October 5, 2024 • 36 mins
Trump-Harris dead even in betting markets. VP debate showed America the real JD Vance, helped him with women, voters in swing states. Trey Yingst, chief foreign correspondent for Fox News, talks to Clay and Buck from on the ground in Israel about Iran's missile attack and his new book: “Black Saturday: An Unfiltered Account of the October 7th Attack on Israel and the War in Gaza.” Hurricane Helene recovery and longshoreman strike.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through the
Wednesday edition of the program, reacting to last night's debate
and the incredibly dominant performance from Jade Vance, the waffling
performance from Tim Walls. The gambling markets have spoken Trump.
(00:21):
You know, guys know I like following this. Trump is
now dead, even with Kamala close to flipping the favorite
in the wake of last night's performance, both of them
dead on fifty to fifty. So if you are a
betting person right now, basically we are in the fourth quarter.
(00:41):
The game's tied and anything can happen, so dead even Trump, Kamala,
Buck and I both believe Trump is going to pull
it out.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Two things for you that we haven't talked about so far.
And one of our emailers raised this as an issue,
so I want to give him credit for it. But
it also was something that I got texted to me,
Britt writes in in the in the Clay and Buck
vip e mail bag.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Here.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I get most of my news from the radio, so
I haven't seen jd Vance in action before, but I
would have to believe that Clay is enthralled with jd
Vance's eyes. Now, look, the fact that that that I
think Bill Alugen's a good looking man has led many
of you to to to jump here to the jd
(01:27):
Vance's eyes had to captivate me.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I will say this, Buck.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Optics and cosmetics matter, and I want to get your
read on this. I got a text from one of
our OutKick women who works on the show works on
the OutKick website. She said that a lot of her
girlfriends were texting her during the debate saying they didn't
(01:51):
realize how good looking jd Vance was.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I also thought when you put those two boxes side
by side, jd Vance had the superior answers. But Buck,
as you well know, much of television is cosmetic. It
doesn't matter what you say, it's how you look while
you say it. I thought that Tim Walls constantly looking
(02:18):
in jd Vance's direction and snapping his head around a
lot too body language wise, was not a good look
for him. I also think, and this is look, I
look older probably than my age, and we've gone from
you know when you're you remember these days, Buck, when
you're like sixteen or seven.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You we're very well preserved. I can't, I can't let
that go in.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
But hold on, when you're sixteen or seventeen, everybody wants
to look older. I remember when I moved into my
freshman dorm, there was an eighteen year old from Minnesota
that looked forty two, and we were like, this guy's
gonna be able to get us beer anywhere in the city.
Nobody's asking for this guy's ID. And then as you
get older, you're like you pivot and you're like, well,
I wish I look younger than my age, right. I
(03:03):
think JD looks younger than forty. I think that Tim
Walls looks older than sixty. When you put Tim Walls
in Kamala Harris side by side, I don't think you
would think that they are the same age. The reason
why I bring this up we talked in the first
hour about how if you had bought into the caricature
of JD. Vance as some awful right wing idea logue
(03:24):
who's going to drag women out of their houses if
they get pregnant, make sure they're on a registry, all
this crazy stuff, the Handmaid's Tale style that they have
been peddling on MSNBC. What you actually saw was a
good looking guy with three kids seven in under who
is eminently reasonable and rational. And if you looked at
Tim Walls, I thought you saw a guy who was
(03:47):
old and frazzled and a bit bedraggled, and that side
by side cosmetic I think may well have registered with
some independent voters.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Am I crazy? Buck?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Or did you pick up on that too? In the
double box often shots, I mean, are you telling me
that J. D. Vance is hotter than Tim Wallas Clay?
Is that what we're going He is better looking, but
also he looked ahead. I think there's something to be said.
And I don't know what coaching these guys get and
gals get for debates it. You know how when you
do some things on television, Buck, they are counter to
(04:22):
how you would behave in real life. But if you
don't do them, you look weird. And I've said this before,
but for instance, if you stare somebody straight down in
a conversation, it's weird. Eventually we avert gaze like it
doesn't like if you just stare somebody in their eyes,
it makes them uncomfortable. If you don't stare at the
camera on a television show, you look the exact opposite.
(04:44):
You look sketchy and untrustworthy. I think when Walls was
looking at jd Vance, that might be normal in a
debate room, but it doesn't look normal on television.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
It made him look like he had something to hide.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Look, I mean I think that jad Vance did. I
think he's in a different level intellectually and debate wise,
and across the board from where Tim Walls is. Some
people are writing in by the way, I'm getting a
little a little bit of heat, which fine, a little
bit of heat that you know, why do you think
Tim Walls is likable? I'm saying he's more likable than
Kamala the same way that I said Hillary is more
(05:20):
likable than Kamala, which people disagree with too, which is fine.
I think that ja. I think that Tim Walls came
across better than I thought he would, because what I
had seen of him up to this point was utter buffoonery.
I mean, truly clown level stuff. Look, he was okay
up there, he wasn't you know, no one's expecting him
(05:40):
to be really smart. And I'm just trying to be honest,
you know, assessing this as I would if I were
like grading a debate tournament, which the thing I used
to do back in the day. I thought that for
him he did Okay, I give him like a B.
I think JD gets an A plus. Right, So that's
my fair assessment of it. I mean, I think that honestly,
(06:00):
Kamala and Trump, when they went head to head on
the substance, it was a little closer than I wanted
it to be. And I think that on the style,
Trump actually was much more favorable than a lot of
the punditry thought he was based on the polling and
the numbers afterwards. Walls wasn't particularly strong on anything other
(06:21):
than you know, the healthcare answer. I think was his
best moment is the truly best moment. People in the
punitry class we were going to talk about the January
sixth thing. They're saying that that's all that's Well, if
you're bar for winning a debate against Jade Vance, is
you just talk about January sixth and say that it
was really bad, well, then anyone you know that Joe
(06:43):
Biden could win a debate against Jade Vance. I guess
as long as you kept him awake long enough. So
I don't think that he got any. I don't think
he had any powerful moments. I don't think he ever
cornered JD on anything. I do really like the JD
beat the three on one against the two moderators who
were just Again people say why would they do that,
(07:03):
because I mean, I don't even know who runs CBS
News these days, but whoever runs CBS News is a
big lib and he or she who writes the checks
wanted the performance that that you know, little Margaret and
little Nora gave on that stage. They don't care about fair.
They care about making sure that the seven figure gravy
(07:26):
train for being a glorified QVC model essentially is continuing. Okay,
So that's what that's what that's all about. That's what
people shouldn't be surprised that they weren't particularly fair, you know.
So I think that those were the key takeaways clay
on it that that I had, and I think overall
on the border, Vance did really well. On the economy,
(07:48):
he did really well on on the abortion issue. I
think he took the position that this is the best
position that Republicans have right now from an electoral perspective,
which is it's not a federal issue.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Roe v.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Wade was horrible law. Okay, Roe v. Wade was I
make the law whatever I want. That's what it is.
That was the Supreme Court version of we just make
it up if we think it's really important, which means
you don't need a legislature. You don't even need an
executive branch, you just need a super legislature of the
Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Roe v.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Wade was garbage law. Beyond that, we have this thing
of making everything a federal law in this country, which
we absolutely should not do, and it is a huge
erosion of our rights as a result of it. Leaving
it to the states at this phase is the only
thing that Republicans can do with the current legal regime
that we have and try to persuade people and try to,
(08:37):
you know, have the debate and have the conversation. But
that's like the point, right this is our system is
actually set up for that to occur.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Two other things, and you're right on all that. Two
other things that stood out to me. I thought jd
Vance did a really good job shouting out his wife.
And there are a lot of women out there that
had been uncomfortable with jd Vance based on the way
that he was characterized, I think I can speak for you.
I know I can speak for me. I think who
(09:06):
a man or woman picks as his life or her
life partner tells you almost more about them than anything else.
Your wife super smart. My wife's super smart, both accomplished.
JD vance marrying a Yelle law grad who has now
given him and they have as a family three young kids,
(09:27):
and her working in a major law firm while also
being a former Supreme Court clerk. His wife is an
incredibly accomplished woman, and I think him addressing that directly
while also talking about the fact that he was raised
by a drug addict mom and a grandma who helped
to carry for Carrie, raise him, care for him when
(09:52):
his mom could not. I think that's a really hard
thing for a woman not to be impressed by, which
is why the caricature of JD I thought was so unfair.
So I think he helped himself with women. But the
other thing is if this race is going to be
decided by voters in big ten states Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania
in particular, if you're a guy or a gal in
(10:15):
those three states, Tim Walls was picked directly to try
to peel off some of those voters. I think JD
Vance seems like the more normal, likable guy to people
in those what I call Big ten states. So I
think JD did a really good job with solidifying his
perspective with women who might have been not that enamored
(10:37):
of him, but after watching him, said, man, he's nothing
like what they told us he was. And I think
also the Big ten voters, the men and women there,
the high school educated. The story about my mom was
a drug addict and my grandma raised me. I mean,
this is the opposite of a silver spoon. I think
that connects honestly with a lot of people who were
(10:58):
not born with silver spoons in their mouth, unlike I mean, look,
Trump and Kamala both had a lot of advantages. Even
though Kamal always tries to say she was a middle
class kid, her parents are both PhDs. I mean, that's
not a normal life to grow up with. I think
JD connect with a lot of those people better than Walt.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yes. And I would also add that on the attacks
of the kind of war on women's stuff that the
Democrats always trot out, it was a little bit of
that last night. I just also say whenever they talk
about abortion. Notice that they don't talk about abortion. A
woman's right to bodily autonomy and to make her own decisions.
And this isn't about what kind of casse role you're
(11:37):
making for dinner. This is a big issue and it's
about abortion and the fact that they can't speak honestly
about it. And also, I mean should be very straightforward.
Does Minnesota demand protection under law for a baby who
survives in abortion? People who say babies don't survive abortions
are wrong. They do. That is a fact. Okay, So
(11:58):
does the law demand that a baby who survives the
abortion procedure needs to be provided with caaren Minnesota? Yes
or no? We need you know, if we had a
media that cared at all about anything, we would get
an honest, you know anything, honest we'd get an answer
on that. But Clay, the idea that Vance, who as
you point out, has you know, lovely, lovely and accomplished wife,
(12:18):
three kids from all we can tell, seems to have
a happy home and personal life and and you know
again has an accomplished wife as well as a you know,
a devoted mom from what we what we know. And
then Donald Trump who okay, you know, yeah, I mean
Donald Trump's problem might be he likes women a little
too much. I mean, he's been very three times and
(12:39):
he owned the Miss Universe contest that they are going
to be the American Taliban and put women in you know,
the handmaiden's tail handmaid's tail clothing. This is an insane argument, right,
Donald Donald Trump is going to be the one that's
like making women into you know, the Handmaids Tale of
(12:59):
the whole thing is absurd, some dystopian future. But he's
like some radical excremists when it comes to women. Really,
the guy married to the Eastern European supermodel, Like, do
they hear themselves when they make these idiotic arguments every day?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
No, that's funny. And here's one little thought I'll leave
you with too, and we'll take some of your calls.
We got Trey Yanks from Israel who's going to join
us the bottom of the hour, but we'll take some
more of your calls. I think there's also a lot
of left wing women that secretly want to marry somebody
like JD. Vance and in their head they can't find
that guy, and when they watched him on stage, they're like, Oh,
(13:37):
he's got three kids under seven, he married a lawyer wife,
he went to law school himself. He is forty years old.
He is trying to build the life for his own
family that he did not have personally because he had
an absent father. And I know there are a lot
of people out there listening to us right now that
have had broken homes. And when you have the opportunity
(13:58):
to create a family for yourself, well, if you know
better than anybody what it feels like to not have
a dad or a mom in your life, and you
want to avoid ever creating that situation for your family.
And I think JD has tried to answer that. And
that's the ultimate irony of all of this, Buck is
so many of these left wingers they talk left, but
(14:21):
they live right in their own lives. They get married,
they have kids, they stay married, they buy a home,
they want to live in the best school this year.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
You mean that the leaders of the Democrat Party aren't
a bunch of purple haired nos ring anarchists what a chef. Yes,
but it's so important because I think it in the
back of their mind when they watch JD, they're torn
because they actually want that in their own life, but
they have to pretend that they don't, and I think
there's a cognitive dissonance that registers with them. And I
(14:51):
think that that really worked for JD in the way
that he performed.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
He wasn't the boogeyman. He wasn't the big, bad, awful
guy who's going to drag women by their hair off
the porch if they get pregnant. In fact, he actually
said he even understood why women got abortions because he
had one of his friends from high school that didn't
have a guy she wanted to be with and felt
like she was going to be in some way dealing
with that for the rest of her life and it
wouldn't allow her to fulfill the ambitions that she had
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we'll talk to Trey yinst about his book on October seventh.
About October seventh, rather, he is a Fox News foreign correspondent.
He's based out of Israel a lot of the time,
covering the conflict there. Last night, Vance and Walt, the
first question was actually about support for an Israeli strike
on Iran, and I will just I will admit this.
(17:24):
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of just that was when he was really finding his footing.
Remember that, Clay. For the first few minutes walls looked like,
is he going to get through this? He got a
little bit better after that, but I can't even tell
you what his answer was about that. But obviously major
major tensions over in the Middle East. Right now, we'll
(17:45):
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in Klay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Reacting to Timwall versus
JD Vance and the big win for JD vans last
night based on even CNN's polling. I saw buck that
had JD Vance winning when they never buy and large
(19:10):
ever have a Republican winning. The only time I can
remember it in the last decade or so was when
Trump knocked out Joe Biden, and Biden was just so
awful on June twenty seventh. Maybe met Romney first debate
twenty twelve, but they're rare where they say, hey, look
this guy won. I saw a lot of the swing
state voter polling undecided voters who were watching were more
(19:33):
impressed by JD Vance. Even the Washington Post has a
lead story up about that right now where they try
to have a focus group and obviously anytime you have
any group of twenty or twenty five people, it's a
little bit arbitrary how they respond.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
You don't know the internal dynamics of the room. But
everything that I saw has jd Vance doing better than
Tim Walls, which is why if Walls was selected to
try to appeal to people in Michigan, Sylvania and Wisconsin,
it doesn't seem like that has really worked and that
jd Vance is having a strong pull.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
There in those states.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
By the way, we were supposed to be joined by
Trey Yanks Fox News in this segment. You might imagine
things are a little bit chaotic in Israel right now,
so we may or may not officially get him on
the line here, but I did want to mention Buck
one story that has come down. We have Trey. Now,
Trey is with us. Trey Yanks, you got a brand
(20:30):
new book out. Appreciate you joining us here on Clay
and Buck. But I just want to start before we
get to the book. Yesterday, the attack of Iran on Israel.
I believe it was one hundred and eighty one missiles
I think is the final number. What was that experience
like for you and what are you hearing about what
happens now.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, well, thank you guys for having me. It was
a surreal experience in many ways. You know, I've been
reporting on the ground here in the Middle East for
more than six years, for five and this is only
the second time that I've lived through a ballistic missile
attack here, and one other time when Iron launched a
ballistic missile attack and I was reporting in Baghdad. But
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to see these missiles streaming to the skies of Israel
and some of them getting intercepted, others actually impacting the ground,
it was significant, and it was a major escalation as
we look at this story and what comes next, because
the Israelis have said time and time again that they
will respond if an attack of this scale happened. So
as it was happening in real time, the first thing
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that I was thinking was how is Isra are going
to respond to this? And initial reports indicate it will
be a heavy response.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Trey, It'll be a heavy response. That's something that came
up and last night in the debate between Vance and Waltz,
I mean, can you just give us a sense as
to how is the current sentiment right now in Israel
about the support that they have received, or perhaps lack
of support on some areas. When it comes to the
(22:03):
Biden administration and what their approach has been since October seventh, particularly.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
It's interesting because you get a variety of responses, and
you know, we talked to everyone involved, from the commandos
who are currently in southern Lebanon to the soldiers that
were fighting over the past year in Gaza, to Israel's
Defense Minister Jov Galand and there is a common sentiment
among Israeli officials of frustration as it relates to the
relationship with the United States. They're thankful for some support
(22:34):
and frustrated with other support. And I'll just give you
one example. Back in the middle of the war between
Israel and Hamas and Gaza, remember that the Biden administration
slowed the weapon shipments to Israel. They were still allowing
certain ammunition and certain bombs to make their way to Israel,
but others were put on pause temporarily, and there was
frustration among the Israelis because those bombs weren't for Gaza.
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They were to basically target Hasbel of positions war that
we're watching unfold now, and so behind the scenes, the
relationship continues. It's very close, and their coordination is also
quite high when you think about even the response last
night as these ballistic missiles were streaming through the sky.
US Central Command was involved in shooting some of them down.
(23:18):
But publicly there can be some disagreements, and that's part
of the story that we cover here, but we're mostly
focused on the day to day actions on the ground
and what's taking place amid the war now that's unfolding
in the northern part of the country.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
We're talking to Trey Yanks, chief foreign correspondent for Fox
on the Ground in Israel. The book that he has
Black Saturday and Unfiltered account of the October seventh attack
on Israel and the war in Gaza, was released yesterday. Trey,
what was your experience like on October seventh? Where were you,
(23:52):
How did you become aware of what was happening, and
what was that day like for someone in Israel in
your experience?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
So, I got a call on October seventh at seven
o three am in the morning from my producer and
she said, something's happening in the south, And normally when
something's happening in the South, it's a rocket attack. And
we knew that rockets were being fired not only in
southern Israel but also into central Israel, and so we
thought this was sort of the status quo of an
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attack from Gaza launched by Hamas or Islamic Jihad. Maybe
there was something that we missed, and this was the
initial thought process. Maybe there was a targeted assassination that
the Israelis took out a commander. Something didn't make sense.
And as we got closer to the Gaza border to
start reporting in the location that we always report from,
we slowly started to piece together what was happening. And
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when we stopped at one intersection and got out of
the car, we could hear gunfire in the distance, and
this was the first major sign that something was wrong,
something was different. And as we reported throughout the day,
that intersection turned into a treoce point and we watched
soldiers and civilians wounded by gunfire gone in front of us.
Some died, others were taken to hospitals in southern Israeli cities,
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and a war erupted between Israel and Hamat that still
continues today.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Trey in the book, I know you get into some
of this, but you know there was we were heartbroken here.
We covered October seventh, you know, from thousands of miles away,
but it was felt all too real and horrific just
as the details came in for all of us, including
everyone listening all over the country. What do you want
(25:35):
people to know about what happened that day? And I
mean there were some people who came out in the
media and elsewhere afterwards to say, well, some aspects of
what was initially claimed were unverified, or there was some
exaggeration or anything like that. I wanted you, as somebody
who's on the ground and has seen and been to
(25:58):
these places yourself, what is true and what is not
about the commentary that came out after October seventh.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I think there are a lot of people who have
opinions about the war that's unfolding, and I'm not one
of those people. I carry very few opinions about this
conflict or others. We're focused on the facts on the ground,
and that's what you'll see when you read Black Saturday,
and it's also what you'll see when you watch Fox
and you see our reports live from the ground in
not only this war zone, but war zones around the world.
(26:29):
The morning of October seventh was quite confusing from an
information standpoint, and I was very careful with what we
were gathering and also very careful with what we were
putting out to the public, understanding that this was such
a real, time breaking new situation that I needed to
be patient with a lot of the information. And that's
a critical point that I make in the book, and
it's something that I really believe in. It's patients and
(26:49):
information because I'd rather be right than first. And it
doesn't matter if it's covering the war between Israel and
Hamas and the times that we were entering the Gaza strip,
or if it's the war that's unfolding now between Israel
and Hezbolah. When people talk about this conflict, I think
there's another really important thing to remember, and this probably
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gets more to the core of your question. The October
seventh massacre was the largest slaughter of Jews since the Holocaust.
That is an objective fact. The Israeli response against Gaza
has led to the highest depth toll among Palestinian civilians
in the history of their people. These are two facts
that are true at the same time, and that's why
I encourage people to have empathy for those who are
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affected by this war. Because there are millions of people
in the region. They have a variety of the viewpoints,
they have a variety of opinions, and they do a
variety of different actions. And so often when people talk
about the Middle East, or they talk about Israelis and Palestinians,
they want to very quickly put people into two camps.
But the reality is, and I talk about this in
Black Saturday, is that the people who live on the
ground here and experience this every day exist on a spectrum.
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And I think the only information that you should trust
about what is happening as it relates to the war
in Gaza or the war that's taking place right now
between Israeli Hesbla is information that properly covers all viewpoints,
that gives you a true understanding of the complexities and
the uncomfortable truths about war. Because war is not pretty,
(28:16):
it's complicated, it's complex. But at the end of the day,
we have to get to the bottom line facts because
if you don't, and we saw this throughout the past year,
it can lead to other consequences that have really serious implications,
not just for the region, but for the whole world.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Trey. We talk a lot about post traumatic stress for
soldiers when they return from places where they've deployed based
on what they've seen. I'm curious for you and other
reporters and other individuals who are civilians who are outside
of combat roles. How do you process, contemplate and remain
able to do your job based on what you have seen?
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And how do you manage that? And what have you
found to work? And what would you say to maybe
somebody out there who is listening to us right now,
and maybe they're a kid and one day they think, Hey,
I'd like to be a journalist like Trey, is what
have you learned?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Well? I tell my team something very often, and it's
something that I tell myself very often. It's actually the
background of my phone and it's stay focused on the mission.
And that's something that guides me remembering what my mission is,
and that is to provide fair, objective, and truthful journalism
to our audience and to my readers. But it's challenging
to cover a story like this. We witness death and
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destruction firsthand, and I think on a high level, it's
remembering to be empathetic and understanding of everyone involved in
the stories that we cover and try to get to
the core of why people do what they do, and
on a more simple level, it's seemed horrific things and
then knowing that you need to process the aftermath of
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that in a healthy way, not turning to drugs and
alcohol to deal with the thoughts that you have and
the memories that you have of the scenes not only
in southern Israel but also in Gaza. And for me,
that's cold exposure, that's eating healthy, that's working out. That
is talking about mental health and not being afraid to
discuss it, because I think that's also a critical component
(30:14):
in all of this. And if you're listening and you're
someone who is afraid to talk about mental health, I'd
encourage you to speak to your friends, speak to your
loved ones, speak to a trained professional ticke at therapist.
You don't have to be afraid to talk about your mind.
And it doesn't make you less cool, It doesn't make
you any less afraid than we all are to be
here in this life and on earth. And for me,
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I think that it has been an opportunity to be
able to talk about mental health because I think a
lot of people watch what we do, and they see
us go into these battle zones and embedded with militaries
and on the front lines of conflict around the world,
and they say, Wow, that guy, he's cool. He's there,
he's on the front lines. He's seen it. And I
want to be a voice for people who are afraid
to speak out about mental health and say, look, I
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talk about it. You can talk about it too, and
you can go a step further. Not only talk about it,
but you can think of healthy ways to handle your mind.
You can do the coote exposure, you can do the
working out, the running, and you can try to have
a healthy lifestyle so that you can create an environment
for yourself to flourish and be the best version of yourself.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Trey yanks He is the chief foreign correspondent for Fox
on the Ground in Israel, the author of Black Saturday,
Unfiltered account of the October seventh attack on Israel in
the War on Got War in Gaza in bookstores now,
we appreciate your time. Stay safe.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Look, I want to tell you, speaking of what Trey
has seen in Israel, certainly there are still people who
have very vivid memories of What happened in this country
On September eleventh, and last weekend was the annual Tunnel
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Our producer Ali and her husband Gerard did it, along
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the show, started the five K, which pays homage to
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I almost said?
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We definitely help you check all of that out. And Clay,
you know, we haven't really followed up much with today
on the North Carolina hurricane, you know, aftermath situation. I
(34:17):
have seen some stories about people who have finally been
able to get to their dogs. Some dogs people were
separated from them over the course of the storm, weren't
allowed to go back to their homes. Looks like people
are now being allowed to be a little bit more
mobile than they have been. There was a piece of
the New York Post but a guy who had a
helicopter and was just using his helicopter to save people,
(34:38):
and some local officials said, I'm going to rescue unless
you stop flying your helicopter around saving people. So we
got to keep an eye on how some of this
government stuff is going here, because look, what you saw
during COVID is that the government will do idiotic things
poorly and use its force not to save people, but
(35:01):
to make it harder for us to save each other.
And that's that's a very painful but very important lesson
that we saw during COVID, and I think the fact
that you have the administration you do right now overseeing
the federal effort means that we got to keep an eye.
I got to keep an eye on this stuff. I'm
sure there're a lot of good folks out there are
doing great work and trying to help out. I mean
(35:22):
from the leadership level, though, I mean, I'm hearing some
weird things about preventing people from getting back to their homes,
not letting people get out on the roads, not letting people,
you know, move freely. You know. It's it's like a
little pandemic esque in terms of we're just going to
make up rules and you have to obey them.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Not only that, I mean again with the longshoreman strike,
the fact that we're going to have two major interstates
it appears shut down for months I forty and I
believe I twenty five or I twenty six in that area.
We don't have the best minds working on this right
now in our government. Thanks to you, Elon, there may
be at least some starlink service for people out there
(36:04):
who are in North Carolina and East Tennessee and need help.
But we got to keep all these people thoughts, prayers,
and also if you have the resources to be able
to support, please do so because the government's not getting
everything done to take care of all these people.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, so anything you can do to help out in
that area. And I'm checking in with family up there
every day just to see that the recovery efforts are
moving along and see how they're helping their neighbors. So
we have not forgotten at all about what's going on
in North Carolina and the surrounding states that got hit hard.
We'll be able to bring you more updates about what's
going on here at home and abroad tomorrow. So play.
(36:42):
We have an election in a few weeks. People are
gonna start voting soon. Early voting soons coming up. Great,
a lot of you already are. It's wild. Thanks for
hanging with us. We'll be back with you tomorrow breaking
down all the latest
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through the
Wednesday edition of the program, reacting to last night's debate
and the incredibly dominant performance from Jade Vance, the waffling
performance from Tim Walls. The gambling markets have spoken Trump.
(00:21):
You know, guys know I like following this. Trump is
now dead, even with Kamala close to flipping the favorite
in the wake of last night's performance, both of them
dead on fifty to fifty. So if you are a
betting person right now, basically we are in the fourth quarter.
(00:41):
The game's tied and anything can happen, so dead even Trump, Kamala,
Buck and I both believe Trump is going to pull
it out.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Two things for you that we haven't talked about so far.
And one of our emailers raised this as an issue,
so I want to give him credit for it. But
it also was something that I got texted to me,
Britt writes in in the in the Clay and Buck
vip e mail bag.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Here.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I get most of my news from the radio, so
I haven't seen jd Vance in action before, but I
would have to believe that Clay is enthralled with jd
Vance's eyes. Now, look, the fact that that that I
think Bill Alugen's a good looking man has led many
of you to to to jump here to the jd
(01:27):
Vance's eyes had to captivate me.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I will say this, Buck.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Optics and cosmetics matter, and I want to get your
read on this. I got a text from one of
our OutKick women who works on the show works on
the OutKick website. She said that a lot of her
girlfriends were texting her during the debate saying they didn't
(01:51):
realize how good looking jd Vance was.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I also thought when you put those two boxes side
by side, jd Vance had the superior answers. But Buck,
as you well know, much of television is cosmetic. It
doesn't matter what you say, it's how you look while
you say it. I thought that Tim Walls constantly looking
(02:18):
in jd Vance's direction and snapping his head around a
lot too body language wise, was not a good look
for him. I also think, and this is look, I
look older probably than my age, and we've gone from
you know when you're you remember these days, Buck, when
you're like sixteen or seven.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You we're very well preserved. I can't, I can't let
that go in.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
But hold on, when you're sixteen or seventeen, everybody wants
to look older. I remember when I moved into my
freshman dorm, there was an eighteen year old from Minnesota
that looked forty two, and we were like, this guy's
gonna be able to get us beer anywhere in the city.
Nobody's asking for this guy's ID. And then as you
get older, you're like you pivot and you're like, well,
I wish I look younger than my age, right. I
(03:03):
think JD looks younger than forty. I think that Tim
Walls looks older than sixty. When you put Tim Walls
in Kamala Harris side by side, I don't think you
would think that they are the same age. The reason
why I bring this up we talked in the first
hour about how if you had bought into the caricature
of JD. Vance as some awful right wing idea logue
(03:24):
who's going to drag women out of their houses if
they get pregnant, make sure they're on a registry, all
this crazy stuff, the Handmaid's Tale style that they have
been peddling on MSNBC. What you actually saw was a
good looking guy with three kids seven in under who
is eminently reasonable and rational. And if you looked at
Tim Walls, I thought you saw a guy who was
(03:47):
old and frazzled and a bit bedraggled, and that side
by side cosmetic I think may well have registered with
some independent voters.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Am I crazy? Buck?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Or did you pick up on that too? In the
double box often shots, I mean, are you telling me
that J. D. Vance is hotter than Tim Wallas Clay?
Is that what we're going He is better looking, but
also he looked ahead. I think there's something to be said.
And I don't know what coaching these guys get and
gals get for debates it. You know how when you
do some things on television, Buck, they are counter to
(04:22):
how you would behave in real life. But if you
don't do them, you look weird. And I've said this before,
but for instance, if you stare somebody straight down in
a conversation, it's weird. Eventually we avert gaze like it
doesn't like if you just stare somebody in their eyes,
it makes them uncomfortable. If you don't stare at the
camera on a television show, you look the exact opposite.
(04:44):
You look sketchy and untrustworthy. I think when Walls was
looking at jd Vance, that might be normal in a
debate room, but it doesn't look normal on television.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
It made him look like he had something to hide.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Look, I mean I think that jad Vance did. I
think he's in a different level intellectually and debate wise,
and across the board from where Tim Walls is. Some
people are writing in by the way, I'm getting a
little a little bit of heat, which fine, a little
bit of heat that you know, why do you think
Tim Walls is likable? I'm saying he's more likable than
Kamala the same way that I said Hillary is more
(05:20):
likable than Kamala, which people disagree with too, which is fine.
I think that ja. I think that Tim Walls came
across better than I thought he would, because what I
had seen of him up to this point was utter buffoonery.
I mean, truly clown level stuff. Look, he was okay
up there, he wasn't you know, no one's expecting him
(05:40):
to be really smart. And I'm just trying to be honest,
you know, assessing this as I would if I were
like grading a debate tournament, which the thing I used
to do back in the day. I thought that for
him he did Okay, I give him like a B.
I think JD gets an A plus. Right, So that's
my fair assessment of it. I mean, I think that honestly,
(06:00):
Kamala and Trump, when they went head to head on
the substance, it was a little closer than I wanted
it to be. And I think that on the style,
Trump actually was much more favorable than a lot of
the punditry thought he was based on the polling and
the numbers afterwards. Walls wasn't particularly strong on anything other
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than you know, the healthcare answer. I think was his
best moment is the truly best moment. People in the
punitry class we were going to talk about the January
sixth thing. They're saying that that's all that's Well, if
you're bar for winning a debate against Jade Vance, is
you just talk about January sixth and say that it
was really bad, well, then anyone you know that Joe
(06:43):
Biden could win a debate against Jade Vance. I guess
as long as you kept him awake long enough. So
I don't think that he got any. I don't think
he had any powerful moments. I don't think he ever
cornered JD on anything. I do really like the JD
beat the three on one against the two moderators who
were just Again people say why would they do that,
(07:03):
because I mean, I don't even know who runs CBS
News these days, but whoever runs CBS News is a
big lib and he or she who writes the checks
wanted the performance that that you know, little Margaret and
little Nora gave on that stage. They don't care about fair.
They care about making sure that the seven figure gravy
(07:26):
train for being a glorified QVC model essentially is continuing. Okay,
So that's what that's what that's all about. That's what
people shouldn't be surprised that they weren't particularly fair, you know.
So I think that those were the key takeaways clay
on it that that I had, and I think overall
on the border, Vance did really well. On the economy,
(07:48):
he did really well on on the abortion issue. I
think he took the position that this is the best
position that Republicans have right now from an electoral perspective,
which is it's not a federal issue.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Roe v.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Wade was horrible law. Okay, Roe v. Wade was I
make the law whatever I want. That's what it is.
That was the Supreme Court version of we just make
it up if we think it's really important, which means
you don't need a legislature. You don't even need an
executive branch, you just need a super legislature of the
Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Roe v.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Wade was garbage law. Beyond that, we have this thing
of making everything a federal law in this country, which
we absolutely should not do, and it is a huge
erosion of our rights as a result of it. Leaving
it to the states at this phase is the only
thing that Republicans can do with the current legal regime
that we have and try to persuade people and try to,
(08:37):
you know, have the debate and have the conversation. But
that's like the point, right this is our system is
actually set up for that to occur.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Two other things, and you're right on all that. Two
other things that stood out to me. I thought jd
Vance did a really good job shouting out his wife.
And there are a lot of women out there that
had been uncomfortable with jd Vance based on the way
that he was characterized, I think I can speak for you.
I know I can speak for me. I think who
(09:06):
a man or woman picks as his life or her
life partner tells you almost more about them than anything else.
Your wife super smart. My wife's super smart, both accomplished.
JD vance marrying a Yelle law grad who has now
given him and they have as a family three young kids,
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and her working in a major law firm while also
being a former Supreme Court clerk. His wife is an
incredibly accomplished woman, and I think him addressing that directly
while also talking about the fact that he was raised
by a drug addict mom and a grandma who helped
to carry for Carrie, raise him, care for him when
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his mom could not. I think that's a really hard
thing for a woman not to be impressed by, which
is why the caricature of JD I thought was so unfair.
So I think he helped himself with women. But the
other thing is if this race is going to be
decided by voters in big ten states Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania
in particular, if you're a guy or a gal in
(10:15):
those three states, Tim Walls was picked directly to try
to peel off some of those voters. I think JD
Vance seems like the more normal, likable guy to people
in those what I call Big ten states. So I
think JD did a really good job with solidifying his
perspective with women who might have been not that enamored
(10:37):
of him, but after watching him, said, man, he's nothing
like what they told us he was. And I think
also the Big ten voters, the men and women there,
the high school educated. The story about my mom was
a drug addict and my grandma raised me. I mean,
this is the opposite of a silver spoon. I think
that connects honestly with a lot of people who were
(10:58):
not born with silver spoons in their mouth, unlike I mean, look,
Trump and Kamala both had a lot of advantages. Even
though Kamal always tries to say she was a middle
class kid, her parents are both PhDs. I mean, that's
not a normal life to grow up with. I think
JD connect with a lot of those people better than Walt.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yes. And I would also add that on the attacks
of the kind of war on women's stuff that the
Democrats always trot out, it was a little bit of
that last night. I just also say whenever they talk
about abortion. Notice that they don't talk about abortion. A
woman's right to bodily autonomy and to make her own decisions.
And this isn't about what kind of casse role you're
(11:37):
making for dinner. This is a big issue and it's
about abortion and the fact that they can't speak honestly
about it. And also, I mean should be very straightforward.
Does Minnesota demand protection under law for a baby who
survives in abortion? People who say babies don't survive abortions
are wrong. They do. That is a fact. Okay, So
(11:58):
does the law demand that a baby who survives the
abortion procedure needs to be provided with caaren Minnesota? Yes
or no? We need you know, if we had a
media that cared at all about anything, we would get
an honest, you know anything, honest we'd get an answer
on that. But Clay, the idea that Vance, who as
you point out, has you know, lovely, lovely and accomplished wife,
(12:18):
three kids from all we can tell, seems to have
a happy home and personal life and and you know
again has an accomplished wife as well as a you know,
a devoted mom from what we what we know. And
then Donald Trump who okay, you know, yeah, I mean
Donald Trump's problem might be he likes women a little
too much. I mean, he's been very three times and
(12:39):
he owned the Miss Universe contest that they are going
to be the American Taliban and put women in you know,
the handmaiden's tail handmaid's tail clothing. This is an insane argument, right,
Donald Donald Trump is going to be the one that's
like making women into you know, the Handmaids Tale of
(12:59):
the whole thing is absurd, some dystopian future. But he's
like some radical excremists when it comes to women. Really,
the guy married to the Eastern European supermodel, Like, do
they hear themselves when they make these idiotic arguments every day?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
No, that's funny. And here's one little thought I'll leave
you with too, and we'll take some of your calls.
We got Trey Yanks from Israel who's going to join
us the bottom of the hour, but we'll take some
more of your calls. I think there's also a lot
of left wing women that secretly want to marry somebody
like JD. Vance and in their head they can't find
that guy, and when they watched him on stage, they're like, Oh,
(13:37):
he's got three kids under seven, he married a lawyer wife,
he went to law school himself. He is forty years old.
He is trying to build the life for his own
family that he did not have personally because he had
an absent father. And I know there are a lot
of people out there listening to us right now that
have had broken homes. And when you have the opportunity
(13:58):
to create a family for yourself, well, if you know
better than anybody what it feels like to not have
a dad or a mom in your life, and you
want to avoid ever creating that situation for your family.
And I think JD has tried to answer that. And
that's the ultimate irony of all of this, Buck is
so many of these left wingers they talk left, but
(14:21):
they live right in their own lives. They get married,
they have kids, they stay married, they buy a home,
they want to live in the best school this year.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
You mean that the leaders of the Democrat Party aren't
a bunch of purple haired nos ring anarchists what a chef. Yes,
but it's so important because I think it in the
back of their mind when they watch JD, they're torn
because they actually want that in their own life, but
they have to pretend that they don't, and I think
there's a cognitive dissonance that registers with them. And I
(14:51):
think that that really worked for JD in the way
that he performed.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
He wasn't the boogeyman. He wasn't the big, bad, awful
guy who's going to drag women by their hair off
the porch if they get pregnant. In fact, he actually
said he even understood why women got abortions because he
had one of his friends from high school that didn't
have a guy she wanted to be with and felt
like she was going to be in some way dealing
with that for the rest of her life and it
wouldn't allow her to fulfill the ambitions that she had
(15:15):
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All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Coming up,
we'll talk to Trey yinst about his book on October seventh.
About October seventh, rather, he is a Fox News foreign correspondent.
He's based out of Israel a lot of the time,
covering the conflict there. Last night, Vance and Walt, the
first question was actually about support for an Israeli strike
on Iran, and I will just I will admit this.
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I can't even remember what Wall said. It was kind
of just that was when he was really finding his footing.
Remember that, Clay. For the first few minutes walls looked like,
is he going to get through this? He got a
little bit better after that, but I can't even tell
you what his answer was about that. But obviously major
major tensions over in the Middle East. Right now, we'll
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talk about the latest with that with Trey, and also
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in Klay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Reacting to Timwall versus
JD Vance and the big win for JD vans last
night based on even CNN's polling. I saw buck that
had JD Vance winning when they never buy and large
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ever have a Republican winning. The only time I can
remember it in the last decade or so was when
Trump knocked out Joe Biden, and Biden was just so
awful on June twenty seventh. Maybe met Romney first debate
twenty twelve, but they're rare where they say, hey, look
this guy won. I saw a lot of the swing
state voter polling undecided voters who were watching were more
(19:33):
impressed by JD Vance. Even the Washington Post has a
lead story up about that right now where they try
to have a focus group and obviously anytime you have
any group of twenty or twenty five people, it's a
little bit arbitrary how they respond.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
You don't know the internal dynamics of the room. But
everything that I saw has jd Vance doing better than
Tim Walls, which is why if Walls was selected to
try to appeal to people in Michigan, Sylvania and Wisconsin,
it doesn't seem like that has really worked and that
jd Vance is having a strong pull.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
There in those states.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
By the way, we were supposed to be joined by
Trey Yanks Fox News in this segment. You might imagine
things are a little bit chaotic in Israel right now,
so we may or may not officially get him on
the line here, but I did want to mention Buck
one story that has come down. We have Trey. Now,
Trey is with us. Trey Yanks, you got a brand
(20:30):
new book out. Appreciate you joining us here on Clay
and Buck. But I just want to start before we
get to the book. Yesterday, the attack of Iran on Israel.
I believe it was one hundred and eighty one missiles
I think is the final number. What was that experience
like for you and what are you hearing about what
happens now.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, well, thank you guys for having me. It was
a surreal experience in many ways. You know, I've been
reporting on the ground here in the Middle East for
more than six years, for five and this is only
the second time that I've lived through a ballistic missile
attack here, and one other time when Iron launched a
ballistic missile attack and I was reporting in Baghdad. But
(21:12):
to see these missiles streaming to the skies of Israel
and some of them getting intercepted, others actually impacting the ground,
it was significant, and it was a major escalation as
we look at this story and what comes next, because
the Israelis have said time and time again that they
will respond if an attack of this scale happened. So
as it was happening in real time, the first thing
(21:33):
that I was thinking was how is Isra are going
to respond to this? And initial reports indicate it will
be a heavy response.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Trey, It'll be a heavy response. That's something that came
up and last night in the debate between Vance and Waltz,
I mean, can you just give us a sense as
to how is the current sentiment right now in Israel
about the support that they have received, or perhaps lack
of support on some areas. When it comes to the
(22:03):
Biden administration and what their approach has been since October seventh, particularly.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
It's interesting because you get a variety of responses, and
you know, we talked to everyone involved, from the commandos
who are currently in southern Lebanon to the soldiers that
were fighting over the past year in Gaza, to Israel's
Defense Minister Jov Galand and there is a common sentiment
among Israeli officials of frustration as it relates to the
relationship with the United States. They're thankful for some support
(22:34):
and frustrated with other support. And I'll just give you
one example. Back in the middle of the war between
Israel and Hamas and Gaza, remember that the Biden administration
slowed the weapon shipments to Israel. They were still allowing
certain ammunition and certain bombs to make their way to Israel,
but others were put on pause temporarily, and there was
frustration among the Israelis because those bombs weren't for Gaza.
(22:57):
They were to basically target Hasbel of positions war that
we're watching unfold now, and so behind the scenes, the
relationship continues. It's very close, and their coordination is also
quite high when you think about even the response last
night as these ballistic missiles were streaming through the sky.
US Central Command was involved in shooting some of them down.
(23:18):
But publicly there can be some disagreements, and that's part
of the story that we cover here, but we're mostly
focused on the day to day actions on the ground
and what's taking place amid the war now that's unfolding
in the northern part of the country.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
We're talking to Trey Yanks, chief foreign correspondent for Fox
on the Ground in Israel. The book that he has
Black Saturday and Unfiltered account of the October seventh attack
on Israel and the war in Gaza, was released yesterday. Trey,
what was your experience like on October seventh? Where were you,
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How did you become aware of what was happening, and
what was that day like for someone in Israel in
your experience?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
So, I got a call on October seventh at seven
o three am in the morning from my producer and
she said, something's happening in the south, And normally when
something's happening in the South, it's a rocket attack. And
we knew that rockets were being fired not only in
southern Israel but also into central Israel, and so we
thought this was sort of the status quo of an
(24:20):
attack from Gaza launched by Hamas or Islamic Jihad. Maybe
there was something that we missed, and this was the
initial thought process. Maybe there was a targeted assassination that
the Israelis took out a commander. Something didn't make sense.
And as we got closer to the Gaza border to
start reporting in the location that we always report from,
we slowly started to piece together what was happening. And
(24:42):
when we stopped at one intersection and got out of
the car, we could hear gunfire in the distance, and
this was the first major sign that something was wrong,
something was different. And as we reported throughout the day,
that intersection turned into a treoce point and we watched
soldiers and civilians wounded by gunfire gone in front of us.
Some died, others were taken to hospitals in southern Israeli cities,
(25:05):
and a war erupted between Israel and Hamat that still
continues today.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Trey in the book, I know you get into some
of this, but you know there was we were heartbroken here.
We covered October seventh, you know, from thousands of miles away,
but it was felt all too real and horrific just
as the details came in for all of us, including
everyone listening all over the country. What do you want
(25:35):
people to know about what happened that day? And I
mean there were some people who came out in the
media and elsewhere afterwards to say, well, some aspects of
what was initially claimed were unverified, or there was some
exaggeration or anything like that. I wanted you, as somebody
who's on the ground and has seen and been to
(25:58):
these places yourself, what is true and what is not
about the commentary that came out after October seventh.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I think there are a lot of people who have
opinions about the war that's unfolding, and I'm not one
of those people. I carry very few opinions about this
conflict or others. We're focused on the facts on the ground,
and that's what you'll see when you read Black Saturday,
and it's also what you'll see when you watch Fox
and you see our reports live from the ground in
not only this war zone, but war zones around the world.
(26:29):
The morning of October seventh was quite confusing from an
information standpoint, and I was very careful with what we
were gathering and also very careful with what we were
putting out to the public, understanding that this was such
a real, time breaking new situation that I needed to
be patient with a lot of the information. And that's
a critical point that I make in the book, and
it's something that I really believe in. It's patients and
(26:49):
information because I'd rather be right than first. And it
doesn't matter if it's covering the war between Israel and
Hamas and the times that we were entering the Gaza strip,
or if it's the war that's unfolding now between Israel
and Hezbolah. When people talk about this conflict, I think
there's another really important thing to remember, and this probably
(27:10):
gets more to the core of your question. The October
seventh massacre was the largest slaughter of Jews since the Holocaust.
That is an objective fact. The Israeli response against Gaza
has led to the highest depth toll among Palestinian civilians
in the history of their people. These are two facts
that are true at the same time, and that's why
I encourage people to have empathy for those who are
(27:32):
affected by this war. Because there are millions of people
in the region. They have a variety of the viewpoints,
they have a variety of opinions, and they do a
variety of different actions. And so often when people talk
about the Middle East, or they talk about Israelis and Palestinians,
they want to very quickly put people into two camps.
But the reality is, and I talk about this in
Black Saturday, is that the people who live on the
ground here and experience this every day exist on a spectrum.
(27:55):
And I think the only information that you should trust
about what is happening as it relates to the war
in Gaza or the war that's taking place right now
between Israeli Hesbla is information that properly covers all viewpoints,
that gives you a true understanding of the complexities and
the uncomfortable truths about war. Because war is not pretty,
(28:16):
it's complicated, it's complex. But at the end of the day,
we have to get to the bottom line facts because
if you don't, and we saw this throughout the past year,
it can lead to other consequences that have really serious implications,
not just for the region, but for the whole world.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Trey. We talk a lot about post traumatic stress for
soldiers when they return from places where they've deployed based
on what they've seen. I'm curious for you and other
reporters and other individuals who are civilians who are outside
of combat roles. How do you process, contemplate and remain
able to do your job based on what you have seen?
(28:55):
And how do you manage that? And what have you
found to work? And what would you say to maybe
somebody out there who is listening to us right now,
and maybe they're a kid and one day they think, Hey,
I'd like to be a journalist like Trey, is what
have you learned?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Well? I tell my team something very often, and it's
something that I tell myself very often. It's actually the
background of my phone and it's stay focused on the mission.
And that's something that guides me remembering what my mission is,
and that is to provide fair, objective, and truthful journalism
to our audience and to my readers. But it's challenging
to cover a story like this. We witness death and
(29:32):
destruction firsthand, and I think on a high level, it's
remembering to be empathetic and understanding of everyone involved in
the stories that we cover and try to get to
the core of why people do what they do, and
on a more simple level, it's seemed horrific things and
then knowing that you need to process the aftermath of
(29:52):
that in a healthy way, not turning to drugs and
alcohol to deal with the thoughts that you have and
the memories that you have of the scenes not only
in southern Israel but also in Gaza. And for me,
that's cold exposure, that's eating healthy, that's working out. That
is talking about mental health and not being afraid to
discuss it, because I think that's also a critical component
(30:14):
in all of this. And if you're listening and you're
someone who is afraid to talk about mental health, I'd
encourage you to speak to your friends, speak to your
loved ones, speak to a trained professional ticke at therapist.
You don't have to be afraid to talk about your mind.
And it doesn't make you less cool, It doesn't make
you any less afraid than we all are to be
here in this life and on earth. And for me,
(30:37):
I think that it has been an opportunity to be
able to talk about mental health because I think a
lot of people watch what we do, and they see
us go into these battle zones and embedded with militaries
and on the front lines of conflict around the world,
and they say, Wow, that guy, he's cool. He's there,
he's on the front lines. He's seen it. And I
want to be a voice for people who are afraid
to speak out about mental health and say, look, I
(30:58):
talk about it. You can talk about it too, and
you can go a step further. Not only talk about it,
but you can think of healthy ways to handle your mind.
You can do the coote exposure, you can do the
working out, the running, and you can try to have
a healthy lifestyle so that you can create an environment
for yourself to flourish and be the best version of yourself.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Trey yanks He is the chief foreign correspondent for Fox
on the Ground in Israel, the author of Black Saturday,
Unfiltered account of the October seventh attack on Israel in
the War on Got War in Gaza in bookstores now,
we appreciate your time. Stay safe.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Look, I want to tell you, speaking of what Trey
has seen in Israel, certainly there are still people who
have very vivid memories of What happened in this country
On September eleventh, and last weekend was the annual Tunnel
to Towers five K Run and Walk in New York City.
Our producer Ali and her husband Gerard did it, along
with tens of thousands of fellow patriots. The event retraces
(31:56):
firefighters Steven Siller's footsteps from the foot of the Battery
Tunnel to the Twin Towers where he raced on nine
to eleven to try to save lives and in the
process sacrificed his own. Stevens brother, Frank Seller, friend of
the show, started the five K, which pays homage to
the three hundred and forty three FDNY firefighters, law enforcement officers,
(32:18):
thousands of civilians who lost their lives that day. If
you're watching on the live stream, you'll see the video
that Ali shot, which we also shared on social media.
It was pouring rain that day, but it didn't stop
the nearly forty thousand participants from coming together and doing
the event. Proceeds support Tunnel to Towers programs, including those
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benefiting first responders catastrophically injured service members. They have events
all year round. I'm going to be up helping to
raise money at their golf outing in a couple of weeks.
You can go find an event near you at T
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them for the incredible work they're doing, just like both
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Speaker 3 (33:16):
All right, team, we're closing up shop here on play
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You've got the new Carol Marquitz and Mary Katherine Ham
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Parnell who's going to be guest hosting the show after
Thanksgiving on what do you call a Friday after Thanksgiving?
Good for black Friday? Yeah, sorry, Friday Deals. Yeah, you
got me on the spot. I was gonna say good Friday,
which would.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
I almost said?
Speaker 3 (33:53):
It's so funny I almost said good Friday. That's why
I called myself and I was like, wait, what, it's
not Good Friday, Black Friday. So yeah, we're having great podcasts.
We definitely help you check all of that out. And Clay,
you know, we haven't really followed up much with today
on the North Carolina hurricane, you know, aftermath situation. I
(34:17):
have seen some stories about people who have finally been
able to get to their dogs. Some dogs people were
separated from them over the course of the storm, weren't
allowed to go back to their homes. Looks like people
are now being allowed to be a little bit more
mobile than they have been. There was a piece of
the New York Post but a guy who had a
helicopter and was just using his helicopter to save people,
(34:38):
and some local officials said, I'm going to rescue unless
you stop flying your helicopter around saving people. So we
got to keep an eye on how some of this
government stuff is going here, because look, what you saw
during COVID is that the government will do idiotic things
poorly and use its force not to save people, but
(35:01):
to make it harder for us to save each other.
And that's that's a very painful but very important lesson
that we saw during COVID, and I think the fact
that you have the administration you do right now overseeing
the federal effort means that we got to keep an eye.
I got to keep an eye on this stuff. I'm
sure there're a lot of good folks out there are
doing great work and trying to help out. I mean
(35:22):
from the leadership level, though, I mean, I'm hearing some
weird things about preventing people from getting back to their homes,
not letting people get out on the roads, not letting people,
you know, move freely. You know. It's it's like a
little pandemic esque in terms of we're just going to
make up rules and you have to obey them.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Not only that, I mean again with the longshoreman strike,
the fact that we're going to have two major interstates
it appears shut down for months I forty and I
believe I twenty five or I twenty six in that area.
We don't have the best minds working on this right
now in our government. Thanks to you, Elon, there may
be at least some starlink service for people out there
(36:04):
who are in North Carolina and East Tennessee and need help.
But we got to keep all these people thoughts, prayers,
and also if you have the resources to be able
to support, please do so because the government's not getting
everything done to take care of all these people.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, so anything you can do to help out in
that area. And I'm checking in with family up there
every day just to see that the recovery efforts are
moving along and see how they're helping their neighbors. So
we have not forgotten at all about what's going on
in North Carolina and the surrounding states that got hit hard.
We'll be able to bring you more updates about what's
going on here at home and abroad tomorrow. So play.
(36:42):
We have an election in a few weeks. People are
gonna start voting soon. Early voting soons coming up. Great,
a lot of you already are. It's wild. Thanks for
hanging with us. We'll be back with you tomorrow breaking
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