November 17, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of today’s Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show dives into explosive revelations surrounding the would-be Trump assassin in Butler, Pennsylvania, exposing shocking details that contradict the official narrative. Clay and Buck break down newly uncovered evidence from Tucker Carlson and Miranda Devine showing the suspect’s extremist ideology, violent threats posted openly on YouTube, and ties to radical left-wing movements like Antifa and trans activism. The hosts question why federal authorities failed to identify these clear warning signs, raising concerns about FBI competence—or possible cover-ups—when politically motivated violence targets conservatives.
The discussion expands to a broader pattern of domestic extremism, citing recent high-profile attacks linked to radical ideologies, including the Charlie Kirk assassination, the Covington school shooting, and the Minneapolis church attack. Clay and Buck argue these incidents reveal a growing national security threat fueled by far-left narratives and identity politics, while mainstream media and Democrats downplay the danger.
The show then pivots to breaking political news: Paul Finebaum, ESPN and SEC Network personality, signals serious interest in running for the U.S. Senate in Alabama. In an exclusive conversation, Finebaum explains what inspired him—citing the assassination of Charlie Kirk and a desire to unite Christians and Jews against rising cultural division. He outlines priorities like strengthening the economy, restoring trust in leadership, and addressing issues in college athletics. Clay and Buck weigh in on his chances, predicting a potential landslide if he enters the race.
The hour closes with a preview of upcoming topics, including Senator Markwayne Mullin’s take on U.S. military strikes against Venezuelan narco-terrorist boats and the broader fight against drug cartels. Listeners are invited to call in and share reactions on both the Trump assassination revelations and Finebaum’s possible Senate bid.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We
appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
are rolling through the Monday edition of the program. Lots
of revelations that came out over the course of the
weekends that we will be discussing. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
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scheduled to join us, as well as potential Senate candidate
Paul Finbaum from Alabama SEC Network ESPN, all of those places,
all of that discussion still to come. But Buck, this
is pretty crazy from Tucker Carlson and also from our
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friend Miranda Divine. Miranda Divine will join us tomorrow on
the program. There are new, i would say, pretty blockbuster
revelations that have just dropped about the would be Trump
assassin in Butler, Pennsylvania. Among some of the revelations, the
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guy was on YouTube posting violent threats against Donald Trump
for months in twenty twenty. Nothing was done to him.
He used they them pronouns. He evidently had some form
of furry fetish, hated Trump, loved political violence, was engaging
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in extremist rhetoric, and he called Trump racist and called
Republicans a cult. They have said that he was a Republican.
That is, Buck, a complete and total lie. And so
all of this again, you can go read it yourself.
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Miranda will be on the program tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
This is it was always we said on this program.
It's been over a year now since that July thirteenth shooting,
but it has always been the case that the idea
that somehow the Trump shooter was a Republican or a
Trump supporter, which is one of the things they tried
to float. It's always been ridiculous. But for all of
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these revelations to come out, not from everyone involved in
the in the actual investigation, but from the media, I
think is frankly inexcusable. And remember they have basically said, oh,
we may never know the motivations here. This guy didn't
leave any trail online. We've been unable to uncover anything
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about him. He had like a dozen social media accounts
where he was posting all the time, what is going
on here?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Well, also, how could it possibly take so long or
this to be uncovered? And why is it that this
was at least in part uncovered by Tucker Carlson's investigative team.
They have better resources, I mean credit to them. They
have better resources than the FBI and the intelligence community.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
The intelligence community and the federal.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Law enforcement apparatus is vast, my friends, and does have
tremendous power, as we know, because when they decide to
go after you for a nonviolent J six protest, they
can show up at five am, kick down your door,
find you anywhere in the country, and send thirty agents
we know that was there that was possible.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
They can send people to.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Go into Malania's underwear drawor and mar A Lago because
of some dusty documents in a bin that they can do.
But this this has to be uncovered in this manner.
And let's just be very clear about the situation. Now,
let's put this into context.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
How many Trantifa furry terrorists.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Do we have to have involved in the most heinous
and high profile violence of a political nature in the
country before we realize that this is and not just
realize act on the.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Realization that this is a really serious problem.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
How many of these the Charlie Kirk assassin a Trantifa
furry maniac. The Comington School massacre a Trantifa maniac. The
half an inch away from changing world history and taking
America into the darkest place it has been since the
Civil War. And that is not an exaggeration, unlike what
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the Libs do. That would be assassin as we find
out now a Trantifa maniac Clay, Minneapolis Tubuck, the Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Church shooting, that just happens. Yes, well there's even more
than there's even more than that. I mean, I'm just
going for the highest profile. There are a number of
them that have occurred where later on there's kind of
this whimpering of reporting of oh, yeah, they were using
they pronouns clay. We're always told this is a very
small subset of the population overall. I know it's been
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growing among gen Z and actually now it's falling. But
the self identified trends, and remember those numbers are usually
for LGBTQIAI plus it's like belonging to a club for
a lot of college kids. But actual they them trans
ideologues are responsible now for how many of the highest
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profile assassinations and assassination attempts of recent years. This is
a major national security problem. And the Democrats, by the way,
the mainstream Democrat party, the ideology clay that has people
saying horrible stuff to you. When you say, if you
have male you know, body parts, if you have a penis,
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you shouldn't be playing sports against women. That same ideology.
These are just the rat that comes from that. This
is pushed from the very top by the Democrat apparatus.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Here's the other thing that I think is so significant
about this. He was on YouTube under his own name
making violent threats. We're not talking about needing to have
the greatest crack team of investigators of all time to
figure out who this guy is. As soon as the
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assassination attempt happened, YouTube knew who he was and locked
down his account. And again, all of these postings are
now coming out. What's intriguing to me Buck is initial.
First of all, he's a it seems, as you would
well imagine at one of these lost souls of the Internet,
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a lost boy in many ways of the Internet. And
initially his posts on YouTube are very pro Trump and
very anti Democrat, and then COVID happens, and starting in
that January of twenty twenty window, he starts to become
extremely anti Trump and anti Republicans. Not going to shock
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a lot of people out there, he was very furious
about the fact that people didn't want to lock down,
that they weren't wearing masks, So he somehow succumbed to
left wing politics and it radicalized him. Now he goes
dark at some point in the summer in the fall
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of twenty twenty, but there are people interacting with him online.
I immediately think, wait a minute, did some of these
guys that he met online, did they then interact with
him and encourage him to attempt this assassination of President Trump.
I'm now questioning everything because what we were told that
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he had no coherent political it isology, that they couldn't
find any way to track him down, that he wasn't
active online. All of it's a lie, all of it.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And this is also on here.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Let's think about the political implications, Clay. This happened during
the election cycle, So wouldn't it matter a lot to
people to know that what is orthodoxy for the Democrat
Party a.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Man can become a woman.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
All this crazy sexual stuff too, that they're you know,
they're now non binary and use the weird pronouns and
if you're into furries and you're a them, I mean
this theff all comes from the left, a left. We
went into this election cycle, and let's be very honest
about what the mentality was.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You me, all of you with us right now.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
We were just so thankful and prayerful and this unbelievable
sigh of relief that Donald Trump was okay, and he
had the most badass political moment any of us have
ever seen in our lives when he raised the with
his side of his head, bloody a five five six
round missing, killing our president by an inch. Okay, we're
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thinking about it in that context, but there was another
context that was missing that.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Wasn't really a part of the discussion.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yes, it was someone tried to kill Donald Trump, but
it was a left wing radical who bought into the
ideology of the Democrat Party. It was a political hit
based upon what Democrats say daily about how we're erasing
trans people and there's a genocide of trans and all
this lunar and Trump is a Nazi and Trump is
a fascist, all of.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
That, and the second would be Trump assassin. We one
hundred percent know exactly what his perspective was. I think
probably only because he was actually active on Twitter and
Elon Musk didn't immediately hide it, and you could see
all the things that he had posted about he was
obsessed with Ukraine and the idea that Trump was Hitler
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and he thought he was a hero for trying to
kill him. This is the second one. This is I'm sorry,
this is a five alarm fire. And how many times
do we have to hear, Oh, we had no idea
what his motivations were, and then you just go into
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freaking YouTube and he's posting under his own name exactly
what his motivations are, calls for political violence. And they
told us that they couldn't figure any of this out.
I know Cash is going to be on the show
later this week, FBI director Cash Pattel, and I'm sure
that will be a point of discussion.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Can I just kind of point out one thing he's
definitely going to say is he was an FBI director
when this happened, or for all the months after it happened,
And so, you know, we have to make sure that
we parse out here who was in charge when this
went on, who ran that investigation. Now, they may have
had to reopen the investigation, and maybe they were slower
on that than they should have been, or to do
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it more resources. But Clay, I'm sure the FBI handover
was Oh, we've already looked into this and done everything
that's right.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I'm sure that that's true. But what does it say
that the New York Post and Tucker Carlson are more
reliable sources for investigating a would be assassin of Donald
Trump than our security apparatus, including the FBI. I mean,
this is troubling when I read all this this morning
as I was getting ready, and when I saw these
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videos and everything else, this is staggering levels of incompetence
such that it makes me wonder is it actually in
competence at all.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Trantifa is the most dangerous terrorist ideology in America right now.
That is a reality that we all have to understand.
This is domestic extremism, domestic terrorism. However someone wants to
get into the descriptions of it. This is politically motivated
violence that has a common apt that cannot be ignored.
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It is individuals who have taken the Democrat line on
this stuff, which is crazy, It is deranged. It is
delusional to think that you can become a different gender.
And what's worse is that they add on top of this,
those of us who refuse to go along with the
delusion are monsters are Nazis, and what do we all
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know you can do to Nazis? What are you allowed
to do to those who are fascists?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
This is why they call themselves Antifa. This is why Trantifa,
the trans Antifa wing, is responsible for these kinds of actions.
But Clay, the Charlie Kirk assassin, the almost Donald Trump assassin,
the Covington school shooter, as you point at the Minneapolis
church shooting, these are some of the worst things we
have seen in this country in years. And in the
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case of those political assassinations and almost assassination of Trump
would have been the worst assassination we have seen, perhaps
in the history of this country. Honestly, would have torn
the country apart, far more if Trump was killed than
even what happened to JFK.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And I think that's just the truth.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
And this all happened in the last couple of years,
all of them directly connected, all of them trans related
elements of violence. And again they covered all of this up.
About the Butler, Pennsylvania shooter, they told us all we
came on this program, we talked about, Hey, we don't
believe that this guy was truly without a footprint and
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that there was no animus involved. People said, Oh, we
don't really know why he tried to kill the president.
We may never know.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
That was the official FBI statement.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
But think of how many people on the ideological side
of this are complicit in the delusion. And I'm not
saying that they are criminally responsible for these assassination attempts,
but I am saying that they promote a lie in
our society that has resulted in some of the most
dangerous political violence that we have ever seen. And they
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are promoted. They promote this from the top of the
Democrat Party. The Biden administration was putting out White House
press releases on the need for trans care, surgery, hormones
for miners, for miners, everybody. Yes, they have gone completely
bonkers on this, and they were saying that we were
the monsters. They were saying that we were the bad
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people because we were trying to protect kids and protect
women and protect the American people. And Clay, what do
we find out in the Covington shooting. Why did it
take so long for the manifesto to come out? Because
they just didn't want the public to have the real
proof We all knew, but they didn't want the proof,
and now another time they can. Oh, they can never
find the real motive. When it's a Trantifa left wing
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maniac who aligns with a lot of Democrat orthodoxy, then
it's really hard to figure out the motive. Maybe it's
a Trump supporter who shot at Trump. Think about how
insane that is they were saying that. So it's my friends,
we have to see this for what it is. I
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Look, we're gonna be taking your calls if you're calling
in your writing in on the revelations about the would
be Trump assassin. We're gonna stay on that story, but
we're gonna pivot just for a moment here. Clay, you
know a lot more about Paul Finebamd than I do.
But I'm now very interested because he is going to
be running as a Republican for saidate, tell us what's
going on here.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, it's not officially official yet. He set down for
an interview with me, said that he was looking at
it in a significant fashion, and I was talking with
him this morning and he wanted to come on and
talk about it more in earnest. I know a lot
of people in Alabama are dealing with the big Oklahoma
win over Alabama, the Iron Bowl, buck the Alabama Auburn
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game coming up in a couple of weeks.
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But he's gonna come on with us.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I think people will enjoy this and he's going to
continue to express his interest. We're in the middle of
a college football season. Most of the state of Alabama
is obsessed with what's going to happen in the Iron
Bowl and what just happened. We'll talk with Senator Mark
Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma, who was at the game down
with Katie Britt, senator from Alabama right now. We'll talk
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some of this, but I would say, maybe get cha popcorn.
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Paul fine Baumb maybe in the future, Senator Paul fine
Baum from Alabama. I know that everybody in your state
right now, Paul is fired up about what happened with
Oklahoma beating Alabama in the Iron Bowl game against Auburn,
and you can give us a take on that in
a moment. But you are seriously considering running for the
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Senate in Alabama. You talked about this with me about
a month or so ago. What has happened since then,
What is your process like, and how did this come
to be a reality in many ways?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Clay, First of all, it came to be a reality
when a couple of very influential people reached out to
me just about the time that Bruce Pearl chose not
to run. There was an evolution and I started it
back in May. President Trump came to Tuscaloosa and I
said an interview President Trump. While you're there, police talk
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Nick Saban into running for the open seat vacated by
coach Tumberville. Saban obviously chose not to. Pearl was next,
and after Bruce Pearl dropped dropped out and decided not
to do it, a group, the same group I believe,
very unhappy with a rather meager field in Alabama, came
to me and I was thinking about it, and then
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September tenth happened, Clay and that was, of course, as
everyone listening knows, when Charlie Kirk was tragically assassinated, and
it got me thinking, and as I alluded, in the
aftermath of our conversation, I talked to a number of people,
including my close friend and co worker Tim Tebow, who
was very close to Charlie, and it inspired me to
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want to keep moving forward. And we had our conversation,
and naturally there was a reaction, but the typical action
as well from the low level political types who tried
to drive me out of the race even before I
had gotten in. And then a number of other people
kept saying, you have to make a decision, you can't wait,
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and just to finally circle this all around, Clay. You
know what's going on in Alabama and everywhere in the
country right now. We're in the middle of the college
football season, and I simply couldn't walk away. And I've
had a number of people say, listen, if you don't
get in by November one, November tenth, we're going to
move on. And I said, well, you're going to have to,
because I'm not getting in until I get through this
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season and completely think it through. And there's one other
thing I do want to say in terms of Charlie
Kirk and what he stood for. And I've talked to
a couple of people from Turning Point, and whether I
run or not, I am deeply committed to following what
he did and what I saw jd Vance do masterfully
in Oxford a couple of weeks ago, and that spend
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time on college campuses with a group of young people,
especially males, who, by the way, are big fans of you,
Buck and who bought your book, had made it a bestseller,
and who I think are really where the future is
in this country.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
What do you think the impact would be as a
Jewish person running for the Senate in Alabama?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You mentioned Bruce Pearl Bruce Pearl is also Jewish.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
It seems to me there's a real war between good
and evil going on. I think the assassination of Charlie
Kirk was a part of this. I think it also
ties into the October seventh, twenty twenty three attack we saw.
There's obviously a lot of Christians and a lot of
Jews in Alabama who are on the side of good.
What do you think you could do as a Jewish
senator from Alabama? Should you decide to run to bring
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Christians and Jews together.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
That would be one of the major goals, Clay, because
right now I don't need to tell anyone listening to
the show where that issue is and how much division
is out there. And I had a political operative tell
me about a month ago. Listen. I like you apology
mind higher career. I appreciate how you've spoken out on
hypocrisy and held the people that run college football accountable.
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But you're Jewish and it will never work in Alabama.
I disagree strongly. I have lived in Alabama most of
my adult life. I think people here have taken a
ridiculously unfair attack and have been painted in a corner
that may have been true fifty or sixty years ago,
but is not true today. And I'm not going to
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run on being a Jewish Republican senator if I chose
to from Alabama, but I think it would standing up there,
assuming it happened with Senator britt who is someone who
has represented the great values of the state. I think
we would make an incredible tandem. And I think I'm
the only person that I'm not in the field, but
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I think I'm the only person that could actually do that.
Everyone else, it seems, are the people leading in the
so called polling are your career politician. I'm not going
to waste time attacking career politicians. But the state of
Alabama spoke six six years ago with with coach cover Bill,
you know what that was all about, Clay, you encouraged him.
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Bruce would have been the same way. And who are they?
They're people that speak their mind, that don't listen to pollsters,
that that say, I'm not going to do that because
it's going to help me get in with the White
House or get the president's endorsement. Everybody wants that, but
but that's not who I am. And if if I
chose to run and uh, and and had something that
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I disagree, But first of all, I would do it privately,
am I kind of go on CNN, uh and and
and and tell everybody that I disagree. But but I
also think that the problem we have nowadays, especially today,
is that people uh just want to suck up. They
want to sell their soul, do anything humanly possible so
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they can get a check mark from the White House
or the President or someone else. And and that's that's
my biggest concern running, is that that's not who I
am play, and that's not why we have been friends
a long time, and that's not what prompted you to
get into this field. Because the audience may have forgotten
you, you were in my field and my company was pretty
close to hiring you a number of years ago until
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it got stopped because you were too controversial.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
That sounds about right, Paul, Thanks for being here with us.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
This is buck and I'm not as familiar with the
SEC football world as play, which is just putting it mildly,
but I certainly have paid very close attention to the
Senate for a long time.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Oh, I'll just throw this out there.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
If you do formally decide to run, I know a
really great radio show with almost six hundred stations that
you should probably announce it on. So I'm just just
trying to help, trying to be a helpful guy. So
if and when the day comes when you formally announce,
I think Clay and Buck would be a great place
for you to do it. But beyond that, if you
were to transition from what you have been doing in
the world of sports and speaking very candidly to the
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people of Alabama about all things around that to the Senate,
the United States Senate, what are the issues that really
gets you the most energized. You spoke of being called
to this in part because of the feeling of urgency
to save this country in the aftermath of the Charlie
Kirk assassination. But on a policy level, what do you
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want to do what would really matter to you as
a senator?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
The most important thing, Buck, I believe is what matters
most to every Alabamian or every person from Connecticut or Texas.
And that's how am I doing what is going on
in my life right now, And it starts with the
economy that ultimately drives people to the poult I'm particular
glad to see the White House understand that right now,
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because well, foreign policy is essential and we can't have
a safe and secure nation without it. The pocketbook matters most.
And that's what I hear. And I realizing that I
do a talk show, not a political show, but everyday
people that come up to me, no matter where I am,
come to me and say, how are you going to
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make my life better? So I think that has to
be the number one go and and clan book. One
more thing, if if I could divert for a second,
because I don't want to miss this moment. What what
what I have heard? I mentioned young people, and I'm
on a college campus every Friday and Saturday. They are
fed up with their future unless things change. But what's
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really interesting if I'm not going to name them, but
I've had head football coaches reach out to me directly
and then directly through through from through text. I've had
college administrators, college presidents. And that is the scary part
because every time I think about not doing it, and
and that that happens too often when you're trying to
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live in the moment of the season, I get. I
get encouragement and nourishment from so many of these people
and it is encouraging and refreshing. But but it also
goes to another issue. And this is not the most
important issue in the country. The economy is in our
national security, But the most important issue for where I
live every day for four hours is college athletics. And
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you heard the president a reference that on McAfee and
let it was censored in your house, Clay and Buck,
but that we need more work there. And Tommy tumber
Will did a lot of good. But unfortunately, if some
of the predictions are true of where we are going
in another year, that may be gone forever.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
You got coaches asking you to run in college football,
you got athletic directors, presidents of schools. Imagine that has
been flattering. What is your time frame? I know the
primary I believe is in May. In Alabama, obviously there's
a campaign season, but as you also noted, the number
one story in Alabama right now is the Iron Bowl
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in a couple of weeks. Have you put on your
calendar a date whereby you need to make a decision.
What is the process like for you as you go
through and decide whether or not you're going to run?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yeah, Clay, the two biggest issues here are the Iron
Bowl and whether to fry turkey on Thanksgiving. Uh, the
timetable is right as the season ends, and I, you know,
I'm under contract to ESPN, and I feel like I
have to get to the end of the season before
making a decision. And if it costs me getting in,
then I will find something, uh else to to to
(29:29):
let my mind wander on. But but but that that
is where it is, and it's not easy, and that's
my decisions, nobody else's. And I do want to thank
uh Burt Magnus at ESPN for allowing me uh this time.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
He's the He's he's the top person in my world.
And it was very A lot of people would have said, listen,
you you have to You're you're out. You're not going
to be able to talk about this at this the situation.
But but but he has been incredibly kind. The other
thing I'm just trying to deal with is it is
just my lane. And I shouldn't be saying this because
that's not what politicians are supposed to say. But I've
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been under a microscope for forty years. I've said a
lot of things, as you and Buck have said. I've
built a national brand, and I dealt with people during
on air crisises. And you talk about an on air crisis, Clay,
try maybe sitting an audience on the night of January tenth,
two years ago when the note when the news bulletin
(30:28):
broke that Nick Saban was resigning and retiring. I mean that.
I mean that that took every ounce of patience to
because because that was a national nightmare for the state
of Alabama. But you also what also happens when you're
under that microscope and every single thing you have said
gets recorded and regurgitated, is you have to answer for
(30:51):
a lot of things. And that's really where I am
right now, because all the low level politicians and the
operatives are saying, well, you said this about the president,
and you once said this about Nick Saban. I've actually
been criticized Clay for this. Nick Saban came out in
twenty twenty and said that he did a public service
ad during COVID for masking and social distancing, and then
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he marched with his players during a bom march. I
praised him, and you know why I praised and forget
the politics of it. Ed Oxeron did not do that.
He lost his team, his locker room, and ultimately got fired.
And those are the things that people are trying to
keep me out of the race for criticizing the president.
Once during a debate with Stephen A. Smith and praising
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Nick Saban, I don't know if I can win on
the debate with Stephen A. Smith, but I'll take my shots.
I'm praising Nick Saban in the state of Alabama.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Do you think you would beat the people who are running? Like,
if you really got in there, you talk for a living,
you communicate for a living. I tend to think you'd
be pretty good at it. The President obviously came out
of the world of meet yet he's brought in a
lot of people Fox News and otherwise who have come
from the world of media, and they've done a great job.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Do you think you'd win?
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Yes, I do, And I've asked a number of people.
Because you don't want to get and raised and haven't
become a disaster, I think the better question is to you, Clay,
do you think I would win? Because you understand the
state of Alabama, You're beloved. I was at it. I
was in an event about three weeks ago. The most
prestigious group in the entire state. It's called the Monday
Morning Quarterback Club. They're bringing people from all over the country.
(32:31):
I was about to speak, and before I was introduced,
the head of the group got up in front of
the audience and said, we have a big announcement to
make our guest speaker in our year end banquet. And
I was like, going, Saban and he said it will
be Clay Travis and I going, oh my goodness, I
mean and there was an absolute cheer. So the reason
(32:51):
I turned the question back to you is you know
the state of Alabama.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, you would win in a landslide. But I told
Buck you would win in a landslide. Buck's right. When
you decide to run, you come on, you announce it
with us. We'll make that even more likely. Potentially next
Senator Paul fine bamb talking about the big Oklahoma loss
on his SEC Network show later today, Senator Finebaum potentially,
thanks for the time here and we'll talk to.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
You again soon.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
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We have an Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, he'll talk
to us about the latest strike on those boats, those
Venezuelan Narco terrorists designated boats that our Department of Wars
blowing up. I think they've gotten to twenty of them
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plus twenty plus now boats they've blown it. They're blown
up a bunch of boats. This has now become a
pretty consistent drum beat in the news cycle of these
boats are being blown up. It is a little surprising.
I think at some level Clay that, well, we'd have
to see the numbers. Is this actually reducing I would
(35:09):
think it would be harder to get people to be
drug runners if they were gonna get blown It's one
thing that if you're going to spend time in a
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if you're actually going to be blown to smithereens out
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I think it's the message of deterrence that's being sent
because a lot of these guys, it's one thing to
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Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We
appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
are rolling through the Monday edition of the program. Lots
of revelations that came out over the course of the
weekends that we will be discussing. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
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scheduled to join us, as well as potential Senate candidate
Paul Finbaum from Alabama SEC Network ESPN, all of those places,
all of that discussion still to come. But Buck, this
is pretty crazy from Tucker Carlson and also from our
(00:46):
friend Miranda Divine. Miranda Divine will join us tomorrow on
the program. There are new, i would say, pretty blockbuster
revelations that have just dropped about the would be Trump
assassin in Butler, Pennsylvania. Among some of the revelations, the
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guy was on YouTube posting violent threats against Donald Trump
for months in twenty twenty. Nothing was done to him.
He used they them pronouns. He evidently had some form
of furry fetish, hated Trump, loved political violence, was engaging
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in extremist rhetoric, and he called Trump racist and called
Republicans a cult. They have said that he was a Republican.
That is, Buck, a complete and total lie. And so
all of this again, you can go read it yourself.
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Miranda will be on the program tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
This is it was always we said on this program.
It's been over a year now since that July thirteenth shooting,
but it has always been the case that the idea
that somehow the Trump shooter was a Republican or a
Trump supporter, which is one of the things they tried
to float. It's always been ridiculous. But for all of
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these revelations to come out, not from everyone involved in
the in the actual investigation, but from the media, I
think is frankly inexcusable. And remember they have basically said, oh,
we may never know the motivations here. This guy didn't
leave any trail online. We've been unable to uncover anything
(02:48):
about him. He had like a dozen social media accounts
where he was posting all the time, what is going
on here?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Well, also, how could it possibly take so long or
this to be uncovered? And why is it that this
was at least in part uncovered by Tucker Carlson's investigative team.
They have better resources, I mean credit to them. They
have better resources than the FBI and the intelligence community.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
The intelligence community and the federal.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Law enforcement apparatus is vast, my friends, and does have
tremendous power, as we know, because when they decide to
go after you for a nonviolent J six protest, they
can show up at five am, kick down your door,
find you anywhere in the country, and send thirty agents
we know that was there that was possible.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
They can send people to.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Go into Malania's underwear drawor and mar A Lago because
of some dusty documents in a bin that they can do.
But this this has to be uncovered in this manner.
And let's just be very clear about the situation. Now,
let's put this into context.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
How many Trantifa furry terrorists.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Do we have to have involved in the most heinous
and high profile violence of a political nature in the
country before we realize that this is and not just
realize act on the.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Realization that this is a really serious problem.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
How many of these the Charlie Kirk assassin a Trantifa
furry maniac. The Comington School massacre a Trantifa maniac. The
half an inch away from changing world history and taking
America into the darkest place it has been since the
Civil War. And that is not an exaggeration, unlike what
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the Libs do. That would be assassin as we find
out now a Trantifa maniac Clay, Minneapolis Tubuck, the Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Church shooting, that just happens. Yes, well there's even more
than there's even more than that. I mean, I'm just
going for the highest profile. There are a number of
them that have occurred where later on there's kind of
this whimpering of reporting of oh, yeah, they were using
they pronouns clay. We're always told this is a very
small subset of the population overall. I know it's been
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growing among gen Z and actually now it's falling. But
the self identified trends, and remember those numbers are usually
for LGBTQIAI plus it's like belonging to a club for
a lot of college kids. But actual they them trans
ideologues are responsible now for how many of the highest
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profile assassinations and assassination attempts of recent years. This is
a major national security problem. And the Democrats, by the way,
the mainstream Democrat party, the ideology clay that has people
saying horrible stuff to you. When you say, if you
have male you know, body parts, if you have a penis,
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you shouldn't be playing sports against women. That same ideology.
These are just the rat that comes from that. This
is pushed from the very top by the Democrat apparatus.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Here's the other thing that I think is so significant
about this. He was on YouTube under his own name
making violent threats. We're not talking about needing to have
the greatest crack team of investigators of all time to
figure out who this guy is. As soon as the
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assassination attempt happened, YouTube knew who he was and locked
down his account. And again, all of these postings are
now coming out. What's intriguing to me Buck is initial.
First of all, he's a it seems, as you would
well imagine at one of these lost souls of the Internet,
(06:47):
a lost boy in many ways of the Internet. And
initially his posts on YouTube are very pro Trump and
very anti Democrat, and then COVID happens, and starting in
that January of twenty twenty window, he starts to become
extremely anti Trump and anti Republicans. Not going to shock
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a lot of people out there, he was very furious
about the fact that people didn't want to lock down,
that they weren't wearing masks, So he somehow succumbed to
left wing politics and it radicalized him. Now he goes
dark at some point in the summer in the fall
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of twenty twenty, but there are people interacting with him online.
I immediately think, wait a minute, did some of these
guys that he met online, did they then interact with
him and encourage him to attempt this assassination of President Trump.
I'm now questioning everything because what we were told that
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he had no coherent political it isology, that they couldn't
find any way to track him down, that he wasn't
active online. All of it's a lie, all of it.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And this is also on here.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Let's think about the political implications, Clay. This happened during
the election cycle, So wouldn't it matter a lot to
people to know that what is orthodoxy for the Democrat
Party a.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Man can become a woman.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
All this crazy sexual stuff too, that they're you know,
they're now non binary and use the weird pronouns and
if you're into furries and you're a them, I mean
this theff all comes from the left, a left. We
went into this election cycle, and let's be very honest
about what the mentality was.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
You me, all of you with us right now.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
We were just so thankful and prayerful and this unbelievable
sigh of relief that Donald Trump was okay, and he
had the most badass political moment any of us have
ever seen in our lives when he raised the with
his side of his head, bloody a five five six
round missing, killing our president by an inch. Okay, we're
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thinking about it in that context, but there was another
context that was missing that.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Wasn't really a part of the discussion.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yes, it was someone tried to kill Donald Trump, but
it was a left wing radical who bought into the
ideology of the Democrat Party. It was a political hit
based upon what Democrats say daily about how we're erasing
trans people and there's a genocide of trans and all
this lunar and Trump is a Nazi and Trump is
a fascist, all of.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
That, and the second would be Trump assassin. We one
hundred percent know exactly what his perspective was. I think
probably only because he was actually active on Twitter and
Elon Musk didn't immediately hide it, and you could see
all the things that he had posted about he was
obsessed with Ukraine and the idea that Trump was Hitler
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and he thought he was a hero for trying to
kill him. This is the second one. This is I'm sorry,
this is a five alarm fire. And how many times
do we have to hear, Oh, we had no idea
what his motivations were, and then you just go into
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freaking YouTube and he's posting under his own name exactly
what his motivations are, calls for political violence. And they
told us that they couldn't figure any of this out.
I know Cash is going to be on the show
later this week, FBI director Cash Pattel, and I'm sure
that will be a point of discussion.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Can I just kind of point out one thing he's
definitely going to say is he was an FBI director
when this happened, or for all the months after it happened,
And so, you know, we have to make sure that
we parse out here who was in charge when this
went on, who ran that investigation. Now, they may have
had to reopen the investigation, and maybe they were slower
on that than they should have been, or to do
(11:00):
it more resources. But Clay, I'm sure the FBI handover
was Oh, we've already looked into this and done everything
that's right.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I'm sure that that's true. But what does it say
that the New York Post and Tucker Carlson are more
reliable sources for investigating a would be assassin of Donald
Trump than our security apparatus, including the FBI. I mean,
this is troubling when I read all this this morning
as I was getting ready, and when I saw these
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videos and everything else, this is staggering levels of incompetence
such that it makes me wonder is it actually in
competence at all.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Trantifa is the most dangerous terrorist ideology in America right now.
That is a reality that we all have to understand.
This is domestic extremism, domestic terrorism. However someone wants to
get into the descriptions of it. This is politically motivated
violence that has a common apt that cannot be ignored.
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It is individuals who have taken the Democrat line on
this stuff, which is crazy, It is deranged. It is
delusional to think that you can become a different gender.
And what's worse is that they add on top of this,
those of us who refuse to go along with the
delusion are monsters are Nazis, and what do we all
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know you can do to Nazis? What are you allowed
to do to those who are fascists?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
This is why they call themselves Antifa. This is why Trantifa,
the trans Antifa wing, is responsible for these kinds of actions.
But Clay, the Charlie Kirk assassin, the almost Donald Trump assassin,
the Covington school shooter, as you point at the Minneapolis
church shooting, these are some of the worst things we
have seen in this country in years. And in the
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case of those political assassinations and almost assassination of Trump
would have been the worst assassination we have seen, perhaps
in the history of this country. Honestly, would have torn
the country apart, far more if Trump was killed than
even what happened to JFK.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And I think that's just the truth.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
And this all happened in the last couple of years,
all of them directly connected, all of them trans related
elements of violence. And again they covered all of this up.
About the Butler, Pennsylvania shooter, they told us all we
came on this program, we talked about, Hey, we don't
believe that this guy was truly without a footprint and
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that there was no animus involved. People said, Oh, we
don't really know why he tried to kill the president.
We may never know.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
That was the official FBI statement.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
But think of how many people on the ideological side
of this are complicit in the delusion. And I'm not
saying that they are criminally responsible for these assassination attempts,
but I am saying that they promote a lie in
our society that has resulted in some of the most
dangerous political violence that we have ever seen. And they
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are promoted. They promote this from the top of the
Democrat Party. The Biden administration was putting out White House
press releases on the need for trans care, surgery, hormones
for miners, for miners, everybody. Yes, they have gone completely
bonkers on this, and they were saying that we were
the monsters. They were saying that we were the bad
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people because we were trying to protect kids and protect
women and protect the American people. And Clay, what do
we find out in the Covington shooting. Why did it
take so long for the manifesto to come out? Because
they just didn't want the public to have the real
proof We all knew, but they didn't want the proof,
and now another time they can. Oh, they can never
find the real motive. When it's a Trantifa left wing
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maniac who aligns with a lot of Democrat orthodoxy, then
it's really hard to figure out the motive. Maybe it's
a Trump supporter who shot at Trump. Think about how
insane that is they were saying that. So it's my friends,
we have to see this for what it is. I
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in your writing in on the revelations about the would
be Trump assassin. We're gonna stay on that story, but
we're gonna pivot just for a moment here. Clay, you
know a lot more about Paul Finebamd than I do.
But I'm now very interested because he is going to
be running as a Republican for saidate, tell us what's
going on here.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, it's not officially official yet. He set down for
an interview with me, said that he was looking at
it in a significant fashion, and I was talking with
him this morning and he wanted to come on and
talk about it more in earnest. I know a lot
of people in Alabama are dealing with the big Oklahoma
win over Alabama, the Iron Bowl, buck the Alabama Auburn
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Speaker 2 (17:12):
But he's gonna come on with us.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I think people will enjoy this and he's going to
continue to express his interest. We're in the middle of
a college football season. Most of the state of Alabama
is obsessed with what's going to happen in the Iron
Bowl and what just happened. We'll talk with Senator Mark
Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma, who was at the game down
with Katie Britt, senator from Alabama right now. We'll talk
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Paul fine Baumb maybe in the future, Senator Paul fine
Baum from Alabama. I know that everybody in your state
right now, Paul is fired up about what happened with
Oklahoma beating Alabama in the Iron Bowl game against Auburn,
and you can give us a take on that in
a moment. But you are seriously considering running for the
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Senate in Alabama. You talked about this with me about
a month or so ago. What has happened since then,
What is your process like, and how did this come
to be a reality in many ways?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Clay, First of all, it came to be a reality
when a couple of very influential people reached out to
me just about the time that Bruce Pearl chose not
to run. There was an evolution and I started it
back in May. President Trump came to Tuscaloosa and I
said an interview President Trump. While you're there, police talk
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Nick Saban into running for the open seat vacated by
coach Tumberville. Saban obviously chose not to. Pearl was next,
and after Bruce Pearl dropped dropped out and decided not
to do it, a group, the same group I believe,
very unhappy with a rather meager field in Alabama, came
to me and I was thinking about it, and then
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September tenth happened, Clay and that was, of course, as
everyone listening knows, when Charlie Kirk was tragically assassinated, and
it got me thinking, and as I alluded, in the
aftermath of our conversation, I talked to a number of people,
including my close friend and co worker Tim Tebow, who
was very close to Charlie, and it inspired me to
(20:51):
want to keep moving forward. And we had our conversation,
and naturally there was a reaction, but the typical action
as well from the low level political types who tried
to drive me out of the race even before I
had gotten in. And then a number of other people
kept saying, you have to make a decision, you can't wait,
(21:11):
and just to finally circle this all around, Clay. You
know what's going on in Alabama and everywhere in the
country right now. We're in the middle of the college
football season, and I simply couldn't walk away. And I've
had a number of people say, listen, if you don't
get in by November one, November tenth, we're going to
move on. And I said, well, you're going to have to,
because I'm not getting in until I get through this
(21:31):
season and completely think it through. And there's one other
thing I do want to say in terms of Charlie
Kirk and what he stood for. And I've talked to
a couple of people from Turning Point, and whether I
run or not, I am deeply committed to following what
he did and what I saw jd Vance do masterfully
in Oxford a couple of weeks ago, and that spend
(21:52):
time on college campuses with a group of young people,
especially males, who, by the way, are big fans of you,
Buck and who bought your book, had made it a bestseller,
and who I think are really where the future is
in this country.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
What do you think the impact would be as a
Jewish person running for the Senate in Alabama?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
You mentioned Bruce Pearl Bruce Pearl is also Jewish.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
It seems to me there's a real war between good
and evil going on. I think the assassination of Charlie
Kirk was a part of this. I think it also
ties into the October seventh, twenty twenty three attack we saw.
There's obviously a lot of Christians and a lot of
Jews in Alabama who are on the side of good.
What do you think you could do as a Jewish
senator from Alabama? Should you decide to run to bring
(22:41):
Christians and Jews together.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
That would be one of the major goals, Clay, because
right now I don't need to tell anyone listening to
the show where that issue is and how much division
is out there. And I had a political operative tell
me about a month ago. Listen. I like you apology
mind higher career. I appreciate how you've spoken out on
hypocrisy and held the people that run college football accountable.
(23:07):
But you're Jewish and it will never work in Alabama.
I disagree strongly. I have lived in Alabama most of
my adult life. I think people here have taken a
ridiculously unfair attack and have been painted in a corner
that may have been true fifty or sixty years ago,
but is not true today. And I'm not going to
(23:27):
run on being a Jewish Republican senator if I chose
to from Alabama, but I think it would standing up there,
assuming it happened with Senator britt who is someone who
has represented the great values of the state. I think
we would make an incredible tandem. And I think I'm
the only person that I'm not in the field, but
(23:49):
I think I'm the only person that could actually do that.
Everyone else, it seems, are the people leading in the
so called polling are your career politician. I'm not going
to waste time attacking career politicians. But the state of
Alabama spoke six six years ago with with coach cover Bill,
you know what that was all about, Clay, you encouraged him.
(24:11):
Bruce would have been the same way. And who are they?
They're people that speak their mind, that don't listen to pollsters,
that that say, I'm not going to do that because
it's going to help me get in with the White
House or get the president's endorsement. Everybody wants that, but
but that's not who I am. And if if I
chose to run and uh, and and had something that
(24:31):
I disagree, But first of all, I would do it privately,
am I kind of go on CNN, uh and and
and and tell everybody that I disagree. But but I
also think that the problem we have nowadays, especially today,
is that people uh just want to suck up. They
want to sell their soul, do anything humanly possible so
(24:51):
they can get a check mark from the White House
or the President or someone else. And and that's that's
my biggest concern running, is that that's not who I
am play, and that's not why we have been friends
a long time, and that's not what prompted you to
get into this field. Because the audience may have forgotten
you, you were in my field and my company was pretty
close to hiring you a number of years ago until
(25:13):
it got stopped because you were too controversial.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
That sounds about right, Paul, Thanks for being here with us.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
This is buck and I'm not as familiar with the
SEC football world as play, which is just putting it mildly,
but I certainly have paid very close attention to the
Senate for a long time.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Oh, I'll just throw this out there.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
If you do formally decide to run, I know a
really great radio show with almost six hundred stations that
you should probably announce it on. So I'm just just
trying to help, trying to be a helpful guy. So
if and when the day comes when you formally announce,
I think Clay and Buck would be a great place
for you to do it. But beyond that, if you
were to transition from what you have been doing in
the world of sports and speaking very candidly to the
(25:56):
people of Alabama about all things around that to the Senate,
the United States Senate, what are the issues that really
gets you the most energized. You spoke of being called
to this in part because of the feeling of urgency
to save this country in the aftermath of the Charlie
Kirk assassination. But on a policy level, what do you
(26:17):
want to do what would really matter to you as
a senator?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
The most important thing, Buck, I believe is what matters
most to every Alabamian or every person from Connecticut or Texas.
And that's how am I doing what is going on
in my life right now, And it starts with the
economy that ultimately drives people to the poult I'm particular
glad to see the White House understand that right now,
(26:42):
because well, foreign policy is essential and we can't have
a safe and secure nation without it. The pocketbook matters most.
And that's what I hear. And I realizing that I
do a talk show, not a political show, but everyday
people that come up to me, no matter where I am,
come to me and say, how are you going to
(27:03):
make my life better? So I think that has to
be the number one go and and clan book. One
more thing, if if I could divert for a second,
because I don't want to miss this moment. What what
what I have heard? I mentioned young people, and I'm
on a college campus every Friday and Saturday. They are
fed up with their future unless things change. But what's
(27:26):
really interesting if I'm not going to name them, but
I've had head football coaches reach out to me directly
and then directly through through from through text. I've had
college administrators, college presidents. And that is the scary part
because every time I think about not doing it, and
and that that happens too often when you're trying to
(27:48):
live in the moment of the season, I get. I
get encouragement and nourishment from so many of these people
and it is encouraging and refreshing. But but it also
goes to another issue. And this is not the most
important issue in the country. The economy is in our
national security, But the most important issue for where I
live every day for four hours is college athletics. And
(28:11):
you heard the president a reference that on McAfee and
let it was censored in your house, Clay and Buck,
but that we need more work there. And Tommy tumber
Will did a lot of good. But unfortunately, if some
of the predictions are true of where we are going
in another year, that may be gone forever.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
You got coaches asking you to run in college football,
you got athletic directors, presidents of schools. Imagine that has
been flattering. What is your time frame? I know the
primary I believe is in May. In Alabama, obviously there's
a campaign season, but as you also noted, the number
one story in Alabama right now is the Iron Bowl
(28:55):
in a couple of weeks. Have you put on your
calendar a date whereby you need to make a decision.
What is the process like for you as you go
through and decide whether or not you're going to run?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yeah, Clay, the two biggest issues here are the Iron
Bowl and whether to fry turkey on Thanksgiving. Uh, the
timetable is right as the season ends, and I, you know,
I'm under contract to ESPN, and I feel like I
have to get to the end of the season before
making a decision. And if it costs me getting in,
then I will find something, uh else to to to
(29:29):
let my mind wander on. But but but that that
is where it is, and it's not easy, and that's
my decisions, nobody else's. And I do want to thank
uh Burt Magnus at ESPN for allowing me uh this time.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
He's the He's he's the top person in my world.
And it was very A lot of people would have said, listen,
you you have to You're you're out. You're not going
to be able to talk about this at this the situation.
But but but he has been incredibly kind. The other
thing I'm just trying to deal with is it is
just my lane. And I shouldn't be saying this because
that's not what politicians are supposed to say. But I've
(30:07):
been under a microscope for forty years. I've said a
lot of things, as you and Buck have said. I've
built a national brand, and I dealt with people during
on air crisises. And you talk about an on air crisis, Clay,
try maybe sitting an audience on the night of January tenth,
two years ago when the note when the news bulletin
(30:28):
broke that Nick Saban was resigning and retiring. I mean that.
I mean that that took every ounce of patience to
because because that was a national nightmare for the state
of Alabama. But you also what also happens when you're
under that microscope and every single thing you have said
gets recorded and regurgitated, is you have to answer for
(30:51):
a lot of things. And that's really where I am
right now, because all the low level politicians and the
operatives are saying, well, you said this about the president,
and you once said this about Nick Saban. I've actually
been criticized Clay for this. Nick Saban came out in
twenty twenty and said that he did a public service
ad during COVID for masking and social distancing, and then
(31:16):
he marched with his players during a bom march. I
praised him, and you know why I praised and forget
the politics of it. Ed Oxeron did not do that.
He lost his team, his locker room, and ultimately got fired.
And those are the things that people are trying to
keep me out of the race for criticizing the president.
Once during a debate with Stephen A. Smith and praising
(31:38):
Nick Saban, I don't know if I can win on
the debate with Stephen A. Smith, but I'll take my shots.
I'm praising Nick Saban in the state of Alabama.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Do you think you would beat the people who are running? Like,
if you really got in there, you talk for a living,
you communicate for a living. I tend to think you'd
be pretty good at it. The President obviously came out
of the world of meet yet he's brought in a
lot of people Fox News and otherwise who have come
from the world of media, and they've done a great job.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Do you think you'd win?
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Yes, I do, And I've asked a number of people.
Because you don't want to get and raised and haven't
become a disaster, I think the better question is to you, Clay,
do you think I would win? Because you understand the
state of Alabama, You're beloved. I was at it. I
was in an event about three weeks ago. The most
prestigious group in the entire state. It's called the Monday
Morning Quarterback Club. They're bringing people from all over the country.
(32:31):
I was about to speak, and before I was introduced,
the head of the group got up in front of
the audience and said, we have a big announcement to
make our guest speaker in our year end banquet. And
I was like, going, Saban and he said it will
be Clay Travis and I going, oh my goodness, I
mean and there was an absolute cheer. So the reason
(32:51):
I turned the question back to you is you know
the state of Alabama.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, you would win in a landslide. But I told
Buck you would win in a landslide. Buck's right. When
you decide to run, you come on, you announce it
with us. We'll make that even more likely. Potentially next
Senator Paul fine bamb talking about the big Oklahoma loss
on his SEC Network show later today, Senator Finebaum potentially,
thanks for the time here and we'll talk to.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
You again soon.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Play Buck, thank you very bad.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Not you, that is Paul Feinebaum, and you guys can
react to that. I know all over Alabama a lot
of people listening to his show on a regular basis
not expecting necessarily to hear him on here. But I
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Welcome back in everybody you play and Buck coming up,
We have an Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, he'll talk
to us about the latest strike on those boats, those
Venezuelan Narco terrorists designated boats that our Department of Wars
blowing up. I think they've gotten to twenty of them
(34:49):
plus twenty plus now boats they've blown it. They're blown
up a bunch of boats. This has now become a
pretty consistent drum beat in the news cycle of these
boats are being blown up. It is a little surprising.
I think at some level Clay that, well, we'd have
to see the numbers. Is this actually reducing I would
(35:09):
think it would be harder to get people to be
drug runners if they were gonna get blown It's one
thing that if you're going to spend time in a
US federal prison, that's very unpleasant, but it's another thing
if you're actually going to be blown to smithereens out
in the open ocean. I agree with you one hundred percent.
I think it's the message of deterrence that's being sent
because a lot of these guys, it's one thing to
(35:32):
take the risk of you might get arrested. You're making
generational money for your families back home. It's another thing
to think you have no knowledge. One moment you're fine,
in the next moment you're blown up. I think that
those videos are certainly circulating widely now. They may be
making so much money that they'll take the risk no
matter what. But I would think it has to give
(35:52):
pause to some people out there who are thinking about
jumping on. So far eighty two Narco terrorists killed in
these latest operations.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
We'll talk about that with Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma.
Will also take some of your calls open phone line
eight hundred and two A two two eight A two,
because I think we're gonna continue to discuss uh the
Trump assassin revelations that have emerged, because frankly, I found
them to be stunning based on what we had been
told before. Now we'll take some of your calls. Some
(36:23):
of you may want to weigh in on the idea
of Senator Paul Finbaum. You just heard him very well
known in the world of sports, and.
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