November 14, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show kicks off the Friday edition with a fast-paced breakdown of the latest political and cultural developments, emphasizing the growing economic concerns and political fallout from the recent government shutdown. The hosts begin by discussing new trade deals struck by President Donald Trump with Ecuador, Guatemala, El Salvador, and Argentina, aimed at lowering tariffs on key goods like beef and coffee. They highlight how these agreements reflect the administration’s focus on economic growth and affordability, especially as inflation continues to impact everyday Americans.
The conversation quickly pivots to the political ramifications of what they label the “Schumer Shutdown,” with White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt delivering a scathing critique of Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and the Democratic Party. Clay and Buck argue that the shutdown was a strategic failure for Democrats, causing unnecessary pain for American families and military personnel while yielding no policy victories. Vice President JD Vance is praised for his leadership and messaging, particularly his criticism of Democrats for prolonging the shutdown despite having previously agreed to the same spending deal.
The hosts explore the broader psychological and cultural impact of what they call “Trump Derangement Syndrome,” referencing a Wall Street Journal article and Buck’s upcoming book, Manufacturing Delusion. They argue that political hysteria, media manipulation, and identity politics have created a climate of irrationality, particularly among left-leaning voters. This leads to a discussion of fabricated racial incidents in sports, including the Bubba Wallace noose story and LeBron James’ unsubstantiated vandalism claim, which they say reflect a pattern of media-driven mass delusion.
Clay and Buck also analyze the economic landscape heading into the 2026 midterms, emphasizing that while markets are rebounding, many Americans still feel the pinch of high prices. They argue that affordability and kitchen-table issues will dominate the political conversation, and that the Trump administration must focus more on domestic concerns to maintain voter support. The hosts share personal anecdotes about skyrocketing grocery prices, including an $8 gallon of milk, and compare the current inflationary cycle to the economic struggles of the Jimmy Carter era.
The hour closes with speculation about the 2028 presidential race, including the potential candidacy of Gavin Newsom and Jasmine Crockett. Clay and Buck debate whether Democrats can find a candidate who appeals to both the progressive base and moderate voters, suggesting that Newsom’s slick political style may mirror Joe Biden’s earlier career. They also preview an upcoming interview with Steve Hilton about California’s wildfire recovery delays and discuss President Trump’s renewed interest in the Jeffrey Epstein financial mystery, calling for transparency from major banks involved in Epstein’s wealth accumulation
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of the Clay, Travis
and Buck Sexton Show, known to many of you as
the Clay and Buck Show.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Same show. Very important.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
We've got a lot to talk to you about on
this lovely Friday. I cannot believe how close Thanksgiving actually
is already. We will get into some debates and discussions
in the next few weeks about cobbler, for example, and
some of the most delectable, the most delectable of dessert treats.
(00:33):
Some of you Southerners are going to get are gonna
get fired up again as we discuss your favorite various
Thanksgiving sides. I don't even know what they are. Sometimes
there's these these funky names. We will have discussions about
all of that and also some very important things that
are going on, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Like first up, we got Trump.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
The White House has struck new trade deals with four
countries Ecuador, Guatemala, El Salvador, and Argentina to lower tariffs
on select goods like beef and yes, Clay coffee, Thank you,
Crocket coffee, because we did look into getting coffee from Hawaii.
Like everything else in Hawaii, it is muy expensivo. It
(01:17):
is very Is that actually how you say it in Spanish?
I don't even know it is very probably not probably,
This seems unlikely, but it's I think I just made
that's not. I don't speak any Spanish, so I feel
good about the MOI, but I don't know right I'd
leaned into the MOI. But the rest of it I
took French and Arabic in school, so you can make
of that what you will. Anyway, there's these new trade
(01:41):
deals BS for Crocket coffee. That's always exciting too.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Go subscribe Crocket Coffee dot com because the tariffs are
gonna affect the price of coffee, just like it's affecting
a lot of other things right now.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You see, you've also got jd Vance weigh in on
the housing crisis. Pete Hagseeth, the Secretary of I have
to keep saying it just so that it gets redone
in my mind, you know, so that everyone doesn't have
to keep on sending in.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
It's the Secretary of War now, I know. But it's
been a long time. And I used to work with
DoD folks, and I used to I used to brief
the Secretary of Defense on occasion it's not really something
that comes that naturally to me, so I'm working on it.
But Hegseth has announced an operation to remove narco terrorists
from our hemisphere, so it feels like that is something
(02:30):
that is going to be heating up. We've already discussed
some of the deployments of US military forces into the
Caribbean way more than we've seen in a very long time.
And then, of course, Clay, we have the designation of
Antifa abroad as an international terrorist organization.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
That's something we should discuss. But first stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I did want to just dive into this Caroline Levitt
off the top rope here on the Schumer shutdown, and
I do think it will be known increasingly to everybody
as the Schumer shutdown, because it was very much pushed
by Chuck Schumer and some of the Democrats around him.
But here is the White House Press Secretary at play.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Cut one, President Trump and Republicans slacked Chuck Schumer and
the entire Democrat Party. After forty three days of Chuck
standing out there trying to bravely hold the country hostage
and inflict massive pain on the American public, Chuck got
absolutely nothing.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
And now the knives are out for him.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
The Democrat Party is in complete disarray, and the truth
is they have been for ten years since President Trump
came on the political scene. They ran Senator Jillibrand and
Senator Mansion out of town. Now they're running Chucky Schumer
out of town. It's too bad. He turned into a Palestinian.
He did it for nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
There you go. That was last night on Fox. Clay.
I do think that.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
The Democrat this is a big l for them. This
is a big loss going up on the board. Although
they could point to these elections, I think they were
going to win those elections anyway. Honestly, I don't think
there were any surprises. This is Democrat states, or at
least Democrat momentum in a place like Virginia.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I think Jay Jones is the only one where you
look at and you say, boy, this was disgusting. I mean,
the attorney general who said that he wanted to kill
a political opponent's kids and piss on their graves. I'm
not sure what the official standard for behavior is, but
I would say, yeah, you know, that's a tough one
to get past. And I think candidly, I don't think
(04:38):
Republicans would have voted for someone who said that. I mean,
there's been a lot of evidence. You can go to
Alabama for instance, where the Democrat candidate won.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Remember Roy Moore.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
There were the hit pieces that came out against him,
the judge that would have won, and then the Washington
Post came out and had a story about his alleged
involvement with young girls. And I'm not trying to re
litigate that case in any way. I'm just saying in Alabama,
which is a deeper red state, as a result, a
(05:12):
Democrat ended up winning that Senate seat. That was Republicans
saying yeah, we can't roll with this. I think good, decent, honorable,
reasonable Democrats should have said, yeah, we'll stick with Jason
miaras he's already the existing attorney general, and we shouldn't
reward people who say things like what Jay Jones said. Now,
(05:36):
the dark side of that election is some Democrats actually
may have voted for him because he said that, which
is meaning, you know, not only were they looking past
what he said, some of them said, you know what,
I agree with him. There was a great Trump Derangement
syndrome article in Yesterday's Wall Street Journal, Buck saying that
(05:56):
it basically meets all the clinical definitions of it. Was
a psychiatrist basically walking through that Trump derangement syndrome is
real that and not in substantial number of people out
there have lost the ability to be rational and reasonable
in any way based on their antipathy for Trump. And
(06:17):
I think that's true for a lot of people out there,
and it happened in the Ags race.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I think it's also really important to note that my book,
which is coming out in February, which is called Manufacturing
Delusion and available for pre order right now on Amazon,
Clay goes into exactly that how do you make people
politically crazy, as in delusional and not able to see reality?
And clearly Trump derangement syndrome is the most apparent manifestation
(06:46):
of that that we see right now. There was the
COVID madness, there's the trans stuff, There's a whole bunch
of things, but there is a clear ability and it,
unfortunately is very prominent in America these days to make
a lot of people really nuts in the service of
a political agenda to believe crazy things. And that is
(07:06):
very scary because it is when people believe untrue and
crazy things that terrible things happen to societies. Go get
the pre order now. Manufacturing delusion, that's what we call it.
That's what I just did.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Right before this show, I did a fun Zoom podcast
show with Will Caine, who obviously has this show on
Fox News now your longtime friend, but we talked a
lot about the delusion. If you had been a diehard
sports fan, Buck, I think you would have seen so
much of the delusion going on in the world of sports,
(07:43):
and certainly saying men can be women as part of it.
But even just going through it was fun to kind
of go through some of these crazy stories. Over the
last week, there have been a lot of just justy
smalllette style stories made up in sports Lebron for instance.
For those of you out in LA, you'll remember this.
It almost gets no attention. He I think, falsely claimed
(08:06):
that somebody scrolled a racial slur on his twenty million
dollar mansion in LA, the Brentwood area of LA. And
I went through and did an investigation, called the police,
asked for police reports, the kind of things that someone
who is in media should do, and the LA police
just dropped that case and said we'd have found no
(08:27):
evidence that there was ever a crime committed. Most people
have no idea that happened, because at least Fox News exists.
In the world of politics, the New York Post exists,
there are entities that will kind of go in Shepherd
and look into stories like these. Now OutKick does. Certainly
there are hardly anything in sports where people will actually
(08:49):
ask these questions and say, wait a minute. Lebronesse small
letted that entire racial slur on the Gate store. Yes,
I think the evidence is that he did, but because
nobody covered it, it is kind of just a vanishing story.
Remember the Bubble Wallace noose story that everybody was like
hysteria for sure, absurd that NASCAR was super racist and
(09:11):
that some guy decided, Hey, I'm gonna send a message.
We're going to have a noose in Bubble Wallace. And
then the FBI got called in the FBI and they
did a big investigation, and they were like, this has
been here for years, and it's actually a common way
to tie ant. That was the conclusion. It's just I
think these things would tie in well with your book.
But yeah, I hope we're coming out of them, but
(09:34):
I'm a little bit afraid that we might not well.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I even there's even a whole trans chapter and of
course deal with the Riley Gain situation, and that guy
who was a girl who's or pretended to be a
girl to swim, and the fact that people go along
with this stuff. And I'll say this, the fact that
people sit around and pretend like Donald Trump is Hitler
is crazy. And then that there are news shows where
they still talk about the rise of fascism and they
(09:59):
speak about Trump in a way that is meant to
terrify emotionally and psychologically weak people. Now I mean that
it is not meant to amuse them. It is meant
to terrify the psychologically weak in the audience of the
New York Times the other and there's a lot of
neurotic people often confuse IQ with psychological strength. Not true
(10:21):
at all. A lot of very high IQ people actually
have tremendous difficulties dealing with the world around them. Yes, famously,
you could see like that guy Nash from a Beautiful
Mind if we've seen movies about this, others the correlation
between even genius and delusion and psychological issues. Howard Hughes,
I mean, there's all kinds of stuff right where you
(10:42):
can point to this and see My point here is
that there are a lot of very psychologically fragile people
who have coalesced. And this is true if you look
at things like heavy SSRI usage, you look at rates
of self described depression, anxiety, all this clusters on the
left side of the political aisle, and so their media
(11:05):
apparatus is constantly feeding into their neuroses and their actual
phobias they have.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
There are trumphobic people out there. I had a friend
in college, a good friend of mine.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Who is always a lib. He texts me, He's like,
what are you going to do when the stormtroopers are
pulling you and like your friends off the street. And
I felt bad for him, Like, you really think that
that's going to happen? You live in an alternate universe.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
They really do. And the delusional nature of this, I
think many of you. Here's the positive. I think there
are tons of you out there listening right now that
have come to see the truth. And I think every
day and every week and every month, we add a
(11:52):
few more people out.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
There insanity world.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
And the reason that I would be optimistic about this,
some of you would say, Okay, Clay, what are you
basing that optimism in the number of people who didn't
vote Trump in twenty sixteen that by twenty twenty four
did vote Trump. It is an extraordinary increase in Trump's support.
And you know, you go back to twenty sixteen, I
(12:18):
think it was sixty four million ish people voted for
Donald Trump. A lot of those people over the years
ahead have have passed away. So we probably have added
twenty million Trump voters between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four.
That's a sign that sanity will win. But boy, it's
(12:39):
been a battle, buck. And that's what I come back
to and just look at optimistically, is we probably have
seen between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four around twenty
million of you, many of whom are listening to us
right now. We're not Trump voters in sixteen, and by
twenty four they said I can't, I can't continue in
the trajectory that the nation has been going on. There's
(13:00):
an optimistic thought for you, and I hope those same
people show up in twenty six and certainly in twenty
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Speaker 5 (14:25):
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Speaker 1 (14:27):
Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get
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We are rolling through the Friday edition of the program,
and really stock market I when I saw it open.
I know that a lot of you may not follow
the stock market from minute to minute, but I do,
(14:50):
and uh, it looked like it was going to be
a rough day in the stock market. I'm just looking
up at CNBC right now, and if you checked where
the stock market was at nine am Eastern in your
and where it is right now at twelve thirty, it
has had a massive move towards the positive where we
may well be challenging all time records yet again by
(15:10):
the end of the week, which is pretty extraordinary. And
it comes back Buck to I think the central question
as we move into twenty twenty six is not only
going to be where the economy is, but to what
extent do people start top to bottom, whether you're super
rich billionaire or somebody who is really living paycheck to paycheck.
(15:32):
You and I can speak to the paycheck to paycheck living.
Never have experienced the super rich billionaire life. I mean nice,
but do people start to feel it? Because the biggest
challenge here, I think is if you're trying to message
bidenomic style something that people don't feel when it comes
to daily cost or daily experience in their life, it
(15:54):
can make you feel out of touch. And so I
think the central challenge of twenty twenty six is to
what extent do people start to feel better about the economy.
Democrats are right, because they hate Trump, They're going to
pretend that things are awful. But those middle of the
road voters that will decide who wins the House, who
wins the Senate, how do you win those guys and gals.
(16:14):
To me, that's the biggest question as we start to
look towards the start of twenty twenty six, Well, we
certainly need to hear more, I think from this administration
about what the economic message, what the plans are for
twenty twenty six. Twenty twenty five has been very good.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I know people are worried about prices and feeling that pinch,
but that is something that was inherited. If I tell
you that the Biden administration had the worst inflation in
forty four, zero forty years, it's going to take more
than a year for people to feel like wages have
kept up with that. But they've been moving in the
right direction, and certainly the overall markets housing markets, the
(16:54):
situation with the tariffs. There's a lot to feel positive about.
But I do think Clay here, I'll put it this way,
front page of your favorite New York Times today, at
least on the website, a whole piece on how MAGA
is getting a little fed up with all the Trump
globe trotting and focus on other countries there or not.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I will tell you I have heard.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
From the faithful, both those with platforms and just everyday
folks that they're a little frustrated with some of that
right now too. It's not that there's promises aren't being kept,
it's that they think there's been too much of the
focus on that. Again, I'm not passing a judgment on
that right now one way or the other. I'm just
saying that there is a perception out there that we
(17:36):
need there to be This administration needs to focus more
on the kitchen table issues so called, well not so called,
but affordability is what we talk about now.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I think it's the number one story going into twenty
twenty six, and I think it's going to determine how
the midterms go.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Again.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
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All right, welcome back in here to Clay an Buck.
We're talking about how the political scene is playing out
right now in the aftermath of the down and jd
Vance Vice President doing a really phenomenal job, and I
feel very positive about the future of MAGA, the Republican
(19:14):
Party America. First, all that stuff not just with JD.
Marco is doing a great job as Secretary of State.
Scott Bessen is a Treasury secretary. There's a lot of
really top tier political talent that Trump has surrounded himself with.
And I'll just say this the biggest difference I think
between other than maybe some focus and the being touched
(19:37):
by the hand of God to save Trump's life so
that he could win that election. I mean, there's a
lot of things, but there's a big difference in the
teams this time around versus if you looked at a
year into Trump's first term in battle with the Russia collusion,
lie a lot of people around him that you know
weren't right for the job. You couldn't really trust them.
(19:58):
There were problems. This time around, the team is excellent,
and I think JD. Vance is right at the top
of that list, which is good because he's a vice president.
Here is JD talking about how the shutdown was much
ado about nothing and Democrats they own it, play.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
It longest shutdown on history.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Can you tell me what the point of all that was?
Speaker 6 (20:17):
I wish that I knew, Sean, because here's what the
Democrats actually accomplished. They caused a lot of stress for
our troops. They made our traffic controllers not get paid.
They caused a lot of flight cancelations, They had a
lot of people thinking they weren't going to get their
food benefits, all for literally nothing, Sean, because we could
have struck this exact deal forty five days ago. In fact,
we met with Hakeem Jefferies and Chuck Schumer and said
(20:39):
we will pass this exact deal.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
They said no.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
They put the American people through a ton of pain
and suffering for nothing. And we knew this was going
to happen, Sean. We knew the President of United States
said every single day. Eventually the Democrats are going to
realize this is an absurd position. We've got to reopen
the government.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And that's what they did.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I clay one part of this.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Just as we look on what happened here, imagine the
disillusionment of the Republican voter base if the Democrats were
six if they had caved on this. So we've got
a Republican president, Republican majority in the House. In the
Senate previously agreed to spending level that was only ever
(21:19):
in place because of a quote emergency under Biden. The
American rescue plan and they can just make this demand.
I mean, in retrospect, it was the whole thing was absurd.
They have just made themselves into such a reflexively anti
Trump party that there is a benefit in being the
(21:41):
most anti Trump Democrat. There isn't actually a tangible political
result that is beneficial though, Right, So this is one
of those things where we were talking about Jasmin Crockett,
and I do think it's an interesting conversation. Jasmin Crockett
can have for herself a successful brand that she has
created that simultaneously makes the larger Democrat brand worse, and
(22:04):
that's not really.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
What you want, right.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
The goal is for you to be the rising tide
that lifts all boats.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
MAGA.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I think Trump has very rarely when he's been on
the ballot harmed anybody else on the ballot around him.
And in fact, you can go look at the most
contentious states right, the seven toss up states. Trump, if
he had gotten the exact same support that he did
for all these other candidates, we'd have fifty seven or
(22:35):
fifty eight senators in Washington right now, right, Trump one Arizona,
the Senate candidate did not Trump one Michigan. The senate
candidate did not Trump one. Wisconsin, the senate candidate did
not Trump one. Nevada, the senate candidate did not Trump
won Georgia. So far, the senate candidates have not right
seeing a pattern. So Trump is the rising tide now.
(22:58):
Sometimes Dave McCormick our friends and was able to get
across that line in the toss up state of Pennsylvania.
But by and large ticket splitters actually voted Trump and
then they were more likely to vote Democrat. Jasmine Crockett,
please run for Senate in Texas, Jasmine, I hope they
clipped this.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
I hope this goes right to you.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
You are the candidate Texas Democrats need. You are the
voice of the oppressed in the state of Texas. No
one else can make the case like you can.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Please run. Clip that.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Share it with Jasmine. Okay, here's why, Buck. That would
be a disaster because she would motivate a tiny fringe
of the Democrat base, which is leading her to prominence,
but she would actually drag down the overall Democrat party
ticket around her. And I think one of the challenges
that Democrats have is being reflexively anti Trump works in
(23:52):
making you more popular in the Democrat Party, but actually
destroys the Democrat Party's brand on a larger context when
it comes to winning in states where it's tough. And
so I don't know who can thread that needle. Who
can be just kind of media mediocre Trump right, like
he's not hitler as a Democrat, so that you could
(24:14):
straddle that ability to grab the middle road voters. Maybe
it's Scretchen Whitmer. I don't know how that will play
out in and I think she's awful, by the way,
but she's shown up and been public at Trump press conferences.
She hasn't been running from him, if that makes sense.
And so I wonder can anybody nail that thread that
(24:35):
would make them a viable candidate twenty eight going forward.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
If you were to take Joe Biden and reverse the
tape about thirty years something like that, twenty something years.
I think that Gavin Newsom and Joe Biden are actually
from this. They came off the same assembly line. I
(24:59):
think that his real skill. And you can say, oh,
but Biden always played Biden Delaware as blue as blue
can be, has been for a long time. It's why
Joe Biden can get elected to the Senate for forty years.
I think that Gavin Newsom is preparing, and I know
we see that. We see it the same way that
he's going to be the guy for them. But I
think that he'll be able to use political bsing skills
(25:23):
to get over a lot of the real policy deficiencies
and challenges that exist as a result of his governance
of California. So I still think that O'Reilly, uncle Bill.
He disagrees with us on this one. We may be
carving up a delicious steak. I've never seen Bill in
an apron work in the grill. This might have to
happen out there on Strong Island, Uncle Bill on the grill.
(25:47):
I think that Gaven neusim's because to your point, it's
about you see someone like a Jasmine Crockett. Yes, I
think she's managed to build a brand for herself, but
I think there are limitations on that brand because of
our raise it. But someone like Aavin Newsom, he'll play
the game man and he'll say whatever he has to
say to whatever audience, and he'll say it pretty well,
(26:10):
and he'll be slick about it. Biden, we think of
now as the doddering old fool. He's kind of a
just a political wind up toy for a long time.
I mean, well, put aside the puppeteer stuff of his
later life, but I just mean he'd go and he'd grin,
and he'd say the stuff he had to say to
the people he had to say it to. Very newsome
esk in that respect, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Has a sociopathic ability to falsely connect with people. I
just I don't know, right, So I'm already looking ahead
to twenty eight. We should probably play at some point
in the show, we will the clips from JD Vance
talking about twenty eight because he's starting to talk about
his political future going forward, and he said, Hey, at
(26:54):
some point after the mid terms, I'll sit down with
President Trump and talk about with him what my plans are.
And there's always the possibility of, you know, there being
some wild card candidates out there, because I do think
a lot of people will run. And lord knows, I mean,
look at what happened in February of twenty twenty when
COVID suddenly showed up in an election year. There's any
(27:17):
number of crazy things that can happen as we move
towards that twenty twenty eight universe. I just think it's
going to be the Democrat side. Will there be a
lane for someone who's not crazy, because Joe Biden took
that lane and got the nomination, or is it going
to be a huge cadre of people competing in that
(27:40):
Jasmine Crocket crazy lane because that's what the party wants
in the party.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I think the Democrats need someone who the left knows
is actually a leftist.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
This is the Obama playbook.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
In the case of Biden, it was they knew that
he was the trojan horse. They knew that he was.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
A false flag essentially like, oh, I'm a moderate.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
No one thought that. Everyone knew the advisors were going
to be on the show, and the advisors were a
bunch of comedies. Same thing with Obama, except they thought
Obama was going to be making the decisions. But Obama
was even able to pretend to be something else on
some key issues to get elected that the Democrat base knew,
Oh yeah, no, he's not really going to do that though,
or he's not really going.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
To view things that way.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
And you know gay marriage, for example, being one of
the most prominent ones where he just said, yeah, I
changed my mind on that, and I think that that
was known all along that he would do that. So
Gavin Newsom, I think has that same skill set to
pretend to be something else. But back to the affordability issue,
which I know is something that is on a lot
of people's minds right now. Because look, I'll just say this.
(28:39):
My father in law is here today. Carrie and him
are actually at home depot right now working on some plantings,
you know, doing the things that that people do.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I have no I feel badly by the way I
have no.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I am not helpful. He is like he can, he
could build a house. I mean, he has built houses.
So he just shows the Archer house and fixes all
sorts of thoris that are broken. It's he's the father
in law with the tool belt who's just like, well,
you need to take a few sprockets and connect him
into the uh the flux capacitor and then you just
(29:12):
take this over thing here and you know, bang bang bang,
and I'm like, it works amazing. I have no idea
what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Father.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Laura's dad is also able to fix anything. And he
will show up and Laura will have a list of
things that she needs fixed and he'll just walk around
and fix him. I feel bad like he's trying to
include being in and tell me like how he's fixing
the things too. And I'm saying, yeah, like I know
what's going on, Clay, I have nophisticated enough to even
understand what's going on. I'm the same, I have no idea.
He's using tools that I've never even seen before. I'm like,
(29:41):
what is that?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
What is that thing?
Speaker 5 (29:43):
That thing?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
It looks like you use that to open like, uh,
you know a that of whale oil in the eighteen sixties, Like,
what is this?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I don't even know what this is?
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Anyway, here is here is a moment though where he
or there was a moment though where he came in
said I just bought milk. He's making coffee this morning
at the house Crockett obviously, and.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I just bought some milk.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
And he's like it was like eight dollars and I
just that actually is crazy.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Yeah, maybe it was.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Seven seventy or something whatever, but gallon of milk is
almost eight bucks here in Florida.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And this is at publics. This is not at some
this is not at shade fancy fancy. This is just
a grocery store in my neighborhood. Things have gotten really expensive.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
That that is a real thing that people should be
annoyed about because it is government policy. Were not at
a milk shortage, No, one hundred percent. And I think
this is again where Biden was so bad some of
you out there historically. I think the best analogy is
how long did it take for the inflation from Jimmy
(30:47):
Carter to burn out in public anger? And unfortunately you
just got used to what things cost and then people
were able to adjust. JD went right into this with
Sean last night, like cut twenty here, where he's saying, look, yes,
prices are high. This does take some time to adjust
Play twenty for.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
A lot of people out there, Sean, who are saying
things are expensive, and we have to remember they're expensive
because we inherited this terrible inflation crisis from the Biden administration.
But you've already seen signs that things are getting better.
The price of eggs has gone way down. The price
of energy has gone way down, the price of gasoline
has gone way down. And as we know, when the
(31:29):
price of energy goes down, that starts to filter out
into the entire economy. But that also takes a little
bit of time.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
It's truere you go and I think again, for those
of you who lived through the worst worst inflation of
Jimmy Carter, you and Ibock were so young. Was it
nineteen eighty four when you suddenly started thinking, Okay, the
Reagan economy is starting to take quite certainly, when he
(31:58):
won forty nine states, it's a pretty good sign that
people were voting with their pocketbooks. Then, But when do
people get used Because I'll be honest, I've never lived
through this. I'm still frustrated with what things cost because
you have in your mind what something should cost and
then you get a bill and it's way more than that,
and it makes you angry. And the big challenge, and
(32:20):
again I've said it, is you can't really dial that
back once price increases are embedded. You just have to
slow down the increase and then slowly people get used
to it.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I mean, do you feel like the Saltan of Brunei though?
When you buy Chick fil A for your kids these days,
it's like one hundred bucks.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
I mean it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yes, yeah, Like when I'm looking, when I'm sitting there
thinking to myself when I'm going through the drive through
and I see like I pull up and they're like,
that'll be sixty four dollars. I'm like, sixty four dollars.
Used to be, you could go into a restaurant, sit
down and have a meal and it would be like
sixty four dollars for my family. Now it's a fast
food meal. And by the way, this is one of
(33:01):
the challenges these fast casual chains are having in general,
is they're not much more. You know, the difference in
cost is not that substantial now between them, and.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
That delta has changed a lot in a big way.
So yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
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Speaker 1 (34:17):
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your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
We will take some of your calls eight hundred and
two A two two eight A two. We're also going
to head out to California. Talk to our buddy Steve
Hilton at the bottom of the next hour. He's running
for governor as a Republican, and we wanted to talk
somewhat Buck about the fact that all of that area
(34:40):
that was burned in the wildfires, it's now been roughly
ten months or so since that happened. There's been almost
no rebuilding that has been allowed to take place at
all there. If you wonder what is going on why
people are so fed up with Gavin Newsom's leadership. That's
a lot of Democrats, Republicans, Independence people who live in
that LA area that lost their homes. We had Adam
(35:03):
Carolla on to talk about this because he has a
place and has lived in that area his whole life.
I do think that this is a major issue. We'll
talk about that with Steve Hilton.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Also.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
President Trump has posted on the Jeffrey Epstein story as
it appears more of those investigatory files are going to
be released soon, and he is saying something that you
and I have been talking about for a long time.
Why And I'll read that for you at the top
of the next hour. But something to think about this
(35:36):
part of this story that has never added up for
you or me, is how in the world did Jeffrey
Epstein get so filthy rich. Most people who become seven
eight hundred million dollar wealth billionaires, there's a big ticket
win that they had. They had an ownership and a
(35:57):
big company. They sold some a set that's tangible that
you can look at and say that's never been the
case with Epstein. How did he go from having virtually
nothing to being worth in the neighborhood of five six hundred,
seven hundred million dollars.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
What happened there?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Trump saying, let's look at the banks and figure out
what they knew about the transactions there and the money
that was moving in and out of his accounts.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yep I think that's the right move for Trump. Say,
you know what, if we're going to do this, let's
really do this everybody. Let's see who knew what and when,
because I have every confidence that none of this goes
anywhere near a problem for Trump personally. But some of
these financial big wigs and some of these banks, and
what were they doing with this guy? Play very interesting.
(36:45):
Trump takes us into that direction. We'll talk about it
coming up.
Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of the Clay, Travis
and Buck Sexton Show, known to many of you as
the Clay and Buck Show.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Same show. Very important.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
We've got a lot to talk to you about on
this lovely Friday. I cannot believe how close Thanksgiving actually
is already. We will get into some debates and discussions
in the next few weeks about cobbler, for example, and
some of the most delectable, the most delectable of dessert treats.
(00:33):
Some of you Southerners are going to get are gonna
get fired up again as we discuss your favorite various
Thanksgiving sides. I don't even know what they are. Sometimes
there's these these funky names. We will have discussions about
all of that and also some very important things that
are going on, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Like first up, we got Trump.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
The White House has struck new trade deals with four
countries Ecuador, Guatemala, El Salvador, and Argentina to lower tariffs
on select goods like beef and yes, Clay coffee, Thank you,
Crocket coffee, because we did look into getting coffee from Hawaii.
Like everything else in Hawaii, it is muy expensivo. It
(01:17):
is very Is that actually how you say it in Spanish?
I don't even know it is very probably not probably,
This seems unlikely, but it's I think I just made
that's not. I don't speak any Spanish, so I feel
good about the MOI, but I don't know right I'd
leaned into the MOI. But the rest of it I
took French and Arabic in school, so you can make
of that what you will. Anyway, there's these new trade
(01:41):
deals BS for Crocket coffee. That's always exciting too.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Go subscribe Crocket Coffee dot com because the tariffs are
gonna affect the price of coffee, just like it's affecting
a lot of other things right now.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You see, you've also got jd Vance weigh in on
the housing crisis. Pete Hagseeth, the Secretary of I have
to keep saying it just so that it gets redone
in my mind, you know, so that everyone doesn't have
to keep on sending in.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
It's the Secretary of War now, I know. But it's
been a long time. And I used to work with
DoD folks, and I used to I used to brief
the Secretary of Defense on occasion it's not really something
that comes that naturally to me, so I'm working on it.
But Hegseth has announced an operation to remove narco terrorists
from our hemisphere, so it feels like that is something
(02:30):
that is going to be heating up. We've already discussed
some of the deployments of US military forces into the
Caribbean way more than we've seen in a very long time.
And then, of course, Clay, we have the designation of
Antifa abroad as an international terrorist organization.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
That's something we should discuss. But first stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I did want to just dive into this Caroline Levitt
off the top rope here on the Schumer shutdown, and
I do think it will be known increasingly to everybody
as the Schumer shutdown, because it was very much pushed
by Chuck Schumer and some of the Democrats around him.
But here is the White House Press Secretary at play.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Cut one, President Trump and Republicans slacked Chuck Schumer and
the entire Democrat Party. After forty three days of Chuck
standing out there trying to bravely hold the country hostage
and inflict massive pain on the American public, Chuck got
absolutely nothing.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
And now the knives are out for him.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
The Democrat Party is in complete disarray, and the truth
is they have been for ten years since President Trump
came on the political scene. They ran Senator Jillibrand and
Senator Mansion out of town. Now they're running Chucky Schumer
out of town. It's too bad. He turned into a Palestinian.
He did it for nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
There you go. That was last night on Fox. Clay.
I do think that.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
The Democrat this is a big l for them. This
is a big loss going up on the board. Although
they could point to these elections, I think they were
going to win those elections anyway. Honestly, I don't think
there were any surprises. This is Democrat states, or at
least Democrat momentum in a place like Virginia.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I think Jay Jones is the only one where you
look at and you say, boy, this was disgusting. I mean,
the attorney general who said that he wanted to kill
a political opponent's kids and piss on their graves. I'm
not sure what the official standard for behavior is, but
I would say, yeah, you know, that's a tough one
to get past. And I think candidly, I don't think
(04:38):
Republicans would have voted for someone who said that. I mean,
there's been a lot of evidence. You can go to
Alabama for instance, where the Democrat candidate won.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Remember Roy Moore.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
There were the hit pieces that came out against him,
the judge that would have won, and then the Washington
Post came out and had a story about his alleged
involvement with young girls. And I'm not trying to re
litigate that case in any way. I'm just saying in Alabama,
which is a deeper red state, as a result, a
(05:12):
Democrat ended up winning that Senate seat. That was Republicans
saying yeah, we can't roll with this. I think good, decent, honorable,
reasonable Democrats should have said, yeah, we'll stick with Jason
miaras he's already the existing attorney general, and we shouldn't
reward people who say things like what Jay Jones said. Now,
(05:36):
the dark side of that election is some Democrats actually
may have voted for him because he said that, which
is meaning, you know, not only were they looking past
what he said, some of them said, you know what,
I agree with him. There was a great Trump Derangement
syndrome article in Yesterday's Wall Street Journal, Buck saying that
(05:56):
it basically meets all the clinical definitions of it. Was
a psychiatrist basically walking through that Trump derangement syndrome is
real that and not in substantial number of people out
there have lost the ability to be rational and reasonable
in any way based on their antipathy for Trump. And
(06:17):
I think that's true for a lot of people out there,
and it happened in the Ags race.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I think it's also really important to note that my book,
which is coming out in February, which is called Manufacturing
Delusion and available for pre order right now on Amazon,
Clay goes into exactly that how do you make people
politically crazy, as in delusional and not able to see reality?
And clearly Trump derangement syndrome is the most apparent manifestation
(06:46):
of that that we see right now. There was the
COVID madness, there's the trans stuff, There's a whole bunch
of things, but there is a clear ability and it,
unfortunately is very prominent in America these days to make
a lot of people really nuts in the service of
a political agenda to believe crazy things. And that is
(07:06):
very scary because it is when people believe untrue and
crazy things that terrible things happen to societies. Go get
the pre order now. Manufacturing delusion, that's what we call it.
That's what I just did.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Right before this show, I did a fun Zoom podcast
show with Will Caine, who obviously has this show on
Fox News now your longtime friend, but we talked a
lot about the delusion. If you had been a diehard
sports fan, Buck, I think you would have seen so
much of the delusion going on in the world of sports,
(07:43):
and certainly saying men can be women as part of it.
But even just going through it was fun to kind
of go through some of these crazy stories. Over the
last week, there have been a lot of just justy
smalllette style stories made up in sports Lebron for instance.
For those of you out in LA, you'll remember this.
It almost gets no attention. He I think, falsely claimed
(08:06):
that somebody scrolled a racial slur on his twenty million
dollar mansion in LA, the Brentwood area of LA. And
I went through and did an investigation, called the police,
asked for police reports, the kind of things that someone
who is in media should do, and the LA police
just dropped that case and said we'd have found no
(08:27):
evidence that there was ever a crime committed. Most people
have no idea that happened, because at least Fox News exists.
In the world of politics, the New York Post exists,
there are entities that will kind of go in Shepherd
and look into stories like these. Now OutKick does. Certainly
there are hardly anything in sports where people will actually
(08:49):
ask these questions and say, wait a minute. Lebronesse small
letted that entire racial slur on the Gate store. Yes,
I think the evidence is that he did, but because
nobody covered it, it is kind of just a vanishing story.
Remember the Bubble Wallace noose story that everybody was like
hysteria for sure, absurd that NASCAR was super racist and
(09:11):
that some guy decided, Hey, I'm gonna send a message.
We're going to have a noose in Bubble Wallace. And
then the FBI got called in the FBI and they
did a big investigation, and they were like, this has
been here for years, and it's actually a common way
to tie ant. That was the conclusion. It's just I
think these things would tie in well with your book.
But yeah, I hope we're coming out of them, but
(09:34):
I'm a little bit afraid that we might not well.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I even there's even a whole trans chapter and of
course deal with the Riley Gain situation, and that guy
who was a girl who's or pretended to be a
girl to swim, and the fact that people go along
with this stuff. And I'll say this, the fact that
people sit around and pretend like Donald Trump is Hitler
is crazy. And then that there are news shows where
they still talk about the rise of fascism and they
(09:59):
speak about Trump in a way that is meant to
terrify emotionally and psychologically weak people. Now I mean that
it is not meant to amuse them. It is meant
to terrify the psychologically weak in the audience of the
New York Times the other and there's a lot of
neurotic people often confuse IQ with psychological strength. Not true
(10:21):
at all. A lot of very high IQ people actually
have tremendous difficulties dealing with the world around them. Yes, famously,
you could see like that guy Nash from a Beautiful
Mind if we've seen movies about this, others the correlation
between even genius and delusion and psychological issues. Howard Hughes,
I mean, there's all kinds of stuff right where you
(10:42):
can point to this and see My point here is
that there are a lot of very psychologically fragile people
who have coalesced. And this is true if you look
at things like heavy SSRI usage, you look at rates
of self described depression, anxiety, all this clusters on the
left side of the political aisle, and so their media
(11:05):
apparatus is constantly feeding into their neuroses and their actual
phobias they have.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
There are trumphobic people out there. I had a friend
in college, a good friend of mine.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Who is always a lib. He texts me, He's like,
what are you going to do when the stormtroopers are
pulling you and like your friends off the street. And
I felt bad for him, Like, you really think that
that's going to happen? You live in an alternate universe.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
They really do. And the delusional nature of this, I
think many of you. Here's the positive. I think there
are tons of you out there listening right now that
have come to see the truth. And I think every
day and every week and every month, we add a
(11:52):
few more people out.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
There insanity world.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
And the reason that I would be optimistic about this,
some of you would say, Okay, Clay, what are you
basing that optimism in the number of people who didn't
vote Trump in twenty sixteen that by twenty twenty four
did vote Trump. It is an extraordinary increase in Trump's support.
And you know, you go back to twenty sixteen, I
(12:18):
think it was sixty four million ish people voted for
Donald Trump. A lot of those people over the years
ahead have have passed away. So we probably have added
twenty million Trump voters between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four.
That's a sign that sanity will win. But boy, it's
(12:39):
been a battle, buck. And that's what I come back
to and just look at optimistically, is we probably have
seen between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four around twenty
million of you, many of whom are listening to us
right now. We're not Trump voters in sixteen, and by
twenty four they said I can't, I can't continue in
the trajectory that the nation has been going on. There's
(13:00):
an optimistic thought for you, and I hope those same
people show up in twenty six and certainly in twenty
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Speaker 5 (14:25):
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Speaker 1 (14:27):
Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get
your podcasts. Welcome back in Play, Travis buck Sexton Show.
We are rolling through the Friday edition of the program,
and really stock market I when I saw it open.
I know that a lot of you may not follow
the stock market from minute to minute, but I do,
(14:50):
and uh, it looked like it was going to be
a rough day in the stock market. I'm just looking
up at CNBC right now, and if you checked where
the stock market was at nine am Eastern in your
and where it is right now at twelve thirty, it
has had a massive move towards the positive where we
may well be challenging all time records yet again by
(15:10):
the end of the week, which is pretty extraordinary. And
it comes back Buck to I think the central question
as we move into twenty twenty six is not only
going to be where the economy is, but to what
extent do people start top to bottom, whether you're super
rich billionaire or somebody who is really living paycheck to paycheck.
(15:32):
You and I can speak to the paycheck to paycheck living.
Never have experienced the super rich billionaire life. I mean nice,
but do people start to feel it? Because the biggest
challenge here, I think is if you're trying to message
bidenomic style something that people don't feel when it comes
to daily cost or daily experience in their life, it
(15:54):
can make you feel out of touch. And so I
think the central challenge of twenty twenty six is to
what extent do people start to feel better about the economy.
Democrats are right, because they hate Trump, They're going to
pretend that things are awful. But those middle of the
road voters that will decide who wins the House, who
wins the Senate, how do you win those guys and gals.
(16:14):
To me, that's the biggest question as we start to
look towards the start of twenty twenty six, Well, we
certainly need to hear more, I think from this administration
about what the economic message, what the plans are for
twenty twenty six. Twenty twenty five has been very good.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I know people are worried about prices and feeling that pinch,
but that is something that was inherited. If I tell
you that the Biden administration had the worst inflation in
forty four, zero forty years, it's going to take more
than a year for people to feel like wages have
kept up with that. But they've been moving in the
right direction, and certainly the overall markets housing markets, the
(16:54):
situation with the tariffs. There's a lot to feel positive about.
But I do think Clay here, I'll put it this way,
front page of your favorite New York Times today, at
least on the website, a whole piece on how MAGA
is getting a little fed up with all the Trump
globe trotting and focus on other countries there or not.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I will tell you I have heard.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
From the faithful, both those with platforms and just everyday
folks that they're a little frustrated with some of that
right now too. It's not that there's promises aren't being kept,
it's that they think there's been too much of the
focus on that. Again, I'm not passing a judgment on
that right now one way or the other. I'm just
saying that there is a perception out there that we
(17:36):
need there to be This administration needs to focus more
on the kitchen table issues so called, well not so called,
but affordability is what we talk about now.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I think it's the number one story going into twenty
twenty six, and I think it's going to determine how
the midterms go.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Again.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
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All right, welcome back in here to Clay an Buck.
We're talking about how the political scene is playing out
right now in the aftermath of the down and jd
Vance Vice President doing a really phenomenal job, and I
feel very positive about the future of MAGA, the Republican
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Party America. First, all that stuff not just with JD.
Marco is doing a great job as Secretary of State.
Scott Bessen is a Treasury secretary. There's a lot of
really top tier political talent that Trump has surrounded himself with.
And I'll just say this the biggest difference I think
between other than maybe some focus and the being touched
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by the hand of God to save Trump's life so
that he could win that election. I mean, there's a
lot of things, but there's a big difference in the
teams this time around versus if you looked at a
year into Trump's first term in battle with the Russia collusion,
lie a lot of people around him that you know
weren't right for the job. You couldn't really trust them.
(19:58):
There were problems. This time around, the team is excellent,
and I think JD. Vance is right at the top
of that list, which is good because he's a vice president.
Here is JD talking about how the shutdown was much
ado about nothing and Democrats they own it, play.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
It longest shutdown on history.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Can you tell me what the point of all that was?
Speaker 6 (20:17):
I wish that I knew, Sean, because here's what the
Democrats actually accomplished. They caused a lot of stress for
our troops. They made our traffic controllers not get paid.
They caused a lot of flight cancelations, They had a
lot of people thinking they weren't going to get their
food benefits, all for literally nothing, Sean, because we could
have struck this exact deal forty five days ago. In fact,
we met with Hakeem Jefferies and Chuck Schumer and said
(20:39):
we will pass this exact deal.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
They said no.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
They put the American people through a ton of pain
and suffering for nothing. And we knew this was going
to happen, Sean. We knew the President of United States
said every single day. Eventually the Democrats are going to
realize this is an absurd position. We've got to reopen
the government.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And that's what they did.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I clay one part of this.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Just as we look on what happened here, imagine the
disillusionment of the Republican voter base if the Democrats were
six if they had caved on this. So we've got
a Republican president, Republican majority in the House. In the
Senate previously agreed to spending level that was only ever
(21:19):
in place because of a quote emergency under Biden. The
American rescue plan and they can just make this demand.
I mean, in retrospect, it was the whole thing was absurd.
They have just made themselves into such a reflexively anti
Trump party that there is a benefit in being the
(21:41):
most anti Trump Democrat. There isn't actually a tangible political
result that is beneficial though, Right, So this is one
of those things where we were talking about Jasmin Crockett,
and I do think it's an interesting conversation. Jasmin Crockett
can have for herself a successful brand that she has
created that simultaneously makes the larger Democrat brand worse, and
(22:04):
that's not really.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
What you want, right.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
The goal is for you to be the rising tide
that lifts all boats.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
MAGA.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I think Trump has very rarely when he's been on
the ballot harmed anybody else on the ballot around him.
And in fact, you can go look at the most
contentious states right, the seven toss up states. Trump, if
he had gotten the exact same support that he did
for all these other candidates, we'd have fifty seven or
(22:35):
fifty eight senators in Washington right now, right, Trump one Arizona,
the Senate candidate did not Trump one Michigan. The senate
candidate did not Trump one. Wisconsin, the senate candidate did
not Trump one. Nevada, the senate candidate did not Trump
won Georgia. So far, the senate candidates have not right
seeing a pattern. So Trump is the rising tide now.
(22:58):
Sometimes Dave McCormick our friends and was able to get
across that line in the toss up state of Pennsylvania.
But by and large ticket splitters actually voted Trump and
then they were more likely to vote Democrat. Jasmine Crockett,
please run for Senate in Texas, Jasmine, I hope they
clipped this.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
I hope this goes right to you.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
You are the candidate Texas Democrats need. You are the
voice of the oppressed in the state of Texas. No
one else can make the case like you can.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Please run. Clip that.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Share it with Jasmine. Okay, here's why, Buck. That would
be a disaster because she would motivate a tiny fringe
of the Democrat base, which is leading her to prominence,
but she would actually drag down the overall Democrat party
ticket around her. And I think one of the challenges
that Democrats have is being reflexively anti Trump works in
(23:52):
making you more popular in the Democrat Party, but actually
destroys the Democrat Party's brand on a larger context when
it comes to winning in states where it's tough. And
so I don't know who can thread that needle. Who
can be just kind of media mediocre Trump right, like
he's not hitler as a Democrat, so that you could
(24:14):
straddle that ability to grab the middle road voters. Maybe
it's Scretchen Whitmer. I don't know how that will play
out in and I think she's awful, by the way,
but she's shown up and been public at Trump press conferences.
She hasn't been running from him, if that makes sense.
And so I wonder can anybody nail that thread that
(24:35):
would make them a viable candidate twenty eight going forward.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
If you were to take Joe Biden and reverse the
tape about thirty years something like that, twenty something years.
I think that Gavin Newsom and Joe Biden are actually
from this. They came off the same assembly line. I
(24:59):
think that his real skill. And you can say, oh,
but Biden always played Biden Delaware as blue as blue
can be, has been for a long time. It's why
Joe Biden can get elected to the Senate for forty years.
I think that Gavin Newsom is preparing, and I know
we see that. We see it the same way that
he's going to be the guy for them. But I
think that he'll be able to use political bsing skills
(25:23):
to get over a lot of the real policy deficiencies
and challenges that exist as a result of his governance
of California. So I still think that O'Reilly, uncle Bill.
He disagrees with us on this one. We may be
carving up a delicious steak. I've never seen Bill in
an apron work in the grill. This might have to
happen out there on Strong Island, Uncle Bill on the grill.
(25:47):
I think that Gaven neusim's because to your point, it's
about you see someone like a Jasmine Crockett. Yes, I
think she's managed to build a brand for herself, but
I think there are limitations on that brand because of
our raise it. But someone like Aavin Newsom, he'll play
the game man and he'll say whatever he has to
say to whatever audience, and he'll say it pretty well,
(26:10):
and he'll be slick about it. Biden, we think of
now as the doddering old fool. He's kind of a
just a political wind up toy for a long time.
I mean, well, put aside the puppeteer stuff of his
later life, but I just mean he'd go and he'd grin,
and he'd say the stuff he had to say to
the people he had to say it to. Very newsome
esk in that respect, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Has a sociopathic ability to falsely connect with people. I
just I don't know, right, So I'm already looking ahead
to twenty eight. We should probably play at some point
in the show, we will the clips from JD Vance
talking about twenty eight because he's starting to talk about
his political future going forward, and he said, Hey, at
(26:54):
some point after the mid terms, I'll sit down with
President Trump and talk about with him what my plans are.
And there's always the possibility of, you know, there being
some wild card candidates out there, because I do think
a lot of people will run. And lord knows, I mean,
look at what happened in February of twenty twenty when
COVID suddenly showed up in an election year. There's any
(27:17):
number of crazy things that can happen as we move
towards that twenty twenty eight universe. I just think it's
going to be the Democrat side. Will there be a
lane for someone who's not crazy, because Joe Biden took
that lane and got the nomination, or is it going
to be a huge cadre of people competing in that
(27:40):
Jasmine Crocket crazy lane because that's what the party wants
in the party.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I think the Democrats need someone who the left knows
is actually a leftist.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
This is the Obama playbook.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
In the case of Biden, it was they knew that
he was the trojan horse. They knew that he was.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
A false flag essentially like, oh, I'm a moderate.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
No one thought that. Everyone knew the advisors were going
to be on the show, and the advisors were a
bunch of comedies. Same thing with Obama, except they thought
Obama was going to be making the decisions. But Obama
was even able to pretend to be something else on
some key issues to get elected that the Democrat base knew,
Oh yeah, no, he's not really going to do that though,
or he's not really going.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
To view things that way.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
And you know gay marriage, for example, being one of
the most prominent ones where he just said, yeah, I
changed my mind on that, and I think that that
was known all along that he would do that. So
Gavin Newsom, I think has that same skill set to
pretend to be something else. But back to the affordability issue,
which I know is something that is on a lot
of people's minds right now. Because look, I'll just say this.
(28:39):
My father in law is here today. Carrie and him
are actually at home depot right now working on some plantings,
you know, doing the things that that people do.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I have no I feel badly by the way I
have no.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I am not helpful. He is like he can, he
could build a house. I mean, he has built houses.
So he just shows the Archer house and fixes all
sorts of thoris that are broken. It's he's the father
in law with the tool belt who's just like, well,
you need to take a few sprockets and connect him
into the uh the flux capacitor and then you just
(29:12):
take this over thing here and you know, bang bang bang,
and I'm like, it works amazing. I have no idea
what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Father.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Laura's dad is also able to fix anything. And he
will show up and Laura will have a list of
things that she needs fixed and he'll just walk around
and fix him. I feel bad like he's trying to
include being in and tell me like how he's fixing
the things too. And I'm saying, yeah, like I know
what's going on, Clay, I have nophisticated enough to even
understand what's going on. I'm the same, I have no idea.
He's using tools that I've never even seen before. I'm like,
(29:41):
what is that?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
What is that thing?
Speaker 5 (29:43):
That thing?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
It looks like you use that to open like, uh,
you know a that of whale oil in the eighteen sixties, Like,
what is this?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I don't even know what this is?
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Anyway, here is here is a moment though where he
or there was a moment though where he came in
said I just bought milk. He's making coffee this morning
at the house Crockett obviously, and.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I just bought some milk.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
And he's like it was like eight dollars and I
just that actually is crazy.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Yeah, maybe it was.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Seven seventy or something whatever, but gallon of milk is
almost eight bucks here in Florida.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And this is at publics. This is not at some
this is not at shade fancy fancy. This is just
a grocery store in my neighborhood. Things have gotten really expensive.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
That that is a real thing that people should be
annoyed about because it is government policy. Were not at
a milk shortage, No, one hundred percent. And I think
this is again where Biden was so bad some of
you out there historically. I think the best analogy is
how long did it take for the inflation from Jimmy
(30:47):
Carter to burn out in public anger? And unfortunately you
just got used to what things cost and then people
were able to adjust. JD went right into this with
Sean last night, like cut twenty here, where he's saying, look, yes,
prices are high. This does take some time to adjust
Play twenty for.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
A lot of people out there, Sean, who are saying
things are expensive, and we have to remember they're expensive
because we inherited this terrible inflation crisis from the Biden administration.
But you've already seen signs that things are getting better.
The price of eggs has gone way down. The price
of energy has gone way down, the price of gasoline
has gone way down. And as we know, when the
(31:29):
price of energy goes down, that starts to filter out
into the entire economy. But that also takes a little
bit of time.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
It's truere you go and I think again, for those
of you who lived through the worst worst inflation of
Jimmy Carter, you and Ibock were so young. Was it
nineteen eighty four when you suddenly started thinking, Okay, the
Reagan economy is starting to take quite certainly, when he
(31:58):
won forty nine states, it's a pretty good sign that
people were voting with their pocketbooks. Then, But when do
people get used Because I'll be honest, I've never lived
through this. I'm still frustrated with what things cost because
you have in your mind what something should cost and
then you get a bill and it's way more than that,
and it makes you angry. And the big challenge, and
(32:20):
again I've said it, is you can't really dial that
back once price increases are embedded. You just have to
slow down the increase and then slowly people get used
to it.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I mean, do you feel like the Saltan of Brunei though?
When you buy Chick fil A for your kids these days,
it's like one hundred bucks.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
I mean it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yes, yeah, Like when I'm looking, when I'm sitting there
thinking to myself when I'm going through the drive through
and I see like I pull up and they're like,
that'll be sixty four dollars. I'm like, sixty four dollars.
Used to be, you could go into a restaurant, sit
down and have a meal and it would be like
sixty four dollars for my family. Now it's a fast
food meal. And by the way, this is one of
(33:01):
the challenges these fast casual chains are having in general,
is they're not much more. You know, the difference in
cost is not that substantial now between them, and.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
That delta has changed a lot in a big way.
So yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
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We will take some of your calls eight hundred and
two A two two eight A two. We're also going
to head out to California. Talk to our buddy Steve
Hilton at the bottom of the next hour. He's running
for governor as a Republican, and we wanted to talk
somewhat Buck about the fact that all of that area
(34:40):
that was burned in the wildfires, it's now been roughly
ten months or so since that happened. There's been almost
no rebuilding that has been allowed to take place at
all there. If you wonder what is going on why
people are so fed up with Gavin Newsom's leadership. That's
a lot of Democrats, Republicans, Independence people who live in
that LA area that lost their homes. We had Adam
(35:03):
Carolla on to talk about this because he has a
place and has lived in that area his whole life.
I do think that this is a major issue. We'll
talk about that with Steve Hilton.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Also.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
President Trump has posted on the Jeffrey Epstein story as
it appears more of those investigatory files are going to
be released soon, and he is saying something that you
and I have been talking about for a long time.
Why And I'll read that for you at the top
of the next hour. But something to think about this
(35:36):
part of this story that has never added up for
you or me, is how in the world did Jeffrey
Epstein get so filthy rich. Most people who become seven
eight hundred million dollar wealth billionaires, there's a big ticket
win that they had. They had an ownership and a
(35:57):
big company. They sold some a set that's tangible that
you can look at and say that's never been the
case with Epstein. How did he go from having virtually
nothing to being worth in the neighborhood of five six hundred,
seven hundred million dollars.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
What happened there?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Trump saying, let's look at the banks and figure out
what they knew about the transactions there and the money
that was moving in and out of his accounts.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yep I think that's the right move for Trump. Say,
you know what, if we're going to do this, let's
really do this everybody. Let's see who knew what and when,
because I have every confidence that none of this goes
anywhere near a problem for Trump personally. But some of
these financial big wigs and some of these banks, and
what were they doing with this guy? Play very interesting.
(36:45):
Trump takes us into that direction. We'll talk about it
coming up.
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