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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
At B and A very good morning to use at
client past.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Ups.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hang on sec there we go in the morning.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, good morning again. Idea, you're good, very well.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Actually, thank you for sending through that recipe.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah, I thought. I went ahead a look on the
internet for all sorts of things, and there are many
different bits and pieces that are available, especially in the
American market. But I also got an interesting thing that
I sent you this the second one I said about
some plastic machines that actually would work as well. But
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the interesting thing is they all. They all, and that
makes total sense. They're also aiming at the fact that
you don't want bees to come into those traps, so
you want to you want to save the bees if
you like, And that is a big gig. I think
if you do have an idea or you want to know,
don't get me telling I think this is going to work.
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We need enough say and swear it's going to do work,
don't you agree?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, yeah, and that's where look to be fear. You know,
social media is full of recipes and that sort of thing,
most of them, including bes. I went and bought beer.
It turns out you don't really need beer for making
these things. But yeah, the concern is that, you know
the bye catch. Let's say, what you don't want to
do is create something that is attractive to bees, because
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that's who we're looking to protect, and that's why we
want to attack the hornets. So I haven't had a
chance to do your recipe, but I will do this
week and I'll let you know.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, he a nosy to see what it looks like.
But it's interesting how many different things there are. And
this thing is obviously this, this creature is this the
yellow egged hornet are real playing the bums actually wherever
they are. So yeah, it would be an idea to
check this out at the moment. Up to seven females,
isn't it?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And apparently a discovery of two nests and you should
really check it out online for people who are not
quite sure about this. The nest is like it's an
impressive piece of architecture.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It certainly is. It's nice and round, and it's quite
it's it's quite much bigger than if you're like the
beginning nest of a German wash, which is only the
size of a big bomball, you know, and these are
much much bigger. And of course those nests later on
will be will basically create the new variety or the
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new lot of these hornets that will also then start
a much bigger nest. And I've seen those in Alaska
and places like that. And boyd are big cheepest creepers who.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Let's hope that we can get it before it spreads.
I mean, there's there's been success, hasn't there with other
introduced pests where they you know, the fruit fly for example,
where they've been able to eradicate that before it becomes established.
The questioners, you know, are we too late and can
it be done? That's the big question.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Well, when I started working with the Ministry of Agriculture
and Fisheries in nineteen eighty two or three or something
like that, the paper wasp had just arrived on then
all shore, same thing, probably a little nest on the
edge of a container going all the way from goodness
Do from China. That's the area all the way to Altroa.
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And we've tried to then, I remember we were trying
to get rid of it then, but no hope and
health of course that thing is now everywhere. In fact,
there's not only a particular wasp, but there's also a
wasp out of Spalia that arrived here. There's also a
wasp from England that, in the meantime arrived here about
five or six years ago. Another paper wasp. There's unbelievable.
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There's no three or four or five of those different species.
Now are we getting these big hornets?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
My goodness, it's hope that with a little bit of
citizen science will not be able to get on top
of it. Right, let's get calls. If you'd like to
talk to ROT, you should call us now. Eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. And
Gail a very good morning to you.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Good morning. We have a high. We have a problem
with our lawn. It's full of pestelu. How do we
get rid of it?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Oh? Gosha, golly, how do you start all over again?
Is it feasible?
Speaker 5 (04:36):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, no, well there you go, or you keep on
Well in that case, you do what I do. And
I've got a lawn that is absolute rubbish, to be
quite honest, because I actually don't care too much, you know,
and I just keep on mowing it. And I mow
it at the right time. I've got a what have
I got? The delment of some grass, ballygrass? What a
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pained abund that is, And I'm trying to pull it out,
and I go like, nah, it's not going to work.
So I literally actually use some wed and forget on
that sort of stuff where it shouldn't be, where the
grass shouldn't be. There is a wedd and forget material
called hitman that actually kills grass. But also are the
weeds and that sort of stuff within five hours?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
And what does it do to the rest of the law?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Say that again?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Sorry, what does it do to the good grasses?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Oh? And we'll get that as well, there's no doubt
about us. But that is the way. That's why I'm saying,
you want to start it? Do you want to start again?
Get some of that hitman, get rid of all the grass,
and then reshow from now on new stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yeah, well it's not going to be possible. But so
that's the answer.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
That's very helpful. Thank you. Read well, it's not very
helpful because it's brinking hot.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
It's helpful to me, but it's you know, I can
see that there's nothing we can.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Do read sure, no, Dale, It's it's really true. You
got to really start again. Yeah, all of this.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
You go, good luck with that, and Barbara, a very
good morning to you.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Oh, good morning, Peter, Good morning, Rude. You guys are
doing a brilliant job, you really are. Sunday morning's never
been the same for years. I heard a recipe, saw rather,
a recipe on TV for something to get rid of
these dreadful golden legged hornet creatures, honey water and dishwash,
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and my first thought was, oh, dear lord, how are
the bees bumblebees? Was going to differentiate between that and
something good. The bees are obviously going to be attracted,
so they're going to end up going to big bee
land in the sky, aren't they? Rude?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I think so too. I think that is exactly why
we need to be brinking care for what we're using
in these little containers. That's what people are would just say,
that's exactly it, And it's a it's really really hard
to do with. Sometimes you can play with the entrances
of holes, you know, but this is a big one,
so even the smaller ones can get in, you know
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what I mean. But yeah, on the other hand, on
the other hand, there are materials that they smell that
some bees like and hornets don't, or hornets like and
bees don't. And as long as we can actually work
that out properly, we can make a trap that will
actually work.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Oh look it's heartbreaking. Look it's bad enough going into
the greenhouse and finding the bloody spiders have spun their
webs and the little bees have flown into them, tried
to get out, struggled like hell, can't get out, end
up dying. I took my pull two out of my
greenhouse yesterday and honestly, rude, they were no bigger than
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my tiny fingernail. I just stood there and wept. They
are so I just have to go through my greenhouse
with a soft broom every so often and try and
keep the her cobwebs down.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Barbara, You're absolutely right. I've got a tunnel house, I've
got my tomatoes, I've got all the other stuff there.
You're absolutely right. And what I tend to do because
I like my spiders, but I also know that the pollinators,
which in my case are bumblebees and also native bees.
Is that the small ones that you're talking about, the native.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Bees, Well, any kind of bees.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. But here comes to thing. What
I do is I take a little brush with me
and I take those websites out.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Yeah, well I do. I go through the greenhouse with
a long, a long handled broom soft brush and they
seem to collect in one place. And I'll tell you another.
I've discovered another an organic weed killer equal parts of
lemon juice and brown vinegar. You can use white, but
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brown is more effective and it's absolutely brilliant. You can
use it around your pets, your insect and all they
get is a wrinkled up nose. That the taste and
the smell of it, and it's just just brilliant because
I grow organic. You see it, all parts of lemon
juice and brown brown vinegar. People there you go much
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love time.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
And you know what's interesting that the things that that
Peter and I just talked about that came from America
and it also used that brown vinegar, and it often
uses that citrus juice as well. They're wine juice. It's
an interesting there's an interesting attraction. That's a good point
to hear that, Barbara, thanks.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It seems to be a common element, doesn't it to
use like the dishwashing liquid seems to be the part
that repels the bees that we want to look after.
But it doesn't dissuade the hornets.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
No, because they have no sense of humor. They come anyway.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
All right, right, we're going to take a short break.
We'll be back in just a moment. Is with us
and we'll talk to Glenn after the break. Right, Oh,
is with us this morning on here at new stalk
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sib and Lean, Good morning to you.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Okay it guys, there you go. And I really appreciate
your show. I always look forward to it on the weekend.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Rude.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
I was just wondering, I've noticed a couple of moths
and my wardrobe. I always kept the wardrobe door open.
I've got business ships in there, and I'd like to
keep them quite nice and edge question do you put
mosfels in there? And what are they? And what sort
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of damage for the moss?
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Do?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Right? Okay, first of all, I need to tell you
what you need to tell me what those How big
are those moths?
Speaker 5 (10:59):
They're quite small. I guess the size of half my
little fingernail.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Okay, right? Color?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Uh sort of base? I guess the base?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Do you live in crush here in the morning. Sorry,
do you live in crush Hue?
Speaker 5 (11:21):
No, I'm in Auckland.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
In Auckland, Okay, I'm just asking because we've got a
clothes moss here that is almost slightly more golden then
that color you mentioned. But and it's and it's very small,
and it's got a lovely orange flap on its head
if you like, almost lovely hairy thing. And okay, go on,
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but what yeah, all right, go on?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
What else?
Speaker 7 (11:47):
Sorry?
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I haven't been able to capture one because I haven't
been able to get close to it. But I'm just
sort of wondering, you know, what is the consensus or what?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
All right? You you want to be safe here? You can't.
We can't muck around. I mean I could probably, you know,
added for a small fee, I'll fly over to Auckland
and identify it for you. But you know what I mean.
But that's a bit tricky. So if you think there
and it's more than one or two, there seems to
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be it seems to be a number of them that
you makes you a bit worried, right.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
No, I just I just say, like I've worked up
a couple of mornings and I've just seen a couple
fly out, and that's sort of like, you know, can
you tell us what they do and what the general
consensus is about.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Then we have about fifteen hundred different species of moths
in New Zealand. It's really hard a to tell over
the phone where they are be to guess what they are.
But I can imagine that if they like to live
in your wardrobe, it could be anything, it could be harmless.
But here comes the thing. The best thing for you
to do is to get yourself an aerosol can that
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will last quite a long time. And there is a
company in Auckland in a couple of places that's called
say if works one word safe works, and the X
is the last letter. Safe works with an X, they
have an insecticide that we use in aircraft to make
sure that we don't get new creatures and coming into
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the country through airlines. Okay, if you can get one
of those, particular.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
If you like.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Things that that that that bring that insecticide into your
into your wardrobes or into your bedroom or wherever they are,
do it just gently in a in a quick way,
into the into the wardrobe, close it down, let it
be and you'll find for the next six to twelve months,
nobody will go into that wardrobe and do anything or
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don't do anything, whatever they are. But the point is
that it's the safest way to protect your your clothes
in this case, from being a target. And even if
it's not one of those creatures that does close or
clothes moss or whatever, then at least you haven't got
the other bugger's there.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Okay, check out safe Works and it's it's safe Works
spelt with an X on the end. Okay, thank you
very much, all this best to you. Funnily enough, I
was looking at the safe Works website just the other
day because I was looking for the same sort of
spray you know, for Bora and that sort of thing,
and and also discover that there are stockists of the
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boots that I wear, so APIs boots there as well.
I'm like, ah, that's good with mine. Maybe I can
get another from them.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You go and talk to these guys at safe Works.
They'll be quite happy to have a look at you,
because I told them the same in christ Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, So if you're looking for the APIs boots, you
can find them at safe Works. Right, let's get amongst Paul,
good morning.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
Good morning, and thank you very much for taking the
call age old problems dreaded them off around the apples.
I managed to get on top of it this year.
But I've gone back from what's what's that one that
you use? No, I'll come mad x so X. Yes,
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Medex three didn't. It didn't have much success with it,
but I've mixed it with success, which I used in
previous years, and my apple tree years, or both of them.
Three of them are brilliant this year. And the only
problem now is how do I kick the birds away
from them? I get a chance to let them grow,
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you know, to come right and eat them.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
First of all, let's talk about Medex and success and
things like that. It's all about the timing. And the
timing is literally the week or two after flowering that
you do that, because that when the little coddlings which
is an old fashioned English word for a tiny apple
as it develops, When the little coddlings start to grow
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after the flowering, if you like, that's when these these
moths are laying their eggs on those particular things. So
that's the timing thing, right. What else?
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Sorry, what was the other thing you were asking keep
the birds away.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Ah, the birds, yeah, blinking heck, that's a netting trick.
Mind you. Having said that, I do not have great
troubles with birds on my apples for the simple reason
that I don't have holes in the apples. Once you
got holes in the apples, the birds will go, Oh,
somebody's made the holes easier for me to have access.
Let's ever go oi, you come on, let's go apples.
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That's how it works, you know what I mean. So
once you stop this whole thing, you'll find that the
birds will become less traumatic as well.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Yeah, thank you very much. Yes, no, that's great. It's
going to solve a problem in half for me.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Good luck with that, Pa, All the very best to you.
And Bruce silver leaf.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Yes, hello, how are you?
Speaker 8 (17:24):
I have silver leafs?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah, my.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
And my Portuguese.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Laurel, and I heard you talk about you couldn't use
copper because you'll kill off all the new growth.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
And I have prune teg.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
But when you're trimming something around to make it night
into a nice.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Hedge, hang hang on, well, Bruce, Bruce, Bruce, hang on?
Silver leaf or a leaf cool that's been green color silver?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
It sounds like you're calling from the moon.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
When it's great, sounds good?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Did it sound pretty hard while it's beautiful the old
nightclub days, it's instead dye.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
Hi there, guys, we've got we're doing like a neighborhood
watch on this hornet thing. We've got twelve townhouses in
our body corporate and we're all having a really good
go to have a go at catching. We're in Albany
in Auckland, so we're not far from where the nests
were bound. But we've all bought from Bunnings and Mighty ten.
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We've got the hanging hornet nests for them to go
up into the MPI are using. We managed to get
hold of five of those. And then we've got the
packets sachet food for the German waft, which is supposed
to be a protein based one, but everyone's got baits
and packets and they're homemade recipes and that. But one
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of the elderly ladies she's got she just got the
Bunnings Echo waft sashets and made mud. Her trap is
quite her trap, three traps are quite large. But she's
getting over a liter of flies a week and I'm
the person having to clean them out for her, and
I'm just founded, and I haven't found a wasp in
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the year a German or English or none of the
nations have come to visit those tracks. So a Lisa
a week of flies right, amazing And it's not the
fly bait. She's definitely got the wasp bait. So we
just wondered if we should change her track to your
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recipe because we think we've cleared out most of the
flies in Albany.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Good luck.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah, I know what you're saying, all right now, I'll
tell you what some of the most important ingredients are
that I noticed online from people that have been working
on this, and there was some that was involved with
of course water and things like that, but also sugar,
yeast and the dish washing liquid which which stops some
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of these other guys getting in there. That's another story,
but but so this is the point. It is just
a matter of I would suggest going to mp I
and see if they've got some more new and better
examples on their websites that would help you out, because
if you get flies, that's to me not the right
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that's not the right attractant. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
Yeah, like her three trips quite large, they're one and
a half. Leader said, each week I've cleaned out a
letter of deep blowflies. It's disgusting. But yeah, no, no
other by Catcher there. There is no what it's not
doing one it's just during the fly, so our other ones.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I'll tell you what we'll do. We might do a
bit more research. I'm going to have a go at
your recipe. Uh, and then we'll we'll talk about it.
We might even get mp I on the show.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, let's do it, mate.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I have a great trip and enjoyed the taching this week.
All the very best to you folks, thanks for your company.
Saint Leo school Fair, ten o'clock today, see you there.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
You live.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
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