February 12, 2025 • 36 mins
Trump's superpower. Karoline Leavitt says it's not true that DOGE isn't transparent and the injunctions by judges are a continuation of the weaponization of gov't against Trump. Elon's motivations. Caller Linda doesn't understand the media meltdowns over DOGE. Why Clay spoke at a lib university.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Lots of
news has been breaking, as it will be happening a lot,
and we appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Tulca Gabbard confirmed. RFK Junior on track to be confirmed.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Trump has talked with both Putin and Vladimir Zolensky and
it appears that we are moving towards a potential ceasefire.
We were scheduled right now to be joined by Secretary
of State Marco Rubio. He has now gotten drawn into,
as you might well imagine, a lot of the details
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involved in trying to settle the ceasefire.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
He now can't come on live.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
He says he's going to be on tomorrow with us,
so he wanted to let you know he was looking
forward to talking to all of you. Obviously you've had
him on a lot over the years, have not had
him on since he became Secretary of State. But at
the last minute he got called into a meeting, as
you might well imagine, is going on right now surrounding
(01:05):
the Russia Ukraine related details. So he tells us that
he is going to join us tomorrow at this point
in time. And by the way, this is going to
happen a lot. We had Caroline Levitt scheduled I think
last week and then oh, by the way, there's lots
of crazy news that drops and we're going to have
(01:26):
to reschedule. I think you guys are all going to
understand that we're going to have the president on soon again,
and he's probably going to be on with us as scheduled,
but he also might have something that comes up. This
is the difference between being in power, Buck and being
out of power. The administration is moving fast and a
(01:46):
lot of things are taking place on a day to
day basis. So we're going to have the individual's schedule
to talk with us, but you may suddenly get a
change of plans on the fly.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
This show is important.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
We got a millionians listeners, and there's a lot of
respect from the policy community for speaking to all of you.
But if the Secretary of State has got to get
into imminent negotiations to try to end a war that's
been a total carnage scene in Eastern Europe, we get it,
you know what I mean. We're gonna have him when
we can have him. It's okay. He's got big things
to tackle, no doubt, So he is scheduled.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
We'll see if we can get it done tomorrow at
this exact same time. To come on and talk with
us about the latest. Now in real time, Caroline Levitt
has been interacting in the White House with her press briefing.
We've got a couple of a couple of takes just
to update you on exactly what she is saying. This
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is talking about DOGE and transparency Cut twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I think it's a real fallacy that there's this alleged
lack of transparency when it comes to DOGE. President Trump
and Elon Musk have been incredibly transparent on what DOGE
is doing. There is an x account with the DOGE hand.
They are tweeting out what they are doing on a
daily basis. They have a website where they are posting
the receipts of the contracts that they are reviewing and
the payments that they have stopped from going out the door.
(03:10):
The secretaries of our departments have stopped from going out
the door. And I would also say that before it
was Elon Musk making our government efficient and accountable, it
was some unnamed bureaucrat that none of you knew.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Elon Musk is the richest man in the world.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
He's also now one of the most highly scrutinized men
in the world, alongside President Trump because of what he's
doing and the access that he is allowing. So there's
great transparency.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Okay, My question for you, Buck would be this, and
we're going to play another cut or two from the
press conference. Other than believing that the government needs to
be better and more efficiently run, what does Elon Musk
gain from all of this? I mean, I think that's
a question worth asking. And when you're already the richest
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man in the world, I don't know that I buy
the argument. Oh, Elon Musk is in on this for himself.
It seems to me like he just wants America to
be as efficiently run as possible because he thinks a
strong America makes it more likely.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I'm telling you what.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I think his motivations are for Mars to become a
multi planet, to a satellite outpost of the United States
and of the world and protect us from the whole
civilization being wiped out.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I mean, this is just a question from you.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Are you concerned because the new line of attack is, oh,
Elon Musk has so much power, there's conflicts, He's in
it for himself.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
They're not being transparent.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Frankly, I'm astounded that Elon Musk would want to take
this on. And I actually think it's evidence of Musk's
over arching ambition for humanity more so than it is
some personal like how much more money can he need
when you're already the this man of the world.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
This is why the the complaints that some in the
Democrat media and Democrat politicians are are leveling like he
has he has access.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
To your personal information.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Where can I place bets that Elon Musk isn't going
to steal someone's social so he can set up like
a credit card in their name. I mean, what are
they even talking about the government already has this information
you're so worried about. You think some bureaucrat is is
going to treat it as sacro saying, first of all,
we know that they leaked Donald Trump's tax returns, but
that's totally so. And that's so, But after buck, I
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think this is important, after spending years telling you that
what was in his tax returns would make him unelectable
page New York Times.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Nobody cares. It's not that extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
But a bureaucrat did leak totally and I think actually
ended up going to getting a prison sentence for it.
So the the notion that Elon Musk is in any
way a risk to your privacy or identity in that
it's it's just crazy. I mean, this is government data
that the government already has it. He has no interest.
I mean, think about this, you know, and think about
Google and Facebook, these companies that have so much of
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your personal information that they're not really actually fascinated with
you as an individual. And Elon Musk is not fascinated
with any individual. He's trying to stop what should be
a universally lauded, a universally praised effort of stopping payment
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from going to people. I mean, he explained this Yesterdy
in the Oval Office. There are payments from the Treasury
going to people who are on a do not pay list.
Now that do not pay list exists, so that that
won't happen, but the money's still going to them. Does
anyone want to argue that that money should still go
to them? It seems like for the Democrats. The answer
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is yes, and instead of the embarrassment that people who
favor the system so much should have over what the
system is doing, they double and triple down with this
nonsense and act like the way the system operates is perfect.
Anybody who has any problem with what's going on has
bad intentions. I just think this Elon factor in Trump's
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administration is like a dream come true for anybody who
is limited government, believes in accountability, you know, wants to
see the spending get under control.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
This is what we need. We need some form of
shock therapy.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
We need somebody who makes rockets and then catches them
as they land.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
We don't need a bureaucrat who spent twenty years looking at.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
The Ledger because they've led us to where we are
right now.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I just want to reiterate, because nobody else is saying it.
Elon voted for Joe Biden in twenty twenty. The media
now wants to convince you that Elon Musk is some
sort of far right wing ideologue. He only voted for
Trump for the first time in twenty twenty four. This
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idea that Elon has been some dark and sinister right
He didn't endorse Trump buck until right after the assassination
attempt in July. He wasn't even a Trump guy until
July of twenty twenty four. He has supported Trump now
publicly for seven months of his entire life. I do
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think this is worth like kind of reiterating. If anything,
what this speaks to is Trump's willingness to bring in
people that he thinks have supreme talent to try to
make America great again.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Right. I actually think this is Trump's.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Superpower, is that he's willing to bring in Elon Musk
and give him the keys to make a difference because
he sees his talents, even though Elon in twenty sixteen
and twenty twenty actually voted against Trump.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Look, Tim Cook is a Democrat, right, CEO of Asphole.
I think it's well known he's a Democrat. And if
you had had a DEMO, if you had had a
Democrat administration come in and say we're gonna have Tim
Cook look at like the security of government devices and
encryption for important government systems, I would say, oh, that
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makes sense. I mean, he's somebody who understands and has
high level access to the highest level access to those
kinds of systems and is doing it incredibly successfully on
a global scale for a trillion dollar company. That's Elon.
It's just it's a Republican and not a Democrat in office, right.
I mean, this is if you were to switch Elon
out with a handful of people who, quite honestly, I
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don't think are as impressive or skilled as Elon is,
but they're in that same category, I'd say, Wow, Democrats
are actually doing something that makes sense here. This is
what we need. We need somebody with true domain expertise.
Isn't it fascinating?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Clay? You got these people that are all, oh, but
why why are we putting forward.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Cash for I mean Cash was like a federal prosecutor
for many, many years, and he's done all kinds of
things that prepare him for the FBI. But they question
the qualifications of some of Trump's nominees for cabinet positions,
I think unfairly, but they do. And then you bring
in somebody to do doge who is arguably the most
qualified person on the planet, the most impressive and qualified
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person on the planet, and you know what they're doing.
They're arguing over process issues and they're just whining about it.
They're complaining because they can't make an argument.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I'll even take it a step further, like he wouldn't
have done it because he was the worst president in
our lives. But if Joe Biden had brought in Elon
Musk and said, hey, federal spending got out of control
during COVID, I think we've wasted a lot of money.
I want the most brilliant minds in American capitalism to
be looking at how we spend money and making sure
that we're not wasting taxpayer funds. I would have said, yeah,
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that makes sense, right. I mean, Biden made awful decisions
across the board. But my point on that is Elon
voted for Biden. In theory, Joe Biden could have had
a good relationship with Elon Musk and used his talents
to try to make the American government better than it
otherwise would have been to me, Tulca Gabbert getting confirmed,
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r Ifk Junior about to get confirmed Elon Musk. This
is evidence of a remade Republican Party and a profoundly
new big tent that is focused on common sense, logical results.
And I think that's why Trump's approval ratings buck are
the highest level of his political career. I mean, look,
Mark Fogel, is there anybody opposed to getting Americans who
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are charged abundantly more so than they otherwise would be
by foreign countries back? Trump got what six people back
from Venezuela, just announced a new American hostage from Belarus
is being returned. Mark Fogel kissing the ground when he
got back. Most of what Trump is doing, I would argue,
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is just hyper rational, logical, not even particularly partisan, smart
decisions that the president should be making.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's fiscal sanity and rule of law. It's let's look
at what we're spending money on. Are we spending money
on smart things? And should people that commit crimes who
are not even supposed to be in this country still
be in the country even though we all agree it
is absolutely illegal for them to be in the country.
They're in violation of law. These are very straightforward things.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
This is not like hyper partisan, hyper ideological stuff, although
it is the Democrats because they're insane. That's the problem
with being totally nuts. When you're totally nuts, you can't
see things straight. So you know, they should.
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Probably get it together.
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Speaker 3 (14:06):
Hi, welcome back in everybody.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
We've got Caroline Levitt addressing the press corps in the
West Wing of the White House doing a press conference.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
What a shift in transparency has occurred from the Abiden administration,
which was all just stage managed in order to hide
reality and the truth from people, to the Trump administration,
where you get constant access to President Trump, constant access
to his top people.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It's very refreshing.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I would think, well for anybody who's looking at it objectively,
we got some calls coming in. Let's take Linda in
Sunny Florida. What's going on, Linda?
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Hey, this is Linda. I just wanted to make a comment.
You know, I'm one of the seventy seven million I've
voted for President Trump. I voted Anon, and I know
from his first that when he says he's going to
do something, he's going to do it. And now, you know,
I feel better knowing our tax dollars are not going
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to be just flying out the door after what we're
seeing that you know, we're paying. It's unbelievable. And all
the billions to Ukraine and the millions to house migrants
are boreder. You know, Americans in western North Carolina lived
in a pitch tent and five degree weather. You know,
(15:33):
I am just like And now the Democrats and the
mainstream media or legacy media are scaring people. They're wanting
to scare them into thinking that whatever Elon Musk is doing,
which they are being totally transparent, is somehow going to
take away their social security or give away their private information.
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They're scaring them like they always do. And so I
just wanted to say that, you know, anybody that's up
in arms about it in the governments, you got to
wonder where you know that's coming from. Unless it's Rod.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, Linda, I would say this. There's there's clearly a
large contingent of left wing groups, activists, causes who have
created this infrastructure of funding via taxpayers who don't know
about this funding. And that's why. So that's why they're
upset about It's very clear. And a lot of them
have friends in DC, and they have friends who work
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for the media outlets, and some of the media outlets.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I mean, the Politico pro thing is is just preposterous.
By the way, it's just preposterous. Brian in Cleveland wants
the way and Brian, what you got for us?
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Hey, my pleasure, gentlemen talking to you, my privilege. Hey,
I want to talk about a couple of quick things.
First of all, the musk motivation. Everyone has a motivation. Well,
when you get to the statue of him, I think
most people how we grew up, we always groomed. What
kind of car you drive, what kind of house you live,
and what kind of bank accounts you have, and what
you have left at the end of the week really
motivates people. And I think that's ninety five percent of
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the public's motivation. What's in it for him using a
monetary sports right, Well, you know what there could How
about just doing the right thing. I left private business
a few years ago. My wife and I started a
charity and I'm not going to get into that. But
no one gets paid, no one has all donations. We
helped sixty thousand people in the area last year. And
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I guess my question is why do I do it?
I have friends who asked, why do.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
You do it.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
What's in it for you? Well, it doesn't have to
be a monetary fix, right, you're.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Appreaching to the thanks first of all, thank you for
what you do. You're preaching the choir here. I think
Elon Musk is giving back. That's why the attacks on.
What is his motivation? I think his motivation is he
just wants America to be a sounder, more concretely successful
financial entity. I mean that seems like the only possible
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it today, all right, welcome back in yesterday. I was out, Buck,
thanks for holding down the shop. I was invited to
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speak on a pay at the University of Chicago, very
left wing university, which, to their credit, says that they
are committed to the marketplace of ideas, and the fact
that I was invited, I think was a testament to that.
I did, not, however, decide to tiptoe into the event.
So I want to set the table. Buck has not
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heard any of this. I bet most of you have not.
There are hundreds of people there. A few of our
listeners came after I tweeted about it was great to
meet them. But this is a ninety five percent commal
of voting audience, mostly young female audience, that was not
very receptive to my arguments. I did not tiptoe up
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to it. The moderator was a left wing editor from
the Atlantic who also had worked at NPR, and I
want to give.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You a sense.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
This is Towards the end it got a little bit chaotic,
but this was me calling out the Atlantic.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I think think you guys will enjoy it. This is
cut three.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Sixty percent of college graduates now are women, right right,
So it is impossible. Sorry, girls, for every woman, there
are no girls here.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Girls, boys, you're girls.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
And boys to me too, as well as men and women.
You know, I know it's policing. Language is a big
part of what the Atlantic does.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Now we do it out kick. Atlantic is barely liberal.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So yes, yes, also also has never made a profit
without a multi billionaire running it, which is worth knowing too.
But unlike my company, which is wildly profitable because we
speak to a big audience to people. But I do
think if you look at sixty percent of women graduating
from college, forty percent are men.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
The math doesn't add up.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Okay, buck, that was like I didn't tiptoe up to it.
There she's cutting me off because I'm saying, hey, for
all the boys and girls, and oh they're women. She
constantly was correcting my language, and so finally I just
decided I'm just taking the gloves and flat out telling
the truth here, which is The Atlantic is a left
wing propaganda outlet that has never actually made a profit
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and has a billionaire owner. And I don't know that
very many people have ever called out an editor for
The Atlantic in a public forum like that. But I
don't think I would have done it unless she had
been like, they're not girls, They're not girls. And earlier
she was, you know, kind of coming after me on
language too, So that is emblematic. Now you could hear
the reaction. There was a lot of titters of dismay.
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Let me also hit you with a couple of more
of these elements, and then I'll explain why I went.
I want to get your reaction to these couple of
things as well. Buck here is here.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I am. What's the first one this is talking about.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Let me pull up the audio clips here because I'm
not sure exactly what we have. This is me talking
about COVID and saying, for a lot of young people,
this is a failure like Vietnam was for kids who
were growing up in the sixties.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Listen to cut One.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
One of the guys that brought me here today said
COVID shut down his school in March of twenty twenty,
and most of the kids in his school he's a junior,
didn't ever return to school. We failed an entire generation
of young people, and I think when you have lived
through that, you have a lot less credit and faith
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in the government. Just like historically, and I'm a history nerd,
it took a very long time. If you went through
the Vietnam War, which maybe I can't see everybody's face.
Maybe there's some of you out there that actually had
to go through the draft where you set and watch
to see whether or not you're going to be sent
to carry a gun and walk around in a jungle
and get shot at. When you live through that, you
might be pretty skeptical. In the sixties and seventies of
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the government, I think COVID for this generation of young
men in particular, who got locked up, who weren't allowed
to play sports, all of this, they're angry and when
they see Trump, he seems like an avatar for their anger.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Okay, I think that's rational.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
They weren't happy about that, and then I asked a
question that really got them riled up, and she had
to interrupt. Who is the most masculine democrat the conversation
was about gender roles in the election, and Bucky asked, Yeah,
before we get to the generals, I just wanted to
say on your point about about Vietnam.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I mean, what the correlation or the the the what's
the word? I'm looking for analogy? Thank you? There we go.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Analogy to COVID I think is particularly apt because you know,
there's that David Halberstam book, The Best and the Brightest
about Vietnam, and you know, we were led to believe
that the smartest military minds, the smartest foreign policy minds,
you know, they were on it, and there was a
great reason for us to be doing this. And sure enough,
in that generation, those who fought in Vietnam paid a
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terrible price by being embroiled in that war.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
With COVID.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I mean, the experts that you would think you could
trust the most with the least of politicization would be
health experts. I mean that what pre COVID I would
have said that, and he said to me, who can
you trust in the government. That's gonna shoot pretty straight.
Although I knew about FAUCI and HIV and all that
stuff from back in the day, but put that aside.
I would have said, Look, I think that the overall
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that health experts really we all want our family members
and our kids to be safe from you know, disease
and pandemics, et cetera. And they completely shattered that to
the point now where I mean, have you told me
that you could, like just you could bulldoze the FBI
and salt the earth and do something else, or bulldoze
the CDC. I mean, I think the CDC is number
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one on my list. I think Fauci is the most
damaging and destructive bureaucrat in the history of the United States.
As we're looking at what happened. I know he was
at Naiad, which is part of the NIH but it's
all all the same circle of awfulness. So yeah, no,
I think that it also radicalized a lot of people
further to the right than I think they ever thought possible,
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which was a clearly a consequent of Clay. I remember, sorry,
this is just going to come back sometimes. I remember
I got on a plane and the airline attendant told
me that my mask looked too thin, and then she
said you have to put this one on over it,
and I just said, okay, well, I'll just put that
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mask on instead, and she said no. And I said,
why do I have to wear the two thin mask
with the masker giving me? And she said for safety.
And I was like, well, if the mask you're giving
me isn't safe, then why are you giving it to me?
And at that point I could tell in her eyes
she was about to ban me from the airlines. Yes,
so you know that's what these people were. That's who
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they were. And by the way they would have been
informing on their neighbors in East Germany, they would have
been calling out their parents to the KGB in the
Soviet Union. That is, it is the same species, the
same type of person.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
And I think that is one reason why young men
are rebelling against authority figures, because they've been wronged in
just like in Vietnam. To your point, Buck, the best
in the brightest said hey, trust us take this machine
gun and go walk around in a jungle and try
and avoid getting blown up by the via Cong. And
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if you came back from that war you might have
been a little bit skeptical about governmental authority, much less
significant in terms of physical risk to young men. But
if you didn't get to finish your junior year of
high school and young women too. By the way, you
didn't get to go to prom, you didn't get to
play football or basketball or whatever sport you loved, and
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you later found out it was all bs. Would you
be wanting to cheer lead the Democrat Party? I don't
think you would. And I think that's one of the
resonant impacts of COVID that a lot of people aren't
addressing that did. As these kids get old enough to vote,
they're angry at the world and they want to channel
that anger. And I think Trump channels it to them,
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certainly far better than common Mala Harris did or any
other Democrat figure. Philosophically, it's also a very good thing
and a free society to have most of your you know,
high functioning citizens, high functioning individuals in your society, to
reject the false security of consensus on issues of debate.
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The notion that you can just fall back onto consensus
is a trap. It is a fallacy. It is either
true or it is not true. It does not matter
how many people say the untrue thing. And I think
COVID was a huge reminder of that. Now, gender are you,
are you about to make some libs cry over gender.
Here is the final clip and then we'll have some fun.
By the way, if you guys want to react, this
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was I asked the question who's the most masculine Democrat?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And it did not make the room happy? Enjoy Who
is the.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Most masculine democrat right now in America?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
And there's Mayor Pete? Is that a gay job?
Speaker 5 (27:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
No, Mayor p No, Well no, it's just that he's
not particularly masculine. Nobody's like, oh, he's a badass Chuck Schumer.
Is anybody like, hey, you know Chuck Schumer holding up
an avocado and a beer to talk about the Super
Bowl as anybody like that's trying to grill. Is anybody like, hey,
that's a dude I want to hang out with.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
But Trump's like a grandpa? Well hold on.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Trump took a bullet in his ear and immediately stood
up and said fight, fight, fight. Every man in America
and most of the women out here were impressed by that,
even if the women won't admit it.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
She's shaking her head strong, were audience members. Oh yeah,
crowd work now, Oh yeah, I'm doing crowd work.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Some woman out there was shaking her head that she
wasn't impressed by Trump taking a bullet saying fight, fight,
fight if you want to be entertained, and I think
a lot of you will be entertained by it, because
here's why I did it, Buck, and I want to
see if you think this is this is smart. It's
easy to preach to the choir. And I love the
fact that many of you out there that we get
to talk to the millions of you every day. You
have spent four years with us, you may well have
(28:58):
spent thirty three years with Rush before, or you are
a part of a large coalition. You don't agree on everything,
but you have open minds and you're willing to have
a conversation with us for three hours every day. Most
of the kids in that room, most of the kids
in that room had never heard any of the arguments
that I made. And maybe maybe ninety percent of them
(29:19):
left saying that Clay Travis is a neanderthal like But
maybe ten percent of them, maybe twenty percent of them.
Their minds are young enough and malleable enough that some
of the things that I said, and some of the
arguments that I made, maybe it just seedes there. Maybe
(29:39):
it makes them listen a little bit more to arguments
that they might not have otherwise heard. Fuck, maybe it
just makes them aware that the argument even exists itself,
because they're in such an island of insolarity that they
don't actually experience the larger debates of society. So one
of my goals for twenty twenty five, now that we've
(30:02):
won the election, to the extent that I can do it,
and obviously has to fit the schedule and radio and
everything else, is I'd like to go out the college
campuses and talk to kids, to these audiences, even if
they hate me, to try to open their minds to
a larger marketplace.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Because I do think we have the better arguments. I
just think a lot of these kids aren't hearing them.
And so anyway, that's my idea. I don't know if
you think that's crazy, but this is my idea of
what I want to do. No, I look, I think
it's a great idea. And I also think that there's
a difference now some years ago Clay trying to do that.
And it's so funny to me because the Conservatives who
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have been doing that, and there are some who have
really kind of built their careers on going into college
campuses and speaking. The more the lunatics with the purple
hair and the nose rings scream and shriek and pound
the yes the doors, the more news coverage and the
more it just turns into a pr win for the conservative.
But there have been cases is where people who aren't
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that high profile have gone to some of these schools,
and I means it has actually become a security risk
because the left wing loons are so outrageous. You know,
they they're pulling fire alarms, they're throwing things, they're you know,
they're they actually assaulted. I think it was Charles Murray
uh and and a female professor. I want to say
this was a Dartmouth college some year buck Riley Gaines
(31:25):
got attacked at San Jose State University, I think it was. Yeah,
I think it was Middlebury by the way. Anyway, I
can't remember what the school was. But these things happened, happening.
I don't think that same ferocity on the left will
be on display, not because they've changed their minds. They're
still lunatics, but they realize that the country is not
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really not with them, you know, they're they're a little
bit more, a little bit more on their back heels.
I'm not saying that they agree. I'm not saying that
they've you know, wised up or anything, but I think
they recognize that assaulting a conservative on campus, you know,
five years ago or whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Four years ago, they.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Would have been like, we're Nazi punching, and now it's like,
you might want to watch your butt on that a
little bit. I wouldn't do that. San Francisco State, by
the way, was where Riley had her issue. I'll also
Tommy Laren, who works with us at OutKick, also had
her own issues. Going after women speakers is even particularly
pernicious to me, Like, I'm six foot point eighty. I'm
(32:26):
not claiming that I'm a badass, but I'm bigger than
most of the people that would have an issue with
me on college campuses, let's be honest, and I don't
think they have the bravery to even step two men
as often as they do women. I also love, by
the way, I'd encourage you guys to go listen to
that full conversation the moderator. Definitely, it's so perfect that
(32:46):
she was trying to police my language so often in
the answers that I was giving, and what should have
been an open form.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Well this is.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
It's just like if you're ever dealing with this in
your life in the office or at home, tone police
is the first move.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Of the week argument. I'm just saying, yes, tone I don't.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Like your tone is usually not because what I've said
is correct and you need to have a serious adult
conversation with me. And when a journalist does tone policing
or word policing, it's because they don't want to actually
get into the substance, no doubt, and we come back.
We'll take a couple of your calls, a couple of
your reactions as well. But I want to tell you,
(33:27):
Prize Picks, you got basketball going underway. Unfortunately, my University
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We're going to me closing up shop here shortly on
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Another Florida caller, Clay Florida representing today. What's up, Becky?
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Well, Hi, how you doing.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
We're good, you're on the radio. Nice to talk to you.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
I just wanted to let you guys know I love
your show. Years ago, my husband's mother tried to get
me switched over other Democratic party because she was a
Democrat back in the forties and fifties, and anyway, she
had some dirty tricks played on her when she went
to go vote one time and she switched from Democrats Republican.
(35:55):
So when she my husband took me down into Hilton
Head to meet her that she said she would call
all the time. She'd go Mark Mark, they're from and
she was from Jersey Mark is she repubblicing yet and
she had me. She tried to get me to switch
parties by listening to Glenn back back when he used
(36:16):
to be on Fox News and anyway. So I would
watch Glenn just to see what.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
So why'd you switch? You got twenty seconds?
Speaker 7 (36:25):
Well, I just want to tell you. I love y'all.
Show that the Democratic Party. They didn't just lose Telfy gotberd,
Elon Musk, Robert Kennedy Junior. They lost. They lost me
and a lot of people like me. I'm a gen
xer that just got set up with them.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
All righty, thank you so much, See you tomorrow. Everybody
Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Lots of
news has been breaking, as it will be happening a lot,
and we appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Tulca Gabbard confirmed. RFK Junior on track to be confirmed.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Trump has talked with both Putin and Vladimir Zolensky and
it appears that we are moving towards a potential ceasefire.
We were scheduled right now to be joined by Secretary
of State Marco Rubio. He has now gotten drawn into,
as you might well imagine, a lot of the details
(00:40):
involved in trying to settle the ceasefire.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
He now can't come on live.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
He says he's going to be on tomorrow with us,
so he wanted to let you know he was looking
forward to talking to all of you. Obviously you've had
him on a lot over the years, have not had
him on since he became Secretary of State. But at
the last minute he got called into a meeting, as
you might well imagine, is going on right now surrounding
(01:05):
the Russia Ukraine related details. So he tells us that
he is going to join us tomorrow at this point
in time. And by the way, this is going to
happen a lot. We had Caroline Levitt scheduled I think
last week and then oh, by the way, there's lots
of crazy news that drops and we're going to have
(01:26):
to reschedule. I think you guys are all going to
understand that we're going to have the president on soon again,
and he's probably going to be on with us as scheduled,
but he also might have something that comes up. This
is the difference between being in power, Buck and being
out of power. The administration is moving fast and a
(01:46):
lot of things are taking place on a day to
day basis. So we're going to have the individual's schedule
to talk with us, but you may suddenly get a
change of plans on the fly.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
This show is important.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
We got a millionians listeners, and there's a lot of
respect from the policy community for speaking to all of you.
But if the Secretary of State has got to get
into imminent negotiations to try to end a war that's
been a total carnage scene in Eastern Europe, we get it,
you know what I mean. We're gonna have him when
we can have him. It's okay. He's got big things
to tackle, no doubt, So he is scheduled.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
We'll see if we can get it done tomorrow at
this exact same time. To come on and talk with
us about the latest. Now in real time, Caroline Levitt
has been interacting in the White House with her press briefing.
We've got a couple of a couple of takes just
to update you on exactly what she is saying. This
(02:43):
is talking about DOGE and transparency Cut twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I think it's a real fallacy that there's this alleged
lack of transparency when it comes to DOGE. President Trump
and Elon Musk have been incredibly transparent on what DOGE
is doing. There is an x account with the DOGE hand.
They are tweeting out what they are doing on a
daily basis. They have a website where they are posting
the receipts of the contracts that they are reviewing and
the payments that they have stopped from going out the door.
(03:10):
The secretaries of our departments have stopped from going out
the door. And I would also say that before it
was Elon Musk making our government efficient and accountable, it
was some unnamed bureaucrat that none of you knew.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Elon Musk is the richest man in the world.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
He's also now one of the most highly scrutinized men
in the world, alongside President Trump because of what he's
doing and the access that he is allowing. So there's
great transparency.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Okay, My question for you, Buck would be this, and
we're going to play another cut or two from the
press conference. Other than believing that the government needs to
be better and more efficiently run, what does Elon Musk
gain from all of this? I mean, I think that's
a question worth asking. And when you're already the richest
(03:57):
man in the world, I don't know that I buy
the argument. Oh, Elon Musk is in on this for himself.
It seems to me like he just wants America to
be as efficiently run as possible because he thinks a
strong America makes it more likely.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I'm telling you what.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I think his motivations are for Mars to become a
multi planet, to a satellite outpost of the United States
and of the world and protect us from the whole
civilization being wiped out.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I mean, this is just a question from you.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Are you concerned because the new line of attack is, oh,
Elon Musk has so much power, there's conflicts, He's in
it for himself.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
They're not being transparent.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Frankly, I'm astounded that Elon Musk would want to take
this on. And I actually think it's evidence of Musk's
over arching ambition for humanity more so than it is
some personal like how much more money can he need
when you're already the this man of the world.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
This is why the the complaints that some in the
Democrat media and Democrat politicians are are leveling like he
has he has access.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
To your personal information.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Where can I place bets that Elon Musk isn't going
to steal someone's social so he can set up like
a credit card in their name. I mean, what are
they even talking about the government already has this information
you're so worried about. You think some bureaucrat is is
going to treat it as sacro saying, first of all,
we know that they leaked Donald Trump's tax returns, but
that's totally so. And that's so, But after buck, I
(05:34):
think this is important, after spending years telling you that
what was in his tax returns would make him unelectable
page New York Times.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Nobody cares. It's not that extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
But a bureaucrat did leak totally and I think actually
ended up going to getting a prison sentence for it.
So the the notion that Elon Musk is in any
way a risk to your privacy or identity in that
it's it's just crazy. I mean, this is government data
that the government already has it. He has no interest.
I mean, think about this, you know, and think about
Google and Facebook, these companies that have so much of
(06:08):
your personal information that they're not really actually fascinated with
you as an individual. And Elon Musk is not fascinated
with any individual. He's trying to stop what should be
a universally lauded, a universally praised effort of stopping payment
(06:30):
from going to people. I mean, he explained this Yesterdy
in the Oval Office. There are payments from the Treasury
going to people who are on a do not pay list.
Now that do not pay list exists, so that that
won't happen, but the money's still going to them. Does
anyone want to argue that that money should still go
to them? It seems like for the Democrats. The answer
(06:50):
is yes, and instead of the embarrassment that people who
favor the system so much should have over what the
system is doing, they double and triple down with this
nonsense and act like the way the system operates is perfect.
Anybody who has any problem with what's going on has
bad intentions. I just think this Elon factor in Trump's
(07:17):
administration is like a dream come true for anybody who
is limited government, believes in accountability, you know, wants to
see the spending get under control.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
This is what we need. We need some form of
shock therapy.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
We need somebody who makes rockets and then catches them
as they land.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
We don't need a bureaucrat who spent twenty years looking at.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
The Ledger because they've led us to where we are
right now.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I just want to reiterate, because nobody else is saying it.
Elon voted for Joe Biden in twenty twenty. The media
now wants to convince you that Elon Musk is some
sort of far right wing ideologue. He only voted for
Trump for the first time in twenty twenty four. This
(08:03):
idea that Elon has been some dark and sinister right
He didn't endorse Trump buck until right after the assassination
attempt in July. He wasn't even a Trump guy until
July of twenty twenty four. He has supported Trump now
publicly for seven months of his entire life. I do
(08:26):
think this is worth like kind of reiterating. If anything,
what this speaks to is Trump's willingness to bring in
people that he thinks have supreme talent to try to
make America great again.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Right. I actually think this is Trump's.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Superpower, is that he's willing to bring in Elon Musk
and give him the keys to make a difference because
he sees his talents, even though Elon in twenty sixteen
and twenty twenty actually voted against Trump.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Look, Tim Cook is a Democrat, right, CEO of Asphole.
I think it's well known he's a Democrat. And if
you had had a DEMO, if you had had a
Democrat administration come in and say we're gonna have Tim
Cook look at like the security of government devices and
encryption for important government systems, I would say, oh, that
(09:19):
makes sense. I mean, he's somebody who understands and has
high level access to the highest level access to those
kinds of systems and is doing it incredibly successfully on
a global scale for a trillion dollar company. That's Elon.
It's just it's a Republican and not a Democrat in office, right.
I mean, this is if you were to switch Elon
out with a handful of people who, quite honestly, I
(09:40):
don't think are as impressive or skilled as Elon is,
but they're in that same category, I'd say, Wow, Democrats
are actually doing something that makes sense here. This is
what we need. We need somebody with true domain expertise.
Isn't it fascinating?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Clay? You got these people that are all, oh, but
why why are we putting forward.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Cash for I mean Cash was like a federal prosecutor
for many, many years, and he's done all kinds of
things that prepare him for the FBI. But they question
the qualifications of some of Trump's nominees for cabinet positions,
I think unfairly, but they do. And then you bring
in somebody to do doge who is arguably the most
qualified person on the planet, the most impressive and qualified
(10:19):
person on the planet, and you know what they're doing.
They're arguing over process issues and they're just whining about it.
They're complaining because they can't make an argument.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I'll even take it a step further, like he wouldn't
have done it because he was the worst president in
our lives. But if Joe Biden had brought in Elon
Musk and said, hey, federal spending got out of control
during COVID, I think we've wasted a lot of money.
I want the most brilliant minds in American capitalism to
be looking at how we spend money and making sure
that we're not wasting taxpayer funds. I would have said, yeah,
(10:54):
that makes sense, right. I mean, Biden made awful decisions
across the board. But my point on that is Elon
voted for Biden. In theory, Joe Biden could have had
a good relationship with Elon Musk and used his talents
to try to make the American government better than it
otherwise would have been to me, Tulca Gabbert getting confirmed,
(11:17):
r Ifk Junior about to get confirmed Elon Musk. This
is evidence of a remade Republican Party and a profoundly
new big tent that is focused on common sense, logical results.
And I think that's why Trump's approval ratings buck are
the highest level of his political career. I mean, look,
Mark Fogel, is there anybody opposed to getting Americans who
(11:41):
are charged abundantly more so than they otherwise would be
by foreign countries back? Trump got what six people back
from Venezuela, just announced a new American hostage from Belarus
is being returned. Mark Fogel kissing the ground when he
got back. Most of what Trump is doing, I would argue,
(12:01):
is just hyper rational, logical, not even particularly partisan, smart
decisions that the president should be making.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's fiscal sanity and rule of law. It's let's look
at what we're spending money on. Are we spending money
on smart things? And should people that commit crimes who
are not even supposed to be in this country still
be in the country even though we all agree it
is absolutely illegal for them to be in the country.
They're in violation of law. These are very straightforward things.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
This is not like hyper partisan, hyper ideological stuff, although
it is the Democrats because they're insane. That's the problem
with being totally nuts. When you're totally nuts, you can't
see things straight. So you know, they should.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Probably get it together.
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Speaker 3 (14:06):
Hi, welcome back in everybody.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
We've got Caroline Levitt addressing the press corps in the
West Wing of the White House doing a press conference.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
What a shift in transparency has occurred from the Abiden administration,
which was all just stage managed in order to hide
reality and the truth from people, to the Trump administration,
where you get constant access to President Trump, constant access
to his top people.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It's very refreshing.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I would think, well for anybody who's looking at it objectively,
we got some calls coming in. Let's take Linda in
Sunny Florida. What's going on, Linda?
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Hey, this is Linda. I just wanted to make a comment.
You know, I'm one of the seventy seven million I've
voted for President Trump. I voted Anon, and I know
from his first that when he says he's going to
do something, he's going to do it. And now, you know,
I feel better knowing our tax dollars are not going
(15:09):
to be just flying out the door after what we're
seeing that you know, we're paying. It's unbelievable. And all
the billions to Ukraine and the millions to house migrants
are boreder. You know, Americans in western North Carolina lived
in a pitch tent and five degree weather. You know,
(15:33):
I am just like And now the Democrats and the
mainstream media or legacy media are scaring people. They're wanting
to scare them into thinking that whatever Elon Musk is doing,
which they are being totally transparent, is somehow going to
take away their social security or give away their private information.
(15:54):
They're scaring them like they always do. And so I
just wanted to say that, you know, anybody that's up
in arms about it in the governments, you got to
wonder where you know that's coming from. Unless it's Rod.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, Linda, I would say this. There's there's clearly a
large contingent of left wing groups, activists, causes who have
created this infrastructure of funding via taxpayers who don't know
about this funding. And that's why. So that's why they're
upset about It's very clear. And a lot of them
have friends in DC, and they have friends who work
(16:34):
for the media outlets, and some of the media outlets.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I mean, the Politico pro thing is is just preposterous.
By the way, it's just preposterous. Brian in Cleveland wants
the way and Brian, what you got for us?
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Hey, my pleasure, gentlemen talking to you, my privilege. Hey,
I want to talk about a couple of quick things.
First of all, the musk motivation. Everyone has a motivation. Well,
when you get to the statue of him, I think
most people how we grew up, we always groomed. What
kind of car you drive, what kind of house you live,
and what kind of bank accounts you have, and what
you have left at the end of the week really
motivates people. And I think that's ninety five percent of
(17:06):
the public's motivation. What's in it for him using a
monetary sports right, Well, you know what there could How
about just doing the right thing. I left private business
a few years ago. My wife and I started a
charity and I'm not going to get into that. But
no one gets paid, no one has all donations. We
helped sixty thousand people in the area last year. And
(17:28):
I guess my question is why do I do it?
I have friends who asked, why do.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
You do it.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
What's in it for you? Well, it doesn't have to
be a monetary fix, right, you're.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Appreaching to the thanks first of all, thank you for
what you do. You're preaching the choir here. I think
Elon Musk is giving back. That's why the attacks on.
What is his motivation? I think his motivation is he
just wants America to be a sounder, more concretely successful
financial entity. I mean that seems like the only possible
(17:55):
solution for what could be going on. Look traveling a lot,
you know what can help energy? I went to and
from Chicago yesterday, spoke at the University of Chicago. We're
going to play some of those clips and we come
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thanks for holding down the shop. I was invited to
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speak on a pay at the University of Chicago, very
left wing university, which, to their credit, says that they
are committed to the marketplace of ideas, and the fact
that I was invited, I think was a testament to that.
I did, not, however, decide to tiptoe into the event.
So I want to set the table. Buck has not
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heard any of this. I bet most of you have not.
There are hundreds of people there. A few of our
listeners came after I tweeted about it was great to
meet them. But this is a ninety five percent commal
of voting audience, mostly young female audience, that was not
very receptive to my arguments. I did not tiptoe up
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to it. The moderator was a left wing editor from
the Atlantic who also had worked at NPR, and I
want to give.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You a sense.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
This is Towards the end it got a little bit chaotic,
but this was me calling out the Atlantic.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I think think you guys will enjoy it. This is
cut three.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Sixty percent of college graduates now are women, right right,
So it is impossible. Sorry, girls, for every woman, there
are no girls here.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Girls, boys, you're girls.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
And boys to me too, as well as men and women.
You know, I know it's policing. Language is a big
part of what the Atlantic does.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Now we do it out kick. Atlantic is barely liberal.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
So yes, yes, also also has never made a profit
without a multi billionaire running it, which is worth knowing too.
But unlike my company, which is wildly profitable because we
speak to a big audience to people. But I do
think if you look at sixty percent of women graduating
from college, forty percent are men.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
The math doesn't add up.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Okay, buck, that was like I didn't tiptoe up to it.
There she's cutting me off because I'm saying, hey, for
all the boys and girls, and oh they're women. She
constantly was correcting my language, and so finally I just
decided I'm just taking the gloves and flat out telling
the truth here, which is The Atlantic is a left
wing propaganda outlet that has never actually made a profit
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and has a billionaire owner. And I don't know that
very many people have ever called out an editor for
The Atlantic in a public forum like that. But I
don't think I would have done it unless she had
been like, they're not girls, They're not girls. And earlier
she was, you know, kind of coming after me on
language too, So that is emblematic. Now you could hear
the reaction. There was a lot of titters of dismay.
(21:33):
Let me also hit you with a couple of more
of these elements, and then I'll explain why I went.
I want to get your reaction to these couple of
things as well. Buck here is here.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I am. What's the first one this is talking about.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Let me pull up the audio clips here because I'm
not sure exactly what we have. This is me talking
about COVID and saying, for a lot of young people,
this is a failure like Vietnam was for kids who
were growing up in the sixties.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Listen to cut One.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
One of the guys that brought me here today said
COVID shut down his school in March of twenty twenty,
and most of the kids in his school he's a junior,
didn't ever return to school. We failed an entire generation
of young people, and I think when you have lived
through that, you have a lot less credit and faith
(22:22):
in the government. Just like historically, and I'm a history nerd,
it took a very long time. If you went through
the Vietnam War, which maybe I can't see everybody's face.
Maybe there's some of you out there that actually had
to go through the draft where you set and watch
to see whether or not you're going to be sent
to carry a gun and walk around in a jungle
and get shot at. When you live through that, you
might be pretty skeptical. In the sixties and seventies of
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the government, I think COVID for this generation of young
men in particular, who got locked up, who weren't allowed
to play sports, all of this, they're angry and when
they see Trump, he seems like an avatar for their anger.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Okay, I think that's rational.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
They weren't happy about that, and then I asked a
question that really got them riled up, and she had
to interrupt. Who is the most masculine democrat the conversation
was about gender roles in the election, and Bucky asked, Yeah,
before we get to the generals, I just wanted to
say on your point about about Vietnam.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I mean, what the correlation or the the the what's
the word? I'm looking for analogy? Thank you? There we go.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Analogy to COVID I think is particularly apt because you know,
there's that David Halberstam book, The Best and the Brightest
about Vietnam, and you know, we were led to believe
that the smartest military minds, the smartest foreign policy minds,
you know, they were on it, and there was a
great reason for us to be doing this. And sure enough,
in that generation, those who fought in Vietnam paid a
(23:48):
terrible price by being embroiled in that war.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
With COVID.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I mean, the experts that you would think you could
trust the most with the least of politicization would be
health experts. I mean that what pre COVID I would
have said that, and he said to me, who can
you trust in the government. That's gonna shoot pretty straight.
Although I knew about FAUCI and HIV and all that
stuff from back in the day, but put that aside.
I would have said, Look, I think that the overall
(24:16):
that health experts really we all want our family members
and our kids to be safe from you know, disease
and pandemics, et cetera. And they completely shattered that to
the point now where I mean, have you told me
that you could, like just you could bulldoze the FBI
and salt the earth and do something else, or bulldoze
the CDC. I mean, I think the CDC is number
(24:36):
one on my list. I think Fauci is the most
damaging and destructive bureaucrat in the history of the United States.
As we're looking at what happened. I know he was
at Naiad, which is part of the NIH but it's
all all the same circle of awfulness. So yeah, no,
I think that it also radicalized a lot of people
further to the right than I think they ever thought possible,
(24:57):
which was a clearly a consequent of Clay. I remember, sorry,
this is just going to come back sometimes. I remember
I got on a plane and the airline attendant told
me that my mask looked too thin, and then she
said you have to put this one on over it,
and I just said, okay, well, I'll just put that
(25:19):
mask on instead, and she said no. And I said,
why do I have to wear the two thin mask
with the masker giving me? And she said for safety.
And I was like, well, if the mask you're giving
me isn't safe, then why are you giving it to me?
And at that point I could tell in her eyes
she was about to ban me from the airlines. Yes,
so you know that's what these people were. That's who
(25:40):
they were. And by the way they would have been
informing on their neighbors in East Germany, they would have
been calling out their parents to the KGB in the
Soviet Union. That is, it is the same species, the
same type of person.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
And I think that is one reason why young men
are rebelling against authority figures, because they've been wronged in
just like in Vietnam. To your point, Buck, the best
in the brightest said hey, trust us take this machine
gun and go walk around in a jungle and try
and avoid getting blown up by the via Cong. And
(26:14):
if you came back from that war you might have
been a little bit skeptical about governmental authority, much less
significant in terms of physical risk to young men. But
if you didn't get to finish your junior year of
high school and young women too. By the way, you
didn't get to go to prom, you didn't get to
play football or basketball or whatever sport you loved, and
(26:36):
you later found out it was all bs. Would you
be wanting to cheer lead the Democrat Party? I don't
think you would. And I think that's one of the
resonant impacts of COVID that a lot of people aren't
addressing that did. As these kids get old enough to vote,
they're angry at the world and they want to channel
that anger. And I think Trump channels it to them,
(26:58):
certainly far better than common Mala Harris did or any
other Democrat figure. Philosophically, it's also a very good thing
and a free society to have most of your you know,
high functioning citizens, high functioning individuals in your society, to
reject the false security of consensus on issues of debate.
(27:20):
The notion that you can just fall back onto consensus
is a trap. It is a fallacy. It is either
true or it is not true. It does not matter
how many people say the untrue thing. And I think
COVID was a huge reminder of that. Now, gender are you,
are you about to make some libs cry over gender.
Here is the final clip and then we'll have some fun.
By the way, if you guys want to react, this
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was I asked the question who's the most masculine Democrat?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And it did not make the room happy? Enjoy Who
is the.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Most masculine democrat right now in America?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
And there's Mayor Pete? Is that a gay job?
Speaker 5 (27:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
No, Mayor p No, Well no, it's just that he's
not particularly masculine. Nobody's like, oh, he's a badass Chuck Schumer.
Is anybody like, hey, you know Chuck Schumer holding up
an avocado and a beer to talk about the Super
Bowl as anybody like that's trying to grill. Is anybody like, hey,
that's a dude I want to hang out with.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
But Trump's like a grandpa? Well hold on.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Trump took a bullet in his ear and immediately stood
up and said fight, fight, fight. Every man in America
and most of the women out here were impressed by that,
even if the women won't admit it.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
She's shaking her head strong, were audience members. Oh yeah,
crowd work now, Oh yeah, I'm doing crowd work.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Some woman out there was shaking her head that she
wasn't impressed by Trump taking a bullet saying fight, fight,
fight if you want to be entertained, and I think
a lot of you will be entertained by it, because
here's why I did it, Buck, and I want to
see if you think this is this is smart. It's
easy to preach to the choir. And I love the
fact that many of you out there that we get
to talk to the millions of you every day. You
have spent four years with us, you may well have
(28:58):
spent thirty three years with Rush before, or you are
a part of a large coalition. You don't agree on everything,
but you have open minds and you're willing to have
a conversation with us for three hours every day. Most
of the kids in that room, most of the kids
in that room had never heard any of the arguments
that I made. And maybe maybe ninety percent of them
(29:19):
left saying that Clay Travis is a neanderthal like But
maybe ten percent of them, maybe twenty percent of them.
Their minds are young enough and malleable enough that some
of the things that I said, and some of the
arguments that I made, maybe it just seedes there. Maybe
(29:39):
it makes them listen a little bit more to arguments
that they might not have otherwise heard. Fuck, maybe it
just makes them aware that the argument even exists itself,
because they're in such an island of insolarity that they
don't actually experience the larger debates of society. So one
of my goals for twenty twenty five, now that we've
(30:02):
won the election, to the extent that I can do it,
and obviously has to fit the schedule and radio and
everything else, is I'd like to go out the college
campuses and talk to kids, to these audiences, even if
they hate me, to try to open their minds to
a larger marketplace.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Because I do think we have the better arguments. I
just think a lot of these kids aren't hearing them.
And so anyway, that's my idea. I don't know if
you think that's crazy, but this is my idea of
what I want to do. No, I look, I think
it's a great idea. And I also think that there's
a difference now some years ago Clay trying to do that.
And it's so funny to me because the Conservatives who
(30:40):
have been doing that, and there are some who have
really kind of built their careers on going into college
campuses and speaking. The more the lunatics with the purple
hair and the nose rings scream and shriek and pound
the yes the doors, the more news coverage and the
more it just turns into a pr win for the conservative.
But there have been cases is where people who aren't
(31:01):
that high profile have gone to some of these schools,
and I means it has actually become a security risk
because the left wing loons are so outrageous. You know,
they they're pulling fire alarms, they're throwing things, they're you know,
they're they actually assaulted. I think it was Charles Murray
uh and and a female professor. I want to say
this was a Dartmouth college some year buck Riley Gaines
(31:25):
got attacked at San Jose State University, I think it was. Yeah,
I think it was Middlebury by the way. Anyway, I
can't remember what the school was. But these things happened, happening.
I don't think that same ferocity on the left will
be on display, not because they've changed their minds. They're
still lunatics, but they realize that the country is not
(31:46):
really not with them, you know, they're they're a little
bit more, a little bit more on their back heels.
I'm not saying that they agree. I'm not saying that
they've you know, wised up or anything, but I think
they recognize that assaulting a conservative on campus, you know,
five years ago or whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Four years ago, they.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Would have been like, we're Nazi punching, and now it's like,
you might want to watch your butt on that a
little bit. I wouldn't do that. San Francisco State, by
the way, was where Riley had her issue. I'll also
Tommy Laren, who works with us at OutKick, also had
her own issues. Going after women speakers is even particularly
pernicious to me, Like, I'm six foot point eighty. I'm
(32:26):
not claiming that I'm a badass, but I'm bigger than
most of the people that would have an issue with
me on college campuses, let's be honest, and I don't
think they have the bravery to even step two men
as often as they do women. I also love, by
the way, I'd encourage you guys to go listen to
that full conversation the moderator. Definitely, it's so perfect that
(32:46):
she was trying to police my language so often in
the answers that I was giving, and what should have
been an open form.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Well this is.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
It's just like if you're ever dealing with this in
your life in the office or at home, tone police
is the first move.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Of the week argument. I'm just saying, yes, tone I don't.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Like your tone is usually not because what I've said
is correct and you need to have a serious adult
conversation with me. And when a journalist does tone policing
or word policing, it's because they don't want to actually
get into the substance, no doubt, and we come back.
We'll take a couple of your calls, a couple of
your reactions as well. But I want to tell you,
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We're going to me closing up shop here shortly on
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Another Florida caller, Clay Florida representing today. What's up, Becky?
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Well, Hi, how you doing.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
We're good, you're on the radio. Nice to talk to you.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
I just wanted to let you guys know I love
your show. Years ago, my husband's mother tried to get
me switched over other Democratic party because she was a
Democrat back in the forties and fifties, and anyway, she
had some dirty tricks played on her when she went
to go vote one time and she switched from Democrats Republican.
(35:55):
So when she my husband took me down into Hilton
Head to meet her that she said she would call
all the time. She'd go Mark Mark, they're from and
she was from Jersey Mark is she repubblicing yet and
she had me. She tried to get me to switch
parties by listening to Glenn back back when he used
(36:16):
to be on Fox News and anyway. So I would
watch Glenn just to see what.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
So why'd you switch? You got twenty seconds?
Speaker 7 (36:25):
Well, I just want to tell you. I love y'all.
Show that the Democratic Party. They didn't just lose Telfy gotberd,
Elon Musk, Robert Kennedy Junior. They lost. They lost me
and a lot of people like me. I'm a gen
xer that just got set up with them.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
All righty, thank you so much, See you tomorrow. Everybody
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