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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the home of the Wildcats. Six thirty WLAP
Welcome back, Stockyards Bank, Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with now I'm a partner on the Locker,
former teammate with the University of Kentucky Wildcats football team.
Van House and producer Boul Robinson, coming to you from
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Clark's Main Street Market Studios and beautiful downtown Lexington, Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Good morning, Van Hies. What do you got?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Good morning man? I don't want to throw the show
off the handes real quickly, but but do you listen
to the commercials? I do not.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
That was my chance to relax. I'm wine. What did
I miss?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I don't know if there's this commercial is advertising with
soda weight loss, s Ota weight loss.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
And one of the guys said butt pressure. I'm like, whoa,
it's too early in the morning. You're concerned about butt pressure? Yeah, well,
I guess a good lead in. I guess that woke
me up this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I tell you, I don't. I do know. There was
some uncomfortable and this may have been eight nine years ago.
There were some uncomfortable commercials that we did used to
listen to when we were at clear channel. Uh, okay,
off a new circle. So I think that's kind of
why I stopped listening, because there are some uncomfortable things.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
And I'm the producer and I couldn't tell you only
the ones that I have to pay attention to. I
don't know what some of these commercials say. And then
I got rid of killed in public. I can't believe
you played that, Coci. I'm like, I didn't do it.
I'm not the one that make the decisions on the commercials.
Don't blame me.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Oh, that's the worst part about it. It was it
was before a great commercial about a I think a
fireman dying in the organization given this family a five
a home and all this stuff. So it was like
it just didn't the order did not make sense either.
That is true.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Now BO is responsible for the order of the commercials,
right bow, So you do take responsibility for that a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yeah, there are some things I have to manipulate every
once in a while to keep things in order of
things on time, But as far as the ultimate decision,
that is way above my pay grade.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Okay, oh man, uh, if you do have time this
afternoon in between tailgating, or whatever park in the Barking Lot.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It is the same time though, because Otaga oh Way
will be signing autographs at ks Bar. It looks like
at two pm, so you can go over there and bow.
Will they have the the Puppy Bowl. I don't know
at two o'clock. I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Just if they do again, you can get always autograph
and tailgate on the Barking Lot. I'm sure it'll be
a great time.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Van House, Are you aware of the the Puppy Bowl? No,
you'd see the Puppy Bowl. So their puppies played football
and they it's kind of like it is kind of
like down the Man. They don't get formations of hand
the ball off or nothing. They just try to get
it back and forth through the end zone.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Right.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
They're just kicking toys on this little football field and
there's an official and there's all these great jokes and puns,
just like the Barking Lot. It's a lot of fun
and I think a couple of years ago they did
a documentary on how they filmed the Puppy Bowl, and
it's really interesting. I mean, imagine you've got I think
there's like one hundred and three participants.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
WHOA he didn't catch it, Go ahead, I got you.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
And so they have to coordinate all these puppy dogs
and it can be a little chaotic, but really the
cool thing is you find out about the stories of
the puppies. And I think there are two puppies from
the Kentucky Maine Society in Louisville being represented on Team
Ruff and Team Fluff today. I think one's name Colonel
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and the other one is named Julip. One of them
is making history and the Puppy Bowl. I've spent way
too much time prepping on this.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Wow, he is.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
The first Saint Bernard mix in the Puppy Bowl.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I think that's Julib And all participants. All participants get adopted,
right either just the winner, I think, I know.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I think that's the goal. They're trying to get all
of the dogs adopted. I thought they said they all
do like the absolutely all. Maybe they did understand. I
just don't know the backstory on that and how it
all works. But it's a fun time.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And they said that they don't split the litter like
they keep the the related ones together, even with the
the mother. If the mother, well, when the mother get adopted,
gets adopted, the the other puppies go with the mother.
And that's what I didn't understand, because they set up
to like five puppies would be adopted that are participating.
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I think there's a family of five some we're involved
in that, and if one guy adopted, I think all
five go with the mother or the other four go
with the mother, which I found interesting.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I just think the whole production of it is fascinating.
That this is the second biggest game on Super Bowl Sunday.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So so Athy, are you running gap scheme or you're
running wide zone with the puppies.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I hate wy zone. Tony Franklin to tell you that.
I hate Why is it's too complicated and everything has
to everything, everything has to line right.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Okay, that's fair. I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
We were talking. I don't know how much of a
basketball fan you are, and I know you're a big
UK fan. I know you follow women, follow track and
those things. But we were talking before Larry Finlehman called
in and he was asking about how we think we're
gonna fare against Tennessee. And I'm not sure if you
watched the Old Miss game. If you did, you probably
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weren't happy, but you probably weren't happy what happened at
Tennessee and Notville when we did beat them by five
points and they shot terribly, and Jack Pilgrim and Bo
Robinson and Carler Larry seems to think that when they
come to town, when the volunteers come to town, that we
can still beat them, although I think we've given up
the recipe. I think they shot terribly at Knoxville. Larry
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from Lebnon and Jack Pilgrim think that we have a
matchup advantage, so they think they're optimistic about the Tennessee game.
Here in Lexington, are you optimistic about it?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I don't know. I think we have probably the best
backdrop for shooters in the SEC, it seems because when
people come here, they've seen the shoot lights out. So
that's obviously because of the great arena that rup is
in the viewing points for a shooter. So I'm not
so sure, but it would be nice for us to
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sweep them this year. But getting Butler back it's going
to help us out a lot. So you know what, Yes, man,
I'm gonna go with Jacket and a caller and we're
gonna beat them by.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Ten at home ten.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Sheh, we beating them by ten at home, and look,
it's gonna be fifteen. But but then Tennessee's gonna go
on a little, a little hot streak while we're trying
to run a clock out shoot of three and get
two three throws.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
How about that ten points? There's a lot of points.
I'm John short saying five Biggins. I think I'll take
the five Biggins.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
But she know how big is fifty? Isn't it?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Huh? No?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Not five? No, no five biggest? And John, there's one
big and per there's one big and per point at
one point per biggest. Okay, I got you and I didn't.
I did not see the Arkansas game. He did say
big z went got on fire, but Arkansas still lost.
Are you are you keeping track of John Caliperi and
Arkansas Razorbacks? Are you rooting against him? And are you
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keeping track John cali Perry?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Who is that? No? I don't look, I'm a big
blue supporter. I'm not a hater. Once they're not here?
Why why did to worry about them? That? There's there's
nothing that I need to be concerned with any other
team in this conference except US, and so no, I don't.
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I don't even know where that guy's at now, to
be honest with you, I mean, I've heard he's somewhere,
but I don't pay attention that. That's that's none of
the luck, that's none of my business, right there are
other people's business. Then you'll be straight.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And I know we discussed this last week on the show.
And the only reason I say that because you said
you're not worried about when they leave here or one
of the two coaches, whoever, when they leave here, they
leave here. But I did get more background than we
did talk about last Wednesday. Read Shepherd's attire after the
Arkansas game or prior to the Arkansas game, and people
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were mad that he had an Arkansas razor backshirt on
in Kentucky shorts, which I think it caught more steam
than it should have. I even caught national attention one
because the kid is from Kentucky, and I guess he
supports Arkansas because his coach is at Arkansas now. So
it's kind of based off of what you're saying, is well,
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when his coach left, he's still a Kentucky kid and
he still played at Kentucky. I'm not sure why he's
supporting Arkansas. He could support the coach. I'm not certain
why he's supporting Arkansas in general? What does Arkansas have
to do with him? Besides was I guess he was
gonna come to Kentucky anyways? What do he have went
to Arkansas if he didn't, If he wasn't the one
that done. Do you think he would have went to Arkansas? No,
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so I'm not certain.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I'm ninety nine point nine percent certain that he would
have stayed at Kentucky. Here's the deal, Anthon, and this
is how I feel about this. As a former player.
I'm not recheppersau. I'm sure how he thought, but I
know how I would think in this situation. Is I
came to Kentucky for for the for the UK and
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for the coach, right and in my only year here
from a player standpoint, the way that my coach was
talked about shamee a little. It's probably gonna affect me
a little bit. So when I leave, I want to
show that guy's support when he comes back to Kentucky.
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So that's the reason why I think he wore the
Arkansas shirt to show support for the guy that he
thinks got treated a little bit rudely by the faithful,
and if it wasn't that way. I think if if
cal would have would have left because his contract ended
or whatever he is, I don't think he would have
wore Arkansas That's just me.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Alam boy. What do you think on that topic? He's
probably feeling called now read Sheppard correct? Yes? Do you think?
Do you do you foult him for supporting calib Perry
or I get you. I liked the whole Arkansas date
all together.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I get it, understand why he did it, but I
just think there could have been a little more care
in the decision of how am I going to do this?
How am I going to show support to my coach
but support the University of Kentucky and support the Big
Blue Nation. It would have been fine if he wore
a Kentucky hat and maybe a pair of Arkansas shwarts
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and a white T shirt. I don't know how you
do it, but shouldn't have. Somebody said you better think
about this before you do it. I wonder what those
conversations were like. That's what I'm interested in. It's over with,
it's done. You know what, ten years down the road
are we going to be talking about this. Do you
remember when Rad Shepherd did that and he turned it
back on us all maybe not. We'll have another enthusiastic
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discussion about it. But as I was telling folks this week,
held is Reed Shepherd right now, what do you say
twenty years old?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I would say nineteen twenty. I would think twenty.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
You were that age too, Van myself, we were all
that age and we did something, or we made a
joke and we realized we shouldn't have done that, We
crashed and burned. If he thought he was just being
cute and he was going to show support to both teams,
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maybe he just didn't think about it. He's a kid,
not necessarily defending what he did. But I'm just kind
of looking at both sides of it.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I'll give you this both. I'll give both of you
guys this if he does something else. If he does
something else as Vance stated, to kind of show that
he's supporting the coach that we I guess ran out
of here or ridicules, if he does something else, then
I'll be concerned. But at this point I'm going to
stick with Bow and say, you know, maybe it's ill
tasted and may not do it now. If you support
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him again in some manner, say they go deeper in
the in March madness than we do. Say they go
deeper in the tournament and we're doing you start openly
supporting it, I will a little bit be questionable, But
I don't know if you should outright these support I
don't and we don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
The conversations that Reid had with Jeff and Stacey was it, Hey, mom, Dan,
I'm thinking about doing this, showing a little support to
Caliperry and my team. How do I go about this?
Did that ever happen? Did Jeff and Stacy say? Wait
a minute, son, you better think about this. You better
think about what's going to happen in the repercussions.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Hey boy, why am I involving my parents when I'm
nineteen twenty years old, living on my.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Own and making millions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I don't think I'm calling Mama, that's me. I mean,
I think I'm at the age and the position in
my career where I can make that decision on my own.
Now I might warn them. Hey guys, look, I want
to let y'all know I'm gonna do this. So mom, dad,
I'm getting ready for it.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Mom, Dad, I'm getting ready to put you off for
the ringer here, And I apologize, I really do, but
here's what's getting ready to happen. I mean, we don't know.
He may just threw it on and thought, you know what,
I'm gonna be funny and I'm gonna do this. Yeah,
and he's a kid. I'm not going to throw him
under the bus for it. It's done. It's over with.
It's a topic of discussion like we are doing now.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Time to move and you guys are doing too much
discussing because we have bills to pace. So we got
ahead to a break. We will be back after this year.
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to eight zero cats. Two pieces of business before we
get to the phone lines. Is always signing has changed
from one not two o'clock. It is now because they
have a film session. It is from one pm to
two thirty pm at kaz Bar. I guess they didn't
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want it to compete with the Puppy Bowl. And ky
Tom did tweet in that he thinks, and which is
a pretty good take, that he thinks that Reed Shepherd
was supporting his teammates, his former teammates, the ones that
did not go to the NBA, as well as his coach.
So it may have been more support for his teammates
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instead of the University of Arkansas.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
And I can understand that too now that that makes
a lot worse. So he played with those dudes, right right.
Let's get to the phone lines and see what Alvin
has to say. Good morning, Alvin, would you got for us? Hey, guys,
how's it going?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Hello?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Do you hear me? Yes, sir? Good morning. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
I had a couple observations. I thought the Kentucky team
played better from previous games. Obviously, Butler's return with instrumental
in winning yesterday I thought it was a good game,
but I did want to throw my Super Bowl. I'll
score after I think the Chiefs win it today thirty
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eight thirty five. It's going to be important for jaaling
Hurst to protect the ball and for Barkley not to
have any fumbles on important drives to keep the game,
to keep the game close. So I want to throw
that observation out there. But yeah, I think it's important
that the team came together. The players with Butler in
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the game was significant. Seemingly, Anthony cars Back is a
little more healthier after whatever therapeutic cheat when he got
to make it make his muscles stronger. But I did
want to you and Vane Howse to throw around this question.
I thought, because both of you are football guys in
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American sports, which position is the most important to the
team a point guard in basketball or a quarterback in football?
So I want to find out what you guys opinion
is on that, and you guys enjoy the Super Bowl
and enjoy all the festivities surrounding that event. Tonight, Thank
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you a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Thank you for the call. Alvin van House. What do
you think is more important quarterback in football or point
guard in basketball? I think it's kind of obvious.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
But I mean, I don't think it's close. But you're
probably gonna disagree with me because you don't like me.
I think the point guard is the most important because
I think he can this fingerprint on a game way
more than a quarterback. Because the quarterback is relying on
the office and line, the block, and the receivers to
run good routes, receivers to catch the ball. There's a
whole lot. There's more variables involved in football than in basketball.
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Like I topped the ball on the locker, wins say
it's not paying me suspend the time. How when the
Lakers played in the bubble when they got Rondo back,
how that team was totally different than when he was
out because he made everybody's job easier. He puts everybody
in the role that they are supposed to be in.
So I'm gonna always say the point guard, even though
I love football, in this situation, in this question, I
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think it's easy to say the point guard.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
When we got about thirty six, I will not have
to disagree as you, as you already know, are probably
gonna disagree with you anyways. And I disagree with you
for the reasons that if you have a game plan.
And I was going to bring this up earlier because
Jack had said something throughout the game that he thought
the team was playing uninspired, and I feel like, if
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you're missing your key player, it looks like uninspired. But
they weren't uninspired that my cousinly have a couple seconds.
My answer is this, I think it's tougher for a
quarterback because during a basketball game, you can rotate a
lot of people to play point guard of some sort.
You don't just throw anybody at quarterback and still be
successful in your offense. Doesn't sputter. You can put You
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can rotate people at We brought Marii Williams. Let's bringing
the ball up the court, so he kind of playing
with little point guard. So you can always find a
way to make the point guard work with any player.
You can't do that with a quarterback. We will be
back after this. You were listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday
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This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
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White along with Van Hys and Bo Robinson.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
And Taylor Swift. I screwed that one up for Tino.
She requested this as funny we are never getting back
together by Taylor Sweat for Lim Cohen.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Oh wow, Wow.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
I pulled the wrong song. My apologies.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Well, see if nobody would have knew, we could have
fixed it.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
We could have, So I'll make good on it next hour. Well,
I'm not up to date on all the Taylor songs,
but I do think she's going to win the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
This our Sunday Morning Sports Talkers, brought to you by
Country Boy Brewing. We do have the phone lines lit up,
but I did want to talk about our because talking
about Lim Cohen, I know, we talked about Mark Pope's
going to ask Van Howes about Mark the job Mark
Pope is doing, but which is a huge story I
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think between Van and I, especially being former players, and
kind of the climate of sports at this point, especially
here in University of Kentucky. Is what Rachel Lawson had
to say in her press conference. But we are going
to discuss that once we get off the phone lines,
and if you want to join, the phone has eight
five nine to eight zero two to eighty seven eight five,
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nine to eight zero. Cat, Let's see what Lou has
to say. Good morning, Lou. What do you got for us?
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Can you hear me? Now?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I got you all right?
Speaker 7 (21:14):
You know the last football game, you know, we watched
h Cutter Bowley play and then he went out and
then the other kid come in Winstat and Brock Vanderbrelt.
He just sat there, you know, and then after the season.
Now correct me if I'm wrong in any of this.
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We hear that he's just giving up football. You know,
that makes no sense to me whatsoever. And my question
is if you got anything to add to that, is
he's still on campus, is in class as he left,
he's dropped out school? If he transferred to another school,
that's just the weirdest thing I've ever heard in my life.
A kid got one more elga built your as ability last,
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you know, good solid quarterback. A lot of schools he
could go to and start, you know, especially you know,
maybe a lower level whatever. But that's just weird what
y'all know about that.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Thank you for the call, Lou. We've talked about that
on on Wednesday night as Van State at nine pm
to ten pm Eastern Standard time, Van. From what I hear,
he hasn't transferred to another school. I'm not certain if
he's still enrolled in the university at the University of Kentucky.
It seems as if he is. I have her rumors, No,
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nothing factual. I have her rumors that he's given a
football altogether, giving you know, transferring twice, given those type
of things. Van, As a former player, are you with
Lou that it's it's kind of wild? Did you just
stop playing something that you've probably played for twenty years
of your life? Or is it that?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Man?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
This is you've tried to Georgia, You've tried it here?
As Whims said, he's is he going to play his
third school?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah? So yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Do you think it's that outlandish that Brock may have
walked away from the game or you do you know
otherwise that he hasn't walked away from the game and
you don't think there's anything wrong with it.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
No, I definitely think he walked away from the game.
I'm gonna give a little something before I get to Brock.
We both with the great John Sloman, and I'll never
forget John Sloman's senior year. We were in the same
recruiting class and I came back and he was like, man,
I'm just after this season, I'm done with football. A
guy who was an All SEC old lineman could have
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definitely played in the NFL, but his heart was just
in it. I think that's the same thing with Brock.
I don't think fans understand how how tough and mentally
draining and physically training and playing college football is because
you you have to get your books, plus you have
to commit to your other brothers on the team and
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come to practice, do all the other stuff. That that's
the deal with football. And when that when he got
his first taste of being the starter, and how those
defensive linement defensive end comes at you and those injuries
start to pile up, It start to test your will
and if I really want to do this. So it's
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not strange for me because I've seen it happen before.
I wish him best, and I know in the back
of his mind he had other things that aspirations anyway,
So this just started that that journey early.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Does it bring the question how how early this may
have went into kind of played into his mind. I mean,
like during the season, one thing you did state is
you're responsible for a lot of other people like you quarterback,
throwing the throwing you into traffic, or not getting you
into the right plays and things like that. Do you
question at any point that how how early is crept
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into his mind? Did it creep into his mind during
the middle of season where I don't know if I
want to do this, and now you like say, you're
liable for ten other players on the field and the
other eleven other players on the other side of the
ball because the defense needs rest. We need you to
sustain some of these drives. We can't have you going
three and now we can't have you not getting.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Us in the right right I think it crept into
his mind week one. I remember why not at Georgia.
He's not at Georgia. He's he's not. And the old line,
as we can all admit, wasn't the greatest. I don't
think there was as bad as people are letting on
him to be, but they were not the greatest. So
this was the first time where he didn't have half
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time probably in his career since probably Little League. And
he got pounded the first week of the season. If
you remember that South Carolina game, he came out kind
of a little iffy, And I think that is the
point of playing that position and having to endure that
kind of contact. I think people don't understand how difficult
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that is. Don't think he understood until he faced who
was the first three faced And after that game, I
think he was so beat up that he was like, man,
I'm not sure that I'm built for this.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Hm, that is quite interesting. Southern Miss, Yes, yep. What
was this a first game of season? Southern Miss and
we played South Carolina then Georgia, Yes.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yep, that's it. Remember remember he was on the he
was on the injury report after week one and he
didn't play so well week two, and there were rumblings
of an injury. We talked about it. So to go
through that and never have to do he played on
a great team in high school. He probably never got touched.
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He went to Georgia, wasn't a starter. He got into
garbage time. Mean, you know, Georgia garbage time players are
better than other teams garbage time players. So he probably
didn't get hit there either. And that ain't get to
a situation where people are game playing against him, and
and and the old line in front of him isn't
a big blue wall. He's a little different.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I did say we were going to talk about the
Rachel lost In comments, but this kind of ties into that.
When you get to thinking about everybody's worried about the
state of University of Kentucky football. Uh kind of concerned
as if as if what Stoops is doing is he
cleaning house or people leaving because they're not happy? Is
a program crumbling? And this is directly related to the
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comments that Rachel Lawston had, But this kind of ties
into the Brock Vandergriff situation. Is not only the hitting
on the football field, man, I don't know the recommitment
that Stoops is making to hisself to the team, to
Big Blue Nation. I guess just the school in general
is that I'm not gonna be handcuffed by anybody. I'm
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not gonna be I'm not gonna be held hostage. So
there's that part of is Brock Vandergriff. I'm sure he
was getting a pretty good piece of nil pie? Is
do I want to return this year knowing that I
didn't produce as much as I wanted to. Now coach
are having these exit meetings that if you come back
next year. We're not gonna pay you this much. And
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I really don't think it was a money thing why
he decided he's not gonna come back. But as you said,
you really the coach Stuss recommitted hisself. You gotta recommit yourself.
And some of the things you said, are you gonna
come back next year? Are you gonna be mentally ready?
Are you willing to pay? I wonder if the nil
money was really really good, do you think he'll come
back or you you stick to your guns that you
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think it's just it was. You know, the mental part
wasn't there, So no amount of money was gonna bring
it back.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
For the Brock situation, I don't think anyone is gonna
bring him back. He's a he's a country boy. You know,
his coach actually coached down here at Baton Ridge years ago.
I don't think. I don't think his lifestyle is dictated
by money, So for him, I don't, I honestly don't
believe that money was the fact that Well for Brock,
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now that's not the same the other guys. For the team,
it didn't matter. But for Brock, I'm gonna say it's
very low.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
And the comments I keep making correct me if I'm wrong. Van,
I'm a paraphrase that Rachel Lawson was visibly emotional at
media day at softball media Day, and she spoke openly
about and I don't know how really to take advanced
She was her loyal to you. She thinks her loyal
to tee to her players, some of I don't know
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if any particular players or maybe just players in general,
like some people should not have gotten as much time
or as much whatever, and she felt like it costs
the team and she felt like she let herself down.
I think she felt like she let the team down,
and I don't think she had the She feels like
as if she didn't have the product she wanted last year.
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And I guess you kind of lost the season. Like
you don't get time back. Speci said, our is you know,
forty men, forties and up, you're not getting this time back.
You're not getting any younger players don't get their year
of eligibility back. If you don't get a mulligan for
a season that you didn't play well. But I found
that I've always liked coach Losson, but I found that
pretty neat that she was open and honest and candid
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about some of the things that she made that she did,
and she got emotional about it, which meant, you know,
it must have really been eating her up inside. And
I think that kind of goes into some of the
loyalty Caliperi had when he was here, some of the
loyalty that Mark Stoops has why he's here. So I
don't know if there's not a coach on campus that
may not be dealing with that same thing. Maybe, Yeah,
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Minji On at some point last year got emotional about
you know, some of the pressure that was that was
on him during plan. But what was your thoughts on
Rachel lost and being open that she was think she
was over too loyal to a team and she felt
like it cost them some victories you call them some
morale on the on the softball team.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I honestly think it was great to hear because it's
it's a balancing act. I mean, when you go into
a seventeen at ye old high school prospect living room
with their parents and you say the things you say
to get them to come to your university, I'm gonna
take care of them. I'm gonna make sure that they
are good people. Are they gonna be great women and
great men after they have their time with us at
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this at this institution. So now you you get them
on campus and you feel like you have to have
some loyalty to them because you said those things to
them and to their parents. And now you get into
the situation where maybe you give them too long of
a rope, and because you because coaches are human and
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sometimes players can't ask you. Guys always said that I
was coach Courage's favorite. Sometimes a particular player can tug
the hard strings of a coach and that's a tough one.
I can I can see that being an issue. I mean,
if you go back to Lynn Bolden and it coach Stut's,
it goes marrow right. I'm not sure other players would
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have gotten the linked or rope that was given to
Lynn Bolden without that relationship that they had with him.
And that sometimes it goes the other way where you
have a guy like guy who you spell on the
team now that now is at LSU, maybe he got
too much rope and you have to live and die
with that because the most important thing on in in
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the program is the relationships. It's a relationship between players
a player, the relationship between players and coaches, lationship between
players and in the in the trainers like all that
is important, and sometimes it can cross that that gray area,
and and sometimes it can. It can, as you say,
lose a season, not totally lose a season, but it
can affect the season to the point where you you
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might lost games that you shouldn't. And I'm honestly glad
that she said it, especially in this era in the NIL,
because it does play at.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Dennis hold On, Dennis wants to join the Dennis hold On,
I don't want to put you up against the breaks.
When we come back, we'll get to the phone lines.
We will be back after this. You were listening to
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Speaker 1 (33:13):
This is the home of the Wildcuts six thirty w
l AP.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on Anthony
White along with Van House and producer Bo Robinson. We're
talking about UK coaching, UK Basketball, Super Bowl, Sunday, Pup
Puppy Bowl, talking a lot of different things, actually softball.
Rachel Larson has the Girls four and oh thus far
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and had an emotional media day but let's get to
the phone lines. And since Dennis was patient enough to
wait through Good morning, Dennis, what do you got for us?
Speaker 8 (33:50):
Hey, guys, I'm glad y'all talking about the Rachel Lost
deal because that's been on my mind all week. And
that's say actually why I was calling about. It was
great to hear her and the comments that she made
here being so honest, and I'll be glad you guys
have her on here soon on the Sunday morning. But uh,
but when I heard her comments, I'm like, this sounds
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like what Marks Tukes has been doing since the n
I L and the portal era begins. And for example
and I and to me, there's more more examples than
barry On Brown. And I'll get y'all safed on this,
but it seems like to me that they force fed
barry On Brown, whether it was to keep them happy
or whatever, they force sped him the football when he
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when actually he never really produced what his hype was
other than kickoff returns. Yeah, I mean, only really one
pass player he could run I was the post and
to me, jimur Michael in the last three games of
the season. To me, Jamour and Michaelin showed in those
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three games that he should have been the primary receiver downfield.
What's y'all's take on that.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Well, thank you for the call, Dennis. There has been
some rumor. I've had this discussion at the water tank
at work, and there's some people who thought that Barrion
Brown was probably one of the most dynamic players in
our team, and thought he was one of the most important.
And so we went back and forth for a little
wild van house and we had to pull up the
statistics and the last year his junior his junior year,
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he did not produce hardly any as a dentist at
except for on special teams. And that's what I explained
to them. I kind of said, well, if how many
punts are you returning the game, how many kickoffs are
you getting the game? So you know, how many opportunities
are you getting for whatever investment in Nil And I
do think there was probably allocation of touches that went
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to him as well. Not knocking the kid, I believe
the kid at all. But I'm spot on with Dennis
on that that maybe that's some of the stuff that
Rachel is doing. I don't know if Mark Stupents is
doing that. Maybe because of the difference in salaries, it's
something Mark Stupent's may not do publicly, or maybe he
may not have a lot of remorse. But let you
respond to to Dennis.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, that is part of the that's part of the deal.
But you have to also understand that he is the
most dynamic player you have on the team and you're
trying to get them touches. Now I don't like the
way that they try to get them touches, but you
have to try to give your player who's the most dynamic,
opportunities to make big plays. And then the way our
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offense were, I guess was operating that kind of we
needed that more than ever. Look, there are situations where
the OCCS like, how can I get us all the ten?
And some of that is when my old line is
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not blocking, Well, let's run a jet sweep or a screen. Also,
in some of those situations, the quarterbacks last year didn't
identify the Oprah receiver whom was a lot of times
Jamary Macklin and decided not to throw it to him.
So some of that is on the coach and some
of that is on the player because at the end
of the day. As the quarterback, you have the last
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decision on who the throw it to and who not to.
And I think in a lot of situations, I guess
they were told to throw it to maybe Barry and Brown,
But then there's a lot of situations where Baron Brown
wasn't open. You don't throw it to him when there's
another guy wide open. So that that responsibility goes on
both the coach and the player in a lot of situations.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
And before we go to break back, Brock vander Griff
is in Georgia. He has retired from football. He is
in Georgia doing medical sales, medical device sales, so he
has it is confirmed from several sources that he has
walked away from the game. He has retired and as
and said, maybe money may not be a thing, but
there's some pretty good money in medical equipment sales, and
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that is what Brock Vandergriff is doing in Georgia. We
don't continue this conversation at the top of the hour.
We'll be back after this year. Listening Stockyards Bank Sunday
morning Sports Talk on news Radio six thirty WLAP
This is the home of the Wildcats. Six thirty WLAP
Welcome back, Stockyards Bank, Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with now I'm a partner on the Locker,
former teammate with the University of Kentucky Wildcats football team.
Van House and producer Boul Robinson, coming to you from
(00:21):
Clark's Main Street Market Studios and beautiful downtown Lexington, Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Good morning, Van Hies. What do you got?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Good morning man? I don't want to throw the show
off the handes real quickly, but but do you listen
to the commercials? I do not.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
That was my chance to relax. I'm wine. What did
I miss?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I don't know if there's this commercial is advertising with
soda weight loss, s Ota weight loss.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
And one of the guys said butt pressure. I'm like, whoa,
it's too early in the morning. You're concerned about butt pressure? Yeah, well,
I guess a good lead in. I guess that woke
me up this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I tell you, I don't. I do know. There was
some uncomfortable and this may have been eight nine years ago.
There were some uncomfortable commercials that we did used to
listen to when we were at clear channel. Uh, okay,
off a new circle. So I think that's kind of
why I stopped listening, because there are some uncomfortable things.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
And I'm the producer and I couldn't tell you only
the ones that I have to pay attention to. I
don't know what some of these commercials say. And then
I got rid of killed in public. I can't believe
you played that, Coci. I'm like, I didn't do it.
I'm not the one that make the decisions on the commercials.
Don't blame me.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Oh, that's the worst part about it. It was it
was before a great commercial about a I think a
fireman dying in the organization given this family a five
a home and all this stuff. So it was like
it just didn't the order did not make sense either.
That is true.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Now BO is responsible for the order of the commercials,
right bow, So you do take responsibility for that a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yeah, there are some things I have to manipulate every
once in a while to keep things in order of
things on time, But as far as the ultimate decision,
that is way above my pay grade.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Okay, oh man, uh, if you do have time this
afternoon in between tailgating, or whatever park in the Barking Lot.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It is the same time though, because Otaga oh Way
will be signing autographs at ks Bar. It looks like
at two pm, so you can go over there and bow.
Will they have the the Puppy Bowl. I don't know
at two o'clock. I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Just if they do again, you can get always autograph
and tailgate on the Barking Lot. I'm sure it'll be
a great time.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Van House, Are you aware of the the Puppy Bowl? No,
you'd see the Puppy Bowl. So their puppies played football
and they it's kind of like it is kind of
like down the Man. They don't get formations of hand
the ball off or nothing. They just try to get
it back and forth through the end zone.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Right.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
They're just kicking toys on this little football field and
there's an official and there's all these great jokes and puns,
just like the Barking Lot. It's a lot of fun
and I think a couple of years ago they did
a documentary on how they filmed the Puppy Bowl, and
it's really interesting. I mean, imagine you've got I think
there's like one hundred and three participants.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
WHOA he didn't catch it, Go ahead, I got you.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
And so they have to coordinate all these puppy dogs
and it can be a little chaotic, but really the
cool thing is you find out about the stories of
the puppies. And I think there are two puppies from
the Kentucky Maine Society in Louisville being represented on Team
Ruff and Team Fluff today. I think one's name Colonel
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and the other one is named Julip. One of them
is making history and the Puppy Bowl. I've spent way
too much time prepping on this.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Wow, he is.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
The first Saint Bernard mix in the Puppy Bowl.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I think that's Julib And all participants. All participants get adopted,
right either just the winner, I think, I know.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I think that's the goal. They're trying to get all
of the dogs adopted. I thought they said they all
do like the absolutely all. Maybe they did understand. I
just don't know the backstory on that and how it
all works. But it's a fun time.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And they said that they don't split the litter like
they keep the the related ones together, even with the
the mother. If the mother, well, when the mother get adopted,
gets adopted, the the other puppies go with the mother.
And that's what I didn't understand, because they set up
to like five puppies would be adopted that are participating.
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I think there's a family of five some we're involved
in that, and if one guy adopted, I think all
five go with the mother or the other four go
with the mother, which I found interesting.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I just think the whole production of it is fascinating.
That this is the second biggest game on Super Bowl Sunday.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So so Athy, are you running gap scheme or you're
running wide zone with the puppies.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I hate wy zone. Tony Franklin to tell you that.
I hate Why is it's too complicated and everything has
to everything, everything has to line right.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Okay, that's fair. I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
We were talking. I don't know how much of a
basketball fan you are, and I know you're a big
UK fan. I know you follow women, follow track and
those things. But we were talking before Larry Finlehman called
in and he was asking about how we think we're
gonna fare against Tennessee. And I'm not sure if you
watched the Old Miss game. If you did, you probably
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weren't happy, but you probably weren't happy what happened at
Tennessee and Notville when we did beat them by five
points and they shot terribly, and Jack Pilgrim and Bo
Robinson and Carler Larry seems to think that when they
come to town, when the volunteers come to town, that we
can still beat them, although I think we've given up
the recipe. I think they shot terribly at Knoxville. Larry
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from Lebnon and Jack Pilgrim think that we have a
matchup advantage, so they think they're optimistic about the Tennessee game.
Here in Lexington, are you optimistic about it?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I don't know. I think we have probably the best
backdrop for shooters in the SEC, it seems because when
people come here, they've seen the shoot lights out. So
that's obviously because of the great arena that rup is
in the viewing points for a shooter. So I'm not
so sure, but it would be nice for us to
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sweep them this year. But getting Butler back it's going
to help us out a lot. So you know what, Yes, man,
I'm gonna go with Jacket and a caller and we're
gonna beat them by.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Ten at home ten.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Sheh, we beating them by ten at home, and look,
it's gonna be fifteen. But but then Tennessee's gonna go
on a little, a little hot streak while we're trying
to run a clock out shoot of three and get
two three throws.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
How about that ten points? There's a lot of points.
I'm John short saying five Biggins. I think I'll take
the five Biggins.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
But she know how big is fifty? Isn't it?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Huh? No?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Not five? No, no five biggest? And John, there's one
big and per there's one big and per point at
one point per biggest. Okay, I got you and I didn't.
I did not see the Arkansas game. He did say
big z went got on fire, but Arkansas still lost.
Are you are you keeping track of John Caliperi and
Arkansas Razorbacks? Are you rooting against him? And are you
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keeping track John cali Perry?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Who is that? No? I don't look, I'm a big
blue supporter. I'm not a hater. Once they're not here?
Why why did to worry about them? That? There's there's
nothing that I need to be concerned with any other
team in this conference except US, and so no, I don't.
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I don't even know where that guy's at now, to
be honest with you, I mean, I've heard he's somewhere,
but I don't pay attention that. That's that's none of
the luck, that's none of my business, right there are
other people's business. Then you'll be straight.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And I know we discussed this last week on the show.
And the only reason I say that because you said
you're not worried about when they leave here or one
of the two coaches, whoever, when they leave here, they
leave here. But I did get more background than we
did talk about last Wednesday. Read Shepherd's attire after the
Arkansas game or prior to the Arkansas game, and people
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were mad that he had an Arkansas razor backshirt on
in Kentucky shorts, which I think it caught more steam
than it should have. I even caught national attention one
because the kid is from Kentucky, and I guess he
supports Arkansas because his coach is at Arkansas now. So
it's kind of based off of what you're saying, is well,
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when his coach left, he's still a Kentucky kid and
he still played at Kentucky. I'm not sure why he's
supporting Arkansas. He could support the coach. I'm not certain
why he's supporting Arkansas in general? What does Arkansas have
to do with him? Besides was I guess he was
gonna come to Kentucky anyways? What do he have went
to Arkansas if he didn't, If he wasn't the one
that done. Do you think he would have went to Arkansas? No,
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so I'm not certain.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I'm ninety nine point nine percent certain that he would
have stayed at Kentucky. Here's the deal, Anthon, and this
is how I feel about this. As a former player.
I'm not recheppersau. I'm sure how he thought, but I
know how I would think in this situation. Is I
came to Kentucky for for the for the UK and
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for the coach, right and in my only year here
from a player standpoint, the way that my coach was
talked about shamee a little. It's probably gonna affect me
a little bit. So when I leave, I want to
show that guy's support when he comes back to Kentucky.
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So that's the reason why I think he wore the
Arkansas shirt to show support for the guy that he
thinks got treated a little bit rudely by the faithful,
and if it wasn't that way. I think if if
cal would have would have left because his contract ended
or whatever he is, I don't think he would have
wore Arkansas That's just me.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Alam boy. What do you think on that topic? He's
probably feeling called now read Sheppard correct? Yes? Do you think?
Do you do you foult him for supporting calib Perry
or I get you. I liked the whole Arkansas date
all together.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I get it, understand why he did it, but I
just think there could have been a little more care
in the decision of how am I going to do this?
How am I going to show support to my coach
but support the University of Kentucky and support the Big
Blue Nation. It would have been fine if he wore
a Kentucky hat and maybe a pair of Arkansas shwarts
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and a white T shirt. I don't know how you
do it, but shouldn't have. Somebody said you better think
about this before you do it. I wonder what those
conversations were like. That's what I'm interested in. It's over with,
it's done. You know what, ten years down the road
are we going to be talking about this. Do you
remember when Rad Shepherd did that and he turned it
back on us all maybe not. We'll have another enthusiastic
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discussion about it. But as I was telling folks this week,
held is Reed Shepherd right now, what do you say
twenty years old?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I would say nineteen twenty. I would think twenty.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
You were that age too, Van myself, we were all
that age and we did something, or we made a
joke and we realized we shouldn't have done that, We
crashed and burned. If he thought he was just being
cute and he was going to show support to both teams,
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maybe he just didn't think about it. He's a kid,
not necessarily defending what he did. But I'm just kind
of looking at both sides of it.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I'll give you this both. I'll give both of you
guys this if he does something else. If he does
something else as Vance stated, to kind of show that
he's supporting the coach that we I guess ran out
of here or ridicules, if he does something else, then
I'll be concerned. But at this point I'm going to
stick with Bow and say, you know, maybe it's ill
tasted and may not do it now. If you support
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him again in some manner, say they go deeper in
the in March madness than we do. Say they go
deeper in the tournament and we're doing you start openly
supporting it, I will a little bit be questionable, But
I don't know if you should outright these support I
don't and we don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
The conversations that Reid had with Jeff and Stacey was it, Hey, mom, Dan,
I'm thinking about doing this, showing a little support to
Caliperry and my team. How do I go about this?
Did that ever happen? Did Jeff and Stacy say? Wait
a minute, son, you better think about this. You better
think about what's going to happen in the repercussions.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Hey boy, why am I involving my parents when I'm
nineteen twenty years old, living on my.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Own and making millions of dollars.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I don't think I'm calling Mama, that's me. I mean,
I think I'm at the age and the position in
my career where I can make that decision on my own.
Now I might warn them. Hey guys, look, I want
to let y'all know I'm gonna do this. So mom, dad,
I'm getting ready for it.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Mom, Dad, I'm getting ready to put you off for
the ringer here, And I apologize, I really do, but
here's what's getting ready to happen. I mean, we don't know.
He may just threw it on and thought, you know what,
I'm gonna be funny and I'm gonna do this. Yeah,
and he's a kid. I'm not going to throw him
under the bus for it. It's done. It's over with.
It's a topic of discussion like we are doing now.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Time to move and you guys are doing too much
discussing because we have bills to pace. So we got
ahead to a break. We will be back after this year.
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Radio six thirty WLAP.
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to eight zero cats. Two pieces of business before we
get to the phone lines. Is always signing has changed
from one not two o'clock. It is now because they
have a film session. It is from one pm to
two thirty pm at kaz Bar. I guess they didn't
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want it to compete with the Puppy Bowl. And ky
Tom did tweet in that he thinks, and which is
a pretty good take, that he thinks that Reed Shepherd
was supporting his teammates, his former teammates, the ones that
did not go to the NBA, as well as his coach.
So it may have been more support for his teammates
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instead of the University of Arkansas.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
And I can understand that too now that that makes
a lot worse. So he played with those dudes, right right.
Let's get to the phone lines and see what Alvin
has to say. Good morning, Alvin, would you got for us? Hey, guys,
how's it going?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Hello?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Do you hear me? Yes, sir? Good morning. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
I had a couple observations. I thought the Kentucky team
played better from previous games. Obviously, Butler's return with instrumental
in winning yesterday I thought it was a good game,
but I did want to throw my Super Bowl. I'll
score after I think the Chiefs win it today thirty
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eight thirty five. It's going to be important for jaaling
Hurst to protect the ball and for Barkley not to
have any fumbles on important drives to keep the game,
to keep the game close. So I want to throw
that observation out there. But yeah, I think it's important
that the team came together. The players with Butler in
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the game was significant. Seemingly, Anthony cars Back is a
little more healthier after whatever therapeutic cheat when he got
to make it make his muscles stronger. But I did
want to you and Vane Howse to throw around this question.
I thought, because both of you are football guys in
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American sports, which position is the most important to the
team a point guard in basketball or a quarterback in football?
So I want to find out what you guys opinion
is on that, and you guys enjoy the Super Bowl
and enjoy all the festivities surrounding that event. Tonight, Thank
(17:39):
you a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Thank you for the call. Alvin van House. What do
you think is more important quarterback in football or point
guard in basketball? I think it's kind of obvious.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
But I mean, I don't think it's close. But you're
probably gonna disagree with me because you don't like me.
I think the point guard is the most important because
I think he can this fingerprint on a game way
more than a quarterback. Because the quarterback is relying on
the office and line, the block, and the receivers to
run good routes, receivers to catch the ball. There's a
whole lot. There's more variables involved in football than in basketball.
(18:14):
Like I topped the ball on the locker, wins say
it's not paying me suspend the time. How when the
Lakers played in the bubble when they got Rondo back,
how that team was totally different than when he was
out because he made everybody's job easier. He puts everybody
in the role that they are supposed to be in.
So I'm gonna always say the point guard, even though
I love football, in this situation, in this question, I
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think it's easy to say the point guard.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
When we got about thirty six, I will not have
to disagree as you, as you already know, are probably
gonna disagree with you anyways. And I disagree with you
for the reasons that if you have a game plan.
And I was going to bring this up earlier because
Jack had said something throughout the game that he thought
the team was playing uninspired, and I feel like, if
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you're missing your key player, it looks like uninspired. But
they weren't uninspired that my cousinly have a couple seconds.
My answer is this, I think it's tougher for a
quarterback because during a basketball game, you can rotate a
lot of people to play point guard of some sort.
You don't just throw anybody at quarterback and still be
successful in your offense. Doesn't sputter. You can put You
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can rotate people at We brought Marii Williams. Let's bringing
the ball up the court, so he kind of playing
with little point guard. So you can always find a
way to make the point guard work with any player.
You can't do that with a quarterback. We will be
back after this. You were listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday
Wanning Sports Talk on news radio six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Welcome back, Stockyards Bank, Sunday Wanning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Van Hys and Bo Robinson.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
And Taylor Swift. I screwed that one up for Tino.
She requested this as funny we are never getting back
together by Taylor Sweat for Lim Cohen.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Oh wow, Wow.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
I pulled the wrong song. My apologies.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Well, see if nobody would have knew, we could have
fixed it.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
We could have, So I'll make good on it next hour. Well,
I'm not up to date on all the Taylor songs,
but I do think she's going to win the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
This our Sunday Morning Sports Talkers, brought to you by
Country Boy Brewing. We do have the phone lines lit up,
but I did want to talk about our because talking
about Lim Cohen, I know, we talked about Mark Pope's
going to ask Van Howes about Mark the job Mark
Pope is doing, but which is a huge story I
(20:42):
think between Van and I, especially being former players, and
kind of the climate of sports at this point, especially
here in University of Kentucky. Is what Rachel Lawson had
to say in her press conference. But we are going
to discuss that once we get off the phone lines,
and if you want to join, the phone has eight
five nine to eight zero two to eighty seven eight five,
(21:03):
nine to eight zero. Cat, Let's see what Lou has
to say. Good morning, Lou. What do you got for us?
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Can you hear me? Now?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I got you all right?
Speaker 7 (21:14):
You know the last football game, you know, we watched
h Cutter Bowley play and then he went out and
then the other kid come in Winstat and Brock Vanderbrelt.
He just sat there, you know, and then after the season.
Now correct me if I'm wrong in any of this.
(21:35):
We hear that he's just giving up football. You know,
that makes no sense to me whatsoever. And my question
is if you got anything to add to that, is
he's still on campus, is in class as he left,
he's dropped out school? If he transferred to another school,
that's just the weirdest thing I've ever heard in my life.
A kid got one more elga built your as ability last,
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you know, good solid quarterback. A lot of schools he
could go to and start, you know, especially you know,
maybe a lower level whatever. But that's just weird what
y'all know about that.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Thank you for the call, Lou. We've talked about that
on on Wednesday night as Van State at nine pm
to ten pm Eastern Standard time, Van. From what I hear,
he hasn't transferred to another school. I'm not certain if
he's still enrolled in the university at the University of Kentucky.
It seems as if he is. I have her rumors, No,
(22:31):
nothing factual. I have her rumors that he's given a
football altogether, giving you know, transferring twice, given those type
of things. Van, As a former player, are you with
Lou that it's it's kind of wild? Did you just
stop playing something that you've probably played for twenty years
of your life? Or is it that?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Man?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
This is you've tried to Georgia, You've tried it here?
As Whims said, he's is he going to play his
third school?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah? So yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Do you think it's that outlandish that Brock may have
walked away from the game or you do you know
otherwise that he hasn't walked away from the game and
you don't think there's anything wrong with it.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
No, I definitely think he walked away from the game.
I'm gonna give a little something before I get to Brock.
We both with the great John Sloman, and I'll never
forget John Sloman's senior year. We were in the same
recruiting class and I came back and he was like, man,
I'm just after this season, I'm done with football. A
guy who was an All SEC old lineman could have
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definitely played in the NFL, but his heart was just
in it. I think that's the same thing with Brock.
I don't think fans understand how how tough and mentally
draining and physically training and playing college football is because
you you have to get your books, plus you have
to commit to your other brothers on the team and
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come to practice, do all the other stuff. That that's
the deal with football. And when that when he got
his first taste of being the starter, and how those
defensive linement defensive end comes at you and those injuries
start to pile up, It start to test your will
and if I really want to do this. So it's
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not strange for me because I've seen it happen before.
I wish him best, and I know in the back
of his mind he had other things that aspirations anyway,
So this just started that that journey early.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Does it bring the question how how early this may
have went into kind of played into his mind. I mean,
like during the season, one thing you did state is
you're responsible for a lot of other people like you quarterback,
throwing the throwing you into traffic, or not getting you
into the right plays and things like that. Do you
question at any point that how how early is crept
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into his mind? Did it creep into his mind during
the middle of season where I don't know if I
want to do this, and now you like say, you're
liable for ten other players on the field and the
other eleven other players on the other side of the
ball because the defense needs rest. We need you to
sustain some of these drives. We can't have you going
three and now we can't have you not getting.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Us in the right right I think it crept into
his mind week one. I remember why not at Georgia.
He's not at Georgia. He's he's not. And the old line,
as we can all admit, wasn't the greatest. I don't
think there was as bad as people are letting on
him to be, but they were not the greatest. So
this was the first time where he didn't have half
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time probably in his career since probably Little League. And
he got pounded the first week of the season. If
you remember that South Carolina game, he came out kind
of a little iffy, And I think that is the
point of playing that position and having to endure that
kind of contact. I think people don't understand how difficult
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that is. Don't think he understood until he faced who
was the first three faced And after that game, I
think he was so beat up that he was like, man,
I'm not sure that I'm built for this.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Hm, that is quite interesting. Southern Miss, Yes, yep. What
was this a first game of season? Southern Miss and
we played South Carolina then Georgia, Yes.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yep, that's it. Remember remember he was on the he
was on the injury report after week one and he
didn't play so well week two, and there were rumblings
of an injury. We talked about it. So to go
through that and never have to do he played on
a great team in high school. He probably never got touched.
(26:45):
He went to Georgia, wasn't a starter. He got into
garbage time. Mean, you know, Georgia garbage time players are
better than other teams garbage time players. So he probably
didn't get hit there either. And that ain't get to
a situation where people are game playing against him, and
and and the old line in front of him isn't
a big blue wall. He's a little different.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I did say we were going to talk about the
Rachel lost In comments, but this kind of ties into that.
When you get to thinking about everybody's worried about the
state of University of Kentucky football. Uh kind of concerned
as if as if what Stoops is doing is he
cleaning house or people leaving because they're not happy? Is
a program crumbling? And this is directly related to the
(27:29):
comments that Rachel Lawston had, But this kind of ties
into the Brock Vandergriff situation. Is not only the hitting
on the football field, man, I don't know the recommitment
that Stoops is making to hisself to the team, to
Big Blue Nation. I guess just the school in general
is that I'm not gonna be handcuffed by anybody. I'm
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not gonna be I'm not gonna be held hostage. So
there's that part of is Brock Vandergriff. I'm sure he
was getting a pretty good piece of nil pie? Is
do I want to return this year knowing that I
didn't produce as much as I wanted to. Now coach
are having these exit meetings that if you come back
next year. We're not gonna pay you this much. And
(28:11):
I really don't think it was a money thing why
he decided he's not gonna come back. But as you said,
you really the coach Stuss recommitted hisself. You gotta recommit yourself.
And some of the things you said, are you gonna
come back next year? Are you gonna be mentally ready?
Are you willing to pay? I wonder if the nil
money was really really good, do you think he'll come
back or you you stick to your guns that you
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think it's just it was. You know, the mental part
wasn't there, So no amount of money was gonna bring
it back.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
For the Brock situation, I don't think anyone is gonna
bring him back. He's a he's a country boy. You know,
his coach actually coached down here at Baton Ridge years ago.
I don't think. I don't think his lifestyle is dictated
by money, So for him, I don't, I honestly don't
believe that money was the fact that Well for Brock,
(29:02):
now that's not the same the other guys. For the team,
it didn't matter. But for Brock, I'm gonna say it's
very low.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
And the comments I keep making correct me if I'm wrong. Van,
I'm a paraphrase that Rachel Lawson was visibly emotional at
media day at softball media Day, and she spoke openly
about and I don't know how really to take advanced
She was her loyal to you. She thinks her loyal
to tee to her players, some of I don't know
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if any particular players or maybe just players in general,
like some people should not have gotten as much time
or as much whatever, and she felt like it costs
the team and she felt like she let herself down.
I think she felt like she let the team down,
and I don't think she had the She feels like
as if she didn't have the product she wanted last year.
(29:56):
And I guess you kind of lost the season. Like
you don't get time back. Speci said, our is you know,
forty men, forties and up, you're not getting this time back.
You're not getting any younger players don't get their year
of eligibility back. If you don't get a mulligan for
a season that you didn't play well. But I found
that I've always liked coach Losson, but I found that
pretty neat that she was open and honest and candid
(30:19):
about some of the things that she made that she did,
and she got emotional about it, which meant, you know,
it must have really been eating her up inside. And
I think that kind of goes into some of the
loyalty Caliperi had when he was here, some of the
loyalty that Mark Stoops has why he's here. So I
don't know if there's not a coach on campus that
may not be dealing with that same thing. Maybe, Yeah,
(30:43):
Minji On at some point last year got emotional about
you know, some of the pressure that was that was
on him during plan. But what was your thoughts on
Rachel lost and being open that she was think she
was over too loyal to a team and she felt
like it cost them some victories you call them some
morale on the on the softball team.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I honestly think it was great to hear because it's
it's a balancing act. I mean, when you go into
a seventeen at ye old high school prospect living room
with their parents and you say the things you say
to get them to come to your university, I'm gonna
take care of them. I'm gonna make sure that they
are good people. Are they gonna be great women and
great men after they have their time with us at
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this at this institution. So now you you get them
on campus and you feel like you have to have
some loyalty to them because you said those things to
them and to their parents. And now you get into
the situation where maybe you give them too long of
a rope, and because you because coaches are human and
(31:48):
sometimes players can't ask you. Guys always said that I
was coach Courage's favorite. Sometimes a particular player can tug
the hard strings of a coach and that's a tough one.
I can I can see that being an issue. I mean,
if you go back to Lynn Bolden and it coach Stut's,
it goes marrow right. I'm not sure other players would
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have gotten the linked or rope that was given to
Lynn Bolden without that relationship that they had with him.
And that sometimes it goes the other way where you
have a guy like guy who you spell on the
team now that now is at LSU, maybe he got
too much rope and you have to live and die
with that because the most important thing on in in
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the program is the relationships. It's a relationship between players
a player, the relationship between players and coaches, lationship between
players and in the in the trainers like all that
is important, and sometimes it can cross that that gray area,
and and sometimes it can. It can, as you say,
lose a season, not totally lose a season, but it
can affect the season to the point where you you
(32:52):
might lost games that you shouldn't. And I'm honestly glad
that she said it, especially in this era in the NIL,
because it does play at.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Dennis hold On, Dennis wants to join the Dennis hold On,
I don't want to put you up against the breaks.
When we come back, we'll get to the phone lines.
We will be back after this. You were listening to
Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news radio six
thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
This is the home of the Wildcuts six thirty w
l AP.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on Anthony
White along with Van House and producer Bo Robinson. We're
talking about UK coaching, UK Basketball, Super Bowl, Sunday, Pup
Puppy Bowl, talking a lot of different things, actually softball.
Rachel Larson has the Girls four and oh thus far
(33:39):
and had an emotional media day but let's get to
the phone lines. And since Dennis was patient enough to
wait through Good morning, Dennis, what do you got for us?
Speaker 8 (33:50):
Hey, guys, I'm glad y'all talking about the Rachel Lost
deal because that's been on my mind all week. And
that's say actually why I was calling about. It was
great to hear her and the comments that she made
here being so honest, and I'll be glad you guys
have her on here soon on the Sunday morning. But uh,
but when I heard her comments, I'm like, this sounds
(34:15):
like what Marks Tukes has been doing since the n
I L and the portal era begins. And for example
and I and to me, there's more more examples than
barry On Brown. And I'll get y'all safed on this,
but it seems like to me that they force fed
barry On Brown, whether it was to keep them happy
or whatever, they force sped him the football when he
(34:40):
when actually he never really produced what his hype was
other than kickoff returns. Yeah, I mean, only really one
pass player he could run I was the post and
to me, jimur Michael in the last three games of
the season. To me, Jamour and Michaelin showed in those
(35:00):
three games that he should have been the primary receiver downfield.
What's y'all's take on that.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Well, thank you for the call, Dennis. There has been
some rumor. I've had this discussion at the water tank
at work, and there's some people who thought that Barrion
Brown was probably one of the most dynamic players in
our team, and thought he was one of the most important.
And so we went back and forth for a little
wild van house and we had to pull up the
statistics and the last year his junior his junior year,
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he did not produce hardly any as a dentist at
except for on special teams. And that's what I explained
to them. I kind of said, well, if how many
punts are you returning the game, how many kickoffs are
you getting the game? So you know, how many opportunities
are you getting for whatever investment in Nil And I
do think there was probably allocation of touches that went
(35:57):
to him as well. Not knocking the kid, I believe
the kid at all. But I'm spot on with Dennis
on that that maybe that's some of the stuff that
Rachel is doing. I don't know if Mark Stupents is
doing that. Maybe because of the difference in salaries, it's
something Mark Stupent's may not do publicly, or maybe he
may not have a lot of remorse. But let you
respond to to Dennis.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, that is part of the that's part of the deal.
But you have to also understand that he is the
most dynamic player you have on the team and you're
trying to get them touches. Now I don't like the
way that they try to get them touches, but you
have to try to give your player who's the most dynamic,
opportunities to make big plays. And then the way our
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offense were, I guess was operating that kind of we
needed that more than ever. Look, there are situations where
the OCCS like, how can I get us all the ten?
And some of that is when my old line is
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not blocking, Well, let's run a jet sweep or a screen. Also,
in some of those situations, the quarterbacks last year didn't
identify the Oprah receiver whom was a lot of times
Jamary Macklin and decided not to throw it to him.
So some of that is on the coach and some
of that is on the player because at the end
of the day. As the quarterback, you have the last
(37:23):
decision on who the throw it to and who not to.
And I think in a lot of situations, I guess
they were told to throw it to maybe Barry and Brown,
But then there's a lot of situations where Baron Brown
wasn't open. You don't throw it to him when there's
another guy wide open. So that that responsibility goes on
both the coach and the player in a lot of situations.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
And before we go to break back, Brock vander Griff
is in Georgia. He has retired from football. He is
in Georgia doing medical sales, medical device sales, so he
has it is confirmed from several sources that he has
walked away from the game. He has retired and as
and said, maybe money may not be a thing, but
there's some pretty good money in medical equipment sales, and
(38:05):
that is what Brock Vandergriff is doing in Georgia. We
don't continue this conversation at the top of the hour.
We'll be back after this year. Listening Stockyards Bank Sunday
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