Daily Review With Clay and Buck - Apr 24 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis, at
and Buck Sexton Show is underway. Thanks for being here.
A lot of news, of course, the protest madness starting
on Columbia University's campus now replicated on a whole lot
of other campuses seeing it in Oh God, it's up

(00:22):
at Yale, It's so that's Connecticut, it's in Minnesota, It's
I can't even name all the states all over the place,
these campus protests breaking out right at the end of
the school year. Arrests have been made NYU and New York.
Arrest have been made there. So we're going to dive
into that whole situation for sure.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
And yes, sir, I just want to point out something
you said yesterday, but I think it's very funny and
worth pointing out. The protesters are so upset about what's
going on that they waited until the weather was good
enough to be able to camp out in the northeast
to actually camp out on the quad.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
They didn't use this in January and February. The Israeli
military escalation, invasion whatever has been going on for months. Yes,
and yet there was no occupy the Quad protest in February.
It's very funny now that it's you know, Hackey Sack
and Patchuli weather out in the quad. You know, everyone

(01:18):
just hanging out. They're having a good time. So we'll
discuss some of the madness here. And also, as we said,
real dedication would be University of Michigan or Minnesota or
Buffalo protesting out of the campus quad January. Then then
you're committed, like.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Right now, try to sleep outside when it's really cold.
I mean, it is absolutely brutal for anybody who has
ever done it. It's just very funny that it's now
nice outdoors weather and they're suddenly like, we've got to
we've got to take.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Over the quad, We've got to sleep outdoors. And yeah, yeah,
I remember I had to eat outside once long story,
during the worst of COVID madness, and it was January.
I was absolutely like I actually lost touch with my butt,
Like I don't know if it was there anymore, that's
how cold it was. You never want to be like,
is my butt still there? That's a bad day.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I We had a camp sleepover in February for the
school that my kids go to it's a dad's son
camp out, and you could take all your boys. And
my youngest at the time was like five or six
years old, and in the middle of the night, he
just came over to me and he said, Dad, can
I please get into your sleeping bag. I am just

(02:33):
so unbelievably cold, you know, my little kid and youngest son,
And he just climbed in and just burrowed down underneath,
just immediately went to sleep. I couldn't move, of course,
but it is funny. It is very worth noting, and
I haven't heard anybody else mention it. They're so committed
to the idea of anti Israel protests, but only if
it's not that cold outside, which is perfect for these people.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
So we've also got We're going to dive into that
a lot. I've I've been analyzing the masking phenomenon on campus,
and it's complicated and very interesting because there are a
lot of these protesters wearing masks. See the photos, you
see the videos. Why. I know everyone thinks they know why,
but it's actually different things depending on the protesters we're

(03:18):
talking about. I'll get into that in a moment. This story.
Clay sent this to me. This one just infuriates me.
This American dad, father of two, is arrested returning from
his vacation in the Turks and Caicos Islands in the Caribbean.
This kind of hits home. I was just in the
Caribbean myself, and he faces a mandatory twelve year prison

(03:42):
sentence for having a few hunting rifle. I believe it's rifle,
it might be shotgun. On even know a hunting ammunition
rounds for hunting. It wasn't clear.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Not a weapon, not a weapon, just a bag that
he had had maybe ammunition stored in before.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
And a couple of rounds. It was as anyone. Look,
I'll tell you I have. And I was taught this
by a Special Forces guy. He said, first of all,
no one ever packs your gear before you go out
onto the range or off the range. But you you
never let anyone else pack when you're dealing with ammunition
and firms, because you never know when someone's gonna inadvertently
stick a few rounds into this pocket because they're loose.

(04:19):
Loose rounds happen all the time. He said, you were
always It's almost like the airport things. If you said
you're always in charge of your kit to and from
the range. And it's because of situations like this, and
so anyway, it drives me insane. There is no justice
if somebody for an inadvertent mistake with no cost to

(04:40):
anyone or anything, it faces prison time. I want to
discuss that in a little bit morning, console Bloomberg Poll.
We'll get into this. I'm gonna have to calm Clay
down a little bit. It's a little early, still, Clay,
it's a little early, all right. We don't we can't
get too excited. We got to keep our composure. Trump
is absolutely trouncing Biden in all of these polls, Okay,

(05:01):
and we're gonna have We're gonna have to just look
at that reality, not get too far ahead of ourselves.
And then Supreme Court is looking at an Idaho abortion law,
federal law. And I've got some thoughts, Clay on how
they're taking this. Oh, one more thing, Walmart getting rid
of some automated checkout stations, but not because of efficiency.

(05:22):
We will discuss that. Walmart's already starting to phase it out.
But let's start with this. I I was like, look,
you're hearing some sanity from people out there in the
media in surprising places. And I think it's in part
because one they're worried about the they're honestly the backlash
for the Jewish community in this country in an election year,

(05:45):
and and you know, they probably should be right. Also, Clay,
I think that they so so they recognize the politics
of this, They recognize that it's something that could come
back and bite them. But there we'll get into some
of those moments. But first off, this was this was
on I think a substack. I'll track down the author

(06:06):
in a second. Pardon me for quoting without sighting, but
I'll have to quote it. Part of the reason, say
organizers at Columbia that they're masking remains an attempt to
make a point about exposure to COVID nineteen and other
health risks, which some in the protest movement believe remains dire.

(06:27):
Part of it is the threat of a different kind
of exposure from being captured by facial recognition technology or
being docks by counter protesters. Clay I was saying this,
I think you can tell the difference because if you're
just a civilization hating pro terrorist loon, you go with
the Kafia, you go with the scarf of you know
that you associate with hamas and this is like you know,

(06:50):
and you start, you walk around with that thing on,
and you do you look, you pull the whole sort
of Arafat routine. You go with that. But if you're
wearing a surgical mask, which in the photos huge, I
mean thirty percent of them are wearing either an N
ninety five or some kind of a surgical medical mask.
It's because they and they say it to their they're
being asked about this. They still think COVID is a

(07:12):
dire threat. They believe that.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
You know, there used to be laws to not allow
masking because the idea was clearly, you're more likely to
commit a crime if your face can't be seen. Go figure,
we need to bring back this. It's a public safety issue.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
In New York. For two hundred years, you were unless
it was needed for construction or an imminent work task,
you're not allowed to walk around with your face covered.
But I argue this during the pandemic play, so I
was diving into this history back then. It is absolutely
sensible policy to say your face must be people must
be able to see your face in public.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
I think even more so, they had to be connected
to the massive amounts of theft that we saw over
taking place in New York City, because as in a
camera age, being able to be seen as even more
of a distraction you would think from being willing to steal.
But yes, it's evidence to me that these people are

(08:13):
in a cult. And the scary thing about cults for
anyone out there that has ever studied them or paid
attention to them at all, is they don't respond to
rational thought. And this has been my argument for whatever
your political beliefs are, you can be the most diehard

(08:34):
Trump supporter out there right now. Don't be cult like,
look at the facts and be willing to have a
difference of opinion with a political figure. You should unless
you're the candidate yourself. You should never agree with anyone
on one hundred percent of the issues. I really mean that.
And I love those of you out there who listen

(08:54):
to Bucket Me and you're out there every day and
your diehards and you listen for three hours, I would
say the same thing to you. You shouldn't agree with
everything that we say on this program. There should be
some things where you're like, ah, I think they're wrong
on this, or I agree with Buck or I agree
with Clay.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
But Cray is wrong sometimes and I have to tell
him because of the honesty of the show. I have
to explain to him that flute players can be quite
masculine and handsome, and that eating ice cream alone is
not a problem.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
So and if we needed someone, Laura Travis would be
very happy to call in and lit a litany of
things that I am one hundred percent wrong with in
twenty years of marriage. And I'm sure Carrie, even though
you're relatively new in marriage, has a full list of
things that she has decided that you are wrong about.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
I'm wrong sometimes, I'm wrong sometimes, and I apologize in
advance for all of those wrongs that I have not. Yes,
that's a very smart married man thing to do. All
of you out there should be willing to challenge conventional
wisdom and any opinion out there. And what you're seeing
is this is what's scary, and I think you said

(09:59):
it also a it's worth pointing out you can be
highly educated and incredibly dumb. And what you're seeing from
these NYU faculty members. Ian Miller, who writes it out
cake and has been great on data, tweeted about it too,
what you're talking about. They were performing a human shield
to try to keep the police from being able to
do anything to the NYU protesters. And all of the

(10:22):
in the picture, all of the faculty members had on
masks in ninety five or whatever, surgical masks. Can you
imagine being a parent that is paying these people who
are wearing masks to instruct your children. I have some
disconcerting news for you, mister Clay, speaking about keeping it
real here, more and more it is coming out there

(10:43):
are a lot of parents who are supportive of this.
I got an email.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
That's it's the women's side of Columbia's Barnard writer Barnard. Yes,
I got an email that I want to read that
was sent to me yesterday of a mom who listens
to our show and has a daughter, Believe and is
in one of the parent Facebook groups and says, like
a lot of them are supportive of those protesters.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
These people see you. Remember you live in a red state.
I know these lunatics, the lunatic parents and the lunatic
kids tend to not always as we know, but tend
to go together. So yes, we definitely need to have
you read that email. A second. But first I just
wanted to note that this was on MSNBC. This has

(11:27):
cut ten professor Scott Galloway, who you know, like he
hates Trump, He's a Democrat. He actually does say some
sensible things. He said things before. He says things about
male masculinity and undermining men. And I think he's obviously
a high wattage guy. I mean he's like probably the
most famous professor at the NYU Stern School of Business,

(11:48):
him and Nuriel Rubini, you know who predicted the two
thousand and eight crash. Anyway, Galloway's going on MSNBC and
he's talking about, oh, what a surprise. The whole Israel
thing is a about being white rich oppressors more than
anything else. Plate ten.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
I think it's complicated. I think one, young people have
a healthy gag reflex from what people our age think,
and I think that's healthy.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Two.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
I don't think Israel hastraped itself in glory. Over the
last twenty or thirty years. They've shifted from being kind
of a David to the goliath. I also think that incorrectly,
students on campus conflate the civil rights movement with what
is going on in Palestine and have digressed, unfortunately because
of an orthodoxy promoted by me and my colleagues that
there are oppressors and oppressed and the easiest way to
identify oppressors is how white and how rich they are,

(12:35):
fairly or unfairly. Israel has seen as ground zero for
whiteness and how wealthy they are.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
We have been saying the months, four months, the reason
they have mobilized this is like BLM three point zero
visit to the Middle East. I mean, this is the white,
oppressing brown narrative that these kids have all latched onto.
And he even says because the professors all buy into it. Clay, Yeah,

(13:03):
so you're hearing it from He's a Democrat, he's a
tenured at NYU professor, and he's saying with Clay and
Buck have been telling you for months, almost like we're
ahead of the curve.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Credit to MSNBC for airing that and saying several things
that are counter I think to what would typically be
the left wing orthodoxy. I just I real discussion, even
if it comes from places that usually doesn't allow it,
I think should be praised.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I also think, you know, one of the we don't
have stated principles on the show other than just being truthful,
awesome and loving America. But I do think that something
that we do and we make a point of it,
is when someone says something that is a true statement,
we praise the truth in the statement and give credit
for the statement. We don't say, oh, well, now this
person is great, listen to them on everything. But if

(13:49):
someone says something that is true and accurate, we will
reflect it that way. We're not going to bash some
thing that is said by a person just because we
don't like the person, which is also a way of saying,
we got a great Fetterman clip for later on for everybody.
People keep telling me Fetterman's fooling you, he's trying to
keep McCormick from winning. That may well be true, and
we have said that, but the soundbites that Fetterman is

(14:11):
putting out, I can assure you, is enraging the left
wing pro Hamas Caucus.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
So oh, they've been protesting his house like crazy. I mean,
we'll talk about that and more when we come back
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Speaker 1 (15:45):
We're trying to make sense of the craziness going on.
Well that's every day, but particularly the insanity on college
campuses and what these protesters are running around saying. But
there's also what is the City of New York going
to do about? I would note that New York and
specifically Columbia University. Columbia University was where an Arab American

(16:09):
professor named Edward Sayid was teaching for a long time,
and also he wrote Orientalism, which is a whole theory
around how the West views the East, you know, meaning
the Middle East specifically in this case, but really the
East more broadly, with a bit of condescension and all

(16:30):
their problems are our fault. So this stuff has been
at Columbia University for a long time. It's not new.
It's been a hobit of this. In fact, producer Ali
reminded us that Ahmedinajad, I think it was back in
two thousand and ten when he was the when he

(16:50):
was the president of Iran or was it the Prime
Minister of Iran at the time. I think he was
the I think he was the president. Anyway, he visited Columbia,
and the Columbia students columb Me University was all very
excited about this until they asked Ahmadinajad, what about gay
people in your country and your treatment of them? And
his response was there are no gay people in Iran. So,

(17:13):
as you can imagine, that did not go over well
even with the Columbia students. Run has seventy million people.
I was two thousand and seven. I'm sorry, I was
a few years off. I can't remember everything off the
top of my head. Two thousand and seven he spoke
at Columba University. But let's just take a moment. The
mayor of New York City, Eric Adams, was confront So

(17:37):
he spends time in Florid, but I think he was
giving a speech. He's down here in Miami that I
could guess with three guesses which hotel he stayed in,
because he likes to party. He does, he likes the nightlife,
he likes the scene. So I have a feeling I
know where Eric Adams would be staying, probably somewhere very fancy,
very nice. But he was approached on his flight back,
the mayor of New York approached by a protester on

(18:00):
the plane, and the protester unsurprisingly unhinged insane.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Listen to this, Adams, Yes, you you support the Jason Pasta.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
They're homeoting all over New York. The girl is pa
You ain't actually cures about the New York. Where are
even Miami? Go ahead, you can tell you how how
is he? How is he supporting the genocide in New York,

(18:33):
or rather the genocide in Gaza. No, it's a fantastic question.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
You could also tell you can't see this girl, but
you can tell by the way she's speaking that she
is ripping him while wearing a mask on the airplane.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
There a couple of things.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
One can we stop normalizing because this happened to Alec
Baldwin too, pulling out your phone and recording someone while
you brate them, regardless of what your politics are. I know, look,
I mean this for Republicans, for Democrats, for people who
are independent. You don't make yourself or whatever cause you

(19:13):
believe in, look better when you hold up your camera
and scream at someone over political beliefs. We've got to
stop the normalization of this. We should as a nation,
I believe, ridicule people who are doing this. That's not
to say you can't protest or advocate for what you believe,

(19:35):
but in the same way that we've been pretty consistent on, Hey,
you shouldn't be able to show up outside of somebody's
house on their front lawn and protest and beat drums
and scream at them and wake up all their neighbors
in a residential area. On an airplane, you shouldn't pull
out your phone scream at Eric Adams. But Buck, this

(19:58):
is what they have on the li The left doesn't
know how to put the genie back in the bottle,
and now they're turning. Instead of going after the great Satan,
Donald Trump, they now are turning on each other. And
this is what the Left does. I've been waiting for it,

(20:19):
French Revolution style to turn on itself, and I think
with the Israel protest, with the heckling that we're seeing
happen of Eric Adams. Even Alec Baldwin, strongman of the Left,
got ridiculed at his coffee shop for not being willing
to scream free Palestine.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
I think for the first time on the show, I
could say that we stand with Alec Baldwin, which is
the very first time before. But but you know, if
you're acting like a jerk in public and just harassing somebody,
it's not discourse, it's not changing anyone's minds, it's not
winning overhearts and minds. It's just an act of pure intimidation.

(21:00):
And that's why what they're doing on campus and the
stuff they're saying about Jews and Jewish support for Israel.
And notice that Eric Adams supports the genocide in Gaza.
I mean, first of US's not a genocide. Second of all,
Eric Adams doesn't support it, and third of all, that
woman is an idiot. And what could he do even if.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
He did support it, Like, what does the mayor of
New York City have to do with something that's happening
five thousand miles away from him or whatever the mileage
total is. As if they're gonna be like, we weren't
really sure what to do to respond to the terror attack,
but Eric Adams, the mayor of New York City, made
a statement, and so we're going to change our mind.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Well, this is why Israel Palestine for the Left is
such a perfect issue of virtue stigma. And we've talked
about the racial dynamic. Then there's a religious dynamic that
anti colonial stuff and of course anti semitism broadly, but
also it's like climate change. It's an issue that everybody.
The proximity that you have to it is such that

(21:56):
you get to shout and scream and make demands and
do nothing and think that you're a good person. Right.
No one is saying to these protesters, why don't you
go to Gaza and you know, work in the you know,
work in humanitarian capacity there or anything else. They just
get to spew this nonsense. And then there's also just
the idiocy of young people who are brainwashed. And I
think we shouldn't forget that we have Rudy Giuliani, Yes,

(22:19):
the Rudy Giuliani shared this out a moment ago on
his Twitter account. This is a I said YESTERD in
the show. If I were in New York, I would
go to these things and I would ask questions because
you're gonna just it's a gold mine of content because
these people are are crazy, nasty and dumb. Overwhelmingly that's
what these press, the professors too. Mind you, right here

(22:43):
is one of the and I know it's only one,
but I think it's indicative of many more. And the
mindset here is one of the protesters outside of ny
you play it. What would you say is the main
goal with tonight's protest? I think the goal is just
showing our support for Palestine and demanding n YU stops.
I honestly don't know what NYU is doing. Is there

(23:04):
something that NYU's doing? I really don't know. I'm pretty
sure there. Do you know what ny is doing about that?

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Israel?

Speaker 5 (23:10):
Why are we protesting here?

Speaker 1 (23:14):
That was more educated? I'm not either. I can't play
in Columbia. I was there of Academia and we came.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
Down and our support, so I came down.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
I've heard there's lots of pomps. Some people were saying
it was getting dangerous play for it. For first leftists,
it's just a social outing, you know. It's Oh, we
were at Columbia protesting and like hanging out, and like
now we're down at NYU and it's like, what is
n YU even doing about this? Like do you know?
I don't know. It's this is just they get to bang,

(23:47):
like like spoiled bratts. They get to bang pots and
pants together and demand attention. And they're not even calling
for a cease far anymore. Notice they're calling for Palestine
to be free. What does that mean? Gods is free
and it's a horrible place. Okay, it's a horrible place.
The Palestinians have made very poor decisions.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
I guarantee you those girls posted on social media about
the fact that they went to the Free Palestine protest,
and they probably got favorable responses on social media, which
is again reflective of the fact that this is a
social contagion. I don't really even understand initially, I think
the idea of the college protest. Correct me if I'm wrong, Buck,

(24:26):
I'm trying to be logical here and understand what they're demanding.
I believe they were initially demanding that there be a
divestment of any assets that were connected to Israel. But
does anybody even understand how or First of all, I
don't know how many assets there are that are connected

(24:47):
to Israel, But the idea that you're going to demand
that somebody sell anything that's connected to Israel, first of all,
it's the most impossible. But secondly, they don't even understand
what that What would that?

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Do they the whole thing is preposterous. But also again
I'm a native New Yorker. NYU and Columbia have received
enormous amounts of money from Jewish American donors. Yes, and
so these campuses are caught in quite a bind because

(25:21):
the stuff that is being said about Jewish Americans the
Jewish people who support Israel, and that's kind of the
defining or the separating line here because there are Jewish
protesters too. We should not lose sight of that. As
I clay, this goes to why I've been telling you
I don't think the vote's going to change that much.
You said ten percent that could happen. Yeah, it's not

(25:41):
going to be eighty twenty. Though in favor of Trump,
I'd stake anything on that it might move a little bit.
There are Jewish pro Hamas protesters in America. As crazy
as that sounds to everybody, it is a reality. They
think this is a moral crusade for them as well.
It would be one thing if they had started this

(26:02):
moral crusade before October seventh, but after October seventh, it's
really hard to decide that you need to go on
a moral crusade to attack Israel. Because again, once twelve
hundred Jews got murdered in cold blood, it's very hard
to argue, Oh, the group that supported and put them

(26:23):
in power Hamas in Gaza is somehow deserving of your
commendation and support. There's also a backstory here, And as
I said, I started out my Midi studies, and I'm
not an Arab Israeli experts specifically. That's something that people
spend their whole lives on. But I started out working
at the Washington Institute for Near's Policy as an intern

(26:43):
for Dennis Ross, Clinton's envoy for the peace negotiations. I
worked on the book The Missing Piece, which you can
it's very boring, don't buy it. But I worked on
that book as a fact checker for a summer. And
so I started out on this issue, and so I
have some institutional memory of it, or just some on
understanding of the history and even the more recent history

(27:03):
Gaza was the Israelis, with tremendous internal opposition to it,
pulled out and said, fine, fine, we're gonna get rid
of all these settlements. We're going to take people, literally,
Jews kicking and screaming from some of these settlements that
are in this area of God and Gaza will belong
only to the Palestinians. And it was a very difficult

(27:25):
decision internally. It israelt the time because the Israelis were like,
why this should be ours? This is not, but put
that aside. They did it. They gave them greater autonomy.
They let them hold their own elections, and they elected
terror psychopaths who throw gay people off of buildings and
who engage in mass murder. And you find out there
are consequences. I don't know what else to say, is

(27:48):
what are the Israeli supposed to say? Now, Yeah, let's
give them more autonomy and freedom, let's give them more
acts of good faith. But how many people do you
think even know Clay that Gaza about the evacuation from
Gaza who are protesting here. I bet you five out
of one hundred kids in these protests even knows that
that happened. And the people who are all like jumping

(28:08):
on this bandwagon and talking about this as though it's
some kind of an uprising for justice, they're abject morons. Honestly,
they know nothing.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
College kids are dumb and have been dumb for a
long time. If we were in college and we're pretty smart,
and our listeners, some of them are in college and
they're very smart, so let's not get crazy. But I'm
less concerned with the college kids stupidity, more concerned with
faculty Columbia and NYU faculty showing up to create a
human shield to prevent any removal of these tents from

(28:39):
the quad and everything.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Masks the professors. This is why I said, guys, it's
not about fear of employment. Their tenured professors at these schools.
They're wearing masks because of COVID and because of solidarity
with the communist visual of the mask.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
They're in their forties, fifties, and sixties. They're far too
old to be this dumb. And that is why I
say they're in a cult, and they aren't willing to
recognize the fact that they're in a cult. They think
that they are the smart ones.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
We also have another Oh, they definitely think that they
have another Man on the Street interview where a journalist
goes up and asks them, will you just condemn like
the murder of Jews as a matter of principle, you
condemn the October seventh attacks. We will play some of
that audio for you. What these are professors not students?

(29:26):
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(30:57):
more of them actually just in the last hour. Harvard,
which you always know if somebody went to Harvard, and
a lot more than that when they tell you that
they went to they went to college in Boston, like, well,
there's dozens of colleges in Boston, which which one? You know,
if you went to be You or or Emerson or

(31:20):
you say that's where you went to school. But if
you went to Harvard. You have to make people ask
the question. I have to act like you don't want
to tell people like where did you go to school?
The little university in Cambridge, you know, not next to
the Charles River. Yeah, anyway, Harvard's campus is now the
site of another one of these protests, another one of

(31:43):
these Palestinian pro Hamas occupy. They got the oh I
got the photos here. They got the tents out Oh yeah,
is out there. Yeah, it's like an ad for an
outdoor camping store or something. They got a tents everywhere,
probably some little cook stoves stuff like that. They're ready
to go. And as we've said, it is lovely in

(32:05):
the Harvard Quad this time of year. So it's not
that much of a hardship. You know, you get to
you get the live stream, you fight against the man.
Yeah uh, you know, smoke a little weed, call the
cops pigs. I mean a lot of this stuff going
on there. But then we get a little sad because
we go over to Texas, a state we all love,
love our we love our Texans, great state, beautiful people.

(32:29):
We go down to Texas and University of Texas at
Austin Clay they've got one underway right now as well. Yeah,
so we've got more of these protests breaking out. I
think you're going to see a whole lot more of them.
It's an election year. These kids are all subject to
this contagion. Their professors have been filling their brains with

(32:50):
nonsense for years. But there is a professor I wanted
you to hear from. Actually, this is really interesting professor
John mccorter, who I believe is a Columbia University professor
but also makes the rounds on the podcast Circuit Rights
for the Atlantic, And he is an intellectual. He's a

(33:11):
Black American author who questions the Dei narrative and wokeness
and all this stuff. And so he is brilliant, but
not as celebrated by the left as he would be
if say he was like the serial plagiarist president of
Harvard or something, right, because you know, he's breaking with
the narrative. But here he is saying something that it

(33:35):
is going to get some people's attention. He is making
the claim that this is what Jewish students on campus
are being subjected to, provably demonstrably subjected to. Right now,
Clay is worse than anything black students have faced on
college campuses in America in fifty years. Play this clip.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
The generation of Jewish students are going to be in
printed by the fact that they feel persecuted, and they
can point to episodes of stark resistance, physical violence, near
physical violence, naked slurs hollered at them by people in
real time.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
All of that on campuses is becoming regular.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
And there's a whole contingent of supposedly educated people telling
them to shut up. Whereas, let's face it, racism on
college campuses exists. But frankly, I can confidently say essentially
no black student or fifty years has encountered anything that stark.
You have to work to find the quote unquote microaggressions,
et cetera. And yet anytime the black person claims student

(34:41):
claims racism, then we have to pretend the college campuses
are op eds of bigotry. That's not fair. And Jewish
students are watching this and they're disgusted, and I would
have to say, I would that's explicable. I understand they're discussed,
well said.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
I think it's really well said.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
And again, this is a really important time, I think
to contemplate what standards for speech are acceptable and unacceptable.
And one reason why, basically since the Civil Rights era
you would not have had overt racism against black students
on campus is because of the societal pressure. We've talked

(35:20):
about on this show before. If you were a kid
and you were caught on video using a racial slur
on any college campus in America, a white kid, if
you're a black kid and you rap along to a song.
Nobody does anything. But if you're a white kid, even
potentially if you're wrapping along to some popular song today,

(35:42):
you could be expelled. You could lose your job, your
basic entire future could vanish overnight because of one word
that you uttered on a video. There are major societal
consequences for saying anything that could even be perceived as racist.
I'm not talking about hurling racial slurs at someone buck,

(36:04):
I'm talking about rapping along to a Kanye West song
or some other song that is popular at this point
in time. That's how protective the speech is. When it
comes to black students, gay students, trans students, you'd be
kicked out immediately chanting death to Israel. If you chanted
death to black people or death to gay people, your

(36:26):
entire life is basically over on any of these campuses.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Oh absolutely, And I would say, and this is it
sounds almost crazy as you say it, but then you
know it's all so true as it is said. If
you had the choice in America today of being somebody
who at sixteen was caught on video saying the racial

(36:50):
slur that you know, you're never allowed to send her
any context. Even if you're like reading from a manuscript
or a court record, right, never allowed to say it
under any context. By the way, I disagree with that rule. Yes,
we abide bias because this is the rule. Ablide by
it because this is the rule. I disagree with that rule.
Meaning the intent of a word always matters. Calling someone
a slur is wrong and should be punished. A word

(37:14):
in any context being unable to be said by some
people is absurd. Actually, And by the way, Christopher Hitchins
completely for those of you remember Christopher Hitchins, completely agreed
with me on this. He was like, this is a
we should never have this thing of You can never
say the word to the point clay where people can't
in a court transcript say it. Okay, but let me
give you an example.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
By the way, my last book twenty seventeen, I quoted
Muhammad Ali.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
No person ever called me a blank.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Right, we can't say lots of words to be fair
on this radio program, like we can't curse, like all
sorts of things. The publisher called me, there's not very
many curse words in my book, but they're all there.
And they said, hey, we don't think you can use
the N word in this book because you're a white guy.
And I said, well, it's a quote from Muhammad Ali,

(38:04):
and they said, we're advising you not to use the
word quoting him.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
This is una, this is wrong.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
We're not goingng We're not going to block out words
like it's important. The context in which he is speaking matters.
So just to your example, this was only a few
years ago. The publisher contacted me and said, you can't
quote what what Muhammad Ali said because you're a white guy.
But you can also even just take it into this

(38:32):
this whole other direction for a second. I remember, I
think it was professor Christakis was his name, and he
there was they made the rounds. There was this intellectual
dark web for a while, they called it of different
professors on campus, and I think some of them were,
you know, in earnest. I think some of that was
just branding and marketing for people who were saying stuff
that conservatives have been saying for as long as we've

(38:53):
been conservatives in my case, like you know, forty two years.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
But anyway, you know, it wasn't like, oh my gosh,
these people came up with these new ideas, but some
of them were saying it on campus and there were
some conversion situation, so I get it, okay, but remember
Clay Christakis at Yale, it was over costumes for children
at Halloween. Yeah, and and the Yale student body and

(39:17):
the Yale administration. Yale's got these protests going on everybody.
I mean, this is the same entity they upheld the
standard that a like six year old dressing up as
a Native American Pocahontas, for example, a six year old
girl dresses as Pocahontas, she's a white girl. That that

(39:40):
is triggering and makes people feel unsafe. Therefore, Yale, the
university sent out guidance to please not don't have your
kids for professors. Really, this was don't have your kids
dress as anything that could be cultural appropriation for Halloween.

(40:00):
That's how Yale responds on that issue. And then the
Yale administrators and Yale professors are standing, you know, in
lockstep in many cases, with kids who are running around
saying death to Israel. Get the Jews out of here.
They're committing a genocide. They you know, control you as

(40:21):
foreign policy and push us into this and that. I mean,
the stuff that they're saying is so aggressively bigoted and biased.
But they're making an exception, because that's when that's what
John mccorter's saying. He's like, the rules are joke, friends,
the rules are a joke.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Think about how in that context for Halloween, people are
angry or at a six year old for dressing up
cowboy and Indian than they are at a grown adult for.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Pretending that he's a woman.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Like you're heroic if you dress if you're a man
and you pretend to be a woman, in the mind,
you're stunning and brave.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Even though you look like a dude with long hair
and too much makeup on. I mean yes, And if.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
If you're six and you dress up as cowboys and
Indians or some other similar esque costume, it's unacceptable.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
But just also on on on the rules that we
often live by. If you were saying, is it better
and you could do this with the whole range of things,
better to be caught on video saying the word that
we're never allowed to say at sixteen, or in terms
of your employment prospects, be accused of manslaughter killing someone
outside of a bar, you know, in a fight, it's

(41:31):
far better for your employment prospects to be to be
charged with manslaughter I think if you're convicted, maybe that's
probably because that's a fine. Here's an easy one. Better.
You better be a reputation to be charged with manslaughter
at sixteen than to be said, you know, to say
that word on video. That's the contrary.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
If you're a college freshman, it would be better for
you to get multiple DUI's then be caught on video
using a racial slur. Well, no, no question, that's not
that's but think about how yes it is multiple duiy's.
You could have killed somebody you got behind the wheel,
not once, but twice driving drunk. People will be like, oh,

(42:08):
you know, you shouldn't have done it, but we'll still
hire you video using a racial slur. Your life is
basically over.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
We have racial power dynamics that are very very much
at play in this country, just not the ones that
the media pretends exist. And that's what the Jewish students
on campus are learning are finding out. Oh there's race
politics in America, it's just not what the media and
the professori professoriat on campus as it is. You have

(42:40):
been oppressed for thousands of years if you are Jewish,
documented without question historically, you have just six months ago
had the biggest massacre of Jews occur since the Holocaust.
You can say whatever you want about a Jewish person
on any campus right now with no consequences. And I

(43:02):
think there are a lot of people out there that
this has been eye opening. I don't think you and
I are stunned by it. I think we would have
seen this coming, oh yeah. But I think a lot
of people out there on the left who may be
traditionally Jewish Democrat voters, it's been very eye opening and
enlightening for them. I mean even during the BLM era,
you would have seen leftists. Again, there are a lot

(43:25):
of conservative Jews listening to us right now. I was
at a passover with my conservative Jewish friends and neighbors
a couple of nights ago. They already knew this, right,
they know this reality. But there's this, you know, the
forty no more than that fifty or sixty percent of
Democrat voting Jews in this country, there's a contingent of
them who are really hard left, and you know they go,

(43:47):
they would have gone to say BLM protests, and still
alongside some of these some of these you know BLM organizers,
And I just want to tell them the bom. Some
of those folks are incredibly anti Semitic. They hate you,
they hate you. Yes, yes, I know that. The conservative
Jews know that, But some of the left wing Jews
think that, oh no, it's all we're all the oppressed people. No, no, no,

(44:10):
there's a hierarchy of oppression and Jews are white as
far as the rest of the left is concerned. Jews
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of them are and we've said here israelis represent you know,
a whole range of ethnicity, skin, colors, everything. But at
the end of the day, the American left thinks that
Jews are white and white people are oppressors. And that's

(44:31):
how it goes.

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Speaker 1 (46:06):
Wow. We got minute by minute updates here on these
campus protests going on. As we told you up at Harvard,
they now have their own pro pro terrorist protests out
on the quad and we're a little sad ut Austin.
I got to say if I were people asked me
these days, And there's actually an article about this to

(46:28):
Clay don't remember where it was about how more and
more people are aeshewing the You know, look, the oldest
universities in the country, for the most part, are clustered
in the northeastern United States, the coastal northeastern United States.
It's where the Ivy League is a bunch of other
fancy schools, and there used to be this idea, Oh,
you get into one of them, your life will be easy.

(46:49):
Let me tell you, I know a lot of losers
who went to Harvard. I do. It's true. I know
a lot of a lot of very unimpressive people, a
lot of schmo's who go to Ivy League school and
not not just the ones who go to Cornell because
everyone makes fun of them anyway, because they're they're like,
we're also an Ivy school. I'm gonna get so many
Aggri Cordell emails over that one.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
But well, that's the great Andy Bernard on the Office bit, right.
That was why it was so great.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
It's because people are always because the other Ivy League
schools are always like, yeah, I guess Cornell's Ivy League.
It's a great school. I'm kidding, but.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Lots of people feel like they've made it when they
go to an elite school and then you.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Come out and you're like, yeah, nobody really cares. Nobody cares. Nobody. No,
it's true, nobody, especially for undergrad nobody cares. But there's
this whole movement toward people looking at a lot of
schools in there in the Red States that everyone's moving
to because there are great schools where you have better weather,
better campuses, better overall experience. And I know Austin is

(47:50):
very very blue, so please the Texans always like Austin
doesn't count. I'm like, no, no, I get it. But it's
still a beautiful campus. It's a great school. I've spent
a few I've walked around on the campus. There are
a few times. But they they had a protest that
started like an hour or two ago, and they have
am I right, you're seeing this? Have they already just
shared video? National Guard in Austin. They just rolled right.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
They were trying to take over the quad at the
University of Texas as they have just taken over the
quad at Harvard is spreading all over the northeast in particular,
also in the West coast, and there's been some talk
my school where I went, Vanderbilt, Uh, there have been
a few southern red states. They were trying to take
over the quad at the University of Texas and they

(48:36):
just sent in the full cavalry and just wiped out
the whole protests. They have arrested everybody, They have cleared
the entire they have cleared the entire quad. If you've
been frustrated at the response that you have seen at
many of these universities, Greg Abbott and the State of
Texas said, yeah, we ain't playing and this. A lot

(49:00):
of these schools are not going to have it happen anyway.
Try this at Texas A and M. You got no
hope of the students will just roll out and be like,
screw you guys, Like we're tearing down your campus squad.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Protest. You should be able to protest.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
I want to be clear, you don't have the right
to put tints on the quad and take over public
property for your protest. This should have never been allowed
to happen anywhere. But Texas is saying this ain't happening.
This is what I think Ron DeSantis would do. This
is what I think Governor camp down in Georgia will do.

(49:35):
This is what I believe Bill Lee and Tennessee Kevin
Stitton Oklahoma. I could run through a lot of red
state governors that are just going to say now we're
not playing this game. And I give credit to Texas.
They may have to do it multiple times, because these
kids may get arrested, and they may get let right
back out on the streets, and they may come right back.
And it's important to mention. I do think this is

(49:57):
important to the extent we haven't mentioned at Buck. A
lot of these people I don't think are even enrolled
at the university. They are professional agitators who are showing
up and trying to get into a tent on campus,
and they're not even enrolled at the university. They're just
professional protesters, same people who got all fired up about BLM.
Remember how they would pull in with trucks and suddenly

(50:19):
there's all this material that gets distributed, all these signs,
all these tents aren't suddenly showing up by accident. This
is an organized attempt, probably funded by Middle Eastern interest.
If you are China, if you want me to really
kind of dive into where this is coming from.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
But Texas saying we're not doing this. You know, we
had mentioned the first hour that there are I don't
know if we call them unlikely heroes, but some unlikely
heroic moments that are coming out of this whole situation too.
And we had that caller last hour who said, I
appreciate you guys, give it to me straight. I'm aware,

(50:55):
Clay and I are aware that John Fetterman may be
playing some for each here by making him seem like
he's reasonable on this because there's really only two. There's
crazy and normal on this issue, right, there's not a
lot of middle. Like, if you think anything about what
Hamas did on October seventh wasn't as heinous as anything

(51:16):
could ever be, you know, you're crazy. So there's crazy
and there's normal on this issue. And Fetterman is going
hard in the direction of normal on a regular basis
here on this issue. Here he is just straight up
chewing out some of these anti Semitic pro Hamas protestors.
This is seventeen player.

Speaker 6 (51:37):
It's completely reasonable to want to cease fire or to
have a different view on that. Absolutely that's a democracy,
but it is not appropriate or illegal or it's helpful
to advance your argument. If you show up in a Starbucks,
I mean a Starbucks with a bullhorn and start yelling
at people, and that doesn't make you noble. It just

(51:59):
makes you. I'm not suggesting that you have to agree
with our v my view, but it's just saying it
doesn't really allow you to disrupt lives and to inflict
those kinds of of damages on people that are just
trying to get on with their lives.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Yeah, that that is the critical distinction. It's essentially what
you were saying in essence a moment ago, which is
if people wanted to gather peaceably with their with their
dumb placards. They do this all the time. I remember College,
the movie PCU, as in Politically Correct University. PCU is
brilliant on this issue. Although I don't think PCU is
politically correct enough to be made anymore. I don't think

(52:38):
you could get away with making that movie now. But
that's a whole other thing. At the time, it was,
you know, maybe a little bit on the edgy side.
It's a fun watch, I will tell you, but it's
just about these these campus activists, whether it's the vegans sorry, uh,
the you know sort of the black student group, the uh,
all these different sort of pro I can't remember them now,

(53:00):
all these different protest entities that are on campus that
are upset about the feminists Ovia feminists in the nineties.
A lot of fun with that one, all this stuff.
You know, if you want to make your point, you
can make your point. That's not what these people are doing.
And when you go into a Starbucks and shout at
people with a bullhorn, or even shout at Alec Baldon,
as much of a jerk as that guy is, you're

(53:21):
the jerk. You are the jerk when you're doing that.
And even Fetterman knows it. So golf clap for John Fetterman.
You mentioned all that, Buck, and it took me back
in time. You can still look this up. Do you
know what The first thing that I ever had published
in my entire life was in nineteen ninety seven. I
was a freshman at George Washington University. You guys, can

(53:43):
somebody can google this and pull it up. There was
a controversy on campus because a school administrator at GW
BUCK used the phrase rule of thumb and a about
the thickness of the stick that you hit a woman with. Yeah,
a left wing feminist chick. They had a protest demanding

(54:05):
that the campus administrator be fired because the language was
demeaning because historically rule of thumb was what you could,
according to her, beat a woman with based on the
width of your thumb A rod and I wrote at
eighteen years old, Hey, this is and I'm paraphrasing, this
is absolutely ludicrous. Context matters. The idea that you would

(54:30):
fire anybody over this is crazy. At eighteen that was
actually considered to be somewhat of a liberal opinion. Now
it would be a conservative opinion. I've stayed pretty much consistent.
You can go look it up GW.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Hatchet student newspaper in that controversy, I wait in so
say whatever you want, make whatever argument you want to make,
do not bring your friggin tent and take over a
university campus and think that you're going to be able

(55:01):
to do it. And I give credit State of Texas
Vanderbilt University, which is a private school here in Nashville.
Red states seem more open to being able to solve
this problem than Blue states and blue cities by and
large two.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
So far, and I hope it continues. It's just going
to be good for everything in these red states, you know,
the Big three of Texas, Tennessee, Florida in terms of migration,
but also in the schools. This is going to be
good for the schools in those states. You know in Florida.
Ronda Santis just came out and said again to clarify,
if you block a road as a protest, you're getting

(55:39):
arrested and you're going to be prosecuted. And he made
the point that we've made on the show many times,
which is people need to get to their jobs, People
need to get to the hospital ambulances. Get caught in
that stuff, like the idea that you could just shut down,
you could steal hours of somebody's life and put them
through that frustration because you're upset about climate change, your
Palestine or whatever this is. We are not a civilized

(56:02):
place if we allow lunatics to do this stuff.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Now, I think it would only take putting, like passing
specific law and saying hey, you have to go to
prison for six months, no expense, no no if sand
or Butts, if you block a road for protests, regardless
of what your what your motivation is. In the United States,
you're going to jail.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Oh you know, sometimes you look at like things you
get automatic sentencing for mandatory minimums for Yeah, we talked
about this poor guy coming back.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
From Yeah, we have the audio of that to play
when we come back to close out Yes.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
K Coast. Look, I mean, you know, I know the
Biden State Department is full of a bunch of you know,
gosh darn communists. I know that. But maybe in their
in their hardened communist hearts, they could remember we got
an American American dad and husband who's facing twelve years
in prison for what is clearly an accident. He had

(56:56):
a couple of rounds. Uh. You know, he had a
couple of rounds of ammunition on him when he was
going through the airport security to come home, not even
to get into the country. Yeah, not like he's going
to do anything the Turks and Caicos. Is he trying
to get back to America. It was a mistake. Everyone
knows it's a mistake. They have a mandatory system now
where they'll send them to prison for twelve for twelve years,

(57:17):
twelve years for twelve years, guys from Oklahoma City, where
we'll have the audio for you when we come back.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
So I think CBS News did a story on this
just I almost think it's a PSA for everybody out there.
You just came back from the Caribbean. He went with
his wife on a vacation trip to Turks and Caicos,
which I don't know the overall crime rates in Turks
and Caicos. I would think that it's probably pretty safe.
It's it's pretty really it's not.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
It's some of these like Trinidad and Tobago is uh
uh or Tobago in the US Virgin Islands. I'm still
licensed there so far as I know. Some of those
islands actually have a lot of crime for the eys
of the island.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
But I would think Turks and Cacos would be more
like Saint Bart's where you just were, where it's very safe.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
But maybe i'm play The only crime in St. Bart's
is wearing designer labels that are too ostentatious. They will
throw you in prison if your Gucci logo is too big.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
I'm just saying, if your wife's ring is not enough carrots,
not enough carrots, I think they might throw you in
jail there.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
It does offend their eyes when you are not wearing
loro piano in public. There.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
I don't know what that is there. You go, I'm
not cool enough, I'm legit. I've never heard of that
in my entire life. Look, you want to make somebody
and go to the Caribbean. I got an idea.

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