January 1, 2025 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy New Year. This is the best of show with
Clay and Buck. The Daniel Penny verdict.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We were very pleased to see the jury came to
what we both believe here is absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
The right decision, which was a not guilty verdict.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And after the judge dismissed the top count and we
also had the arrest of this guy, Luigi.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
And there have been a lot of memes about this.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Luigi MANGIONI who it seems very you know, I know
it is alleged, but I mean they found the guy
with the weapon. I mean, this is Colonel Mustard with
the candlestick in the solarium on video. Basically, I mean
this is very much looking like they have the guy.
But he allegedly killed the United Healthcare CEO. And there's
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a lot of talk about this online. We'll get into
some of it. Also, more on the big the big
Trump picks for the cabinet right now, the ones that
are getting attention, particularly Pete Hegseeth Cash puttell RFK Junior,
you may get rid of your beloved die in.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Your mountain dew. Mister Clay, you aware of this.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I think yellow number whatever it is maybe a thing
of the past, your mountain dew might become clear. Is
clear mountain dew not as exciting to you?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It certainly is not. That's just sprite with less sugar.
So I've been trying to give up sodas and in
favor of coffee and Crockett coffee in particular. I think
that's the right decision from a healthcare perspective. But yeah,
this is gonna be intriguing to see. I actually will
(01:41):
talk about this more. I'm actually feeling really good about
every one of Trump's nominees getting through at this point.
I think everybody's kind of getting in line. The HEG
set momentum is very good, and I'm not even seeing
really much organized opposition since the HEG sets stuff has started.
To you and I talked about as soon as they
move from oh, he's guilty of sexual assault to he
(02:03):
occasionally drinks a beer when he's on television, maybe a
sign that they weren't having a lot of success in
tearing him down.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yes, and the troops that have come forward, including those
who served many who served with him, overwhelming support from them.
A lot of people in the special operations community also
coming forward to.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Say that they want Pete hegsett that he is the guy.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I do think that there has there's been a there's
a backlash there, and it makes sense to me, why
against the military institutionalist who has really been effectively a
politician with stars on his shoulders, or perhaps even worse,
a board member of Rayfion or Boeing or Lockheed or whatever.
(02:51):
That that's what you have to be to run the Pentagon.
A warfighter running the Pentagon is something that a lot
of warfighters want to see right now.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So that that's seeming to go through, which is a
good thing. I want to start on this claim.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I keep wondering when we're going to see what the
hashtag resistance is. And let me be clear, there was
almost nothing from BLM last night.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
In I mean I didn't see anything. Actually in New York.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
There were some people saying some things outside the courtroom,
but there were no riots, and we didn't expect there
to be. We said, it feels like that is an
exhausted mobilization for the left. Well, I keep waiting for
them to figure out what their opposition is going to
be and how they're going to try to stymy the
(03:37):
Trump agenda. In terms of the narrative right, and really
a move to sanity, a move toward the center. Clay
feels kind of inevitable, I would think, but maybe not.
This is cut for AOC who I perhaps have been
naive enough to think is less of a I think
Jesse Kellyer first to it as a street communist, our friend, Jesse,
(03:59):
I like that term, less of street communist, less of
somebody who is out there as kind of a community organizer, activist,
rabble rouser another way of saying it, a rabble.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Rouser that she's been moving toward leadership. No, she's still crazy. Actually,
here she is on the Daniel Penny thing. This is
cut forward play it if we do.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Not want violence on our subways, and the point of
our justice system is a level of accountability to prevent
a person who does not have remorse about taking another
person's life. I mean, even people who have engaged in
nanslaughters or have taken a life accidentally expressed remorse. And
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so the fact that a person has made expressed no
remorse indicates that there's a risk that it may happen again.
And if we do not want to unleash that level
of violence, then we should exert a level of accountability
to prevent that from.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Happening again, as if Clay locking up Daniel Penny would
make the subways safer. She didn't get the memo that
the jury put out.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Here's a question for you, and I'm not sure what
my answer is. Is Daniel Penny a twenty four to
forty eight hour story for the left and they just
kind of move on because there isn't really any kind
of rallying cry associated with him? Or is this something
that lingers because sometimes there are jury results that it
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seems like it's going to be a big story and
then a couple of days later we move on and
people don't really care that much. Or is this going
to be one that lasts for some time and becomes
a form of rallying cry for the left. My inclination
is that while they may say crazy things like what
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AOC just said, it's really the twenty four hour news cycle,
and deep down they know this is not a story
that lingers in a positive way for them, and so
they abandoned it. Otherwise, there are other stories that I
frankly didn't expect to last as long as they did
that did right, Like they decided January sixth was the
worst day in America since the Civil War, and they
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made it a thing for years and years. Daniel Penny,
do you think it's something that lasts that people go
back to, that remains evocative going forward, or do you
think this is a story that forty eight hours from now,
basically nobody left or right really talks about anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I think that this one goes, meaning that it fauls away.
I think that this isn't.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
What they need as a rallying cry.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Here's the thing, people on the street. People on the street.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Especially in New York, are really tired of the maniacs
who have been arrested fifty times, who are urinating and
defecating on the subway, who are spitting in people's moms
faces and grandmothers and knocking them down.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
New Yorkers are actually tired of that. It's beyond the
political now in terms of parties and shit. I mean,
there's still some lunatic Democrats, but now it's only the
lunatic Democrats. It's AOC, it's that maniac Taylor Lorenz who
was at the Washington Post. These are the kind of
people who's still adhere to what had been that Democrat orthodoxy.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I think it's been a huge change.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Normal people, including there are normal Democrats. I know, sounds
like exactly if there are lots of normal Democrats wrong
on some ideas, but saying they see this play and
they say to themselves, enough is enough.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, And I think that's probably the ultimate takeaway. In
the short term, you get outrageous statements like what we
just played from AOC, but it's almost like she's saying
that to try to stay in the good graces of
the left inner party, and then they'll just allow this
to vanish because actual normal people want safe subways. And
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when you actually acknowledge the facts of this case and
examine them, there wasn't much here. And I think even
the lack of BLM protests buck they were really good
at mobilizing people to protest anytime they basically called for it.
We played that yesterday. The leaders of New York City's
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BLM movement said, we basically need to have protests and
there need to be consequences for this decision by this jury,
and then nothing happened. And I think, you know, it's
one thing when you say, hey, we're going to basically
just decide not to come out and try to rally
about this, but they made a pretty public proclamation that
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they wanted there to be some consequences for this jury verdict.
Nothing happened. Nobody really showed up in New York City.
It makes you wonder. And again, I know we're not
allowed to go back in time and re examine this stuff.
I still want to know how they were able to
mobilize so many people with the BLM riots of the
summer of twenty twenty. There was money behind that. Remember
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how mysteriously all the riot gear would just show up
suddenly there was a truck that was pulling in with
all the two by fours and all the crow bars
and everything that people would end up rioting with. There
was a lot of money behind that. Trump was in office,
but there doesn't seem to be any mass mobilization that's
occurring against Trump. I think the failure of any real
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opposition by and large to his cabinet nominees. The left
is beaten and weak. I think right now, well.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
That's exactly what I'm feeling, which is I cannot remember.
I'm gonna tell you all that I'm gonna be honest
with you since I've been doing this, since I've been
in the world of media and not the world of
you know, the intelligence community, I've never felt like the
Left was just just so deflated and and just beaten.
(09:52):
You know, it's like they got nothing. I don't know
who is the leader, what is the narrative, what is
the story, and so on the good side of things,
I think the this means that Trump has more leeway
for the agenda from go than at any other time,
certainly than even including the beginning of twenty sixteen. I
think he has like the blank slate as much as
one can have one. But you know, he's got the
(10:14):
clear space, I would say, to really do big things play.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I don't even know what the Democrats are offering people.
I watched Morning Joe this morning. Honestly, I shouldn't admit
this stuff. It was like watching local news. They're like, yeah,
the Daniel Penny case, Yeah, this guy got arrested for
the United Healthcare CEO. Really no commentary because I think
they don't know what they're supposed to tell their audience anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
What Hitler's going to be president? Hitler won you know
that's not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I think they're panicking because Fox News now has over
seventy percent of the news audience, and their game plan
is not working in the wake of the Trump big win.
It's not only their influence that's diminished, is that their
audience doesn't trust them, and so I think there's a
bit of floundering. Did we play the audio of your
good buddy Morning Joe going off on his audience for
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being too critical of him. It's a sign that you're floundering.
It's one thing if he goes off on Trump's audience,
or he goes off on Republicans who are not otherwise
watching a show. They've now devolved to the point buck
where they're yelling at the few remaining viewers they actually
have and basically saying they don't understand the brilliance of
a guy like Joe Scarborough.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I'm gonna tell you you know where. You know where.
I think they they rally and they dig in.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
If Trump and the Trump team really go with a
massively accelerated deportation program, yes, this is where the identity politics,
the race politics, the class all of that all of
a sudden has this huge resurgence. But that's a central
that's the central promise of Trump two point zero is
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to start that and get that process in motion. So
that's what I think almost they're waiting for, because right now, Clay, they've.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Just got nothing. It's it's almost sad.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
They're gonna a couple of kids that are getting deported,
maybe they get separated from their parents, and they're gonna
use that as the stand in for why Trump's deportations
are racist and xenophobic and completely unacceptable. I think you're right.
I think that's the hill that they're going to decide
to die on.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I was I always say closing up shop because it
sounded like it, but no, I was actually just drinking
in some of those amazing Christmas tunes there for a second,
really enjoying that one. We've got a few things we
can we can dive into here coming up, Clay. And
I'm also wondering if anybody has any particularly good Christmas
(12:44):
cocktail recommendations out there. I did, do we have the pistati,
We did have the pistachio martini.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I don't even know are there. I mean eggnog obviously
is a staple. We've got an OutKick Christmas party going
on a little bit tonight in Nashville's not a big event,
but but it'll be a little bit fun hopefully.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Eggnog for those of us who are trying to watch
the calories to try to get a little less. Dad
bought in advance of dadhood. So I'm raising my hand
over here. Eggnog is prutal. Eggnog is like is like
a milkshake with alcohol. It's like an eggie milkshake with
alcohol thrown into it. However, I think it's deliciousness is
definitely beyond question.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
It is quite delicious. I would say eggnog is a
possibility spiced cider for those who like that.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
To me or I guess spiked spiced cider would be
the way that it goes. Can't miss on that one.
I think that's kind of a holiday classic. You put
it in the crystal bowl and a little ladle. No,
he Clay is making a face like I just like
pulled out some step.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I've never had that.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I don't know why you would drink something that you
ordinarily would not drink at a holiday party.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
You know what I mean? Thanksgiving? My friend? What about tradition?
We're not communists here? Come on.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Well, I don't know that there's a dr That's what
I'm saying. I don't know that there's an eggnag. I
guess is the closest thing to a Christmas staple that
otherwise you can't find anywhere else. But I to your point, like,
I don't think that many people actually like eggnog, and
I don't feel like it's actually that widely available now.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
At parties, producer Greg comes out with hot Toddy, which
is something that whenever I've had like a cold or
a sore throat and for some reason them out at
a bar, which is not a good idea people have
tried to make me drink. I don't know of a
hot tot. Hot Toddy is kind of a year round. Well,
it's a cold weather drink for sure. I'm not sure
people think of it as a Christmas specific drink though.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I just stick with the.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Drinks that you know, and and and I will say,
I bet there's some incredible awkward holiday party stories out
there in this audience. Maybe we can get into that
on Thursday, on your final day of of the weed, oh,
because I bet there's some amazing ones.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
D John, do you know John, lefev Is. He's the
guy who started the Goldman Sacks Twitter account and years ago.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Do you remember that the elevator.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Not not the real sorry, not the Golden Sacks actually looking,
but like the parody account gs elevator. I had him
on podcasts recently. Very sharp guy, very smart guy. Very
pro Trump guy too.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
By the way.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
And it was interesting though, because he put out on
X a list of Chris like for the for the
corporate audience, you know, corporate America, people that work in offices,
you know, the office Christmas party phenomenon.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
He put out a list for dues and don'ts. It
was a good list.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I gotta say, which was don't you don't don't arrive
late to the office Christmas party. Arrive on time for
the office Christmas party. Don't have more than two drinks
at the office Christmas party. Talk to the seniors early
because they're gonna leave because the more junior staff are
going to stay and let loose a little bit. And
everybody knows that. So you know, he had all these
r was. I gotta say, it's it's good because I
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may have been at one or two. Not not to
get a currently not the current to anyone I work for.
But back in the day, and back when I worked
in the government, clay some office parties get a little
out of head Christmas time get a little wild. Can
we check it on MSNBC for a second. Here, I'm sorry,
I know this is this is.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Like am I am?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I addicted to hate hate Watching MSNBC and CNN.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I start to wonder about this.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
My wife, we were out to dinner with some friends
last night, and and when I told them that I
watched Morning Joe every morning, pretty much every morning, they.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
They were a gas.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I said, what, You've got to be kidding me, How
do you I don't know. You don't understand. It's amazing.
They're so it's it's insane there, it's it's all a performance.
They don't believe anything they're saying. It's it's this is great.
You have to know what you're watching. Wasn't there isn't
there like a play where it's all about is it
the is it the producers? Where things all fall apart?
(16:58):
I never saw that right, But it's a lot like
watching The point of the show for me is that
is watching the disaster. It's the slow moving train wreck
that is MSNBC in general and Morning Joe in particular,
and I do derive some real joy from watching this
play out.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
But we have a bit of news on this.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Donald Trump got Times Person of the Year, you know,
don't I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I think a lot of people still.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Wonder if Time magazine even exists, and it's a fair questioning, wait,
did they still do that thing? Apparently they do the
Time Magazine's Person of the Year fifty years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I think people cared about this. Now it's just kind
of kind of a gimmick. I mean, it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
They said it's Donald Trump, which is unsurprising and I
think well deserved, because this guy pulled off the greatest
political comeback of our lifetime by far. I've never heard
of or seen anything like this in certainly in you know,
living memory, maybe go back in history. I don't know
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if you've ever had a comeback like this before. Somebody
who survives two assassination attempts for criminal prosecutions comes back
after the events of January sixth, and the effort to
use that through the committees and everything else to destroy him.
You know you know what I mean, it's it's it's remarkable.
It's it's a truly incredible story. And even Time Magazine
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has noticed this. And you know who's very unhappy about.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
It, Joy Reid, Joy Reid.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
You gotta hear this. This, Oh man, she's having it.
She's having a real time of it over at MSNBC.
This has cut sixteen play.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
It, as Time Magazine describes it, For ninety seven years,
the editors of Time have been picking the person of
the Year, the individual who, for better or for worse,
did the most to shape the world and the headlines
over the past twelve months. In many years, choice is
a difficult one. In twenty twenty four, it was not.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
The key line for better or for worse is not
much of a ringing endorsement. And we all know which
one Trump falls under. And let's remember who else has
been given this title in years past in the same category.
Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Iyatolajoe Mami, and Vladimir Putin, oh
distinction twice.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Just like Trump, she's a mate.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
She can we just respect how consistently insane she is.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
It's a it's fascinating. This is great TV. You just
have to approach it. It's not news it's.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Not insight, it's wow, look at what's going on here.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Over at MSNBC, you're also watching.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It's like watching a failed state collapse or something.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You know, You're just like, this is crazy, what's going
on over there? And they don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Finally, the their Berlin Wall has come and down. Over
at MSNBC, the commissars are ordering people around back in Moscow,
and no one's paying attention. You know, no one's showing
up to the factories to pretend to work so the
Soviets can pretend.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
To pay them. And this is what's going on MSNBC.
They're just what are they even gonna do?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Oh, Donald Trump got Time Person of the Year, just
like Hitler, Stalin and Putin and over at MSNBC, they
think Trump is worse than all three combined. You know what,
at this point, they should just bring back Olberman, you
know what I mean, just just go all in on
the crazy. Just decide that it's time to go all
in with looney tunes.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Olberman and I have them all.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
There's the end of our democracy. And I have used
Athosaurus to throw a bunch of big words into my
hissy fit.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
It would be fantastic stuff. I'm just telling you, you
know who else is very upset about this. I'm just
having fun with this one today. I'm sorry. It's almost
the weekend. You know, we're kicking back. We're seeing what's
going on. The Democrat media flailing everywhere. They got nothing.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
There's not even like a center of competency or stability
for them.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I've never seen that in my entire life in.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
The media now going on fifteen years, I have never
seen anything like this where they're just they're just panicked,
you know that they don't know what are they gonna do,
What are they gonna say. They've told us that this
guy is Hitler and then he should go to prison
for the rest of his life. And he just kicked
their butts in an election, Like, how do you how
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do you do that?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
How do you notice?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
By the way, you know, the conservative media, whether it
was this show or Fox News or any other.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Conservative shows that are out there, we weren't telling you.
And I said this to you.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
You can go back and you remember said, look, if
the Democrats somehow pull this off, it's depressing for America,
but we'll live to fight another day.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
We figure it out. We deal with it and we
move forward. You know, that's it. There's such a bunch
of cry babies. And speaking of here's don Lemon. This
is cut seventeen. Time Magazine. What are you doing?
Speaker 8 (22:04):
Let me ask you, Time Magazine, what do you say
to the women who I guess still read Time Magazine.
You have someone on the cover of your magazine who
is an adjudicated assaulter. You have someone who inspired an insurrection.
You have someone who, without a doubt the evidence is there,
try to overturn a free and fair election. You had
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someone who had multiple criminal counts and found guilty on
multiple criminal counts and you name them person of the year.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Is this a joke? Do we get something wrong? Did
someone scam us? Are we sure about this? Producers?
Speaker 8 (22:40):
There is a convicted felon on the cover of Time
magazine as the person of the Year.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Maybe we're being scammed. I hope he keeps this up.
I hope all of them keep this up. He's adjudicated assaulter,
and he's an insurrection and a hitler and fascis him.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And just just keep it going, Just keep it going,
because you know what this Trump team's coming in dialed
in ready to go with a real agenda and an
understanding of what needs to get done, and they're going
after it fast.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Think about some of the some of the pieces that
they have in play.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
We've had the defection of the most prominent member of
the Kennedy family to not just the Republicans, but to
Trump specifically with Rfk Junior. And Democrats love political dynasties,
as we know, so that's that really stings. The richest
man in the world and the most impressive CEO in
the world, Elon Musk, is reportedly looking at places to
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live in Palm Beach so he can be there a
lot more and spend more time with Trump and the
mar A Lago team. And I assume he'll get a
place in DC. He can get a place places everywhere.
It's worth three hundred billion dollars. You see that, the
first person to ever reached that mark of personal wealth ever.
And at the way things are going, and he may
become the world's first trillionaire. We now have trillion dollar
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companies like Apple, but he may be the world's first
trillionaire personally. So that's and he's on our team, right
And and then you add and you got Hegseat.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And and and uh.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Gabbard and Ramaswami and and I'll get into a little
bit more Tom Homan. By the way, he's I don't
want to put too much pressure on on Tom, you know, he's.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
His approach to things reminds me a little.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Bit of the portrait you get of Ulysses Grant and
ron Chernow's magnificent biography of him where and I.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Know that's that's that's big shoes for for Tom to fill.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
But I just mean Grant was so humble and unassuming,
but competent and mission focused all the time.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
And that was.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Part and and people really, especially after the victory at
at Vicksburg, you know, he became this national figure and
Lincoln brings him in, puts him in charge. He becomes
lieutenant and brings him in to run the whole thing
lieutenant General of the Union Army, and and everyone just
wants to shake his hand and hug him and tell
him how great he is.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
And he just kind of addresses.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Casually and walks around and is not an imposing figure
and just wants to get the mission done. And I
just feel like that that part of Tom Homan really
comes across to me, he's just a guy who wants
to do what is necessary for the country and to
secure our border and to enforce our laws and to give.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Us back national sovereignty. And it's not a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Of you know about fanfare, and it's not a lot
of trying to you know.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Get the big book deal or all the pats on
the back.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
He just does it because it's the mission and you
really like to see that, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Anyway, there's so many good people.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I think Marco Rubio is going to be very competent
Secretary of State, very solid, and I think that you've
got a really just an excellent team across the board
that's coming in.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
You know, Stephen Miller going to be the deputy White
House Chief of Staff.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I mean, that guy is just a The policy knowledge
and brain power that he brings to the game is
so impressive. So you've got all these great people coming
in and Democrats are still just in.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
They're still processing the loss.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Which is why I think talking to you about like
Joy Reid and Don Lemon and Joe Scarborough and all
these different voices out there. And I keep asking my
conservative friends this as well, who is who is the
most powerful voice for the Democrats right now. And this
is part of what it is. Movements need leaders, right,
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organizations need leaders.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Movements need leaders. Who is the leader of the Democrat
Party going into twenty twenty five? You can throw out
some names.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I think people are underestimating what they're going to be
able to pull off with elevating AOC. I know she's
a communist and all the you know, Obama was president
for eight years. Everybody, okay, so being a Marxist at
heart is by no means an impediment to or a block.
I should say, maybe it's an impediment from the presidency.
I think they'll be uh. AOC is going to be
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a big part of the Democrat Party's future. I think
that she has actually evolved and matured as a Democrat,
as a leftist to be. You know, she she throws
out less think about it. She throws out less stupid
soundbites that we all just make fun of all day long.
She's become a little more disciplined. You know this is
she was very young when she took that seat in Congress.
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And remember she beat a very established Democrat to do it,
very entrenched Democrat. So I think people are underestimating her
as you know, for her team, for her party. And
then when you start to throw out these other names,
come on, well, what are we really talking about here?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
You know, who are we throw into the mix?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Gaven Newsom is not gonna happen, no matter how many
shirt buttons he unbuttons out.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Of the beach drinking chardonnay.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
If Clay was here, he might be able to defend Gavenuwsom,
but no one's defending him. Now there's there's It's not
gonna be Gavin Newsom. It's not going to be It's
not gonna be Gretchen Wittmer. I don't think she has
I just don't think she has the appeal of the
skill set. So Democrats have no one to rally behind
in politics. And then also on the media side, Rachel
maddowt unless you were delusional, this destroyed whatever credibility even
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as a leftist that she had. With all this Russia
stuff and all the craziness and going along with the
overall MSNBC line about Trump is fascism. We're going to
see with our own eyes just how absurd the Trump
is fascism thing is. The country is going to really
dare I say, be in a process of healing. Oh, yes,
(28:35):
I think it's going to be much better. I think
the immigration issue is going to get really hot. I
do think so. I think that's going to be a challenge.
And that's where I see the empire strike back effect.
You could have that be the rallying cry for Democrats
when you if you really ramp up the deportations in
a way that Trump has said they will, but they
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have no one to turn to right now. I've even
said that on social media. Who is the formidable Democrat
that I would even care to debate? Who would it
even be worthwhile to get into with somebody who's a
really committed leftist. I don't mean somebody like a Bill
Maher who's open to different ideas and stuff and has
a platform where you can actually have the left and
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the right, you know, meet at least face to face.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
In some way.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
There's very few of those. Piers Morgan's been Look, he's
got a brilliant strategy for his show right now, and
Clay was just on a few days ago and the
segment went viral. Just have the craziest leftist democrats you
can on air, and they're gonna go viral.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Because they're nuts, you know. And Peers is like, oh, like,
are you really this insane? Like, oh you really this crazy?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
And they're like, yes, Piers, I am this insane. I
am this crazy, and they just say the wildest stuff.
So I've never experienced this before where they don't have
it's like their whole army in a sense, their political
army has been swept away and they have to rebuild.
The Democrat rebuilding right now is unlike anything else we've
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ever seen. I know it's not going to last. I
know it's temporary, but here's the good news. It also
creates their crisis creates opportunity, opportunity for Trump the incoming
administration to do big things. They are not as organized,
they are not They're not as capable of the obstruction
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and the media narratives and the dirty tricks and all
these things they've done in the past. So we really
need Trump and the team to come in and we
need day one j six pardons, massive deportation, escalation, removal
of all kinds of crappy Biden executive orders that have
made things worse for everybody. I mean, it's got to
just be like a Swiss watch right away and you know,
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precise focused and frosty, and I think that we have
a really good chance of it.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I want
to play this for you. React to it. On the
flip side, Trumpell was asked about whether or not he
might give a pardon to Eric Adams, mayor of New
York City. This is what he said about that a
little bit earlier today at mor Lago parking area.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Meads, yeah, I would.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (31:18):
I think that he was treated pretty unfairly. Now I
haven't seen the gravity of it all, but it seems,
you know, like being upgraded in an airplane many years ago.
I know probably everybody here has been upgrade. They see
your all stars and they say, I want to upgrade
that person from NBC. I'm going to upgrade him, and
that would mean you'll spend the rest of your life
in prison.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I don't know somehow I would.
Speaker 9 (31:40):
I mean, i'd have to see it, because I don't
know the facts. I think he was treated. You know,
it's very interesting when he essentially went against what was
happening with the migrants coming in, and you know, he
made some pretty strong statements like this is not sustainable.
I said, you know what, he'll be indicted soon. And
I said it not as a prediction, a little bit lightheartedly,
but I said it.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I said, he's going to be indicted and.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
A few months later got indicted.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
So yeah, I would certainly look at it.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I think this buck would be a really smart move
we've set on this show January sixth. Pardons to me
are a no brainer. Question is every single one or not?
I mean, that's an interesting debate you could get into,
but a lot of them. Yes, I would pardon Eric Adams,
and I would do it on the first day, go
ahead and set a bypart as an example of trying
(32:27):
to clean the deck on law fair.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yes, and I think that there's also an opportunity here
to help Eric Adams stay in place for the next
mayor's term. It's going to be a long shot right now,
but with the idea that he is going to be
very good on primarily the illegal immigration issue. He's not
red pilled, but he may be playing a role here.
(32:55):
And I also think that it's the right thing to
do for Trump to consider a pardon for him because
he is being hit because he defected from Team Lunatic
Happy New Year. This is the best of show with
Clay and Buck. The Daniel Penny verdict.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We were very pleased to see the jury came to
what we both believe here is absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
The right decision, which was a not guilty verdict.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And after the judge dismissed the top count and we
also had the arrest of this guy, Luigi.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
And there have been a lot of memes about this.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Luigi MANGIONI who it seems very you know, I know
it is alleged, but I mean they found the guy
with the weapon. I mean, this is Colonel Mustard with
the candlestick in the solarium on video. Basically, I mean
this is very much looking like they have the guy.
But he allegedly killed the United Healthcare CEO. And there's
(00:48):
a lot of talk about this online. We'll get into
some of it. Also, more on the big the big
Trump picks for the cabinet right now, the ones that
are getting attention, particularly Pete Hegseeth Cash puttell RFK Junior,
you may get rid of your beloved die in.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Your mountain dew. Mister Clay, you aware of this.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I think yellow number whatever it is maybe a thing
of the past, your mountain dew might become clear. Is
clear mountain dew not as exciting to you?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It certainly is not. That's just sprite with less sugar.
So I've been trying to give up sodas and in
favor of coffee and Crockett coffee in particular. I think
that's the right decision from a healthcare perspective. But yeah,
this is gonna be intriguing to see. I actually will
(01:41):
talk about this more. I'm actually feeling really good about
every one of Trump's nominees getting through at this point.
I think everybody's kind of getting in line. The HEG
set momentum is very good, and I'm not even seeing
really much organized opposition since the HEG sets stuff has started.
To you and I talked about as soon as they
move from oh, he's guilty of sexual assault to he
(02:03):
occasionally drinks a beer when he's on television, maybe a
sign that they weren't having a lot of success in
tearing him down.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yes, and the troops that have come forward, including those
who served many who served with him, overwhelming support from them.
A lot of people in the special operations community also
coming forward to.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Say that they want Pete hegsett that he is the guy.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I do think that there has there's been a there's
a backlash there, and it makes sense to me, why
against the military institutionalist who has really been effectively a
politician with stars on his shoulders, or perhaps even worse,
a board member of Rayfion or Boeing or Lockheed or whatever.
(02:51):
That that's what you have to be to run the Pentagon.
A warfighter running the Pentagon is something that a lot
of warfighters want to see right now.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So that that's seeming to go through, which is a
good thing. I want to start on this claim.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I keep wondering when we're going to see what the
hashtag resistance is. And let me be clear, there was
almost nothing from BLM last night.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
In I mean I didn't see anything. Actually in New York.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
There were some people saying some things outside the courtroom,
but there were no riots, and we didn't expect there
to be. We said, it feels like that is an
exhausted mobilization for the left. Well, I keep waiting for
them to figure out what their opposition is going to
be and how they're going to try to stymy the
(03:37):
Trump agenda. In terms of the narrative right, and really
a move to sanity, a move toward the center. Clay
feels kind of inevitable, I would think, but maybe not.
This is cut for AOC who I perhaps have been
naive enough to think is less of a I think
Jesse Kellyer first to it as a street communist, our friend, Jesse,
(03:59):
I like that term, less of street communist, less of
somebody who is out there as kind of a community organizer, activist,
rabble rouser another way of saying it, a rabble.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Rouser that she's been moving toward leadership. No, she's still crazy. Actually,
here she is on the Daniel Penny thing. This is
cut forward play it if we do.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Not want violence on our subways, and the point of
our justice system is a level of accountability to prevent
a person who does not have remorse about taking another
person's life. I mean, even people who have engaged in
nanslaughters or have taken a life accidentally expressed remorse. And
(04:38):
so the fact that a person has made expressed no
remorse indicates that there's a risk that it may happen again.
And if we do not want to unleash that level
of violence, then we should exert a level of accountability
to prevent that from.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Happening again, as if Clay locking up Daniel Penny would
make the subways safer. She didn't get the memo that
the jury put out.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Here's a question for you, and I'm not sure what
my answer is. Is Daniel Penny a twenty four to
forty eight hour story for the left and they just
kind of move on because there isn't really any kind
of rallying cry associated with him? Or is this something
that lingers because sometimes there are jury results that it
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seems like it's going to be a big story and
then a couple of days later we move on and
people don't really care that much. Or is this going
to be one that lasts for some time and becomes
a form of rallying cry for the left. My inclination
is that while they may say crazy things like what
(05:46):
AOC just said, it's really the twenty four hour news cycle,
and deep down they know this is not a story
that lingers in a positive way for them, and so
they abandoned it. Otherwise, there are other stories that I
frankly didn't expect to last as long as they did
that did right, Like they decided January sixth was the
worst day in America since the Civil War, and they
(06:07):
made it a thing for years and years. Daniel Penny,
do you think it's something that lasts that people go
back to, that remains evocative going forward, or do you
think this is a story that forty eight hours from now,
basically nobody left or right really talks about anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I think that this one goes, meaning that it fauls away.
I think that this isn't.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
What they need as a rallying cry.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Here's the thing, people on the street. People on the street.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Especially in New York, are really tired of the maniacs
who have been arrested fifty times, who are urinating and
defecating on the subway, who are spitting in people's moms
faces and grandmothers and knocking them down.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
New Yorkers are actually tired of that. It's beyond the
political now in terms of parties and shit. I mean,
there's still some lunatic Democrats, but now it's only the
lunatic Democrats. It's AOC, it's that maniac Taylor Lorenz who
was at the Washington Post. These are the kind of
people who's still adhere to what had been that Democrat orthodoxy.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I think it's been a huge change.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Normal people, including there are normal Democrats. I know, sounds
like exactly if there are lots of normal Democrats wrong
on some ideas, but saying they see this play and
they say to themselves, enough is enough.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, And I think that's probably the ultimate takeaway. In
the short term, you get outrageous statements like what we
just played from AOC, but it's almost like she's saying
that to try to stay in the good graces of
the left inner party, and then they'll just allow this
to vanish because actual normal people want safe subways. And
(07:55):
when you actually acknowledge the facts of this case and
examine them, there wasn't much here. And I think even
the lack of BLM protests buck they were really good
at mobilizing people to protest anytime they basically called for it.
We played that yesterday. The leaders of New York City's
(08:16):
BLM movement said, we basically need to have protests and
there need to be consequences for this decision by this jury,
and then nothing happened. And I think, you know, it's
one thing when you say, hey, we're going to basically
just decide not to come out and try to rally
about this, but they made a pretty public proclamation that
(08:38):
they wanted there to be some consequences for this jury verdict.
Nothing happened. Nobody really showed up in New York City.
It makes you wonder. And again, I know we're not
allowed to go back in time and re examine this stuff.
I still want to know how they were able to
mobilize so many people with the BLM riots of the
summer of twenty twenty. There was money behind that. Remember
(09:00):
how mysteriously all the riot gear would just show up
suddenly there was a truck that was pulling in with
all the two by fours and all the crow bars
and everything that people would end up rioting with. There
was a lot of money behind that. Trump was in office,
but there doesn't seem to be any mass mobilization that's
occurring against Trump. I think the failure of any real
(09:22):
opposition by and large to his cabinet nominees. The left
is beaten and weak. I think right now, well.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
That's exactly what I'm feeling, which is I cannot remember.
I'm gonna tell you all that I'm gonna be honest
with you since I've been doing this, since I've been
in the world of media and not the world of
you know, the intelligence community, I've never felt like the
Left was just just so deflated and and just beaten.
(09:52):
You know, it's like they got nothing. I don't know
who is the leader, what is the narrative, what is
the story, and so on the good side of things,
I think the this means that Trump has more leeway
for the agenda from go than at any other time,
certainly than even including the beginning of twenty sixteen. I
think he has like the blank slate as much as
one can have one. But you know, he's got the
(10:14):
clear space, I would say, to really do big things play.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I don't even know what the Democrats are offering people.
I watched Morning Joe this morning. Honestly, I shouldn't admit
this stuff. It was like watching local news. They're like, yeah,
the Daniel Penny case, Yeah, this guy got arrested for
the United Healthcare CEO. Really no commentary because I think
they don't know what they're supposed to tell their audience anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
What Hitler's going to be president? Hitler won you know
that's not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I think they're panicking because Fox News now has over
seventy percent of the news audience, and their game plan
is not working in the wake of the Trump big win.
It's not only their influence that's diminished, is that their
audience doesn't trust them, and so I think there's a
bit of floundering. Did we play the audio of your
good buddy Morning Joe going off on his audience for
(11:03):
being too critical of him. It's a sign that you're floundering.
It's one thing if he goes off on Trump's audience,
or he goes off on Republicans who are not otherwise
watching a show. They've now devolved to the point buck
where they're yelling at the few remaining viewers they actually
have and basically saying they don't understand the brilliance of
a guy like Joe Scarborough.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I'm gonna tell you you know where. You know where.
I think they they rally and they dig in.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
If Trump and the Trump team really go with a
massively accelerated deportation program, yes, this is where the identity politics,
the race politics, the class all of that all of
a sudden has this huge resurgence. But that's a central
that's the central promise of Trump two point zero is
(11:49):
to start that and get that process in motion. So
that's what I think almost they're waiting for, because right now, Clay, they've.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Just got nothing. It's it's almost sad.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
They're gonna a couple of kids that are getting deported,
maybe they get separated from their parents, and they're gonna
use that as the stand in for why Trump's deportations
are racist and xenophobic and completely unacceptable. I think you're right.
I think that's the hill that they're going to decide
to die on.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I was I always say closing up shop because it
sounded like it, but no, I was actually just drinking
in some of those amazing Christmas tunes there for a second,
really enjoying that one. We've got a few things we
can we can dive into here coming up, Clay. And
I'm also wondering if anybody has any particularly good Christmas
(12:44):
cocktail recommendations out there. I did, do we have the pistati,
We did have the pistachio martini.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I don't even know are there. I mean eggnog obviously
is a staple. We've got an OutKick Christmas party going
on a little bit tonight in Nashville's not a big event,
but but it'll be a little bit fun hopefully.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Eggnog for those of us who are trying to watch
the calories to try to get a little less. Dad
bought in advance of dadhood. So I'm raising my hand
over here. Eggnog is prutal. Eggnog is like is like
a milkshake with alcohol. It's like an eggie milkshake with
alcohol thrown into it. However, I think it's deliciousness is
definitely beyond question.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
It is quite delicious. I would say eggnog is a
possibility spiced cider for those who like that.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
To me or I guess spiked spiced cider would be
the way that it goes. Can't miss on that one.
I think that's kind of a holiday classic. You put
it in the crystal bowl and a little ladle. No,
he Clay is making a face like I just like
pulled out some step.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I've never had that.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I don't know why you would drink something that you
ordinarily would not drink at a holiday party.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
You know what I mean? Thanksgiving? My friend? What about tradition?
We're not communists here? Come on.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Well, I don't know that there's a dr That's what
I'm saying. I don't know that there's an eggnag. I
guess is the closest thing to a Christmas staple that
otherwise you can't find anywhere else. But I to your point, like,
I don't think that many people actually like eggnog, and
I don't feel like it's actually that widely available now.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
At parties, producer Greg comes out with hot Toddy, which
is something that whenever I've had like a cold or
a sore throat and for some reason them out at
a bar, which is not a good idea people have
tried to make me drink. I don't know of a
hot tot. Hot Toddy is kind of a year round. Well,
it's a cold weather drink for sure. I'm not sure
people think of it as a Christmas specific drink though.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I just stick with the.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Drinks that you know, and and and I will say,
I bet there's some incredible awkward holiday party stories out
there in this audience. Maybe we can get into that
on Thursday, on your final day of of the weed, oh,
because I bet there's some amazing ones.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
D John, do you know John, lefev Is. He's the
guy who started the Goldman Sacks Twitter account and years ago.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Do you remember that the elevator.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Not not the real sorry, not the Golden Sacks actually looking,
but like the parody account gs elevator. I had him
on podcasts recently. Very sharp guy, very smart guy. Very
pro Trump guy too.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
By the way.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
And it was interesting though, because he put out on
X a list of Chris like for the for the
corporate audience, you know, corporate America, people that work in offices,
you know, the office Christmas party phenomenon.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
He put out a list for dues and don'ts. It
was a good list.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I gotta say, which was don't you don't don't arrive
late to the office Christmas party. Arrive on time for
the office Christmas party. Don't have more than two drinks
at the office Christmas party. Talk to the seniors early
because they're gonna leave because the more junior staff are
going to stay and let loose a little bit. And
everybody knows that. So you know, he had all these
r was. I gotta say, it's it's good because I
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may have been at one or two. Not not to
get a currently not the current to anyone I work for.
But back in the day, and back when I worked
in the government, clay some office parties get a little
out of head Christmas time get a little wild. Can
we check it on MSNBC for a second. Here, I'm sorry,
I know this is this is.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Like am I am?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I addicted to hate hate Watching MSNBC and CNN.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I start to wonder about this.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
My wife, we were out to dinner with some friends
last night, and and when I told them that I
watched Morning Joe every morning, pretty much every morning, they.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
They were a gas.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I said, what, You've got to be kidding me, How
do you I don't know. You don't understand. It's amazing.
They're so it's it's insane there, it's it's all a performance.
They don't believe anything they're saying. It's it's this is great.
You have to know what you're watching. Wasn't there isn't
there like a play where it's all about is it
the is it the producers? Where things all fall apart?
(16:58):
I never saw that right, But it's a lot like
watching The point of the show for me is that
is watching the disaster. It's the slow moving train wreck
that is MSNBC in general and Morning Joe in particular,
and I do derive some real joy from watching this
play out.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
But we have a bit of news on this.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Donald Trump got Times Person of the Year, you know,
don't I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I think a lot of people still.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Wonder if Time magazine even exists, and it's a fair questioning, wait,
did they still do that thing? Apparently they do the
Time Magazine's Person of the Year fifty years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I think people cared about this. Now it's just kind
of kind of a gimmick. I mean, it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
They said it's Donald Trump, which is unsurprising and I
think well deserved, because this guy pulled off the greatest
political comeback of our lifetime by far. I've never heard
of or seen anything like this in certainly in you know,
living memory, maybe go back in history. I don't know
(18:06):
if you've ever had a comeback like this before. Somebody
who survives two assassination attempts for criminal prosecutions comes back
after the events of January sixth, and the effort to
use that through the committees and everything else to destroy him.
You know you know what I mean, it's it's it's remarkable.
It's it's a truly incredible story. And even Time Magazine
(18:29):
has noticed this. And you know who's very unhappy about.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
It, Joy Reid, Joy Reid.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
You gotta hear this. This, Oh man, she's having it.
She's having a real time of it over at MSNBC.
This has cut sixteen play.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
It, as Time Magazine describes it, For ninety seven years,
the editors of Time have been picking the person of
the Year, the individual who, for better or for worse,
did the most to shape the world and the headlines
over the past twelve months. In many years, choice is
a difficult one. In twenty twenty four, it was not.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
The key line for better or for worse is not
much of a ringing endorsement. And we all know which
one Trump falls under. And let's remember who else has
been given this title in years past in the same category.
Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Iyatolajoe Mami, and Vladimir Putin, oh
distinction twice.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Just like Trump, she's a mate.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
She can we just respect how consistently insane she is.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
It's a it's fascinating. This is great TV. You just
have to approach it. It's not news it's.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Not insight, it's wow, look at what's going on here.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Over at MSNBC, you're also watching.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It's like watching a failed state collapse or something.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You know, You're just like, this is crazy, what's going
on over there? And they don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Finally, the their Berlin Wall has come and down. Over
at MSNBC, the commissars are ordering people around back in Moscow,
and no one's paying attention. You know, no one's showing
up to the factories to pretend to work so the
Soviets can pretend.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
To pay them. And this is what's going on MSNBC.
They're just what are they even gonna do?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Oh, Donald Trump got Time Person of the Year, just
like Hitler, Stalin and Putin and over at MSNBC, they
think Trump is worse than all three combined. You know what,
at this point, they should just bring back Olberman, you
know what I mean, just just go all in on
the crazy. Just decide that it's time to go all
in with looney tunes.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Olberman and I have them all.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
There's the end of our democracy. And I have used
Athosaurus to throw a bunch of big words into my
hissy fit.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
It would be fantastic stuff. I'm just telling you, you
know who else is very upset about this. I'm just
having fun with this one today. I'm sorry. It's almost
the weekend. You know, we're kicking back. We're seeing what's
going on. The Democrat media flailing everywhere. They got nothing.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
There's not even like a center of competency or stability
for them.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I've never seen that in my entire life in.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
The media now going on fifteen years, I have never
seen anything like this where they're just they're just panicked,
you know that they don't know what are they gonna do,
What are they gonna say. They've told us that this
guy is Hitler and then he should go to prison
for the rest of his life. And he just kicked
their butts in an election, Like, how do you how
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do you do that?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
How do you notice?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
By the way, you know, the conservative media, whether it
was this show or Fox News or any other.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Conservative shows that are out there, we weren't telling you.
And I said this to you.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
You can go back and you remember said, look, if
the Democrats somehow pull this off, it's depressing for America,
but we'll live to fight another day.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
We figure it out. We deal with it and we
move forward. You know, that's it. There's such a bunch
of cry babies. And speaking of here's don Lemon. This
is cut seventeen. Time Magazine. What are you doing?
Speaker 8 (22:04):
Let me ask you, Time Magazine, what do you say
to the women who I guess still read Time Magazine.
You have someone on the cover of your magazine who
is an adjudicated assaulter. You have someone who inspired an insurrection.
You have someone who, without a doubt the evidence is there,
try to overturn a free and fair election. You had
(22:24):
someone who had multiple criminal counts and found guilty on
multiple criminal counts and you name them person of the year.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Is this a joke? Do we get something wrong? Did
someone scam us? Are we sure about this? Producers?
Speaker 8 (22:40):
There is a convicted felon on the cover of Time
magazine as the person of the Year.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Maybe we're being scammed. I hope he keeps this up.
I hope all of them keep this up. He's adjudicated assaulter,
and he's an insurrection and a hitler and fascis him.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And just just keep it going, Just keep it going,
because you know what this Trump team's coming in dialed
in ready to go with a real agenda and an
understanding of what needs to get done, and they're going
after it fast.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Think about some of the some of the pieces that
they have in play.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
We've had the defection of the most prominent member of
the Kennedy family to not just the Republicans, but to
Trump specifically with Rfk Junior. And Democrats love political dynasties,
as we know, so that's that really stings. The richest
man in the world and the most impressive CEO in
the world, Elon Musk, is reportedly looking at places to
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live in Palm Beach so he can be there a
lot more and spend more time with Trump and the
mar A Lago team. And I assume he'll get a
place in DC. He can get a place places everywhere.
It's worth three hundred billion dollars. You see that, the
first person to ever reached that mark of personal wealth ever.
And at the way things are going, and he may
become the world's first trillionaire. We now have trillion dollar
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companies like Apple, but he may be the world's first
trillionaire personally. So that's and he's on our team, right
And and then you add and you got Hegseat.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And and and uh.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Gabbard and Ramaswami and and I'll get into a little
bit more Tom Homan. By the way, he's I don't
want to put too much pressure on on Tom, you know, he's.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
His approach to things reminds me a little.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Bit of the portrait you get of Ulysses Grant and
ron Chernow's magnificent biography of him where and I.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Know that's that's that's big shoes for for Tom to fill.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
But I just mean Grant was so humble and unassuming,
but competent and mission focused all the time.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
And that was.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Part and and people really, especially after the victory at
at Vicksburg, you know, he became this national figure and
Lincoln brings him in, puts him in charge. He becomes
lieutenant and brings him in to run the whole thing
lieutenant General of the Union Army, and and everyone just
wants to shake his hand and hug him and tell
him how great he is.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
And he just kind of addresses.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Casually and walks around and is not an imposing figure
and just wants to get the mission done. And I
just feel like that that part of Tom Homan really
comes across to me, he's just a guy who wants
to do what is necessary for the country and to
secure our border and to enforce our laws and to give.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Us back national sovereignty. And it's not a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Of you know about fanfare, and it's not a lot
of trying to you know.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Get the big book deal or all the pats on
the back.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
He just does it because it's the mission and you
really like to see that, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Anyway, there's so many good people.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I think Marco Rubio is going to be very competent
Secretary of State, very solid, and I think that you've
got a really just an excellent team across the board
that's coming in.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
You know, Stephen Miller going to be the deputy White
House Chief of Staff.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I mean, that guy is just a The policy knowledge
and brain power that he brings to the game is
so impressive. So you've got all these great people coming
in and Democrats are still just in.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
They're still processing the loss.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Which is why I think talking to you about like
Joy Reid and Don Lemon and Joe Scarborough and all
these different voices out there. And I keep asking my
conservative friends this as well, who is who is the
most powerful voice for the Democrats right now. And this
is part of what it is. Movements need leaders, right,
(26:29):
organizations need leaders.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Movements need leaders. Who is the leader of the Democrat
Party going into twenty twenty five? You can throw out
some names.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I think people are underestimating what they're going to be
able to pull off with elevating AOC. I know she's
a communist and all the you know, Obama was president
for eight years. Everybody, okay, so being a Marxist at
heart is by no means an impediment to or a block.
I should say, maybe it's an impediment from the presidency.
I think they'll be uh. AOC is going to be
(27:02):
a big part of the Democrat Party's future. I think
that she has actually evolved and matured as a Democrat,
as a leftist to be. You know, she she throws
out less think about it. She throws out less stupid
soundbites that we all just make fun of all day long.
She's become a little more disciplined. You know this is
she was very young when she took that seat in Congress.
(27:23):
And remember she beat a very established Democrat to do it,
very entrenched Democrat. So I think people are underestimating her
as you know, for her team, for her party. And
then when you start to throw out these other names,
come on, well, what are we really talking about here?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
You know, who are we throw into the mix?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Gaven Newsom is not gonna happen, no matter how many
shirt buttons he unbuttons out.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Of the beach drinking chardonnay.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
If Clay was here, he might be able to defend Gavenuwsom,
but no one's defending him. Now there's there's It's not
gonna be Gavin Newsom. It's not going to be It's
not gonna be Gretchen Wittmer. I don't think she has
I just don't think she has the appeal of the
skill set. So Democrats have no one to rally behind
in politics. And then also on the media side, Rachel
maddowt unless you were delusional, this destroyed whatever credibility even
(28:15):
as a leftist that she had. With all this Russia
stuff and all the craziness and going along with the
overall MSNBC line about Trump is fascism. We're going to
see with our own eyes just how absurd the Trump
is fascism thing is. The country is going to really
dare I say, be in a process of healing. Oh, yes,
(28:35):
I think it's going to be much better. I think
the immigration issue is going to get really hot. I
do think so. I think that's going to be a challenge.
And that's where I see the empire strike back effect.
You could have that be the rallying cry for Democrats
when you if you really ramp up the deportations in
a way that Trump has said they will, but they
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have no one to turn to right now. I've even
said that on social media. Who is the formidable Democrat
that I would even care to debate? Who would it
even be worthwhile to get into with somebody who's a
really committed leftist. I don't mean somebody like a Bill
Maher who's open to different ideas and stuff and has
a platform where you can actually have the left and
(29:18):
the right, you know, meet at least face to face.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
In some way.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
There's very few of those. Piers Morgan's been Look, he's
got a brilliant strategy for his show right now, and
Clay was just on a few days ago and the
segment went viral. Just have the craziest leftist democrats you
can on air, and they're gonna go viral.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Because they're nuts, you know. And Peers is like, oh, like,
are you really this insane? Like, oh you really this crazy?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
And they're like, yes, Piers, I am this insane. I
am this crazy, and they just say the wildest stuff.
So I've never experienced this before where they don't have
it's like their whole army in a sense, their political
army has been swept away and they have to rebuild.
The Democrat rebuilding right now is unlike anything else we've
(30:03):
ever seen. I know it's not going to last. I
know it's temporary, but here's the good news. It also
creates their crisis creates opportunity, opportunity for Trump the incoming
administration to do big things. They are not as organized,
they are not They're not as capable of the obstruction
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and the media narratives and the dirty tricks and all
these things they've done in the past. So we really
need Trump and the team to come in and we
need day one j six pardons, massive deportation, escalation, removal
of all kinds of crappy Biden executive orders that have
made things worse for everybody. I mean, it's got to
just be like a Swiss watch right away and you know,
(30:48):
precise focused and frosty, and I think that we have
a really good chance of it.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I want
to play this for you. React to it. On the
flip side, Trumpell was asked about whether or not he
might give a pardon to Eric Adams, mayor of New
York City. This is what he said about that a
little bit earlier today at mor Lago parking area.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Meads, yeah, I would.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (31:18):
I think that he was treated pretty unfairly. Now I
haven't seen the gravity of it all, but it seems,
you know, like being upgraded in an airplane many years ago.
I know probably everybody here has been upgrade. They see
your all stars and they say, I want to upgrade
that person from NBC. I'm going to upgrade him, and
that would mean you'll spend the rest of your life
in prison.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I don't know somehow I would.
Speaker 9 (31:40):
I mean, i'd have to see it, because I don't
know the facts. I think he was treated. You know,
it's very interesting when he essentially went against what was
happening with the migrants coming in, and you know, he
made some pretty strong statements like this is not sustainable.
I said, you know what, he'll be indicted soon. And
I said it not as a prediction, a little bit lightheartedly,
but I said it.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I said, he's going to be indicted and.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
A few months later got indicted.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
So yeah, I would certainly look at it.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I think this buck would be a really smart move
we've set on this show January sixth. Pardons to me
are a no brainer. Question is every single one or not?
I mean, that's an interesting debate you could get into,
but a lot of them. Yes, I would pardon Eric Adams,
and I would do it on the first day, go
ahead and set a bypart as an example of trying
(32:27):
to clean the deck on law fair.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yes, and I think that there's also an opportunity here
to help Eric Adams stay in place for the next
mayor's term. It's going to be a long shot right now,
but with the idea that he is going to be
very good on primarily the illegal immigration issue. He's not
red pilled, but he may be playing a role here.
(32:55):
And I also think that it's the right thing to
do for Trump to consider a pardon for him because
he is being hit because he defected from Team Lunatic
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