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September 9, 2025 54 mins
Hy and Christopher take on John Kennedy’s radioactive “alien” shrimp, the lack of decorum in politics, and the New Orleans Mayoral race.

But our main topic has to do with all the talk about Trump sending National Guard units to New Orleans We talk about the history of federal military occupation of Louisiana after the Civil War and Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.

Christopher writes an editorial in The Louisiana Weekly challenging Trump‘s decision to send troops to the Crescent City (outside of a natural disaster) for the first time since April 24, 1877. Ironically, Jefferson Davis would be rolling in his grave at the precedent.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Who's to see the money? Then you don't, there's nothing
to fill the holes? Well, then are feeling their pockets, biles,
the politicians bouncing down the road. Every body's wition with

(00:25):
no moment, corruption and dysfunction. It's gone a date. Divide
it evention.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
The Posse Comma Tatis Act, which was brought up a
lot during the civil rights struggles back in the news,
and it could mean federal troops on the streets of
New Orleans and alien shrimp. That's what John Kennedy is
talking about. Speaking of aliens. There seems to be a
lot of aliens in the New Orleans mayors race. We're
going to talk about the latest polls, and we're also
going to look a little further beyond at the upcoming

(00:53):
US Senate race. Where was Julia Letlow decides that the
LSU president is presidency is not for all this and
more in this edition of The Founder's Show, And.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
God bless you all out there.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
You are now listening to the Founders Show, the voice
of the Founding Fathers. You're Founding Fathers coming to you
deep within the bowels of those mystic and cryptic alligator
swamps of the Big Easy, that old Crescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana,
and high up on top of that old Liberty Star
Press tree draped in Spanish moss way out on the

(01:26):
Eagles Branch, is none other than your Spngary Bubba the
Republic Chaplain Hi mgnry.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
With Christopher Tidmore, your roving reporter, resident radical moderate and
associate editor of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at Louisiana Weekly
dot net. And you know, for most of the twentieth century,
high he says, and pretty much throughout the entire civil
rights struggle, Louisiana governmental officials kind of denied the right
of federal officials to have a rest power in the
Pelican state. Those restrictions on police authority always included the

(01:54):
FBI ATF operatives, different federal Alphabet agencies, and of course
any federal military police deployments. Now this is in Louisiana statute,
but it's also in what's called the Posse Comatatis Act
of eighteen seventy eight. And that this is something that
is really key for Louisiana because you might, if you know,
a little bit of your history, and Hi, you know

(02:15):
a lot of this history. It's called the Civil War
and particularly reconstruction. What was the last state, the last
place to have Yankee occupying troops? Louisiana is particularly New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
In fact, they tried to kill my great grandfather. They
declared him to be Bondidi Sheridan and it was one
of the greatest scandals. They tried to hide it, but
when it came out, he had to flee for his
life because folks would have meant was anybody who saw
him could kill him.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
This is the aftermath of the Battle Liberty Place and
all of it happened. And this was before well it
started before actually, and we can talk about that, but
I want to actually get to the point. So for
those that don't know, there was a major election and
the Democrat actually won the popular vote, and it was
the Republican Rutherford B.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Hayes.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
There were two deli gations, one of them was from
Louisiana others that sent two separate sets of electors to
d C. And they cut a deal and essentially the
Republican Hayes would win the election. However, the last of
the occupying troops would return, never to be able to
return to Southern states without the permission of the governments,
and so immediately this all happens April twenty fourth, eighteen

(03:21):
seventy seven, after Hayes takes office, and immediately a law
is rushed through at the beginning of the next year
called the Posse Comatatis Act. It basically said that states,
you cannot deploy military forces with arrest authority, You cannot
declare someone at banditi. You cannot do any of this
unless the governor of the state has it. Now, if
you've probably been paying attention, Donald Trump deployed a lot

(03:44):
of military assets inside of the District Columbia. The president
has the right to do that because it is a
federal district. It is not a separate state. It is
technically any powers the DC government has have been rendered
by Congress and the executive branch. So he had a
few authorities, one of them being that he's getting him
came in control of the DC police for thirty days,

(04:06):
but he can put military forces in the nation's capital
for as long as he wants his MPs and a
arrest authority. He cannot do that in most states and
where this all came down was in California. A little
over a week ago. The President, if you notice, had
tried to deploy forces and did deploy forty seven hundred
National Guardsmen and members of the Marine Corps to Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Well.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
A senior US judge named Charles Bryer, he's a Clinton appointee,
issued a fifty two page ruling saying, contrary to Congress's
express instruction, federal troops executed the laws. Defendants systematically used
armed soldiers whose identity was obscured by protective armor and
military vehicles to set up protective perimeters traffic blockades. In short,

(04:54):
defendants violated the Posse Comitatus Act. This caused a major
problem for Trump because they are following the law precisely.
The governor did not give you permission. He wanted to
send the next group of soldiers into Chicago. Obviously, Governor Pritzer,
who's one of his biggest critics, did not. Now enter
Jeff Landry for those that don't know what's been going on.

(05:14):
This week, Jeff Landry has his annual alligator hunt, his
big fundraiser for the year, the governor's big fundraiser. Back
when he's Attorney general back when he was in Congress,
was that he has all the major people in politics
in Louisiana. A friend of several friends of mine are
there to go hunt alligators just by the way. So
you know, alligator hunting is the most boring hunting you
could possibly do. You wouldn't think it, but it's really

(05:37):
you just bang them on the head. They're actually quite
stupid creatures.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
I've caught a lot of algas. It's real simple for
he just bade hook. So I'm out there, come back
a few hours later. And it's not everyone, but some
will have alligators. Now that's where it gets exciting.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, you shoot and bang them on the hopefully, No,
you don't bang the that's what they that's what that's
how they do at the Governor's thing when they when
they come into the traps, they just hit him on
the head.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Well you can do that too, yeah, but usually we
would shoot them, but it doesn't necessarily work because they
have little tiny brains and you may miss the brain,
and they're tough animals.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well that's just that's why I think it's a good.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
Thing about an alligator is an alligator has enormous strength
and speed. For about three minutes, so you're liable to
get the ride of your life. It's not always that easy.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Well, they close their mouth with excessive force to capture
everything in and have little idy bitty brains. You know,
for the most part that remasembles many politicians ire but
you know, it really gets he really gets tiring after
a little bit of time.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
So alligators are have the most powerful bite of just
about any animal. You know how all those teeth, Well
those teeth aren't there to cut your leg and your
arm off. They're like little nails. They're to hold you.
But they do cut legs and arms off. And you
know how they do it. The pressure of the bite.
It's like being put in a vice grip squeezing your
arm off.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
That's how powerful.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Alligators have enormous strength and closing their mouths but not
in opening them. So you can hold mouse shut rather
easily until they starts shaking around, and then you allow,
you'll probably lose your group. But the point is they're
very powerful for about three minutes, and then after that
they're dish rag And so what you can do if
you just can hang on for three minutes, uh, And

(07:14):
that's what Jim buy used to do the attack upon
Indians down in kay appolusis Uh taught him how to
wrestle alligators. They would wait for a gator to come
under Nathan, they drop on it, and they ride it
like a bucking bronco.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
And then in three minutes you had your alligator.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
So to the Governor's and annual alligator hunt. In the
midst of all of this happening is that he has
done a three minute solid for Donald Trump, and the
three minute solid is he has agreed that the president
can send military forces into Louisiana, specifically into New Orleans.
And since the governor agrees and it's allowed by the legislature,

(07:49):
it's not a violation of the posse Coomatatas Act. But
the reason why I'm bringing all this up is throughout
the entire civil rights struggle, the whole element, the whole
question of being able to deploy federal assets into Louisiana
was said, if you tried to do, it's a violation
of states rights, the violation of local federalism, it's a
violation of regionalism. This has been a pretty consistent legal

(08:10):
standard in Louisiana going back to reconstruction. In fact, agreeing
to this if you're a purist, if you're really following
the intellectual guide of this, Jefferson Davis is probably rolling
in his grave because you just gave Yankee troops the
right to reoccupy New Orleans. After that, Come on.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
It's their local troops, Chris for their National Guard. We
had them here during Katrina. They did miracles. They work
very I worked very closely. I would we worked very
closely with them.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
I would. I work very close with it, I would believe.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
And the National Guard, our kids, inner city kids love
them because they were great community relations and they did
a great job assisting the cops. Now give they give
the jobs that release to cops to focus more on
the on the.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
First of all, these are not just in support roles
that we've had before. But second of all, I would
point out that this week is also the twentieth anniversary
of the post Katrina event where General Russell Honore came
in and said put down those damn guns. And he
came in and he came in where and he's the
one who made a savement. I've interviewed General Honore multiple

(09:15):
times over the last twenty years and General Honore, who
is a universally respected figure in military circles and post Katrina,
somebody you dealt with and really had positive deliveries with.
He's the one who's come out and said, look, you
do not deploy military assets for policing. For a very
simple reason. And you know this better than anyone. The
military has a different role than police do. The military's

(09:40):
job is to end a threat, a police to just
use the situation.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Military personnel have many different jobs. You have infantry, you
have artillery. Artillery would be of no use just about here,
primarily infantry and military police and the infantry patrol. They
carry guns. I mean it would be I'm not going
to be loaded, but of course you don't tell them that.
And the and they're there just to monitor places and

(10:05):
and that's what they did do in Katrina.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
I worked closely with them.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
I knew them, My kids loved the National Guard when
they were here. They were a real asset and a
plus for this city, and they helped bring there's an
enormous amount of crime after Katraining, nor Orleans was wide open.
Now it was right up into the criminals, and they
did a great job helping the cops and now all that,
I also worked with the FBI shortly thereafter and we

(10:29):
busted the biggest drug dealer in the city of Normals.
I was a confidential informant.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
And now so let me add but let me just
asking this question that was.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
That was federal too, Christ In fact, that radically changed
the new Ormost police arrest record. It was an NPD
that was arresting them, not the FBI.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, that's the whole thing, because FBI under normal circumstances
does not have the power to arrest them and they
have to come along with the authorization NPD.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
State police, so and so forth.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Doesn't strike you just a little bit ironic that almost
coming in at one hundred and twenty three years after
the federal troops and an act that was passed by
Congress saying this is being passed so it never happens again,
particularly in Louisiana. That's because we were the last occupied
forces during reconstruction that the Governor of Louisiana comes in

(11:19):
and welcomes federal occupying troops. Most of these National Guard units,
it's not just Louisiana Guard. They're actually bringing just like
Louisiana sent National Guards troops to the capital for the
whole thing. What they're welcoming in. Let me be very specific,
this is not Louisiana National Guard. In many cases there
will be some, but there are National Guard units from
many other states, just like the DC deployment. So it's

(11:41):
when you say it's just going to be locals, that's
not actually true. It'll be South Carolina and Alabama and
Texas and some of the other units that were part
of the National Guard groups and Louisiana that will be
coming into New Orleans. And I've got to tell you
that there's a side of me as a federalist who's
always said, you know, local control is always best. The

(12:02):
closer to the public, the better the government is. And
it doesn't always work out sometimes you don't. But frankly,
whenever you let the federal government get into anything, the
federal government will screw it up.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
It's the economy, I don't care, it says they basically,
the federal Washington is generally incompetent.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Does the government of New all screwed things up all
the time? Does the State of Louisiana government screw things up?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yes, Chirs. What we've all seen, and that's what I
used to hear. Liberal com screws things up on no
matter what level.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
And that's what I use say, and I agree, but
I but I also used to hear that exact argument
being used by those by liberals in Louisiana, those on
the left saying why the federal government was more effective
for administering things in Louisiana because Louisiana officials that the
governor in saysts were incompetent. And I'm like, I disappoint
I disagree with it then, and I'm disagreeing with the

(12:48):
principle of this now. Frankly, bringing in federal forces is
a terrible precedent. What happens high if the next Democratic president.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
The president has been set over and over and over
again integration segregate, you remember, sen And.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I would point out that here in Louisiana. Part of
the reason why one of the counter arguments that was
used was that it was a violation of the posse
Cooma Tatis Act of of eighteen seventy eight to have
federal rest authority to walk ruby bridges into that school
to do the others here. It's not like this is
a new argument. It is kind of simply like this

(13:24):
entire conversation.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
The governor has to the governor has to authorize it.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
And Jeff Landry has never seen a dictate of Donald
Trump he didn't like. So as he's at his alligator hunt,
he's basically said yes. And I just don't you worry.
If a Democrat was pushing this and we had a democratic.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Call, if they were here cleaning up crime, I love it.
I'd say, my goodness, Democrats aren't so bad after all.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
What if they were enforcing, for example, COVID restrictions or
vaccination restrictions.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Un arrest was a Nazi operation exactly. You gotta look
at the situation.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Christ But no, you gotta let the maximum of your
actually become.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
The use of national guard coming after all hurricanes and
major disasters, I.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Think the Louisiana National Guard does usually that's what we're
talking about.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
No, we're not, No, we're not.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
We're talking about the national guard units of multiple states.
I need to get this clear to you. We're not
just talking to guard. We're gonna have.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
We've got more than enough to come in and do it.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
No more enough we will have as part of this
deployment Texas Alabama, South Carolina, Montana. The same groups that
went to Washington of multiple states will be coming into Louisiana.
This is not just the Louisiana National Guard. That precedent,
even if you think everything they will do is good,
should be scary. If it's taken out, we've got we
are about to have another national occupation of New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Well, Christopher match this Washington is the test case is
how long will the National Guard be there?

Speaker 3 (14:48):
You know it's indefinite right now?

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Well, okay, sooner or later they're not going to be needed,
and that means they're going to be sent home for
a lot of First of all, you can't afford them. Secondly,
at that point, they're just getting in the way and
they know it. So there is will come a time
where they're not needed.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
So Trump has just asked Congress for two billion dollars
for a permanent deployment of National Guard assets from Louisiana,
South Carolina, Alabama, Arkansas, and Texas to the nation's capital
on a permanent basis. That was last week. So I
don't think this is coming to an end anytime soon.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Too much would play itself out. Let's say, what really happened.
We shall see, but we don't want them permanently for sure.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Well, thank you for saying that, because there is no
There is no If they came in and said, look,
we'll have National Guard units for ninety days, I wouldn't
like it, but I'd be like, Okay, that's not too excessive.
That's maybe for an emergency situation. That is not what
is being said, and they are not just Louisiana folks.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Remember there's about Donald Trump. He says some pretty outrageous
things like that's pretty outrageous saying it's indefinitely that they'll
be there, but he.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Never really follows three. He never follows through. I think
he is.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
This is a way he's baiting the Democrats to get
him all riled up and make them look like.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Fools, because they always do.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
They always fall in all the traps they set for
Trump and all the ways they try to attack him.
It always blows up in their faces.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Well i'm gonna agree with you, I'm gonna agree with
you in something. And it really boils down to a
political grade. Democrats have not handled the crime issue at all,
and it's almost tho.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
We have encouraged it that you don't remove police and
say you're going to fix the crime. You don't send
in psychologists to gang bangers.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Please.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
What Democrats at this point have done since Donald Trump
came into office is essentially tried to hide from this
issue instead of saying, look, a couple people have come in. Interestingly,
Eric Adams, the guy who's about to lose the New
York mayors race, has handled it pretty well where he's
come in and said, you know, I actually could use
these forces on a support level. This is what you

(16:57):
talked about. It's background so I can deploy more cops
in the show. And he's about to lose the New
York rais race. If you know, if most Democrats and
cities came out and said, look, we'd love more federal
support because we would need to have more of our
own officers actually containing this, it would be kind of
an answer to the situation you're like, and input would
put Republicans in a difficult political position. That's not what's

(17:18):
going on and either way, nor it's what Republicans are
suggesting that these which is what we had used National
Garden State Police for previously, which was background positions. That's
not what will happen on the streets of Orleans Parish.
Specifically is we will have soldiers MPs in military camouflage
dress on the streets, arresting and bringing people to a

(17:41):
central lock up at the same time that the governor
is turning Angola into a reception for legal immigrants.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
It is kind of a ya. They got alegance. They
got also very dangerous people.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
But my big thing is are we going to take
the police arrest and bring him to the rodeo?

Speaker 3 (17:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Anyway, Folks, when we come back, speaking of the next
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Speaker 2 (23:57):
With Christopher Tidmore and folks, we've got interesting things. We
want to talk about the mayor's race and talk about
the elections, but we got to talk first about alien shrimp.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yes, alien shrimp. Oh my goodness, gross for the world's
coming through it.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
And I keep telling you that maybe this is why
the apocalypse is upon us.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Maybe this is why the military is coming to New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Is alien shrip that's the secret. That's the real reason.
It has nothing to do with our crime. They probably
figured out you can't in New Orleans. You'll never stop crime.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
I hope not.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
But so Louisiana Senator John Kennedy went to the floor
of the Senate and he had these words to say
as he puts out the alien larvae from the movie Alien.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
This is a photograph of the alien.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
From the movie Alien. This is what you could end
up looking like.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
If you eat some of the raw frozen shrimp being
sent to the United States by other countries. So basically,
if you eat frozen shrimp, you will turn into an
alien from Ridley Scott's Alien movies. I mean, this is
hyperbole on a ridiculous level.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
No, but he's getting an important point across, because we
know that the Chinese have already infected us with COVID.
That was a biological warfare operate, yes it was, and
chemical warfare with all the drugs they've been getting over
the border to us. So, folks, this is not a stretch. Now,
of course, we're not going to turn into aliens. But

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you may grow an extra ear, or you may get
sick from it or whatever. Radioactive stuff affects biological things
and it can mess up your DNA, it can make
you very sick. And this bears checking out well.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
And look, I agree radioactive items. The problem is it's
never been proven if this stuff is actually radioactive, well
it has to be proved. No, let me, let me,
let me, let me say this. This is where this
is like the mad cow scare. You remember the mad
cow scare?

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Oh yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
How many cows actually had mad cow disease that caused
the entire heifers of all the Great Britain to be killed?
How many had mad cow disease?

Speaker 3 (26:13):
I've heard not many.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
One okay, one was proven.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
There might have been two or three, but that was.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Pictures of like a dozen of them all stumbling around.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
What I'm getting media?

Speaker 2 (26:23):
You know why John Kennedy gave this speech. It was
a political move because when you most shrimp is frozen,
most is for overseas, and let's phrase it, most of
its Chinese. And the fact of the matter is the
fact of the matter is by going over the top
and fear and making people terrified, who are the beneficiaries
obviously Louisiana shrimp crowers. So this is an old tactic.

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The problem is it's not actually terribly accurate. There is
one one incident, one trace in one package that there
was an impact of radium that leaked into one frozen package.
It was not irradiated, and so it's one of those.
The reason I'm telling you this story is politicians are

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fond of hyperbola to make their case. But it's really
kind of the king of them. I mean, it's just
it's irresponsible.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
It's it's really our Senator Loghorn.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
This is and you mentioned COVID. It's a good example
of how people took a real dangerous situation, but one
that was not as extreme as it could have been,
and blew it into something.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
The Democrats that the media did that the first.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Person to shut down America was President Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Right, because he was advised by a bunch of liberal
Democrats on what he did, and then when he began
to see I was in the air the foolishness of
but he backed out of it, whereas Biden pushed it
really hard, including the vaccination high.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I was on the air with you at the time,
and you thought he was wrong, and you thought it
was very open, and you were smart enough to say
this was going too far at the time.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
So you know it's.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
A reason why Ford the only people at risk. Okay,
well my was my age group. So lock us up,
the old folks and let everybody else go and this
would it wouldn't have been a blunt and on top
of that, dark was a threat. Was four of my
age group died. Okay, here's the thing I was.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I was using a metaphor about about extreme cases. And
I'm gonna and the reason why I'm using this metaphor
your reason, you know, except you went into covid rand.
The reason I said, the reason I said this as
a metaphor is because something happened in the mayor's race
a week ago. Less than a week ago. If you
hadn't noticed, there was a I love how they call

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these people uh TikTok influencer say, is that actually a job?
I mean, yeah, you can make money at it, but
I'm like, that's how you define yourself as with pride anyway.
The person confronts his names his name is Cole. He
confronts Royce Duplessis in church and starts screaming at him

(28:57):
for the for the video coverage of it. And you know,
you can agree or disagree with the political candidate. There's
a certain degree of decorum. You should try at least
to have a debate. If he'd come out and said, look,
I think you're wrong about X, Y, and Z.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
But he wasn't.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
And it's one of the subtexts that's been going on
in the marriage race. And let me just be blunt
about it. Here's the subtext. You have Helena Moreno's people
essentially saying that their's smears coming against her because she's
not black. And then you have Royce Duplessis's people saying
there's spears against him accusing him of criminal conduct, of
which he has literally never been even accused. This is

(29:33):
like ridiculous, and so it's getting really dirty below the surface.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
And here's why it always does gross politics.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
This is you might as well hate humanity because humanity
is entirely played. Yeah, this is nothing. The reason is
right now, as far as I can tell, the last
poll we had showed Helenum Moreno at a firm forty
seven percent, but with not able to get over fifty
percent to win in the first primary. The fifty percent
people that are there are African American professional women and

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Republican voters in Lakeview, white Republican voters. It was pretty
much like saying the same thing most cases, but the
point being that she can't get over the thing, and
those voters are tending to go to Royces Duplessus. What's
happening with Duplessis right now is something as a very
similar campaign that happened. I don't mean to make this comparison.
Royce Duplessis is nothing like Ray Nagan, but it was

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the same thing that happened to Ray Nagan and his
races where he got African American support and Republican support.
If you remember, in his reelection campaign, it was a
very key way of how he came past Mitch Landrew.
It's a very similar situation. And so what you're going
to see in the next coming weeks as this thing
gets intense, is more and more of hyperbola to the
to the ridiculous degree. I mean, who in their right

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mind comes in starts screaming in a church so they
could create video to put it on on the off
chance that the candidate reacts angrily and says, why are
you screaming at my family and my children in this church?
And interestingly Dupless's hand it really brilliantly. He was very
calm about it. He was like, you're really out of line.

(31:04):
You can't do this. This is church, this is my family,
these are my kids. Come on, have a little respect.
But the fact of the matter is I never cease
to be amazed on how people can justify in the
political arena, whether it's John Kennedy or this idiot who
went after always to plus or whatever extreme. Forget undignified behavior.
I don't expect dignity. What I expect is a certain

(31:25):
degree of human decency of like some vague response to
the truth. Not because I'm in this, but because it
comes back to haunt you, because if you don't elicit
the response that you get, you lose all credibility. And
I've got news for you. You know this thing with
John Kennedy, you know the alien shrimp at this our
expectations are so low they're like, of course Senator Foghorn,

(31:48):
Leghorn made a crazy statement. The funny thing is John
Kennedy's a very smart man.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
He's a Rhodes scholar.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
He doesn't sound an actual person at all, like the
caricature of a southern politician he plays on Delaware met.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Him, he did, and he's from the country. The real
country quis for.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
If you talk to John Kennedy personally, he lives in
Saint Tammany Parish.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
He doesn't come off that way up there when Tammany
was real country. Yeah, I'm sorry. When I was there,
I mean it was redneck.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
John Kennedy, it was funny. Yeah, it is not the
accident he used for thirty years.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
Well because he then went in the other which is
where his were more.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Basically political Oxford. Yeah, it's all politics.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
So for those who don't have to fake or train
for that one, he was born with that act.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Now, by the way, for those that listened to our
show last week, which is of course everyone our listening audience,
because the Disappointment Radio. You never miss our show. You
missed the only you heard the only radio televised sheriff's
debate that that has been on so far. Their plans
on one of them. But we had all but one
of the candidates. We had all the major candidates, Michelle

(32:52):
Wood for the former NPD Superintendent Edwin Shorty, the constable,
the current incumbent, Susan Hudson, Judge Julian Bob Murray and
this is the brother of Ed Murray, but he was
a veteran NPD cop. And I've been getting calls about
it and they're like, this was why are they exists?
Because you guys asked some of the best questions. Of course,
we asked the most basic question, why did the breakout happen?

(33:15):
And what could you do? And the number of people
who have called me about it, and says, I mean
it's straight. Susan Hudson says the reason the breakout came
in because she did, was because the locks were broken
and she asked the council for more money. He says,
if I were in charge, wouldn't I have just gone
to the hardware store and gotten a padlock. I mean,
I'd spend my own money just.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
A temporary fix.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, I mean it would work, and it was kind
of But what's interesting is I'm watching it. Michelle Woodford's
in first place you want to talk about her purply.
There was an incident I hate. I almost didn't bring
this up on the show, but it was so extreme.
An email went out and said Michelle Woodford was guilty
of spousal abuse, of a physical abuse of her spouse,

(33:56):
and it went out right before a debate, and then
Susan Hutton and got up and said, Michelle is guilty
of this. By the way, the spouse is, as you
probably know, is not a man. She basically outed her
and whether Michelle's Woodford's you know, gender or whatever it
has been. First of all, she's never been accused her,

(34:18):
you know, her former intimate was like, this is ridiculous.
But it was one of those situations quite literally, when
you're asking, when you ask a politician, when's the last.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Time you beat your wife? Right? And it doesn't matter?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
And Woodford's like, are you this desperate sheriff Putson to
like attack me on something I've never been accused of.
I'm a veteran and OPD cop thirty years on the force, superintendent.
This kind of stuff would have come up just a
few times. And it's it's this sort of attachment to
hyperbola that I watched and I was like.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Oh god, all politicians do it, of every variety just
about No, maybe not Mike Johnson, but he's probably one
of those well behaved and you know, honorable and his
behavior of all of our politicians, but they all use exaggerations.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, we're on the mud constantly.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
You know why they a lot of them don't use
it off the charts. And this is what worries me
because I think the culture is hard to change.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
There.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Every politician used hyperbole. There's I'm not debating your fundamental point,
but they sort of addressed the line. Because once you
cross a certain line, it ricochets back on you.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
You're right, you're right.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
And you know what, Like they say in politics, whether
they're saying good or bad, just as a long as they're
talking about well, but here's I think they play that card.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
I think they're thinking like.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
That, well, but here's and we certainly are right now.
And so maybe they're right. But here's the problem with
the whole theory. One of the things that's happened. Somebody
asked the question, how has Trump managed to have.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
So much political success?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
And this was a Democratic consultant, and he said, you know,
it's interesting. Trump has the ability. Trump has the luxury
that no Democrat or Republican has had previous, sleep that
his base, which is about forty seven to forty eight percent,
is so solid that no matter what he does, no
matter what he says, it doesn't leave him. So he

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can say just about anything and get away with it.
And all he's all we're trying to do in America
is look at the three percent to get to fifty
or whatever close it is, to get the first of it,
and so I actually started thinking about that comment. I
thought it was very insightful because frankly, Democrats, I mean,
you love Trump, hate Trump, you can come out and
I'm not a fan of Trump. As many people in
this audience know, he hasn't failed at many of his

(36:32):
main initiatives. The only ones that actually didn't succeed are
ones that he and his own party kind of sabotaged.
And so pretty much everything he's tried to do, if
you could radically agree, he succeeded to get legislation or
something at least moving on it. And I kept thinking
about this. You know, this is actually what's happened with
politics across the board. It doesn't matter when somebody says

(36:53):
the alien shrip is getting to you, because one side
is going to say he's our guy, Yeah it's alien shrip.
The other guys said this is absurd. But he could
come out and say very legitimately, you know, we have
to really look at shrimp. As radiums come in and
they say and based on the person who's speaking, the
other side would say he must be wrong because of
who's speaking. And it happens now on both sides. You

(37:13):
can't actually have a reasonable conversation on either side on
any issue right now, because frankly, the bases are so
solid and it's no longer I'm right and he's wrong,
or I'm right and she's wrong, or how are you
going to play it? It's I'm right, the other side
is evil, and it's on both sides.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Really, what's happening.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
It's kind of like I hear the words, and I
hear it from both sides. I hear Republicans calling Democrats evil.
I hear democrats calling Republicans evil. I hear one side
calling communists, the other side call him fascists. And guess what,
it's not actually productive for our country.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
No, of course not. But then that's politics. That's why
it's not politics. This is extreme situation. No, I mean
dirty politics. And most look.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Throughout the history of the political world, it's almost always
been dirty wherever you go in the world, throughout history,
there's always been a lot of mud slinging and lying
going on to promote your sign. And that that's why
I hate politics, Chrispher, I just hate that environment. And
now you said, then you must hate the human race.
That's not correct, Christopher. I love the human race. God
loves the human race, but I hate the sin and

(38:21):
politics you might as well call it sin.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
No.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
And you know who thought that, George Washington. He did
not want parties because he knew this kind of garbage
would develop.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Well, actually it wasn't George Washington probably agreed with it. It
was Alexander Hamilton who actually said that. It was the
Federalist papers. Alexander Hamilton, James Madison and John Jay who
wrote in Federalists fifty one about the danger of faction,
which is another word for parties.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
George Washington said it before them, and he did not
like he was wishing. He advised ues, no political parties.
And look, political people didn't listen.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Well, because it's a natural human instinct to organize it.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
And I'm the first one.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
The first presidential open presidential race between Madison, between Adams
and Jefferson.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
The terrible things I said, you can't hardly imagine.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
They said Adams was a royalist who wanted to bring
about kings and Jefferson was a misogynist who had fathered
children on his slaves.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Say it then they said it.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
No, Actually it was in that race. It was the
Sally Hemmings was actually brought up in the in the
eighteen hundred Rays election. It was, it was, it was
after here, it was, it was, it was no, it
was it was, and it was denied and it didn't
come into actual investigation. But no, it was very much
active in that race. Nothing that, nothing's new under the sun.
But I just I do find that the danger in

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all of this, folks, And it's become how Washington is.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
So some people know.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
I have close family members who work as staffers in Congress,
and one of them is an aid.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
I'm not going to bring her.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Up specifically, who's an aide to a senior member of House?
And what's funny is and I'm gonna give my John shot.
We were joking about something and I said, it used
to be part of the reason why in Congress you
had a certain degree of a little bit of decorum
because you had to cut deals. And why deals were
cut more often was because you lived in DC. Your

(40:19):
kids went to the same schools, and you knew if
you chew out someone on the floor of the house,
you're probably gonna see him at your kids.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Football game that night, and you better be kind of nice.
It's not gonna be on. Now.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
What happens is the families live in the district. You
aren't really connected to Congress. It's commuting back and forth,
and you don't really know anybody. In fact, if you
are friends with someone across the party divide on either side,
it's considered suspicious. One of the things I've complimented Troy
Carter for is Troy Carter has a weekly drinks thing

(40:52):
in his office where he has Republicans because people know
Troy Carter is very close friends with Steve Scalies and
with jakeem Jeffers and brings the leaders together and Mike
Johnson and somebody Troy is known for years and the
whole and so he's able to get him to talk.
But it's really one of those situations where we can't
even have conversations anymore, and that ultimately is dangerous as
we're going towards the shutdown clock on the government both sides.

(41:15):
I mean, this has tremendous impacts. This could shut down
the US's credit rating if we don't make a budget
by the thirtieth. We don't of September, and that's yet
we're in this perpetual cycle of heading towards a shutdown
because both sides just scream at each other and can't
actually cut a deal.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
We need a guy like Henry Clay who could make
Congress get along. Our Jefferson Davis who was also a
great compromiser and was able to always so many times
get Congress to work together until he tried to save
the Union.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
He went back to his farming. He's gonna stay there
for the rest of it. They can ultimately in government.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
When you get into ultimate hyperbola, you end up in
a situation where you can't work with the other side
at all. And while there may be winners and losers
in politics, sooner or later, we're not what you end
up with when you go that extreme. To follow your
point is a civil war, because if you cannot, if
you so demonize the other side, sooner or later, them's

(42:15):
fighting words are not a metaphor. On that note, we're
going to go to a quick commercial break, folks. When
we come back, we'll be back with the patriotic and
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Speaker 4 (45:04):
You were listening to The Founder's Show, and it's not
time for us to go into our chaplain by patriotic
moment where we just remind you of the biblical foundations
of our country, our judio Christian jurisprudence. And today I
like to talk about James Madison. We had a lot
to talk about the Constitution earlier in the show. James
Madison is the author. Now he had a lot of help,
but he's considered to be the author of the Constitution.

(45:25):
And you know what he said now, he's also Thomas
Jefferson's student. Jefferson mentored him, he said for the He
said that the Constitution was based on several things and
the concept of the division of powers, you know, the executive,
the legislative, and the judicial branches. He said he was
inspired from the Bible from Isaiah thirty three twenty two,

(45:48):
which says, the Lord is our judge. That's the judicial
the Lord is our lawgiver. That's the legislative branch. The
Lord is our king, and of course that's the executive branch.
He will save us, Jeffson. Madison really believed that God
was going to have to save us if we were
going to be saved it all, and that he was
a foundation. And he also said this that without the

(46:11):
Ten Commandments being used, understood and used by the people,
then the Constitution will have no effect on our country.
He's saying, it's we the people who have to be
strong in our morals for the Constitution to work. And
he gave us tomorrow code the Ten Commandments. Maybe that's
why it's on top of the Supreme Court. Maybe that's
why it's on the gable end. On the freeze is

(46:34):
Moses with the Ten Commandments with everybody looking to him
like that's the key to it all. And then on
the doors again you have the Ten Commandments. And then
on the inside behind the Supreme Court judges that there
where they sit at their bench behind them is the
Ten Commandments. That's how much our finding Fallows believed that
that was so important for us. So, folks, once again,

(46:55):
you can see so clearly the biblical foundations of our country.
Our Judeo Christian jurisprudence. Madison meant business. He really believed
that God was what was going to make America great.
And you know, folks, we're all trying to make America great. Well,
many of us are want to make America great again,
right the maga folks, And I want to folks. I
don't care how hard we work and how good it

(47:15):
might get, it's gonna it's not really going to end
up going anywhere in the end if we don't put
God back in our country. It has to be we
the people, not the government. The government should honor this,
but it's really we the people. We the people make
up this country. Madison even said that there's no king
in America except for we the people. He declared every
American citizen to be a king. That's how the gravity

(47:39):
that is upon us to really make our country work
and make it great, it has to come from the
little guys, we the people, and we do that with God.
And never forget it, folks. All right, So but what
about you? It's God big in you? Where you with
all this? Because you know, you could be the greatest
biblical patriot that ever lived. But if you died and

(47:59):
went to Hell, well what good would it do you?
It would do you no good. So, folks, I want
to tell you how that want. You don't have to
go there. You can go to heaven. You can be
born again, born again means you're dead and dyn spirit,
because you're in a state of death. According the Bible,
of your spirits made fully alive. And it becomes fully
alive when you put faith alone in Christ alone, the
Holy Spirit comes into your spirit, and all of a

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sudden your spirit is resurrected into everlasting, eternal resurrection life
the moment you believe in Jesus and what He did
for you for all of us. So it goes like this, folks,
what we have to do. The scripture says, a gospel
is the power of God unto salvation to whosover believes.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
And the scripture tells us what the gospel is.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
In First Queen and fifteen, he says that Jesus he said,
for I declared to you the gospel that Christ died
for all of our sins according to scripture, that he
was buried, and that he rose from the dead. According
to the scripture, that's the simple gospel. It's easy. Everybody
can get it, even children. In fact, Jesus said, unless
you come as a little child, you shall in no
wise entering need the faith of a little child. To
believe with all your heart. The only way you can

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believe with all your heart is. If you repent, well,
that means that you're not trusting anything else. You're not
trusting in your religion, your wealth, your charm, whatever you
got going all your religious behavior, it might be really good,
but that won't get you into heaven, because the scripture says,
all of our righteousness is as filthy wraves. God's standards
are way behind the beyond the very best of us.

(49:26):
I don't care how good you are. His standard of
righteousness is so far ahead of that. So forget it,
give up, let go, and let God. When you let go,
you just repented. You just believed you couldn't save yourself,
that you're damned going to an eternal hell without God.
You have to realize you cannot save yourself. Only God
can do it, and He's done it for you. He

(49:47):
offers it to you as a gift, a free gift.
We've been saved by grace. That word means gift. We've
been saved by grace through faith. And even that is
not of ourselves. It is a gift of God, not
of works than any mans both. So all your good
works with turn from your sins does you no good.
That's not part of your repentance, your penance, to believe
that you cannot turn from your sins enough to please God.
You can only trust Him. And the moment you do that,

(50:09):
split second you do that, the next step is so
simple then, and everybody seems to get it. The Holy
Spirit's right there work in your heart trying to get
you to understand and believe. And the next step is
then just to believe that only he can, that he did,
and that He will save from a burning hell and
guarantee you every lasting life because He died for all
your sins, was bred and roseam the dead. If you've
never done this before, please folks, do it now. Like

(50:30):
the old contry preacher said, don't wait till it's too late,
and like the Word of God says, now today is
the day of salvation. Well, folks, you need the day
of salvation because something's coming up on us that's going
to be awfully apocalyptic.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
I'm talking about alien shrimp.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
Alien shrimp got bad, and I'm talking about the end
the apocalypse, the end of this age. When Jesus comes
back for the last seven years, all hell is going
to break loose on this earth. The four horsement of
the Apocalypse is going to be charged all around the earth,
bringing every kind of disaster and misery and human tragedy.
It's going to be so bad that by the end,

(51:06):
at the end of the last seen years and could
be somewhere between fifty to one hundred million people left
in the entire planet. The Antichrist is going to be raging,
trying to kill. It's gonna be like Hitler, you know,
mass murdering everybody, or style and all of them combined.
It's going to be bad, folks. It's going to be
really bad. And there are so many signs there, over
two hundred signs about natural disasters, about famines, about for

(51:26):
the first time they've been reporting famines in fact, in decades.
For disease, remember COVID. But they're even worse diseases on
the horizon right now. So, folks, this is real the end.
All the signs of the end are here. There's so
many of them. I wish I had several hours to
go over them all because there's so many. They're so fascinating,

(51:47):
and it's impossible for all that to come together at
the same time.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
That's one of the signs.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
They all have to appear at the same time, not
one one hundred years ago. We've been having famines and
wars for time, and it's got to be a lot
more than that. It's got to be all of them
happening at the same time, like the Jews back in
the land, rebuilding the temple, sacrificing that red heifer, and
so many things. What about knowledge increasing, Well, knowledge didn't

(52:14):
begin to increase till about five hundred years ago. And
it's solely, but surely now knowledge is doubling every hour.
I believe it is. That's a biblical prediction for the
end times. It's all here, folks, It's all here. So
I don't know where you are and all this, but
you better pay attention. You better be thinking about it.
And you need a bunker now because the tribulations will
be a terrible time. You need a safe house. And

(52:36):
the greatest safe house you can ever get, the greatest
bunker you'll ever find, is none other than the Lord
Jesus Christ himself. Take him as your mother, hen, if
you will, he said, I'm like a mother. Hen I'm
going to cover you with my wings and the eagles
can't get to you. I'm gonna protect you from the predators.
Go to him right now, take him as your safe house,
as your bunker. And I assure you, God, assure you

(52:56):
forget me. The Bible assures you you will make it,
will survive the things that are on the horizon for
us right now, meaning the end times, the apocalypse for folks.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Thank you so very much. It's not time for us
to close.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
As we close with the Mond Saint Martin singing a
creole goodbye and God bless all out there.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Does this have to be the end of the nerd?

Speaker 3 (53:21):
You know I love you.

Speaker 6 (53:22):
In the pamal Land, I can.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
See across the million stars.

Speaker 6 (53:31):
When I look at it, we can mosey. It's the
sun time. I suppose you couldn't.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Call Little Cras if we take it just a longer
to see our con
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