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April 19, 2024 54 mins
Hy and Christopher the address the woeful conditions of New Orleans’ parks, and then turn our attention to the Middle East.

Israel’s missile strike early Friday morning on Isfahan, Iran was far more measured—and much smaller—than anyone expected. Could it be part of a bigger strategy to untie the IDF’s hands in a coming assault on southern Gaza?

But first, we start the show talking about the New “Big Green Easy” Masterplan.  It seeks to address racial & funding inequities in nola’s Park System.

New Orleans is blessed with a multitude of green spaces; parks which seem to cover so many parts of the city so often sit neglected. Partly, this results from an accident of history as the city’s green spaces were often acquired by an absence of mind.  Donations of land were made for other purposes and ended up as parks – as no one ever proposed another purpose.  As a result, city leaders never drew up a plan of governance for our park system or how to adequately pay for their maintenance.

A new masterplan being proposed to the New Orleans City Council on Monday, April 22, seeks to not only insure that funding remains equitable across the racial fabric of New Orleans, but, as one of the authors of the proposal explained to Hy and Christopher, to actually devote thought to “this green layer of jewels across of our city.” Civic leader Scott Howard and his allies have spent four years devising what they call the “Big Green Easy” masterplan.  As he explains, “The organization that I work with ‘Parks for All,’ has advocated for a better park plan than we've had in the past. We've had other plans, but we've never had a comprehensive plan that really works, in the way that we’ve distributed our resources.”

Howard continued to say, “We do have a lot of parks. You know, a national standard that was kind of introduced by the Trust for Public Land is that dwellers of cities be within a 10-minute walking distance of a park, and we actually satisfy that criterion pretty well. I mean, about 80 percent of our population are within such a park. But the question is, how good is the park and how easy is it to get to the park? I mean, really, the two of the primary focuses of the master plan are ‘access’ and ‘accessibility.’ By that I mean, by ‘accessibility,’ how easy is it to get to the park, and then ‘access’ … is getting to a park that’s worth going to!

“And you know, what we found is that the distribution of quality assets is inequitable, and it expresses itself in the usage of the parks.  To give you a specific statistic. Blacks form 57 percent of the population, but only 26 percent of park usage is by Blacks, whereas with whites it's the opposite, representing 31 percent of the population but 59 percent of park usage. And I don’t think it’s going out on much of a limb to guess that the reason for that is not because ‘Blacks don't like parks,’ but rather because the parks they’re able to access are not as good. And so the park plan thinks deeply about that – and how to address that inequity.”

Some of the answer comes down to money, yet Howard explained that answers exist besides raising taxes.

“We're not a rich city, and we have to be smart about how we expend our resources. One of the issues that the plan addresses is whether [the park governance system] is organized sufficiently that we…utilize our resources as effectively as we can. The [Big Green Easy] Report states that we’re the most fragmented park and recreation system in the country. There are fully 16 separate entities that control green space in the city; SIXTEEN! So the plan raises the question. It doesn't try to propose exactly how we go about changing this, but it encourages the administration of the city to undertake a separate analysis of how the Parks and Recreation entities are structured in order to identify perhaps a more streamlined structure, particularly looking at more at [The Department of] Parks and Parkways. So that we could derive some economic efficiencies out of that and use our limited dollars more effectively.”

Listen for some of the ideas for reforms, planning, and how to link linear parks like the Lafitte Greenway and extensive green links through the neutral ground system.
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God bless all out there. Youare now listening to the founders. So
the voice of the founding fathers,You're Founding fathers coming to you deep within
the bowels of those mystic and crypticalligator swamps of the Big Easy, that

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old Crescent City, New Orleans,Louisiana, and high up on top of
that old Liberty Cypress tree way outon the Eagles Branch. This is none
other than your be Gary baba Othe republic Chaplain High mcgnry, who with
Christopher Tidmorey rowing a reporter, residentradical moderate and associate editor of the Louisiana
Weekly Newspaper at louisianaweekly dot net andfolks. New Orleans is blessed with a

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multiplicity of green space. We haveparks that seem to cover so many parts
of our city, yet they're oftenneglected part of that. As an accident
of history, our green space isliterally done in a fitness of mind.
The fact that donations were made forother purposes and they ended up as parks

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means that we never actually planned ourpark system or how to pay for it.
A new master plan that is beingproposed to the New Orleans City Council
on April to twenty second Monday,is potentially a way of correcting that mistake
and making sure not only is fundingequitable, but that we actually have this

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green layer of jewels across of ourcity. And the architect of that master
plan, who's spent four years workingon it since he first came on this
program to talk about the urgent needto do something about our parks, is
joining us once more. That iscivic activist and business leader Scott Howard and
Scott welcome back to the program.Thank you, Christopher. But I have

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to correct you a little bit becauseI don't want to credit myself with being
the architect of this am I ama contributor to an effort by the organization
that I work with, Parks forAll, an advocacy group that has indeed
advocated for a better park plan thanwe've had in the past, and we've

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had you know, we've had otherplans, but we've never had a comprehensive
plan that really looks at the waywe've distributed our resources. So I forgive
me for making that a little adjustment. But you will let my modesty,
considering you've been working on this forfour years, will will allow you some

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false humility. Humility, But ScottHoward, the challenge of the park systems
in New Orleans is the fact thatthey are this wonderful green space that we
have where people are close to parks. Yet at some level it's an accident
of history. We have these incredibleparks, some of them well, pretty
well funded and maintained automn Park,City Park, and other parks that are

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close to so many neighborhoods and yetnot really as well maintained. So how
did we get to this point?Give us a little historical background. Well,
I think look, I think you'vestated it very well. You know,
we do have a lot of parks. You know, A national standard
now that was kind of introduced bythe Trust for Public Land is that dwellers

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of cities be within a ten minutewalking distance of a park and we actually
satisfy that criterion pretty well. Imean, about eighty percent of our population
are within such a part. Butthe question is how good is the park
and how easy is it to getto the park? I mean, really,

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the two of the primary focuses ofthe master plan are access and accessibility.
By that, I mean by accessibility, I mean is how easy is
it to get to the park?And then access, which they're defining sounds
a little confusing, but they're definingas getting to a park that's worth going

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to. And you know, whatwe found is that the distribution of quality
assets well is inequitable, and itexpresses itself in the usage of the parks.
To give you a specific statistic,you know, blacks represent fifty seven

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percent of the population, but onlyutilized twenty six Only park usage shows that
only about twenty six percent of parkusage is by blacks, whereas with Weiss
it's the opposite, representing thirty onepercent of the population but fifty nine percent

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of park usage. And I don'tthink it's going out on much of a
limb to guess the reason for thatis not because blacks don't like parks,
but rather because the parks they're ableto access are not as good and so
the park plan thinks deeply about thatand how to address that inequity. And
some of this of course comes downto money. Frankly that we're in Orleans

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Parish. For those that are listeningto this particular park conversation, we're talking
about parks in Orleans Parish. Wehaving a bigger conversation of the parks around
the region, but the parks inOrleans Parish. You know, we're in
a parish that there's already been atax revault going on against higher taxes.
People are not going to vote mostlyfor higher milage rates. So part of

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this is an equitable funding arrangement.And the fact is historically we have it
not only underfunded our parks, wehaven't funded our parks period. I think
it was City Park first finally gotits first funding after one hundred and twenty
five years, about four or fiveyears ago so from the city. So
the question is how do we equitablyallocate these resources so that there are well

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maintained jungle gyms for kids, thereare walking paths, there are somebody to
cut the grass, even as somethingas simple as that, and inadequate security
within our parks. Well, you'reabsolutely right, Christopher. You know,
we're not a rich city and wehave to be smart about how we expend
our resources. I mean, oneof the issues that the plan addresses is

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whether we're organized as efficiently as weshould be to utilize our resources as effectively
as we can. The report statesthat we're the most fragmented park and recreation
system in the country fully sixteen separateentities that control green space in the city

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sixteen. So the park raises thequestion. It doesn't try to propose exactly
how we go about changing this,but it encourages the administration of the city
to undertake a separate analysis of howthe parks and recreation entities are structured in

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order to identify perhaps a more streamlinedstructure, particularly looking at nord and parks
and Parkways, so that we couldderive some economic efficiencies out of that and
again use our limited dollars more effectively. And this is something that I've brought

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up to the Parks and Parkways directors. You know, nord Sea came about.
It's our latest commission, joining thepiles of commissions. We have more
commissions and boards for a city ofthree hundred and fifty thousand people for Orleans
Parish than any place I've ever seen. But I pointed out to them,
I said, you know, there'ssomething interesting about the parks and New Orleans.

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Every successful city that has successful parksystem has some kind of green space
connecting the parks, the Houston parksystem, so and so forth, a
line of green And I said,we actually have that when you factor in
things like the Feet Greenway, whenyou look at our neutral ground system,
when you look at even train railconnections that have been reclaimed as ways of

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connection. And I said, butnobody in each of your parks talks to
one another about how to connect theparks together, right, And that's you
know, that's one of the reasonswhy parks were all has tried to take
a more of a pan city viewof things, and I think we have
a great opportunity to create more connectors. You know, the bike people have

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been doing a great job since Katrinaof conceiving of the city as able to
be unified, and so we're youknow, this is not without efforts.
There are things underway that are pointingin the right direction, and what the
plan does is to identify those andyou know see to it that the plan

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is. You know, it's nottrying to reinvent everything. You know there
are We're not devoid of ideas underway. I mean, for example, this
isn't addressing the connectivity points so much, but you know there's thinking going into
the renovation of Lincoln Beach and sothe plan picks up on that and says,
look, these are things that weneed to follow through on because we

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have a great opportunit unity to havea great park city. We just need
to be more intentional about where we'regoing, where we want to go,
and how we're going to get there. Scott Howard, Civic Leader, is
one of a group presenting a masterplan on April to twenty second Monday to

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the New Orleans City Council for amaster Plan for our parks Parks for All,
and he's joining us here in theFounder Show with Hi McKenny and Christopher
tad More to talk about some ofthe elements of this plan and Scott a
more basic thing, if somebody wantsto find out more about the plan and
support your effort, how do theydo it? Well, Honestly, I

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think the best way to do itwould be to start with reading the plan.
Now, look the plan. It'sa long plan. It's over two
hundred pages, and it's not exactlyJohn Grisham, but it's very well written
and it's very interesting. If youlove parks, and I think most people
really do love parks, if onlytheir own nearest park, I think you'd

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find it interesting to at least dipinto the plan and understand some of these
ideas. It's very readable. Andwhere is it available, Well, you
can find it on the city's websiteand it's lodged within the Youth and Families
section. But if you just googlethe Big Green Easy Plan, which is

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its title, the Big Green Easy, Google will pop it up right away
and take you to that correct placeon the city's website, the Big Green
Easy and this will talk about howto revamp the parks of the city of
New Orleans and potentially beyond. Parkseems to be one of the number the

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top five considerations that people look atwhere they're going to raise a family and
what cities they're going to move toor remain in. And we have to
point out that the metropolitan New Orleansarea has lost seventy three thousand people in
the last ten years out of apopulation of a one point two million,
that's not exactly a small number.So the question is what we can do

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to reverse our parks. And youcan admit, Scott Howard, there's a
certain degree of cynicism about trying toget things done in New Orleans. You
know, we're now doing post Katrinaroad construction twenty years later. So the
question is do you see a politicalappetite to be able to finally try to
have the park systems work together andtry to see how we can have a

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better hole rather than the sum ofthe parts. Well, you know,
I think that, you know,I think that our political leaders believe in
and understand parks, and so Ithink you know this, But you know,
it's a little bit like what BenFranklin said about the weather. Everybody

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talks about it, but nobody doesanything about it. And there is there
is a fair amount of cynicism inthe city about whether the city can be
entrusted with extra money to do anything, because, you know, to a
great extent, it seems as ifit takes forever for things to get done.
But I don't know. I'm anoptimist, Christopher. I think that

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we are making some headway even fixingour streets, and so I think that
I like to think there is awill to do this, and there's definitely
a way to do it. CivicLeader Scott Howard is joining us here in
the Founder Show with Hi McHenry andChristopher Tidmore, and we're talking parks,
folks. This park master Plan thatis going to be introduced on April to

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twenty second Monday, up to theNew Orleans City Council. And one of
the top three recommendations are changes thatthe master plan suggest that you would like
the council because I know most councilmen, Scott, and they're probably not with
a notable exception, is going toread too hundred pages. So when they're
asking for the cliff notes version,what are you telling them? Yeah,

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well, yeah, fair enough.You know, the plan actually identifies seven
big moves, you know, rangingfrom you know, getting down to improving
specific parks because you know, oneof the major feedback from from the citizens
was we love our neighborhood parks.We just want them to to you know,

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to be improved, to be better. And this community programming, particularly
than how GNORD functions and making moreprograms available and so forth. But rather
than go through you know, allseven, you've asked me to identify the
three most important things. I wouldsay, first of all, the plan

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identifies a one year plan in orderto get kickstart the whole thing. And
it's it's very well well laid out, identifying a whole range of things to
do to get started, with accountabilitiesassigned to the appropriate parties in the administration
and city Hall. And you know, I'm a big believer in that adage

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about once begun half done, SoI would say the first thing would be
to get a hold of that oneyear plan. It recommends, for example,
of the nomination of a planning chiefof a park and recreation planning chief,
with the thought being that no currentplayer really has the bandwidth to do

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all the things that the plan callsfor and to focus on them. So
anyway, number one, undertake theone year plan. Secondly, again that
focus on neighborhoods, you know,improving nearby green spaces. I think this
would go a long way to establishingthe credibility of the plan. And this

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again to get back to that pointabout cynicism. A lot of getting the
plan going is to to create createcredibility in the in the population that this
is something that we can do.And the plan identifies the parks throughout the

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city that are in greatest need ofrepair. So we have a very specific
targets that are affordable, achievable,achievable. So let's create some meaningful impetus
around the plan by going to thoseparks and fixing them up. And then
thirdly, I would say, isand again I'm repeating myself a little bit

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here, is to examine the structureof the system. You know, bearing
in mind that we are so fragmented, what can we do to make the
system more efficient, because that's goingto create the opportunity for more capital dollars,
more operating dollars, to do morewith less, And going back to

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one of your first points, that'sclearly something that we need to do if
we're going to improve where we are. Scott Howard has been joining us.
He is one of the movers andshakers behind the Big Green, Easy the
Parks for All proposal and master planthat it's been proposed by the New Orleans
City Council on April to twenty secondMonday. And Scott, do you have

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council members that are already enthusiastic aboutthis, do you you know, because
I've seen a lot of plans proposedwith the Council, they get tabled and
you know, you hear about themin about twenty years. So do you
have any advocates on the council alreadybehind the program? You know I've had
I've been invited to speak on WBOKAand Oliver Thomas is the host of WBOKA,

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and you know, Oliver is clearly, you know, very enthusiastic about
it. You know, I cansay that with the benefit of sitting with
him for you know, half anhour, and we're about to be reinvited
onto the show to talk about itagain. So I know Oliver is,
but I you know, honestly againmaybe and maybe revealing my Pollyanna streak,

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but you know, I like tothink that all of all of the council
members understand the importance of parks.Uh. They're all going to rightfully raise
the question of affordability. Uh.The plan. The plan calls for a
quintupling of how much money we spendon parks over the next ten years.
So it's you know, it's you'vereally got to believe in it. Uh,

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to figure out how to make itwork. But I you know,
I think that one of the thingsthat everybody is coming to understand is that
parks are more than just about youknow, lolling about in a beautiful place
on a Sunday. They have everythingto do with our health, with our

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resiliency from storms and so forth.So we get two fers and three firs
out of fixing our parks up.So I think everybody's getting that, and
I think it creates more of anopportunity for all of our of our council
leaders to get behind it and figureout how to make it affordable. Well,

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on that note, I think Iwish you the best of luck on
Monday, April the twenty second andthe presentation of the master plan the Big
Green Easy to the Park. ScottHoward, thank you for joining us on
the Founder Show. Thank you,Hi. You've been quiet through this discussion.
Your thoughts one hot what Scott hadto say. Yes, I've been
pondering this most fascinating and important oftopics growing up here in New Orleans,

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to me, the most important partof the city with the parks. As
a child, as a young andeven in high school, I love parks
because I love the wilderness. Ialways have. I feel much more at
home in the wilderness than I doin civilization, let us say, in
urban and suburban areas, And soI do see this is very important.
I think it has a whole lotto do with how a person develops in

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their life. We don't live asour ancestors did in the wilderness, in
the woods, the deserts, whatever. We live in cities. Most Americans
live in cities. Now. Youknow, at the time the Great Depression,
ten percent of Americans lived in cities, ninety percent lived on the farm.
It's reversed now only ten percenter onthe farms and ninety percent are in

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the cities. And I really believethat Mother Nature has a very powerful message
for us from directly from her heart. And that means the things in nature
will minister to your soul and encourageyour life and help you grow up and
be a stronger person. And Ireally believe that. So when people don't

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have that advantage in life, it'snot good. Therefore, I'm a thousand
percent in favor of increasing our partsin parks, building them up, making
them what they ought to be,and making them available for everybody that would
be like literally, like he saidearlier, within a ten minute walking distance.
In good parks, within a tenminute walking yeah, of course,
yeah. I mean they have tobe fixed. I mean, you don't

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want to go to a parking justfull of weeds. And you know,
get your take on this from thehistorical standpoint, you know, I mentioned
earlier in the interview, I saida lot of our parks were kind of
an absence of mind. They weredonated. What I meant by that was
the fact that like take the CityPark for example, it was the Alliard
plantation, John McDonald's best friend.The guy was going to go bankrupt.
John McDonald bailed him out and donatedthe land to benefit New Orleans schools and

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nobody knew what to do with itfor decades and it just sat there.
And so because of that, itended up saying, oh, this would
be an idea for a park,and never gave it any money. For
the reason for that was at thattime. For instance, my father would
walk from Saint Charles ab I meanthis is in the early part of the
twentieth century, with a fishing poleover one shoulder and a shotgun over the
other, and he would head north. He would head toward Claybourne Avenue,
which wasn't there at the time,and he'd go hunting fishing. That was

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a huge giant wilderness area right inthere, if you will, in the
middle of the city or so.Back in those days, cities were so
close to their wildernesses. You know, Parks were kind of like kind of
a novelty and you would have atown square but passed that. Parks weren't
really that big of a deal becauseyou were close to nature. You would
always get to nature quickly and easily. But now that we've grown up and

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you got ancient history. My dadused to hunt rabbits where Lakeside Mall is.
Yeah, I know, I rememberthose days. Yeah, we're not
talking about So you need that becausewe don't have any form of nature close
to us anymore. You still todrive ten minutes from here and get to
New Orleans East and go some ofthe best duck hunting, snipe hunting and
fishing whatever right there or just rightin your backyard almost. But all those

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days are gone now, so weneed parks and they're very important. And
like my kids, he loves thepark in our ministry or you can tell
it has made him a much betterperson. He's a fishing champion. He
loves to get in rodeos out ofthe city park fishing rodeos and he throws
them all back. You don't evenbring them home. But it has a
very positive effect on people, especiallyin their growing up years. So I

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believe they're very important parks could have. It's not just necessarily for walking around
the mother nature, which is veryimportant. But guess what. You can
have tennis courch you can have basketballcourch you can in soccer fields, football
fields, you can have all thosethings that people love to do in an
out of door setting, even somethingas basic as jungle gyms for young kids,
absolutely, which is one of thethings there's where there is really a
class differential where you'll go to someparks and let's figure if you get an

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autoben park or city parks, they'rereally in good shape. You go to
a lot of parks in a lotof trial neighborhoods, there's green space.
You wouldn't want to risk the kidsin some of these jungle gyms. So
I mean that gives you a smallexample of how this play started. But
anyway, we got to take aquick commercial breakfooks. The last time,
I just would like to point outthat nord Our Recreation Department here for the
city of New Orleans, did afantastic job of creating those early parks,

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and they I noticed that they woulddo it in neighborhoods like every you know,
maybe ten square blocks in the middleof it was an entire city block
dedicated to a park or recreation areawhere they have a lot, like we
have one near my house right now. Yeah, and it's huge. I
mean they have dog runs, theyhave a baseball field, they have a
football field. They have and thenwe'll see consas and then they even have

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a section for basketball and they havea section for the kids to play.
Well. Scott, one's done wellnow. Scott referenced nord which of course
went under some changes and became theNord's Sea, which means New Orleans Recreation
Department Commission. It's independent commission.It's made some improvements, but it's since
most of the parks are not undernord Sea, they're actually under parks and
parkways. It hasn't affected all theparks and they parks parkways have done some

(24:51):
very good jobs. They did amuch better job in Joe Bartholomew Park,
then comparatively redoing the golf course ofthe city Parks. That's another story.
But Howard a great job. I'mall for I'm can you keep up the
great work, God secs. Iappreciate it. We'll be back with a
little comment about the legislature and somepolitical moves, and particularly the inside story
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their own. The Israelis attacked thesmall town of Estraphan, which is known
as the center of missile production butalso of the nuclear production. For a
rant but they did it with avery measured attack. The missiles only attacked
a military base, a few militarytargets they hit on target, but it

(29:00):
was a very measured, very minorattack, and that surprised some people.
But what he and I wonder iswhether or not this is part of a
bigger military strategy that involves going intoGaza. For all of our foreign policy
experience, I was posting the MiddleEast. Of course, high as a
veteran of not only Afghanistan tu tours, but of the Persian Gulf War,
and has been in the Middle Eastor had a top secret clearance sc and

(29:22):
was a counter intelligence agent and insurgencyadvisor attached to the Marine Corps in two
thousand and ten. But I waslistening talking to a past guest in the
show, Joe Rosenberg, who ofcourse is in Israel, puts out Israel
today and he's hearing from sources inthe Israeli government. Then an interesting deal
has come through, and I'm curiousabout the political impact here in the United

(29:42):
States. Now. If you remember, prior to the launch of six hundred
drones and missiles towards Israel, allthe conversation was whether the Israeli defense forces
would be going into Rafa and intosouthern Gaza to take out Amas, and
there was a incredible resistance from theBiden administration, European sources, so on

(30:03):
and so forth. But the IDEFpointed out accurately that Hamas was using human
shields and the only way to takethem out was to physically go and take
in. What do you do withthe two point two million people that were
crowded there, And nobody had areally good answer, but it was one
thing that looked like a military capability, but at the same time it was
going to crucify Israel's view in theworld, at least at that point.

(30:26):
Well, the word that we're gettingis essentially these Israelis were ready to retaliate
against the Iranians in a much biggerway than the limited missile attack on Istropat.
And what they wanted to do atretaliate against was around both their drone
production capabilities and their oil structures.And the Biden administration, which is concerned
about world oil prices going into anelection and inflation, because remember, we

(30:48):
don't set our oil prices here inthe United States, they're set across the
world, was very much against this. That and the fact that the Iranians,
you know, they didn't want ageneral war, so I have to
comment on that. We might alreadybe in your finishment. Well, the
reason why the attack was so limitedwas the argument is net and tie you

(31:10):
Benny and the defense minister who's theleader of the opposition, Benny Gantz.
This coalition government came together and said, Okay, here's the deal. We
won't go into Iran. We won'teven make a token attack right now.
Eventually we will to get back atthis, but not a question about Rafa.
We're going in. And you've heardsomething interesting coming out of Washington.

(31:33):
Washington's coming out with four thousand tenthsto put along the Mediterranean coast. Suddenly
the arguments is what to do withthe refugees, as opposed to whether or
not Israel will go in Rafa.You're not hearing much from the European allies,
who, for the most part,we're a little overwhelmed by the six
hundred missiles that went towards Israel.And so the curious point about all this
is the Iranians, in a strangesort of way, ended up doing these

(31:56):
rallies a rather backhanded. Not thatshooting six hundred missiles at a country is
ever considered good, but they shotdown the missiles. The only casualty that
we know of as a Bedouin girl. And it has sort of freed the
political pressure that was getting on BenjaminNett and how you not only to not
go into Rafa, but to haveearly elections. All that has kind of

(32:17):
gone out the window. The interestingthing about all this is that I'm convinced
that this reason attack, this isthe first overt act of war by Iran
against Israel. Remember, up untilthe Shaw was deposed in seventy six,
Iran recognized Israel Iran. That's seventysix. That's every other attack Iran has

(32:43):
done. And they've attacked Israel,but through their surrogates, through Hesba Lah
in Lebanon, through the proxies.This was the first time it was based
on an an Israeli attack. That'sthe justification on an embassy to take out
to take out one of their headsof what's called Quad's force, which is
their elite, you know, fanatical, their equivalent of the SS. For

(33:04):
lack of a better term, Imean it's the best metaphor in the make
for it. But the fact isthis was the first time they'd ever directly
attacked it. It was kind ofunprecedented, right, you know, and
people thought or hoped that would neverever happen, But now it's happened.
And so, I mean, thisis an extreme act of war. Israel
has every right to go to warwith them, and I believe it will

(33:27):
happen for many reasons that even intheir military policy, their SOPs and whatnot,
their grand strategies, that anybody thatattacks them will be attacked within seventy
two hours, which everybody thought wouldhappen by now. And the reason why
we're hearing from israelis those don't knowJoe Rosenberg does Israel Israel today. He's
an American, but he puts excellentHe's a tremendous guy. And it was

(33:52):
Rosenberg who's pushed through his sources inthe Israeli government. Basically these negotiations of
Gauz is the only thing that hasstopped the Israelies from attacking, right.
And so it's a it's a prettyfor it's very tense right now, folks.
We don't may not realize that nowbecause it's not in the news.
A whole lot, and so wewe don't know much about really what's but
it's extremely intense over there, andmany people in the know, let's say,

(34:13):
uh, the you know, intelligenceoperators and various defense departments for various
parts of the world, they areall on the edge of their seats preparing
for World Ward three. They evenhere in America, they've activated most of
our nuclear as well as conventional warfareassets, getting them ready to go.
Folks, it's getting that intense.If if Israel attacks, it's probably they're

(34:37):
probably gonna it's going to be thatI would think they're going to try to
take out every nuclear facility and mostof their oil assets to crip them for
good so they cannot do this again. Right now, all the all the
stuff that's going on in Israel,we can thank Iran for that, because
they are funding Hamas has Belah andall the various terrorist groups that are trying
to take Israel's taken like and hasfor I don't know how many years now,

(34:59):
I ten years, taken somewhere betweenfive hundred one thousand missile attacks a
day from Iran's surrogates there well,and and and and the argued Elebanon and
out of Gaza. The argument thatwe're hearing right now out of Israel and
so is that it's not gonna happenbecause they're going to put their entire military
force into southern Gaza, and sothat right, maybe that'll that's that's what

(35:21):
the whole deal. So that's notso anyway. My point being is this,
this raises an interesting political question heredomestically. And I have to bring
a very important point here that veryfew people know this. I know it
from my prior intelligence sources and connectionsand all that. Uh, I cannot
disclose how I'm getting this, butI'm I'm very it's very reliable. And
that is that that attack was withtheir old missiles and rockets and whatnot and

(35:45):
drones the things they wanted to getrid of. And it was a probe.
In military operations, oftentimes you probethe enemy. You send a unit
out that will attack here there.It's not really for the intent of completely
winning the battle. It's for findingthe week spots, finding out what works
it doesn't work. It's done allthe time in battles and in wars and
whatnot. That was a probe.The only thing that got through were their

(36:08):
their best. They launched like sevenof their of their modern, latest and
greatest weapons missiles, hypersonic missiles.They got through and those are the ones
that caused the damage in Israel.It was more damage than Christopher saying.
But we have a difference of opinionon that. It's okay. Nonetheless,
they got through. Now it's understood, and I hope. I don't know

(36:31):
if my intelligence sources is accurate ornot, but it certainly could be.
And that is that they have sevennuclear warheads right now given to them by
the Russians and maybe even the Koreans. If they have that, they have
the delivery system, and if theypull that stunt, we are going into
World War three. It's going tobe massive. Israeli defense system is aware

(36:53):
of this, they're alerted to itand their concern because they were not able
to hypercon missiles are almost impossible tostop. You know, it's Christopher once.
He gave us a good briefing onthat about a year ago, and
so thank you for This is avery tense now. And if they if
they have, and this has beenthe worry that did the Iranians buy in

(37:14):
fact, did they either in thepast, do they buy black market nukes
or has this been part of whatVladimir Putin's been trading for all of the
drones that has been using in Ukraine. Either way, they have it,
of course the Israelis, and themost most conservative estimate puts them in having
one hundred and fifty nuclear weapons.I mean, it's probably more than that,
but it's that's the most conservative.They don't they never admit nor deny

(37:37):
that they have them. They justsmile and walk away. And it's literally
what they do. And so Imean it would be a conflagation. Hence
why Biden has done this. Ofcourse this causes a major problem politically for
Biden. It's two political impacts.One, it's given political cover to some
extent to Speaker Mike Johnson to passthe bills. For those that haven't been
paying attention, there is going tobe a series of separate bills, a

(38:00):
Ukraine bill, a Taiwan bill,a Israel bill, and a bill on
the board for separate bills. Right, and just to go to this,
the border bill is prevacly the Ithink all four will likely pass the House,
unless in different permutations. So forexample, it's not the same coalitions.

(38:22):
So while I think you'll you'll haveseveral, You'll have quite a few
Democrats in the Ukraine bill, you'llhave fewer Democrats, and almost every every
Republican on the Israeli bill. You'llhave ubiquitou support on both sides the island
the Taiwan bill, and you'd haveto have every Republican for the border bill.
But I don't see that. Maybeone or two might fall up,
but I think they'll pass. Theother bills will die. The border bill

(38:44):
will die in the Senate, itwon't even go up for hearing. The
Ukraine bill, Israel bill, andTaiwan bills will probably pass through. So
but the other side effect is that, remember the Biden administration was putting the
brakes on RAFA because it has majorpolitic problems in the Democratic Party. And
right now they're they're roughly I thinkit's there were twenty thousand pro Palestinian voters

(39:13):
in Michigan that rallied and said theywould not vote for Joe Biden. Now
understand this, the margin in Michiganwas fifty thousand votes last time. So
when you start talking about, youknow, one hundred thousand vot's, we
start talking about twenty thousand off thetable. And then you talk about RFK
Junior and Jill Stein and Cornell Westtaking other votes. It suddenly becomes a

(39:36):
real political problem for Joe Biden andhe by in order and so here's the
translation. In order to put stopthe World War three scenario Hi just talked
about, he had to give theIsraelis the other thing they wanted, which
was a free hand in Gaza.And in order to do that, it
might cost him the White House.And I'll give you, I'll give you,
I'll give you, Chris Rye.They're planning on winning this election with

(39:57):
illegal AGAs. That's why they're desperateto keep the doors open and pumping,
drawing and bringing in as many illegalaliens as they can. That is their
plan. There are those are thefuture Democrats, which will give the Democrat
Party complete control of this country forwho knows how far into the Okay,
that's the plan for the illegal Whywould they not want to protect our border?
Why they want to protect the craneborder. Oh that's so important.

(40:17):
I don't care about our boardy.It would be it would be quite a
feat for somebody who came in rightnow to be to be able to vote
in November, even if they theyfalsified every documentation. Yeah, but let
me not in Democrat control of areas, Chris forher uh uh uh, let
me let me no idea Hi yeah, hi Hi, Spanish ballots et cetera.

(40:39):
Eta no, no, no,no, right, may right now,
let me give you a different scenario, because another thing is they're giving
them driver's lives. I'm stiff comingwith that. I want to talk about
immigration, but not today. Oneof the things that's part of this bill.
That's what I'm saying, Well,no, it's one of the four
bills, and it's just but youknow, it's also not going there probably
on these bills. That's legalizing lg X sports from Louisiana, which I

(41:00):
was very enthusiastic about, but Imay not go. But one of the
things that is interesting is a sidebaron all of this, and we've only
got a minute. We'll talk moreabout what's happening in the legislative session next
week, but I want to bringthis up. Is the fact that there's
a bill before the Nebraska legislature tomake sure it's a winner to return Nebraska
to a winner take all state.The reason is Nebraska has the city of

(41:22):
Omaha, which is a swing area. Trump lost it in the last election,
won it in the previous election.It tends to go back and forth.
It's a relatively moderately liberal city,but it goes for Republicans about half
the time, Democrats about half time, and it's the rest of the state
overwhelmingly. So the bill is togo before the legislature. Why does this

(41:42):
matter, Well, look at thestates where Trump is ahead, including and
I'm including in this right now atleast prior to the abortion conversation, Arizona,
Georgia, and Nevada. If youfactor those states and the states that
Trump won last time but not Michigan, Pennsylvania, or Wisconsin, how many
votes electoral votes do you end upwith two hundred and sixty nine to two

(42:05):
hundred and sixty nine. So whathappens if Biden wins the popular vote,
Trump wins the but Trump wins twohundred and sixty nine votes, it's two
sixty nine and two sixty nine.It goes to the United States House representatives,
even if the Republicans are not incontrol. It's every state votes as
one. So it's the number ofstates in the House that vote, which
means that this bill before the Rascallegislation, which is changing the rules.

(42:30):
But then again, it's changing therules to what most every other state is
except for Michigan, except for amain Maine has direction by congressional district.
It is being done very deliberately underthis scenario. So even if Trump doesn't
win Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania, he can throw it in the House
and win it with the Republican strengthin multiple states in the House. So

(42:52):
it's kind of an interesting scenario.We're we'll talk more about that in the
coming weeks. We've got to takea quick commercial break. We'll be back
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(45:36):
is Chaplinhi mcchnry, you're listening tothe Founder Show, and it's not time
for us to go into our chaplain. Bye bye, Patriot moment. We
just take a brief moment to remindyou of the biblical foundations of our country,
our Judeo Christian jurisprudence, and ofcourse today one of our main topics
was parks, especially parks and NewOrleans, And I'd like to give you
a quote from one of the greatestpark enthusiasts and park moguls in the history

(46:00):
parks ours, if you will,in the history of America, And that's
not than Teddy Roosevelt, very timelyNational Parks Week. Yes, who can
be considered the founder of American parks, if you will, And we have
some great ones. This is whatTeddy said, A thorough knowledge of the
Bible is worth more than a collegeeducation. Hmm. Interesting. He had

(46:21):
a great college education, but hesaid knowledge the Bible is more important.
He went on to say, itdoes so arrest my soul to come into
the House of the Lord and worshipand to sing and to mean it Holy,
Holy, Holy, Lord, GodAlmighty, and to know that He
is my father and takes me upin his plans, and to commune with
Christ. I am sure that Iget wisdom not my own, and superhuman

(46:44):
strength for fighting the moral evils thatI'm fighting, folks. At near the
end of his life, World WarOne was on and the government asked him
to the government was going to issueBibles to all the soldiers, New Testament
and psalms to all the soldiers andin it. They wanted an introduction,
so they asked Tady to write theintroduction, and this is what he said.

(47:05):
He said, this is the Micahmandate for all Americans. He has
shown you, and quote from Mikethe Book of Micah. He has shown
you, oh man, what isgood and what the Lord requires of you,
but to do justice, to love, mercy, and to walk humbly
before your God. That's Michael sixtheight. Folks, I think Teddy Roosevelt
definitely want to keep God in governmentalong with all of our many great leaders

(47:29):
in this country from the very frompre pre colonial times, I mean colonial
times before the American Revolution, Folks. That's the real history of the Biblical
foundations of our country. There areI have literally over twenty thousand quotes and
references to our great leadership over theyears that have even up until recent times,

(47:50):
including of course one of our latestgreatest men of the Bible, and
that's Donald Trump. So, folks, let me tell you I share something
with you, and you know,as it said, walk humbly before you're
God, because now it's time forus to go in dark chaplain by by
gospel moment. Let's talk about walkinghumbly before God. You know, the
Bible says God resisteth the proud,but giveth grace to the humble. That

(48:13):
word grace means a free gift.That God is giving us a very important
free gift. He gives us lotsof free gifts, but this is the
biggest and the best one. Andif you miss this you might as well
forget all the rest of them.This is too important. It is the
single most important gift you will everget in your entire life, and that's
the gift of everlasting life. Youknow, if you have pride, you

(48:35):
will never be able to understand oraccept the Gospel, the gospels that Jesus
died for all of our sins isbarn and rose and the dead. It's
that simple, folks, you know, design for children. It's a simple
message. Jesus said, unless youcome as a little child, you shall
know whys enter in suffer the littlechildren company, for of such is a
kingdom of God. Well, folks, Humility is critical to get God's grace,

(48:55):
and the only way you get itis by repentance. The Scripture says,
godly sorrow worketh repentance. If youtake an honest look at your life,
and you realize I don't care howgood you are. In great you
are. Mother Theresa knew this aboutherself. All the great saints, all
the great men of God and womenof God that I've ever read of it,
they all understood this about themselves.Mother's reason the news she is a
loser on her own. She'd nevermake it. She knew that. I

(49:19):
know that about myself. It hasa humbling effect on the soul. And
when you get to that point,you can finally quit trying to help God
out by doing some kind of goodworks, religious words given to the church,
whatever you might be doing, they'reall kinds of things, being cool,
being charming, whatever you think yougot that's going to some kind of
way please God, or make youworthy to go to heaven. You have

(49:39):
nothing in you to make you worthy, So just forget that. And when
you do, that's called repentance.It's that simple. It happens in your
mind, in your heart. Itis a belief believing you cannot make it.
You'll never go to heaven. You'retoo hopeless and worthless to ever make
it, even though you're made inGod's image. It is a distorted it
is a fall and it is acorrupted image. Well, when you come

(50:00):
to that point, then the nextstep is to put faith alone, in
Christ alone. Jesus kept saying,repent and believe. Believe what Believe that
Jesus really did die for all yoursins, that he was buried, and
that he rose from the dead towin for you his precious free gift of
resurrection, everlasting life. And thesplit second you do that, you're God's
child forever. The Bible says,Jesus said, my Father will never let

(50:22):
you out of his hand once hegets you, and he says I'm never
letting you out of my hand.That means God's got a double grip on
your folks. How are you goingto get away from that? The Bible
says, absolutely nothing can separate youfrom the love of God, which is
in Christ Jesus. That was writtento born again Christians. Right at the
moment of belief, you become aborn again believer. That word born again
means your dead and dying spirit thatwas heading to hell is now revived and

(50:45):
made new and it has life,everlasting life. Well, folks, if
you've never done this before, pleasedo it now. Don't wait till it's
too late, like the old countrypreacher said, like the Word of God
says, now today is the dayof salvation. Well, folks, it
is time for us to go nowinto our chaplain blah blah testimony time we
either do a testimony, we bringout signs about how close to the end
of this period is, how closeit is that Jesus is coming back.

(51:07):
Folks, this is a wonderful testimony. It's about it. One of my
favorite missionaries, his name was GeorgeMueller. He was from Germany. He
moved to England to get finish hisseminary degree. He wanted to go to
the mission field. He thought ofexotic lands and what an exciting life a
missionary would have, and that's whathe wanted to do. But while he
was there, he noticed a lotof street kids like we have in our
ministry, and he noticed they didn'tthey even had places to live. He

(51:30):
started taking him into his his sparseapartment as a college student, started helping
him and from that grew the largestorphanage system in the history of the world.
He ended up with orphanages all overEngland and then guess what, at
the end of his life, hefinally got to go in the mission field
as an old man, and ofcourse he loved it. But for most

(51:51):
of his life he was building orphanage. He's taken care of orphans. And
the unique thing about George Mueller ishe never asked people for money. He's
one of the few preachers who neverever ask people for money. He would
ask God and he would trust Godfor it to come through. He wouldn't
even tell people what was going on, so they might say, oh,
he's building a new building. Wemay maybe we needed to help him.
He wouldn't even do that. Heonly kept his actions with God. If

(52:15):
you want to find out out whathe was doing, you'd have to go
see it. It's one of themost amazing stories George. Many times George
Mueller had no food in the cupboard, didn't know how he was going to
feed a hundred kids. And atthe end of the day somebody rolls up.
He's out front praying, and towardthe end of the day on his
front porch, somebody pulls up ina wagon full of food. That story
was told so many times about him, it's absolute stunning. We actually had

(52:37):
a man like him who patterned hisorphanage off of Mueller's, his old Baptist
preacher on the north shore of Fairhavenchildren so home, I saw him doing
the exact same thing. Listen,God, here's our prayers. And when
if you have the gift of faith, which obvious Mueller had and old brother
at fair Hope, brother Brown,then you're gonna get God's gonna move in

(52:59):
your life. I have seen thatin our own ministry many many times.
So, folks, thanks so muchfor being with us, and we look
forward to seeing you on the nextshow. That's chaplain hi mcgenry, which
and you have found farewell, readyour Bible, pray and trust the Lord
and all the things you do.God bless y'all out there. As we're
not closed with the mont Saint Martinsinging a creole goodbye? Does this have

(53:21):
to be the end of the net? You know I love you. In
the pamal Land, I can seeacross the million stars that look. We

(53:44):
can pose it's the sun. Isuppose you couldn't call it cras if we
take it just a
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