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June 25, 2024 36 mins
How Trump should handle the 2020 election question at the debate. Jamaal Bowman in trouble in New York Democrat primary. Fallout from the Karoline Leavitt CNN interview. Tapper and Bash. C&B talk movies, Crockett Coffee.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody, Tuesday edition. I almost got the day wrong
of the Clay and Buck Show. Always a good start.
I've done that a few times, gotten a day on
right off the top. I was ready to reset it
all the Monday for you, everybody, But this is Buck.
I'm back. I'm glad you had fun on Friday and
Monday with play. We are going to take you through
everything that matters today here on the Clay and Buck Show.

(00:22):
We've got more debates, prep debate preview and even I
think efforts to try to soften up the defenses of
one side or another. We will have that as a
big part of our conversation today because this could be

(00:42):
could be among the most consequential presidential debates any of
us have seen. It also could be kind of a
nothing burger, So you've got some very big differences and outcomes.
Usually I think debates end up being a nothing burger.
That's just my personal opinion. But I think this time around,
it could matter a whole heck of a lot. Primary
day in New York AOC, did you do AOC already,

(01:05):
Clay running up to the microphone like we have any No,
we haven't even talked about that because I was figuring
it's primary day that you'd want to weigh in. Bowman's
in trouble. Bowman's in trouble. It's time for him to
pull the firearm again, so to speak, so to speak,
because as he found out, it is in fact illegal
to pull a fire alarm for no reason. But he

(01:26):
is looking like he might lose his primary primary day
in New York. Some interesting stuff going on there. Latest polling,
Trump's advantage in Georgia looking pretty good, the Surgeon General
saying that there is a gun violence emergency, which is
just a way of leveraging I'm a health professional, and

(01:47):
here's why I'm going to do the work of Democrats
on gun regulations now. And also I'll sort of put
this out there because I'm not sure Clay or I
have a particularly strong take on this one, meaning a
strong opinion on this one. Julian Assange is basically a
free man, you know, he was. I think you could

(02:10):
say he's a radical transparency journalist. I guess that's maybe
the best way to put it. And it is interesting
to me that the US government claims that if you
are involved in taking its information, even as a non
American you can be subject to US federal law. That's
a little scary. Anyway, we'll discuss more of that come

(02:32):
up a little bit. But I remember Clay, I actually
interviewed as songe back when he was living in the
I believe it was the Ecuadorian embassy in the UK. Yah,
we did a skype interview on a podcast I was
doing many years ago. He was full on living there.
I mean you could see, like, remember how we all
had long hair and long beards and looked a little

(02:54):
disheveled during COVID. I mean, he had that, except it
was before COVID. But anyway, he's going to walk a
free we'll discuss that. I mean, I think the single biggest,
the single biggest thing that you're seeing this week is
the narratives around the Thursday debate were forty eight hours
out from what will be the first major event of
the presidential election cycle. I mean, one that could set

(03:18):
everything in one direction or another depending on how it goes. Clay,
we should talk about how they're trying to message this
before anyone even says says a word. We've got more
on the VP stakes too, by the way, but I
would just put this out there. You know, everyone should
understand CNN is a Democrat network. These are Democrat operative anchors,

(03:41):
both of them. And Trump is going into a hostile
environment with a lot of the rules already agreed upon
in a way that I think will benefit Joe Biden.
And also Biden has very low expectations set for him,
So I think that this is going to be Uh,
this could go either way. Really is what? Meaning that

(04:03):
the benefits could accrue to Trump or to Biden. I
do not see this necessarily having a preordained outcome. I
think the most likely outcome is both sides declare victory,
and well, that always happens, right, like we don't. Literally
every single debate, both sides the claim victory, but that
it doesn't really move the needle, and people say, see

(04:25):
Biden's up for this, much like we saw with the
State of the Union. So you say nothing, Burger, you
say nothing, Burger Base. Well, so I think the most like,
I got a good question for you. But the problem
Biden has is whatever he does in this debate, unless
he's really awful, which I've got a theory on, but
if he's just like about like what we saw the

(04:47):
State of the Union, and they kind of yell at
each other and talk over each other. I know the
mics are getting cut and things like that. It's a
ninety minute debate. There are seven or eight minutes of commercials.
There will be questions. Biden's not gonna have to talk
much more than about thirty minutes, So I think it's
going to be hard for him to completely collapse. My
thing on this, though, Buck, question for you, and I

(05:08):
think what will happen is they'll say, see, he was great,
like he's just like to stay of the union. Problem
for him is then he has to go back out
on the campaign trail and we're going to have more
of these dementia Joe moments because they can't keep him
on this level all the time. But question for you,
is it actually better for Trump if this is basically
a draw? Because if Biden got smoked and it was

(05:31):
really bad and he froze up a couple of times,
I think that they would replace him. I think this
is past fail. That's my theory for Biden, and I
expect that he will pass because they're cramming him for
seven days. I think they're gonna shoot him up with
pro vigil or whatever. Else he needs. He'll go out
there all high as a kite, just like he did
for the State of the Union. But let's say that

(05:55):
it went in a way where Trump just obliterates him.
He's up there, he mumbles, he stumbles, he can't put
a coherent thought together. Don't you think that the pressure
on Biden to drop out if he truly got obliterated,
would actually work against Trump's chances to win? Well, that's
what you're really asking me, is isn't Biden the opponent

(06:17):
that Trump wants? Which is a much more complicated question
than it can see him at first, right, because there
are definitely people who make the claim, make the case
that Trump is the opponent that Biden wants, although the
numbers don't support that so far. I don't think that
they would have been able to run Joe Biden. If
you had had somebody who was, let's say, in their

(06:41):
fifties running and getting decent numbers, I think that then
the age thing might have been a much bigger factor.
The age thing is not a very big factor because
they're just a few years apart. So you think i
Ron DeSantis or Nicky Haley was in that would have
made them be like, we can't run Biden. I think so. Yeah,
I think that because it would be the numbers themselves,

(07:01):
and then also the difference in visuals. I know, Trump
looks you know, more with it and everything else than Biden.
But really what's what's interesting is between now and the election,
there's what we know as Trump voters. I'm a Trump voter,
you're a Trump voter. Most of this audience there are
some people who aren't. You know, welcome, hope you're learning
and enjoying yourself, but but we're not. It's not about

(07:23):
Trump voters really at a certain level at the debate
right they're already in. It's about persuading people who are
still not yet decided upon whether they're Biden or Trump voters.
And to do that well, I think that Biden's approach
is going to be that Trump is a threat to
democracy and all the things that we already recognize. For Trump,

(07:46):
I think he poses more and more as just the
guy who can say, look at my record, look at
this guy's record. Really, what do you want again? You know,
what do you what do you want to have? But yeah,
I think that if if Biden had a terrible showing
in this debate. Uh, it's probably just a Trump's advantage
in the long run anyway, because I still I do
not believe that there is any way for them to

(08:09):
replace Biden with a better candidate. And I think that
if they had to replace Biden would be with Kamala Harris,
who was actually a weaker candidate. So at this stage
of the game, I really believe that Biden is there
truly their best shot, even if he's not a good shot.
If that, I know, that seems like it doesn't mean
What do you think would happen if he really got smoked?

(08:29):
Like if the Biden that we saw at the G
seven kind of distracted aimless? Heck what I can't believe
we have to say this, but what if he tripped
walking on to the stage, or clearly had a fifteen
second freeze in the headlights moments, or god forbid, called

(08:49):
Donald Trump like Ronald Reagan. I mean, I mean, you know,
I mean, these are crazy things, but there's no there's
just and I know people don't want to hear this,
but I've been telling you us all along, there's no
chance any that's gonna happen. There's no chance in it's
gonna happen. There's too much riding on it for the Democrats.
I think Biden, even when he's spouting gibberish, it's Democrat

(09:11):
talking points. This is all this guy has done for
going on fifty years. You know, he just and it
doesn't matter what. This isn't a debate in the sense
that you know, Biden's going to wrestle with hard questions
from Trump or you know, it's gonna be insults them
calling and talking points from Biden. There is He's not
going to be trying to do the intellectual jiu jitsu

(09:34):
of handling policy discussions or handling his record in any
kind of an honest way. So if that's the case,
you know, I just have no faith, all right, Rather,
I have no belief at all that that you're gonna
see Biden. He's gonna look. I think the biggest problem
is he's just he just looks too old. I mean,

(09:55):
the actual visual presentation is this guy looks like, you know,
he should be in like a late stage care facility somewhere.
I'm just that's just the truth. And they can't really
just by all the plastic surgery they've done and all
the drugs they're gonna juice him up with and all
the things, he still is going to look like that,
do you know what I mean, that's the thing that
I think they can hide from. But the am I

(10:18):
crazy buck to your point to think that one reason
he's not going to be in public for a week
is because of all the plastic surgery they're going to
try to do. Like I think they're going to shoot
the guy up with botox. I think they're gonna I mean,
if you look at pictures of Joe Biden from when
he was vice president to side by side today, he
doesn't even look like himself the amount of work that

(10:40):
he's had done. And does anybody even talk about the
amount of plastic surgery that he's had. His nose doesn't
look the same, his chin doesn't look the same, his
face doesn't look the same. I mean, he's had a
ton of work done. As a guy, honestly, unless you
were in some kind of and I mean this, unless
you had some kind of like a terrible accident, I
just understand. In that case, it may. You know, it's

(11:02):
a wonderful thing they can do the things that they
can do, But it's as though his faith doth protest
too much? Its age like, it's what are you doing, buddy?
And I think that the visuals between Trump and Biden
will be even more stark than the difference in cognition
that's apparent from what they say. They're gonna give Biden whatever.

(11:23):
They're not doing a drug test, right, Can they even
test for whatever they give him. I don't know, Now
that's a great question. I don't know they could. But
they're giving him whatever it is, whatever it is that
Biden needs to get through this thing. And and he's
just gonna say what he's gonna say what he's told
to say. He's not going to engage with Trump on this.
And I've said this all along, and I worry about this,
and some you know, this is a moment of this

(11:46):
is a moment of clarity with all this. These anchors
are going to try to They're going to try to
trap Trump on something that has to do with his
ego in a way that Trump will say something that
you know, will become the big sound bite for the
demo crats that we'll all say, oh, who cares. But
maybe it will be a problem with swing voters, with

(12:07):
undecided voters. And I just I wonder. I mean, I
can tell you right now, if they ask Trump about January,
I'm sorry about well, they will ask about January six,
but about the twenty twenty election specifically. Trump should say
Joe Biden has been In my opinion, he should say
Joe Biden has been president for four years. He's done
a terrible job. I am focused on winning this election,

(12:28):
and if they keep pressing him to say I will never,
in my heart believe that twenty twenty was free of
substantial fraud. But that was four years ago. We have
another election now. We're going to be watching very closely
for more fraud from Joe Biden. And I'm focused on
winning this election. If he starts going into how he
actually won by fifteen million votes or something that I

(12:50):
can tell you this every Democrat that I follow, because
I have lists of Democrats that I follow online and stuff,
you know, on x that's all they want him to
do more than anything else. They want him to say
something about about twenty twenty that, oh, yeah, the Trump
the Trump base is gonna love it. They're going to say, oh, absolutely,
he's speaking the truth, and that's great. The two percent

(13:10):
of the country that's voting is going to say, ooh,
twenty twenty twenty was poisoned. In twenty twenty two. It
was very clear from the races that did not go
our way that we're close. They're going to try to
position him in a corner on this one. They're going
to try to ambush him on it. But I think
Trump will handle it better than I think Trump will
handle it actually pretty well, that's my prediction. But they

(13:32):
are going to try to get him on it. Too
big to rig is a good way to handle it.
I think they rigged the election. They didn't allow the
hunter Biden laptop story to come out. They did everything
they could to put him in office. But this isn't
about twenty twenty. This is your answer is the right one.
This is about him doing an awful job and President,
you either have to decide do we want to bring
this guy back for four years or not? And I

(13:52):
think the answer is for most of the American public no, Remember,
Biden's the incumbent. Trump can be the attacker, but he
needs to be in a droit adept, not crazy, deranged attacker,
if that makes sense. There is a part of me
too that wonders if Trump beats up on him too much. Again,
going back to the what is the absolute inescapable? Biden

(14:14):
looks like a frail old man who, whether you've even
spoken to him or not, does that guy have dementia?
You look at him in the question crosses your mind,
and I mean and we can say, oh, that's not fair. Yeah,
this is the world we live in. Okay. People see
people and they come up with guesses in their heads about, well,
this guy is almost one hundred years old, Like, there
might be a problem here. I wonder if Trump beating

(14:37):
up on Biden too much also may be a backfiring
situation just because Biden looks feeble and old, you know
what I'm saying. And if Biden tries to be more
statesman like and calm and Trump goes at him too hard,
you know, it's all a question of to your point, Clay,
our side will say that Trump wont I think almost,
no matter what Biden's side will say, he won't. No

(14:59):
matter what, what is a voter who voted for Obama
once but Trump once and Biden once in Michigan? Think
about this, who hasn't decided yet, or in Wisconsin, or
in Georgia or Pennsylvania. I mean, that's what I think
really matters. Well, take your calls on this, because honestly
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(17:03):
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Filter, ma'am, I'm gonna style. If I'm statium to attack
my colleagues, I would like to talk about.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
I'll truck who you work for?

Speaker 3 (18:51):
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I will to have this conversation.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I am stating facts that your colleagues have stated in
the past. Now we're going to conpectation.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Carol, thank you very much from your time. You are
welcome to come back at any point. She is welcome
to come back and speak about Donald Trump and Donald
Trump will have equal time to Joe Biden when they
both join us now at next early later this week
in Atlanta for this to.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Be oh man, I gotta tell you that's that's one
of those moments. That was the flashback when Caroline Levitt
of the Trump campaign and Clay and I have new
Caroline back when she was running for Congress in New Hampshire.
We had her on the show, introduced her to the
audience several years ago. We were trying to help her
get elected out there in New Hampshire. But that was
one of those moments where I was like, oh, Clay's
gonna have so much fun with this one. It's like

(19:37):
watching somebody else in the batting lineup on your team
getting the exact pitch you want. Because I'm just like
I'm off today. This would be so fun as somebody
he used to work at CNN, although never formally banned
by seeing not formally at least, I'm a little jealous
Clay got formally banned. But I tell you there's so

(19:58):
much here. One thing is, there's nothing better that could
happen for a Trump campaign spokesman then to have a
CNN anchor talk over them, flip out and kick them
off the air. I mean, it's like when the purple
haired maniacs show up and start like shrieking about Palestine,
global warming and trans rites at the college speech. They
should Conservatives should should pay those lunatics to show up

(20:21):
because of the visuals, because of the attention it brings.
It shows our side like nice, well dressed, happy, their
side freaks like losing their minds and breaking laws. So
it's very beneficial, and I think this is very beneficial
for Caroline Levitt and certainly the Trump campaign on some level.
But the part of it that struck me even more.

(20:41):
Clay And I don't know if you if you got
to this yesterday. I was in transit during parts of
the show. But is she really trying to tell us
that the Tapper and Bash aren't Democrats, that these people
aren't pro Joe Biden? I mean, you know what I'm saying, Like,
is the official party line here from CNN supposed to

(21:02):
be that these are unbiased moderators? Because that's just that's
just crazy, you know what I mean? Like, that's not
No one really believes that, do they do they think
we believe that. It's a great question. We had Caroline
on yesterday and this you know, of course came back
to me getting banned. We had a lot of fun
with that. But question for you, how high up the

(21:26):
food chain did that decision to ban Caroline since or
her kick her off? Go You've been on CNN a lot,
do you think this was just like a show producer?
Is this something where it's higher than that and they
get on the phone to the producer and they say
this is unacceptable? Like, what do you think CNN management

(21:48):
reaction was to this because a part of me feels
like it's almost like WWE right where you're staging a
conflict to try to juice the numbers. Later in the week,
as I was thinking of it more and then I
also wondered, is it just in competence or intent? Right? Like,
where did it come from on cnnside? So what I

(22:08):
think is there? First of all, back in the day,
Jeff Zucker used to be he moved his office a
little bit of CNN inside or info for some of you,
or at least you know, people that pay attention to
CNN know this. The people used to say, oh, the
headquarters is Atlanta. False. For a long time now the
true headquarters of CNN has been New York City. Jeff
Zucker's office, and he put it right next to the

(22:31):
main newsroom in New York City so that he could
observe and overhear what was going on all the time.
So Zucker's office was right. I know Zucker doesn't run anymore,
but I'm just giving you some sort of how the
structure would work. And as a former producer, I think
he was a Today Show producer, Zucker was he would
sit in the control room sometimes and basically act like

(22:51):
an EP on a show and get in someone's ear,
and he's the guy who decides, do you make two
hundred grand or four million? Right? Do you make five
hundred grand or ten million? Just whatever Zucker says basically,
so you do whatever he tells you. I don't know
if it's like that right now. No, I was just
gonna say, I think what you said is really important there.
As you break it down further, people tend to think

(23:13):
if you're on television, you're super rich, and you can
a lot of the people who are on television do
not have the ability to not be on television. Right.
You can speak to this for what it costs to
live in New York City. But to your point, I
think a lot of people out there listening think, oh,
those people who are on television, they can do and
say whatever they want. Most of them are in golden handcuffs.
They're afraid all the time of losing their jobs, and

(23:35):
their management knows it. And I think that factors in
here in terms of how much freedom they actually have
on air. And the other part of it, though, is
I think the ouster of Lick, who had been running
Chris Lick to Heedburn and CNN in part because of
that Trump town hall where he steamrolled Caitlin Collins, right,

(23:59):
I mean that was considered some there was a revolt
inside the CNN newsroom. I think that people inside CNN
who are just trying to kind of cling to whatever
perch they have there. The message they took from that
is you better, you better not get steamrolled, and you
better defend the brand more than anything else. Defend CNN
more than you defend Joe Biden. But you can't make

(24:21):
us look like fools on this network, or allow us
to be made to look like fools. So I think
that's why there is this over protectiveness. But also, I
mean it's absolutely relevant, absolutely one hundred billion that Jake
Tapper has been absolutely trashing Donald Trump for years, Okay,
absolutely trashing Donald Trump. It could not be more clear.

(24:43):
He is a Democrat partisan. He is not an objective journalist.
And let me say, I don't think anyone I'm not
even singling him out. I don't think anyone at MSNBC
or CNN is an objective journalist. But this notion that,
I mean, the only reason you might think, how do
you say, is Donna? What is it dot Dana Bash,
Dana I believe I was good. It's Dana Bash. It

(25:05):
should be I don't know why you can be yeah,
and you should have to pronounce your name like it's spelled.
But it's dot Dana, Dana Bas, Dana Bash. The only
reason somebody might make the mistake of thinking that she's
objective is that she has nothing to say. She's kind
of just a newsreader, but that's not the same. That
just means she doesn't read as much. Like Tapper is
a higher wattage person than Dana Bash, but she's not

(25:28):
more fair minded than he is. Tapper just reads more
than she does. That's it. They're both Democrats. So what
do you think this k C Hunt or whatever her
name is. I didn't even know who was hosting the
morning show at CNN. Do you think it's her car?
I get that right by the way she was and
she works at CNNA. I was not aware of this
she's now at I didn't know who was doing their

(25:48):
morning show. Is this a she went rogue and was like,
this is my time to stand up. I think my
bosses are going to be impressed, and it actually backfired
on her. Or is this a above her, and she
was following orders. I think I think that in CNN
right now, and I still know some CNN producers who

(26:09):
will talk to me and double double super secret, you know,
red red file, Yeah right, you know in the vault.
I think that the two most powerful people inside CNN
right now are Jake Tapper and Anderson Cooper. I think
they probably not including like the top three executives, but
I mean in terms of the rest of the of

(26:30):
the institution. And as a new I didn't know this
woman was even on CNN, So as a new CNN employee,
she probably figured if she doesn't shut this down right
away at the fans of the debate, she's going to
get an earful from from Jake on it. And he's
he's known for giving people earfuls. That's not that's not
a new thing. He may give me an earful for

(26:50):
just discussing this, But I have no choice. He's the
debate moderator, and you know we're having an honest discussion
about something of public importance. So yeah, I mean, this
is this is the situation, This is what I see unfolding.
If you're right, then that makes total sense because she's
trying to preserve her job, but it doesn't care about
Dana Bash. Dana Bash has no power but to be

(27:11):
the defender of the CNN brand. She throws herself down.
The problem for Jake Tapper is I certainly wouldn't have
spent Monday ripping he and Dana Bash to shreds if
they had just let Caroline Levitt say whatever she wanted
on CNN. I think this backfired in a big way
and drew more attention to his If you were the
truck team, you couldn't have scripted this any better for

(27:34):
Caroline Levitt's morning hit on CNN to dominate all of
the news. So this is what I meant about the
purple hair. Campus protest or mania has to show up
at every speech. The best visuals for the best thing
you want if you're giving one of these college campus
speeches is the lunatic screaming and shrieking outside and then
you standing at the podium like you're you know, like
you're an Oxford professor being reasonable and even charming, while

(27:56):
the maniacs are shrieking outside like it's a great contract.
And in this case for CNN, this is the worst
possible situation because it wasn't even clear that she was attacking.
You know, she wasn't personally attacking the anchor. She was
discussing something that is of absolute validity, which is the
previous statements of anchors. I'm not attacking either them personally.

(28:19):
I'm attacking what is obvious and on the record, which
is that they're both Democrats who don't like Donald Trump.
So we go into this debate knowing that everybody should
go into this debate knowing that, but CNN has always
played this game of what everybody knows is not true.
We're still an objective news source. No you're not. Actually
that's a fraud. We come back. I actually think that

(28:40):
Dana Bash is even worse than Tapper because Tapper is
clearly inn a pinata journal journalist. How is Dana Bash
even allowed to be a moderator when her husband is
one of the fifty one intelligence people who signed that
document which has now been proven to be one hundred
percent false. I mean that should be one of the
questions that's asked at the debate. Biden, you used this

(29:03):
as a shield. It's now proven that the Hunter Biden
laptop is real. I almost think she's conflicted out if
she were an attorney, she would be conflicted out of
being involved in this case. I think, based on that
connection to her journalists, journalists are even less ethical than
lawyer's cliff. I know this. That's a tough spot to

(29:24):
be in, but I think unfortunately that's correct. We come back,
we'll talk a little bit about that. And also, this
Cassie Chick, Casey, Cassie, whatever the heck her name is.
On CNN, she said one of her favorite moments in
news was Ran Paul getting beaten up by his neighbor.
We've got the audio of that. So this chick is
not is not somebody that should be the paragon of

(29:44):
virtue policing what other people are saying based on her past.
We'll play that for you. In the meantime, I'm headed
to Israel soon and I'm excited for that trip. And
also I think it's going to be really enlightening for
me be able to bring some of a idea of
what's going on in Israel right now to you all

(30:05):
as I'll be doing the show live from Israel. Threat
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Speaker 2 (31:03):
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Speaker 1 (31:21):
Back in Clay, Travis Buck, Sexton Show Buck, what If
the Trump Sorry, the Biden team called and they said,
Joe Biden is prepping for the debate. He absolutely loves
Crockett coffee. Can you provide as much Crockett coffee for
free to the Biden campaign so that Joe Biden can

(31:42):
stay awake at part of his preparation. We believe you're
good Americans. Would we do it? Well, here's does Biden
deserved to drink our coffee? Is he a good enough
American to drink our coffee? You have you have to
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Whereas a patriot is is energized by Crockett coffee available

(32:08):
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That's what happens when a communist drinks our coffee. I'm
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(32:29):
We now have dcalf too, I think about to be there.
So we could send him Dcalf and not he wouldn't
even know that. By the way, the Last Crusade best
of the Indiana Jones movies, do you agree? I don't
know if you can put it ahead of Raiders. Definitely
better than Temple of Doom. And there only are three
Indiana Jones movies. The rest of them do not count.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
That's that's it's certainly the best production value one is
the last one. I think the best. I think it's
one of the great things about having kids is watching
all the old movies again and getting to see it
through their eyes and as a kid Raiders. Sorry, I
love Temple of Doom because I think I was the
perfect age when that came out in theaters, and that

(33:13):
was back in the day when a movie would come
out in the summer and stay on the entire summer.
I remember Last Crusade. I don't remember the exact release date,
but I remember you dried by the movie theater and
you would see it and it stayed on for like
three or four months. Same thing for Raiders of the
Lost Ark, Temple at Doom. You could go see them
multiple times. A lot of people did, and wasn't easy
to have a VCR back and then I think it's

(33:35):
Last Crusade. I think some people also this say Temple
of Doom. You know, they kind of they throw Temple
of Doom under the bus a little bit. It's a
great movie. It's great. It's a great popcorn movie. It
really it really holds up, you know. It's it's not
quite as good as the first or the third in
the trilogy, but it's very good on its own. I
think I think I said on this show that watching

(33:58):
it with my kids blew my mind because I didn't
realize that Temple of Doom is a prequel for Raiders
of the Lost Ark. Do you remember that, Like, I
think we had this conversation on the show. But I
bet if you missed that conversation once before, I bet
your mind is blown by me saying that because I
had no idea and it doesn't really logically add up

(34:19):
that it would have been. But yes, it was a
technically a chronological prequel, meaning most people think of it
as a sequel, but it was actually before. I do
think it's it's a fun thing too. I mean, you're
experience experiencing this with your kids. I'm sure a lot
of you out there are are experiencing this with you,
with your own children or your grandchildren even and that

(34:39):
is the great movies have already been made. They are
not making great movies anymore. So you will get to
relive the great movies of the you know, eighties, nineties,
and two thousands with I think your you know, with
future generations, because that will be considered, you know, the
same way that some people always think that like the

(35:00):
Beatles and the Rolling Stones or the greatest rock bands
of all time. You know, I think that the greatest
movies of all time will widely be considered what was
made from you know, nineteen eighty to twenty ten. I
saw yesterday and I don't remember. I don't know because
you're such a younger man than me, whether you remember this,
But Kyle Brant who shared this, I think yesterday was

(35:22):
the release date of the original Batman. Do you remember
when America just basically shut down with Batman Fever in
nineteen eighty nine, Nicholas the Jack, Nicholas Michael Keaton won
because there was the Adam West's with the tights on
Batman TV show. Oh that even, that's how popular the
movie In nineteen eighty nine was But I'm telling you,

(35:44):
when that movie came out, Jack Nicholson's playing the Joker
and you had Michael Keaton as Batman, Kim Basinger as
the attractive, you know, sort of fem fatale in that
movie via band, Remember anything, was that Vicky Vail? Vicky Vail,
that's right, that was her, that was her role. I

(36:04):
don't remember any movie, and maybe it's just my age,
but nineteen eighty nine Batman coming out in the summer,
there was so much prep that and Dick Tracy. It
felt like, remember when Dick Tracy came out like Madonna.
They tried to turn that into the same thing the
League League, but back back for that whole summer. Oh

(36:26):
so good. Crocketcoffee dot Com. If you love America, you
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