July 22, 2024 • 61 mins
Joe Biden drops out of the race. TX Gov. Greg Abbott roasts VP Kamala Harris’s work as border czar. We have the receipts - Buck loses the steak bet. The Democrats are praising Joe Biden for being PUSHED out of the race.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody. Monday edition of The Clay Travis en
Buck Sexton Show. It is a huge news day. Joe
Biden is out. You may have blogged for mister Clay Travis.
You may applaud he is the winner of a of
a stake, a very expensive, overpriced We'll get into those
details later. We actually have so much news that we
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can extend Clay's gloating over the course of the program
because we have a bunch of things that we have
to get to today. Secret Service Director up on Capitol
Hill a total mess. Not not actually giving any answers,
we have so much here, but just just to put
all this into the proper context. We had a presidential
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In terms of the news this month, how much news
there is usually the summer for political news is pretty minimal, right,
you know a lot of people. DC is a ghost
town in August, even an election year, it tends to
settle down a little bit. We have the conventions, nobody
really cares or remembers, and then you get into the
big stuff in the fall. This month has been crazy.
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We had a presidential assassination attempt against President Trump or
a presidential candidate assassination attempt, he was hit. I keep
reminding people say, wow, they almost shot President Trump. No,
they shot him, he just was okay. So that was
not this most recent weekend. The weekend before. Then, on
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this weekend, after weeks and weeks of Joe Biden his
team saying he's staying in, He's staying in, suddenly a
tweet comes out on x Elon Musk's platform, a private platform.
Mind you, isn't this so interesting? It's almost like a
Facebook post was the way we found out about this.
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Joe Biden has dropped out, has officially endorsed Kamala Harris,
and then we'll get into all of the machination around this.
And there's so much here, and I know everyone's all
very fired up, and I'm sorry for the residents of
Buck Island. We did get hit by a last second
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tsunami and there are no structures left standing, and in
fact we are now a wreckage like a scuba site
only so you can go visit us underwater. Uh. Yes,
I've always thought Atlantis, We're the new Atlantis. Yes, Clai
Clay's gonna be grinning a lot today. And you know
what earned it. We've been talking about this for two years.
There's been some evolution here as to what we thought
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would happen, respectively, what Clay thought, what I thought. This year,
I've been saying, if it's not Biden, it will be Harris.
But I've always thought, and I will stick to this,
that Biden would manage to push this all the way
through the debate was completely disastrous for him, more disastrous
than I thought it would be. So I didn't have
that data point to work with, but I figured they're
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still gonna They're still gonna be able to rally around
him enough that they think he's their best choice. Clay,
we got a million things to dive into here. The
big thing, obviously Biden out. All eyes turned to Kamala.
Fifty dollars of small donation, small dollar donors raised in
one day, they say, the biggest day of fundraising, you know,
in years for Kamala Harris. All the editorials now, the
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shaping of the narrative. I mean, they're right in this.
They're bringing in the interns to write these editorials. They're
just trying to churn out as much nonsense as they can.
Here's where I am on this, Clay. This is terrible
for the Democrats. What's going on right now?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I'm not saying that they can't pull something off, and
there's crazy last minute possibilities, but I do not see
a world in which Kamala Harris, one of the most
untalented politicians, a DEI vice president, is able to go
up against not just a strong Republican but Donald Trump
with the biggest wind at his back and the most
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fire in the belly we have ever seen. I think
that the Democrats, and this is why I didn't see
this coming. I think it's it's worse than a crime.
It's a blunder. I think what they have done is madness,
and it's because they've panicked and they went to war
with each other, and the plan was to lie the
whole time, and they got caught in the lie. What
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do you see?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I think there are two big questions that are out
there that will determine a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Of where we're going from this point.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Number one to what extent, if at all, will this
be contested. Right now, it looks like Kamala Harris is
basically going to get the nomination without think about this
buck without one person ever having voted for her to
be president in her entire political career. We've never seen
anything like this. I mean, that is truly extraordinary. Remember
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she dropped out in twenty twenty before the voting started.
Democrats overwhelmingly rejected her in the twenty twenty race, and
now she's going to get the nomination without ever having
had to run for it. Let me ask you, this
is so my first question is going to be contested.
I bet we agree on this. Do you think if
Biden had dropped out before the primaries and Kamala had run,
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do you think she would have won an open primary
as the Democrat nominee?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I do not. Do you think Kamala wins this nomination?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
No? And this is the It's almost like the super
delegates that remember they rigged the system for Hillary over
Bernie in twenty sixteen. This is, in essence a Democrat machine,
like a super delegate election. They're just deciding that this
is who the person will be. I know they're gonna say, oh, well,
at the convention, the delegates will have to Yeah, but
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they had a whole prime They just threw out fourteen
million votes for Joe Biden. Okay, yes, they just said
those these are the word defending democracy people. They just
said the fourteen million votes that Joe Biden had and
all the stuff we said about Joe Biden's fine, he's
gonna have a grade four more years and everything. They
have wiped that away. They've pretended like it never happened.
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And the other part of this, there's so many layers here, Clay,
Joe Biden is not fit to be president right now.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
If he's not well, that's my second question. That's okay,
it will will it be contested? Second one is in
the gambling markets basically have it right now, and they've
been very predictive in terms of you and me and
everybody else being able to bet. They have it at
fifty to fifty. Whether he's going to finish his term,
and my question on whether he finishes his term obviously
he could die, right and I hate to say that,
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but he put out this statement on X. It's super weird.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
We haven't seen him.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Kamala Harris just showed up at the White House. I
know supposedly he's got COVID, but that's basically a cold.
You're telling me. They couldn't wheel in a camera, they
couldn't bring in an ability to take a video of
all this for historical purpose, very strange. And that's why
let's presume that he doesn't die, which I can't believe.
We have to say that that is, he doesn't just
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die because of he's got a natural different conflict.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Second, the second question here is, and I don't know
the answer to this, does it help or hurt Kamala
to run as the incumbent? And I don't because I
can see it cutting both ways, by which I mean,
on the one hand, it makes it look like even
more of a rig job. If she's elevated, becomes the
first woman, first minority woman to be president, and gets
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to run as the incumbent, it feels like a rig
job on the other hand, which might cut against her.
On the other hand, then she's the incumbent and it
gives her more of a stamp of authority over the
next several months. I'm curious how you would see this
purely from a political perspective. Does she benefit running as
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the incumbent?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I think that they want to give the illusion because Democrats,
it's so central to their sense of their party. They're like,
we're we're all about defending democracy. They want to give
the illusion that Kamala is a choice, but Kamala's foiced
it on them. Kamala is a is. The pick is
the decision of the machine. She is not the person
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that the Democrats, the Democrat voter at any meaningful level,
has decided should be the nominee. So I think that
it's it should be untenable for Biden to stay in
office as he is. He should have to resign and
Kamala Harris should take over as the president, and that
would make the most sense. I also think that would
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I think that would benefit her in the long run
because the fact that Biden isn't resigning and is staying
in office while he clearly does not have the mental
faculties to continue to do the job, to me, is
a in essence, an insult at Kamala Harris too. Write
you said you picked this person because she's ready to
take over. You clearly have You are clearly Joe Biden
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not at your best. He has admitted that you are
not a game Joe Biden, whatever that used to mean.
So you're not gonna let Kamala Harris take over in
the situation, You're going to ride it out to the end.
I mean, just pardon hunter and get it over with, right,
I mean, like, what are we really talking about here.
He's not going to sign any real legislation. He just
wants to stay in the game longer, and I think
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try to negotiate more stuff, more goodies for the Bidens
on his way out. I am really curious and I
feel very strongly about this part of the Clay Biden
didn't want to go, and Biden wasn't going all right. Yes,
they forced him, They straight up they made him an
offer he can't refuse. And this isn't the first time.
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This was the third all out media push New York Times, everybody,
He's got to go. He's got to go, He's got
to go. The first two after the disastrous debate, Biden says,
I'm staying. Deal with it. I'm the nominee. I won
deal with it. I'm the president that was This is
not the plan, okay. The plan is not to drag
this out because time is not on the side of Biden,
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of a Kama and the Democrats right now. I mean
they're scrambling to figure out what happened next. They did something,
they presented it with something. I mean, I know they're
gonna say, oh, it was just the polls now, because
I still believe Biden. If you really look at the data,
Biden's a better candidate than Kamala against Donald Trump. And
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I know that sounds insane, but that's clearly what Biden
believed up until five minutes ago. And I think that
Donald Trump, if we have an election that is vaguely
free and fair, there's just no way that Kamala Harris
wins this election. I think they've almost seeded this whole thing.
Now they're gonna try to cheat, They're gonna kick and scream,
They're gona have a lot of money in our media.
I know all of that, but really, Kamala Harris wins
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in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada. George, absolutely not. There's no
way she wins in those states based on the numbers
that we already see for Trump. It's just not feasible
unless they cheat beyond our wildness imagination.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
My theory, Buck is and I agree with you. I
think this is desperation. But I do think that the Biden.
I mean when you watched him on Friday, the last
time we saw him try to walk the stairs and
even try to get into the presidential limo. I mean,
he legitimately looks like with every step that he was
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taking that he might die between the steps. And I
hate to say that, I'm anti death. I don't want
anybody to die. I don't feel confident that he's going
to be alive on inauguration day. I mean, I can't
believe that I'm saying that, but based on the trajectory
that we are seeing of him, I don't know that
he's got six months left to live.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Well, well, there's some there's some stories out there already
that like Biden was personal friends with his doctor, with
his official doctor, and that the doctor I'm trying to
look this up right now, that that there was maybe
some business dealings that the doctor was going to be
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involved with the bid. I mean, there's there's a lot
of dirty stuff going on here. Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
So my theory is buck that they may have gone
to him and said, hey, we've got twenty fifth Amendment
possibilities here. You can either go out and I'm sure
they'll give the Biden family a couple one hundred million
dollars for their foundation, right for their presidential library. And
I'm doing quotation marks on those because in many ways
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that's just a grift, right. The Biden family gets those jobs.
Hunter is some executive of the Biden Foundation, Jill is
some executive of the Biden Foundation, and they make seven
figure salaries to host dinners and raise money and do
all those things. I think they threatened him.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
It does.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
None of this makes sense that you would put.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
A letter on your personal letter head up on your
social accounts, which we know you don't run, and then
that you would have another post where you say that
Kamala Harris has your complete support. I mean there, and
this would not suffice as proof of life in a
hostage video like I feel like we need the President
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holding up today's copy of the newspaper to verify that
he's still alive and well, and then to have Kamala
Harris today at the White House again. I know he
supposedly has COVID, but you and I would walk into
Biden's beach house for an exclusive interview right now with
zero fear of potentially catching COVID from him, in the
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same way that I wouldn't be afraid of interviewing anybody
who had a cold. Right like this, It's not like
he's got I don't I don't even know what the
illness would have to be that you would be terrified
to be in the same room with him.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Also, the whole way that this went down, that there
was no video, there were Biden's staffers who have come
out publicly and said that they didn't know.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, most of them said they found out from the posting.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Which I mean, you've got to be kiscause there were
there were Biden's staffers. This is why for a moment
there there was a rebound in Buck Island Land prices
before before the tsunami took us all out. They were
saying on Friday, Biden is the nominee. He's staying in focused.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
They went on the Sunday morning talk shows and said
he was one hundred percent on it all in a
couple of hours before they kicked him out.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
This is what I'm saying. It was not the plan. Okay,
they got to him. They got to him. How did
they get to him? Finally, they've been trying to get
to him for a month more than that. Well, whatever
the the you know, the weeks when you add them
up would be Ever since the debate, they've certainly been
pushing to get him out entirely, and it hadn't worked
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until now. If he was just gonna go and this
was like the Democrats pulling all the strings, he would
have gone right after the debate. In fact, they wouldn't
even gotten to the debate. If this was the plan,
they would have had Kamala's the nominee and they wouldn't
have even been running Biden. This whole thing makes no sense.
They screwed up royally. Everyone needs to stuf. Assuming that
the Democrats have some genius planning and this is eight
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D chess and they're playing it out, that is not
what happened. Okay, they if they were really smart, they
would have just refused to debate, which I thought they would,
and they should have. They should have taken my advice,
so to speak, or in a sense, Clay, they should
have refused to have Biden debate until least the fall,
because then he would have been the nominee. You know,
they would have said.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
A bad June whenever the real story of this campaign
is written, and I mean the real story, not the
bs that they're all putting out there. Hopefully Trump smokes
Kamala and at some point next year all of these
real stories start being a bitter democrat.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Democrats irrect because they'll come out and tell you the truth.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
You need a beat down because then everybody will just
come out and do the whole story like they do
a lot of times with campaigns. None of it adds up.
Even the decision for June twenty seventh didn't add up
in the first places.
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Speaker 1 (17:11):
Welcome back in everybody. It is a massive day in
the news in the country, and we're trying to make
sense of all. We're joined by the Governor of Texas,
Greg Abbott, who's got a particular perspective on some of
these issues. Governor, appreciate you making the time.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
For us great to be back.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
So it seems, Governor like they have very quickly circled
around Kamala Harris as the likely Democrat nominee not official yet,
but you know who knows these days what's going to happen,
assuming it is Kamala. I recall she was assigned as
Biden's border czar for a period of time, You, as
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the governor of Texas, had a front row seat to
the czar doing her best on the border. How did
that go?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
So she gets an fins for a grade as borders are,
remember this, she cackled and laughed about being borders are,
acting as though she had no interest in it whatsoever.
And then when it was her responsibility. I can remember
interviews of her asking her if she's even yet been
to the border, and she admitted that she had not.
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I think maybe during her entire time as borders are,
she may have been down maybe close to the border
one time. The bottom line is this, she for one,
did not go down there and see personally the crisis
that she and Joe Biden created. She did not see
exactly what needed to be done to fix the border crisis.
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And you've seen the numbers, and that is not just
the more than eleven million illegal immigrants who have come
across the border, but a number of Americans who are
losing their lives, who are being sexually assaulted. Who are
victims of crime because Kamala Harris did not do her
job as the borders are and led the worst border
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crosses in the history of the United States of America?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Governor, are you as blown away as we are by
just I know the last twenty five days since the
debate on June twenty seventh have just been one cavalcade
of insanity after another. But when you saw that Joe
Biden was announcing he was not going to run via
a letter that he posted on X we still have
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not seen him, not even a photograph or video of
him since Friday. All of this is super strange. Do
you think if he can't run in twenty twenty four
that he should still be president now? And who in
the world is making decisions right now? Given that there
is a great deal of tumult as you mentioned at
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the southern border where you are right now in Texas,
but also in the Middle East in Europe, this is
a scary time. Who knows what China might decide to
do with Taiwan. Does Biden need to step down in
your mind?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I actually posted that on X last night that if
he is incapable of running, for president. He is incapable
of serving as president. But listen, you made a very
insightful point, and that is the United States of America,
because of Joe Biden's condition, because of the uncertainty about
exactly who is pulling the strings in Washington, d C.
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We are at an extremely vulnerable time globally. You've seen
the conflagrations that you know in in Iran, in Ukraine,
in China, even in North Korea, and who knows where
ever else, And now would be the time for any
of our adversaries to be able to make moves that
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would compromise the future of the United States of America.
We've been, you know, going through three and a half
years of a president who's asleep at the wheel. Now
he's absent, he's a wall in Kamala Harris's is not
up to speed on being able to address any of
those issues. And so I am very concerned about what's
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going on in the country, in our exposure to incoming threats,
not to mention the ongoing disaster at the border, where
there truly is nobody in the United States that has
any commitment to securing the border. Because these issues blend together.
You all know that there have been countless, as in
hundreds of terrorists come across the border, and those are
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the ones who are known. Listen, if you're on the
teriffs watch. So this should pay extra to the cartels
not to be caught. Think about all the TSA agents
that we have in the United States of America who
are inspecting your shoes and going over your body as
you try to get on a plane for the purported
purpose of stopping a terrorist. They don't need to go
through an airport anymore. They can just walk across the border.
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And so the United States is extraordinarily exposed to terroristic threats.
And we have an administration in Kamala Harris. The borders
are in Jobe Bide. This is absence who were exposing
us to more terroristic dangers every single day just through
our southern border.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Governor Rabbit, we're speaking of Governorrabbit of Texas. Sounds to
me like you don't think Kamala Harris is ready to lead, Sir,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Does anyone thinks she's ready to lead? I mean, she
she's done nothing but embarrassed even the Biden administration. She's
known for her cackle, but nothing else. Nobody can say
anything that she's known for it. And then think about this.
You know, you mentioned that she's the borders are I
can't remember any other task given to her. Here's the point.
She had just one job, and that one job that
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she had, she completely flunked it. And that is her resume.
And so it's going to be easy for President Trump
to make a contrast with Kamala Harris and explain to
Americans why they need to elect Donald Trump. And I
think that that will he will gain extraordinary support and
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Americans will flee from the disaster zone of Kamala Harrison.
That doesn't even include the disaster of her experience in California,
in San Francisco and the disaster zone she.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Made of that. I'm just wondering, Governor, do you think
that they're going to have to rethink some of their
policy on the Democrat side, their decision of trying to
flood Texas with money to pull off some kind of
an upset win. Because Kamala Harris is the nominee, I
can't imagine she's going to play much better in Texas
than Biden would have at the top of the ticket.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Well, my only hope in prayer is that they spend
all their money in Texas. But I think they will
be smart enough to realize that would be a complete
wasted money, and so I fully expect them to spend
zero dollars or in the state of Texas. But the
converse is true, and that is that they will come
to the state of Texas to raise money, but they
won't be spending any money here, and that's fine. Stuck
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up all the money out of the state of Texas.
Have them wasted on Kamala Harris, and that will ensure
that Ted Cruz will win his Senate but even a
higher percentage point governor.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
We've heard since January sixth that of twenty twenty one,
that Democrats are the party protecting democracy. They now, in theory,
are going to run Kamala Harris, a woman who has
never received a single vote from any person in America,
to be president of the United States. They're tossing out
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every single vote that occurred during the course of their primary.
Is your mind in an honest America would anyone arguing
that the Democrats are trying to protect a democracy have
to be shouted down by media or voters out there?
Is that argument from their quiver of arguments officially done.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Kiss over, and so they have completely demonstrated that they
have denied democracy, with the democracy being defined as a
allowing the voters to speak and have the voters actual
vote count. So, as you pointed out, there's been more
than fourteen million people who voted in the Democrat primary.
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But before we talk about Commlin in that regard, remember this,
all of the smoke filled room players have not yet spoken,
and there still remains the possibility that the presidential nominee
for the Democrats will actually not be Kamala. That could
be somebody else. Here's the point I want to make,
and that is it could very well be possible that
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the person chosen by the Democrats actually received zero votes
by any Democrat primary voter. That's the exact paradigm of
undermining democracy, undermining the voters, and saying we don't care
what the voters say, We're going to pick our hand
picked person. But let's go back to the point you
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meant about Kamala. So the Democrats were perfectly happy with
Joe Biden, and the fourteen million people who voted for
Joe Biden were perfectly happy until they realized oh wait
a second, looks like he may lose, and so we
need to undermine all the voters and say your vote
really doesn't matter here to to heck with democracy, we
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the insiders. We've got to find someone who maybe can
win regardless of who the people voted for in the primary.
So this is the as I said that, the paradigm,
the classic example of undermining democracy, undermining the voters, skip
arming them and ignoring them. And so this completely takes
that issue off of the playing board of arguments by
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the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Governor, fantastic stuff, as always, Buck, you got one more?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Uh no, no, I just want to appreciate the Governor
Abbott for coming to join us. Fantastic as always, Governor,
and thank you for keeping Texas Texas. We like we
we don't live there, but we like knowing it's there.
Just in case, Governor, I'm giving you a heads up.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I'm going to be down for the Georgia Texas game,
which may be the best game in the SEC this season.
So I'm planning on seeing you when I'm in town
for that one.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, come on bye, We'll have a good time and
look for a good Longhornt team this year. Hey, listen,
you know you not to Vanderbilt Law School at different times,
but same school. Texas played at Vanderbilt this year, if
I recall, first time in a long time they played Vanderbilt.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Well, come up to Nashville.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
We'll hang out and we'll go swing by Vanderbilt Law
School and see if they'll claim both of us.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I think they will, but they might not.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I don't think they will accept me.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Governor Greg Abbott, proud Vanderbilt Law School graduate alongside of me.
Thank you, Governor. We'll talk to you again soon. Maybe
I'll see a couple of football games this fall. Look,
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Speaker 3 (29:16):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Okay, let
me hit you with a couple of polling datas Detroit
Free Press on Sunday morning, before Biden dropped out had
Trump up seven points. They've been polling, the Detroit Free
Press has Michigan for a very long time. They said,
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that's the biggest lead in their poll that a Republican
has had in the state of Michigan since nineteen eighty eight.
Biden drops out. Oh, Kamala Harris raised so much money. Oh,
she's gonna be amazing. A group called Quadruple Polls Progress
Action Fund, a Democrat left wing polling group, just released
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their Donald Trump against Kamala Harris polls. In Pennsylvania Trump
buck fifty one to forty five, six point lead for Trump.
According to a Democrat polling group in Pennsylvania, Arizona, Trump
up fifty two to forty four, an eight point lead. Again,
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this is a Democrat polling group. Michigan. They have Trump
up two over Kamala Harris. Wisconsin, they have Trump up one.
Those are the four that they just released. Again, this
is such a left wing group.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I tried to click on the poll group and they
have me blocked on Twitter. I don't ever remember interacting.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I can't imagine that I got into an argument with
a polling group. They have me blocked on Twitter. I
can't even see their info. Apparently they don't like the
First Amendment boobs Clay so you know, well that was
with a left wing polling group, So that is out
there and squares with what you and I were saying,
which is, I don't think these numbers are going to
be very good from Kamala.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Why would they get better for Kamala Harris's that's really
the question you have to ask, what is it about
Kamala Harris? I understand that the media is just so
ruthless and dishonest, and they are still powerful unfortunately, and
they're all going to go to the mat on Kamala
is the greatest. She actually ran a great campaign in
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twenty twenty. It was out of her hands that she
got two percent of the vote. I mean, they'll say
absolutely anything. Fine, But I think that the media is
in a tough spot right now themselves because they went
along with the Joe Biden is fine thing until the debate. Yes,
they were all in on it. They were look at
Morning Joe, the best Joe Budden I've ever seen, right, like,
(31:54):
you know too much?
Speaker 4 (31:55):
That's pretty good. That's a pretty good Scarborough.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Thank you. I can I can go. I can go
full douche what I have to full douchebag. You know,
he's a bad guy, So yeah, I have to say.
You know, here we are, and I find myself just
wondering how they think any of this is going to
be better? You know, how is any of this going.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
On with you?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I'm with you, which is why, in the back of
my mind, I still feel like there may be a
rip chord moment for Kamala Harris too.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
But let's let's talk about that in a second. But
let's play.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I want to give credit to Greg on our team
who went back to try to figure out when did
we first start talking about the steak bet between Biden
and whether he would be in the race or not.
Credit to your wife Carrie, who just ducked in and said,
I have to say when when Biden dropped out? She said,
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your first reaction was, well, that's okay, Clay needed a win.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
The being super generous even as buck Island was overrun,
It's a little bit like the a little bit like
the guys who put on their tuxedos to play to
play off the Titanic, for sure. Yeah, as it went
into the water, you're trying to go out as beautifully
as you can. But which can we just mention what
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a badass thing that is to do. Can you imagine
anyone in today's era knowing that the ship was going
down and saying, let's just go play music where men
we're gonna put on tuxedos and own our fate. I
don't think maybe I'm wrong, I think that men would
be throwing women in the water. I think they would
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be commandeering the last lifeboats?
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Are you with me?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Like the idea that men would just say in this
day and age, you know what, women and children get
them on the lifeboats. I'm gonna smoke a cigar and
stand here in my jacket and take my fate like
a man. I hate to say this as a man.
Do you feel like men would be gallant in that
same way on a high I think.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
A lot of Democrats would start identifying as women as
the ship was going down.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
So there's that great meme where the bad guy in
the Titanic is this is like the lifeboat guy says, sorry, sir,
women and children only, and he says, but I'm trans
which is a which is a very funny meme. But
let's play this is Greg's research. Some of you out
there may be able to find because there's transcripts of
all the shows that we do. Maybe it occurred earlier
(34:30):
than this. This is the first we can find. This
is July twelfth, twenty twenty two, over two years ago,
and September twenty ninth, twenty twenty two discussion about whether
Biden would be the nominee.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Listen July twelfth, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I just don't see any way that Democrats I've been
referring to it as the weekend at Bernie's Part two.
I don't see any way they can drag him across
the finished line again. I think that that is going
to be a feil. I think it is inconceivable that
he could be the nominee and slowly, all.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Of a sudden, we're gonna have to throw some steak
dinner bets out there.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Clay, do you think he's going to be the nominee?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I'm not as I think if Trump announces, I think
Biden thinks he can do it.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I will put a steak dinner on the fact that
Biden will not be the nominee.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Let me think about my bet.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Yeah, think to put it.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
On the line, September twenty ninth, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Buck Sexton, We have a steak, bet, we have many
steak But I do not believe that Joe Biden is
going to run for re election in twenty twenty four,
because I think even Democrats are going to have to
acknowledge that his mental state is so deteriorated that he
doesn't have the capacity to do it. In the wake
of this viral incident yesterday, are you sticking to your
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guns that Biden is going to run?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Absolutely, you're sticking to the guns.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I'm sticking with it. I think that they they almost
take I think there are a lot of Democrats who
privately take some glee in c we can even make
this guy president. I'm just gonna tell you, man, you
you you recovered the football on your own five yard
line and ran it downfield with like zero time on
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the clock because you said that they were gonna pull
like Biden wasn't gonna run, And there was a Clay
were three weeks for the convention and he was he
was there, so they absolutely tried to run him. They
absolutely tried to do weekend at Bernie's two and it's
kind of like the end of Scooby Doo, where they
would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for
(36:34):
you dog gone kids. In this case, the kids are
the debate, which I think destroyed him and made it
much much harder him to go forward. But to be clear,
everybody two years ago I was like, oh no, they're
planning to run him. They won were planning to run him.
The entirety of the media went along with this. It
just got so bad that the very last minute they
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decided to replace him with Kamala, which is insane. Insane,
They're going to regret it.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
I agree there.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
I also think this is why I hope we get
an honest telling for the historical record. The decision to
have a debate on June twenty seventh, may we know
lawfair has blown up in their face, But that was
a little bit more unclear how it might play out.
You and I thought that it would help, but it
(37:23):
clearly has blown up in their face. There's never been
a debate on June twenty seventh. There's never been a
debate before September. If they had just waited until September
or October, Nominee and one hundred percent. So how did
that come about? Did somebody set him up? Who made
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that decision? Is how much of a debate was there?
That's I think.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I think that they really believe that he could just
pull it off for the night, because I've seen him
even in the last six months. Be that that the
The problem that they ran into was it was it
and this is all real stuff. It was late in
the day. We know it's what is its sundowning is
when you have you know, sanility, dimensia, et cetera, and
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you're that old. It was it was a late debate,
and he gave us the Biden. The Biden that they
hide and stage manage out of public view showed up
on that debate stage and I think they thought they
could count on the Biden that they present, you know, foggy,
befuddled or whatever. Because Clay here's the other part of
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it they they put it. If it was all a
setup to get him to drop out, why would Biden's
own team, who clearly want him to stay in because
they've been saying he's staying in until they look like
idiots now and they're not going to have jobs in
a few months, So why would they agree to it.
I think that that surmises or that that assumes way
(38:54):
too much for knowledge of how the debate, because Biden
could have there is a better version of Biden than
what you saw on that debate stage. The problem is, yeah,
he did have a bad day. He had a day
where you saw what he's really like most of the day.
I don't understand why. And this is first guessing. This
isn't second guessing. You can go back.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
When this happened, I said it was like a pass
fail for Biden. It didn't make sense to me that
if they were trying to drag him across the finish line,
they should have followed the Fetterman move don't debate until
super late when tons of people have already voted, right.
I mean, they could have done their get out the
vote campaign all of September, most of October, and then
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on October twentieth they trot out Biden for one debate
and then they just have two weeks to recover from it.
Maybe they were concerned that it would it feels to me, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
You think it. You really believe that it was a setup, though,
But how how do you get that past Biden's own
people who they didn't want him to look like I'm
not su sure Joe Scarborough and company didn't want Biden
to look like an idiot on that debate stage because
they were saying he was great. You know what I mean,
there's a lot of people I want to know the
full story. I think you're right that they thought.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
But the fact that they thought they needed to debate
in June is an incredible weakness of the Biden candidacy.
They needed to do.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
It if it's it's like they were in a cult
and the truth to that the cult leader was, you know,
sleeping with all the cult followers wives and spending all
the money on rolls Royce's and doing all these things.
And they were all they knew you cannot question anything,
you cannot question anything, or you were outside the cult.
And then I think it just completely blew up in
(40:38):
their faces because when it got outside of that cult
realm on TV for everyone to see, and there was
no spinning it. It was it was far too late.
But look, I said, and this is a prediction that
I got wrong, which I shouldn't be admitting this stuff now.
I thought Biden wouldn't debate him by the way that
would have been so much, so much. Yes, just say
(40:59):
he's a threat to myocracy, you know, blah blah whatever.
But Clay, I really just think, you know, I've talked
about airline disasters and other things too, but airline disasters
cascating decision making or cascating problems right where you do
a little you know, I didn't press the right button,
and then I got up from the cockpit, and then
there was you know, smoke in the something or other,
(41:20):
and I pressed the wrong thing and it just keeps
going all of a sudden, you know, two hundred people
in the side of a mountain, Right, that's how these
things go. I think the law Fair failed. The law
Fair then they got desperate because the polls started to
turn against them, and they felt like they had to
turn the polls back at least trending in their favor
going into summer to run the usual playbook. And so,
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in a sense, I think the Lawfair not only maybe
will catapult Donald Trump, has catapulted him ahead of the polls.
I think it may have ended up destroying Joe Biden's
chances at running. Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah,
because the prosecutions blew up in their faces. Numbers for
Trump were too good to be true. They had to
turn it around. They got desperate, and their desperate move
(42:05):
was having early debate and that completely backfired as well.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
And Kamala is going to backfire too. I mean, I
feel so confident, and this is why I'm sitting here.
I'm like, that's why it's going to cost me a stake.
And how could they be so dumb? There's no way.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
I mean, I know, people say, oh, look, we could
lose the House, we could lose the Senate. I take
nothing for granted. I'm sorry. If Kamala Harris beats Donald
Trump in an election and we can't find the fraud,
I don't want to hear about Oh whatever, we don't
we don't catch it red handed Republican Party, Like, what
are we even doing here, folks? What do we even
how do we even justify the existence of the GOP?
(42:43):
If Donald Trump, after taking a bullet in the ear
and raising his fist and saying fight and beating everybody
who has challenged him in all these prim Kamala Harris
wins it, at that point, we just, you know, to
start to live on.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
You really do have to ask the question Democrats can't
ever win an election. If Democrats can't I mean sorry,
if Republicans can't beat Kamala Harris, then the party is worthless.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
I'm just being honest. I mean that's the truth.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, So that's how i've and I see nothing to
change that analysis right now. Kamala Harris is a super Look,
we see reality. We knew all along, as you did too,
that Joe Biden had dementia and that this was absurd,
but Democrats kept pushing the absurdity. They are pushing absurdity again.
The absurdity is that Kamala Harris is a strong politician
(43:35):
who's going to be able to get swing state voters.
I mean, I think they're out of their minds. Let's
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Speaker 1 (45:05):
The recognition I think dawning on the Democrat Party that
now it's Kamala Harris. Good luck with that one. Kamala
Harris is going to be the Democrats, the Democrats likely nominee.
Who knows. I know somebody think it'll still be somebody else,
and it could be. And this is crazy because this
(45:28):
is definitely not according to some well rehearsed plan. This
is a mess, and I'll prove to you in part
that it is what a mess it is. But let
me start with this Van Jones over at CNN after
Biden dropped out. This was on Sunday, so they went
live a lot of shows, a lot of networks on
Sunday Sunday to get on this right away. And here's
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Van Jones on at play too.
Speaker 7 (45:53):
You just cry because this is somebody that you love,
This is somebody that you care about. This is somebody
who was there for somebody. You wouldn't be here without him,
and he had to take something from him. I don't
know anything about politics. I just know that I love
this man. I care about this man. It was painful
every day to sit up here and talk about him
like he's just a you know, some problem for the party.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
Wait till we get to the convention.
Speaker 7 (46:14):
You're gonna see people crying, standing, screaming, cheering. He may
not get a chance to talk for ten minutes. We
finally get a chance to put our arm around this guy.
He did the right thing for this country, He did
the right thing for this party. All this are going
to be in this situation someday, and I hope that
we take a moment to honor this man and to
love this man.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
I love Joe Biden.
Speaker 7 (46:31):
I appreciate what he's done, and a lot of people
are heartbroken today. Even if it's the right thing, it's
still just horrible.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
I just this makes me ill. It makes me ill
to see lies like this. You go first, and then
I'll tell you what you say. It's just funny because
we could sit here.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
I'm just telling you, and I don't want to spend
too much of your time. We treat your time as
very precious. Going through all the different Democrat clips of it,
what they're all saying is Joe did the right thing.
He put the country before himself. He did the heroic thing.
He stepped up. They dragged this old son of a gun,
(47:09):
kicking and screaming from this election. They've been trying to
pry his fingers off the levers of power for a
month since that debate, and again and again he has
said no. Again and again he has said I'm staying.
Clay mentioned this before. I thought this is worth noting. Clay.
This is co chair of the Biden campaign, Cedric Richmond
(47:32):
on CBS. You said this on Sunday, CBS faced the
nation three hours before he dropped out Play nine. Has
Joe Biden lost control of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 8 (47:46):
No, he's not, and he's hurt those concerns, And I
want to be crystal clear. He's made a decision, and
that decision is to accept the nomination and run for reelection.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Win reelection.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Three hours, three hours hours before. Yeah, let me just
say this. Those of us who are sports fans have
seen this story so many times.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
The coach is there, he's never leaving.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
The athletic director has faith in him, the recruiting class
is going great, and then a couple hours later he
gets fired and everybody immediately heaps dirt on him. Let
me say this, I told you this would happen. They're
gonna try to turn Joe Biden into George Washington. They're
gonna say never have we seen a more selfless leader.
(48:36):
He acknowledged that the country is more important than him. Look,
those are all lies, you and I and everyone out
there listening. We played you cuts from twenty twenty two.
But we've been saying four years that he was not
up to the physical and mental capacity of being president
right now, much less to run for four more years.
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If he truly cared about the country, he would have
im out and said, I'm not going to stand for reelection.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
I'm going to allow an open.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Transparent primary where every Democrat can put their hat in
the ring, and we're going to let everybody else fight
it out. I'm going to try to be the best
president that I can for the remainder of my tenure
in office. That's what a truly selfless leader who acknowledged
his own failings would have done. That's what they hinted
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Biden would do from the moment he announced he was
running in twenty twenty was that he was going to
be a bridge to the next generation of leaders. What
happened was the red wave didn't occur like we expected
in November of twenty twenty two. I got that one
one hundred percent wrong. A lot of other people did too,
but I own it. I thought we were going to
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see a red tsunami.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
We did not.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
Biden took that result as evidence that people liked him
being president and decided that he was going to run again.
If he had stepped out. I think this is important,
tu Buck. Democrats would have never picked Kamala Harris. She
would not have won. I really believe that she would
not have won the nomination to be their candidate in
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twenty twenty four. Somebody else. I don't know if it
would have been Gavin Newsommer, JB. Pritzker, who knows. Maybe
Elizabeth Warren er Bernie Sanders would have freaking thrown their
hats in the ring. I do not believe Kamala Harris
would have been the choice because she's not a good candidate.
She's not a likable person. And I just come back,
maybe I'm wrong on this. I would love to hear
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from people out there listening. I really think the fact
that she has no kids of her own and that
she began her career as the mistress of a powerful man.
I think, even though they won't mention it, democrats feel
a little distasteful about her entire career. I think you
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also then lay her on top of it the fact
that she hasn't been a good politician, and that she
reminds a lot of people of the dei head of
whatever company you're in, the person who's walking around saying,
because of racism, we have to x or y, and
everybody out there in the back of their mind is thinking,
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the only reason you have your job is because of racism.
Speaker 4 (51:19):
You have played racism to such an extent.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
You played that fiddle so well that you have allowed
yourself to be highly paid despite having no actual talent yourself.
Where does she come from buck California, which is probably
the most representatively embracing of cosmetic diversity without actual talent
of any state in America. Kamala looks like what Californians
(51:48):
think their leader should look like. Her actual job performance
does not support her continued advancement. She is the president
that the creatives at Netflix would put in the next
series they write. You know about Tom Klay's exactly right
or something she's did that Kamala Harris is the president
(52:08):
that liberals, uh, you know, fantasize about having running everything.
The problem is all the things that you laid out,
or the problems are the things that.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
You've laid out.
Speaker 4 (52:20):
And and I.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Think that also you can tell there's something a little
bit pathetic about the way the media is going to
now act like they have loved her all along. She's great,
she's I mean, they'll they'll say absolutely anything. They have
no exhibit a morning Joe Joe Scarborough himself saying two
months ago that Joe, I mean that Joe Biden is
(52:41):
the sharpest he's ever been. I mean, you can't say
that on TV and not think that everybody believes you're
a lying fool. Mika Brzhinsky, though, Clay, and this is
I feel like she was. I'm not saying this was
directed at you by Mika.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
But maybe it was.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Mika Razinski very very uh annoyed at all this hate
campaign against Harris by the mispronouncing of her name.
Speaker 9 (53:07):
This is ten And I've heard from inside Republican circles
and right wing media that the hate campaign against Kamala
Harris has begun. You'll notice they purposefully pronounce her name wrong.
They say Kamala. They do it all the time. It
is on purpose. But the talk is to start that
hate campaign and get it going and start it churning.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
Well, can I just tell you she says this? They
say Kamala. I was told I was told by a
senior Democrat, black political strategist in the Biden White House
at one point that that is how you pronounce her name.
So someone's gonna have to Kamala. Well, what's what's what's
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wrong with Kamala?
Speaker 2 (53:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
I don't I don't care what her name is or
how it's pronounced. She's done a crap job. And this
is why I come back to the idea that she
is good. I can't think other than being black and
a woman, which is why I think they're gonna say
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it's racist and sexist to criticize her.
Speaker 4 (54:18):
At all, which you're already starting to hear.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
She's got to run on everything.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
That Joe Biden did, except she's a way less likable
version of Biden. Tell me how that's a winning campaign.
She's the borders. Are you heard us talk with the
Greg Abbotten Hour one, she is incompetent buck. I was
just reading during the break here She's fired almost to
(54:44):
all of her staff because evidently she's awful to work for.
One thing at least you can say about Joe Biden
is his staffers tend to last a long time. Now,
that doesn't mean he's a great guy, but you would
probably agree just from what we see in media. When
somebody is constantly having to fire the people that work
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with them or around them, it's unlikely that every single
person you hire is a disaster. And if it is
that case, then that's on you. But I'm talking about
close personal associate numbers.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Yeah, I got the numbers for you on Kamala Harris.
Of forty seven Harris staffers that were working for her
in the first year of the presidency, only five still
work for her. Okay, from forty seven to five.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
Yeah, that is if you're a really likable person, that's
almost impossible to do. I'm talking about staffers. Now. Look,
the biggest criticism we've had of Trump is that he
hired a lot of people that weren't good enough at
their jobs in his first term. I think his hiring
will be a lot better in the second term. How
many people have quit Clay and Buck in the three
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years that we've been on this show. Have we lost you?
Guys can text me in there. I think every single
person has stayed on. Maybe one or two have left
for bigger, better jobs. I'm trying to think through right now.
For Rush, many of the staff that's with us now
was also with Rush. This is a high stress high and.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
Twenty john plus years by the way, long time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
So if you are saying I'm saying this on Rush's
behalf too, but also ours. If you are an awful
person to work for, people want to dive out of
working for you because there's lots of other jobs to get.
Kamala has performed poorly, but also the same thing happened
on her campaign. She does not seem to be a
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very likable person to work for either, and it also
ties into it ties into some of the other narratives here.
It rings it's true because I would credit the person.
I forget who it is, but there's this line out
there that it's pretty obvious.
Speaker 1 (57:08):
I think we've said similar things that Kamala is always
the person giving a book report on a book she
didn't read. You know, that she's just used to being
pushed forward and you know, given the high five and
given the promotion and told she's doing a great job
when objectively that is not true, and she's gotten all
the way to the Vice president really vice presidency. On
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that issue, Kamala with her staffers, the problem that's always
noted is that she takes it out on staffers when
she's ill prepared, That she takes it out on staffers
when she goes into a meeting and doesn't know anything. Basically,
Kamala doesn't do her homework, and then she takes it
out on people making you know, forty to fifty grand
(57:49):
a year as her you know whatever staffer for the
Vice President's office. I totally see that this doesn't surprise
me at all. I would also add this, Kamala's got
triple privilege. She's black, she's a woman. She's also pretty now.
Speaker 3 (58:07):
I know she's almost sixty now, but she got her
start as the side chick of Willie Brown. The three
most powerful privileges out there, pretty privilege is number one,
I swear, and I know there's people out there that
are gonna get mad at me about this. The number
one thing you can get away with. If you're a
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good looking woman, the normal rules of life don't apply
to you. Kamala is a good looking woman. She's also
layered it in California, a dei obsessed place with being
a minority and being a woman. She hasn't been held
to the same standard that most people in work would.
(58:52):
I'm telling you that's why she has got I think
buck that's why she's gotten away with not doing her
homework because early on, pretty privilege covers up a lot.
There's a lot of men out there that will forgive anything.
Some of you out there have been married for twenty
or thirty years to women that you never even would
have ever remotely been.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
With if they weren't pretty. You know it.
Speaker 3 (59:15):
The women know it too. I'm just telling you Kamala
is among the most privileged people in this country, and
a lot of times with privilege comes entitlement, which means
you don't do your homework. That's the reality, and I
think that's kind of the epitome of her job performance
so far, and I think people feel it, even Democrats
(59:37):
who didn't like her.
Speaker 1 (59:38):
I'm just I'm telling everybody, I was even with all
the things we've seen I maintained a level of concern
that Biden would somehow be able to with all the
things they do, pull it out against Trump. In the end,
I've been concerned. I didn't say it was likely, but
I was. I can't even find I can't find concern
right now with Kamala on that issue. I just think
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Welcome in everybody. Monday edition of The Clay Travis en
Buck Sexton Show. It is a huge news day. Joe
Biden is out. You may have blogged for mister Clay Travis.
You may applaud he is the winner of a of
a stake, a very expensive, overpriced We'll get into those
details later. We actually have so much news that we
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can extend Clay's gloating over the course of the program
because we have a bunch of things that we have
to get to today. Secret Service Director up on Capitol
Hill a total mess. Not not actually giving any answers,
we have so much here, but just just to put
all this into the proper context. We had a presidential
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In terms of the news this month, how much news
there is usually the summer for political news is pretty minimal, right,
you know a lot of people. DC is a ghost
town in August, even an election year, it tends to
settle down a little bit. We have the conventions, nobody
really cares or remembers, and then you get into the
big stuff in the fall. This month has been crazy.
(01:06):
We had a presidential assassination attempt against President Trump or
a presidential candidate assassination attempt, he was hit. I keep
reminding people say, wow, they almost shot President Trump. No,
they shot him, he just was okay. So that was
not this most recent weekend. The weekend before. Then, on
(01:27):
this weekend, after weeks and weeks of Joe Biden his
team saying he's staying in, He's staying in, suddenly a
tweet comes out on x Elon Musk's platform, a private platform.
Mind you, isn't this so interesting? It's almost like a
Facebook post was the way we found out about this.
(01:48):
Joe Biden has dropped out, has officially endorsed Kamala Harris,
and then we'll get into all of the machination around this.
And there's so much here, and I know everyone's all
very fired up, and I'm sorry for the residents of
Buck Island. We did get hit by a last second
(02:08):
tsunami and there are no structures left standing, and in
fact we are now a wreckage like a scuba site
only so you can go visit us underwater. Uh. Yes,
I've always thought Atlantis, We're the new Atlantis. Yes, Clai
Clay's gonna be grinning a lot today. And you know
what earned it. We've been talking about this for two years.
There's been some evolution here as to what we thought
(02:29):
would happen, respectively, what Clay thought, what I thought. This year,
I've been saying, if it's not Biden, it will be Harris.
But I've always thought, and I will stick to this,
that Biden would manage to push this all the way
through the debate was completely disastrous for him, more disastrous
than I thought it would be. So I didn't have
that data point to work with, but I figured they're
(02:49):
still gonna They're still gonna be able to rally around
him enough that they think he's their best choice. Clay,
we got a million things to dive into here. The
big thing, obviously Biden out. All eyes turned to Kamala.
Fifty dollars of small donation, small dollar donors raised in
one day, they say, the biggest day of fundraising, you know,
in years for Kamala Harris. All the editorials now, the
(03:11):
shaping of the narrative. I mean, they're right in this.
They're bringing in the interns to write these editorials. They're
just trying to churn out as much nonsense as they can.
Here's where I am on this, Clay. This is terrible
for the Democrats. What's going on right now?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I'm not saying that they can't pull something off, and
there's crazy last minute possibilities, but I do not see
a world in which Kamala Harris, one of the most
untalented politicians, a DEI vice president, is able to go
up against not just a strong Republican but Donald Trump
with the biggest wind at his back and the most
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fire in the belly we have ever seen. I think
that the Democrats, and this is why I didn't see
this coming. I think it's it's worse than a crime.
It's a blunder. I think what they have done is madness,
and it's because they've panicked and they went to war
with each other, and the plan was to lie the
whole time, and they got caught in the lie. What
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do you see?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I think there are two big questions that are out
there that will determine a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Of where we're going from this point.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Number one to what extent, if at all, will this
be contested. Right now, it looks like Kamala Harris is
basically going to get the nomination without think about this
buck without one person ever having voted for her to
be president in her entire political career. We've never seen
anything like this. I mean, that is truly extraordinary. Remember
(04:43):
she dropped out in twenty twenty before the voting started.
Democrats overwhelmingly rejected her in the twenty twenty race, and
now she's going to get the nomination without ever having
had to run for it. Let me ask you, this
is so my first question is going to be contested.
I bet we agree on this. Do you think if
Biden had dropped out before the primaries and Kamala had run,
(05:07):
do you think she would have won an open primary
as the Democrat nominee?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I do not. Do you think Kamala wins this nomination?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
No? And this is the It's almost like the super
delegates that remember they rigged the system for Hillary over
Bernie in twenty sixteen. This is, in essence a Democrat machine,
like a super delegate election. They're just deciding that this
is who the person will be. I know they're gonna say, oh, well,
at the convention, the delegates will have to Yeah, but
(05:39):
they had a whole prime They just threw out fourteen
million votes for Joe Biden. Okay, yes, they just said
those these are the word defending democracy people. They just
said the fourteen million votes that Joe Biden had and
all the stuff we said about Joe Biden's fine, he's
gonna have a grade four more years and everything. They
have wiped that away. They've pretended like it never happened.
(06:02):
And the other part of this, there's so many layers here, Clay,
Joe Biden is not fit to be president right now.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
If he's not well, that's my second question. That's okay,
it will will it be contested? Second one is in
the gambling markets basically have it right now, and they've
been very predictive in terms of you and me and
everybody else being able to bet. They have it at
fifty to fifty. Whether he's going to finish his term,
and my question on whether he finishes his term obviously
he could die, right and I hate to say that,
(06:29):
but he put out this statement on X. It's super weird.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
We haven't seen him.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Kamala Harris just showed up at the White House. I
know supposedly he's got COVID, but that's basically a cold.
You're telling me. They couldn't wheel in a camera, they
couldn't bring in an ability to take a video of
all this for historical purpose, very strange. And that's why
let's presume that he doesn't die, which I can't believe.
We have to say that that is, he doesn't just
(06:55):
die because of he's got a natural different conflict.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Second, the second question here is, and I don't know
the answer to this, does it help or hurt Kamala
to run as the incumbent? And I don't because I
can see it cutting both ways, by which I mean,
on the one hand, it makes it look like even
more of a rig job. If she's elevated, becomes the
first woman, first minority woman to be president, and gets
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to run as the incumbent, it feels like a rig
job on the other hand, which might cut against her.
On the other hand, then she's the incumbent and it
gives her more of a stamp of authority over the
next several months. I'm curious how you would see this
purely from a political perspective. Does she benefit running as
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the incumbent?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I think that they want to give the illusion because Democrats,
it's so central to their sense of their party. They're like,
we're we're all about defending democracy. They want to give
the illusion that Kamala is a choice, but Kamala's foiced
it on them. Kamala is a is. The pick is
the decision of the machine. She is not the person
(08:06):
that the Democrats, the Democrat voter at any meaningful level,
has decided should be the nominee. So I think that
it's it should be untenable for Biden to stay in
office as he is. He should have to resign and
Kamala Harris should take over as the president, and that
would make the most sense. I also think that would
(08:27):
I think that would benefit her in the long run
because the fact that Biden isn't resigning and is staying
in office while he clearly does not have the mental
faculties to continue to do the job, to me, is
a in essence, an insult at Kamala Harris too. Write
you said you picked this person because she's ready to
take over. You clearly have You are clearly Joe Biden
(08:50):
not at your best. He has admitted that you are
not a game Joe Biden, whatever that used to mean.
So you're not gonna let Kamala Harris take over in
the situation, You're going to ride it out to the end.
I mean, just pardon hunter and get it over with, right,
I mean, like, what are we really talking about here.
He's not going to sign any real legislation. He just
wants to stay in the game longer, and I think
(09:11):
try to negotiate more stuff, more goodies for the Bidens
on his way out. I am really curious and I
feel very strongly about this part of the Clay Biden
didn't want to go, and Biden wasn't going all right. Yes,
they forced him, They straight up they made him an
offer he can't refuse. And this isn't the first time.
(09:31):
This was the third all out media push New York Times, everybody,
He's got to go. He's got to go, He's got
to go. The first two after the disastrous debate, Biden says,
I'm staying. Deal with it. I'm the nominee. I won
deal with it. I'm the president that was This is
not the plan, okay. The plan is not to drag
this out because time is not on the side of Biden,
(09:55):
of a Kama and the Democrats right now. I mean
they're scrambling to figure out what happened next. They did something,
they presented it with something. I mean, I know they're
gonna say, oh, it was just the polls now, because
I still believe Biden. If you really look at the data,
Biden's a better candidate than Kamala against Donald Trump. And
(10:15):
I know that sounds insane, but that's clearly what Biden
believed up until five minutes ago. And I think that
Donald Trump, if we have an election that is vaguely
free and fair, there's just no way that Kamala Harris
wins this election. I think they've almost seeded this whole thing.
Now they're gonna try to cheat, They're gonna kick and scream,
They're gona have a lot of money in our media.
I know all of that, but really, Kamala Harris wins
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in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada. George, absolutely not. There's no
way she wins in those states based on the numbers
that we already see for Trump. It's just not feasible
unless they cheat beyond our wildness imagination.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
My theory, Buck is and I agree with you. I
think this is desperation. But I do think that the Biden.
I mean when you watched him on Friday, the last
time we saw him try to walk the stairs and
even try to get into the presidential limo. I mean,
he legitimately looks like with every step that he was
(11:14):
taking that he might die between the steps. And I
hate to say that, I'm anti death. I don't want
anybody to die. I don't feel confident that he's going
to be alive on inauguration day. I mean, I can't
believe that I'm saying that, but based on the trajectory
that we are seeing of him, I don't know that
he's got six months left to live.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Well, well, there's some there's some stories out there already
that like Biden was personal friends with his doctor, with
his official doctor, and that the doctor I'm trying to
look this up right now, that that there was maybe
some business dealings that the doctor was going to be
(11:55):
involved with the bid. I mean, there's there's a lot
of dirty stuff going on here. Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
So my theory is buck that they may have gone
to him and said, hey, we've got twenty fifth Amendment
possibilities here. You can either go out and I'm sure
they'll give the Biden family a couple one hundred million
dollars for their foundation, right for their presidential library. And
I'm doing quotation marks on those because in many ways
(12:23):
that's just a grift, right. The Biden family gets those jobs.
Hunter is some executive of the Biden Foundation, Jill is
some executive of the Biden Foundation, and they make seven
figure salaries to host dinners and raise money and do
all those things. I think they threatened him.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
It does.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
None of this makes sense that you would put.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
A letter on your personal letter head up on your
social accounts, which we know you don't run, and then
that you would have another post where you say that
Kamala Harris has your complete support. I mean there, and
this would not suffice as proof of life in a
hostage video like I feel like we need the President
(13:06):
holding up today's copy of the newspaper to verify that
he's still alive and well, and then to have Kamala
Harris today at the White House again. I know he
supposedly has COVID, but you and I would walk into
Biden's beach house for an exclusive interview right now with
zero fear of potentially catching COVID from him, in the
(13:29):
same way that I wouldn't be afraid of interviewing anybody
who had a cold. Right like this, It's not like
he's got I don't I don't even know what the
illness would have to be that you would be terrified
to be in the same room with him.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Also, the whole way that this went down, that there
was no video, there were Biden's staffers who have come
out publicly and said that they didn't know.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, most of them said they found out from the posting.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Which I mean, you've got to be kiscause there were
there were Biden's staffers. This is why for a moment
there there was a rebound in Buck Island Land prices
before before the tsunami took us all out. They were
saying on Friday, Biden is the nominee. He's staying in focused.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
They went on the Sunday morning talk shows and said
he was one hundred percent on it all in a
couple of hours before they kicked him out.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
This is what I'm saying. It was not the plan. Okay,
they got to him. They got to him. How did
they get to him? Finally, they've been trying to get
to him for a month more than that. Well, whatever
the the you know, the weeks when you add them
up would be Ever since the debate, they've certainly been
pushing to get him out entirely, and it hadn't worked
(14:42):
until now. If he was just gonna go and this
was like the Democrats pulling all the strings, he would
have gone right after the debate. In fact, they wouldn't
even gotten to the debate. If this was the plan,
they would have had Kamala's the nominee and they wouldn't
have even been running Biden. This whole thing makes no sense.
They screwed up royally. Everyone needs to stuf. Assuming that
the Democrats have some genius planning and this is eight
(15:03):
D chess and they're playing it out, that is not
what happened. Okay, they if they were really smart, they
would have just refused to debate, which I thought they would,
and they should have. They should have taken my advice,
so to speak, or in a sense, Clay, they should
have refused to have Biden debate until least the fall,
because then he would have been the nominee. You know,
they would have said.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
A bad June whenever the real story of this campaign
is written, and I mean the real story, not the
bs that they're all putting out there. Hopefully Trump smokes
Kamala and at some point next year all of these
real stories start being a bitter democrat.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Democrats irrect because they'll come out and tell you the truth.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
That's right.
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You need a beat down because then everybody will just
come out and do the whole story like they do
a lot of times with campaigns. None of it adds up.
Even the decision for June twenty seventh didn't add up
in the first places.
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Speaker 1 (17:11):
Welcome back in everybody. It is a massive day in
the news in the country, and we're trying to make
sense of all. We're joined by the Governor of Texas,
Greg Abbott, who's got a particular perspective on some of
these issues. Governor, appreciate you making the time.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
For us great to be back.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
So it seems, Governor like they have very quickly circled
around Kamala Harris as the likely Democrat nominee not official yet,
but you know who knows these days what's going to happen,
assuming it is Kamala. I recall she was assigned as
Biden's border czar for a period of time, You, as
(17:50):
the governor of Texas, had a front row seat to
the czar doing her best on the border. How did
that go?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
So she gets an fins for a grade as borders are,
remember this, she cackled and laughed about being borders are,
acting as though she had no interest in it whatsoever.
And then when it was her responsibility. I can remember
interviews of her asking her if she's even yet been
to the border, and she admitted that she had not.
(18:19):
I think maybe during her entire time as borders are,
she may have been down maybe close to the border
one time. The bottom line is this, she for one,
did not go down there and see personally the crisis
that she and Joe Biden created. She did not see
exactly what needed to be done to fix the border crisis.
(18:40):
And you've seen the numbers, and that is not just
the more than eleven million illegal immigrants who have come
across the border, but a number of Americans who are
losing their lives, who are being sexually assaulted. Who are
victims of crime because Kamala Harris did not do her
job as the borders are and led the worst border
(19:01):
crosses in the history of the United States of America?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Governor, are you as blown away as we are by
just I know the last twenty five days since the
debate on June twenty seventh have just been one cavalcade
of insanity after another. But when you saw that Joe
Biden was announcing he was not going to run via
a letter that he posted on X we still have
(19:26):
not seen him, not even a photograph or video of
him since Friday. All of this is super strange. Do
you think if he can't run in twenty twenty four
that he should still be president now? And who in
the world is making decisions right now? Given that there
is a great deal of tumult as you mentioned at
(19:46):
the southern border where you are right now in Texas,
but also in the Middle East in Europe, this is
a scary time. Who knows what China might decide to
do with Taiwan. Does Biden need to step down in
your mind?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I actually posted that on X last night that if
he is incapable of running, for president. He is incapable
of serving as president. But listen, you made a very
insightful point, and that is the United States of America,
because of Joe Biden's condition, because of the uncertainty about
exactly who is pulling the strings in Washington, d C.
(20:23):
We are at an extremely vulnerable time globally. You've seen
the conflagrations that you know in in Iran, in Ukraine,
in China, even in North Korea, and who knows where
ever else, And now would be the time for any
of our adversaries to be able to make moves that
(20:44):
would compromise the future of the United States of America.
We've been, you know, going through three and a half
years of a president who's asleep at the wheel. Now
he's absent, he's a wall in Kamala Harris's is not
up to speed on being able to address any of
those issues. And so I am very concerned about what's
(21:04):
going on in the country, in our exposure to incoming threats,
not to mention the ongoing disaster at the border, where
there truly is nobody in the United States that has
any commitment to securing the border. Because these issues blend together.
You all know that there have been countless, as in
hundreds of terrorists come across the border, and those are
(21:27):
the ones who are known. Listen, if you're on the
teriffs watch. So this should pay extra to the cartels
not to be caught. Think about all the TSA agents
that we have in the United States of America who
are inspecting your shoes and going over your body as
you try to get on a plane for the purported
purpose of stopping a terrorist. They don't need to go
through an airport anymore. They can just walk across the border.
(21:50):
And so the United States is extraordinarily exposed to terroristic threats.
And we have an administration in Kamala Harris. The borders
are in Jobe Bide. This is absence who were exposing
us to more terroristic dangers every single day just through
our southern border.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Governor Rabbit, we're speaking of Governorrabbit of Texas. Sounds to
me like you don't think Kamala Harris is ready to lead, Sir,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Does anyone thinks she's ready to lead? I mean, she
she's done nothing but embarrassed even the Biden administration. She's
known for her cackle, but nothing else. Nobody can say
anything that she's known for it. And then think about this.
You know, you mentioned that she's the borders are I
can't remember any other task given to her. Here's the point.
She had just one job, and that one job that
(22:38):
she had, she completely flunked it. And that is her resume.
And so it's going to be easy for President Trump
to make a contrast with Kamala Harris and explain to
Americans why they need to elect Donald Trump. And I
think that that will he will gain extraordinary support and
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Americans will flee from the disaster zone of Kamala Harrison.
That doesn't even include the disaster of her experience in California,
in San Francisco and the disaster zone she.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Made of that. I'm just wondering, Governor, do you think
that they're going to have to rethink some of their
policy on the Democrat side, their decision of trying to
flood Texas with money to pull off some kind of
an upset win. Because Kamala Harris is the nominee, I
can't imagine she's going to play much better in Texas
than Biden would have at the top of the ticket.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Well, my only hope in prayer is that they spend
all their money in Texas. But I think they will
be smart enough to realize that would be a complete
wasted money, and so I fully expect them to spend
zero dollars or in the state of Texas. But the
converse is true, and that is that they will come
to the state of Texas to raise money, but they
won't be spending any money here, and that's fine. Stuck
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up all the money out of the state of Texas.
Have them wasted on Kamala Harris, and that will ensure
that Ted Cruz will win his Senate but even a
higher percentage point governor.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
We've heard since January sixth that of twenty twenty one,
that Democrats are the party protecting democracy. They now, in theory,
are going to run Kamala Harris, a woman who has
never received a single vote from any person in America,
to be president of the United States. They're tossing out
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every single vote that occurred during the course of their primary.
Is your mind in an honest America would anyone arguing
that the Democrats are trying to protect a democracy have
to be shouted down by media or voters out there?
Is that argument from their quiver of arguments officially done.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Kiss over, and so they have completely demonstrated that they
have denied democracy, with the democracy being defined as a
allowing the voters to speak and have the voters actual
vote count. So, as you pointed out, there's been more
than fourteen million people who voted in the Democrat primary.
(25:12):
But before we talk about Commlin in that regard, remember this,
all of the smoke filled room players have not yet spoken,
and there still remains the possibility that the presidential nominee
for the Democrats will actually not be Kamala. That could
be somebody else. Here's the point I want to make,
and that is it could very well be possible that
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the person chosen by the Democrats actually received zero votes
by any Democrat primary voter. That's the exact paradigm of
undermining democracy, undermining the voters, and saying we don't care
what the voters say, We're going to pick our hand
picked person. But let's go back to the point you
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meant about Kamala. So the Democrats were perfectly happy with
Joe Biden, and the fourteen million people who voted for
Joe Biden were perfectly happy until they realized oh wait
a second, looks like he may lose, and so we
need to undermine all the voters and say your vote
really doesn't matter here to to heck with democracy, we
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the insiders. We've got to find someone who maybe can
win regardless of who the people voted for in the primary.
So this is the as I said that, the paradigm,
the classic example of undermining democracy, undermining the voters, skip
arming them and ignoring them. And so this completely takes
that issue off of the playing board of arguments by
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the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Governor, fantastic stuff, as always, Buck, you got one more?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Uh no, no, I just want to appreciate the Governor
Abbott for coming to join us. Fantastic as always, Governor,
and thank you for keeping Texas Texas. We like we
we don't live there, but we like knowing it's there.
Just in case, Governor, I'm giving you a heads up.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I'm going to be down for the Georgia Texas game,
which may be the best game in the SEC this season.
So I'm planning on seeing you when I'm in town
for that one.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, come on bye, We'll have a good time and
look for a good Longhornt team this year. Hey, listen,
you know you not to Vanderbilt Law School at different times,
but same school. Texas played at Vanderbilt this year, if
I recall, first time in a long time they played Vanderbilt.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Well, come up to Nashville.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
We'll hang out and we'll go swing by Vanderbilt Law
School and see if they'll claim both of us.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I think they will, but they might not.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I don't think they will accept me.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Governor Greg Abbott, proud Vanderbilt Law School graduate alongside of me.
Thank you, Governor. We'll talk to you again soon. Maybe
I'll see a couple of football games this fall. Look,
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Speaker 6 (29:03):
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Speaker 3 (29:16):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Okay, let
me hit you with a couple of polling datas Detroit
Free Press on Sunday morning, before Biden dropped out had
Trump up seven points. They've been polling, the Detroit Free
Press has Michigan for a very long time. They said,
(29:37):
that's the biggest lead in their poll that a Republican
has had in the state of Michigan since nineteen eighty eight.
Biden drops out. Oh, Kamala Harris raised so much money. Oh,
she's gonna be amazing. A group called Quadruple Polls Progress
Action Fund, a Democrat left wing polling group, just released
(30:03):
their Donald Trump against Kamala Harris polls. In Pennsylvania Trump
buck fifty one to forty five, six point lead for Trump.
According to a Democrat polling group in Pennsylvania, Arizona, Trump
up fifty two to forty four, an eight point lead. Again,
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this is a Democrat polling group. Michigan. They have Trump
up two over Kamala Harris. Wisconsin, they have Trump up one.
Those are the four that they just released. Again, this
is such a left wing group.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I tried to click on the poll group and they
have me blocked on Twitter. I don't ever remember interacting.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I can't imagine that I got into an argument with
a polling group. They have me blocked on Twitter. I
can't even see their info. Apparently they don't like the
First Amendment boobs Clay so you know, well that was
with a left wing polling group, So that is out
there and squares with what you and I were saying,
which is, I don't think these numbers are going to
be very good from Kamala.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Why would they get better for Kamala Harris's that's really
the question you have to ask, what is it about
Kamala Harris? I understand that the media is just so
ruthless and dishonest, and they are still powerful unfortunately, and
they're all going to go to the mat on Kamala
is the greatest. She actually ran a great campaign in
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twenty twenty. It was out of her hands that she
got two percent of the vote. I mean, they'll say
absolutely anything. Fine, But I think that the media is
in a tough spot right now themselves because they went
along with the Joe Biden is fine thing until the debate. Yes,
they were all in on it. They were look at
Morning Joe, the best Joe Budden I've ever seen, right, like,
(31:54):
you know too much?
Speaker 4 (31:55):
That's pretty good. That's a pretty good Scarborough.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Thank you. I can I can go. I can go
full douche what I have to full douchebag. You know,
he's a bad guy, So yeah, I have to say.
You know, here we are, and I find myself just
wondering how they think any of this is going to
be better? You know, how is any of this going.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
On with you?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I'm with you, which is why, in the back of
my mind, I still feel like there may be a
rip chord moment for Kamala Harris too.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
But let's let's talk about that in a second. But
let's play.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I want to give credit to Greg on our team
who went back to try to figure out when did
we first start talking about the steak bet between Biden
and whether he would be in the race or not.
Credit to your wife Carrie, who just ducked in and said,
I have to say when when Biden dropped out? She said,
(32:51):
your first reaction was, well, that's okay, Clay needed a win.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
The being super generous even as buck Island was overrun,
It's a little bit like the a little bit like
the guys who put on their tuxedos to play to
play off the Titanic, for sure. Yeah, as it went
into the water, you're trying to go out as beautifully
as you can. But which can we just mention what
(33:18):
a badass thing that is to do. Can you imagine
anyone in today's era knowing that the ship was going
down and saying, let's just go play music where men
we're gonna put on tuxedos and own our fate. I
don't think maybe I'm wrong, I think that men would
be throwing women in the water. I think they would
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be commandeering the last lifeboats?
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Are you with me?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Like the idea that men would just say in this
day and age, you know what, women and children get
them on the lifeboats. I'm gonna smoke a cigar and
stand here in my jacket and take my fate like
a man. I hate to say this as a man.
Do you feel like men would be gallant in that
same way on a high I think.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
A lot of Democrats would start identifying as women as
the ship was going down.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
So there's that great meme where the bad guy in
the Titanic is this is like the lifeboat guy says, sorry, sir,
women and children only, and he says, but I'm trans
which is a which is a very funny meme. But
let's play this is Greg's research. Some of you out
there may be able to find because there's transcripts of
all the shows that we do. Maybe it occurred earlier
(34:30):
than this. This is the first we can find. This
is July twelfth, twenty twenty two, over two years ago,
and September twenty ninth, twenty twenty two discussion about whether
Biden would be the nominee.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Listen July twelfth, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I just don't see any way that Democrats I've been
referring to it as the weekend at Bernie's Part two.
I don't see any way they can drag him across
the finished line again. I think that that is going
to be a feil. I think it is inconceivable that
he could be the nominee and slowly, all.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Of a sudden, we're gonna have to throw some steak
dinner bets out there.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Clay, do you think he's going to be the nominee?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I'm not as I think if Trump announces, I think
Biden thinks he can do it.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I will put a steak dinner on the fact that
Biden will not be the nominee.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Let me think about my bet.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Yeah, think to put it.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
On the line, September twenty ninth, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Buck Sexton, We have a steak, bet, we have many
steak But I do not believe that Joe Biden is
going to run for re election in twenty twenty four,
because I think even Democrats are going to have to
acknowledge that his mental state is so deteriorated that he
doesn't have the capacity to do it. In the wake
of this viral incident yesterday, are you sticking to your
(35:48):
guns that Biden is going to run?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Absolutely, you're sticking to the guns.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I'm sticking with it. I think that they they almost
take I think there are a lot of Democrats who
privately take some glee in c we can even make
this guy president. I'm just gonna tell you, man, you
you you recovered the football on your own five yard
line and ran it downfield with like zero time on
(36:14):
the clock because you said that they were gonna pull
like Biden wasn't gonna run, And there was a Clay
were three weeks for the convention and he was he
was there, so they absolutely tried to run him. They
absolutely tried to do weekend at Bernie's two and it's
kind of like the end of Scooby Doo, where they
would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for
(36:34):
you dog gone kids. In this case, the kids are
the debate, which I think destroyed him and made it
much much harder him to go forward. But to be clear,
everybody two years ago I was like, oh no, they're
planning to run him. They won were planning to run him.
The entirety of the media went along with this. It
just got so bad that the very last minute they
(36:55):
decided to replace him with Kamala, which is insane. Insane,
They're going to regret it.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
I agree there.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
I also think this is why I hope we get
an honest telling for the historical record. The decision to
have a debate on June twenty seventh, may we know
lawfair has blown up in their face, But that was
a little bit more unclear how it might play out.
You and I thought that it would help, but it
(37:23):
clearly has blown up in their face. There's never been
a debate on June twenty seventh. There's never been a
debate before September. If they had just waited until September
or October, Nominee and one hundred percent. So how did
that come about? Did somebody set him up? Who made
(37:43):
that decision? Is how much of a debate was there?
That's I think.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I think that they really believe that he could just
pull it off for the night, because I've seen him
even in the last six months. Be that that the
The problem that they ran into was it was it
and this is all real stuff. It was late in
the day. We know it's what is its sundowning is
when you have you know, sanility, dimensia, et cetera, and
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you're that old. It was it was a late debate,
and he gave us the Biden. The Biden that they
hide and stage manage out of public view showed up
on that debate stage and I think they thought they
could count on the Biden that they present, you know, foggy,
befuddled or whatever. Because Clay here's the other part of
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it they they put it. If it was all a
setup to get him to drop out, why would Biden's
own team, who clearly want him to stay in because
they've been saying he's staying in until they look like
idiots now and they're not going to have jobs in
a few months, So why would they agree to it.
I think that that surmises or that that assumes way
(38:54):
too much for knowledge of how the debate, because Biden
could have there is a better version of Biden than
what you saw on that debate stage. The problem is, yeah,
he did have a bad day. He had a day
where you saw what he's really like most of the day.
I don't understand why. And this is first guessing. This
isn't second guessing. You can go back.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
When this happened, I said it was like a pass
fail for Biden. It didn't make sense to me that
if they were trying to drag him across the finish line,
they should have followed the Fetterman move don't debate until
super late when tons of people have already voted, right.
I mean, they could have done their get out the
vote campaign all of September, most of October, and then
(39:34):
on October twentieth they trot out Biden for one debate
and then they just have two weeks to recover from it.
Maybe they were concerned that it would it feels to me, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
You think it. You really believe that it was a setup, though,
But how how do you get that past Biden's own
people who they didn't want him to look like I'm
not su sure Joe Scarborough and company didn't want Biden
to look like an idiot on that debate stage because
they were saying he was great. You know what I mean,
there's a lot of people I want to know the
full story. I think you're right that they thought.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
But the fact that they thought they needed to debate
in June is an incredible weakness of the Biden candidacy.
They needed to do.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
It if it's it's like they were in a cult
and the truth to that the cult leader was, you know,
sleeping with all the cult followers wives and spending all
the money on rolls Royce's and doing all these things.
And they were all they knew you cannot question anything,
you cannot question anything, or you were outside the cult.
And then I think it just completely blew up in
(40:38):
their faces because when it got outside of that cult
realm on TV for everyone to see, and there was
no spinning it. It was it was far too late.
But look, I said, and this is a prediction that
I got wrong, which I shouldn't be admitting this stuff now.
I thought Biden wouldn't debate him by the way that
would have been so much, so much. Yes, just say
(40:59):
he's a threat to myocracy, you know, blah blah whatever.
But Clay, I really just think, you know, I've talked
about airline disasters and other things too, but airline disasters
cascating decision making or cascating problems right where you do
a little you know, I didn't press the right button,
and then I got up from the cockpit, and then
there was you know, smoke in the something or other,
(41:20):
and I pressed the wrong thing and it just keeps
going all of a sudden, you know, two hundred people
in the side of a mountain, Right, that's how these
things go. I think the law Fair failed. The law
Fair then they got desperate because the polls started to
turn against them, and they felt like they had to
turn the polls back at least trending in their favor
going into summer to run the usual playbook. And so,
(41:42):
in a sense, I think the Lawfair not only maybe
will catapult Donald Trump, has catapulted him ahead of the polls.
I think it may have ended up destroying Joe Biden's
chances at running. Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah,
because the prosecutions blew up in their faces. Numbers for
Trump were too good to be true. They had to
turn it around. They got desperate, and their desperate move
(42:05):
was having early debate and that completely backfired as well.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
And Kamala is going to backfire too. I mean, I
feel so confident, and this is why I'm sitting here.
I'm like, that's why it's going to cost me a stake.
And how could they be so dumb? There's no way.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
I mean, I know, people say, oh, look, we could
lose the House, we could lose the Senate. I take
nothing for granted. I'm sorry. If Kamala Harris beats Donald
Trump in an election and we can't find the fraud,
I don't want to hear about Oh whatever, we don't
we don't catch it red handed Republican Party, Like, what
are we even doing here, folks? What do we even
how do we even justify the existence of the GOP?
(42:43):
If Donald Trump, after taking a bullet in the ear
and raising his fist and saying fight and beating everybody
who has challenged him in all these prim Kamala Harris
wins it, at that point, we just, you know, to
start to live on.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
You really do have to ask the question Democrats can't
ever win an election. If Democrats can't I mean sorry,
if Republicans can't beat Kamala Harris, then the party is worthless.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
I'm just being honest. I mean that's the truth.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, So that's how i've and I see nothing to
change that analysis right now. Kamala Harris is a super Look,
we see reality. We knew all along, as you did too,
that Joe Biden had dementia and that this was absurd,
but Democrats kept pushing the absurdity. They are pushing absurdity again.
The absurdity is that Kamala Harris is a strong politician
(43:35):
who's going to be able to get swing state voters.
I mean, I think they're out of their minds. Let's
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Speaker 1 (45:05):
The recognition I think dawning on the Democrat Party that
now it's Kamala Harris. Good luck with that one. Kamala
Harris is going to be the Democrats, the Democrats likely nominee.
Who knows. I know somebody think it'll still be somebody else,
and it could be. And this is crazy because this
(45:28):
is definitely not according to some well rehearsed plan. This
is a mess, and I'll prove to you in part
that it is what a mess it is. But let
me start with this Van Jones over at CNN after
Biden dropped out. This was on Sunday, so they went
live a lot of shows, a lot of networks on
Sunday Sunday to get on this right away. And here's
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Van Jones on at play too.
Speaker 7 (45:53):
You just cry because this is somebody that you love,
This is somebody that you care about. This is somebody
who was there for somebody. You wouldn't be here without him,
and he had to take something from him. I don't
know anything about politics. I just know that I love
this man. I care about this man. It was painful
every day to sit up here and talk about him
like he's just a you know, some problem for the party.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
Wait till we get to the convention.
Speaker 7 (46:14):
You're gonna see people crying, standing, screaming, cheering. He may
not get a chance to talk for ten minutes. We
finally get a chance to put our arm around this guy.
He did the right thing for this country, He did
the right thing for this party. All this are going
to be in this situation someday, and I hope that
we take a moment to honor this man and to
love this man.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
I love Joe Biden.
Speaker 7 (46:31):
I appreciate what he's done, and a lot of people
are heartbroken today. Even if it's the right thing, it's
still just horrible.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
I just this makes me ill. It makes me ill
to see lies like this. You go first, and then
I'll tell you what you say. It's just funny because
we could sit here.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
I'm just telling you, and I don't want to spend
too much of your time. We treat your time as
very precious. Going through all the different Democrat clips of it,
what they're all saying is Joe did the right thing.
He put the country before himself. He did the heroic thing.
He stepped up. They dragged this old son of a gun,
(47:09):
kicking and screaming from this election. They've been trying to
pry his fingers off the levers of power for a
month since that debate, and again and again he has
said no. Again and again he has said I'm staying.
Clay mentioned this before. I thought this is worth noting. Clay.
This is co chair of the Biden campaign, Cedric Richmond
(47:32):
on CBS. You said this on Sunday, CBS faced the
nation three hours before he dropped out Play nine. Has
Joe Biden lost control of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 8 (47:46):
No, he's not, and he's hurt those concerns, And I
want to be crystal clear. He's made a decision, and
that decision is to accept the nomination and run for reelection.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Win reelection.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Three hours, three hours hours before. Yeah, let me just
say this. Those of us who are sports fans have
seen this story so many times.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
The coach is there, he's never leaving.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
The athletic director has faith in him, the recruiting class
is going great, and then a couple hours later he
gets fired and everybody immediately heaps dirt on him. Let
me say this, I told you this would happen. They're
gonna try to turn Joe Biden into George Washington. They're
gonna say never have we seen a more selfless leader.
(48:36):
He acknowledged that the country is more important than him. Look,
those are all lies, you and I and everyone out
there listening. We played you cuts from twenty twenty two.
But we've been saying four years that he was not
up to the physical and mental capacity of being president
right now, much less to run for four more years.
(48:57):
If he truly cared about the country, he would have
im out and said, I'm not going to stand for reelection.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
I'm going to allow an open.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Transparent primary where every Democrat can put their hat in
the ring, and we're going to let everybody else fight
it out. I'm going to try to be the best
president that I can for the remainder of my tenure
in office. That's what a truly selfless leader who acknowledged
his own failings would have done. That's what they hinted
(49:25):
Biden would do from the moment he announced he was
running in twenty twenty was that he was going to
be a bridge to the next generation of leaders. What
happened was the red wave didn't occur like we expected
in November of twenty twenty two. I got that one
one hundred percent wrong. A lot of other people did too,
but I own it. I thought we were going to
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see a red tsunami.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
We did not.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
Biden took that result as evidence that people liked him
being president and decided that he was going to run again.
If he had stepped out. I think this is important,
tu Buck. Democrats would have never picked Kamala Harris. She
would not have won. I really believe that she would
not have won the nomination to be their candidate in
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twenty twenty four. Somebody else. I don't know if it
would have been Gavin Newsommer, JB. Pritzker, who knows. Maybe
Elizabeth Warren er Bernie Sanders would have freaking thrown their
hats in the ring. I do not believe Kamala Harris
would have been the choice because she's not a good candidate.
She's not a likable person. And I just come back,
maybe I'm wrong on this. I would love to hear
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from people out there listening. I really think the fact
that she has no kids of her own and that
she began her career as the mistress of a powerful man.
I think, even though they won't mention it, democrats feel
a little distasteful about her entire career. I think you
(50:54):
also then lay her on top of it the fact
that she hasn't been a good politician, and that she
reminds a lot of people of the dei head of
whatever company you're in, the person who's walking around saying,
because of racism, we have to x or y, and
everybody out there in the back of their mind is thinking,
(51:14):
the only reason you have your job is because of racism.
Speaker 4 (51:19):
You have played racism to such an extent.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
You played that fiddle so well that you have allowed
yourself to be highly paid despite having no actual talent yourself.
Where does she come from buck California, which is probably
the most representatively embracing of cosmetic diversity without actual talent
of any state in America. Kamala looks like what Californians
(51:48):
think their leader should look like. Her actual job performance
does not support her continued advancement. She is the president
that the creatives at Netflix would put in the next
series they write. You know about Tom Klay's exactly right
or something she's did that Kamala Harris is the president
(52:08):
that liberals, uh, you know, fantasize about having running everything.
The problem is all the things that you laid out,
or the problems are the things that.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
You've laid out.
Speaker 4 (52:20):
And and I.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Think that also you can tell there's something a little
bit pathetic about the way the media is going to
now act like they have loved her all along. She's great,
she's I mean, they'll they'll say absolutely anything. They have
no exhibit a morning Joe Joe Scarborough himself saying two
months ago that Joe, I mean that Joe Biden is
(52:41):
the sharpest he's ever been. I mean, you can't say
that on TV and not think that everybody believes you're
a lying fool. Mika Brzhinsky, though, Clay, and this is
I feel like she was. I'm not saying this was
directed at you by Mika.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
But maybe it was.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Mika Razinski very very uh annoyed at all this hate
campaign against Harris by the mispronouncing of her name.
Speaker 9 (53:07):
This is ten And I've heard from inside Republican circles
and right wing media that the hate campaign against Kamala
Harris has begun. You'll notice they purposefully pronounce her name wrong.
They say Kamala. They do it all the time. It
is on purpose. But the talk is to start that
hate campaign and get it going and start it churning.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
Well, can I just tell you she says this? They
say Kamala. I was told I was told by a
senior Democrat, black political strategist in the Biden White House
at one point that that is how you pronounce her name.
So someone's gonna have to Kamala. Well, what's what's what's
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wrong with Kamala?
Speaker 2 (53:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
I don't I don't care what her name is or
how it's pronounced. She's done a crap job. And this
is why I come back to the idea that she
is good. I can't think other than being black and
a woman, which is why I think they're gonna say
(54:16):
it's racist and sexist to criticize her.
Speaker 4 (54:18):
At all, which you're already starting to hear.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
She's got to run on everything.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
That Joe Biden did, except she's a way less likable
version of Biden. Tell me how that's a winning campaign.
She's the borders. Are you heard us talk with the
Greg Abbotten Hour one, she is incompetent buck. I was
just reading during the break here She's fired almost to
(54:44):
all of her staff because evidently she's awful to work for.
One thing at least you can say about Joe Biden
is his staffers tend to last a long time. Now,
that doesn't mean he's a great guy, but you would
probably agree just from what we see in media. When
somebody is constantly having to fire the people that work
(55:08):
with them or around them, it's unlikely that every single
person you hire is a disaster. And if it is
that case, then that's on you. But I'm talking about
close personal associate numbers.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Yeah, I got the numbers for you on Kamala Harris.
Of forty seven Harris staffers that were working for her
in the first year of the presidency, only five still
work for her. Okay, from forty seven to five.
Speaker 3 (55:38):
Yeah, that is if you're a really likable person, that's
almost impossible to do. I'm talking about staffers. Now. Look,
the biggest criticism we've had of Trump is that he
hired a lot of people that weren't good enough at
their jobs in his first term. I think his hiring
will be a lot better in the second term. How
many people have quit Clay and Buck in the three
(56:00):
years that we've been on this show. Have we lost you?
Guys can text me in there. I think every single
person has stayed on. Maybe one or two have left
for bigger, better jobs. I'm trying to think through right now.
For Rush, many of the staff that's with us now
was also with Rush. This is a high stress high and.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
Twenty john plus years by the way, long time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
So if you are saying I'm saying this on Rush's
behalf too, but also ours. If you are an awful
person to work for, people want to dive out of
working for you because there's lots of other jobs to get.
Kamala has performed poorly, but also the same thing happened
on her campaign. She does not seem to be a
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very likable person to work for either, and it also
ties into it ties into some of the other narratives here.
It rings it's true because I would credit the person.
I forget who it is, but there's this line out
there that it's pretty obvious.
Speaker 1 (57:08):
I think we've said similar things that Kamala is always
the person giving a book report on a book she
didn't read. You know, that she's just used to being
pushed forward and you know, given the high five and
given the promotion and told she's doing a great job
when objectively that is not true, and she's gotten all
the way to the Vice president really vice presidency. On
(57:29):
that issue, Kamala with her staffers, the problem that's always
noted is that she takes it out on staffers when
she's ill prepared, That she takes it out on staffers
when she goes into a meeting and doesn't know anything. Basically,
Kamala doesn't do her homework, and then she takes it
out on people making you know, forty to fifty grand
(57:49):
a year as her you know whatever staffer for the
Vice President's office. I totally see that this doesn't surprise
me at all. I would also add this, Kamala's got
triple privilege. She's black, she's a woman. She's also pretty now.
Speaker 3 (58:07):
I know she's almost sixty now, but she got her
start as the side chick of Willie Brown. The three
most powerful privileges out there, pretty privilege is number one,
I swear, and I know there's people out there that
are gonna get mad at me about this. The number
one thing you can get away with. If you're a
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good looking woman, the normal rules of life don't apply
to you. Kamala is a good looking woman. She's also
layered it in California, a dei obsessed place with being
a minority and being a woman. She hasn't been held
to the same standard that most people in work would.
(58:52):
I'm telling you that's why she has got I think
buck that's why she's gotten away with not doing her
homework because early on, pretty privilege covers up a lot.
There's a lot of men out there that will forgive anything.
Some of you out there have been married for twenty
or thirty years to women that you never even would
have ever remotely been.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
With if they weren't pretty. You know it.
Speaker 3 (59:15):
The women know it too. I'm just telling you Kamala
is among the most privileged people in this country, and
a lot of times with privilege comes entitlement, which means
you don't do your homework. That's the reality, and I
think that's kind of the epitome of her job performance
so far, and I think people feel it, even Democrats
(59:37):
who didn't like her.
Speaker 1 (59:38):
I'm just I'm telling everybody, I was even with all
the things we've seen I maintained a level of concern
that Biden would somehow be able to with all the
things they do, pull it out against Trump. In the end,
I've been concerned. I didn't say it was likely, but
I was. I can't even find I can't find concern
right now with Kamala on that issue. I just think
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