May 11, 2025 • 30 mins
Are white, college educated women brainwashed? Dr. Laura gives the guys some sage advice and talks about being a positive fluence.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
The Sunday Hang with Playing Buck podcast starts now the
sharing this data from Steve Kornaki and I was just
laying it out. College educated white women they hate Trump.
They're the only group of white voters that hates Trump.
In fact, he has a positive review of everybody else.
And the difference between white men with no college degree
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and white women with college degrees has probably never been
more expansive, huge difference. White women with college degrees hate Elon,
they hate Doge Uh, they hate the Republican Party, they
love Zolensky, and they also Buck love DEI. So, basically,
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white women with college degrees as a group, I know
there are many white women with college degrees that are
listening to us right now, are divergent from every other
white person in America in a massive way. White men
with college degrees are not similar to white women with
college degrees, and certainly white women and men without college
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degrees are not similar at all either. A bunch of
people want to weigh in and Let's start with Lois
in Raleigh, North Carolina. What do you think is to
explain this?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. I am a
college educated woman with a master's degree in education administration.
I worked until thirty nine, got married, and had my son.
I love Trump, And I think maybe some of these women,
because I know some are very angry. Maybe they're even
kind of intimidating and so are they kind of put
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people off a little. I don't know, but that's been
my experience. But I loved and I'm a college educated
woman and white.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Right. Well, we know, we know there are a lot
of we know there are a lot of you out there.
I'm curious. I mean when you say, did you have peers,
you know, women who were in your program, let's say
your master's program, Like, what what has their experience been?
Because you said, I think you got married at thirty nine,
you had a kid, you know, it all worked out
for you, right, But do you have a lot of
people from your master's program who maybe never were able
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to start a family, or feel like they spent too
much time in the library or whatever. I'm curious what
your general conception or perception is.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Well, I guess my perception is I felt they they
sort of gave this go away. I'm strong, I'm tough,
I'm not vulnerable that type of thing.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And do you think that was because they were told
that they should compete with men in the workplace in
a way that was unhealthy? I mean, what's your analysis
of it?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Oh, I think it's unhealthy because I wanted to be
married and have a child and be a college educated woman.
I wanted to have all of that, and I did.
I just had to wait.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, okay, I've got a good email here, Thank you
for the call. By the way, with you, I can
mention my wife has double graduate degrees and voted for Trump.
So obviously there are a lot of people out there
in that camp.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
But but again on the on the outlier thing, you know,
Mark Zuckerberg didn't finish college and is one of the
richest people on the planet. That doesn't mean that like
people shouldn't get an education, right like, you know, it
doesn't or that you shouldn't finish college if you think
that's going to be good for you. You know, the exception
is not the rule.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
The outlier typically is an outlier for a reason. Good
email here, from Katie. She says, howdy from San Antonio.
College educated Gigamaggie's means she's a tex A and M grad.
I'm a white woman here voted for Trump, and what
I'm interested in is why you think women, not what
you did, but why you think these numbers do reflect
the truth. There are a lot of people who disagree
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with you. Here's her explanation. Many of my childhood friends
turned extremely liberal while in college. Then they moved into
urban suburban areas around Dallas, Austin, and Houston. All of
my white college educated liberal friends are extremely vocal on
social media about the same issues abortion, the Alphabet Crew, nonsense,
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and above all, pandering to the race social causes like BLM.
It's like they fall all over each other to show
who is the most apologetic for being white and who
adopts the most pets from their local shelter. Their need
to fill morally superior is unmatched. I think that's a
(04:35):
really great email that actually makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, high five to who was the author of that one.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Vid Katie Gigamaggie's good luck to Texas, A and M
in the tournament based on this. She also said by
the way Texas A and M one of the exceptions,
mostly conservative school, especially compared to that Orange school in Austin,
taking a little bit of a shot at University of Texas.
But it is interesting that it's like for college educated women,
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their social stature is a competition to see who can
appear the most emotionally.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Empathetic and may well drive it. I think that the
emotional blackmail that we are all put through in college
by the woke machinery is particularly effective on women. I
just think that, again, that doesn't mean that all women
succumb to it. It just means that I think that
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women are more likely because they're more Look, can we
can speak about these things honestly, right? Women tend to
be more empathetic. Women tend to be more in touch
with their feelings, you know. In general, Okay, I need
some woman to call like I could bench press you
buck like I'm sure you can. But generally speaking, women
are more when full macho man Randy Savage.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
That's the that's the lesbian woman from the Democrat Party
that picked Tim Walls as the man to appeal to.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
You get what you get what I'm putting down. But
I think that women want to be and I'm talking
about college women in college or of that age. Obviously
they want to be empathetic. They want to be sympathetic,
they want to do what they can for other people,
and they are told that to be good people. To
be good people, you have to identify with these cousin
(06:21):
of Clay. A perfect example of this Zelenski. The college
educated women love little Zolenski. Give me more money. I'm
here for Donald Trump in my T shirt. Like, the
whole thing is bizarre when you think about this. Also,
what are these college educated women know about what it
means to be somewhere where you could get blown up
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by an ied or shot by a sniper rifle, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. And yet they're the ones that
are so all in on this Ukraine war situation. Like,
think about this for a second. The guys who has fought,
who has fought a lot of Americans work Now. I
have friends who come from very well off backgrounds who
were in the Army and in the Marines too, So
(07:03):
I'm not I'm not saying again we're speaking generalities here, Okay,
working class men are the ones who fight America's wars.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Rich Man's poor man's fight has been a phrase for
hundreds of years, and it's true.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
In the world it is, you know, eighteen year olds
from working class backgrounds, who are the ones signing up
fighting our wars. I don't think anybody would find this
a controversial statement. It is the truth. And it's interesting
that they like Trump the guy who's trying to end
the war, and white college educated women are the ones
who are like Slava Ukrainy, like fight till the very end.
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The guys know that this stuff is nasty and you
want to end it as fast as possible. This is
not a video game.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Mary in San Marcos, Texas, what's your theory on what's
going on here?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I think they're spoiled brats. I think they think they're enabled,
and they think that they're better, and they think that
they're going to do whatever they think they want to do.
They are using the female card. I'm in my sixties
that it took me a while to get my degree,
but I worked my butt off to get my degree,
literally because we didn't have federal loans then we had
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to pay it as we went. But I very much
earned my degree. I am a degree from Texas A
and M Corpus Christi, Texas, but I am a teacher.
I retired after twenty five years. But before that, I
was a mechanic in an oil refinery. I was a
mechanic in ad laboratories medical manufacturing system. As I said,
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I worked my butt off. And these ladies that are
doing this, they couldn't be bothered by dirting their hands
doing menial work waitressing, or working in a kitchen, or
working h in some kind of hands on product. They're little,
you know, little Mistucci's doing what they want to do
because I'm a female and I can do this, and
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you know you have to hire me because I'm entitled. No,
you're not.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Thank you for the call. I love it, thank you
for the call.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I do think there's a generational divide here, right, because
a lot of women college graduates are recent women college graduates,
meaning in the last twenty or thirty years. As now
women get way more college degrees in question, for you, Buck,
are women, because of social media, far more likely to
be susceptible to what their friends do and say than
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men are.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Like I don't know about you.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
But I love it really and Clay and I hear
experts on women. I just think it's kind of funny. Yes,
I'm just having I'm just having a go at you. Yes,
I think that you are correct. I think that the
I see this all the time. Can I just tell
you something, you know, I have I still have some
friends who are single and I and I love hearing about,
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you know, their story. It's great to hear their story, right,
It's it's like hearing about people who are out there
in the jungle trying to find the tiger still, you know,
like I'm I'm safe.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And I got an older.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Brother who's who's a fantastic guy and a very lhm bachelor.
Great catch, just thrown it out there, great catch, Mason,
my older brother, and and he's still single. But you know,
I've got a bunch of friends down here as well
who are all single guys. And Clay. The number of
women who think it's really appealing to tell guys that
their great life life aspiration is to travel is insane
(10:31):
to me. This is this is entirely a product of
Instagram culture and getting the likes. And I'm in tou
Loom and I'm in Barcelona, and I'm in all these places,
and all my friends think I'm living this great life.
Traveling is a thing you do once in a while
to do a reset from your actual life.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And yeah, sound like an Instagram influencer chick right now.
I kind of think they're right. I love to travel.
I want to go everywhere. That's what I want to do.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
No, I want to just travel over the place you're.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Going to see me, like on the edge of a
cliff taking a selfie, like look at the sea in
the background.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
We need doctor Laura. Where's doctor Laura. We need her
to weigh in on this.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
But I do think that first of all, I have
no idea what my friends say on social media, Like
I use social media.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
If you were trying to find you found, you found
a great woman and built a beautiful family in a.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Real young world where you meet face to face like
in law school, like most people used to meet face
to face. But so I the whole dating on the
internet thing was like predates me.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So, but I'm saying if you if you met a
girl in you know, not Laura, if you had met
somebody before you met Laura and you said, hey, like,
you know, what do you want to do? Just like
I just want to travel. Now you think that's a
you think, no, not not. I want to build a family.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
I like to travel. Now, what I wanted to hear.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You're a man, you don't count now I'm talking about
when you were single.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Oh yeah, No, what I wanted to hear was I
want to have a ton of kids. Yeah, that's what
I would want to hear.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
So you agree with me your whole I love to
try clay, Yeah, like cause you're you know, I've already
a totally different.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But but I do think the thing that I wanted
to hear was, Hey, I want to have a bunch
of kids. And that's what had appeal to me. And
if you're I guess I'm thinking like twenty five year
old day if you're like thirty five and you meet
somebody and like, what do you want to do with
your life? Like I want to travel. That's a little
bit weird person. There's a lot I've had. This is
what I'm telling you. There are a lot of women
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in their thirties who their aspiration is their life aspiration
again as they're presenting it on social media and on
dating apps or whatever, is I want to travel, And
I just think that this is this mindset of this,
the self actualization through selfies is really damaging.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
I think it's totally true. Here's another question for you.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Do you think women are more impacted by negativity on
social media? Like, in other words, anything that we post,
if you want to go into the mentions, you can
find five or six people that are like, kill yourself,
I hope.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
You die, right?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I mean, that is very common on social media, particularly
Twitter compared to Instagram. How much of this is just
a fear of anybody disagreeing with them in a desperate way.
Women are far more socially savvy than men are. Like
I don't know when I'm getting the cold shoulder. I
don't notice because I'm not savvy enough to notice it
in many respects. And I do think women are more,
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far more tuned. And I wonder my thought on this
is what would Trump have been like in a non
social media era.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
We are fired up here on this topic, as are
so many of you. You're calling in, you're writing in
all over the place we have. Is this a call?
Christine and cape con, Christine and tech con, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Hi?
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Well? I am I have two children in their twenties
raised them in affluent Massachusetts. I have a master's degree
to successful companies. Although I'm a Republican, all of my
best friends that I raised my children with were crazy Liberals.
And to the point of where what I think is
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going on and what I saw in our community is
that boys have been totally emasculated as well as men,
And for the most part, most of the men in
our community were raised to be very effeminate, to not
be aggressive, to not be real men, to not be
do sexual advances, advances for concern over being aggressive or
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for it to be looked at as you know, rapists
or whatever, and so I think young boys are are
not are told not to be that way. And so
when all of these women are confronted with a real
man who is aggressive, who is all, you know, playing
outside and wrestling and all of that, they are like
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a gast. Well, boys shouldn't be that way. Men shouldn't
be that way. So Trump, super fascinating man, I think,
is looked upon as that. And so I think, and
certainly like my daughter who is in Cambridge and went
to school in Boston, all of the men were very effeminate.
So you have all of these women who and the
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women in my community. We were all lucky enough to
raise our children at home, so they were leading very
feminine roles within their households. How you know, it's staying home,
taking care of their kids, all of that. Yet we
were telling our kids to not be that way. Don't
assume those roles. Girl, you you know, get that abortion
if you want that abortion. And boys don't be don't wrestle,
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don't do that.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, they masculinize the women. Actually, the young women are
being told to act more like men, and men are
being told to act more like women. It's part of
the whole gender confusion in this country. Great call, great call,
Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Sunday with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Doctor Ruh Schlessinger, who recently celebrated fifty years on the radio.
She is a best selling author. She's also auctioning off
some handmade items to support children of fallen patriots. Go
to doctor Laura dot com for more of that Again
doctor Laura dot com. Doctor Laura, I just say it's
an honor to speak to you because I've been hearing
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your voice ever since I got married, because my wife
is a longtime doctor Laura listener, and let me tell you,
I am very thankful. I am very thankful for it.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Well, then she's your girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
She's the best. She's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I come home and we got married, and I came
home and there's dinner on the table, and I say, honey,
I want to go to the shooting range with the guys.
She says, you need guye time. You know all these
rules and lessons, And then I found this book, their
Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands, which is dog eared
and underlined and everything else. I tell you, I got
married a little later in life, doctor Laura. So I
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got married around forty I think it was forty one.
And my wife has absolutely loved my life. She's absolutely fantastic.
We're about to have a baby in a couple of weeks,
so everything is going. And I really want to have
you on in part just to thank you because and
this comes from my wife as well. I think you
give so many women such incredibly important and powerful advice
(17:22):
for them to have great, meaningful lives as wives, as mothers.
Is so I'm always whenever Carrie starts saying doctor Laura says,
I start nod of my head. YEP, that's great. She
sent in my wife's So I just got to tell
you this. It's the truth. My wife's sent in a
question for you. In Clay's wife, Laura has a question too.
She says, Hi, doctor Laura. I'm a longtime listener and
(17:44):
read the Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands. I also
took the online course. Your wisdom has not only made
me the wife i am today, but also led me
to find an incredible husband who adores me. Fact check true.
In a couple of weeks, we will be welcoming our
first child. We're so thrilled to grower. But what is
your advice for ensuring our solid and healthy marriage stays
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intact after the first baby comes. Thank you for all
you do.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
You don't stop having your hands all over each other.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
That means when you're walking around, That means when one
of you takes a shower, maybe we could, you know,
save on water.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
We could both be in the shower.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
It's really the physicality and the silliness. Everybody thinks it's
got to be marital therapy and heavy duty conversations with
you and I both know guys don't enjoy.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
So the more.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
Physical you are with each other, and the more cute
you are with each other.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
That's really all you need.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
That's really good advice.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Now I don't even know what my wife has sent in,
but there is audio. She went and used the app
and then she needed more space, so.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
She said, just give context. Pray.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
How long?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
How long have you been married? Tell doctor Laura how
I have been Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So I've been married, uh man, twenty one years will
be August. So I've been married over twenty years now.
We have three boys, seventeen, fourteen, and ten year old.
And here is what my wife, Lara wanted to ask you.
Speaker 9 (19:10):
Listen, Clay and I are parents of boys, and thus
far I think we have weathered adolescents fairly well. However,
some of our friends who have daughters, their experiences, the
way they talk about it sound very different. In fact,
some of them say, raising daughters through adolescents is a
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complete nightmare. I have a friend this morning tell me
that she feels she's coming home to a bag of
snakes every day when she comes home to her adolescent daughters,
which is funny but harsh. So, in general, do you
have some great advice for parents going through adolescents with
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their children? Obviously, the children are going through adolescents, and
do you have different advice for parents of girls weathering
adolescens versus parents of boys weathering adolescence.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Thank you, I thought you were just going to have
me on for a few minutes. That's going to take.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Me about half an hour I get through.
Speaker 8 (20:14):
Let me try to bring it down number one, whether
it's a boy or a girl, that it's a tight
family that does things together, that is sweet with each other.
That the father spends time with the daughter, that father
spends time with the son, the mother spends time and
the family is always together for dinner if they have
to go do sports.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
Things or what have you.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
That you know that's a very important part of the family.
People keep divvying it up. Yeah, there are differences in
how you raise girls from boys, and I'd have to
come back another time to go through that. But the
first and foremost thing, just like I spoke about husbands
and wives and the physical and the cuteness, the I
was with a family and I thought, and I talked
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about them on my air, that this was the best
family I.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
Had seen in decades.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
Anytime anybody got something, may I would you send me?
Speaker 7 (21:09):
Could I have yes, please, thank you.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
Everybody was so concerned and polite to one another. That
is not something that families do. You have two career families.
You have all kinds of other stuff going on in
the house, and it's not a family, it's mother and
father and kids. But when it's a family, when people
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are always saying please and thank you and show concern
for each other and discipline and kind ways with understanding
and compassion, you'd be surprised how it minimizes how crazy
it gets. And also take your kids out of public school.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Wow, doctor Laurie, We're definitely gonna have to have you back,
and I'm really looking forward to all the questions and
comments we're gonna get from the audience about you coming
on and just beginning this arc of wisdom. And like
I said, as a husband and a very happy husband
who does completely adore his wife, and I you know,
it's it's so important that I think women get a
lot of the messaging and men and men, but that
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we both get a lot of the messaging that you're
putting out there. And I wanted you to address something
that's more just sort of general for the country right now,
you know, we talk here about politics and national security
and education, all these different things, but the importance of
family and marriage is central. Should be central, Maybe should
be is a better word these days. You know, there's
a story just out today and it says, and the
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headline is American women are giving up on marriage, And
one of the lines from it is American women have
never been this resigned to staying signal single. They are
responding to major demographic shifts, including huge and growing gender
gaps in economic and education attainment, and beliefs about what
a family should look like. What is going on and
how do we fix it?
Speaker 8 (22:53):
Not enough fathers in the home raising sons to be
men of honor and courage and prince of And that's basically.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
Again, the women have gone through the feminist.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
Thing where men are the evil empire and all this
negativity toward masculinity.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
It's all toxic. I think it's wonderful.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
Give me a guy with the cowboy hat and boots,
and I pay attention because there's a sense that there's
a strength there. And women like to feel protected. That's
probably the number one thing women don't admit. They want
to feel protected, and that's why they like those silly
books where there's this ripped guy on the cover and
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she's being carried you into safety. Why do they read
those things at such large amounts Because ultimately, as smart
and incompetent as we can be, we want to be protected.
And men have not been brought up to be that anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Are you more of You've been doing this for fifty years,
and Buck just laid out a marriage is becoming less common.
A lot of men and are not presentent homes. Unfortunately,
the overall birth rate in many Western civilizations is collapsing.
Are you more or less optimistic about the future of
the family unit today than when you started? How would
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you analyze the scope of relationship that you've seen over
fifty years.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (24:21):
No'm I was more optimistic than that. I am now
because there have been so many forces. We have, like
one or two generations now I think are lost. These
are young people who are not being brought up that
you finish school and you aim to be and do things,
and you make a family and you raise kids and
you have communities. And that was how I was brought up,
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and it was all this optimism. Now you have throngs
of kids who have no idea where they can go
and what they can be, and so they get involved
in all of these cliques like non binary, and you know,
I belong now to a group of people who are
equally lost and don't have an identity and don't have
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a direction and don't have a sense of self other
than I can.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
Belong to this community.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
It's like what we used to look at with groupies
with rock stars. This is what's happening. So I'm worried.
Be honest with you, I'm worried. But the one little
piece of optimism I have is I'm still here.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
People are still calling.
Speaker 8 (25:25):
Somebody wants the help to pull it back together again
and make life meaningful in something you can feel comfortable
and safe with and productive and loving and receive all
of that. So as long as I still get that response,
I keep my optimism.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Up, Doctor Warret, that's a great line. You just laid
out some of the challenges. How much do you think
it has to do with kids getting phones too young?
What advice would you give parents out there? My wife
asked a question about adolescence, but what advice would you
give to pairs? It's about social media and about what
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they allow their kids to be exposed to, particularly on
the Internet.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
Well, everybody tells me I'm insane to think. You know,
you can push up against a tsunami, but it takes
just everybody lining up. I tell people that they're irresponsible
parents if they give smartphones to their kids, any minor
child period. Get them a flip phone that takes calls.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
That's it. No texting, no Internet.
Speaker 8 (26:29):
And instead of spending one's time with screens, how about
we actually have families that do stuff together. I mean,
my kid was talk about a screen though. We would
watch Law and Order as a whole family, and then
we would sit here and we would go I think
he did it.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
No, I think she did it.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
And so it was all of this thinking through using
pieces of information. And I just read today that our
children are really suffering the inability to have fine motor
skills because they're not playing crayons, they're not playing with scissors,
they're just sitting there like that. And so we're actually
losing physicality.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
I mean, is that not shocking, it's it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
And when you think about all the influences that are
on kids these days and what they're being told and
how I think a lot of them are being set
up for misery. I mean, actor, Laura, you know you have.
I agree the metrics these days, and the metrics for
young women in particular in terms of happiness self described happiness.
It's terrifying in terms of how bad it is. How
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do we start to turn again? You're going up against tsunami,
but how do we start to turn that around?
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Well, I just it popped into my head as you
were asking me the question. Look at all the very
intelligent and very attractive women that are now in positions
of power in our government. I am so enthralled with that.
And I think that's wonderful for young women to have
something to aspire to keep my act clean. No more
(28:00):
shacking up, using drugs, this and that and the other thing.
I want to be like that lady who's now running
the whatever it is. So having role models like that,
you know, I have people calling who say I was
in a car seat in the back of my parents'
car listening to you, and now I have kids and
I'm using what I've learned. So anytime you can be
(28:23):
a positive influence, do it.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
My wife makes fun of me because I just always
sit there in the car when she turns you on.
I'm just like doctor Laura's right. So I'm telling you this.
I was like, we have to have doctor Lauren's I'm
like doctor Laura's right. And Cary looks at me, she goes, oh,
I know, Clay, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Last question for you, and we appreciate your time. And
you're certainly a radio legend. You've been so influential for
so long when the modern era, like I was reading
the other day, the number of successful women that are
choosing to go find a sperm donor to have a
child with instead of an actual man is staggering to me.
(29:00):
What kind of world are we?
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Okay? I wanted to get your take on.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
This makes me angry because kids need a dad, and
I just say to these women, oh, that's not well.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
I have money and I can take care of I
don't care about that.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
You had a mommy and a daddy, and I'm sure
that meant something to you. Now you're gonna rob a
kit of a dad because it's convenient for you not
to commit and give of yourself and be vulnerable to
another human being and be invested in each other's lives beautifully,
that's a real shame that's a real shame.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
That is so selfish.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, yeah, I don't look doctor Laura. We gotta have
we gotta have you back because you know, for you
to solve all problems of relationships and family and chi
child rearing in about ten minutes is asking a lot.
But you didn't know a remarkable job. Guys. There's so
many books. I mean, the Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands.
I've actually got Carrie's very dog eared and underlined copy
(29:55):
of My hand a great book. And go to doctor
Laura dot com because she's doing some great charity work.
To doctor Laura, we'd love to have you back, and thanks
for being here.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
I would love it.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
The Sunday Hang with Playing Buck podcast starts now the
sharing this data from Steve Kornaki and I was just
laying it out. College educated white women they hate Trump.
They're the only group of white voters that hates Trump.
In fact, he has a positive review of everybody else.
And the difference between white men with no college degree
(00:35):
and white women with college degrees has probably never been
more expansive, huge difference. White women with college degrees hate Elon,
they hate Doge Uh, they hate the Republican Party, they
love Zolensky, and they also Buck love DEI. So, basically,
(00:58):
white women with college degrees as a group, I know
there are many white women with college degrees that are
listening to us right now, are divergent from every other
white person in America in a massive way. White men
with college degrees are not similar to white women with
college degrees, and certainly white women and men without college
(01:20):
degrees are not similar at all either. A bunch of
people want to weigh in and Let's start with Lois
in Raleigh, North Carolina. What do you think is to
explain this?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. I am a
college educated woman with a master's degree in education administration.
I worked until thirty nine, got married, and had my son.
I love Trump, And I think maybe some of these women,
because I know some are very angry. Maybe they're even
kind of intimidating and so are they kind of put
(01:55):
people off a little. I don't know, but that's been
my experience. But I loved and I'm a college educated
woman and white.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Right. Well, we know, we know there are a lot
of we know there are a lot of you out there.
I'm curious. I mean when you say, did you have peers,
you know, women who were in your program, let's say
your master's program, Like, what what has their experience been?
Because you said, I think you got married at thirty nine,
you had a kid, you know, it all worked out
for you, right, But do you have a lot of
people from your master's program who maybe never were able
(02:23):
to start a family, or feel like they spent too
much time in the library or whatever. I'm curious what
your general conception or perception is.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Well, I guess my perception is I felt they they
sort of gave this go away. I'm strong, I'm tough,
I'm not vulnerable that type of thing.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And do you think that was because they were told
that they should compete with men in the workplace in
a way that was unhealthy? I mean, what's your analysis
of it?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Oh, I think it's unhealthy because I wanted to be
married and have a child and be a college educated woman.
I wanted to have all of that, and I did.
I just had to wait.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, okay, I've got a good email here, Thank you
for the call. By the way, with you, I can
mention my wife has double graduate degrees and voted for Trump.
So obviously there are a lot of people out there
in that camp.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
But but again on the on the outlier thing, you know,
Mark Zuckerberg didn't finish college and is one of the
richest people on the planet. That doesn't mean that like
people shouldn't get an education, right like, you know, it
doesn't or that you shouldn't finish college if you think
that's going to be good for you. You know, the exception
is not the rule.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
The outlier typically is an outlier for a reason. Good
email here, from Katie. She says, howdy from San Antonio.
College educated Gigamaggie's means she's a tex A and M grad.
I'm a white woman here voted for Trump, and what
I'm interested in is why you think women, not what
you did, but why you think these numbers do reflect
the truth. There are a lot of people who disagree
(03:51):
with you. Here's her explanation. Many of my childhood friends
turned extremely liberal while in college. Then they moved into
urban suburban areas around Dallas, Austin, and Houston. All of
my white college educated liberal friends are extremely vocal on
social media about the same issues abortion, the Alphabet Crew, nonsense,
(04:14):
and above all, pandering to the race social causes like BLM.
It's like they fall all over each other to show
who is the most apologetic for being white and who
adopts the most pets from their local shelter. Their need
to fill morally superior is unmatched. I think that's a
(04:35):
really great email that actually makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, high five to who was the author of that one.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Vid Katie Gigamaggie's good luck to Texas, A and M
in the tournament based on this. She also said by
the way Texas A and M one of the exceptions,
mostly conservative school, especially compared to that Orange school in Austin,
taking a little bit of a shot at University of Texas.
But it is interesting that it's like for college educated women,
(05:03):
their social stature is a competition to see who can
appear the most emotionally.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Empathetic and may well drive it. I think that the
emotional blackmail that we are all put through in college
by the woke machinery is particularly effective on women. I
just think that, again, that doesn't mean that all women
succumb to it. It just means that I think that
(05:31):
women are more likely because they're more Look, can we
can speak about these things honestly, right? Women tend to
be more empathetic. Women tend to be more in touch
with their feelings, you know. In general, Okay, I need
some woman to call like I could bench press you
buck like I'm sure you can. But generally speaking, women
are more when full macho man Randy Savage.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
That's the that's the lesbian woman from the Democrat Party
that picked Tim Walls as the man to appeal to.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
You get what you get what I'm putting down. But
I think that women want to be and I'm talking
about college women in college or of that age. Obviously
they want to be empathetic. They want to be sympathetic,
they want to do what they can for other people,
and they are told that to be good people. To
be good people, you have to identify with these cousin
(06:21):
of Clay. A perfect example of this Zelenski. The college
educated women love little Zolenski. Give me more money. I'm
here for Donald Trump in my T shirt. Like, the
whole thing is bizarre when you think about this. Also,
what are these college educated women know about what it
means to be somewhere where you could get blown up
(06:42):
by an ied or shot by a sniper rifle, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. And yet they're the ones that
are so all in on this Ukraine war situation. Like,
think about this for a second. The guys who has fought,
who has fought a lot of Americans work Now. I
have friends who come from very well off backgrounds who
were in the Army and in the Marines too, So
(07:03):
I'm not I'm not saying again we're speaking generalities here, Okay,
working class men are the ones who fight America's wars.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Rich Man's poor man's fight has been a phrase for
hundreds of years, and it's true.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
In the world it is, you know, eighteen year olds
from working class backgrounds, who are the ones signing up
fighting our wars. I don't think anybody would find this
a controversial statement. It is the truth. And it's interesting
that they like Trump the guy who's trying to end
the war, and white college educated women are the ones
who are like Slava Ukrainy, like fight till the very end.
(07:42):
The guys know that this stuff is nasty and you
want to end it as fast as possible. This is
not a video game.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Mary in San Marcos, Texas, what's your theory on what's
going on here?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I think they're spoiled brats. I think they think they're enabled,
and they think that they're better, and they think that
they're going to do whatever they think they want to do.
They are using the female card. I'm in my sixties
that it took me a while to get my degree,
but I worked my butt off to get my degree,
literally because we didn't have federal loans then we had
(08:19):
to pay it as we went. But I very much
earned my degree. I am a degree from Texas A
and M Corpus Christi, Texas, but I am a teacher.
I retired after twenty five years. But before that, I
was a mechanic in an oil refinery. I was a
mechanic in ad laboratories medical manufacturing system. As I said,
(08:41):
I worked my butt off. And these ladies that are
doing this, they couldn't be bothered by dirting their hands
doing menial work waitressing, or working in a kitchen, or
working h in some kind of hands on product. They're little,
you know, little Mistucci's doing what they want to do
because I'm a female and I can do this, and
(09:02):
you know you have to hire me because I'm entitled. No,
you're not.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Thank you for the call. I love it, thank you
for the call.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I do think there's a generational divide here, right, because
a lot of women college graduates are recent women college graduates,
meaning in the last twenty or thirty years. As now
women get way more college degrees in question, for you, Buck,
are women, because of social media, far more likely to
be susceptible to what their friends do and say than
(09:35):
men are.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Like I don't know about you.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
But I love it really and Clay and I hear
experts on women. I just think it's kind of funny. Yes,
I'm just having I'm just having a go at you. Yes,
I think that you are correct. I think that the
I see this all the time. Can I just tell
you something, you know, I have I still have some
friends who are single and I and I love hearing about,
(09:58):
you know, their story. It's great to hear their story, right,
It's it's like hearing about people who are out there
in the jungle trying to find the tiger still, you know,
like I'm I'm safe.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And I got an older.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Brother who's who's a fantastic guy and a very lhm bachelor.
Great catch, just thrown it out there, great catch, Mason,
my older brother, and and he's still single. But you know,
I've got a bunch of friends down here as well
who are all single guys. And Clay. The number of
women who think it's really appealing to tell guys that
their great life life aspiration is to travel is insane
(10:31):
to me. This is this is entirely a product of
Instagram culture and getting the likes. And I'm in tou
Loom and I'm in Barcelona, and I'm in all these places,
and all my friends think I'm living this great life.
Traveling is a thing you do once in a while
to do a reset from your actual life.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And yeah, sound like an Instagram influencer chick right now.
I kind of think they're right. I love to travel.
I want to go everywhere. That's what I want to do.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
No, I want to just travel over the place you're.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Going to see me, like on the edge of a
cliff taking a selfie, like look at the sea in
the background.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
We need doctor Laura. Where's doctor Laura. We need her
to weigh in on this.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
But I do think that first of all, I have
no idea what my friends say on social media, Like
I use social media.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
If you were trying to find you found, you found
a great woman and built a beautiful family in a.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Real young world where you meet face to face like
in law school, like most people used to meet face
to face. But so I the whole dating on the
internet thing was like predates me.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So, but I'm saying if you if you met a
girl in you know, not Laura, if you had met
somebody before you met Laura and you said, hey, like,
you know, what do you want to do? Just like
I just want to travel. Now you think that's a
you think, no, not not. I want to build a family.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
I like to travel. Now, what I wanted to hear.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You're a man, you don't count now I'm talking about
when you were single.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Oh yeah, No, what I wanted to hear was I
want to have a ton of kids. Yeah, that's what
I would want to hear.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
So you agree with me your whole I love to
try clay, Yeah, like cause you're you know, I've already
a totally different.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But but I do think the thing that I wanted
to hear was, Hey, I want to have a bunch
of kids. And that's what had appeal to me. And
if you're I guess I'm thinking like twenty five year
old day if you're like thirty five and you meet
somebody and like, what do you want to do with
your life? Like I want to travel. That's a little
bit weird person. There's a lot I've had. This is
what I'm telling you. There are a lot of women
(12:28):
in their thirties who their aspiration is their life aspiration
again as they're presenting it on social media and on
dating apps or whatever, is I want to travel, And
I just think that this is this mindset of this,
the self actualization through selfies is really damaging.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
I think it's totally true. Here's another question for you.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Do you think women are more impacted by negativity on
social media? Like, in other words, anything that we post,
if you want to go into the mentions, you can
find five or six people that are like, kill yourself,
I hope.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
You die, right?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I mean, that is very common on social media, particularly
Twitter compared to Instagram. How much of this is just
a fear of anybody disagreeing with them in a desperate way.
Women are far more socially savvy than men are. Like
I don't know when I'm getting the cold shoulder. I
don't notice because I'm not savvy enough to notice it
in many respects. And I do think women are more,
(13:27):
far more tuned. And I wonder my thought on this
is what would Trump have been like in a non
social media era.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
We are fired up here on this topic, as are
so many of you. You're calling in, you're writing in
all over the place we have. Is this a call?
Christine and cape con, Christine and tech con, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Hi?
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Well? I am I have two children in their twenties
raised them in affluent Massachusetts. I have a master's degree
to successful companies. Although I'm a Republican, all of my
best friends that I raised my children with were crazy Liberals.
And to the point of where what I think is
(14:15):
going on and what I saw in our community is
that boys have been totally emasculated as well as men,
And for the most part, most of the men in
our community were raised to be very effeminate, to not
be aggressive, to not be real men, to not be
do sexual advances, advances for concern over being aggressive or
(14:38):
for it to be looked at as you know, rapists
or whatever, and so I think young boys are are
not are told not to be that way. And so
when all of these women are confronted with a real
man who is aggressive, who is all, you know, playing
outside and wrestling and all of that, they are like
(14:59):
a gast. Well, boys shouldn't be that way. Men shouldn't
be that way. So Trump, super fascinating man, I think,
is looked upon as that. And so I think, and
certainly like my daughter who is in Cambridge and went
to school in Boston, all of the men were very effeminate.
So you have all of these women who and the
(15:22):
women in my community. We were all lucky enough to
raise our children at home, so they were leading very
feminine roles within their households. How you know, it's staying home,
taking care of their kids, all of that. Yet we
were telling our kids to not be that way. Don't
assume those roles. Girl, you you know, get that abortion
if you want that abortion. And boys don't be don't wrestle,
(15:43):
don't do that.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, they masculinize the women. Actually, the young women are
being told to act more like men, and men are
being told to act more like women. It's part of
the whole gender confusion in this country. Great call, great call,
Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Sunday with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Doctor Ruh Schlessinger, who recently celebrated fifty years on the radio.
She is a best selling author. She's also auctioning off
some handmade items to support children of fallen patriots. Go
to doctor Laura dot com for more of that Again
doctor Laura dot com. Doctor Laura, I just say it's
an honor to speak to you because I've been hearing
(16:22):
your voice ever since I got married, because my wife
is a longtime doctor Laura listener, and let me tell you,
I am very thankful. I am very thankful for it.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Well, then she's your girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
She's the best. She's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I come home and we got married, and I came
home and there's dinner on the table, and I say, honey,
I want to go to the shooting range with the guys.
She says, you need guye time. You know all these
rules and lessons, And then I found this book, their
Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands, which is dog eared
and underlined and everything else. I tell you, I got
married a little later in life, doctor Laura. So I
(16:58):
got married around forty I think it was forty one.
And my wife has absolutely loved my life. She's absolutely fantastic.
We're about to have a baby in a couple of weeks,
so everything is going. And I really want to have
you on in part just to thank you because and
this comes from my wife as well. I think you
give so many women such incredibly important and powerful advice
(17:22):
for them to have great, meaningful lives as wives, as mothers.
Is so I'm always whenever Carrie starts saying doctor Laura says,
I start nod of my head. YEP, that's great. She
sent in my wife's So I just got to tell
you this. It's the truth. My wife's sent in a
question for you. In Clay's wife, Laura has a question too.
She says, Hi, doctor Laura. I'm a longtime listener and
(17:44):
read the Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands. I also
took the online course. Your wisdom has not only made
me the wife i am today, but also led me
to find an incredible husband who adores me. Fact check true.
In a couple of weeks, we will be welcoming our
first child. We're so thrilled to grower. But what is
your advice for ensuring our solid and healthy marriage stays
(18:04):
intact after the first baby comes. Thank you for all
you do.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
You don't stop having your hands all over each other.
Speaker 8 (18:12):
That means when you're walking around, That means when one
of you takes a shower, maybe we could, you know,
save on water.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
We could both be in the shower.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
It's really the physicality and the silliness. Everybody thinks it's
got to be marital therapy and heavy duty conversations with
you and I both know guys don't enjoy.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
So the more.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
Physical you are with each other, and the more cute
you are with each other.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
That's really all you need.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
That's really good advice.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Now I don't even know what my wife has sent in,
but there is audio. She went and used the app
and then she needed more space, so.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
She said, just give context. Pray.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
How long?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
How long have you been married? Tell doctor Laura how
I have been Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So I've been married, uh man, twenty one years will
be August. So I've been married over twenty years now.
We have three boys, seventeen, fourteen, and ten year old.
And here is what my wife, Lara wanted to ask you.
Speaker 9 (19:10):
Listen, Clay and I are parents of boys, and thus
far I think we have weathered adolescents fairly well. However,
some of our friends who have daughters, their experiences, the
way they talk about it sound very different. In fact,
some of them say, raising daughters through adolescents is a
(19:32):
complete nightmare. I have a friend this morning tell me
that she feels she's coming home to a bag of
snakes every day when she comes home to her adolescent daughters,
which is funny but harsh. So, in general, do you
have some great advice for parents going through adolescents with
(19:53):
their children? Obviously, the children are going through adolescents, and
do you have different advice for parents of girls weathering
adolescens versus parents of boys weathering adolescence.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Thank you, I thought you were just going to have
me on for a few minutes. That's going to take.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Me about half an hour I get through.
Speaker 8 (20:14):
Let me try to bring it down number one, whether
it's a boy or a girl, that it's a tight
family that does things together, that is sweet with each other.
That the father spends time with the daughter, that father
spends time with the son, the mother spends time and
the family is always together for dinner if they have
to go do sports.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
Things or what have you.
Speaker 8 (20:36):
That you know that's a very important part of the family.
People keep divvying it up. Yeah, there are differences in
how you raise girls from boys, and I'd have to
come back another time to go through that. But the
first and foremost thing, just like I spoke about husbands
and wives and the physical and the cuteness, the I
was with a family and I thought, and I talked
(20:58):
about them on my air, that this was the best
family I.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
Had seen in decades.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
Anytime anybody got something, may I would you send me?
Speaker 7 (21:09):
Could I have yes, please, thank you.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
Everybody was so concerned and polite to one another. That
is not something that families do. You have two career families.
You have all kinds of other stuff going on in
the house, and it's not a family, it's mother and
father and kids. But when it's a family, when people
(21:33):
are always saying please and thank you and show concern
for each other and discipline and kind ways with understanding
and compassion, you'd be surprised how it minimizes how crazy
it gets. And also take your kids out of public school.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Wow, doctor Laurie, We're definitely gonna have to have you back,
and I'm really looking forward to all the questions and
comments we're gonna get from the audience about you coming
on and just beginning this arc of wisdom. And like
I said, as a husband and a very happy husband
who does completely adore his wife, and I you know,
it's it's so important that I think women get a
lot of the messaging and men and men, but that
(22:11):
we both get a lot of the messaging that you're
putting out there. And I wanted you to address something
that's more just sort of general for the country right now,
you know, we talk here about politics and national security
and education, all these different things, but the importance of
family and marriage is central. Should be central, Maybe should
be is a better word these days. You know, there's
a story just out today and it says, and the
(22:31):
headline is American women are giving up on marriage, And
one of the lines from it is American women have
never been this resigned to staying signal single. They are
responding to major demographic shifts, including huge and growing gender
gaps in economic and education attainment, and beliefs about what
a family should look like. What is going on and
how do we fix it?
Speaker 8 (22:53):
Not enough fathers in the home raising sons to be
men of honor and courage and prince of And that's basically.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
Again, the women have gone through the feminist.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
Thing where men are the evil empire and all this
negativity toward masculinity.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
It's all toxic. I think it's wonderful.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
Give me a guy with the cowboy hat and boots,
and I pay attention because there's a sense that there's
a strength there. And women like to feel protected. That's
probably the number one thing women don't admit. They want
to feel protected, and that's why they like those silly
books where there's this ripped guy on the cover and
(23:36):
she's being carried you into safety. Why do they read
those things at such large amounts Because ultimately, as smart
and incompetent as we can be, we want to be protected.
And men have not been brought up to be that anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Are you more of You've been doing this for fifty years,
and Buck just laid out a marriage is becoming less common.
A lot of men and are not presentent homes. Unfortunately,
the overall birth rate in many Western civilizations is collapsing.
Are you more or less optimistic about the future of
the family unit today than when you started? How would
(24:15):
you analyze the scope of relationship that you've seen over
fifty years.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (24:21):
No'm I was more optimistic than that. I am now
because there have been so many forces. We have, like
one or two generations now I think are lost. These
are young people who are not being brought up that
you finish school and you aim to be and do things,
and you make a family and you raise kids and
you have communities. And that was how I was brought up,
(24:42):
and it was all this optimism. Now you have throngs
of kids who have no idea where they can go
and what they can be, and so they get involved
in all of these cliques like non binary, and you know,
I belong now to a group of people who are
equally lost and don't have an identity and don't have
(25:02):
a direction and don't have a sense of self other
than I can.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
Belong to this community.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
It's like what we used to look at with groupies
with rock stars. This is what's happening. So I'm worried.
Be honest with you, I'm worried. But the one little
piece of optimism I have is I'm still here.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
People are still calling.
Speaker 8 (25:25):
Somebody wants the help to pull it back together again
and make life meaningful in something you can feel comfortable
and safe with and productive and loving and receive all
of that. So as long as I still get that response,
I keep my optimism.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Up, Doctor Warret, that's a great line. You just laid
out some of the challenges. How much do you think
it has to do with kids getting phones too young?
What advice would you give parents out there? My wife
asked a question about adolescence, but what advice would you
give to pairs? It's about social media and about what
(26:03):
they allow their kids to be exposed to, particularly on
the Internet.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
Well, everybody tells me I'm insane to think. You know,
you can push up against a tsunami, but it takes
just everybody lining up. I tell people that they're irresponsible
parents if they give smartphones to their kids, any minor
child period. Get them a flip phone that takes calls.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
That's it. No texting, no Internet.
Speaker 8 (26:29):
And instead of spending one's time with screens, how about
we actually have families that do stuff together. I mean,
my kid was talk about a screen though. We would
watch Law and Order as a whole family, and then
we would sit here and we would go I think
he did it.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
No, I think she did it.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
And so it was all of this thinking through using
pieces of information. And I just read today that our
children are really suffering the inability to have fine motor
skills because they're not playing crayons, they're not playing with scissors,
they're just sitting there like that. And so we're actually
losing physicality.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
I mean, is that not shocking, it's it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
And when you think about all the influences that are
on kids these days and what they're being told and
how I think a lot of them are being set
up for misery. I mean, actor, Laura, you know you have.
I agree the metrics these days, and the metrics for
young women in particular in terms of happiness self described happiness.
It's terrifying in terms of how bad it is. How
(27:31):
do we start to turn again? You're going up against tsunami,
but how do we start to turn that around?
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Well, I just it popped into my head as you
were asking me the question. Look at all the very
intelligent and very attractive women that are now in positions
of power in our government. I am so enthralled with that.
And I think that's wonderful for young women to have
something to aspire to keep my act clean. No more
(28:00):
shacking up, using drugs, this and that and the other thing.
I want to be like that lady who's now running
the whatever it is. So having role models like that,
you know, I have people calling who say I was
in a car seat in the back of my parents'
car listening to you, and now I have kids and
I'm using what I've learned. So anytime you can be
(28:23):
a positive influence, do it.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
My wife makes fun of me because I just always
sit there in the car when she turns you on.
I'm just like doctor Laura's right. So I'm telling you this.
I was like, we have to have doctor Lauren's I'm
like doctor Laura's right. And Cary looks at me, she goes, oh,
I know, Clay, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Last question for you, and we appreciate your time. And
you're certainly a radio legend. You've been so influential for
so long when the modern era, like I was reading
the other day, the number of successful women that are
choosing to go find a sperm donor to have a
child with instead of an actual man is staggering to me.
(29:00):
What kind of world are we?
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Okay? I wanted to get your take on.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
This makes me angry because kids need a dad, and
I just say to these women, oh, that's not well.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
I have money and I can take care of I
don't care about that.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
You had a mommy and a daddy, and I'm sure
that meant something to you. Now you're gonna rob a
kit of a dad because it's convenient for you not
to commit and give of yourself and be vulnerable to
another human being and be invested in each other's lives beautifully,
that's a real shame that's a real shame.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
That is so selfish.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, yeah, I don't look doctor Laura. We gotta have
we gotta have you back because you know, for you
to solve all problems of relationships and family and chi
child rearing in about ten minutes is asking a lot.
But you didn't know a remarkable job. Guys. There's so
many books. I mean, the Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands.
I've actually got Carrie's very dog eared and underlined copy
(29:55):
of My hand a great book. And go to doctor
Laura dot com because she's doing some great charity work.
To doctor Laura, we'd love to have you back, and thanks
for being here.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
I would love it.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
Thank you, guys, and I love listening to you too,
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