Canadian boarder is not
well watched at all on both sides. So we need
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to get those old MONTI remember the Mounties. I love
the mountis Man, I love them. And we have a
famous comedian American meeting whose father was a Mountie. He's
the one who owns the the Blues you know cafe
and Blues Brother's Cafe or whatever it's called. And the
tariffs that we have with Canada right now, you know,
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we we've really put ourselves behind the eight ball and
all this tariff stuff where all around the world after
World War Two, all the nations were hurting so badly.
So what America do. We said, we're gonna help you out.
We're gonna give you all kinds of tax I mean,
excuse me, trade advantages, and you can tariff us all
over the place, but we're not going to tear off you.
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So they established an imbalance of tariffs, which is okay
in the beginning because it helped all these countries come back,
and I'm glad we did that, but you know, it's
been eighty years now they're back. They've long since been back,
and we need to even the score. So it's time
for us to come up with tariffs that will even
the score. And that's all Trump is doing. And by
the way, Christopher, I've been hearing a lot of top
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level economists saying that this is fantastic. And remember he's
dropped the the inflation rate has dropped significantly during the
Biden years. Yeah, the housing was skyrocketing, everything was skyrocketing.
It's all coming down now. So you know, as far
as the lumber industry goes, we need to even that up.
We don't need to get all our lumber just from Canada.
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We got so much lumber down here. When do our
lumber people get to make some profits off of our
timber industry? You know what's wrong with that? Do we
have to give it all to Canada? I mean, they're
big boys.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
They can handle it.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
They can find other markets for the time. They don't
have to sell it all just to us. So it's
time to even things up. And that's what I think
Trump is doing, and I think it's doing a tremendous
job of it. Our economy is doing better than it's
done in a long time. Unemployment's way down. Everything's going
great right now, even though there's some hiccups. Of course,
Look when you have to do this kind of a job.
After the Biden administration, the Democrat Party had crashed America
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as badly as they did, bringing millions and millions of
legals in, including all the drugs, all the sex driver,
all the evil they brought in this country. And now
Trump's got to clean it all up. It's a mess.
We got the riots.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
You know, it's like whenever the Democrats don't get their way,
they're like spoiled children. They have temper tantrums and they
hurt people. They cause extreme damage we're watching that right
now around the country, and I hope it doesn't explode
into what happened in twenty twenty, where over five hundred
and seventy locations were hit by Democrat insurrectionist mobs. They
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destroyed over billions of dollars worth of property, they looted
hundreds of millions of dollars of chattel property. Understand, they
killed fifty cops, put two thousand in the hospital, and
I don't know how many other people were killed and raped.
It was a very bad time, and they're threatening to
do it again.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
This is criminal. But you know, Trump's not gonna let
him get away with this time.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
He's really coming after him, thank God for that, and
he's got an extremely strong team of law enforcement people.
The Democrats are really up against it now if they
think they're going to and we see what he's already done.
The Los Angeles already start to calm it all down there,
even though the Democratic leadership over there once again had
the cops stand down once again, supported the rioters, the murderers,
the thieves, the illegals, the illegal aliens. Anyway, that's I'm
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getting off topic here, But as far as the King
goes of the British Empire and folks, people don't realize.
When I was six years old, I'll never forget the
Queen Elizabeth was coronated, and I'll never forget from some
good friends of mine, they were really into all this
and they would tell them. I was learning all about
you know, the king of the British Empire.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Are a king.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I found that the king was just a figurehead that
the crown, and that the empire was pretty much over with.
And that's not true. In this race and coronation, a
lot came out that I didn't know about. The British
Empire is still there. It's over one billion people, folks.
That's pretty big. That's huge. That makes it as big
as all the China and India. Uh and it's and
and the king himself is one of the richest men
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in the world. Richest people the crowd, whoever it is,
with the king or queen, they inherit the wealth. He's
worth over a trillion dollars he owns, he owns any
he owns, like some enormous amount of property just in
England itself, billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars,
of property in England. That's not counting the whole rest
of the Empire. And yeah, Canada isn't take note, Canada
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is part of that. So I don't have a whole
lot of confidence in this king. I don't think he's
such a good guy. And time doesn't allow us to
go into all that. But we've all heard the stories,
So I'm sorry the Canadians are so loyal to such
an unpleasant fellow. Let's say, who thinks that we need
to reduce the world's population down to ten percent of
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what it is today. That's a sick thing, folks, that
is sick to think to save the world, he's got
to kill ninety percent of the world.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
How are they going to do that? Think about it.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Agenda twenty thirty tells you all about you an Agenda
twenty thirty, and the Club of Rome has all the
details on how they're going to do that. It's not
nice anyway, the UH. As far as America finding its independence,
you know, and for the July we're coming up on that.
As far as America literally seceding from the British Empire,
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because we did secede, and we did it according to law.
Now people what do you mean laala? They called it
natural law, which had become a very powerful concept at
that time in Europe in the Western world. And if
it wasn't natural law, then they called it the laws
of Nature's God. So you see that's in the decoration Dependence.
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It says they're doing what they're doing by the because
of nature, by the laws of nature, or by the
laws of Nature's God. The laws of Nature's God is
the Holy Bible. That was the theological term because in
the Bible, the scripture says, if you don't have a Bible,
you can find me in nature. You can see me
in the heavenlies. You don't have to have a Bible
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to find me. God's very clear about that. He wouldn't
leave people out all around the world that don't have Bibles. No,
he loves everybody, so he says, if you can't find
me in the Bible, you can find me in nature
natural law. And according to natural law, when the leadership
becomes so corrupt that you just can't follow it anymore,
and that's even.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Taught to the church.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
The church is taught to secede from wicked leadership. Jeeves
said to be wills and cleves sheep's clothing, not sparing
the flock, and they'd be getting in charge of things.
And he said, so when that happens, we are to
withdraw from that evil leadership.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
That's what we did. In America. We worked very hard
to save the union with Mother England. We really did.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Ben Franklin worked himself to death in England for about
ten years trying to save men defences, so to speak,
and save us from seceding from the from the British Empire.
He did so much that in America and Boston, and
he was being called a trader's you know he's from
He lived in Philadelphia. He's being called a trader in Philadelphia.
He worked so hard to try to save the union
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with the British Empire, but when it just got too far,
he went ahead and threw in his hat with the
secessionists in Philadelphia and voted for the Decoration of Independence
to secede from the British Empire. So there's nothing wrong
about that, Christopher. That was a good thing. I think
you have that wrong. It indicated perhaps we were guilty
of trees, and I don't think so. As far as
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our ancestors go. You're right, Montreal, a religious freedom city
in Canada, by the way, came down the river and
created New Orleans, and I have ancestry us from there.
They got off the boat literally would be in Villainebberville.
And then I have ancests from the other side, the
other part of Canada, Nova, Scotia, Godah, the Acadians, the
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Cajuns that came down here have ancestors from them also,
that's the other part of Canada and America. And of
course the Cagi has become a very popular group in America,
Cajun music, cage and food. Anyway, folks' those are my
thoughts from Canada. I think you brought up some really
good things here, and I wish we would establish I
like the idea of some kind of connectivity with Canada
where we have the freedom to go back and forth
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and almost like it's part of that we're part of
one big country, but yet we still have our separate
parliaments and separate ways of doing things. I hope maybe
they'll come up with that. That's a great idea, chrispher
I like that, so maybe that'll happen. And and then well,
let's say, thought about Canada. The first unit I belonged
to twelve Special Forces Group in the Army US Army
Special Forces better known as Green Berets. My first unit,
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first time I ever wore green beret was in that unit.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
It was up in.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Chicago and we would just our heritage. Was the first
special Forces brigade, I think it was. It was a
commando unit, a joint unit, actually a coalition unit of
Canadian and American forces, and we were trained to do
great damage to the enemy, to the primarily to the Germans.
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We were mainly in Europe. We were known as devils
and baggy pants. And if you saw the movie in
Gloria's Bastards, it's the story of that unit.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Now that's an exaggerated story.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
We didn't do all that stuff, but we did things
like that, and the Germans were terrified of us. They
would when they were bivouacking on the combat line and.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
The troops would wake up.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
The German troops they'd looked to the right and the
left and people next to them and had their throats
cut by us. It terrified the Germans and that was
one of the most powerful psyop operations in that war.
And I belonged to that unit. Twelve Special Forces Group.
Great unit. They've retired it since it's been not joined
to the twentieth Group. Also ended up in the twenty
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Special Forces Group. Well, folks, Christopher, I know you've got
some more exciting stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Fos K. Wait here, what you can tell us? So
what's it all about happening down here? You know, like our.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
State Louisiana, the legislation. What is going on with this state? Christopher?
You're really good at figuring it all out, So tell
us what's going on? Thank you, Christopher.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
I think we should turn our attention to the Louisiana
legislature and we would be going through the aftermath of
the legislative session over the next couple of weeks. The
governor's major priority, to lower the income tax rate, as
we've discussed in previous.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Programs, failed miserably. He managed to get the.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Legislation to pass it and then to unpass it when
they realized they don't know how to.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Pay for it.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Some very negative things happened out of this legislative session.
The end of the live performance tax credits. There was
an effort to expand school choice. The governor wanted it
to be ubiquitous, Senate President Cameron Henry limited it to
a moderate increase because of the budgetary impact, but school
choice advocates were pleased. There is an increase in the
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number of kids who will be able to access the
school choice program. They're not those making less than eighty
thousand dollars, which was the governor's original intention. Other things happened,
but what have been most fascinated about was a bill
that passed with pretty much overwhelming support, at least in
the Republican side, And what it does is allows individuals
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to sue doctors who send the abortion pill across state lines. Now,
I'm not a purist at all.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
In fact, like yu Hi, I'm fundamentally.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Pro life in my heart and my religious faith.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
To believe life begins a conception.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
I've always, for example, believed that life should be protected
from conception to natural death. It's made me a deep
skeptic on the death penalty. I how people bring up
the doctrine of innocent versus guilty blood. I'm looking at
it from a much more non spiritual perspective. It's never
a good idea for governments to take lives. Having said that,
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I'm enough of a pragmatist or.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
A hypocrite, depending upon how you folks want to label
me to say that eliminating.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
The death penalty in every single case is not realistic
in a society, there are situations of crime so grgeous
that that having someone with the possibility of release does
not fulfill a societal need.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
The principle is I don't want it.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
The pragmatic is someone who has killed a child committed treason.
We can go through specific things. The death penalty may
be the only way to deal with it, as you
know as one person, or is it should be rare
but legal. Well, speaking of rare and legal, you and
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I have sparred on where is the point of argument
on the creation of a human life? Forgive me for
putting words in your mouth high I want. By the
way I've understood your explanation of this in the past
has been you believe life starts a conception as to I,
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but you're willing to entertain that there's an argument in
the first six weeks before there a baby has a
heartbeat as to whether it's a baby something that is
to have a heartbeat. There's an argument and therefore can
be legal grounds. I take that a step further. My
viewpoint has been that it's brainwave activity, that the frontal lobe,
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the frontal cortex, the magu lambaggata, and the other areas
of the brain do not develop until the fifteenth almost
sixteenth week, and when a baby doesn't have is brainwave activity. Therefore,
a fetus is not alive anymore than a person who's
brain dead in a hospital on life support machines is alive.
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You can turn off the life support machines and not
be killing that person. You're not guilty of murder because
they don't have a brainwave activity. Doesn't make me comfortable Personally,
I wouldn't do it, but I think there's a gray
area for legality. You and I can argue this issue
back and forth. High what you can't argue is the
fact that President Trump agrees with me, not with you.
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He said it time and time again that fifteen weeks
should be allowed. He went so far as to support
the original bill, the original vote in Florida to allow
fifteen weeks. He has very openly said he supports the
abortion bill pill, which does abortions only up to fifteen weeks,
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being sent across state lines and more particularly his Secretary
of Health and Human Services, Robert F.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Kennedy Junior, also does Now.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Of course, Bobby Kennedy got a lot of news this
week he fired the entire panel of CDC vaccine experts.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
We can argue this.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
It was the red line that Bill Cassidy said he
should never pass, and Cassidy is now having to defend
this if he goes into it. But I want to
address that in a future show, not ignoring that it happened.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
I'm what no one is bringing up is the fact
that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. While not using the power
of Health and Human.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Services to try to keep abortion legal after fifteen weeks
anyway where it leaves out to the states, that's what
the president wants, that's what he wants. Does believe doctors
have the right to prescribe the drugs and use the
postal system to get it. A group of Louisiana lawmakers
are trying to create the ability to sue doctors in
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Louisiana state courts from other states where they are protected
under the law.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
To be able to send this out.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
I mean literally, in states like New York, the laws
protects them and shields them from all litigation. What makes
this interesting is Trump has pled absolutely begged legislatures to
not do this because he knows that this is the weakness.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Political weakness, but also.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
An ideological weakness in the Republican Party. There were quite
a few women who voted for pro choice positions in Florida,
for example. Then turn around vyever Donald Trump in the
same election. Because where the American people are on the
abortion issue is essentially they want it to be safe
and rare. They want it for the first fifteen weeks,
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and after that they don't.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Really want it.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
It's a little close to it fanticide. Neither side supports that.
Of the pro life purists do not support that. The
pro choice purists do not. The pro chose purists are
ready to abort a baby and some wad's breathing, you know,
into the third trimester when very few people would defend it,
but they defend it as a woman's choice when it
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is pretty clearly in fantaside. But this is what I
find interesting. Trump has hit the pulse of the American people.
There are times I don't like Trump, I'm the first
one to admit it, but he's kind of got the
balance on this perfectly to where the Republicans seem like
the reasonable party, and when allegy stature tries to create
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a series of lawsuits that are unconstitutional. You cannot sue
someone for legal act in another state that was decided
by Maulberry versus Madison. This has been one of the
fundamental points of US jerisprudence. So we go through all
this exercise so if they ever come into Louisiana, they
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can be hit with all of these penalties over something
that quite literally is legal nationally and supported by the
Republican president and his Secretary of Health of Human Services.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
That fundamentally is not just stupid politics. It's wrong.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Your thoughts, yes, Christopher, I have thoughts. Thoughts.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
In fact, again my mind is veritably pregnant with thoughts
and no pun intended considering the topic. I have my
own strong beliefs about pro life and all that, and
I started way back at LSU before it was even
law on this, before to the Roe versus Wade. I
debated it, I won the debate student council, and it
turned the tithe everybody, the radicals were there screaming how
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it looked like it was gonna go you know, a
pro abortion, and God gave me the words of wisdom
what I needed and it turned the tide.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
It's amazing experience.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I was just a freshman at LSU anyway, on the
student government Association, I represented the Greeks.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
I was a deek, if you can imagine that. Anyway, So.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
The UH I personally believe, according to the scripture, according
to the word of God, conception is the beginning of
human life. You have a human being there, it's human DNA,
and you have a living cell. It's not a dead cell,
it's a living cell. And it becomes two cells you know,
as I go and eventually becomes an embryo, that it
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becomes a fetus.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
H But I believe it. Life starts there. And they've
they've already seen.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
It now it's been photographed and whatnot with all the
great new modern technology that when the sperm hits the cell,
the female sell egg, there's literally a burst of light
right at that moment, and scientists can't explain, they don't
know what's causing that. It's human life. God is beginning
in another life right there now. If you don't want
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to buy that, that's fine. So you know, realizing the
politics of the whole thing, and you got to play politics.
I believe that. Then I planted and went to six weeks,
because it's six weeks. You have brain waves and you
have a heartbeat. Chris says it's fifteen months, but actually
I think you have the first brain waves. That's six weeks.
And so if we keep it to that, there'll be
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no abortions because women don't know that they have they're
pregnant until about two months into it, and then it's
too late. So that would solve the problem right there.
If you wait fifteen months, it gives them a chance
to go ahead and kill a baby. I can't support that.
I just can't. It's a difficult situation. I realized Trump
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is also playing politics. I thank god I don't have
to play him. I mean, I can talk about them,
but I don't have to actually do it. I would
hate to be a politician because it's like swimming in
a septic tank, and it's just terrible to me. I'm
so glad that I don't have that calling in life,
and I admire those who do brave the septic tank,
like you, Christopher and others. Of course, our beloved President,
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the one of the greatest presidents of America's ever had,
and truly a man who loves life. I mean, so there,
everything can stop wars. Look at what's going on right
now with Iran and they just recent outburst and break
down of the government there for few because they pushed
it so far. Israel had it's back against the wall
and it was do or die. If they had to
move then it wouldn't have been been shortly thereafter that
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Israel would be nooped. They're not going to let that happen.
They had to go to war. Trump try to stop them,
but they had no choice. They had to go to war,
and you look at the.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Tragedy of that. It's just horrible. War is horrible. I know.
I've been in war, I've been in combat. I know
how terrible it is. I hate it. I think the
people who can't wait for the day that we've beat.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Our plowshares, I mean our swords into plowshares and our
spears and the prunin hooks. Are military folks, especially combat veterans.
We've seen the howers of war.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
We hate it.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I'm so sorry that happened. I'm seeing the poor civilians
what they've suffered. Through this bombing, but it will head
no choice, so Trump tried to stop that. Trump is
a peacemaker man. He loves life from the very beginning
of life. But he's having to play politics, so he's
cutting it down, you know, bringing it to fifteen weeks. Anyway,
chrispher it's a difficult situation. Politics are difficult, and we're
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get in sticky difficult situations.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
So we just have to see how it works out.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Anyway, it is time for us to take a break, folks,
and we'll be back shortly.
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the show, and we've got something coming up. I think
that's going to have something to do with our New
Orleans politics and the upcoming mayor's race and what about justice,
So we're really getting justice in this city. Well, we'll
find out because my partner Christopher's got it all down here.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Christopher take it away.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Close out Today's discussion. By looking at the New Orleans
mayors race, it's been pretty set. Josh author Hunter is
the outlier and what is a pretty close contest between
Helene and Moreno and Oliver Thomas. But there's been a
lot of question as to who is going to succeed
Oliver Thomas. It is a particular seat district E, which
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is New Orleans East and the ninth ward well Senator
John Johnson, who actually, if you noted, went to prison
for five months, is running. He's gonna actually join us
at next week's show high And one of the reasons
he's running is he says he was unfairly imprisoned, that
he would've gotten a fine and a technical violation, and
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because he was black and a politician, a Democrat from
New Orleans, the Justice Apartment threw the book at him.
It's an interesting theorem. We're gonna discuss it, but basically
it boils down to this. He was accused of taking
money out of a nonprofit, but he didn't that much
was stipulated.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
He wrote some personal checks for some items out of
his own pocket.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
It was a technical violation, but was it worthy of
him going to prison? We we're in an interesting position
that he's running for office both to win but also
to explain himself.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
The idea of a political campaign as a platform to.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Air one's not just ideological positions, but defensive one's career.
It doesn't happened before, but is it going to become
more common that when you stand in your soapbox and
the park, to use the Hyde Park euphemism of old,
you're not just talking about your ideas, You're talking about
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yourself and perhaps the way you're wronged.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
We'll find out on next week's show.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Fascinating Chrisphern, thank you for such a good insight in
what's going on the mayor's race. And you know, folks,
I've experienced this being unjustly gunned down, if you will,
by the quote justice system. I won't get into the details.
I did survive it, but it was brutal. I have
one of my best friends. He and I are in
the ministry together. He's an attorney and he got done in.
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I mean, really, you can't imagine what this man went through,
even police brutality, everything, he went through, it all and
he was terribly treated. They had to drop the charges
because he was innocent. They couldn't nothing could stick. But
they really hurt him. They really hurt him badly, and
he fought it and he tried to bring charges against
the perpetrators, but the system is so corrupt.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
He never could. He finally had to just give it up.
They beat him. We do have injustice in this country.
It's a terrible thing.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
And I'm really looking forward to hearing his story, mister
Johnson's story coming up next week. Say, y'all have listen
up now, there's going to be a good show next week.
Christmas got all the scoop on it. I can't wait
to hear about it. Well, folks, it is time for
us to take a break and we will be right back.
Speaker 6 (44:33):
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Speaker 5 (45:31):
Got os two shoes.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Well, folks are back and you're listening to the final show,
and it's not time for us to go into our
chaplain by bah patriotic moment. We just took a brief
moment to remind you of the biblical foundations of our
country are Judeo Christian jurisprudence, and of course this is chaplain.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
I McHenry.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
You know, one of my favorite stories of the American
Revolution was a story about a unit known as the
Black Robe Regiment or the Black Regiment or the Black
black Robe Regiment was a full name of it. It
was the most feared unit in all of America in
the thirteen colonies. It operated in all thirteen colonies. The
British press was always railing against it, and it struck
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fear and terror in the halls of Parliament. This is
a very powerful unit. They couldn't be stopped no matter
what evil things were done against them no matter what
treacheries and the British had some pretty dirty ways of
getting you. This unit continued to fight and lead. It
was dynamic. You know what it's called the Black Roads Regiment.
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It was the preachers of America, all across America who
were calling their churches to secede from the British, from Britain,
the British Empire. They were calling their people to support
the independence of this country. And they didn't just call
them to do it and motivate them to do it.
They put on uniforms and went and fought, and they
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paid deer deer prices because when they were caught, they
were almost summarily excuted. They would terribly treat and abused,
and they burned their churches down. The British could be
very mean.
Speaker 6 (47:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
They didn't call them the bloody British because they were
nice guys. So folks.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
That's quite a story. And among those great preachers is
a man named Richard Allen, Reverend Richard Allen, I love
this guy, one of the greatest preachers of his day.
He founded one of the greatest denominations still around to
this day, the Ame Church, the African Methodist Episcopal Church.
He'd been a slave. His master saw what a good
man he's converted. At sixteen he became a born again Christian,
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and his masters saw what a great guy he was.
He was so impressed with him. He'd set him free,
and all of that supported him in the ministry. That's
what a dynamic that madness was, and what a good
master he had had that he was honorable enough to see.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
The evils of slavery and worked to end slavery. The
master did.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Richard Allen said this, this land, which we have watered
with our tears and our blood, is now our mother country.
And we are well satisfied to stay where wisdom of
bounds and the Gospel is free. You hear that, folks,
The Gospel is free. And I want to tell you
something as we now go into our chaplain by by
a gospel a moment, the scripture says, for we have
been saved by grace. That word grace means free gift.
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It's free. You can't work for it, you can in it.
We've been saved by grace to faith. And even that
it's not of ourselves. We can't conjure it up within
our We don't have that kind of faith. Even that
is not of ourselves. It is a gift of God. See,
even our faith comes to us as a gift. It
is a gift of God, not of works, lest any
man should boast. You know, the Scripture says the grace
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of God, which brings salvation, hath appeared into all people.
And it says that the word of faith has gone
to the whole world. That means everybody gets grace, everybody
gets faith. Not everybody's going to necessarily get the Bible, unfortunately.
But God says, that's okay, because I've written the Bible
and the heavenings. I've written the Bible in creation. If
you see creation, you can see me. You can learn
what's in the Bible. So, without excuse, that's in Romans
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and many other passages in the Scripture. So, folks, you see,
whether you get the benefits of a nice Christian education
or you're a hot and tot running around out in
the bush and never heard of a Christian mission or
anything else, God still loves that He's long suffering for you,
not knowing that you should parish, that any shop parents,
but that all should come to repentance, and that brings
us to the concept of repentance. What is repentance. Repentance
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is when you believe for sure you're hopeless and help us.
Without God, there's absolutely nothing you can do to save yourself.
You're done, you're finished, it's over. You're just not good enough.
And when you come to that point in your life
when you realize just how smartlly bankruptcy really are the
best for the best of people, the script says, all
of our right.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Are as filthy rigs.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
You're ready to then put faith alone in Christ alone,
to believe that He did die for all of your sins,
that he was buried, and that He rose from the
dead to win for you that precious free gift of resurrection,
ever lasting life. You gotta repent. That means you believe
you can't save yourself as part of your faith, and
then you got to believe that only He can, that
He did, and then He will save you from a
burning hill and guarantee you everlasting life because you put
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childlike faith in the Gospel. The scripture says, the Gospel
is the power of God at the salvation. So when
you really believe with all your heart, could you not
trust anything else? You do not trust anything else because
you've repented, you've given up on trusting in yourself and
thinking you can do something that you're rich enough, smart enough,
religious enough, holy enough, whatever it is, charming enough, get
their long list of things you can claim that where
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you can say, well, that would get me in or
at least that will help God out. He doesn't need
your help. He can't use your help. You'll only get
in the way so quick trying to help. Just trust
him with the faith of a little child.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
That's all you got to do.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Do it, folks, Do it now, and make sure you're
going to be in that day when the Saints go
marching in in that number. You want to be in
that number when the Saints go marching in. I hope
you do, and I hope you'll be there. I hope
I'll see you there. Well, folks, it isn't no time
for us to go into our final A little short message,
call the watchman on the wall. In the Old Testament,
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it says that the watchman would would have to stand
on the wall to protect the city. Enemy would come
after warning the city, so there'd be no blood on
his hands. I don't want any blood on my hands
some moarning you folks. You got to hear this, folks,
And remember when Jeans died for all your sins. He
died for all of them, from the day you born,
of the day you die, your times to the greatest sins.
So here what the Watchman has to say. And I'm
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gonna be talking about end time events. I'm gonna be
talking about that Jesus is coming back soon to take
you to glory with him. But before he comes back,
this world's going to get awfully bad, the worst we
could ever imagine seeing it.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
It's going to be horrible.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
The Four Horsemen Apocalypse are going to be raging all
around the world at a full run, faster than a gallop,
and they're going to be bringing death and destruction and
horrors and everything to the point where by the end,
but by the time Jesus comes back, there's only going
to be like fifty to one hundred million people.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
Left on this earth. Folks. It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Today, I want to talk about war, the red horse
of the Horseman Apocalypse.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
You see it raging all around us right now.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
You see it in the Middle East, you see it
in Europe, you see it in Africa, you can see
it in Asia.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
We're seeing it in the riots in this country right now.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Believe me, the four horsemen of the Apocalypse are running fast,
and the red horse, the horse of war, is tearing
up this world right now. And you know what, folks,
it's only gonna get worse. It can only get worse.
So buckle up. But you might, I might say, cheer up,
because you know it. Jesus is still on the throne.
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And when he comes back with a mighty sword, this time,
he's coming back as a mighty warrior.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
He's going to take out all the bad guys, and.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Then he's going to rule this world for a thousand
years in a time that the world has never seen
or can never even imagine. Peace, total peace, no war,
no crime, no disease, you know, no want, no no poverty.
I mean, it's just going to be wonderful for a
thousand years.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
Folks.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
It's coming and it's coming soon. But before it gets here,
it's gonna get awfully bad. You need a safe house,
you need a bunker. I'll give you a tip, the
greatest bunker you can ever get, greatest, say house, and
I'll give you the name of it.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
The Lord Jesus Christ. Trust him right.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
Now with all your heart, believing that he died for
all your sins, was bread and rose from the day.
If you've never done that before, please do it now.
Don't wait till it's too late. Like the country preacher said,
and like the scripture says, now today is a day
of salvation.
Speaker 3 (53:18):
Well focus.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
It is not time for us to close with the
mine Saint Martin singing a Creole goodbye, and God bless
all out there.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
They call you cel goodbye. They think we're just wasted
out the time.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
All three, Sibley, there's time for a Creo good bye.
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