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January 12, 2025 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the home of the Wildcats. Six thirty WLAP Welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Back, Stockyards Bank, Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I am Anthony
White along with Larry Vauch, coming to you from Clark's
Main Street Market Studios in downtown Lexington, Kentucky. We are
now proud to be joined by Chad Greenway, first round
draft pick of the Minnesota Viking linebacker Minnesota Vikings. But
that is not why we are here to talk to him. Madden,

(00:29):
his daughter Junior, a junior, commit to coach Kenny Brooks
and our women's basketball team here in Lexington, Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Good morning, Chad. How's it going.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
I'm doing great, guys. How you guys doing this morning?

Speaker 3 (00:42):
We're doing good. We're doing good.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
May not have as much snow as you are, but
we are trying to fight through the snow.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
I don't know. I saw some pictures you guys might
have more than us. Right now. We only got about
three's on the ground.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
See being cold though cold up here, so Madden to
be used to it. Uh, let's let's get to it. Madden,
do you know strangers to the big stage. Madd is
only a junior, has done great things since her seventh
grade year.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
She's she's been balling since the seventh grade.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
How proud of a father are you that she may
be falling your footsteps or or stepping over your footsteps.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, no, I'm very proud of her. My wife, My
wife and I both went to University of Iowa. My
wife friend track, her name is Jenny Track and cross country,
and we we got drafted in Minnesota, come up here,
had Madden right away through, you know, as we started
our NFL career, and and you know, by the time
I was done eleven years later, Madden was starting to
hoop in third grade and I jumped right into coaching
her and developing her, and she she just founded a
really love for it. So it's been it's been fun

(01:42):
to watch, uh kind of her take her own you know,
kind of take this thing and just taking her own way.
I mean, she's been incredible what she's been able to
accomplish as a high school player and her AU career,
been invited to the USA you know, national tryouts a
couple of different times. I'm just very proud of her.
I think as a as a dad, it's much different
than doing it yourself. You know, you go out there
control over yourself, and as a dad you kind of
have to watch and watch them to go through ups

(02:03):
and downs. And but most importantly, just the type of
kids she has has become. And you know, that's one
of the reasons we really fell in love with the
Kentucky program at Coach Brooks and the staff is just
really about good people and helping her kind of grow
in her game but also as a human beings. So
we're very very excited.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
And how is that relationship? How's that relationship between you?

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Is?

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Is she the type dad let's let's let's go get
some shots up?

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Or are you the one who get get out of bed,
let's let's get in the gym.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:29):
I mean, you know, at first, it was kind of
really trying to mature as a dad to understand like,
this isn't about me, It's about her growing her love
for the game. So I knew I couldn't push too hard.
And there's a point in about maybe sixth or seventh
grade where she really said I want to be great,
and she really took kind of it on herself. So
I rebound all the time. I give her tips and

(02:51):
pointers and help as much as she asked for you know,
the best part for her is in seventh grade in Minnesota,
you can go up and play varsity hoops, so she
she jumped up. She's a great heighth school coaches helped
her develop along along with a bunch of other great
people around her. I have we have four daughters, so
the next one is eighth grade. She plays part she
with Madden, and then I'm currently coaching our fourth grader.
So you know, it's just got a long line of

(03:12):
Hooper's coming up, Man's Men. And all the girls are
also multi sport kids, so we haven't played doctor. They
run track as well. So I really think that's really
important part of being a being a kid in maturing
as an athlete is not just kind of focusing on
one sport, but really learned how to compete in different
you know, on different planes, on different fields, and and
you know, having successes and failures in different ways is

(03:32):
really important and valuable to grow. And then you know,
the hope is that you go to college and and
really kind of unpacked that next layer of your of
the of the sport you choose, which in this case
is hoops. So uh, she's very very excited as again
to join join Kentucky and been down there a couple
of times now that see Lexington and get a feel
for it and and been very very happy with the decision.

Speaker 6 (03:52):
Hey hey, Chad, when you talk about that your girls
played different sports, just talk a little bit about Madden
just doesn't play different sports. She exhales in different sports.
So this tell a little bit about her overall athleticism
in case people just think she's just kind of out
piddling in another sport when basketball is not going out.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Yeah, we really focus on being just athletic rather than
being a one sport kind of kid. And so she, uh,
you know, as you mentioned, she's she's on pace to
break the all time scoring records, uh for soccer in
Minnesota history. And then she's also been a couple of
times state champion and track and the hurdles and in
the four by four. So it's one of those things
where we just you know, she's really a competitor. I

(04:31):
think if you could, you know, if you could point
a finger at one attribute that was maybe her her
most important it's her competitive spirit and her will to win.
And uh, I always think, you know, being great is
a mindset more than there is a skill, But at
the same time, that is a skill to have a
mindset like that. And I think she shows up with
a competitive edge and uh and brings it, you know,

(04:51):
as often as she can. And you know, she gets
pushed hard up here. We got really good high school
sports here in Minnesota, a lot of competition and and
she sees the best of the best and continues to
rise up. So played in the Nike circuit in the summer,
you know she's seen the best composition there as well,
so you know she she's no, she's not scared to
rise up and compete against anybody. And that's why we
felt like jumping into the SEC and and where this

(05:13):
program at Kentucky's going is the right fit?

Speaker 6 (05:18):
I was gonna say, I think a lot of people,
uh Anthony felt that when you looked at it at
Madden and the history with her parents, and I wasn't.
Now I had a pretty good female basketball player that
just left there thought that I Will could very well
be the choice. But what kind of turned everything to
where Madden decided, Okay, now is Kentucky right? But I

(05:39):
want to go ahead and make the commit. But now
during my before my junior season, either got started.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Yeah, you know, her process started because she was she
was competing so young and then playing up in the
end the summer circuits, so she was getting a lot
of a lot of great offers and opportunities as a
you know, eighth grade freshman sophomore. So it kind of
sped up her process. And of course, uh, we love
the University of Iowa. We love the IDOLEA Ones program,
We love that staff. We've we've known Jenny and I
have known them since you since we got there in

(06:07):
oh one. Just great people and and Madden Madden loves
that program as well. But it kind of came down
to the fact of, you know, she really wanted to
go and kind of make her own mark. And that's
not a flight in any capacitates University of Iowa. That's
just really more about her going and kind of carving
her own path and getting out from under the shadow.
I mean, obviously, I played my whole career in Minnesota

(06:29):
as a as a pro and you know, we she's
she's she feels that every time she walks into a gym,
and it's always part of her story is she's so
and so scared, or she's that, or she's this and
and she gets things because because of you know who
her dad is, that she's she's heard those things, you know,
since she was third grade. I think for her, this
is an opportunity to go write her own story. And
I think that's really important for kids. And you know,

(06:51):
I had one scholarship cut offer coming out of high school.
I went to Iowa because I was my only one
and uh, you know who for me to say that,
you know, you got to go disrection or that direction.
As the dad, I really want to support her and
you know, kind of list out the pros and cons
of each program and help her make the best decision
for her. And that's how she came to this decision.
And I think at the end of the day, what
made it happen so early and her be so sound
And it is the people, though I mean I'm not

(07:12):
you know, you guys are all getting familiar with Coach
Brooks and his staff obviously, just like we have been
over the last year and a half. But I gotta
tell you this is as good a people as you're
gonna find. And not only that, but he knows what
he's doing and he's gonna recruit the right kids and
I think that's you know, as we start to learn
about the Kentucky program, what it means to be part
of the University of Kentucky, we know how important that
is and we're proud to be a part of it.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
And her coming to University of Kentucky. And I know
this is no slight too big blue nation, because we
are a big nation. But is it was it more
Kentucky was something she was looking at? Or was Kenny
Brooks while she was looking at in Kenny brookskn Kentucky.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
That's a great question. So when Kenny was at Virginia Tech,
he recruited Madden and had offered her out there, but
I didn't really feel like we loved the staff and
loved him, but we didn't feel like Virginia Tech was
a play where she wouldn't necessarily have a great fit
or or be happy. So once he took the job
at Kentucky, we we didn't know a lot. We know,
of course, about a lot about the men's program, learned
about the women's program, obviously, know about the football program,

(08:12):
and we had heard so many great things about Lexington itself,
but so we had to get down there and check
it out and that's and that's what we've done. Hadn't
been down there twice in the last three months, I suppose,
and uh, just trying to get a feel for it.
And and she walked on campus and fell in love
with it, and and she knew she loved the staff
and the and the and the kids. But to get
to meet the the team, you know, some of the

(08:33):
teams that were that were held some of the kids
were held over from the past at University of Kentucky
and some of the kids that came over as Virginia
Tech from Virginia Tech with coach it's just the right
kind of kids. And and the man just fell in
love with the with all the girls, and and uh
and the and the staff even further. And because there
was a Kentucky and you know, it's more more central,
more Midwest, more a little culture to home, a little
easier to get to. I think she she felt like

(08:54):
she could see herself there. So it kind of a
combination of both.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
And what are the attributes that Big Blue Nation is
going to get to see University of Kentucky fans are
going to get to see with Madden when she on
the court. What what what what are attributes that stand
out from her well.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
As the dad, I'm always like whatever coach tells you.
But uh, you know, she she's we score a lot
of points up here. I think we ad about eighty
seven or eighty six points a game in high school
girls basketball. She really likes to push the tempo and
play fast. You know, she's she's what would be considered
probably an undersized guard these days at about five eight.
She still thinks what you get with Georgia Amore, you know,
that would be her, That would be who she'd love

(09:30):
to become like is is. Obviously George is an incredible
player and just a great mentor for Madden. And now
she kind of gets to to live behind her he
and be the next one. And I think that's really
exciting for her. So I would just say competitive spirit.
She's gonna fight, scratch and call for everything. She wants
to be a winner and be a round winners and
and hopefully obviously the goal is to bring a national

(09:50):
championship to Lexington. And that's uh, that's that's the goal,
and I you know, whatever else happens beyond that. Obviously,
start with start small, winning the first one, winning the
SEC with the we're in the national championship and away
you go, that's that's that's how it was supposed to work,
right and is.

Speaker 6 (10:04):
Yeah, and Chad, your your daughter is such a prolific score.
I'm assuming she's probably getting close to the four thousand
point marks, and she started the season with over thirty
four hundred. But she also is probably closing in on
nine hundred assists and her career has over five hundred seals,
over eight hundred rebounds. I mean, she'd how does do

(10:27):
all of that? And again she's only five eight.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Well, I guess that means just the motor sheet she brings.
I mean, you know, you get you get a lot
of people talking about, you know, the points she scorn
and that you know in the past, you know, and
then she was younger, we played a we played a
smaller school schedule up here. We were two ways. We
have about you know, sixty seventy kids in high school.
And and now now these last you know, two or
three years, we're playing you know, one of the if

(10:51):
not the hardest schedule in Minnesota, playing all the big
schools and all the big programs. So she's doing and
throwing these numbers up against you kind of the best
of the best, and so I think that's that's a
great sign for what's to come and if she can
raise her level to the SEC play. But you know,
scoring is scoring is a skill, and you have to
have that drive and want to go get the basketball

(11:12):
and the hoop at the same time. You gotta be
able to share at the same time. So those assists
totals are really important because in the college game, everything
changes and you need to be able to score when
it's needed, but you need to make that right play
with his needed as well. And I think when you
look at how her game's gonna, you know, kind of
translate the whole business is with a with a guy
like coach Brooks, who played point guard himself, who coaches
point guards at the highest level and has for years,

(11:34):
you feel like he's gonna be able to unpack even
a lot more for games. So excited to see what's
to come.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
And I just wanted to ask you really quickly.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
With her and her sister playing together, is it like
the ball Brothers where she she's always looking for her
sister and vice versa, or or just since her sister
is younger, I'm assuming maybe she looks out for or
she made her sister carve her own path.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Yeah, in a little bit of both. There's there's some
tough love, no question about that. Becket's a great player
in her own right. She started to get quite a
few recruiting calls as well as an eighth grader already,
she shoots the heck out of it. Uh, So she's
developed a part of that game as a young player,
and she kind of you know, she she plays on
the ball a lot more now than That's why Madden
can move off the ball. So it's nice to have
a kind of combo of both of them. But there's

(12:18):
tough love. I mean, Madden is a fierce competitor and
Beckett's learning as a as a young player what that
competition looks like in the high school level. So she's
she's trying to raise her level of the game, her game.
Uh but there there's fighting, there, there's laughing, there's smiling,
there's all sorts of fun stuff that sisters can do.
And as parents, you know, you look back at at
this career. At some point, basketball is gonna end, you know,

(12:39):
just like football ended for us, and and uh you know,
sports are gonna end. If you look back at at
the memories and those moments, and I don't think as
a parent you can have anything better than to be
able to watch your your kids compete together. And uh,
that's just that's what's all about for us. And it's
fun to be able to watch it and watch them
grow with him that and also watch the relationship grow.

(13:01):
So that's been a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
It's a chance.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
Well it's kind of the life thing for me here,
just wondering with with your wife being a successful college athlete,
you being a college athlete and then a professional athlete,
and your girls being like they are, how competitive is
just everything in your house? I mean everything on competition.
Do you compete against everybody and everything or how does

(13:25):
that kind of go?

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Yeah, you know, I think I take I get a
lot of credit for the kids athleticism because of my
professional career, but the mentality and the mindset really comes
from the mom. I mean, Jenny, it was a really
high level distance runner eight hundreds up to ten k
in college and uh, just really a competitive spirit but
also really a tough mentality.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
And I think that's what.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
It what kind of it can really separate you at
the top is just having that mental capacity to when
things get tough, to lean and harder. I think that's
what I've seen that, you know, the best attribute from
Jen goes to them in that capacity. And in our house,
I mean, you don't don't get away with anything without
trying to get beat by somebody. And I got these
younger two coming up. Our fourth grader is a really
nice athlete, and the younger ones coming up, and uh

(14:07):
so it's just farn because they all get to watch,
you know, watch what Madden's been doing, but also motivated
to go take down all the records she's setting and
do with their own things. So yeah, we compete at
pretty much anything. Sorry is our is our game of
choice at the house, our game board of choice and
guess a lot of cards getting thrown and uh you know,
tears being tears being had out there when you take

(14:29):
a loss. That we're trying to compete at whatever we do.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Chad, My last question is because the SEC has relinquished
a stronghold over the college football Championship. I've grew up
a big ten kid Michigan, no fence, Chad, I grew
up a big ten Michigan fan. Who you got Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Are you are you? Are you big ten? Are you
going to Ohio State? You're going Notre Dame?

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Man, this is one of those game you can't cheer
for anybody. Uh. You know, I'm probably gonna look at
at at taking Ohio State. And I say that because yes,
I'm a big ten guy. But I always think a
path going through a conference that you're required to play,

(15:12):
the road tests they've had going out to Oregon and
the ups and downs of their season, you have to
go obviously go into Michigan and take a loss there.
I feel like you've got this path to this path
the hardest of anybody. And I think that that battle tested,
that battle test, the team is going to come out
on top. I think I think it's Ohio State. Uh,

(15:33):
in a in a game by more than seven points.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Appreciated Chad, Well, We appreciate you for sending your daughter
down Who're gonna take good care of her, and we
appreciate you for joining us this morning.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Absolutely, guys can't wait to You know, we're part of
Big Blue Nation right now, but can't We can't really
feel like we're in until she takes the court. So
we're very, very excited and looking forward to spending more
time down there. So looking forward to meeting you guys
and spending some time. Thanks for having me, all.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Right, enjoy your Sunday. We will be back after this.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
You're listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday Onneing Sports Talk on
news radio six thirty WLAP.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
This is the home of the.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Wildcats six thirty WLAP.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry Vaught. Stockyards Bank is your trust
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Greenway for joining us longtime Minnesota Vikings linebacker. Heck of

(16:31):
a player. Hell of a player, I should say, And
he has Madden come in here and sounds like there's
going to be great things out of Madden. Larry Vaughden
coach Brooks does does nothing but continue to astonish us
as fans.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
Yeah, I mean, I think she's gonna be a terrific
player in the future. I mean, I think Kenny would
be happy to have her come next year. But she
kind of a full year of high school basketball. But
I love the fact that she's such a Georgia. A
more fan wants to be like Georgia about the same
size and everything that like say her. Her statistics are
just incredible when you look at what she has done

(17:11):
and the all around game that she has and just
a terrific fight. I got to meet the family when
they were down here first the Mississippi State game, I
think it was they came to what and I got
a chance to meet her. And also Kaitlyn Carroll, the
siinee who we've had on with us, was down here
for that game. They all set together and it's nice
to see them already bonding. But Madden, it's just a

(17:34):
terrific player, like saying, as he said, her sisters an
eighth grader averaging I think fourteen or fifteen points a
game this year already. So Chad and his wife, who
are both exceptional athletes, as you heard him talk about,
they certainly have an athletic girl.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Family that is great.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
And you know who else's athletic heart and glovetrotter, the
entertaining and athletic. When we come back, we'll have excuse me, sorry,
we have zu'ce Mclerkin when we come back to talk
about the Harlem Globe Troupers coming to visit the beautiful
city of Lextera, Kentucky next week January nineteenth.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
We'll be back after this.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
You're listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on
news radio six thirty WLAP.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
This is the home of the Wildcats. Six thirty WLAP.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I am
Anthony White along with Larry Vault and my man Bob
Robinson playing the tunes and the hits. We this hour
Sunday Morning Sports Talks about you by Country Boy Brewing.
We are going to have Zeus McClerkin of the of

(18:41):
the Harlem Globe Trotters on this is why you hear
the Hard and Globe Trotters music. They will be in
town Rapperena next Sunday, January nineteenth, three pm. And I'm
Larry Vault. I have never seen I've watched I remember
Curly and Metal Lark, and I did not. I guess
I was too young for Will when he was a

(19:03):
Harlem Globe Trotter. But I've never seen a Harlem Globe
Trotters I used to love to watch their antics and
their their skillfulness because I love basketball, that's my favorite sport.
I love the way they dribble up and down the court.
But have you ever seen Harlem Globe Trotters in person?

Speaker 6 (19:19):
Lord, Yes, Anthony, I've seen them, taken my children to
see them. I cannot believe you have not seen the
Globe Trotters.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Well, you got kids, and I was raised by a
single mother. I guess she could have took me, but
that was kind of something that that, you know, maybe
she could, but she had a work and other things.
I would I watched them on TV, but I've never
How many times have you seen them in person?

Speaker 6 (19:41):
Probably seven eight times in.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
The two thousands, or did you see him back in
the nineteen hundreds, Like.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
Yeah, no, it would back you know, yeah before the
two thousands.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
In fact, I probably haven't seen them in the last
in person in the last twenty years.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Oh okay, I didn't know that. So he took your children,
You didn't take your grandchildren.

Speaker 6 (20:03):
Now, haven't taken them because they they're not always here
at the right times to be able to do that.
But like I say, I went a few times just
myself and my younger self went to see them too,
because it's just an entertaining after a couple of hours
of basketball.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Well, I know you said this is never the right time.
You know when the right time could be? January nineteenth,
three pm.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
Yeah, yeah, I think you ought to go for sure.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Well, I mean, I'll take the grand kids. You get
them in town, I'll take them.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
How about that that won't be a week they will
be in town?

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Well, see both we can't convince Larry anything. He can
travel all over, but he can't get let the grandkids enjoy,
enjoy mcclerking.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
And then.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
Is that the Larry the grandkids be over his house
all day every day?

Speaker 3 (20:56):
You know that.

Speaker 6 (20:57):
But I don't exactly rule that decisions.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
All right, Well, I'm gonna let you tell Zeus himself.
We are now proud to be joined by Zeus McClerkin
of the Harlem Globetrotters. Good, good morning, mister McClerkin. I'm
sorry we missed you this week. It was a lot
of snow.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
No I know nowhere, Eve, I'm glad to be here now.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
I have seen you a bunch of and Bo told
me that you know, we were supposed to both coming studio,
and we got a heck of a lot of snow.
But you're from Columbus. How does the How does the
snow scare you?

Speaker 5 (21:28):
They don't scare me. It scared my driver. Y'all don't
know how to drive around?

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Then, well that that is? That is that.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
But how let's start from scratch? How did you become
a Harlem Globe Trotter?

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Like?

Speaker 3 (21:40):
How how does this happen? How do you become one?

Speaker 5 (21:43):
Yeah? Yeah, So I actually used to play against the
Harlem Glovechotters for the Washington Generals, so I had a
pretty unconventional path there. And I had never heard of
the Glovechotters growing up. I saw him on Scooby Doo,
but I didn't realize it was a real team.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
So it was.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
It was later on in life and a guy asked
me if I wanted to play against the Globe Chotters
after I had played overseas for a couple of seasons.
I was like, why do you think i'd be good
for that team? He said, because your defense sucks. I said, okay,
all right, let's do it. So eventually the glove Chotters
got tired of me dunking on them, and they signed
me over to a contract.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
And you had the Michael Jordan path, I guess to
just playing basketball in general, didn't you? How do you
continually how do you continue to get cut and keep
going out for a team because you didn't start, You
didn't actually make a team with your junior year, right, yeah?

Speaker 5 (22:32):
Yeah, And that came on the heels of a five
inch gro spirt. So that helped drink a lot of
milk that summer. But a lot of my coaches and
my teammates would would all say the same thing to me.
They all said I was too nice. They said I
smiled too much. One guy said, all you ever do
is smile and dunk. Smiling, dunk, that's all you do.
And today I got a Guinness World record for the
most slam dunks in a minute, and I pay I

(22:53):
played for a team that literally pays me to smile
and dunk. So I tell people kids, especially you know,
like when people are tell me you got to have
that demonstrative demeanor to be successful in sports, you know,
you don't have to have that, like that's that's not
something that I was born with. And I believe that
that nice guys can play basketball at a high level
and play any sport at a high level and be successful.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
And do you go back to your schools now and
is it a different feel that you know you were
smiling dunk Now when you go back to school, I'm
sure you get standing ovations and people want to sign autographs.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
I try not to gloat. I tied not the glot
when I see those guys, but I ain't gonna lie.
I'm human, man, it comes back to me. I'm like, man,
you didn't believe in me back then.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
What is the life of Harlem? It seems like you
got kind of an athlete, a rock star, and a
comedian mixed all. What is the life on the road
as a Harlem glow trot? Are you guys constantly on
the road or do you not travel every event that
you all have?

Speaker 5 (23:55):
Well, I don't go to every single event because I've
been on the team for fifteen seasons now. When I
first started on the team, I was on the road
about eight months out of the year. But when we
are on the road, man, it's an amazing feeling. It
is kind of like a rock star feeling. In certain areas,
you know, when people see that red, white and blue basketball,
or they see that Harlem Globchotter emblem on your chest.

(24:18):
It takes them back to a happier time in their life,
right when they went to a game with their parents
or with their grandparents. And I will just continually get
people walking up to me telling me about how they
know metal like Lemon and Curly Neil, Marcus Haynes, Lou Dunbar,
all of the Globe Chotter legends in the past, and
they just want to share that moment with me, for
that very moment, even though they don't know who I

(24:39):
am individually, Like they look at that brand and they
go It just takes into that happy time. So I'm
so happy to be a part of an organization that
puts a smile on people's face without even an effort,
you know what I mean. It's it's just amazing.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
And that smile comes from the skill set you got. Well,
I guess the tricks. I'm not sure how much skill
it takes. I know I can't and do any of it,
but most of those smiles come from those How long
does it take you?

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Do you?

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Is that part of do you join the team first
and then you you gain the skills from working or
you have to have you have those skills when you
come in.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
It's just like you man like, like we we started
the job knowing how to do basketball. That's all we
know how to do is hoop. Like everybody came on
the team as a hooper and a good person, like
he's got you gotta have high character and a great
basketball player. The tricks, those things you learn over time, right,
Like most people don't even know how to spin the
ball on their finger when they first join the team,

(25:34):
but after they join, you know, it doesn't it doesn't
take long. There's there's kind of like this thing we
do called the magic Circle at the beginning of every game,
and it's an honor given only to the top five
ball handlers on the team. So whoever has the best tricks,
they earn their way into the magic circle. And it's
kind of like a badge of honor. If you can
get in that magic circle, you're you're being a part

(25:56):
of something really historic. With the Harlem glove chotters.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
And are these things rehearsed?

Speaker 2 (26:01):
It saying I've watched you all for years, and it
seems like maybe it's rehearsed, but it can't be rehearsed
because at the at the root, at the core, it's
still basketball.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
So and I know the other team is yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
So like the bucket of confetti or water, whichever you
want you want to throw, are those things rehearsed at
a certain time or just happens just by nature.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
We're going to pull it out at some point in
the game. We never really know when we kind of
improvent and read the crowd, read the vibe, and see
what's going on at that time, and then we'll kind of,
you know, pull out certain things, you know, the globechotters.
Just to take you back a little bit in our history,
there was a time when we were beating teams by
so much back in the fifties and the forties that

(26:44):
people would leave our games because, you know, nobody wants
to see a blowout. So that's when we start doing
the antics, you know, the bucket of confetti, the accidentally
pulling somebody's pants down at the free throw line, but
the stuff like messing with the referees, going into the crowd,
shooting the trick shot. We had to keep these fans
in throg and that's what we just continued to call

(27:04):
in are now almost one hundred year history.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
And who would you say probably has the most unique trick? Actually,
I've seen a lot of things. I can't even I
played basketball for years and can't spin the ball on
my finger Who do you on your team has most
unique trick?

Speaker 3 (27:19):
And what is that?

Speaker 5 (27:21):
I think I got the most unique. It's the praying hands,
spinning the ball on my fingers while while holding my
hands together as the praying hands. But I would say
the most iconic trick that we have is a half
court hook shot that was popularized by Metal Luck women.
And no Lie Metal Luck could shoot that hook shot
like better than he could a regular three point shot.
If you gave him three three pointers and three half

(27:45):
court hook shots, he'd hit all three hook shots and
he probably break the three.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I saw you on w KYT channel of eighteen, and
it looked like you showed the two hosts how to
do that the preying hands spin the ball around and
went around your shoulders, run around your back, went around
your chest and everywhere.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
You said you taught them that in two days. You
can teach that in two days.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
That was magic of television. No, I taught them that
on the spot.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
And I will say, uh, I have read your story
a little bit and that you you have asthma, and
you travel with, you travel with and hailer as you perform.
Does that not bother you or concern you any nah Man?

Speaker 5 (28:37):
As long as you know your triggers, you can really
persevere through it. What's crazy is I didn't even realize
I had asthma until my senior year in college. I
just thought everybody else was like better than me. I
would get tired quicker than everybody else. I'm like, what's
going on? But it turned out I had exercises and
just bronchio spasms. And as long as I realized that,

(28:59):
and I start, you know, realizing when I was getting
close to that trigger point, and I just you know,
I was going to be fine, not really even the
playing field for me. In the end, I was able
to push through.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
And I've watched you all for years, and I've watched
in one bat. Have you guys ever collaborated or had
a I would love to see you guys perform against
and One guys because I think both both people think
that it is real basketball, which it is, but the
entertainment is the value that most people get.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Out of it. Have you guys ever collaborated, Well, we
do a lot.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
Of collaborations, not just with and one players, but we
I mean you can go on our YouTube channel or
go to Harlem Glove Chotters dot com and you can
see collaborations with dudes perfect, anybody doing any type of
trick shots, anything basketball related. Because we're known as the
innovators of the game. Man, I mean we end then
at the three point line, the three point shot, the

(29:51):
three man weave, four point shot, the slam dunk, the
ally you. All of that stuff got popularized through the
Harlem Glove Chotter. So any other organization that's like doing
that stuff, it started with the Chrotter. So we're in
a way, we're kind of collaborating with everybody.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
And you spoke earlier about the Harlem Globe Trotter logo
on your chest and when the red, white and blue
basketball comes out, the thought what is it like for
you all to be a part of something that's been around,
Like you said, you talked about Curly and a Metal
Lark and some of those people. What does that mean
to you all who are doing this now? And the
two thousands before, like in the nineteen seventies.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
And look, it's an honor, and I'm not gonna lie
to you. It's pressure too, because you got to think
about it. We are holding the memory of these people
that have been been going to these games for almost
one hundred years, and you know, it's like something precious.
We're standing on the shoulders of giant and I just
want to make sure that I keep the torch lit
while it's in my hands and I'm getting ready to

(30:50):
hand it off to the next generation, you know, So
I want to make sure there was a time, one
time when the Globe Trotter's lost the game in nineteen
seventy one, so the Washington General and we haven't lost
to them since then, and I don't want to be
the one that alludes to them again. So I'm just
trying to keep the winning speak alive.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Man, you guys gonna be on time. Are you guys
gonna be in town next Sunday the nineteenth at three pm?
Is there anything go to Harlem Globe chotters dot com
to get tickets to see? Is there anything we should
know before you guys get to town? Is there anything
they can look forward to before three pm or after
three pm.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
Yeah, during the game, you know you're gonna see hot friance,
slam dunks, half court trick shots, and crowd participation that's
unrivaled in sports. And we have what's called the fifth quarter.
At the end of the game, you can come down
to the ropes who will sign autographs, take pictures with you,
and and like you said, tickets are still available right now.
You can go to Harlem Globe chotters dot com. You

(31:46):
can grab tickets for the game and you can buy
a Zoos jersey because that'll make you taller.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Really, and how tall are you, might I ask? I'm
six foot eight in shoes or out of shoes? Yeah,
you ever have that? People say that there's such and
such heightenings say with shoes on. Are you the type
that feels like the shoes matter or you just give
your your hype barefoot.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
I give my height with shoes on, because I don't
walk around barefoot.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Well, zeus. We appreciate you for joining us the sum
this morning. We look forward to seeing you in town
next week and I'm looking forward to show you guys
gonna put.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
On all right.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
Appreciate you guys, all.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Right, have a go. We will be back after this.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
You're listening Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news
Radio six thirty WLAP.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
This is the home of the Wildcats. Six thirty w LAP.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I am
Anthony White along with Larry Vault. Thanks to Zeus mcclergan
of the Hollow Globe Trotters, who will be in town
next Sunday three pm. Go check them out. But Larry
Vault Today, This Sunday at three pm at Historic Memorial Coliseum,

(33:03):
Kenny Brooks and our lady Wildcats will take on the
Auburn Tigers. As we are still undefeated three and oh,
tree and O and the SEC. We're gonna be four
and oh in the SEC after the day.

Speaker 6 (33:16):
Absolutely, there won't be any doubt in my mind. I'll
be four and oh after a day. I think hopefully
I have a nice crowd there. But he's got this.
Kenny has his team really really playing well. And speaking
of playing well, you've caught the theme to Bo's music today,
haven't you.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (33:34):
You know, I get to show notes, so I saw
some notes on there. I want to sound familiar and
most of these songs sound familiar, and.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
Oh my gosh, surely he knows Sam and Dave, I
would hope. So rocking out, I'm just rocking out with
this music. I mean, this is music and the passing
of Sam Moore, and I think that's what bo is
honoring today. Corrected a job well done.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
It was Sam Moore, one of one of the guys.
Where's that is that?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Is that Lebanon where most of the stars have played
the blues and things? Was?

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Is that? Is there a juke joint in Lebnon or
somewhere in Kentucky?

Speaker 6 (34:14):
There were several of them. The Golden the Golden Horseshoe
was one that maybe I was too young to be
in and somehow sometimes found a way to be able
to get in there in my in my younger days.
But I mean I saw Tina Turner there a few times.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
So he says, what it's called the Golden Horse.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Golden Horseshoe, Okay, Because I was thinking about another club
that has a name Horse in it off of the
freeway down the street, and I was thinking, I know,
you can't be talking about that. And so there was
more than one in Kentucky because the one where's the
most popular one at that is in Kentucky.

Speaker 6 (34:49):
Where there there were several in Lebanon.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
It's all that I know, Okay, they were.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
Yeah, and there was kind of a progression of performers
that would come through as they were going to different places,
and they would kind of rotate who was stopping in
different in different towns, and Levenon had quite a few
of what became huge stars in the day that were
there and performed and just relatively small settings.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Say how young were you when you were sneaking into
these joints? I ain't gonna say you were sneaking in
there because you didn't say if you were in there
or not, but about how.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
Well I guess since my mom and dad have both
gone now and are just looking down, they probably would
know they maybe in the fifteen to seventeen range.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Oh okay, I was just thinking maybe one a little
kid like uh no, I wasn't. No, I'm thinking that
twelve thirteen.

Speaker 6 (35:44):
Now we know there was maybe a way that you
could go and as a group of guys and could
kind of go still get in.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Since we only got a couple more seconds left in
this show, what song can I you knew what song?
Can I look up that?

Speaker 3 (35:59):
You know?

Speaker 2 (35:59):
I absolutely will know, so when I get off I
can so.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
Man, that was the most well known hit.

Speaker 7 (36:08):
And then hold On I'm Coming, which was actually featured
in the Starbucks holiday campaign.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Hold On on Coming? Was that not a group? Did
another group remake that? Why do I think I've heard
that from a group?

Speaker 7 (36:21):
It may have been, but Sam and Dave. That was
the signature song for them other than soul Man. And
by the way, May ninth, nineteen sixty eight, Salm and
Dave played Transylvania.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
Story behind that and my moves on the dance floor
of these songs were unbelievable. Anthony, back when I was younger, Well.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
We ain't got time to hear the story dog on
Boat next time, let me know earlier. Thanks to Zeus McClerkin,
Thanks to Chad Greenway, always thanks to Jack Pilgrim, Larry Vaught,
bo Robinson. I am Anthony White and this has been
Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news Radio six
thirty WLAP
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