Veep Peep: Kamala Harris Steps In, JD Vance Hits The Trail

Hy and Christopher take on the state of the Vice Presidential estate in today’s show, examining in depth both the man seeking the number two job under Trump and the current number two seeking the top job— in the wake of President Biden’s exit from the race.

Christopher challenges Hy to say something critical about JD Vance and something nice about Kamala Harris. It’s a struggle for Hy, but he pulls it off! We discuss the implications of the Republicans not taking social conservatives seriously enough, particularly on abortion, and we postulate if the Democrats have transformed themselves into happy warriors? Will Kamala Harris’ positive attitude cause campaign challenges for Trump?

Along the way, we talk about both JD Vance’s and Kamala Harris’ books. Christopher clears up some misconceptions about “Hillbilly Elegy” (in a positive sense), and we talk about “The Truths We Hold” and the importance of grandmothers, soul food, and stepmotherhood.  By the way, both books are available at The Garden District Book Shop.

In the second segment Hy makes a major national announcement: Brexit for Louisiana? Christopher and Hy argue the constitutionality. Do the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments allow, or does the post-Civil War change in the status of citizenship— of the United States rather than of the individual states—legally make such a concept impossible?

Hy concludes the show with the story of one of the greatest missionaries who ever lived in the modern era. Imagine a child of British aristocratic privilege who gave up everything to spread the gospel in China, India, and Africa — the last in his 80s!

Episode Transcript

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filling their pockets by holes. Thepoliticians bouncing down the road. Everybody'sition.

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No moment, corruption and itysfunction.It's gone to day, divide it avention
the state of the vice presidential estate, the current vice president running for president
and the new vice presidential candidate,Harris versus Vance good and bad. We
both Hi and Christopher both looking attoday's show. And the question of Louisiana

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brexitt is secession a legitimate political choice? Well, a new press release that
I will talk about ponders the questionof Louisiana taking the stand of is brexit
or is it secession a less ofa war? We'll talk about that and
more. And this edition of theFounders Show with the state of the Union

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and the Constitution tenth Amendment and thesovereignty of Louisiana at stake. And this
is Chaplin, High McHenry, andGod bless you all out there. You
are now listening to the Founders Show, the voice of the Founding Fathers,
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Louisiana, and high up on topof that old Liberty cypress tree draped in
Spanish moss, way out on theEagles Branch is none other. Then you
have Spingary Baba, the republic ChaplainHi McHenry with Christopher Tidmore. You're wroteing
reporter, resident radical moderate and associateeditor of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at Louisiana
Weekly dot net. And folks,of course, the state of the race.

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You remember there was a movie calledNine Days, Seven Days in May.
Well, this was nine days inJuly. We go from a an
attempted presidential assassination to a presidential Well, is it resignation if you're designing as
a candidate, but you get nicewalking of the plank? It was walking
of the plank? Well, AndI got to say in that effing in

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Last Wednesday Nights it's such a loser. Of course, Well, in last
Wednesday Night's address from the Oval Officeand the resolute texts, what was interesting
is, unlike lbj's address in nineteensixty eight, who said the reason why
he wasn't running was to concentrate onthe war. Joe Biden didn't actually give
a reason at that. He didgive a reason two weeks before in the
presidential press conference when he was askedthat you know, everybody focused on the

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fact that the only way he'll dropout of the race is Almighty told him
not to. Well, he said, actually in the presidential press conference,
not in the Stephanopolis interview, JoeBiden came out and said, well,
yeah, the only way I'd dropout of the race is if I couldn't
win. Well. The night before, two of his most senior aides went
to runabouth, Delaware, to hisbeach home as he isolated for COVID.

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And I think the man got COVID. I think for the doctor's life so
much. But why would you lieabout something like that for a time out
so he can reorganize to make surehe stays in his president And maybe because
they forced him to get COVID wellso that they could spend time working him
over till he finally Well, misterconspiracy theory, here's the problem with that.

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He was supposed to everywhere because youhave no, yeah, and most
of them are nonsense that I canI say this when he got the quote
when the diagonos of COVID, hewas going to speak in Las Vegas before
the probably most important Hispanic organization inDemocratic party politics. So the problem for

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those that said he you know hedidn't actually get COVID. I'm like,
you don't pass up that speech ifyou're planning on running for president. The
question though, that did happen astwo of his senior aides went to him
by every press account and said,here are the numbers you can't win,
of course, and uh, youknow it's already know it at that point,
I don't think he really. Ithink Christopher, he's depending on stealing

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the election like you did the firstfirst time. Yes he did. I'm
sorry, Hi, yes he did. Now that's another host. So we're
going to have to do that show. Yeah, it really. And soon
before the election, they're they're alreadtrying. Here's how you know it's not
There are emails going out for theR and C. There's say vote early,
vote, do your mail in voteof course, and then what they

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do, christ well, now arethey actually have to do what they didn't
do? In twenty twenty, whichis get people to remote Christopher. But
there's so much evidence that the electionwas stolen. Now we can't go into
all of that right now, nowknow that, So let's just hold off.
Let's hold off with that. Yeah, let's hold off that because one
thing we want to do is,of course, the Republican Convention introduces JD
Vance and the Democratic Convention will butwell before it by August seventh, will

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bring us a vice presidential candidate.But right now, what we're really doing
is the country is being reintroduced.That's pretty much the political strategy with Kamala
Harris and what I have charged highHi and I have decided that we're going
to try to say something nice aboutboth candidates and critical. And here's this.
This one's actually good. That's good. Yeah, this one's easy.

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That's fair. That's fair, that'sfair. We're a fair and bounce on
fair show, folks, Fair andbounced, never forget it. So this
is actually easy for me because Intelruthalways teligrance. Well, I have had
some real help as God. Canyou can I finish? You get the
whole point? Here? Can Imaggating that out of your right neck?
Chris, that's all right, It'sall right, So I'm all good.
I'm going to start off with Jadvansand saying, you know, a couple
there are some democratic myths about JD. Vance And let me let me say

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something very definitively. I have actuallyfollowed Jdvans's career since he started writing for
National Review really back in twenty thirteen. Wow, I had met him a
couple of times and had been deeplyimpressed. And remember twenty sixteen when He'llbillyology
is coming out. He is anever Trumper. He is very high a
criticism of Donald Trump. So whenI'm what I'm saying on all of this

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is that's why you loved him,Christopher. No, it's not right because
actual because I met him. Butno, I met him. I met
him long before Donald Trump looked likea realistic candidate for president. You know
what I was impressed by It washe had started Kevin Williamson had recruited him
to write for National Review. Forthose that know, Kevin was not the
editor of National Review, and that'sa super conservative magazine. I think most

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people know what National Review is reallyreally, I'll take it more for it.
It is the is the sine quonnine of people don't know it's a
sine quon none of a conservative intellectualthoughts by William F. Buy and talk
show guys. And I read NationalReview every week. It's published a few
of my stuff over the years.And and so I I became familiar with

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JD. Vance. I knew Buckleyby the way I met him's gun.
Oh really, I met him acouple of times, but I can't say
I really knew him. I didn'tknow him close up and personal, but
you know, I know met himanyway. So uh, he had a
great party at his house in Connecticutonce. Anyway, that's another story.
But uh, when I'm when I'mtelling you kind of the tale of what's
going on, folks. When Imet Jadie Vance, I met him really

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through his work. I did actuallyphysically meet him. And you know,
he had this book that one ofhis professors at Yale had encouraged to write
his story, which is Hillbilly Ellergy. But Hillbilly Llergy is an interesting book
insofar as it doesn't just tell hisstory. It talks about the Scott's Irish
culture and where it came from andfor those people Hill bill is a redneck.

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Well, no they are. Younever insult a hillbilly by calling a
redneck. Chris, time out,Chris, for I was ordained in a
redneck church. My pastor probably introducedhimself as a red knick. I know
a lot, and I went,I was in a redneck ended up in
Jackson, Hissippi. Almost everybody Mississippi, and they would proudly call themselves rednecks,

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and they love to tell redneck jokes. So I know that sometimes it's
used in a next way. I'mtelling I'm telling us, but us I'm
an iron rednick. Okay, Hi, right, you're missing what I'm saying.
Hi, can I say something?You're missing what I'm saying? Well,
you interrupted me. You're missing whatI'm saying. A hillbilly is a

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very distinct thing they would say,and then a red neck. And I'm
not put a red neck down.It's a different culture. My point being
in all of this is he talksabout the positives and negatives within within the
Scots Irish culture. There's a greatinterview from the Humor Institution called Uncommon Knowledge
that took place two weeks before thetwenty sixteen election, and it's interesting because

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they're talking about hillbillyology. They're alsotalking about the election, and jd.
Vance is offering some very brilliant analysiselection, and he's basically explaining why people
from his background, from those thathail from Appalachia. His grandparents came from
Jackson, Kentucky and moved to Middletown, Ohio. No, it's and let

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me explain that in said, becausethat's actually to come up in a moment.
They moved there to to pursue jobs. And he talks about cross the
river. Is cross the river toOhio. It's not from Jackson to Middleton.
It is about an hour and ahalf. It's it's it's it's not
too far, but it's it's far. It's like going from here to bad
room, big deal. It's morelike if you really had to do,
it's more like here to laugh yetbut it's not. Yeah, it's almost

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it's almost two hours away. Sobut the point I'm getting at is it
is a world apart from Jackson,Kentucky. But the world came sort of
with and he talks about sort ofthe chaotic growing up the way he did,
the positives and the loyalty of peoplein an addictive home, a tragic
home situation. Well, his motherwas just like my kids, his mother
and minister. His mother went throughfifteen. They called him Dad's until he

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was age fifteen when he goes toThere's a Drunk and a heroin addict.
It was a nightmare, heartbreaking story. And he talks about him at fifteen
going to live with his grandmother,who he calls his angel and Mamma,
Mamma, mamma, But Mamma isher own experience. She's the open the
opening of Hillbilly Allergys Grandma, well, the opening of Hillearly Ellergy is a

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is a story which is her husbandand malice in his jd Vance's grandfather kept
coming home drunk and her she said, if you come home drunk one more
time, I'm gonna set I'm gonnaI'm gonna kill you. She even set
him on fire one and well,that's the point, and he writes the
story in the book that she putpoured gasoline on set him on fire and

(10:26):
they managed to survive. In thewhole works, but saying that it was
very deliberate, and he actually tellsthe story. He says one of his
cousins came to his aunts came tohim and said, j D, I
think you got the story a littlewrong. And he's all nervous. He
put it in the book. Hesaid, no, it wasn't gasoline.
It was lighter fluid. Ye,right, it was lighter fluid. But
the point is it was also thesame woman who got him. He was

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hanging out with some bad kids,including a kid who was a drug dealer,
basically, and that's what happens tomy kids. It's always wrong.
It's very interesting that there's so manyparallels to nineteen sixty with a president dropping
out with a vice president coming in. And one of the parallels is in
nineteen sixty eight, doctor Martin LutherKing giving a speech and talking about poor
black kids, poor you know,Native America. He called him Indians and

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poor kids from Appalachia in the speech. And they're the parallels that exist.
Is very d Jady Vance's career.He's he's a very deeply it's not coming
off quite as well in his campaigning, but he's a very deeply. He's
a big thinker. He's a verydeeply intellectual candidate, and he's someone he's
he gets accused of being a fakekill billy because he grew up in Ohio.

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That's Andy Basheer's line. And myfriend Curtis Robinson, who grew up
in eastern Kentucky, is truly identifyas the hill billy will say it,
but I get where he's coming from. He's very clear in the book he
said that my hometown is Middletown,Ohio. My home I still think of
is my great grandparents' home in Jackson, Kentucky. And he got married there

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and he's going to be buried therewith his ancestors. And that, I
mean, that's in the convention speech. I say all of this because Jadie
Vance has come down on the leftwith a lot of criticisms, some he's
brought on himself. I mean,and I'll give you one. I'm going
to be a little critical of himon this point. He said, you
know, the part of the problemAmerica is we got these cat ladies who

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don't have children coming in and whatand he mentions my name, Kamala Harris.
This is from a twenty twenty oneinterview, So this is before is
VP and what is unfair about thatin Kamala Harris's case is she married her
husband when his daughters, his kidswere very young, and she raised them
as a stepmother. And you know, being a step father, it's a

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very difficult job because you're being aparent. I give, I say it's
difficult in with respect. It's you'rehaving to you you are a parent,
yet you are not a parent,and you're in a very so for that
not to say that to accuse KamalaHarris of not having worked and raised kids
from when they were I think likeeight ten, so like that when her

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when she married biological children, Noshe doesn't, okay, but she's forgive
me if I'm bringing this up.You have two wonderful daughters who were not
your biological children, but you playeda major role and raise it. But
you know, I didn't know.I did not. That's incorrect. They
were in college, they were wellcoping out of it and growing on their
own. They weren't in the house. But I've become very good friends with

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them. Now that was a struggle, but you know what, it's worked
out just fine. Well, Kamala, her husband's kids were much younger than
that. So Kamala Harris, soI thought that criticism of JD. Vance
was a little unfair just because shedidn't have it. She raised little kids
who call her their nickname for heras Mamla. I mean it's they call

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her that. No, So there'sa lot there is criticism, legitimately they
can be made of JD. Vance, and I'm curious to hear a legitimate
criticism and some compliments you have ofhim as a candidate. I will say
that, while I disagree with himvery ardently on Ukraine and Taiwan and America's
role in the world, I actuallyhave read enough of his background, not

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just He'll Billy ellergy, but hiscolumns to see that his foreign policy positions
are a lot more nuanced than arecoming out in this I am not a
fan of Trump, but I'll tellyou I feel better with JD. Vance
whiles other people feel worse, allright, Having said breaking that, Having
said that, having said that,I just said, I do believe at

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some level he doesn't add a lotpolitically to the ticket as much as Trump
would like, because one of thethings that Trump has to do is if
and this was not to some extentnot his fault, because he thought he
was running against Joe Biden. EverybodyBiden thought he was running against Joe Biden
was that he was trying to designa candidacy that would work against Joe Biden,

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and that's inspiring voters and apple Issiato come in. Two weeks ago.
JD. Vance was a really goodpick. Now he's an okay pick.
But what's happened in the interim isKamala Harris has I've watched this in
the Democratic side, allgy, youdon't have to believe what I'm saying,
but I'm telling you that enthusiasm forKamala Harris has gone through the roof.
And I'm talking about tomla On onthe on the progressive left, so you

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don't. You don't have to agree, of course with m because she's the
most extreme liberal ever. Before weget to Kamala Harris, I need a
criticism of Commedy. I know he'sgonna be hard for high to say something
nice about Combinus about a couple ofokay, But before we get to her,
I want to hear your analysis.I want to hear some criticism of
J. D. Vance on him, but I also say what you think

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about him. As you say you'vesort of watched him since you didn't really
know his background, but you havekind of watched him in the last year
or two in politics. What doyou think, Well, the first time
I ever saw him, which isreally just a couple of years ago,
you've known him a lot longer orknown about him and studied him, was
that he seemed like a really greatguy just the way I heard him talk.
And I was very excited that wehad a young, strong constancy conservative

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in the Senate and brand new notnot Uh had owed, no, did
not owe his soul to the companystores or to the political system. You
know, once they've been in therefor a while, they're not their own
people anymore. They become whoores andthey're going to do what they're told to
do. When you get a newguy in, he has they haven't got
their their talents in him yet.And he doesn't really owe anybody, he

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doesn't owe favors, et cetera.And so that's a wonderful thing that he's
new. He's new to politics,just like Trump was new to politics.
Same situation. Uh, neither neitherman got themselves so compromised and under the
control of big brother government that andbig Brother corporation that they you know,

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they have more freedom to do what'sreally the right thing for we the people
instead of big brother corporation and bigbrother government the deep state in other words,
And so so you want to criticizethem right now? Yeah, you
actually asked me what I knew abouthim? By the way I read,
I got Hillbilly Allergy. It's ait's a best on book. It's fabulous.

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Also, I saw the movie.The movie's fantastic, and he's my
kind of man. I'm sorry.I love the guy to death. I'll
go into that later, but rightnow I need to find criticism. And
the best I can find about anycriticism for him is that when he's a
little boy, he seemed like he'sjust a little too fat. I don't
like I think the fat kid godshould should be. But he couldn't help

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that because his family life was adisaster. But no, there's more to
it than that. And look atthe man. He's a marine, hardcore
tough guy. Uh, you know, a mountain of muscle and bone and
sind you and big tall fella justlike Trump. And also but the thing
that really, all right, arey'all for me with a libertarian movement?
All right? I love the Libertarians. I could be a libertarian, but
there are things about them that arejust too extreme and I could not go

(17:45):
with and I have debated with him, and I won't go into all the
details on that, but they're reallybasically great people. They're constitution conservatives.
We agree on a whole lot.And I kind of see him like that.
He's got some some political philosophy thatmay be just a little too extreme
for me. Uh and man,my political fossing maybe too extreme for him
in certain cases. In certain case, I actually think, I think you're

(18:07):
hitting on something important and it's it'skind of a bigger move within the Republican
Party. We teased a couple ofmonths ago when we talked about you know,
Trump and this, here's what J. D. Evans is not.
Well, he's a believer, andhe is a Christian. He's a he's
a Catholic convert, but he wasa Christian before that thanks to well his
mamma. Yeah, he grew upin Actually they didn't say, they won't.

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I really want to find it.Was that a Baptist he talks about
he talks about in the book Okay, what was it was? It was?
It was a Methodist church. AppleAsha tends to be a heavily Methodist
area. If you feel a Baptists, yeah, there are a lot of
Southern Baptists. But if you lookat if you look at a culture,
and actually did this this week,it was kind of funny. There's only

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one state in the Union where Methodistsare the biggest religion. It's West Virginia
really, and every other every otherstate it's either Southern Baptist, Catholic or
in the case of like out ofa Utah and Idaho, it's it's it's.
The reason for that is because backwhen the Methodist Church was starting there,
they had magnificent evangelists and some ofthem actually were Baptists who were getting

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involved with the Methodists, weren't evena church at the time of a movement
and then finally became a denomination.But no, but he so they were
great evangelists, I mean some ofthe greatest evangelists in American history. And
they just stomped up and down anappalations. And those are George conversions and
in Appalachia for those who joining him. Henry Christopher Tidm on The Founder Show,
we're talking about uh we called itthe estate of the VPS and Jdvan's

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being named and the VP being namedthe presidential candidate. We're talking, we're
challenging Hi to say something critical ofJD Vance and positive of Kamala Harris.
We're getting that part that should befun. But no, but I want
to. I want to when Ialready did something critical and no, no,
no, I'm following what you're saying. You know I would say something
good on Kamalainy. I'm struggling withthat, folks. I'm struggling. So

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I know I'm going to find something. Pray for me, Pray for me,
all right, But I want to. I want to hit on one
thing that's true of JD. Vance. And I'm going to say this very
You're you're hitting the point about thelibertarian. He's somebody. I'm very libertarian
in my act. I I tendto people are like, you're the left
and he's the right. Now it'smore like the social conservative, more like
the traditionalist conservative versus the libertarian neocon. But the fact is JD. Vance

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is more libertarian. And where you'regoing to find a manifestation of this as
soon as Trump is on the abortionissue. One of the things that has
changed and it's very clear out ofthis convention with the change in the platform,
is the fact that you will seeabortion effectively under US policy in the
Trump administration legal for the first twelveweeks, because Donald Trump has said it

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over and over and over again,and it's a smart political move if it's
not as long as it's also somethingsocial conservatives are poor. Is the fact
that he will keep Miller Pristoe theabortion pill legal right and available in every
state in the Union, and soand jd Vance is pretty much when he
comes to culture war issues, it'snot about abortion. He is not going

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to be somebody who's going to belike Mike Pence, you know, and
praying in the Oval office, andneither both of them are. You know,
I got to take Trump at hisword that he's you know, he's
a believer. I don't question well, I mean I don't. I'll take
him as his word. My question. I do believe jd. Vance from
the stuff I've read, is ais a thoughtful Christian. He's a Catholic

(21:29):
convert. He spent a lot oftime in a Hindoo family, right and
so his his wife they celebrate Dwalias well as Christ as they celebrate the
kids are But the point I'm gettingat is the Republican Party, here's a
legitimate policy thing, is about toeject a lot of its social conservative wing.
And here's why it's not going togetting rid of them in the sense

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that it's deemphasizing that in the platform. And here's why part of its abortion
part of it is the next generationof social conservatives aren't really church attenders.
And there's an interesting analysis of this. Some people who voted, like for
a Christian county for president, havenot been to church in at least twelve
to twenty four months. Chris,So, that's one of my that's swan
song you've heard maybe y'all have heardme say this on the show. Christian

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in America is nose diving right now. It's we're in a desperate state of
collapse. About thirty years ago,seventy percent of evangelicals and church going folks,
you know, Catholics, whatever,seventy percent went to church. It's
down to twenty percent now church attendance. And guess what when kids graduate from

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high school who've been raised in whateverchurch, it is ninety five percent of
them after they graduate from high schoolnever go back to church again. That's
extremely dangerous. That means we're youthlosing our youth and they are the future.
So the state of the church isin a desperate state right now.
Anyway, I missed the original questionyou asked about where he grew up.
His grandmother took him to a localMethodist church. What church in what church?

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And that What I was going tosay was, he writes about the
fact of the deteriration of Protestant Christianityand in communities, right and the reasons.
No, No, here's what heputs at his reasoning. He said,
one of the things that happened hiscommunities became poor is they were less
able to support the community church.And so the community churches start and it

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was a very thoughtful analysis, starteddying and got it replaced by the megachurches.
And he says, I'm not makinga criticism of the megachurch on this
and that general I do, Christopherand I had that whole story he talks.
He I got it down. Iknow it blames a lot of the
degradation on the local level amongst hisyou know, his hit what he calls
his hillbilly relatives, Scott's irish thatthere's not the local church that's involved.

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That the megachurch basically was too faraway for most people to go to.
So while it thrived and it madeall this money and had all these great
programs, and he says, andit does a lot of great things,
it actually was one of the causesfor the degradation and deterioration of operational Christian
Oh, there's no question I've saidthat for you. I know the whole
story, and that very very well, folks. What happens. They created
these country club churches. They basedit upon a Wall Street guru who took

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over the churches with saddle backed churches. One of the great examples of that
with a Warren there and Rick Warrenand it with the idea was use all
of the methods of modern business,especially sales, to raise the membership in
the church. You know. Wards, they went to the world's way of
doing things instead of the Bible andthe Bible for business to do that.

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But they did anyway, and guesswhat, they built megachurches. But in
the meantime, think of this,folks, remember this throughout Christendom the backbone,
especially the Baptist Church. I knowthis with this, But all the
churches, the backbone of the churchare always the small churches. They do
the heavy lifting. They provide ninetypercent of all the funding for the for
the you know, church, forthe and the headquarters and all that,

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the hierarchy whatever you know in thiscase, the Southern Baptist Convention, the
missionary movements, everything, they're theheavy lifters. They're the main players.
You never hear about them. They'rethe're unsung heroes, but they're the ones
who are really making Christendom work.Not the big churches, and they're good,
but they're not really the key players. It's the little ones. And
so what happened was they would createthese giant country club churches with malls and

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everything you can think of, andso the guys in the little churches are
look at ooh, look at that. Isn't that fun. Let's go there.
They got a good gym, theygot this, and next thing you
knew, they were sucking all themembership out of the small churches. Small
churches collapsed about over whatever. Ithink it's two thousand churches a day are
closed, I mean a year areclosing their doors right now. Okay,
so they basically kill the small church. And then guess what happened all the

(25:33):
folks that went to the big churches. They began to realize, you know,
this isn't really spiritual. Is Ican get this? I have more
fun at my local country club.Well, I'm i hanging out here.
So then now the big churches arestarting to collapse, and these brand new
big mega churches are all starting tocollapse, not all of them, but
many of them. And the sumtotal is Christianity America is in a terrible
nosedive. It is in a deathspiral right now. So anyway, that

(25:57):
just playing with christmaers interesting. Andlet me let me start off since and
we're gonna give Kay a second tothink about you think about his response the
other major element that happened before wego to the break, because I want
to get this stuff about Kamala Harris, how is the you know, for
those who joining hy McCann and Christophertim More, we're talking and you gotta
say something, but let me,let me, let me, let me

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talk Kamalama Kamala. Yeah, andand for those that don't know, you
know this, this is interesting.JD. Vance's wife is of you know,
her parents are of Indian descenter fromGujarat. Kamala is half Indian,
and she claims a lot of herAfrican American nests. You know her her
connection black culture by her upstairs neighborwho took her to the local black church

(26:41):
when she grew up in Oakland.And she said, and she and actually
Canada, that's not for good canwell, she was. She's talking about
when she grew up in California andher when they moved California. She was
young, she was like eight,she was. She was young. And
the reason if you read her book, and I read Kamala's book, which
is actually a very fascinating biography,it is available. Both books are,
by the way, are available atthe Garden District Bookshop. I gotta put

(27:03):
into the phone. Both books areavailable. And one of the things both
Hilbert aalogy and h tells my motherdoes. She talks about what she called
She talks in the book of hermom's the female influences in her life.
But she said, of these,the most important one was the lady who
ran She run the daycare downstairs underthe apartment where Kamala and her mother lived

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and upstairs lived. And she saidshe was the lady who took her in
hand, took her to church everyweek, taught her how to cook soul
food, taught her and she said, for a black woman learning how to
cook is kind of She talks very, very beautifully about this is a transitional
moment, that that connection to theprevious generation, the wisdom that gets passed
on is I mean, this isgoing to sound a little sexist, but
it's a very big thing amongst femalesin general, not just African American females.

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And she talks beautifully about this andthe influence of education and so forth.
And the thing that's I got Ibring up to the conservative listeners on
this cone absolutely hate Kamala Harris.At least give her credit on this just
for a second. One of theunfair criticisms I gave you an unfair criticism
of J. D. Advance,This whole thing about the right and all
this that wasn't true if you reallyhave read him. The thing that's not

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true abou Kamala Harris is when peoplesay she's unqualified. Now, let me
say this for a second. Thisis a woman who's District Attorney of of
San Francisco, who's Attorney General ofCalifornia and a United States Senator. And
she has been in an office threetimes as long as Donald Trump and JD.
Vance combined. Now that's a goodwell, maybe that's not a good

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sign. But to call her unqualifiedis not We got to finish. I
will bet common, I'll watch.He's not quite. But I can't do
it now because I got to say, watch, find something good about it.
You're okay, So that's what I'masking. My point being, she
has she has brought life to theprogressive uh uh base of the party in

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radical all the way African Americans whoturned out to vote, who got Obamba
elected. But now this is themoment up. They're black, just that
reason. That's I know. Theydon't have to be qualified her and they
just got to be black. That'sa qualification. Okay, what is not
even really black? That's that's wrongexcept and this has been half andyan and
her African side may be only ten, one eighth or one sixteen. It's

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not from Jamaica. That's not true. It's true true, it's bladded.
But the point I'm getting her ancestto Jamaica was one of the largest slave
owners in Jamaica. Remember that,folks, my Horrida's plantations in Jamaica.
Here's what I'm getting at with KamalaHarris. And this is why I man,
I ask you the question. Disagreewith her politics, just like I'm
telling people on the left, disagreewith Jade Vance's politics, but give a
little bit of credit to the personwho's there. And so my question is

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is, Hi, I'm giving youthe floor say something about that you actually
admire about her. You're not givingme the floor. I'm taking the floor,
brother, all right, whatever,So anyway, yes, what do
you like about Kamala Harris? Well, okay, I've tried, folks,
I'll struggle with it. It's sohard for me to find something. But
this is what I honestly mean this. For the first time I ever saw

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her on you know, she showedup on my radar screen, I thought,
well, what a lovely smile.I also thought the same thing about
Obama. You know, she doeshave a lovely smile. I don't go
for the cackle. A little bitwould have been okay, but she over
way overdes that, and it's asign she doesn't know what to say or
do, so she just cackles andgets out of the question too. Anyway,
Oh, I'm sorry, I said, I'm only saying good things,
good things, only good things,only good well and the other thing I

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would say that. And I reallydo like this, And you know,
it's maybe a little strange, butI love India. I've lived in India.
I built a bioa college and seminaryin South India. I love the
Indian people, I love the cultureeverything. It has its problems, Yes,
it has a lot of problems.But in spite of all that,
I love India. Greatest food inthe world. But and so, and
maybe some of that is in hercooking style, I hope. But anyway,

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and so that's a real positive soa soul food. I love sulfu.
So there's a good thing. AndI just think it's wonderful that she
has Indian ancestry from you know,East Indian ancestry. Okay, well,
and all right, and I thinkthat's that's a brilliant philosophy. Okay,
I don't all I see is I'msorry, I see bad. Maybe I'll
find something good that I could say, Hey, that was a good thing

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she did. Politically, let's let'sconcentrate on the positive thing you said.
And I'm gonna I'm going to okay, I'm going to translate this because people
like, oh, you said hehad a good smile, actually is a
very powerful compliment. And it's avery good one because here's the thing about
Kamala Harris that people who are likeus in the midst of the politics sometimes
don't look up and see if you'renot if you don't follow like you don't
watch every little political thing the wayHi and I do, and a lot

(31:30):
of our listeners do you miss this? Sometimes people just like people that look
positive on this. It's good forpolitics. It's so there's a real vote.
So people are making the comparison howmuch this year is turning out like
nineteen sixty eight where the president droppedout the vice president took the position.
However, all the wild time politically, folks, it's it's it's frightening how

(31:52):
much things Sorry. But one ofthe things that's that's interesting is what did
they call Hubert Humphrey? What washis positive pivity? It was that he
was a happy warrior. And that'sthe point that you've got And I just
I made compliments of both Trump ofjd Vance, and I can make it.
Neither Trump nor jd Vance are thoughtof as incredibly happy warriors. They

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thought of as you know, that'snot a criticism, it's just an attitude
of a person. That doesn't meanthey're horrible people. It just means that
they don't come off as the smiling, happy kind of person. And the
point I'm getting at is that's avery powerful political people who was a happy
warrior. Ronald Reagan, who waswho was a happy warrior. Donald Trump,

(32:37):
well, Donald Trump to me doesn'thit most people as a happy warrior,
not like Reagan. Trump comes acrossmore like Teddy Roosevelt. Well,
no, he comes more like hecomes off more like and this is a
that you remember he won. Hecomes off a lot like Richard Nixon in
nineteen sixteen. Oh no, no, no, no no, And I'm
not making I'm not making. I'msorry. I mean he does. He

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comes off he comes off a lotlike Nixon. I'm saying, you don't
see that to a lot of Ohno, no, no, no,
the parallels to sixty eight or Nixonis not a street fighter. Trump is
openly everybody thought they used that descriptionfor Nixon as he was a stream fighter,
well only when nobody was looking.I'm talking about out in the open.
Trump is a street fighter, buthe's also very positive. Nixon,

(33:22):
to me, came across as akind of a and I've voted for him,
and I look back in history andI admire him for many reasons.
But one thing I did not likeabout Nixon was the fact that, uh,
he looked fake to me when he, you know, stand up and
do the victory sign and have thatbig smile. I thought, that's just
not really fake in that, Andmaybe he was real. I shouldn't,
you know, I don't know itwas in his heart, but he just

(33:44):
can't. That wasn't to me.I didn't. I don't think they came
over there. There is a happywarrior, there are are any I can't
relate him to Trump at all.I do. I do with a lot
of people have. But let's look, there's speaking of that one because they've
gendered up so much hatred for Nixon, so you may try to make him
look like Trump. One thing thatis parallel to the sixty eight race is
it still remains a very tight race. National Coles put Donald Trump one point

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ahead of commic just right now,let's things settle out. This is a
honeymoon period for so she gets alot of passes, and you know,
ninety percent of the media is allsinging her praises right now. They never
did that for Trump, but they'regoing to do it for her. So
she's gonna get a ride of popularityfor a few weeks till the whole true
Kamala comes out and Trump and watchthanks christ and burn on her. I
heard that when they're going to bescrambling to another candidate then because she's not

(34:29):
in yet, all right, sheand that could be a blood bath at
the Democratic It's not going to bebecause here's what's going to find out.
I thought for a while it wouldbe. But what's but what what has
happened is she's already got the delegatesin place. We got to take a
break. The virtual convention will bedone at the second week of August.
By August seventh, she's gonna nameher vice presidential candidate. Right now.

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We think Andy Basheer is out,the governor of Kentucky, who looked like
he was there. The final choicesare coming down to Roy Cooper of North
Carolina. Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania andSenator Mark Kelly Jewish. And that's and
it's and that's a real criticism ofthe Democratic Party. His it's not the
fact that it's not the fact thathe's Jewish. It's the fact that he's
a strong supporter of Israel. BecauseI remember, Kamala Harris's husband is Jewish.

(35:14):
People are Jewish. It doesn't matter. It's just well, then Kamala
Harris wouldn't be the nomination because Jewish, her husband is, Okay, yeah,
her children are. I mean,come on, yeah, it's like,
yeah, I'm sorry Jewish. Hi, come on, No one even
knows her husband's Jewish. Lots ofpeople know her husband's Jewish. Is one
of the most prominent Jewish church.I'm talking about these Antifa and BLM.

(35:35):
God, the different radical The differenceis the Democrat mob right now, they
don't know that. The difference isJosh Shapiro is not only a strong supporter
of Israel, he's also a strongsupport of school vouchers. And so the
left does not like him. Buthe is arguably the only way a Democrat
cable. But he won't be theguy high. The only way a Democrat
can win this election is to winPennsylvania, and Josh Shapiro holds the the

(35:59):
key. Shapiro's on that ticket.Kamala Harris wins Pennsylvania. Period. We'll
see, I'll see it, butI don't think Actually, I think it's
gonna be Mark Kelly because I thinkhis wife got shot Congressman Gary Gabby Gifferts,
So it kind of ameliorates a littlebit of the assassination. She was
a victim of attempted assassination. He'san astronaut pilot, he's from the swing

(36:20):
state, So I mean it's itis absurd, of course, but of
course, wait a minute, WellBiden got COVID and that was the same
thing as Trump getting shot. Totake mainslign media, we got to take
us Trump being an attempted says sorry, we got to take a very creed.
He was as brave as Trump.We gotta take a very very quick
break. We'll be back after theseport messages. Well, folks, it's
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as always on Christopher Tidmore and ChapelHigh Mac Inery with Christopher. Of course,
we're always working so very hard tobring you the truth, the whole
truth, and nothing but the truthto help us God. And right now
it's time for a press release,folks. Yeah, suppress release is a

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great movement. This is a bigone in Louisiana right now. It's called
Free Louisiana. You can go toour website Freelouisiana dot org and find out
all about us. We are asecessionist movement. We're very small but growing,
and there are many other successions movementsaround the country right now. Texas
has a huge one. In fact, the two heads of the Republican Party
in Texas are members of their secessionistmovement. So it's a big thing right

(38:36):
now. In America. There's oneup in the Northwest there's one in California,
and there's several others around and weare I think the seventh or eighth
one to show up on the radarscreen. And what it means is that
if we think things have gone badenough in this country and the federal oppression
is so extreme, that it's goingto be time for Louisiana citizens to secede

(38:59):
from the Union and create a newcountry, the Republic of Louisiana, whatever
we want to call it, andwe may join it with other seceding states.
That's a possibility. But you know, folks, this is our constitutional
right. It's in the tenth Amendment, and it's very important. Our finding
fathers understood that. Remember they secededfrom Great Britain under natural law, and

(39:20):
they were right about that. Wehave every right to succede. It's in
biblical law. It is a wellnesstand I know they're challenges in the courts
and some people have other legal opinionson it. I understand that, but
nevertheless, it is our right.We've got a board of three people and
an attorney. Right now. I'mon the board. I'm the vice chairman.

(39:40):
A guy named Larkin Jackson is thechairman. And then we have another
fellow who's been moving. He's beenworking with successions movements around the country.
He's very successful at His name isScott and so check us out. You
can go to our website and that'sfree Louisiana folks. This is going to
be a going thing. Personally,I hope it doesn't work. But if

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push comes to shove and we arereally put in that terrible situation where we
have like either do or die,you know, we're either going to go
completely into a stave slave state forthe Union, then it's going to be
time for us to start seriously movingfor secession. And I hope it never
comes. The best I'm hoping toget out of this is put enough political
pressure on our rotten politicians where maybethey'll start doing the right thing when they

(40:30):
realize that we're serious. So,Chris rh I think you have some thoughts
about this well, And I wouldn'tsay, as some people know, I
supported Brexit for Britain leaving the EuropeanUnion, which was a political union's session.
That was a session I will butI'm going to say something very direct.
Yes, the founder supported the conceptof a state being able to leave
the Union. But what changed inthe American Civil War afterwards was a legal

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change, and it's called the thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth Amendments, which
changed the nature of citizenship. Youwere no longer a citizen of your state,
he says it, the citizen ofthe United States when that change and
has been subsequently in multiple Supreme Courtrulesions. And was the result of the
Civil War that suddenly we went froma confederation of states to a single nation.

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And because of that, there isnot a constitutional basis to be able
to secede. And that's the pointI'm getting at, and I think that's
the point you're facing. But youguys are talking. You said in the
Newsweek article, it's a peaceful You'relooking at a democratic election, so it
goes to the people. And soI see where you're coming from. And
when it came to Britain, I'vefound it. But I think we're after

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eighteen sixty five, two hundred yearsbeyond where that it can be really one
hundred and fifty years beyond where thatcould be really a consideration. So well,
we'll say, and you know,Britain had a peaceful brexit. The
South had a peaceful succession a partof the rule of law. Yes,
yes, it had a very peacefulsuccession. Copy vote. Every person who
could vote voted in the South Okayand the South had over three hundred thousand

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back and you're listening to the foundersshow. The voice of the funding follows
in this Chapelhi mcchenryna, It isnot time for us to go into our

(43:53):
chaplain by bah patriotic moment. Justtake a brief moment to give you a
little history lesson on the origins ofour country and on the biblical foundations of
our country are Judeo Christian jurisprudence.And today I want to talk about none
other than John Quincy Adams. Hewas the sixth President of the United States.
He's the son of John Adams,who was also the President of the

(44:14):
United States, and he's a verydynamic fellow. He was just a brilliant
man. I think at the ageof thirteen he was sent to Russia as
an ambassador. He was fluent inFrench, Russian, and several other languages.
He was a brilliant legal mind.He was a remarkable man. And
he had one term in office,and he said this about the foundations of

(44:39):
our country. He said, thehighest glory of the American Revolution was this.
It connected, in one dissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with
the principles of Christianity. So,folks, I really think John Quincy Adams
wanted God in government. By theway, he was also a great abolitionist.
He was known as the Hellhound ofCongress because after he was a president,

(45:01):
like all of the presidents were tired, he actually went ran for office
again in Congress and he spent therest of his life fighting tyranlessly to end
slavery, which was certainly a verynoble cause. And he's you see him
in the movie in the book I'mAstead, where it's a story about how
the slaves took over the ship andthen they ended up in Baltimore and they

(45:23):
had to be tried, and whatto do with him it's a fact.
If you've never seen that movie,you should see that movie. It's a
very, very very powerful movie.I love it. Spielberg did it,
and oh it's so extremely well done. You have a famous British actor who's
playing the role of John Quincy Adams, Anthony Hopkins, and you have and
as far as I'm concerned, oneof our great American actors, and that's

(45:44):
Morgan Freeman, who plays the roleof a freed slave who's working tirelessly also
to end slavery. It's a fabulousmovie. I encourage everybody to see it,
and so just remember that, folks, we have biblical foundations in this
country. But you know, folks, that's all good and great and wonderful.
It really to me. I loveit. It's precious to me.
But what about you. Do youhave a biblical foundation? Because you know,

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you could be the greatest patriotic biblicalconservative that ever lived and still dine
and go to hell if you didnot know the author. You might know
the author's book, but do youknow the author? And the author I'm
talking about is the Lord Jesus Christ. Do you know him up close and
personal? Well, that's what ittakes to get into heaven and to be
saved from hell. And I'm gonnatell you right now how you can know

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that as we now go into ourChaplin by By gospel moment where I just
take again a short time to showyou how you can know that. You
know that, you know you're goingto heaven when you die and you're saved
from hell. And it goes likethis, folks, for God's so love
the world. That's you, that'severybody. This is John three point sixteen.
For God's love the world that hegave his only begotten son. Who's

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that. That's the Lord Jesus Christ. He's all the way God and all
the way man. He's perfect Godand perfect man. That whosoever believeth in
him. Well, what do youhave to believe? I mean, you
know you can say, oh,I believe in him, But so what
what do you have to You gottabelieve something. It's got to have some
kind of context there. This iswhat you have to believe. The scripture
says, the Gospel is the powerof God and the salvation to whosoever believeth

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And the scripture tells what the gospelis. It says, for our declariny
of the gospel that Jesus died forall of our sins, according to the
scripture, was buried and rose fromthe dead according to the scripture. So,
folks, now we know what thegospel is, we know what it
does. We know that God lovesyou with an everlasting love. The scripture
says, for God's soul love theworld and that means everybody, including you.
And uh so, and then thatsaid that whosoever believeth in him.

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Well, now let's look in thisword belief. We got to take a
deeper look in that. In thatword. Uh it's basically it's kind of
think of a fate. Your faith. Your belief is a two sided coin.
On one side, it's repentance.Folks. If you don't repent,
you're not real. And what thatmeans is you've got to quit believing that
you can do something to get yourselfinto heaven, meaning some good work.

(47:57):
You can do, some religious work, some kind of good work like oh,
maybe you go to the homeless missionand feed the poor. All these
great things you could be doing well, And that's good, and that's important.
You can turn from your sins,that's very important. It just won't
get you in heaven. In fact, it'll cancel the contract God is trying
to get you to sign. He'salready signed it, by the way,
folks, he signed it with hisblood. He's just waiting for you to
sign it with your childlike faith.But remember it's two sides of coin.

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First, you got to believe youcan't save yourself. That takes humility,
folks. And scripture says God resistsof the proud, but giveth grace to
the humble. So when you cometo that point, when you realize what
an absolute loser you are, howno good you truly are, no matter
how good you try to be,and no matter how many good works you've
done, how many religious works youknow, how much money you've given to
the church, it doesn't matter whatit is, whatever it is, it

(48:42):
doesn't work with God because we're notperfect and he is, and he demands
perfection. Will never be there,folks. In fact, the scripture says,
all of our ritions, all thesegood works you could do, It
says, all of our ritions areas filthy rags to a perfect God.
So forget it. You don't haveto keep trying. Give up on it,
and the split second you give up. You're just repented. Now you're
free to put faith alone in Christalone, that whosoever believeth in him,

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that he died for all your sinswas buried in roseman dead. Who's sever
believed in him shall not perish,not go to a burning hell, which
you don't even want to think aboutit so bad, shall not go to
hell, but have ever lasting life. If you've never done this before,
please, folks, it's time nowto put faith alone. Christ alone,
childlike faith, It's now time tobelieve that Jesus did die for all your
sins, was buried in rosem thedead. And like the old country preacher

(49:28):
said, don't wait till it's toolate, folks, that day's coming,
and it's coming soon for you.Are you going to believe? Are you
going to really trust Christ? Thescripture says now today is a day of
salvation. Don't delay this, folks. You don't know if you have tomorrow.
Nobody does. We have no idea. I mean, I have friends,
you know, seventy three. SoI'm starting to see if all my

(49:50):
good buddies now passed away, andsome of them unexpectedly, nobody knew that
they were going to. I almostdied a year ago from Jesseph Harfhales,
given six months to live without treatment. At the same time, We're very
friend had a similar heart condition.She refused to get treatment. Six months
later, my precious friend passed away. We miss her dearly. You just
never know when it's going to beyour time, folks. So folks,

(50:12):
you better get ready. And theway to get ready is to really trust
Jesus put all of your heart whenit says believe with all of your heart.
The way you do that is youdon't believe that you can do anything
to help God out. He hadto do it all, and He did
it all. Let it be likethat, folks, trust Him with all
your heart. Well, folks,is now time for us to go into

(50:34):
our chaplain Bye Bah. Testimony timewhere we just take a brief moment to
tell you about the happy things andthe good things and the great things that
God has done in the church andwith people individuals. You know, the
script says by the blood of theLamb and the word of their testimony,
they overcame the dragon. So wegot a great testimony for you right now,
yes, folks, And that personis C. T. Stud He

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was known as one of the fourHorsemen of Oxford because he was on the
cricket team and he was a famouscricket player, like we have our famous
sports players today. Well, hewas one of the most famous sports players
in the entire British Empire. Youknow what the number one sport in the
world is today, soccer? Youknow, you know why, the British
Empire. You know, the secondmost popular sport cricket, again the British

(51:17):
Empire. This was big time stuffback then. He was an honorgrad from
from Oxford. Uh but as heas he was there, he developed a
great call to go to the missionfield. He went to China. He
spent his entire life there. Hewas a multi jibillionaire, not because of
his sports talent, because he wasborn to great wealth and privilege in England

(51:38):
and so uh he but he gotcalled to the ministry. He had a
deep experience, a conversion experience,and realized that he wanted to spend the
rest of his life in the ministry. And when his father used to bring
missionaries to their palatial palace if youwill, in England, something like like
you know, the big the greatpalaces of Europe. Uh he he would

(52:00):
make fun of the missionaries and teasethem and harass them, never knowing that
a few years later he'd get thesame calling. He went to China.
He married a lovely Irish gal andthey spent most of the rest of their
lives in China. He had thisgreat wealth. He wanted to use it
for mission work. You know,his wife told him, she said,
we're never going to really trust Godas long as we have that money.

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Give it away. You know whathe did. He gave it all away
and became poverty stricken overnight. Hecontinued his time and work in China.
He finally ended up traveling to Indianspent time there as a missionary, and
then he came home an old andtired and broken old man, looking forward
to glory, looking for his preciouswife had gone before him. He was
alone in the world. And oneday he's walking down the street in London

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and he sees a sign missionaries forAfrica. We had never been there before.
He thought, you know what,I'll finish off my life as an
old man in Africa doing mission work. And that's what he did. Do
you know, in the few shortyears of his life. He lived in
his knies. He ended up havinga very old life, long life.
He founded one of the greatest missionboards in the history of the world,

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the Central Mission Board of Africa,and he goes down as one of the
greatest missionaries of all times. Andby the way, he participated, along
with many other European missionaries ending slaveryin Africa. They were the ones who
finally ended slavery in Africa. Folks, this is an amazing story. CT
stud check them out well, folks. It is time for us to go,

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as we now close with the montSaint Martin singing a Creole goodbye and
God bless all out there? Doesthis have to be the end of the
neld? Do I love you?In the pamal Land, I can see

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across the million stars look in