Dale Earnhardt Jr. Is A CFB25 SICKO + March Madness vs March MATness

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Busting with the boss, hanging with the fans.

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Betting on the game. No woman's gonna tell us what
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Just drinking beer and making n baby.

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I'm hanging with the fellows.

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Speaker 3 (02:00):
Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to another episode of Busts with
the Boys. This is episode three hundred and twenty one.
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Well America, now, let's talk about this this weekend. We

(02:21):
had ourselves a couple of streams Thursday, we kicked it off. Yeah,
seemed like the boys for the most part, stayed around
fifty percent, maybe.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
A little more.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
I think a couple of units were made here and there.
Then we get to Friday. Now, I'm just gonna say
this real quick had an amazing time. But Friday, first
three bets.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
What we do? We bank? We were bank bank riding high.
Confidence goes up way too high. Union goes up a
little bit more because like today's the day to day is.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
A day we found we finally found a little crack
in the armor of Las Vegas, Nevada. Ye turns out
Vegas is never wrong, and the boys went plummeting down
to We had.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
A rough go. We started second guessing ourselves a little bit.
We started talking about bets a little too much. However,
I will say the the best part of March Madness
for myself is that over two and a half in
the first minute when we learn those quick bets. Because again,
it's fun betting spreads, it's fun fun betting totals and
points and everything else, but you have to wait for

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the game to kind of unfold, but to get your
juices going. When all of us were riding on the
over two and a half points in the first minute.
Somebody on Friday found the first four minutes over twelve
and a half points in the first four minutes, both
teams to score a goal in the first minute or
first two goal, race to five, race to ten, to fifteen,
all the way up to seventy. Those are the ones

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that were getting me fired up. And you mentioned on
Thursday we started off the Dog of the Day promo
that vandal has. We got to share in the one
million dollar jackpot because McNeese was the lowest seed to
win on Thursday, lost on Friday with on Friday, was
lost on Saturday with me easy again, tried stick of
staying with mcneesy, but tough. I was, Yeah, I was

(04:05):
fired up when the Dog of the Day hit, When
their promo's going on and their Dog of the Day hit,
I was, I was fired up. We have a baseball
one coming up which will tell you about Yeah, but
we'll continue to talk about our fund that we had
on the street.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
I will say this is like I said, this is
my first time really diving into March madness, so I
didn't really know how to go, Like do you start
firing bets right away?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Am I keeping my unit up? Where it usually is.
And I was telling you, Will pulled me to.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
The side and he was, listen, you want to go
smaller units because it's a long burn. This is a marathon.
You're gonna have to deal with here. So when we
started hitting that two and a half in the first minute,
the five, ten, fifteens, yeah, the first half total points,
all those things, Like you're keeping small units, but it's
like you're interested in enjoying the entire time because it's
not about how much you win, it's about the vibes

(04:48):
of the boys. Yeah, the vibes.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
You want to keep the units low again, responsibly low, responsiblity.
You know how many how many you're just thrown out there,
Like there are moments where it's like I don't even
know what what's next on the on the dock, and
I don't even know it's next on the bet slip.
But fortunately, when you keep your unit slow, because you're
throwing out so many different bets, you're able to kind
of stay in the game.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
I set a personal record for myself on Thursday. I
had over seventy bets according to my fan sports.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Like that that's just that's just nothing. You jump on
it and just reminds you how long you've been on
the app and how many betses.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, that it gives you that little reality check. It's
just it's just kind of fun.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Now.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Friday, I start bumping the bets up a little bit
because we had that three we talked about. It started
hitting so fast. Caught myself in a little bit of
a spiral. It was going down. I was going down
the drain a little bit.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
All good, All good. But that's the that's the is
the reason why you keep the right because when you're
when you're losing your bets, you get you start to
want to chase what you've lost. That's why you got
to keep them low. So you're just not in a
full blender throughout the entire weekend.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
My brain can't sit there and just like be like, Okay,
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Speaker 3 (07:18):
I listen, I haven't dove into baseball in a minute.
I told you guys about what I went to the
the World Series, you know, the first game of the
World Series, and I left early when all the action
really start taking place. Like that's that's I don't know
a whole lot about baseball, but this the opportunity to
bet on Homer's Every time that guy steps into the
batter's box, does his fun little superstitious does the cross

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a couple of wives here and there, moves his hat
a couple of times and swings.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
You need that, Yeah, you need that. Yeah, dude, I
wish you. I wish we were back in the Big
Mac days, Saint Louis Cardinals. You got Big Maclamb because
of Mark McGuire. He was just hitting dingers every day,
but betting on a home run in landing in Big
Mac Land, everybody in the section gets a free Big
Mac and the Cardinals and not to just go off

(08:05):
course and just talk about the Saint Louis Cardinals, But
when they're in the playoffs, big Max were a dollar
and your boy would house like three big MAXs, no doubt, bro,
Me and Logan, Me and Logan. I know Logan always
makes his way onto this boy always makes his way
on the show. But we just ripped down to McDonald's.
Cardinals would go on like they'd have like seven game series,

(08:26):
like it was all time. So I'm fired up about this.
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use it? And then if that guy Homers, everybody splits
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Speaker 3 (08:36):
Everybody who bet on that guy to Homer in that
game will divvy up five hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
I gotta I gotta find the I gotta find the guys.
What's his name, Aaron Judge. That's a big bastard. You
might hate. You might have to battle on him going.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Aaron Judge had a tough playoffs this past year. He's
Colley was coming off. He's a little slow, a little sluggish.
But I only know that because I started following the
Dodgers after I had that big fumble of going to
that game.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Maybe Otani know he's a very popular show. Yeah yeah, yeah,
oh no, ship what a legend.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
I love fun names, fun names like Mookie Betts and
baseball too.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
I feel like a lot of like their offspring has
made their way into this next generation. I feel like
baseball more than any other sport you see, like Tatis,
who else, King Griff, that guy and Holiday. I know
there's more. My brains just yeah, my brain's just not

(09:35):
fiery right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
I mean hockey is the same way. I feel like
that's just a sign of us getting older.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Like with the people we.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Used to watch, they had kids when we were watching them,
and now they're becoming their kids are becoming professional athletes
as well. Yeah, generational talents and yeah, generational.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Have you got go ahead? Jack?

Speaker 6 (09:56):
I was talking about the over two and a half
points one of my friends after right when we finished streaming,
and one of his buddies, who's a big gambler, said,
for baseball season, outside of this coin that you're gonna do,
we might have found a new baseball over two and
a half bet. But it's apparently you bet the under
on runs in the first inning because they got these
guys coming out you know, they're starting pitchers throwing gas.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Just it doesn't away from me to get tired.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
Yeah, but apparently that's this is one of those bets
that we can maybe play into as well. So just
like betting the under on runners in the first inning,
we go, Maybe we'll test the waters later this week
once Opening Days starts.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Is that Thursday? I beliek? So yeah, this week, this
wee week, this week? Yeah, yeah, any day this week.
If you guys check the bracket challenge, yeah, yeah. Do
you know who's in first place? Are you? It's Taylor? Oh? No,
ship in first place. Hey, let's go. Let's get a

(10:55):
right aplass with that. Huh you uh? Your bracket right now?
I think I think it's like two losses. It's like
ninety nine point nine percentile in the in the world.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Are you serious?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Your Your bracket is ranked in the top three thousand
people right now in the world, America, the world. Let's go.
I opened it up in my because I knew I
was in second last week, like after the first or
second day, and I was fired up. But I just
I jumped on again this morning, and I just see
Taylor sitting at the top and I'm like this mother,
something about fantasy. Man, I something about fantasy. I just

(11:26):
get it done. Dude.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Well, my bracket's about unless Michigan shows up in a
big way. Because when I was doing my bracket, I
kind of obviously was guessing and texted a couple of guys.
But when I got to Michigan in this part, I
have them beating Auburn, and then in the lead eight,
I was like, okay, this is probably where Michigan goes.
I know, sure them kind of gave me the whole
No one will be surprised if Michigan makes it to
the sweet sixteen. So say, okay, we'll get him to
Sweet sixteen and then I'll you know, try to take

(11:49):
the bracket as serious as possible. But then the way
my bracket worked out is Michigan in the lead eight
plays Michigan State, and so my ego won't allow Michigan
to lose in Michigan State, even though I think they
beat every time this year. Brow Michigan's in the final
four in my bracket, and Michigan makes in the final
four in real life, we're living and also I know

(12:10):
we've obviously we're just gashing up FanDuel, but that futures parlay.
I put Michigan in the Sweet sixteen and Arizona in
the Sweet sixteen.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
That's hit.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
And all I need is Florida in the Elite eight
and I need Houston the Elite eight, and if those
two hit, I'll hit that parlay.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
My futures parlay got shipped on when Saint John's lost. Really,
I was bum when they lost. Y'all are St John's
and me, Yeah, I hate that.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
I did a little ghost bet last night with New
Mexico and Michigan State. I wanted New Mexico first to five,
first to ten, first to fifteen. I soloed doze and
then I parlayed it as well, and that hit and
that was like plus three hundred odds or something like that.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Apparently New Mexico was in it the whole entire game.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
I came in, I was like, Hey, what happened with
Michigan Michigan State or Michigan State in New Mexico and
the boy so like, yeah, the Mexico was up at
half or right around up at half.

Speaker 7 (13:03):
Yeah, we had I found a bet for Saturday, every
team to score over sixty points.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Bro Mitch dropped that in the crew check.

Speaker 7 (13:12):
Plus fu plus one thousand hit, so plus one thousand.
I think. I was like, Oh, this is everybody's gonna
the biggest worries McNee State to just shot sixty points
against whoever they were playing. Yeah, the final game of
the day, it's Tennessee versus UCLA. Ucla has that's why
y'all were texting about fifty eight points. They had four

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free throws and like with like at fifty six points,
they went one for two on both free throw attempts
and finished with fifty eight.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I was so dog I went to bed just being like, Yo,
Mitch delivered a winner to the boys plus one thousand.
Every team on that day to score over sixty and
every team was hitting bro And I was looking at
Ucla Tennessee, I think around halftime, and I'm like, they're
on pace, like this one's gonna hit, Like these are
two quality teams that are gonna you know again, he
was talking about McNee State like that's kind of the

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only one you were worried about. And I woke up
the next morning and saw that the bet didn't hit,
So I opened up. You know, I'm like scrolling through
and I see U c l A has had fifty
eight points. No, it was nuts, man, it was nuts.
But Mitch, that was gonna be a big time winner
for the group chat of the boys, just throwing that

(14:24):
one in there, and that was operating though with the
with the drop links in.

Speaker 7 (14:29):
And then I did it again yesterday. It was only
plus two thirty. This time I said it to you, guys,
are like, look at the look at the odds. Now,
it's only plus two thirty. I put ten dollars on
it and it hit, but it's not as big as
like obviously you have.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Plus one thousand every team hitting over sixty. And right
now in our bracket challenge too, we have three of
us tied for second place. JP, I saw you sitting
at the bottom. Man, I got a problem, dude.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Every single March Madness, I do this where I like,
I just get so enthralled with the with the upsets.
I'm like, man, this is gonna be the year, and
I have to be the guy that called it. And
now I'm never the guy that calls it. And I've
ended up lasting like all of my brackets, and I
saw this year only one underdog one in like the
first two rounds, which does not go well for me.

(15:20):
And yeah, so from now on, I think I'm just
gonna hit auto, pick the highest seeds and let it,
let it go.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
You Know what I've noticed with these brackets and just
betting in general, is like the more you look into bets,
the more times you're wrong. I feel like, as like
an intuition thing, like you just gonna be like, okay this, okay,
yeah when you start looking at yeah, you look at
the data, but then the we get in the fall.
I mean, at least it was for me this year
in the locker room. I started looking into all these
different things, the weather, all this, and and then your

(15:50):
brain just gets confused. Maybe it's just my brain because yeah,
paralys by analysis. But no, but it's not paralyss because
I'm making the bets.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
I'm just losing. Yeah, but you're you're looking so much
into it, you're paralyzing yourself. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
I got to fly by that seat in my pants
on these things because with this bracket, I really had
no idea what I was doing.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, first time up until Saturday and Sunday hit like
the first two like Thursday and Friday, they were pretty boring.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yeah, yeah, I saw a couple of tweets of people
were saying it was like the worst first round.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah of march Man, I don't think there was any
like comebacks in this first couple of days. Yeah, was
like when people got separated.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
The one. I mean watching Michigan as tightly as I
did the first game versus UC San Diego. They were
up by like thirteen, and I think they were down
in the second half.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
At one point, end up coming back and winning.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
And then Michigan was down against uh who was it
A and m down by like ten points, came back
and won that.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, that one was close, no doubt. Saint John's was close.
I remember I was watching the ending of that one,
just hoping they were gonna get back in, and.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
He saw coach cal Party's quote. He was like, they
had us in the coffin, they just forgot the nails. Yeah,
it's like cal Patino all time.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I know. I love that old that storyline. And then
one of them I forget which coach, but their daughters
fired up like right next to him the whole game,
and they were just within that three four points and
just could not close it even when they had a
chance at it. They just weren't able to close this
the distance.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
But Friday for us wasn't all bad. Like you get
yourself a nice little present from Clay Matthews.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, yeah, Clay, he delivered. He delivered an incredible photo
and can we get we can throw it up here.
But just getting trucked by rub Kowski. And I remember
that play too, like you.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Just see I'm pretty sure you've talked about that play
multiple times.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Just seeing him in the a gap, knowing it's just
me and him, he just low man wins and he
bulldozed me. However, he did fall down and I got
the tackle and I was in his ear and I
did let him know like, hey, that does go down
as a tackle, but nice hit.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Now, when you're in that situation and you know it's
just you and him and this is a big cat
that's probably gonna try to run you over, you thinking, hey,
just get him down, oh run over in that situation.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
No, no, I gotta get him to the ground, because
even before it was happening, I was like, fuck, this
dude's about to give it to me. And just you know,
you're trying to get as low as possible and try
to so.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
You know, you've lost a battle because when you see
it coming, you're like, this is about to hurt really bad.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
And they were an eleven personnel and he's just a
solo back back there. And you see the pooler and
you go with the polar and you're just thinking, like
in there hand and this boy the ball, and this
big boy the ball. Right now it's just you and him. Yeah,
and a couple of blades of grass.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
The boys give you hell on that or you'll work
through that, all right.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
No, catch a little he but yeah I got him
on the ground, right, I mean, think him out of
game two yards but he's on the ground.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
You look at a couple of you wouldn't have got him down. Yeah,
he would have ran your ass over and got six more.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, but I love that he wrote me a little note.
Clay delivered cloth gift. Shut up roup Kowski. He was
a stud. Yeah, yeah, Clay Matthews Delaney came through. We
were just we were just in it watching games. Your
soul kind of gets sucked out of you when you're
just sitting there watching games all day, right, Because when

(19:00):
I got out of him, were home over the weekend,
like your boy, you know me, I was jumping into
the madness march madteness. I did see you tweeting about it.
Shout out of Nebraska, dude, shout out Nebraska. It's been
their best performance in the NC Double A Tournament in
the history of the of the program. They had three
guys in the finals. Brock Hardy he lost and surprising too,

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but Jesse Mendez, he was a beast from Ohio State.
He was the defending national champion, but Hardy had beat
him in the big tens, and Hardy started off strong.
He was up on him five to one, debatably six
to one. They kind of went to the They kind
of went to the review to see if he got
like an extra point in a near faull because he
put him on his back after he took him down.
So he's up five to one. Jesse Mendez comes back
and beats him, so that one stuck, sucked, and that's

(19:43):
what started it. But then Taylor and love It they
both won theirs and it was it was all time.
Like Nebraska got second at the tournament. Coach Manning got
Coach of the Year for the n C Double A's.
But it was fun. Bro did you see uh, did
you see that heavyweight upset.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
When I was with you is when I saw wrestling,
when you forced us to take one of the TV's
and turn on the wrestling. Is the amount of wrestling
I watched this weekend.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Bro, Who is it White Hendricksons? Yeah, Gable Stevenson, White Hendrickson.
So this is the heavyweight bro. When I was young,
we went to the NCAA's when it was in Saint Louis.
I got to see brock Lesnar when he was a
heavyweight wrestle against the cat from brock Lesnar. Was that Minnesota?
This cat was at Iowa and brock Lesnar wins like
four to two. It might have been an overtime too,

(20:29):
but you just see it. That's brocol Bro and he's
just back there doing his like brock Lesnar jump. And
I just remember as a kid and I was like
up in the nosebleeds too, like yo, this dude is
a badass. But the heavyweight matchup this year is Gable
Stevenson versus White Hendrickson. Gable Stevenson. Just for some background
Olympic gold medalists? Is he a two time I thought Panamara?

(20:49):
Is that the same thing?

Speaker 7 (20:51):
I thought?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
He's been a gold medals, like he's won the Worlds.
He's like a four time world champion based on age.
He's been winning world since he was like sixteen or
seventeen years old and was like a five time All Americans.
He's the best. He is the best. He hasn't given
up a takedown since twenty twenty. Giving up a takedown.
You know, when they take him down, they wrestle, they
take him to the ground, ress like three two whatever. Yeah,

(21:14):
he hasn't given up a takedown since twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Okay, he's just giving up what he has him on.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
A takedown they like when they're neutral, they're both on
their feet. He has not lost or given up a
takedown since twenty twenty. He hasn't lost since what twenty nineteen.
He goes on like he's won the gold medal. He's older,
so he kind of came down. He's like a twenty
four year old wrestling in the championships. But he tried
the WWE. He didn't get int the WW. I think
it lasted like one match and they kind of like, hey,

(21:39):
this isn't working out. He tried, like I forget the
cat that played for the New England Patriots. But a
wrestler that went to the New England Patriots and played
and had a little bit of a career transition from
wrestler to football player. Gable tried that with the Buffalo Bills,
didn't make the squad in training camp. I think that
was last year. But anyway, he goes back to school
and again the best wrestler in the world, and this dude,

(22:01):
White Hendrickson beats him in the last seconds and the
place was pandemonium, bro because again, this is the best
cat in the world. Like, no one's thinking that White
Hendrickson's gonna upset him. And I think, two, what no
in White Hendrickson. He's like a second lieutenant.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Air Force is what he transferred from Air Force to
Okay State. And I also think he's twenty four too.
So people were trying to get on Gable. Stevenson, you
go lose to this college kid, YadA YadA, YadA.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, these are grown ass men, dude. And obviously you
have the COVID years, so people are probably getting their
extra years because when when does COVID Year's end.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
I think it might be this year. This is like
last year because there was one cat I think it
was Sarachi from Penn State. He's a five time national champion,
the only five time national champion of all time. But yeah,
White Hendrickson, he stands up, he wins, he goes and
salutes Donald Trump. But the place was electric because nobody
that was That was one of the biggest upsets of
not the biggest upset in wrestling history, and in the

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heavyweight division. Like it was just it was bro. It
was awesome. It was awesome to watch.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
But it was so interesting that you talking about your
relationship with wrestling, Like you go back and you watch
this and you're like, all about it. You dove into
all the information. This guy transfertion, may are forced to,
okay state, this guy went to the ww.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
All these things.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
But then when I talk about you as an individual wrestling,
you're like, it always starts with I fucking hated it.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
I did hate wrestling. Yeah is it really?

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Oh yeah, bro, practice is harder or losing, because I've
always heard like cutting weight is the hardest part of
the worst part of the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Cutting weight sucks. Practice sucks, Like these dudes are.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Just why is practice stuff? You just keep going You're.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Just drilling for two hours at a time. You're drilling.
The workouts are crazy. The coaches are psycho pass. Like
one time, like because uh little bro Cody wrestling at Nebraska.
Like one of their workouts one day was they had
a forty five pound plate and the coaches just drive
them like a few miles off campus. They drop them off.
They have a forty five pound plate and they're like
get back to campus. And these dudes are just grinding

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all day long. They're just embracing this. You're living at
this height for months out of the year. Yeah, because
you're just you're just low. You're just you're wrestling. You're
wrestling every day there all the time.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
It's amazing how wrestlers understand the jav did you wrestle.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Well? Like how do you know about this? Like you
talking like you did it well?

Speaker 1 (24:16):
So our high school, I know. It sounds crazy. Being
in the Southeast, it's like one of the best wrestling
programs in like the country. They've broken records for most
state championships, most regional championships, and it's like similar stories
where in high school the coach took them to like
this arcade place. It was like, hey, guys like no
practice whatever, whatever, and then he leaves and they're like, wait,

(24:39):
how do we get back. He's like, you run back,
made him run back and so. And I didn't even
wrestle this guy. He could. He like, you know, taught
science or something. And he had on a state championship
ring and I wasn't listening one time and he turned
it around and he asked me a question and I
didn't answer it, and he was just like like slaps
me on the back of the head with the ring
turned inside. He's like, you gotta you gotta do better.

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I'm like, I don't even like you just slap me
in my head with his ring.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Shit.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
So how he treated the actual wrestlers, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, I just respect the sport. I respect the culture
of it. I respect like what goes into it. So
when I see these guys win in they're celebrating with
their families, like just knowing having the close up lens
that I had with wrestling because Cody was so good
at it, and I did it up to sixth grade.
Quit had to do it again in my junior year
because my parents forced me to, Like, I just know
the culture so well and I know like what goes

(25:31):
into it. So it's just fun to see because it's
like any movie, any boxer, MMA fighter, any behind the
scenes stuff that you see with these guys, like these
wrestlers like eat, breeze, sleep, die for wrestling, and you
always know, like throughout the entire year, you know like
where you're ranked in state, you know where you're ranked
in the nation, and you just know every duel you

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go to, like who's who in the zoo any tournament,
Like growing up, it'd be like the Triple Crown winner.
Cody won the Triple Crown one year, where it's like
Cliff Keene Tulsa, I think Reno or something like that.
But you go to these massive tournaments that are national
tournaments because you Cody won. You wrestle around the state
and you go to all these tournaments you kind of
like ranked in the state. But when you go to
these national tournaments and there's so many people there, like

(26:12):
the wrestling parents, the families, everybody is there, and yeah,
then you you're like you're like, hey, Cody's got to
wrestle somebody from Pennsylvania. Will's got to you know, I'm
wrestling somebody from Minnesota. You're wrestling all around the country,
and so I just know the culture of it, and
so I just respected so much that when I see
it on and I see how much I followed Cody
and watching Nebraska wrestling in Jordan Burrows, he went to Nebraska.

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He's like the considered the goat of wrestling, one of
the goats of wrestling. So I've just always followed it.
I've always loved it. Like I know, my dad's always
tuned in. So when we were on the phone Saturday,
we're kind of chopping it up about you know, who's
going to be in the finals to night, Cody's fired
up because he's like, Yo, this is the best Nebraska's
ever performed in the tournament. So it just it like
fires me up. That's Cody. Love watching it. Oh, Cody

(26:55):
was a monster. Cody was a senior national champion coming
out of high school, so senior nationals.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
So Nebraska was like, oh, we got ourself as a dog,
Like we're probably gonna win a national championship with this kid.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, I mean, those are the types of caliber guys
that are going to wrestle there. And it was like,
you know, when we get recruited, we drove to Missou,
Iowa Nebraska in one week, and Cody and I are
both getting recruited at each spot because he was a
dog at wrestling, like he wrestled for Team Missouri. Pennsylvania
was always really nice New Jersey, Iowa.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah, what is like the number one Nember one state?

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Probably the Northeast. I mean you got you have Iowa, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
I was gonna say, like Iowa or Minnesota. I think
like Minnesota has always got like.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Southern Minnesota's got a lot like the Yeah, the North,
the Northeast, like those are the dogs of wrestling, like
Penn State. Even though Nebraska and Oklahoma State performed really
well in this tournament, like the upside of White Hendrickson,
they had some guys kind of us upset some dudes
in the finals, but Penn State is like far and above,
Like their head coach is Kale Sanderson, which is one
of the most accomplished wrestlers of all time, and he

(27:52):
just has this program that they just breed a college
wrestling team winning year in and year out. Like everybody
talking about Oklahoma State and Nebraska how well they did,
but they weren't even close to getting the national championship
because Penn State just wins like every year.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
What so you know, like like with footballer's like oh, height, strength, whatever,
like the the attributes that guys have to be a
good football player. Like what what are good attributes for
a wrestler? Like a psychotic? You gotta be a psycho?

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, I mean your mentality, it starts there. But dude's mobility, flexibility,
their strength, Like these guys can deadlift like over five
six hundred pounds and weigh you know, they're they're weighing
around like one to sixty one seventy.

Speaker 7 (28:30):
They're they're doing. Like there's a guy I think a
year or two ago won the national championship on two
torn acls.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Like that was Spencer Lee. He's been on the bus.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
Yeah, the psychopath type.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
He's been on the bus. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (28:44):
Like those those are the kind of that's what makes
good wrestlers is people that do not have any regard
for their body like like oh, it's just it's just
my knee. It's fine, I'll get a fixed later.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
And they're just skill their skill set, like the way
that they're able to change levels. Like if you were
to watch like Jesse Mendez as the guy who beat
Hardy for Nebraska. He wrestles for Aha State. Their ability
to like change levels and like mess with your head
and the next thing you know, they're on your ankle.
Like their riding ability. It's like, you know, when you're
on top, it's and you're asking, why doesn't the guy
just stand up if he wants to get out. It's
like some of these guys are incredible, just controlling the hips,

(29:17):
throwing in legs, like wrestling on top. It's it's a
crazy sport, bro. It's like, what's the dude's name from
Arizona State who had the one leg? Yeah, well that
was a while ago.

Speaker 7 (29:28):
Yeah, I forget his name, but he's kind he has
a movie coming out about him.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, yeah, he's got a movie coming out about him.
But it's like, you don't even need both legs to
be great.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
What's crazy is yeah, what's crazy is I heard this
is just people this guy's cheating.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, Anthony Robles. Yeah, you're saying, well.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
People were getting pissed because because he was missing a leg,
that's obviously so much weight taking off. So yeah, and
so he would be he should be in a higher way.
So people were getting pissed off at this guy was winning.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, because he's so fucking strong, Like that's crazy. By
the way, his balance too. Cody could just clean, he
could clean and deadlift more than me, like throughout my
college career. No, yeah, like these these dudes are cockstrong
with their grip.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, Cody seems like he had that mentality big time
cost strong.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
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We had six hundred k. That'll be massive. That would
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They were incredible. We have an entire box.

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Speaker 2 (31:33):
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Speaker 3 (31:38):
These things are, by the way, like we did ourselves
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great job on that, by the way. Delicious stuff, delicious.
It's just the smell in this room already, I know
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Speaker 2 (31:53):
A little they dropped off a little bow box for
the boy. Ooh more, we got more. Let's get a
little nat geo on everybody. Let's zoom in on Mitch
and let's see how big of a bite he can
take down. Yeah, that's kind of my favorite part.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Mitch mentioned last time I saw you kind of half
cocked it. I want you full cocked on this one.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Go to do a bigger bite as possible, take a
little off and do a double bite to see how
much more you can get in that one, one massive
bike in the same breath, though, it can't leave your.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Mouth all right, there's one.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Oh yeah, Yeah, that's a good bite. That's a good bite,
and there's still so much left.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
You seem like inches way down the stand, Mitch, I
feel like you could have a wrestler's brain. You don't
have that. You don't have that dog mentality like that.
He's saying, that's right.

Speaker 7 (32:58):
I got beat by a girl.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
You got that right, bro, There are some badass women
in the sport.

Speaker 7 (33:04):
She was on my team. She beat me, and I
went home and cried.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
You went home and cried, said mom and dad, I'm
not built for this. I'm not bil for it. Sounds
like very few humans in the world are built for this.
Oh what a catch by Jack. And you know these
boys are different like you. We talked about it before
the college parties with wrestlers. It's just a bunch of
dudes shoulder to shoulder. Hey, nobody carry all their beer

(33:28):
games shirts off.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Bandana's on and Dana's on the top of the head,
and then it always ends up in the yard, always
ends up in the.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Cheers brother, cheers man, Thank you bo Jangles. I got out.
Then what do we have coming up?

Speaker 3 (33:43):
I mean for us, let's do a shout out, no
free shout out while the boys are enjoying their bow
berry waffle.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Uh what they called shout out bau free shout out
chicken and bow berry waffle. Shout out beau free shout
like that one JP, JP, That's what I'm talking about. Uh,
I'm gonna throw it back some nostalgia pack my shout out,
no free shout out, My shout out both free. Shout

(34:08):
out goes to when you were a young pup and
you're just laying in your room and a fans on
on the ceiling and you're able to grab that one
blade and track it all the way around, and you
lose it, and you keep trying to find that one blade.
But when you connect and you find that one blade,
it's you fork that might be.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Dude that that had me in such a blender As
a kid like, I was so obsessed with finding the
one blade when it was off. One time I took
a marker and I put a green line on one
of the blades, so when I would lay, when I
would lay in my bed, I try to find the
green line.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
I love how you did a marker and not just
like a piece of tape. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah, I was just rooting the house. Knowing what I
know now about homes, I would have never have done it.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
And then when your brain can't keep up with one,
you just think to yourself, maybe there's a level to
where the human mind just can't and maybe out there
I got slow it down a little bit and start
tracking it. You think to yourself, I wonder if everybody
else can do this, or am I the one guy
who can track the blade going around?

Speaker 3 (35:07):
I love that shout out in a free shadowt I
will also do a nostalgic one. And it came to
me on Friday. Shout shout out bufree, shout out bo
shout out, bau free shout out. I'm sitting outside. I
set the entire campsite for the kids in the backyard
this weekend.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Try to do it.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Last weekend there was a big storm that took place
and ended up we had to pack it all in
and go back in the house. Still wasn't a bad deal.
But this week we were able to go outside, get
the campsite going and everything like that, and I had
a little fire pit. Watching my children, like Neanderthals discover
fire is one of the most fun things to watch
because it takes you back as a kid when they

(35:42):
see the fire. It mesmerizes everybody, even as an adult.
You sit there and stare at the fire, the dancing,
the smoke coming up, it comes into your face. You say,
white rabbit, White rabbit, white rabbit, and then it goes
away and you think, Yo, how the fuck does that
work like that?

Speaker 2 (35:55):
It's just magic.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
But my kids would grab sticks and they would put
the stick in the fire and then pull it out,
and to see the transfer from fire to the stick
blew their minds to the point where like it was
like an hour and a half of them just getting sticks,
catching off fire, blowing it out, doing fun designs and
putting it back. So shout out, Beaufree, Shout out to

(36:18):
the discovery of Fire Here you Go.

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Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah, bus shut Out Burt Kreischer and it's special Lucky
Out on Netflix.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
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was going, Yeah, it's doing well, it's doing well. I
love that.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
I love I love that Burt gets so much love
because every time Burt's on the show, there's always in
nasty comments, people being crazy about Burt. But people, he
still pushes numbers, he still does his thing.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
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Speaker 3 (37:38):
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Speaker 2 (37:43):
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Speaker 2 (38:03):
That weather's gonna break sooner than you think. Have you
guys been leveling up your life since the Ashton The
Ashton Hall video has been going viral.

Speaker 6 (38:12):
Yeah, apparently that guy got evicted. I just saw on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
What everybody's praying on a downfall.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
He got evicted from his apartment and apparently he's five
to five.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
So I'm not hating.

Speaker 8 (38:25):
I'm just.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
Facts I saw on Twitter, and no, I mean that guy,
he's teaching us all life lessons. But that's just what
I'm seeing on Twitter, and I hope it's not true.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
The most incredible thing to me about that guy is
when I watched his video. He gets to the pool
and he goes to dive in the pool at seven
thirty six, there's not a splash until seven forty. The
ability to stay in the air for four minutes is incredible,
absolutely incredible. This guy is different, man, He is different.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Schumer's telling me, shum, you think it's satire.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
If he is sat it's some of the best satire
I've ever seen. But sadly, I'm not sure it's satire.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
I think I think he's for real. I think he's
for real. I think now that it's going so viral,
I'm sure there'll be some satire with it.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
So I don't know. Because the one that set me
off was his basketball one, when he's putting up shots
and the guy's just standing there in the suit, hands
him that classic blue water bottle, and then at the
very end of the video he goes and hands him
a big slice of watermelon, and then it cuts. I'm like, okay,
I think this guy watermelon's insane, So I'm like, okay,

(39:33):
this guy he's he's strolling us.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
He might I think he's been doing it for a
while and now it's y'all started to catch fire, so
he's probably.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
I think it's gonna be there's on pace to be
the most viewed video on.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Bro when I'm real, Yeah, on Saturday or yesterday when
I was looking, I saw it at like five hundred
million views on X five hundred million.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
And then he's they're like dropping all these other videos
of people doing it. They're like the spawns are popping
up everywhere, and those other people are more serious, like
Christian McCaffrey. His that guy was like being dead serious.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
I think, oh yeah, yeah, I think some of these
guys are dead ass serious.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
I'm gonna release one.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
It's good to see Christian McCaffrey buy in though. It's
good to see him buy into trend like that.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Did you see that guy the one that Garrett, the
dude that originally went famous for it last year drew
He kind of stepped back up into the spotlight. He
was like, hang on, yeh, he made a trader Joe's run.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Well, you know how, he probably seeing it pop off
so much, so much bigger than the one that he had.
He's like, I got to get back in this thing.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Like he was like, I'm just trying to remain humble.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
No, that's another guy. That's yeah, it's over. Goal is
to get invited to that linko jip. You got one
dropping tomorrow. Yeah, I got one dropping tomorrow. I wrote
out to my stuff today. I might do this every day,
but you know, it's good to have it written.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yeah, you have the structure in place now, something to
show the war to do something so much.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
You don't need to have a written down, but it's
good to have a written down of this situation.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
I might have to. I was thinking about one for
trash Day as well. Yeah. Yeah, your face, I will
say it felt like my skin was a little softer
after I did do it.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Apparently back in the day, where you put a banana
pilll on your teeth's supposed to whiten your teeth.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
I was seeing, h I was seeing on the internet.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
You take you put it on there? No, no, yeah,
you actually have to try to ingest the entire banana.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Like apparently biscuits they got some nutrients that help like
cleanse your skin, and it's apparently the big thing to
keep to keep zits off your face. Apparently you're saying.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Allegedly very many black people with acne.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
That is a very good point.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Black don't crackde.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Black guys really do have the best skin tone. They
and they were the only ones that were focused in
the locker room on their their skin routine.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
I mean you see him after they were doing all
the SuDS everything. White guys going there getting the cold
tub and be like that counts.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, you start the question, am going to shower? And
then by the end of the year, like all my
hair is like getting honestly kind of chemically burnt off of.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
My legs got split ends on his split then you see, uh.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
I'd see Rashaan Evans, he'd have a jar of like
coconut oil and he'd just be putting that la justlather
or not.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Delaney Delaney was always a cat. After he got out
of the sauna, he'd have like these gloves he put
on his hands to bathe himself with his own like soap.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
I learned about the gloves too.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
The gloves are crazy.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Last three years, I was like, you've got that gloves
in the shower?

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah? Wild, Maybe out there and you just you know,
you just stared. Delanny. There, here we go the thing,
the AI overview. Yes, banana peels can offer some potential
benefits for skin, including acting as a natural exfoliant, soothing irritation,
and potentially reducing the appearance the appearance of wrinkles in
dark circles.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
We got to get it to ten thousand.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
That was my favorite plans.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Man, If he can buy stock and bananas right now,
it's about to go up.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
I will say that, ash Cat. I mean, these these
folks out there are specimens, specimens.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
His huddle is suddle dropped.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Bummed me out a little bit. Is he actually five
to five? That's just what I'm seeing on Twitter?

Speaker 6 (43:05):
You know how twitter can belayed college.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Al Corn State.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
I think imagine him, Imagine him coming down the middle
in an a gap, wide open break. You get him down. Yeah,
if anything, if you prove it history, you'd get him.
That'd be a tackle. But breaking him, I don't know
about that. I do not know about that.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
What else do we got? Boh, it's time for me
to want to talk about it. Let's see what else
is on here. Jameis Winston to the New York Giants.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Yep, I'm two years eight million if at eighteen, I'm
kind of bummed a by the Giants.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
For his sake, Yeah, for his sake. I don't like
him going to New York. I'd rather go to like
a potential.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Winner, neighbors, Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, neighbors. But bro, New York is not. You got Washington,
you got the Eagles. I mean, Dallas will be probably
competing with a little bit, But New York's gonna suck
this shit.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Washington their backups, Marcus, the Eagles. Who's the Eagles back up?

Speaker 1 (43:59):
It was, Yeah, they let it go.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
If you're Jamis Winston, you want to go to a
place that has some question marks at quarterbacks so you
have the opportunity to play.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, but the Giants, I get you there. He just
he just did that with the Browns. Yeah, and he
did well ish I mean yeah, but they sucked.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Still, if he can get on the field and play,
I guess if you can get on the field and play,
keep the dream alive.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Epic snow game against the Steelers, Aaron Rodgers went to
Pittsburgh and left without a contract. That that standard that
sounds about right. Yeah, I think I think at.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
This point with Minnesota saying, hey, we're all good on that.
The Steelers is the best.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Move for Aaron Rodgers. He'll be in the black and yellow.
He needs to be in the black and yellow. Yeah,
he will be.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Did I read this correctly that Colorado and Syracuse are
seeking permission for joint practices in a spring game?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yes? How do we feel? That is actually electric? I
like it. I like it too.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
I like it as well. I think they don't play
this year, right, that's awesome. That's what you want to
get in there practicing, practicings each other. That's a good
move by Dion. That's a right move by Dan.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
And who's the who's the head coach for Syracuse? Well
known guy?

Speaker 1 (45:06):
You know, I forget his name. Came from Georgia.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
He came. I was gonna say he came from Georgia.
Coach fran Brown. Brown, he just tweeted him. Uh. Diane
was talking about it, talking about joint practices, and coach
Brown tweeted at him saying, like, let's get it going.
That would be I like the move. I feel like
it's a way like I get on the new generation
of nil and not like the portal everything else. But
just competing in the spring and just keeping your guys hungry.

(45:33):
I love the move.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
It'll be interesting for those players that young to be
able to go into a joint practice and see how
many fights take place, because it's gonna be it is
gonna be tough to not start swinging on fellas during
that spring practice.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
You know, there's not a game for years.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
It feels like months. Yeah, it's brutal, at least in
the NFL, like you're in August, Like, okay, a couple
weeks from now, we're playing a real game. But to
do that in the middle of the spring will be tough. Yeah, yeah,
I like it though. I like that move, all right.
It's the point where I try I put my phone.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Severance finale, you talk SEVERNCE finale, how cameras on on
that one? Should we should we have Taylor? You know,
to get out. I'll go shit with g again. I'll
go pee do you guys are your thing, But let's

(46:22):
keep it out a timer. Come on, JP, get to
the chair.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
JP's pissed.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
And shout out everybody in the comments saying they love
the Severance talk. You guys heard me last week. All
I needed was one but many came in because everybody's
tuned into the most popular show on TV.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Where Do We start?

Speaker 2 (46:42):
You hated it?

Speaker 1 (46:42):
I didn't hate it. The episode was entertaining, but there
was parts of the episode that were frustrating and that
I did hate.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
What's the biggest thing you hate?

Speaker 1 (46:52):
So when Mark is talking to himself, I was made
aware of something that pissed me off even more after
For the fact, it was a really cool scene, but
I felt it dragged on. And then when he's trying
to explain to his any like that reintegration is real.
Why wouldn't he say, Hey, you know your best friend

(47:12):
PD from work, he reintegrated. I met him on the outside.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
It's a great point. He's kind of in the moment,
you know what I mean, he's kind of scatterbrained focusing.
They're both just kind of focusing on themselves. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
And then I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
What's funny too on swapping back and forth, just going
in and out. I think it'd be so funny you're
just sitting there getting frustrated with yourself because Marquess was
bringing up some points, like my man, I'm a person too. Yeah,
but for like any.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Mark, any Mark barely a person.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
I'm with you, I'm with you. It's kind of like,
but you can't talk to him that way, sure you can't, Like, hey, bro,
we are the same guy, Like you're going to be
so happy because we're together. But in Any's mind, he
doesn't have to leave, Like why do I have to
trust you?

Speaker 1 (47:58):
We saw the power of the p on full display? Yeah,
horniness one, bro.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
That's what made me most sad is when he very end,
when he goes to Helly Jack.

Speaker 6 (48:12):
I'm nine nine percent sure that is not Helly, just
because they they had made the point to have their
goodbye in the office and they're like, I'll see you
at the equator, and then all of a sudden, the
one look that Helly or Helena gives is like that's
not the look Helly would normally give. It's that real
devious kind of like I'm up to something. And so

(48:37):
why would they say their goodbyes only for her to
show up right at the very.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
End and then run off.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
And also me and Cooper talking about this when Milkshake
comes up and he's talking with Keir like that creepy
wax figure, Like that wasn't just some recorded audio Coop
makes the point that he thinks the consciousness of kier
Egan is still alive. So, but I think that they're
going to take Helena and make her the CEO, and

(49:05):
like the board has existed always as like the consciousness
of the proprietors, like where you saw in season one
when they get to go to the perpetuity wing.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yeah. So, and to Jack's point with Helly and Helena,
she was, oh, crap, was that I was reading this
though I'm losing it.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Don't we So there's no part of us that thinks
Helena wants to, oh, what's this thing to fail?

Speaker 6 (49:34):
I don't think so, because I mean every time they've
shown Helena, like outside, she's very very heavy on lumen,
like she there's nothing that they've shown from Helena's perspective
that she is like doesn't enjoy.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah, question, she's kind of weirded out when Jamee or
Dad is sitting there when she's eating the raw egg.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
But remember yo, but Helly when he and when Heley
and and Mark are having their conversation about like the
equator and everything, She's like, Hey, we're gonna die down here.
They're gonna kill us off once they're done with us,
there's no need for us. So why would Helly show
back up at that end scene if she believes we're

(50:14):
gonna die down here? Anyways? What's the point?

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Yeah, No, that's a good point because part of me
two after, when I was talking with Charro, I was like,
they had that moment by the computer Helly, why wouldn't
she just say no, you have to go right, like hey, equator,
like you were saying earlier.

Speaker 6 (50:31):
And she gave that huge speech to the Marching Band
where she's like, yes, you've lost people like you don't
want to be next and then all of a sudden
it ends with her being like we're gonna stay down here. Also,
does the Marching Band exist in Lumen?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Are they hired to come down?

Speaker 6 (50:46):
Or is that their sole purpose and they've just been
living this life?

Speaker 2 (50:49):
No? Like Marching Band, the Marching Band scene was iconic.

Speaker 6 (50:54):
Hey and the serious the Bulls theme song when they
played that for Milkshake to come out always.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
On the floor, it was like, what what.

Speaker 6 (51:02):
Is going on at this point? It was such a
stressful episode.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
The whole stress like what.

Speaker 6 (51:08):
Is gonna happen next? And I want to know if
Milkshake's gonna end up turning.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
He has to turn.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
I think he I think he turns.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
The reason he has to turn is because I don't
know how you make ten more episodes off of how
they left it. Yeah, And that's another part that bothered
me that ending. I'm like, I just can't say, I
can't picture them being able to do a whole ten
more episodes.

Speaker 6 (51:33):
Yeah, run with now because they could do a whole
gym storyline where I think Coop was saying it, where
is it gonna be flipped?

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Where? Now?

Speaker 6 (51:41):
Jimma was always the main character, and they're going to
show her trying to rescue Mark. Is Helena. Now, maybe
she goes away from lumin but she's falling in love
with Mark S and she wants to take him because
she found Mark in the real world after she had
slept with him. And so I don't know if they're
gonna want like there's so many, like different ways that

(52:02):
could go about it.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
But I did see in.

Speaker 6 (52:04):
An interview people were really upset that Jimma thinks that
that was Mark, not Mark S. But her actress confirms
that she knows that that is.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Marks any and not her husband. When she's left at
that door. I loved how they were getting severed in
and out like all the all of.

Speaker 6 (52:21):
A sudden, miss Casey's back and yeah do that death
too with.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
And then all of a sudden, God, I know, because
I'm like, how is he going to wiggle through this?
And then the gun goes off? But also how about
Brionna Tarth just beating his.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Beating and after she took some licks too.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Like putting him up on the wall.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Yeah, dude, but I guess also even going into the
next season, so what Mark leaves, Luman goes out into
his OUTI life and sees Gemma and is like, oh, hey,
you're alive. Yeah, why would he go back down?

Speaker 4 (53:00):
There's no way they let him leave now, right because
of that point he's in there.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
And then yeah, they're just gonna what if they.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
This is a crazy wighter thought of I'll get I'll
ask it in a second. But what do we think
about Milchick? Do we still think he'll turn at some point?
Or is he confirmed up?

Speaker 1 (53:17):
I think he was moved by Helly's speech too.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yeah, he's just there's bits and pieces to keep coming.
He does and he stays true to his profession. But
even with the uh, the egan the way he was
talking to him in the speech, and he kind of
stayed heady about it, like a claymation. You're five inches
shorter and you hear the other consciousness laughing in the background. Yeah,
but uh, I think I think he eventually turns.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
He has to.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
He has to.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
He's right through the.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Way he gets treated. It's just too Yeah, I think
it'll I think it'll happen if.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
He doesn't turn. In the first two episodes of the
third season.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
I'm not watching, bro, you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
I will boycott. I'll we need to go to Looman.
I'll stay out there with a sign because.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
It's a real place, free milcheck.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
And that's what people don't understand, man, Like this is
going on, This.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Is actually happening. You guys are sleeping.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
You did show me a clip earlier today of Adam
Scott in Parks.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Yeah, Parks and rec explaining the separating work from work
from home. Yeah crazy, you know, just Loomin and sevens.
They've been playing just eight D chests since twenty fourteen,
dropping easy, dropping Easter eggs until next time, Yeah, until
next time.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
It'll come out sooner.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Yeah, they did say it'll come out sooner if they're
granted a third episode, but they're yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
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This a long, awesome, fun interview. We break down a
lot of stuff within the racing world, and uh, Dale
Junior his love for college football twenty five and his
video game crew and his friends. Like we break everything down.
This is a really fun episode. Appreciate you guys for
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(56:50):
we're here, We are here. We did it.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
We just did the reveal of the bus. The bus
looks fantastic. Little backstory on that. It was obviously wrapped
before and then we had some guys come and shout
out with custom. They came in and they were kind
of give us.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Like, hey, this fifty to fifty.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
When we started to take this thing off, that could
just ruin the entire paint. Yeah, so sing it for
the first time. It's pretty pristine. I don't know, but
that they ate out there has got a little wear
and tear.

Speaker 8 (57:12):
That's all right, but kind of like it.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Yeah, a little character. It's nice. Man.

Speaker 8 (57:16):
Yeah, bus looks great. It's good to be back. Thanks
for having me back. I'm excited about y'all's new partnership
with bud Light. I've worked with Anheuser Busch for years,
still still got a relationship with them.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Here the die Ass car and your butt heavy though.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
But yeah, so we did.

Speaker 8 (57:31):
We call them blue coats coats yeah yeah, coach red
coat coats and red coats, but the butt heavy.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Yeah so.

Speaker 8 (57:39):
But I enjoy uh, I enjoy plenty of butt lights
in my lifetime.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (57:42):
So it's cool you guys got that relationship. So glad
that that's kind of what has allowed you to kind
of get back to your identity and bring the bus
back and all that.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
So yeah, man, it thinks you coming out too, Like, yeah,
I was telling when you were over here taking a tuessy,
he came in and he had all these gifts. I'm like, yeah,
you're like the best gat like you're flying in for
the boys you're coming with.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
Very rarely do guests come and they bring gifts. Yeah,
us giving out stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
But yeah, well I was like really running over here
take my little afternoon Tuessie, and you were like pulling
up and he had like, what multiple helmets in your hand,
a bunch of stuff. I was like, oh man, he's
being some cool stuff. I didn't think it was gonna
be for us. Yeah, these helmets weren't. The helmets weren't,
but I got these dope. There's dope coozie. You said
your dad made these.

Speaker 8 (58:22):
So I so I remade my dad's coozy from nineteen
eighty one and back in eighty one that was a
koozy like the foam boat float and the water kind
of thing.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Thick.

Speaker 8 (58:32):
Yeah, So I had a company remake those for me
because I just loved the nostalgia and all things earned
heart from back in the day. And and I brought
you some more modern the bud eight coozies that we
had made, just some gifts, some drink, some some fun.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
I wonder when because we were talking before this this started.
Jack McPherson had a nice little tweet about the two
thousand and four bud Light candl When are we going
to bring these back? We need to talk to bud
Light about what does bust what the boys have to
do to bring back a vintage can.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Yeah, but just.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
In general, like I feel like the eighties and nineties,
that vintage type type of style needs to make it
come back in some way. And we might be the
podcast and you might be the individual as well to
help us get that done.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (59:14):
I think it's I mean, it's recognizable with all those
all the logos they kind of change and evolve over time.
Some people come in and put a new modern take
on on the on Bud Light or something like that.
But it is kind of cool those cans can become collectors.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
You know.

Speaker 8 (59:27):
Bud Light always does this annually where they'll where I live,
they do Panthers cans, Carolina Panthers can so it's all
black with the panthers and all that stuff. And they
did that for Washington one year. I still got like
a case of Washington cans right on then drink, and
so it's kind of cool all the things that they do.
But it would be cool to throw back.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Label bring the Frogs, bring the Olds back. Like I
feel like if you did a call back in a
couple of those commercials, people standing a plot in their
living room, so pause it like, let's just get a
right a plause.

Speaker 8 (59:56):
So back in back when I was working with bud
Hardcore was two thousand all the way up until eight
and I was at the National Sales convention every year
where they would unveil the commercials before anyone else got
to see them. And Bud and Bud Lights specifically had
the best Super Bowl commercials. You know, you mentioned the
frogs and the lizards. There was a guys. I mean

(01:00:19):
every year we would go to these national sales conventions.
There would be probably fifty celebrities. Everybody they were working
with was their singers, bull riders, actors, and we all
sat in the same same spot. There would be five
thousand people in this room, like bottlers and retailers and
all their people, all the bud people for all of

(01:00:39):
their brands, and we all sat down and we're like,
I can't wait to the commercial part. Right, We're going
to watch all the commercials. And they were great because
they were really you know, it's funny as shit. Some
of the best commercial.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Remember the Bud Bowl.

Speaker 8 (01:00:50):
They like the football bottles out there playing during the
Super Bowl. They had like the Bud Bowl. Like, as
a kid, that was cool as shit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
I know, I wasn't even enough to drink ripping. There
was one they did for the Super Bowl that was
like a bunch of horses playing football. And then oh
yeah and one of the guys, one of the.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Cowboys that there's like that refs an ass. Yeah, I
believe it's a zebra.

Speaker 8 (01:01:11):
That what a what am I'm a I'm a teenager
watching a Bud Bowl, and I'm like, I'm watching the
Super Bowl and I'm like, I can't wait till the
fucking Bud Bowl comes back. I want to see if
Bud light winds. You know, you're like legit, like a
bought end, the damn thing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
That's just a gimmick, right, Yeah, But it's so when
you first start, when you get into NASCAR for the
first time, everyone obviously has their presenting sponsor. Yours was Budweiser.
Was that like pretty clear easy to get done?

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Or was like were other people trying to get you before?

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:01:39):
I don't know, I was, I was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I wasn't involved.

Speaker 8 (01:01:42):
I was so young and my dad was doing the
wheeling and dealing in the background, and he the Bud
deal that we did that that at that time in
two thousand was ten million a year. It was the
biggest deal that anybody had. They were coming from Hendrick Motorsports,
where they had been for quite a while, and and
so that was pretty unique because Hendrick Motorsports is I
would drive for them down the road. They're a real
well respected company, and so to kind of pull a

(01:02:05):
brand like Bud from them to to and that Bud
was taking a chance on me to to be good,
and so it was really cool. I remember August Bush
rides into our shop on on with the Clydesdale's and
the and the dog on top of the bud you know,
the big wagon and the stage code whatever that thing was,

(01:02:28):
and they roll into our shop and they he comes down,
hops down, August Bush, the guy that owns the company,
shaking my hand, and man, I remember going to the
brewery or the business downtown in Saint Louis and walking
through there and uh, just being amazed to be connected
to such as iconic brand back then.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Did you ever get to influence like a decision with
your them sponsoring you something anything creatively?

Speaker 8 (01:02:57):
No, not really, no, no no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Hey bring the vintage cans back now? The one thing.

Speaker 8 (01:03:03):
So they were funny because uh there there there's some
healthy competition between bud Light and Budweiser and all their
other brands, like they they compete inside the business and
kind of like teammates race racing teammates competing at each other.

(01:03:23):
But it's healthy, right, raising everybody up. And you don't
want to get be by your teammate. You want to
be the best teammate, right, And so there's a little
healthy competition inside the business with bud Light and Budweiser,
and so I would. I went to them one time.
I didn't know about that. I went to them one time.
I said, you know, it'd be cool. I was like,
what if I drove a bud Light car one race?
I always drive the bud car every week. What if
I did a bud Light car. I think I'd be cool.

(01:03:44):
And they're like, hell, no, You're never running a bud bike.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Shut it down immediately.

Speaker 8 (01:03:49):
Yeah, they were like, no, it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Does sound crazy. I think of it as just like
bud head right now. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
We met with them in New Orleans during the Super
Bowl and I think I said something about bud bud
Wiser and bud Light to one of the guys and
they kind of looked at me like, we're not going.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
To do that now.

Speaker 8 (01:04:06):
And there the other thing that the other thing I
learned from them that was really I've hung onto this.
I don't know right or wrong. I thought this was, Hey,
they're successful, so I'm gonna believe in this idea. Is
they would They rarely wanted to change the car, the
way the car looked. They loved the continuity and that
you could look out in the field from the grand

(01:04:27):
stands and immediately see that car and it looked the
same all the time. And they they love that continuity
the car being the same, whereas today, you know, there's
there's different sponsors, different your you know, your favorite drivers
driving a different looking car every week, and it's it's tough,
uh to sort of follow along and and there's no uh,
there's no equity built up in a in a in

(01:04:49):
a look in the look of a car, right uh.
But man, when I drove Budwiser, like you can show
fans this car and they're like right away that that
triggers their nostalgia and they're like, oh, man, that was
my car because I ran that car and it looked
like that for five, six, seven years and we never
changed it. They just we would bring them all kinds
of ideas and we did some one off stuff with

(01:05:09):
baseball and other people here. You know, they had an
all Star car and they did they did some music
stuff with different bands, but for the most part, like
they didn't want to change the look of the car
too much. I adhered, like I kind of like believe
in that idea of building equity and continuity and in
a in a brand that and the way it looks

(01:05:30):
like I don't mind modernizing the logo, but it's got
to have it's got to still look like the original, right, Yeah, And.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Just like you're saying, like, if a casual fan goes
and watches a NASCAR race and they're able to point
out a vehicle that they've seen to get seen before,
that's like I feel like they're more part of it. Yeah,
oh okay, I know they feel like they know a
little bit more about the race now everything. But if
you're changing colors, like when we're at your shop, seemed
like you guys had.

Speaker 8 (01:05:53):
Different lots of that's the way modern NASCAR today. Everybody
runs a different looking car because you need so many partners,
so many sponsors. You can't have like one sponsor that
can fund the entire season, so we have to run
a different sponsor almost every other week. But like if
you look back in the history, everybody remembers the black
three car. Dad had the same sponsor for many years.
Jeff Gordon in the Rainbow twenty four. You know you

(01:06:15):
remember those cars because they were in that same car
every week every year for multiple years, and they built.
They they built equity and value in that. They still
lean into that today, so.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
We do too.

Speaker 8 (01:06:27):
Like I ran this car, this little ley Ma stock car.
I ran it at a place called Florence, South Carolina,
last November, and man, we unveiled the idea that we
were going to do this, and people went eight shit
and just balled right into it, right, And all the
people have started, you know, everybody on social media sharing
stories about their experiences watching you know, the cup version
of that car back in the two thousands run and

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where they watched it race and it was really a
great experience.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
That is awesome. Yeah, did you ever have like in
your racing days where you might have finished like twelfth,
middle of the pack and it felt like a big win?

Speaker 8 (01:07:02):
Oh yeah, so there's this one race I always talk about.
So it's always great to celebrate the wins, obviously, but
I'm sure y'all had games where maybe the overall outcome
wasn't what you were looking for, but you had there's
there's moments, right, maybe it was a sack or an
interception or something like that, or or you just had

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a great game that nobody's gonna remember, but you uh,
there was a race at Martinsville, North Carolina or Martinsville, Virginia,
probably two thousand and I don't know. Four two thousand
and five. We start to race, big crash.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
In turn one.

Speaker 8 (01:07:41):
I'm in it and tear the right front off of
my car, and the damage the back of the car there,
it is right there on the screen. So by the
time we got the car kind of repaired and able
to get back on the track, that's what it looked like.
I'm out there getting rad It's like five laps into
the race. It's a five hundred lap race at this
tiny little bull ring. And I get back out there
and I'm like, God, dang, this is gonna be a

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long day. My car is wrecked. It's not gonna be competitive.
I'm gonna be in the freaking way all day. This
is gonna suck. We get the running and running along there,
nothing's really happening. But as the run, as the laps
start clicking off, start passing, a few cars, start going
by a few more guys. My car is feeling good,
guys are getting worse, and I'm just trying to both.
I drive through the field all the way up into

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the top ten. I'm like, shit, we're good. This is
gonna be This car is great, and yeah, I drive
up into the top ten. I spend myself out right
here underneath the twelve car, have to go right to
the back of the field again, drive right back to
the front. Ended up finishing like fifth, fourth or fifth
in the race. I'm in the ship, I'm in the
photo as we're coming off term for battling for the wind,

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I'm there, I'm there right, And you know, I just
always I got a somebody made me a custom die
cast of that car. It's like the size of this
thing that I have in my collection. I got a
little modest collection of custom shit, and so somebody made
me one of those. And I'm like, this is like
my favorite race. I didn't win because of all the
ship that went wrong and how bad it should have been,

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but we just didn't stop trying, and the car actually
was badass. So the fact that the fender's missing it
kept the right front tire cool and allowed the tire
to really outperform everyone else who had a tire that
had a big fender on it that was in there
getting cooked by the brakes and the engine and everything else.
And so the fact that my car is out in

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the wind actually was an advantage over the long course
of the day, and that's why the car I think
actually ended up being really more competitive than it should
have been.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
There's obviously rules and regulations of like how cars is
supposed to be set up in all that, but you
ever like think, like I wonder if there's like a
tarra whe kind of like the pants we talked.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
About that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Maybe just like hit the wall real quick, boys, happens.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
You take out certain parts of your Michael Bennett used
to do that.

Speaker 8 (01:09:53):
Yeah, there is there's a there's an advantage if you
lose the tail piece of the car, NASCAR won't let
you run that. NASCAR makes you come down pet Road
and reinstall the tail if the whole tale comes off.
So the back bumper, if that that back bumper being
on there creates a lot of drag underneath it. Air

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comes from under the car and gets into the back bumper,
So if that were to come off, that's kind of
an advantage in some scenarios, and so NASCAR makes you
reinstall that. But we after this happened, I joked with
my teams for the rest of my career like, hey,
when we go back to Martinsville. You know, if the
fuck if the fender falls off, it's okay, like, don't yeah,

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don't you know if there's a.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Reason that pretty nudge, like, hey, the balls are actually
not telling you what they do.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
But if we could have a little driving into the wall, Yeah,
there's a little weird huh. Yeah. Just so when you
went back there, you're kind of hoping.

Speaker 8 (01:10:50):
No, I just knew, and I there's there was a
picture of a guy named Harry Gant and he won
that race in nineteen eighty one at Martinsville, and he
had the right he had damage on the right front,
right front tires exposed. He won that race again in
nineteen ninety one with the right front fender completely gone.
Same guy. And then probably a handful of years ago,

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I think Martin Tricks Junior or somebody else ran really
well with with a lot of damage some in the
right front tier, the left front, right front tire I
think exposed. And so I mean it's kind of common
knowledge now, but you can't. You can't build a car
to where the ship would just fall off for you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
They'll catch you.

Speaker 8 (01:11:25):
Yeah, that would be tough to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
When you have success the way you do there. Like
I don't know about you, but like in the football
where like a lot of guys are superstitious, some guys
lay their stuff out to listen to certain music and
stuff like that. Did you have like a game day
ritual that you would hit every single every single week
or you just got it? You just woke up pissed,
excellency after.

Speaker 8 (01:11:45):
I My superstitions were all the general traditional common knowledge superstitions,
like walking under ladders, breaking mirrors, the number thirteen. In racing. Uh,
people used to say the color green. That was like
a widely hard adhered to superstition, the color green was

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bad luck. Now, that didn't make any sense to me
because there were green race cars. Money is green, there's green,
you know there was there was moments where green didn't
seem to bother my luck, right, and so I didn't
really buy into that. Peanuts for some reason, peanuts around
the race car. There's people that are old old heads
kind of believe peanuts is bad.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Just having peanuts around.

Speaker 8 (01:12:27):
Yeah, don't eat, get away from my car unsheltered.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
So these are pischios, let them go.

Speaker 8 (01:12:38):
But that's a bit of an older wise tell. But man,
I was one that kind of believed in the like
the traditional stuff and like, yeah, so what's.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
The weirdest superstition you've ever seen from a different driver?

Speaker 8 (01:12:51):
The I think the ones that you hear about, I
don't even they're even hard to believe. Is like race
car drivers wearing the same pair of underwear every race,
like they got a pair of underwear that they have
to wear that day. Or yeah, I don't. I've heard
some kind of strange stuff like that, but nothing too crazy.
To be honest with you, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
I didn't.

Speaker 8 (01:13:11):
I I was more worried about like I don't eat anything.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
It's gonna suck your stomach up, you know. Or like
have you ever gotten the bubbles like a bubbly like
bubbly gut, bubble gut like bubble bubble guts, Yes, bubble.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
Hold those cheeks, So.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
You had it when you're out there racing. Let me
ship yourself.

Speaker 8 (01:13:31):
No, I never shipped my pants when you yourself? Oh yeah,
so on the hot days you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Got bubble guts, bro, there's no I mean, you could
hold it in, but it's gonna you have a slight release,
like let me try to get some air out, but
you're like there's no room for I never I.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
Think I think for like the normal population, people like
you're very aggressive with getting the air out of your butt.
You you'll take a chance that most people I remember
being in the airport with you, I mean, like the
bathroom quick ship myself. You know, I feel like you
kind of don't possess the quality of thinking like old
poop might come out here.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
There's an art.

Speaker 8 (01:14:04):
There's there's an art to limit. There's an art to
getting the gas around the poop. Yeah, and getting that out.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
I agree. When you got.

Speaker 8 (01:14:14):
So like the ship's coming, you're gonna ship, right, But
if you can get the air around the ship, that
buys you a little time.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
Yeah, you're just Yeah, that's a that that takes the
pressure down. It's going down. You gotta get some weight
off to slow the ship from the ad buys.

Speaker 8 (01:14:27):
You about ten minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Yea. Every far now, wrapping around the turd almost kind
of pushes it back up a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
It just takes the pressure down. That's basic science. That's
what you guys are talking about right now. That's hydraulics.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:14:38):
And so if you're I was pretty good at just
you know, making I could fart if I needed ship,
I could probably you know, I can relieve the pressure
without shipping my pants, and so I never shipped my pants.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Okay, but with bubble guts, you hold it in. Yeah.
I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:14:55):
The problem is is, though, do you I mean, this
is funny we're talking about this, but do you know
I My problem was is that when the you know, whatever,
the moment is right, whether you're in a race or
you're driving home, and you're like, holy shit, I got
to get to the toilet, it's coming. Your body knows
when you're near that toilet. Isn't that crazy because like
you you're like, all right, I made it into the driveway,

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I'm gonna be fine, And then as soon as you
get near the front door, it's like, fuck, no, we
gotta go now to sprint. It's like the time is now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
And you fortunately just get your pants down right in time,
like as you just started going in there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
There's a couple of those situations where you're literally flying
by the seat of your pants where you're like unbuckling
and kind of like doing this this hip maneuver to
jump onto that toilet just in time. You're hitting toilet
the same time things are coming us.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Yeah, that's a wild deal.

Speaker 8 (01:15:40):
Your body knows. It's like, hey man, that fool me.
You're near a toilet, Yes, happening, I gotta go.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
But pissing yourself, that's step.

Speaker 8 (01:15:47):
So this is the thing with pissing yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
Can I So yeah, I basically I want you to
explain this, But then I also want to know, probably
on a percentage on a race, how many of.

Speaker 8 (01:15:55):
These to be clear, not shitting ourselves regularly, yeah, but
we do. Ever, we do pee on ourselves sometimes. This
happened to me probably half a dozen times in my career.
So you the inside of a race car is a
good day one hundred and twenty degrees one hundred twenty

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five hundred and thirty. On a bad day, one hundred
and fifty degrees, super hot. So when you know, you
know beforehand, like on a Thursday or Friday, you're like,
it's fuck man, Sunday race day. It's gonna be ninety
five degrees. It's gonna be some miserable inside the car.
And so you start thinking about that and you start hydrating, right,
you're trying to do a little extra hydrating. You get

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up in the morning, you're drinking water and everything. And
there's a lot of things that are happening right before
you get into the car, driver's intro and a couple
other things handshaking and gripping and grinning photos that are there.
They're roadblocks to pissing, Like you can't get to the
john and so you you don't get to use the
bathroom and make sure you're good to go before you

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get in the cars. You hop in the car, you
buckle up, up, start your engines. You're in. You're committed, right,
you're gonna drive this thing all pit road and start
this race. Then you're like, shit, I gotta pee. And
it's I got a three and a half hour drive
in this car. I gotta piss. You can't focus if
you're holding a pee, you can't like you, you know,
your miserable costion comes out. You're like ship, you're you know,
sometimes when you're driving in the race, green flag, there's

(01:17:19):
enough to focus that it can take your mind off
of it, but your you know, caution comes out. You're like, fucking,
I'm just gonna piss, and so.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
It's kind of hard to piss yourself.

Speaker 8 (01:17:30):
You over hit it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Yeah, it's like doing it in front of somebody. Yeah,
I mean you have to be full of relaxed, Like
the minute you try to flex hitting a turn, you
gotta strain a little bit, like it closes up.

Speaker 8 (01:17:41):
You have to do it under caution. I don't think
I've ever been able to piss driving in green flag
conditions because you're focusing so much and thinking about driving
a car, you know. But there's the times that it's happened.
You just can't get You're not gonna get to the finish,
You're not gonna you're you're you're gonna pitch yourself. It's
gonna happen. You gotta you gotta, you know, accept the situation.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
And you're in.

Speaker 8 (01:18:01):
It's not a big deal because you're sweating your ass off.
It's miserable in there anyways. It's you know, it's already gross.
And so when you go, the only problem is is
so you get done. And I always had white suits, right,
and so so I'm thinking, like I got this white suit.
I'm like, I'm shit's gonna be obvious. Right when I

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get out, people are gonna look at me and go,
damn fucking pissed himself obvious. And so what I would
do is I would I would say, if I had
pissed myself, I figured it out, I got, I'd say, hey,
bring me an orange gatorade when I get done here.
When I pulled up, when I'm done, I pull up
onto the pit road and I'm gonna get out, bring
me an orange gatorade. And I would pour that orange

(01:18:43):
gatorade all over to like blend it in so you
couldn't see that is some dehydrated piss.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Yeah, well it's change.

Speaker 8 (01:18:51):
It changes the color of your clothes. And so I get.
I'm just you know, I don't want people to go that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
Look, dude, piste them and so pissed.

Speaker 8 (01:18:59):
So I would kind of blend it in and then
I would get out of the car. And then you
have to tell the interior guy. There's a guy that's
responsible for the interior of the car. That's his job.
He works on that part of the car all week
long and he's got to clean up the interior and
then he's got to get it ready for the next race.
And so he's he's that's his role, and he's your
buddy because he knows everything about what's going on inside

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of that car with you, and he knows everything you touching.
You and him talk all the time about let's move
this knob I can't reach it, or let's put this
over here that'll be more comfortable. And hey man, I
need to change my seat. It just don't feel right.
And so you and him are are close, good buddies,
texting pals, right, and you got to tell him, Man,
hey man, I pissed the fucking seat. You know you're

(01:19:43):
gonna Monday morning. I'm sorry, You're gonna take this seat
out and it's gonna smell. I'm sorry you can't. I mean,
you feel bad. You kind of want to go and
help him get this seat out. Sometimes that's not possible. Yeah,
he has to pull the there's an insert the seat,
a foam insert that's that's made perfectly for you. So

(01:20:04):
he just has to pull that out and then you know,
steam it down or hose it or pressure wash it
or whatever up. Yeah, but that's tough telling a guy. Look,
you gotta you gotta put up with this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Yeah, have you ever puked yourself? Never? No, you just
your you start puking down here. So there's some guys
actually a pretty badass.

Speaker 8 (01:20:26):
I know some guys that have done that, and I
can't imagine being so miserable that yours. You got a
full face helmet on, right, and you may be comprived
that that. I mean when you got a puke. A
lot of these guys are puking during the race while
they're they're battling it right, running in eighth place, and
all of a sudden, I had this one guy that
was driving my car and he's racing along and we're

(01:20:48):
having a good day. He's running like seventh or eighth,
and it's coming down to the end and he just
kind of goes high and loses a couple of spots,
and I'm like, what the fuck is going on? He's
throwing up. He just got sick, and he's like push,
pushes his helmet up just a little bit, and he's
like throwing up all over himself, and it was like
shredded chicken. He'd ate something that just was bad news,

(01:21:09):
and it just was everywhere. When he pulls in after
the race, it's just everywhe It's one of the things
you know when your kid throws up, it just goes everywhere,
and you're like, ah, you know you're the one that's
to clean it up. You're looking in there and you're like, god,
dang man, that's just it's everywhere. You don't touch anything
because it's all over the place. But so that luckily
never happened to me because I was specifically, like my

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morning meal. I usually wasn't a breakfast guy. So my
meal before race was bread and and and like ham
and mustard and like this is basically it's I wouldn't
you ain't gonna grill me a piece of chicken bread bread,

(01:21:55):
like a grilled chicken. I wasn't gonna risk, you know,
eating something that was not cooked properly or just you
just even though it's like highly unlikely you were gonna
have a problem, I just wouldn't risk it. So I
eat something very basic and just get something, get the
foundation in there, and then then go to work.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
Like just like rookies being super nervous about their first
NASCAR race. Yeah, you're kind of getting in. The elements
are kind of getting to you just start to get
a little dizzy, like, yeah, I got a puke. Yeah,
the guys like guys puked before games.

Speaker 8 (01:22:22):
I know guys that Noah Gregson drove for us and
he's in a Cup series now. He had a situation
or an issue where I think he was holding his
breath a lot at the end of these races. And
so if you you know, how like if you guys
maybe like went a little bit too hard in a
sprint or something and you get done and you like

(01:22:44):
your body like sort of has this sort of moment
where it's like you fucking overdid.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
It, you know, and you get a little sick.

Speaker 8 (01:22:49):
Maybe he would hold his breath I think late in
these races, and he would win these, you know, he
he would win a race, get out, you know, and
you get the other thing too. I wonder if this
is happening to you all guys in football, But there's
no He's a wild one.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
So he's a wild man. He's got an attitude about him.

Speaker 8 (01:23:11):
He does.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
He's like a modern day cam Ridgman. He's great.

Speaker 8 (01:23:18):
We went a sport that, you know, in a sport
that succeeds on personality.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
He brings a tongue.

Speaker 8 (01:23:25):
So he would get out of the car and I
think he held his breath a little bit in the
last few laps after trying to win these races, and
then he would get out and expel all of this
energy over being excited and then it would hit him
and he would just bend over and throw up right
on the frustraight away holding the checkered flag. He's like, yeah,
look there he is. That's that's after winning a truck

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race at Martinsville. He's throwing up on the track.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
How do you get to where you're holding your breath
at the end of the race but you're just so focused,
so you're just like not breathing.

Speaker 8 (01:23:54):
Yeah, I think that you because when you go into
the corner, you sort of every body when you go
into a turn, you like flex every bomp ever you
a muscle in your body, like you just you're you're
pushing against the seat, You're pushing against the steerwheel. Like
if the steer wheel is made of aluminum, man, you
would just probably twist that thing right off the steering shaft.
And so like every time you go into the corner,
your legs are going against the leg braces and you're

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just every muscle is just flexed all the way and
you you you know how like guys uh if you
ever go up and uh with the with the Blue
Angels or any of those guys, they have those grunning
practices when they get into the g you do that too,
not because of the same reason they do, but you
just you go in the corner.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
You're just drying his.

Speaker 8 (01:24:37):
Car, and so like you don't breathe for a minute,
like for a breathe fifteen seconds right then you might
breathe down a straight away.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
Then this corner comes.

Speaker 8 (01:24:44):
Again and you hold your breath. And I think that
he was probably doing that to an excess. And then
he gets out when's the race gets out and goes yeah,
you know, it just goes expels all of this excitement
and then and then he goes you know, he just
gets sick. I mean, I wondered, like if say, take
yourself to like, you know, a moment in a game

(01:25:10):
where you're you're playing hard, You're you're you're using your
you're you're using all of your energy, right, you're pushing
yourself almost of that limit, you know where that limit
is where you can ride all day, And you're right there,
and then you have a great play that you expelled
a little more to get that play to happen, right,
and you you're like, fucking, I went a little hard there,
and then you maybe celebrate, you know, and and there's

(01:25:32):
this sort of uh, your body sort of says fucking
calm down, man, you know you're about to throw up? Yeah,
or have you ever had that?

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
I've never had it, but I know guys. Guys do
throw up, like I mean, when you're exerting all that energy.
Yeah way, So even even with workouts, guys would be
puken after like GPP or something when you're doing like
work capacity.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
So yeah, I never I only threw up. I remember
ever throwing up in a game. I know what you're
talking about though, with like the like exertion of energy.
For me, it always came like a long drives and
you think you score and then you're getting hyped with
the boys. You're celebrating. Then there's a flag or they
actually call it back and you do another play and
you're like, oh yeah, because your your body has a
sense of being like, okay, it's over. I've smelled the

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rest right now, because you know you have a break
coming up. That's perfect, and it's like oh no, no, no,
you got to go one more or two more plays,
that's perfect. But I've never ran into a situation where
I threw up. We had we played a game in
London and I think I think it was twenty sixteen
against the Chargers, and my left guard got hurt, and
then Corey Levin shout out the boy who just actually resigned.
He didn't think he was playing. So he's having pints

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in London with the boys that he's he's enjoying London
a little bit. And I remember, like right when he
got in the game, we had like an eight nine,
ten play drive and we're in the middle of the
field and we're in the huddle kind of waiting. I
think it was like a TV timeout or an injury
timeout or something like that, and he just starts puking.
I'm started rubbing his back. Hey, you don't be all right, okay,
but there's nothing worse than I can't imagine the feeling

(01:26:53):
of being in the middle of a game.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Yeah, no, yack.

Speaker 8 (01:26:57):
I'm not a puker. I don't. I can't, like I can.

Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
I had one situation.

Speaker 8 (01:27:00):
I can get shithammered drunk and I feel like I
want to throw up, and I know that I will
feel better if I do. I had a stomach bug
last week and I'm laying on the couch like God,
if I could just throw up, but I ain't got it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
I'm not like that. I can't do it. We had
some bad oysters in New Orleans and it was like,
I'm laying in bed and I'm thinking the same thought
you are on the couch. I get man, I just
got to throw up. I'll just sit there and gag
myself until I don't think.

Speaker 8 (01:27:27):
I can't see even trying that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:27:28):
I've tried to do that back in the day.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
I just can't.

Speaker 8 (01:27:30):
It's got to come out the other end.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Yeah, I mean, you go, that's so you've never you've
never puked.

Speaker 8 (01:27:36):
Not many times like I did, get real fucked up
one time. And I remember the last time I threw up.
I remember last time I puked drunk. That's a long
time ago.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
The drinking, the drinking always gets me. Beer Olympics. I
can hold myself for a while. I can't do once
I know that the game's over.

Speaker 8 (01:27:56):
I'll even tell like, I'm I'll go on a trip
with some buddies and I'll tell them, like in a
text message were we leave, I'm like, don't even fucking
talk about shots.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
We're not doing.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
I got I drink. I drink beer all day.

Speaker 8 (01:28:07):
I know my thing. I gotta I got a damn
playing right, Ye know how I know my pace? Yeah,
you get up, you don't be getting Don't throw a
shot into the middle of the day or you know,
eight o'clock at night after we've been going for eight hours.
Don't be throwing a shot in there, because that that
ruins it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
That's when you've been going for eight hours. I am
a villainous friend when you're out because I all start
to get a little, a little cooked up. And then
when I took put the on switch on. I want
to go. Yeah, but I don't want to go alone.
It's not fun to go alone. You want to bring
your boys with you. So I'm definitely the guy that's
like I was always buying shots. I'll buy out like
I'll buy like, hey, let me get twenty of them

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and I'll just start dishing them out.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
I don't go to Will you take it?

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
I know Will is big on, like I got your
buddy and then one, two three or heal like sit
in the corner.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
So I got to stay on, stay on, Will.

Speaker 8 (01:28:57):
I'm watching. I'm watching. Yeah, I can see, Yeah, somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
Somebody's getting a freaking shot. They're getting shots. You got to.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
Hug my beer so I can spit the shot in
the beer.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Smart.

Speaker 8 (01:29:10):
I'd rather chug a full beer than to take that shot.
But easily, like there's a couple of SIPs left in
the beer and I'm like, I'll see it coming. I'll
be like, all right, I'm ready to take your shot.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
Yeah, the whole the drinking thing, eight hours in the
boosing with the boy zoned shots get brought up. It
always sounds like a good idea, but it always often.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
I mean, if you're drunk, you're not really in the
mindset of saying no anymore. Yeah. Real maturity is realizing,
like you're around eleven PM, you stop drinking.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
Yeah, like you're like, let me try to. That's when
your brains just be like, hey, there is a tomorrow. Yeah,
if you're lucky enough, it's going to be tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
That's when it becomes tough.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
You were talking about like all this stuff that happens
before the race. So I won't speak for Will, but
for me, like the most anxiety I would have before
a game would be jogging out there doing announcements.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
Hey, how we doing.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
Everyone's kind of wapping up, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
Are in the corner praying.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
Then all of a sudden, the national anthem happens. And
when that national anthem happens, it's like my heart rate
is probably higher than it'll be the entire day. Like
I'm just thinking about all the possible things that could
go wrong. How like what these plays are? These specific ones?
So my anxiety is so high. Yeah, what's it like
for you when it's like you're doing the announcements and
then you have to go shake the hands, kiss the babies, Like,
I can't imagine being social before competition. Was that a

(01:30:27):
very difficult thing for you?

Speaker 8 (01:30:28):
Very difficult?

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:30:29):
That was our sport. Our sport prides itself on being
really accessible. So we we did it because it was
like we're boasting on our sport right in our industry,
and how how how how people can come up and
check your hand or say hey, hey to us right
before climbing in the car. But it was hard mentally
to like really listen to a conversation if somebody, somebody

(01:30:51):
wanted to tell you a story, like hey man, we met.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
That's how it always is.

Speaker 8 (01:30:55):
I'm like, yeah, I can't really tune in right now.
I'm I'm also sit here wrinkle my forehead, nod.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Yes, I really When people too are like, hey, do
you remember me? Yeah, bro, I'm about to jump in
this car right now? Race?

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
Yeah you want me to recall remember that we have
a little awareness, Like if you're about to go jump
in a car and you do five hundred.

Speaker 8 (01:31:17):
Minds, it's like any all of the all of the
anything happening, like in that two hours before the race,
before you're climbing in that car, is it feels like
just a big, big obstacle and you cannot wait to
get in the car because you can't be reached. You
can't be you're you're in there and you're no one's
coming in there with you, right, And you finally like

(01:31:40):
get some and you're sitting on your ass right, so
you're like relaxed and you're in your seat that's custom
made for you. Everything feels good and comfortable and sometimes uh,
on them hot. I don't know if you guys ever
did this. Thinking about the hot days that we had.
I would get a water bottle, multiple water bottles, a
hole in the end of it, and I would soak

(01:32:01):
my entire suit before I got in the car and
so my thought process was my body sweats to cool
me down. If I'm already wet, I'm already kind of
beating it to the punch and it's still gonna sweat.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
I'm still gonna burn, you know, lose some water.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:32:15):
But I'm but I'm like it, don't have to rush
to do that job or get that started in the
first hour of the race, right, And so if I
soak the suit, now it's not poor. It's just wet.
The whole fucking thing's wet, like you put it in
the bucket and ring it, wrung it out.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
Man.

Speaker 8 (01:32:28):
I'd get in the car and I'm pretty comfortable even
on like a ninety five degree day, and as soon
as I get moving any kind of air moving, it's
like coat cool and yeah, and like it's bring.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
The water bottle and just squirt it all over there
before game. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32:42):
I feel like when you first start sweating too, like
like if you get in the sauna and yeah, that
first five minutes when your body begins to swea you
have like an irritation almost like you're like, h kind
of itchy. Yeah, and then finally you get into a
good sweat and you feel good. So I like that move. Yeah,
I like that moved After that, that's the So the
point you sit in the car is when you feel
like relaxed, yes, because for us it's it's the first hit, like,
let's get the first play done.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
Yeah, you can get your first play the way then
you feel.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
Me let me, let me put my hands on somebody
real quick. How we really feel in the day. That's
when you know what kind of day it's going to be. Yeah,
because you get the first couple of plays and it's
like you might maybe mess up on the first three
plays of the game. Yeah, that's a different that's a
different mental warfare right there.

Speaker 8 (01:33:19):
Yeah, how long? How where do you remember games where
you were like struggling to find yourself to fall into
that like comfortable space.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
Not like a not like a fool game. Yes, yeah,
I mean I guess for an alignment, it's it feels
a little bit. It feels a little bit different because
I feel like you're kind of in sync on doing
the same thing. Like if you're blocking well, you're blocking well.
But I like between like if you have a bad
run play or a past play on defense, it wouldn't
really be something that it just like consumes you like,
goes into your play the rest of the day. But

(01:33:49):
it's more so like it's that play that's just sitting
in your head the entire time. You go back to
the sideline. So you might make a play, you're not
even really caring that you made a play because you
were thinking about what you played before. Yeah. For me,
coach going to coach you when you get in the
film room and everything else.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
Oh yeah, I wish there was a way to like
combat that, because I feel like it goes through every
player's mind is like what are the coaches going to
say about this on Monday? And you're in the first
quarter of the game and you're like, oh, I can't
wait to get past that to worry about that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
For offensive line, it's very like there's a lot of
precision that goes into it, especially with pass blocking. So
for me, it was like feeling out the speed of
the individual. I'd watch them on film like, Okay, this
person's faster, they're a little slower with their more power.
It was really just like feeling them and understanding, Okay,
what is what does my tempo have to be against
this person?

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
All day?

Speaker 3 (01:34:35):
And that first couple of pass plays, whether it was
in the first drive. Luckily hopefully you don't go three
and out. But if you have like a good like
six to seven play drive in the first first series
and you're able to kind of put your hands on
them and feel it, that's when you feel a whole
lot better. The tough is that first third down, Like
the first thing you brought up. I remember we were
playing the Saints. Has had to be like twenty twenty
one or early like twenty twenty or night nineteen, and

(01:34:58):
we played the first series and I overset a guy
d big guy from you uh, from University of Texas
El Paso, but I overset him and that was a
first third down of the game, and you just get
in your head. You're like and we got off the
field after that, and you have to think, like, Okay,
what did I go?

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
What went wrong there? How do I have to fix this?
Throw it?

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
Be sure, shout, I get out a little bit more.
And then they start saying guessing all of these things
you're doing. Yeah, from a technique standpoint, that was always
like just the mental game that was going on.

Speaker 8 (01:35:24):
Yeah, while playing, I didn't think about that, like that's crazy,
because like when I'm watching a game and there's a
three and out, especially the first drive, you're thinking about
the Yeah, the the confidence of the quarterback. Can't damn
is this the is this an omen for the rest
of the day. Can we stop the other team from
putting points on the board getting behind? You don't even

(01:35:46):
think about like the individual other individuals on the field
and now they're you know, because I can't see the
details and go, damn though my old lineman feeling pretty
shitty about that, right because he did this or that
and the other. You don't even think about those guys
walking off the field and how that affect their their confidence.

Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
Yeah, it's a it's an interesting and that's we talked
about football obviously the football podcast. But like eleven guys
in the field have to do their job, and especially
with the offensive line, Like it is such a mental
game that goes along with the physicality of it, especially
in pass part because that's how you get paid. Yeah,
the less sacks you get up give up, the more
money you make. And so like those are like it's

(01:36:22):
like run block for show, pass block for dough And
if you can get in there and and really just
feel confident earlier in the game, it makes everything so
much easier.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
And you just know too, just being a competitor and
being an athlete with the NASCAR, like if you take
a turn wrong, it's more about like you having the
goldfish memory of thinking, all right, this is correctable. I
got reached on this run play. I was in a
bad position. I took a bad first step, Like you
just got to correct the process. And you were like, yeah,
you know your preparation to be in a better position.

(01:36:51):
But if you end up letting that stuff consume me,
like oh, I'm taking these turns wrong or oh I'm
just not playing well today, and then it just kind
of consumes your entire being at starts, stacking and stack.
You have to be able to put you have to
be able to put those like plays behind you if
you're going to get out of whatever that said run is.
Because usually it's just like a technique thing.

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
But when you when you're talking about like you don't
think about the offensive lineman, like when I watched NASCAR
being a casual feeling. I know how to drive a car,
I can drive stick, but I'm not thinking about the
technique that you guys are going through. I'm just seeing like, hey,
they're breaking pretty hard on that turn. It seems like
but like what like the small pieces of game that
you would like kind of folcus like what were like
kind of your mental hurdles you to go through.

Speaker 8 (01:37:30):
So yeah, they in the conversation we were having, Uh,
you're your the car is a really big part of
the success or failure that you're going to have that day.
And so your guys, it's your body, and it's your
preparation and all your You go out there and if
you're talented and and you've prey prepared and you know

(01:37:52):
your opponent, you go out there and it's you right.
But as a driver, you kind of a lot of
times or at the mercy of the ability of the
car and if it can do it or not, and
you'll go and start those you'll start the race and
run like a handful of corners and you're you're judging
the car. You're going, Is this damn thing any good?
Is it gonna be better?

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
Is it?

Speaker 8 (01:38:13):
Is it better than that guy? I'm catching him and I'm
caught him there? Yeah, Okay, I'm doing this right. It's
doing that right, and or it's sucking and you're out
of control, and you don't have the grip, and you're
losing positions, and guys are on your ass and and
and breathing down your neck, and your confidence in the
car determines whether you spiral down or continue to do well.

(01:38:36):
And so as the in the very first handful of lapse,
a driver is really just judging this car and and
critiquing the car, and Okay, if it's not great, we're
gonna have a chance to fix it. On the first
pit stop, pull down pit road. Tell the crew chief
everything you can to get, give him the all the
information you can to make so he can make the

(01:38:56):
best choice to fix the car, improve the car. He
gets a chance to improve it. You go back out there,
all right, did he fix his some of a bit.
We're gonna start the we're gonna get the ring flag
and start to continue the race. Either it's improved and
you're happy, Hey, great job man, you fucking fix my problem.
I'm better, or he didn't fix it at all. It
didn't It didn't make a damn bit of difference. And

(01:39:17):
now you're like doubting the ability of your team and
yourself to even make the day better. And sometimes it
doesn't get better. Sometimes you just have a car that
doesn't do what you want it to do, and you
got to drive a son of a gun for three
and a half hours and it sucks. But some days
you start with a bad car, make it better and
you have a great day and you're proud of that,
and you're proud of your guys, and you're some days

(01:39:38):
you start to racing. Shit's bad ass and it's awesome
all day. But you're always reliant on this car to
like do things. Uh, And you could be the best
race car driver, smartest guy, know everything you need to know,
and if your car sucks, you can't overcome that, right,
You can't. You can't wield that car in into into
being what it can't do.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Yeah. Yeah, with your drivers, have you ever been like
in the with the crew on race day? Like are
you went from driver to the stuff that you do
actually do media stuff? But have you ever experienced, like,
you know, taking the chance to be like put yourself
in as like a coach like coach Earnhardt.

Speaker 8 (01:40:16):
A little bit not a ton But we ran the
Daytona five hundred this past February for the first time
as a team. So my team that I've owned as
an owner, runs in basically kind of what is what
i'd call the college level, and we have four full
time teams and they race on Saturday before the big
boys on Sunday. And so that's what we've been doing

(01:40:37):
this February. This past February, we entered a car in
the Dayton five hundred, which is the biggest race of
the year for the for for NASCAR, and I was
I had I had a lot of fun because I
was way more plugged in, way more vocal. I was
on the radio during the races, talking to the driver,
and I worked on the car a little bit in
the garage, and like it was just I was able

(01:40:59):
to be more I was able to be more hands on.
And I don't necessarily coach coach the drivers all that much.
It's hard. I was talking to one of my drivers
this morning about a race coming up this weekend, and
I'm sitting there and I'm like trying to explain some
things that are unique about this particular racetrack, and You're
just wondering, you know, like how much of it they're
picking up because they're young, and I remember being young,

(01:41:21):
and damn, you could tell me all kinds of awesome
freaking information, but I might not be like processing it
and taking it in. I just got to go out
there and experience it right and see the wrong and
the right and and and and adjusting fix and you know,
just learn by doing. But so I try to coach,
but a lot of times, man, they just look at

(01:41:42):
you with this bewilderment and they're like young and like, yeah,
I got I know what you mean, and you're like
I'm not sure you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
And we'll see.

Speaker 8 (01:41:52):
But you know, my dad, you know, tried to help
me a little bit with some advice and driving and
and it was really good. And so I mean, I
try to I try to talk to my driver sometimes,
but a lot of times they just got to go
out there and see it and do it.

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gotta get hard on them.

Speaker 8 (01:42:53):
Oh yeah, I mean, you know, there were some. There's
definitely times when they're they're just not you know, they're
they're they're making their doing things that are detrimental to
their success. They're getting frustrated and arguing or fighting with
other drivers, or doing things on the racetrack with the
car physically with other drivers. That this that you're hurting yourself,
you know, and you're letting your You need to have

(01:43:14):
your focus on trying to win this race today. And
I know you pissed at this guy and you want
to get his ass back, you know, But but that
that you can do that, but it's gonna keep you
from trying to win the race. Yeah, And so there's
some times when they or you know, maybe they're not
putting in the week week the week work, the work, studying, prepping,

(01:43:36):
taking you know, physical care of themselves or things like that.
Sometimes you might get on a driver about his focus,
like week to week focus, because they got a it's competitive, man.

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
The everybody that.

Speaker 8 (01:43:48):
Matters toward this guy's career, every everybody that matters toward
a young driver's career is paying attention to the things
he's doing. And it's the details and is he studying,
is he working out? Is is he got himself in
great shape? Is he all fucking around drinking beer with
his boys all night long? Every you know, during the week.

(01:44:09):
Do we know where he is right on a Monday night,
on a Tuesday night?

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:44:14):
And so they're the people that matter are paying attention,
and that's what I try to tell them, Like, you know,
if you're everybody's watching right everything you do so good
the right ship.

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
Yeah, you know, and you in your mind, what does
a week routine look like that You're like, Okay, that's
a good routine.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
You have.

Speaker 3 (01:44:30):
Well, your race on Sunday.

Speaker 8 (01:44:31):
Yeah, they race on Sunday, They race Saturday or Sunday,
but they're gonna be in the sim which is basically,
we don't have practice.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
We can't.

Speaker 8 (01:44:38):
We don't have a lot of practice where you actually
go to the racetrack and take the car out and
run it around. So we have simulators, big giant, multimillion
dollar simulators that you climb into and you drive in
a in a virtual world. And the manufacturers Chevrolet Toyo
to four, they've spent millions of dollars on these simulators
and getting a couple hours in one is very valuable
and anytime you get an opportunity to do that, you

(01:44:59):
do it. And there's got you've got to volunteer to
be in that simulator right to be able to work
on your craft. You can work on the setup of
the car, new ideas, run and practice different lines and
stuff like that in the simulator and it transfers over
into the real world. So on Monday morning, I think
you either need to be working out. There's a group

(01:45:20):
of drivers that work out together. All of the Chevrolet
guys work out together. They have a Chevrolet program where
there's this coach that his name's Josh Wise, and he
he coaches all of the Chevy drivers on they do
reaction time games and ship where the light on the
wall and they're doing yeah right, they're doing all of
that shit. And they'll they'll go jump in the lake
and swim across the channel and do ridiculous things. And

(01:45:43):
he never tells them what they're gonna do. You just
show up and you might go ride a twenty mile
forty mile bike ride. Just be ready. And so that's Mondays.
That's every morning, Monday morning, Tuesday morning, Wednesday morning. And
when you're not working out or doing those things with Josh,
they need to be in the simulator. They need to
be meeting with their crew. They got to meet with
the crew chief, go over last week's race, what went right.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
What went wrong? What do we learn? Go over there.

Speaker 8 (01:46:09):
Yeah, then they'll watch film of last year's race. They'll
watch the whole race. They'll say, okay, here's here's here's
eight guys that tried eight different strategies and this one
worked really well.

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
We may do that.

Speaker 8 (01:46:22):
So you know, get the driver's mind kind of prepared
on what kind of strategies might pop up during the race,
so he knows what you're asking him to do. When
you're telling him to come down pit road and get
tires and fuel and so they that that's several hours
on a on a on a Tuesday or Wednesday. There's
tons of meetings and yeah, I mean that that's those
are the most important things. And drivers need to be

(01:46:46):
there in person. I know they can zoom in and
they can, they can kind of they can kind of
have asset a little bit. And I know there's places
they got to be too. For sponsors, there's requirements for
them to be out and doing things, y'all know what
I'm talking about there, But being present and being in
person and filling out. We give them note, you know,
the teams give them a note the big sheeter one

(01:47:07):
sheeter to fill out after the race, Like fill that
shit out, be be precise, be descriptive. We're gonna lean
on that note next time we go back to this
racetrack in six months. So give us everything you can
give us, right, And so those guys sometimes I remember
being half assed about some of that ship, like filling
the notes out going. I was annoyed the car didn't
fucking turn. That's what I wrote down, right, Yeah, And

(01:47:27):
I need to tell them like why didn't it turn?
What did it feel like?

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
Why?

Speaker 8 (01:47:30):
What did I think the problem was with the car,
specifically the details of the of the car's mechanics, and
try to give them some route to the way to
solve that problem, right instead of just being frustrated and
mad about it?

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
Now do you get? Do you get you kind of
come on glued or get the parent voice going on
with some of these guys like demeanor, No.

Speaker 8 (01:47:50):
I don't, No, I don't get too mad.

Speaker 3 (01:47:55):
I want to so sometimes, I mean that's the perfect
Dale explanation effort, stays calm in every situation. However, I
want to Well, you know he's thinking about one guy
right now.

Speaker 8 (01:48:11):
There's a couple there's a couple of times couple well, no,
there's a couple of times when there things didn't go
well in the race. And I mean, you know, you
could go into the room with with when they're meeting
the teams and the drivers and the creachieves. You could
you could go in that room and you could slam
your hand be you know, fist down on the table,
and you know, what the hell are y'all doing? Why
did y'all do it that way? Why you don't let

(01:48:33):
let that happen? Again, they don't. People don't. People don't
absorb that, right, They don't go and fix it. They go, damn,
we got to ask you today, you know, or damn
Dale was mad and and and they don't. You gotta
you gotta go in there and and say, hey, why
did you know? Why did that go that way? Why

(01:48:54):
did what do we what are we gonna do about that?
How are we gonna fix it next time? Or I
know we all got a plan, right, y'all got a
plan right?

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
Fix that? Do you ever listen to the right Yeah,
Are you ever listening to the driver knowing that you've
had your experience on the road and you're listening to
a driver and you understand the team, like what they're
doing for the car and everything else, to where a
driver comes out and they might be complaining about the car,
they're saying something in a way to where it's like, hey, bro,
you're full of shit right now. You need to figure
it out, you know, X, Y and Z out there

(01:49:21):
on the road. You're trying to blame too many other
things there.

Speaker 8 (01:49:24):
I think the one thing that happens and I know
this because I did this is a lot of times
the driver has one line of communication, and that's the
crew and the team and the crew chief, right and that,
and so when you're mad as a driver, you have
only one one line of communicator. Like anything you say, right,

(01:49:46):
this car is a piece of shit. I'm kick fucking
doing all I can out here. I'm busting my ass, y'all.
This thing drives like shit. All of that information is
going directly to the people that actually put that car together,
that actually are there to help you, and the ones
that will fix it if it gets fixed.

Speaker 2 (01:50:02):
Right. And so.

Speaker 8 (01:50:04):
A driver gets we get confused because we're in that car.
We're hot, we feel like we're on an island. I
used to say, I felt like a castaway out there,
like I'm owing Bob by myself. Man, y'all don't have
an idea what's going on. I'm all out there by
myself fighting this damn thing. Y'all don't know what it's like.
And I'm like, this car is a piece of shit,
biggest piece of shit ever drove. That is the worst
thing to say. These guys are the ones that built it,

(01:50:25):
They brought it to the track. It's their car. You know,
you can't call a car a piece of shit to
the people that brought the car and fixed it and
ready readied it for you, and so and you you
can't you you can't sit there and rent and cuss
about I'm busting my ass. You know, they know already

(01:50:46):
that you're busting your ass. They're watching it. You don't
have to tell them. You don't have to, you know.
And I did this. I did this like I can.
And so I'll hear a driver today he get they
get they they need you to know, like they're giving
it all they got. Man, they are, they're suffering, They're
they're hemorrhaging confidence, uh you know, and they're getting insecure.

(01:51:09):
The car's not good. They're hemorrhaging all of these things.
And they need you to know. They're they're fighting and
their artwork. They're trying, they're trying to make this car
that you you built work and they but we have
a terrible delivery, and we end up really saying things
that are detrimental to that relationship between a driver, crew
and crew chief. And so sometimes I will have to

(01:51:29):
say or or I remember something I did, and I'll
hear another driver say it, and I'll go, hey, you
got to remember, these guys are here to help. They're
the ones that are gonna fix it. They're the ones
that you got to You got to talk to them
in a way that they want to fix your problem.
And if you piss them off or you talk to
them in a negative way and not, you know, not

(01:51:50):
a supportive way, you come down pit road, they're gonna
be like, fuck that guy, you know. And so when
you're you're coming to get help and service and get
your car adjusted, they're gonna be like this kid, you know,
he's just a pump. And so, you know, I learned
that the hard way a few times, and I thought,
you know, oh, I know these guys well enough to

(01:52:11):
tell them their car is a piece of shit. But
it's never a good idea because they.

Speaker 2 (01:52:15):
Was somebody that pulled you aside the beg hey man, yeah,
how'd you learn that? Lesson?

Speaker 8 (01:52:18):
Was your old Tony Junior, my cousin Tony Junior, my
my uncle Tony Senior. I worked for them on the
bud car back in the two thousands, and they told me,
they said, hey, you called the car piece of shit.
Don't do that. All the guys that build that car
work on that car listening to you. Not only the
guys that are in the pits and we're at the
racetrack that day. Also, all the guys that are sitting

(01:52:38):
at home. The guy that painted that car is sitting
at his house on the couch watching you run, hoping
you win, and it's gonna paint your car next week.
He's the one that heard you call that car piece
of shit. You know, all the mechanics that are not
travelers that are sitting at home with their family, you know,
all of that information. They might not hear it in
the moment through the airwaves or through TV, but they're
gonna get that information there.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
Know you.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
War travels quick, yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:53:02):
And so you know, you just don't want to get
this reputation within your own team of somebody who just
kind of comes unhinged in the toughest moments, and that
and that and and his and his and his combative
or abrasive right in those moments.

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
But it's hard, man.

Speaker 8 (01:53:16):
You're out you feel like you're out there by yourself,
and you feel like that nobody knows how hard this is,
but you and you feel like you're you are feeling
a sense that you're letting your team down. But your
reaction in your words are, guys, I'm doing every fucking
thing I can with this thing. It won't do anything right.
And what they hear is the car sucks. I'm fucking

(01:53:38):
I'm not the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
And you're thinking to the audience is watching the race
or seeing me not perform as well, it's just blaming.
They're not seeing that.

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
There's the casual fans not thinking about everything that goes
in the week before. They're thinking about this driver that car.
Cars got to be perfect the top of the line. Yeah,
this this week, and Dale is relaid down this year,
getting it done.

Speaker 8 (01:53:59):
There's what they call YouTube this but there there's what
they call radioactive and that there's every driver has multiple
YouTube clips of themselves that fans have put together of
all of their worst moments.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
Beautiful.

Speaker 8 (01:54:15):
There's some good radioactive, like, hey, this one's funny. This
is eight eight minutes of Dale Junior being funny on
the radio during the race. And then there's like, you know,
here's five minutes of him being a complete asshole to
his team, you know, and there's our drivers just completely
coming on hand, just screaming curse words into the middle
distance over the air. You know, you gotta mash that

(01:54:35):
button because if nobody hears it it, don't you don't
get the relief.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
Yeah, so there's a no talk button.

Speaker 8 (01:54:40):
You having the car, you got a button that you
mashed to talk to the team, and like you could
be in their mattern hell, and you can scream it
don't feel good. You gotta mash that button so somebody
hears you, you know, And that's the worst thing when.

Speaker 3 (01:54:54):
You smash that button. That's the same thing that the
fans can make to Yeah, so people are you if
you're talking ship so all you and you consciously went
and be like people, someone needs to hear yes right now.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
Yeah, I gotta get this.

Speaker 3 (01:55:09):
I gotta get this, just saying into the abyss, I
need somebody that I need to hurt somebody's feelings today
over this situation.

Speaker 8 (01:55:15):
And then the TV sometimes takes it and puts it
on the actual broadcast, you know, and then now it's there,
it's you know, common knowledge, and then you gotta get up.

Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
You get it.

Speaker 8 (01:55:24):
Monday morning, you're like, damn, I shouldn't have said all
that day.

Speaker 3 (01:55:27):
That The next day, yeah, after you have made couple
of actions, you wish you didn't.

Speaker 8 (01:55:32):
I said, there's.

Speaker 2 (01:55:32):
Sorry, Steve listened to a damn word you said. The last.

Speaker 8 (01:55:38):
There was the one there's one clip on there where
I I'm driving around and I had had a couple
of loose wheels and wheel fell off a wheel. I'm
didn't get the wheel tight and the wheel come off
the car and wrecked hardest ship at Atlanta, and that
we're we're at another track and I got a loose wheel,

(01:55:59):
and I was so mad. I was like, y'all, like
the loose wheel, the wheel comes off at full speed,
you just fly into the wall and it's nasty. It's
a hard rick. And I I come over the rate
and I was like, if this fucking wheel comes off,
I'm hitting every one of y'all in the hand with
a hammer. I was like, I don't know how to
make y'all understand, like this is this is not fun

(01:56:21):
for me to be out here wondering if this wheel
is gonna come off or not, and I'm gonna fly
into the fence out of control.

Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
Is that like an inexcusable mistake?

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
Though it.

Speaker 8 (01:56:31):
Happens, it happens, it happens rarely. But I was like, y'all, God,
a damn stuff. You can't leave my wheels loose. You can't.
And that was my only way to like, I thought
that was a great analogy, like I'll hit y'all with
a hammer. And I see that, I'll see that clip
on you on YouTube and I'm like, God, that's stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:56:51):
Why did I say that?

Speaker 8 (01:56:52):
That was so rude and crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
Necessarily it's a crazy shot to say I'm gonna put
you hear your with a hammer?

Speaker 8 (01:56:57):
Yeah, I bet the guy I imagine and the guys
standing there, even though I know that they're my guys, right,
we're a team, and I know they're probably standing there going, well,
fucking asshole, right, Yeah, he's gonna hit me with a hammer.

Speaker 6 (01:57:10):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
Is there? Is there like with the wheel being loose?

Speaker 3 (01:57:13):
Is there like like in football there's like basic one
on one ship that the coach will get up and
be like, l one like, this is basic one on
one football.

Speaker 2 (01:57:21):
You can't be doing this.

Speaker 3 (01:57:22):
Is there something like in the pit crew standpoint, they're
like you, this is something so basic that you should
not be messing up that they deserve an as gotta
fill with gases?

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
What are we doing? I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:57:33):
I mean there's everything and everything that I can think
of is like it's a human error, it's a it's
a possible, it's a possibility.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
At any moment.

Speaker 3 (01:57:40):
Very forgiving individual.

Speaker 8 (01:57:42):
Yeah, I mean some guys are like zero tolerance, But
I mean I've lived it long enough to know that
there's to have zero tolerance as an expectation is not realistic.

Speaker 2 (01:57:52):
Yeah when you were Yeah, that's the line. If the
wheel comes off and I hit the fits real hard,
I get to whack every damn one of you with
a hammer.

Speaker 3 (01:58:03):
That is hilarious. Is there is there a specific individual
that comes to mind from like your generation of racing
that like was as just a known hothead with.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
His pit crew.

Speaker 8 (01:58:14):
Well, I mean I there there's some guys that were
pretty Kurt Busch has some good radio actors on YouTube.
Kyle uh Harvick was pretty pretty vocal about his team
like he demanded he was. He was one of the
guys that would would publicly say, hey, our our pit

(01:58:35):
crew has to improve, you know, and he would talk
on the radio that would end up on the broadcast
about his team needed to be better on pitt Road.
I did. I wanted to say all those things. Uh
you know, I have felt those things and wanted to
say all the things that they said, but I was
I didn't want it to get into the broadcast. I

(01:58:55):
didn't want it to be fodder for the media, right,
And so there was something slipping your finger off the ball.
Those times I slipped up, But for the most part,
I don't have too much radioactive bullshit out there.

Speaker 2 (01:59:06):
That's funny. Yeah, if you could change any rule in NASCAR,
what would it be shit?

Speaker 8 (01:59:12):
Just any rule? I mean, I wish we could figure
out a new package for the Daytona Talladega race tracks.
I would probably work on the rules that affect how
the cars race at those two places, dayton and Talladega.
So we go to Daytona five hundred and the cars,

(01:59:33):
you know, the way the race is sort of the
way you watch the races. You guys might not pick
up on it, but some of the details of how
the cars race and why they do some of the
things they do are kind of it's not as great
as it used to be, or it could be better
than what it is today. And I think it and
I don't know the answer that specific like technical thing
that needs to change, but I would love to be

(01:59:54):
in the process of how we can make the cars
do different than they do there how they race together.
But I'll be honest, man, racing right now the race,
I'm no bullshit like I'm I'm a I'm a I'm
a critic of the sport. I I hold them accountable
when I believe I know what's right. But things are

(02:00:17):
really good right now. Things are really really good.

Speaker 2 (02:00:20):
I do know.

Speaker 3 (02:00:21):
I think that's the direction you're going to go. I
got about I gotta be honest.

Speaker 8 (02:00:26):
I was We ran Daytona and I was there right
we had a car in the race. I was really
frustrated with the way the cars raced and the way
there's the product on track product. I was frustrated with it.
A casual fan would have watched the race and not
seen the things that I saw. That that bothered me.
So there's that, but I saw things that I'm like,
I wish they would fix this ship. Everything from that

(02:00:47):
moment on, all the races that we've ran have been fantastic, spectacular,
and and we have this sort of very informal poll
that goes up on Twitter after every race by a
guy named Jeff Gluck, who's in who's a journ list
in our sport, very respected it's the good race pole,
and it's but it's a yes or no was it
a good race? And there'll be thousands and thousands of

(02:01:08):
people that vote on this pole every week and it's
very informal, just for fun, but our we've been doing
this poll for debt for for years, and so like
a really really good day is a high eighty. That's
like a really great it's like everybody's fucking happy with that, right,
Everybody like this, And so our races have all been
trending in the really really good high eighties and nineties,

(02:01:31):
and you know, there's rarely a race where people were
just like that sucked, you know, fifty fifty to fifty yes, no,
And I know that's very rudimentary, but I you know, hey,
it's it's a it's a small glimpse into the public
opinion of something. I know, it's you know on X.
It's not the entire world on X, but it's a

(02:01:51):
it's a it's an idea of people.

Speaker 2 (02:01:53):
Yes, you might think, a man, these are the few
things that I would change. I wonder if other people
are catching it too. You go and just be like, hey,
was this a race? You see like eighty five percent, Hey,
I loved it. That's I know.

Speaker 8 (02:02:04):
So the racings, the racing has been highly complimented, and
so when that's going sometimes you got to go, hey,
maybe I don't fucking know what is best all the time,
right If fans are loving what they saw Sunday, maybe
maybe you know I'm maybe I am a I am
a traditional, I am nostalgic. I am like one of
those people that go, oh, those are the best, you know,

(02:02:26):
the eighties and nineties so so awesome, and you can't
you'll you can't never put the toothpaste back in the
two kind of thing. So sometimes I have to kind
of check myself with my my nostalgia and my my
hanging on to the history of the sports so tightly
and go, look, you know it's it's it's more modern,

(02:02:46):
it's different than I remember it. But people today, the
fans that are tuning in love it. Yeah, they love it.
And so I'm I'm bullish on the sport and think
it's uh headed in a really good direction.

Speaker 3 (02:02:58):
I feel like more men, more men that not are
guilty of that though, like finding the nostalgic piece of
it used to be great, and then you go in
any genre, any category of anything, and someone's gonna have
an opinion about back then it was better because of.

Speaker 2 (02:03:09):
X, Y and Z.

Speaker 3 (02:03:10):
You brought uh, you bught a couple of times targeting
bring it back, bring it back, the old kickoff rule.

Speaker 2 (02:03:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:03:17):
Change that needs to be changed immediately, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:03:20):
But anyway, you talked about your your for the first
time your team had a car in the Daytona five
hundred that.

Speaker 3 (02:03:26):
Did the first off. Because there's a round of applause
like that and we kind of did just rush over that.

Speaker 2 (02:03:30):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (02:03:30):
That is so congrats on that, Like what is what
is the process of being like, Okay, we feel good
enough to put a car in the biggest race of.

Speaker 2 (02:03:39):
The year and all next car.

Speaker 8 (02:03:40):
So, Traveler Whiskey was a was a brand that Camel
came to us. Yeah, and so I got a shout
out travel Whiskey, shout out High Rock Vodka.

Speaker 2 (02:03:50):
Uh, shout out.

Speaker 8 (02:03:54):
Yeah. So I they came to us and they were like, hey,
they came to another program at Hendrick Motorsports and then
they were like, hey, we kind of want to do
the Daytona five hundred. Hendrick's like, hey, we don't have
any room. Were full inventory and so but my buddy
Rick Hendrick, He's like, I know, my friend Delle Junior
wants to enter the Daytona five hundred. It's a dream

(02:04:15):
of mine to enter a car as an owner in
that race once just to go. I wanted to go
to the track and do all of the things as
an owner and push a car out on the grid
and go, there's my car, and there it goes into
the race. And so they hooked us up with Traveler
and we took Traveler to Daytona and it was really emotional.

(02:04:38):
We weren't locked in. So there's cars that have franchises
or charters and they are locked into the race. They
know going down there hauling their car to the track
that they're in. There's a handful of cars in this instance.
This year there were eight or nine of us that
weren't guaranteed a spot. We were gonna have to earn
it by either qualifying really well or running well in
what's called the do which is on the duel is

(02:05:02):
two races, and if we do well in the duel,
we lock ourselves into the race. So in the duel
we're running, we didn't qualify well, so we couldn't lock
ourselves in that way. So now we got the duel
to run, and we're trying to Okay, we're gonna go
out here, and we got to beat a couple of guys.

Speaker 2 (02:05:16):
What's your stress level? Doesn't go well, this is a
live show.

Speaker 8 (02:05:21):
I was embarrassed, so we you in qualifying, all of
the industry is on pit road. All the all the
engineer's crew, chiefs, everyone that matters, and everyone that knows
anything about the sport is standing on pit road. All
the cars are lined up going out qualifying, one at
a time, and you you're with your car and there
you're pushing your car as it's getting closer and closer

(02:05:42):
to the front of the line, and right you know,
you get down to the end and you push your
car off, cranks. The motor pools away and he's gonna
go run his lap, and you stand there and you
watch him run his lap, and there's a couple of big,
giant jumbo trons and you're watching a little bit on
the jumbo Tron and he comes by and you look
at the lap and you're like, that ain't fast enough.
And now you got to walk through that entire group

(02:06:04):
of people that all know that you didn't make the
race yet, right, and it's embarrassing. You know, you got
the equipment that you think is good enough and something
y'all didn't do right didn't help the car run the
lap time, and so it's it's a bit tough kind
of walking back through that whole mob of people towards
your garage like we failed and so yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:06:25):
Like we weren't good enough. Yeah, like everybody looks at
us like, yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:06:34):
It might be similar to going into the tunnel at
an opposing stadium after a loss, right with the fans
going get out of your assholes, you.

Speaker 2 (02:06:41):
Know yea, Or just like say you're middle school or
high school and you're going to see if you made
the team or not, and all your boys are standing
in there and you're like my name on there, and
it's like you should check it out. Maybe I didn't
see it. What a feeling? Yes, kind of similar, Yeah,
you've had that happen to me.

Speaker 3 (02:07:04):
I was like, that's crazy if it's happened.

Speaker 2 (02:07:06):
But you know how like before you even go up
to look, it's like, man, what if I don't make it,
Like I'm gonna feel so stupid. You just kind of
have an idea of probably what it feels like.

Speaker 3 (02:07:14):
Yeah, it just seems okay, if you weren't good at sports,
what would it be like if I sucked at sports?
That's probably a bad feeling.

Speaker 8 (02:07:23):
So we ended up qualifying in the duel, and we
end up racing our way. We're in one of the duels.

Speaker 2 (02:07:34):
There's two.

Speaker 8 (02:07:34):
They split the field in half, so we're in a duel.
There's about twenty some cars in that race. We only
have to beat like two guys. There's two guys that
we just got to finish ahead of, and we are
in the race and they're out, and so coming coming
this duel is like fifty laps and we're coming to
two laps to go and we're not in. We're behind
those guys, and the fields a big blob, all tight together.

(02:07:57):
Within one second, they're just all together to run around
the racetrack through two and three wide. And I'm like,
Justin's our driver. I'm like, damn it, Justin, you got
to figure this out.

Speaker 2 (02:08:07):
I don't even know what he's gonna do. I don't
know what he could do.

Speaker 3 (02:08:10):
He's to yourself, Yeah, clicking in my mind, are you
saying this to him?

Speaker 1 (02:08:13):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:08:14):
I thought you hit the button, no h.

Speaker 8 (02:08:16):
And but he just figured he just figured it out.
Like in the last lap, he just just figured it out,
got the run and and and diced around and and
when we crossed the finish line, we're ahead of the
guys that we needed to beat. And so that was
when it was like almost you know, any that was
the moment where if you talked, you were gonna have
a hard time not crying. You ever been in those moments, like, yeah,

(02:08:38):
I'm not gonna cry as long as I don't have
to talk. You know, once I start talking about this,
it's gonna get hard not to cry, right, And so
I got We're doing some media and I'm like, I know,
I got about ten words before my voice is gonna crack.
So I was trying to say something like where in
the race, yes, and before I started like losing it.
But it's just that emotional and you want, I've lived this,

(02:08:58):
I've lived this sport my whole life. This was a
dream of mine and we had finally Really this is
like on a Friday, I believe, And so that night
we're like, we get the race on Sunday, we don't
have to go home. It was either you know, the
way that race turned out was like we're loading our
ship up and we're going home, uh or we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (02:09:16):
Race on Sunday.

Speaker 8 (02:09:17):
And so it was a big relief. The next couple
of days, man, we're in there looking at our car
sitting in the garage and we're massage on it and
fixing it and tweaking it and messing with it. I'm
on my hands on I'm working and peddling with the car,
and we're just we're all proud and getting it right.
And and then uh yeah, we pushed it out there

(02:09:38):
for quant for for the race on Sunday, went through
the whole pre race ceremony and just the pride of
being out there and then getting on the pit box
and watching your car pull off pit road and you're like,
we're doing it moments here right there. Yeah, it didn't matter.

Speaker 3 (02:09:56):
I've always wanted.

Speaker 8 (02:09:57):
I told my driver, it sounds like you didn't win. Nice, Yeah,
I told.

Speaker 2 (02:10:01):
My Yeah, I told.

Speaker 8 (02:10:06):
I told my driver Justin. I said, I said, hey,
you know, this is the way I am with Justin.
I'm like, all right, man, look I don't let's not
worry about Let's not worry about like a top ten,
top fifteen, that'll be a great day. Let's not even
have that conversation. I was like, let's cross the finish
line when the checker's waving. I don't care where we're at.
I want if we I just want to sit here

(02:10:27):
and watch the race and my car be out there,
and we won't have a we won't have it like
a high hopes or a or all darn you know.
We'll just say, hey, man, if we cross the finish
line when the checker flag waves, if our car has
finished the race and we ran all the laps, we're blessed.
And so it's coming down to the last couple of

(02:10:47):
we're making it through all the problems. We had a
couple of dust ups and gotten a few scrapes, but
we're car, we're patching it up. It's still pretty good.
And it comes down to the last lap and there's
a big wreck on the back straight away and he
missed the big wreck and we're standing there like, all right,
where where he's coming around? Like where are we gonna be?
And he crossed the finish line and you look at

(02:11:08):
the score monitor and his name goes book ninth place,
and you're like shit, top ten. That's awesome. You know,
not only did we come here and like get in
the race, but we ran ninth out of all out
of the fifty that tried to run it that came here.
This we're ninth. Like we're a brand new one race team.

(02:11:28):
We're like one race old. We're like we're like brand new.

Speaker 2 (02:11:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:11:31):
Every time your team has been in the Daytona five hundred,
you guys have been top ten.

Speaker 2 (02:11:34):
Yeah. How many of the programs can say, what do
you think when Dale's giving the little speech of Justin?
You think Justin's probably like.

Speaker 8 (02:11:42):
Justice sounds like he's Full's an older driver like myself,
and but he me and him both get nervous easy
like we we and so I can tell like, I
need to talk this guy down a little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:11:56):
He's nervous.

Speaker 8 (02:11:56):
Shit, he was so nervous. And he told me, he
told me like and he told me he's like, dude,
I was terrified in this moment and this moment, I
ain't never been that nervous in my life. And I'm
We've raced for championships. We won championships in the Xfinity
Series last year, and we've raced together for over a decade.
He's drove for our team at junior or sports for
a long time, won a lot of races, and he's

(02:12:17):
I'm like, he's like, dude, I was so nervous. There's
so much pressure, so much responsibility, being the driver of
your car for the dayt on a five runners for
the first time. He was like, it was awful, and
so I knew that. Like in that moment, I was like, hey, no,
let's not even worry about where we're gonna run. Let's
not even set a goal or an expectation and worry
about being pleased or upset. Let's just say, hey, cross

(02:12:37):
the finish line, check or flagg.

Speaker 2 (02:12:39):
Let's feel good about that. And that's it.

Speaker 8 (02:12:42):
I don't I don't want anything else. I wanted him
to know, like, I don't want anything else. You go
out there, you have your own expectations, that's you, But
you don't worry about me. Don't feel like everybody here
in the pits is going, hey, fucker right, come on,
justin when you're you gonna pull the trick?

Speaker 2 (02:12:58):
Let oh you know, hey, that's a hell of a speech.
That's a speech.

Speaker 8 (02:13:03):
I just wanted to let him off the hook.

Speaker 2 (02:13:04):
That's a fire speech.

Speaker 3 (02:13:05):
Yeah, justin he's been racing you for so long? Has
he ever wrote raced the day to.

Speaker 2 (02:13:09):
Five hundred before a long time ago? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:13:11):
Okay, I mean that's gotta be what a feeling man
and him, I mean that I bet receiving. I pictured
that speech as him and he's already in the car
in my head not yet, but no, I'm just telling
you where my head. Moments ago, it's like they're about
to start the race and before he tails off, you're
giving him.

Speaker 1 (02:13:26):
This like this.

Speaker 8 (02:13:28):
It was literally right before he climbed in, and I
was like, just don't worry you just go out there
and do you.

Speaker 2 (02:13:33):
Man.

Speaker 8 (02:13:34):
I'm not I have zero expectation, but I do want
you to finish. So don't like, don't get wrecked, don't
get wrecked early, don't don't wreck out right.

Speaker 3 (02:13:41):
And there was that one, uh last little part of
the race where there's a big.

Speaker 8 (02:13:45):
Big, big crash and he weaved through.

Speaker 3 (02:13:47):
Really other than that, it was pretty smooth.

Speaker 2 (02:13:49):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:13:49):
It's a couple of dust ups, couple dust up, close wreck,
couple close mentioned dust ups. A couple of times I
kind of went pry a little bit more.

Speaker 8 (02:13:55):
There was just some wrecks that happened where he had
to kind of knife through and and maybe you got
dinged up a little bit on the corner of the car,
got beat up a little bit, but it was still
in relatively good shape when we finished.

Speaker 3 (02:14:06):
That's awesome.

Speaker 8 (02:14:07):
We'll take it. That paid good bet.

Speaker 3 (02:14:10):
Yes, is this whisky company sticking on?

Speaker 1 (02:14:14):
Well?

Speaker 8 (02:14:14):
We we only had plans to run that one race.

Speaker 2 (02:14:16):
That was it.

Speaker 8 (02:14:18):
They're excited and happy with everything that happened. We'll see
what happens. It's a dicey thing, so there's some we
had a little damage to fix, but we did. We
fixed it. It's a it's a little bit of a
dicey thing. Because me and my wife started the High
Rock Vodka right and that's our we have equity in it,
and we're and Traveler came on to Travers like, hey,

(02:14:39):
we want to help you realize this dream. So I
had to call my friends at High Rock Vodka and say, hey, y'all,
mind if I do this thing with this whiskey. And
they're like, well, it's not really a vodka, so it's
not competing directly. And they're like, we don't want to
get in your way. We don't want to get in
the way of you realizing this dream, this is really
how this is only gonna it's only going to happen
because you know, the the traveler came in with the

(02:15:01):
with the check that it was gonna take. It's gonna
take a lot of money to go to Daytona, and
so they high rock folks were good, Yeah, to let
me do that.

Speaker 2 (02:15:09):
We can blame it if you want. But how much
does it cost to get into the dayta to.

Speaker 8 (02:15:13):
Race in the Daytona five hundred? You're gonna need three
quarters of a million dollars?

Speaker 3 (02:15:17):
Okay, all right? Three quarters of a million dollars?

Speaker 2 (02:15:22):
All right minimum? You got that math? Yep? We want
to say it out loud. Yeah, yeah, we can just
leave it, you know by guns, Yeah, no doubt. Having
the Earnhart last name, you're obviously involved with a lot
of different things off the track, on the track, everything

(02:15:42):
in between. What is the first thing you kind of
dove into to where it felt like this is mine
outside of having carrying them because you carry the legacy
of your old man and you have the earn Hard name,
you're Daleer and Hard Junior or the sun. What was
the first time you realize and felt like it since
of pride. All Right, this is a thing that I
see as like something I've done.

Speaker 8 (02:16:02):
Probably Junior Motorsports, the race team that we have, we've
ran in the Infinity Series, which is again that's the
kind of the college level. We've ran there for seems
like eighteen years, a long time.

Speaker 2 (02:16:16):
We've won ninety.

Speaker 8 (02:16:18):
Races, five championships. Me and my sister run that together.
And she's hands on. My sister is uh, she is
a she's tough, really really tough business woman, savvy and
and so like in negotiations, she never loses. That's that's her.

(02:16:41):
And so she's tough. She knows what the value is. Yeah,
she knows the value of everything and understands what what's
realistic and just sharp. And so I'm very fortunate that
that I that I got her as a teammate, and
so we have ran Junior Rotter Sports together. Our dream
or our idea, the idea was that me and her

(02:17:01):
would be involved at the I, which was my dad's
race team, Dell and Harten Corporated. Our thought was that
that would be what we would do all of our lives, right,
and so a lot of things happened. Dad passed away
and we ended up leaving the team over the course
of six or seven years, and so that didn't happen,
and we started this other team and started it with

(02:17:22):
one race car, four three or four employees, very modest,
and we've grown it into a really successful deal. We
love being at that level where we graduate people up
into the top series. Right, So drivers come through our program,
crew chiefs, mechanics, engineers, even people in our office marketing, licensing.

(02:17:44):
They all come and work at our business, get educated,
get a great experience, get a reputation, and then they
get a call from a cut team. It sucks to
lose great people, but it's also like a big reward,
like we're doing it right. We're doing something right where
people are wanting to hire our good people. And so
when a driver gets a phone call, they'll call me.
I remember one guy called me and he's like, I

(02:18:06):
got some tough news. He's like, one of the Cup
teams called me and I got to do it. I
was like, that's not tough news. That's what we That's
like winning a race. That's that's a victory for you.
For me, that's why we did this. I did this
so that you would get this chance, not that you're
going to be a career Infinity race racer for me
right hopefully if everything works out. Most of our drivers
are only there for a year or two and they

(02:18:27):
move on to the Cup level and race on Sunday,
and so that's that's a fun thing to do. I
can look in the Cup field today, the field that
runs on Sunday, I can look in that field and
there's at least a third of the field that raced
for me on Saturday at some point in their career.
There's mechanics, crew chiefs, tons of people in the industry

(02:18:49):
that have came through our race ting to get to
the top level.

Speaker 2 (02:18:53):
That's fun.

Speaker 8 (02:18:55):
So I'm proud of that. That's mine.

Speaker 2 (02:18:58):
So do you ever want to get your race team
into the Cup Show?

Speaker 8 (02:19:02):
And so to race full time in the Cup Series,
you need a charter, which is basically a franchise. Look
think about it as like a franchise. You there are
only three dozen of those NASCAR has. There's a rule
between there's an agreement between the teams and the NASCAR
that there is only a certain amount of charter. So
to acquire one, you got to buy one from somebody

(02:19:23):
and they're selling for anywhere from twenty five million to
forty million bucks.

Speaker 2 (02:19:26):
And so you got to.

Speaker 8 (02:19:27):
Buy the charter and then you got to buy the cars.
They're three hundred and fifty thousand dollars apiece. You got
to have an engine program, you gotta you know, you
gotta upscale employees. So to race full time in the
Cup Series, you might be able to do it on
twenty million dollars a year. So it's one hundred million
dollars to probably get started to buy a charter or

(02:19:48):
two and then have the funding annually to run at
that level. You got to have a massive commitment from
corporate America somewhere to be able to fund the team
annually and long term. And so our yeah, to go
from where we are now and our business model is
a massive jump and a huge commitment. Scary sounds like, Yeah,

(02:20:10):
I mean a hundred million dollars to get started as wild. Yeah,
you've been close, is anybody like? We've had some really
fun We've had some really cool conversations with some mass
We've had a we had a conversation with a mat
with a with a with one of the largest or
most popular sports franchises in the in the in the country.
So I mean there's interest out so the interest that

(02:20:33):
I believe a team like mine or a person like
me to be able to get into theirs, it's gonna
have to be it's gonna have to be like an
investment firm or a current like a current entity that's
owning sports teams, right and so.

Speaker 2 (02:20:57):
Yeah, a couple yeah, like I see a couple of
miles right now.

Speaker 8 (02:21:01):
Yeah, And so there's been there's interest. There's in the
the investment firm thing. It's kind of new, but it's
getting it's gaining in some popularity. There's been a lot
of there's been a lot of these sort of groups
that have started to invest in in race teams. So
like certain race teams have taken on investors and sold
equity in the ownership of the program. Uh So that's

(02:21:23):
kind of promising for somebody like me that's like, hey,
I've got the I know how to run a race team, Kelly,
and I know how to operate this thing and be successful.
We know how to do it and not lose money,
and we how to be successful. We have a lot
of equity in our in our name and our reputation,
and so we're I think I feel like we're very
appealing for anybody that's like, hey, I'm brand new to this.

(02:21:45):
I don't know anything about racing, but I think owing
a charter is going to be very valuable. So the
charters have doubled in value annually, So like if you
bought a charter six years ago, you might spend six
to twelve million dollars. Now they're worth forty million dollars,
thirty five, thirty million dollars. I believe charters in ten
years will sell for eighty to one hundred million dollars apiece.

(02:22:09):
So I mean, I think if I was a person
that had that kind of money to throw around buying
a charter or investing just in a charter, guy, getting
some equity in a charter would be easy, an easy, yes, right,
because that is not gonna lose value. It's think about
Dan Snyder bought the Washington Commanders in whenever whatever year,

(02:22:30):
not eighty nine or whatever for six hundred and eight
hundred million dollars and sold it for six billion. And
so NASCAR charters are similar as they are a franchise,
a sports franchise, and now they won't ever get into
the billions or maybe not even into the you know,
you know, five hundred to seven hundred million dollar range,
but they will increase in value from from thirty to

(02:22:52):
forty million dollars now. I think realistically it's one hundred
and fifty one hundred and fifty million dollar value. I
would put that on I would I would say, I
would confidently expect that to be the value of one
in ten years. And so why wouldn't you if you
had that kind of money invest in it now because
it's like.

Speaker 2 (02:23:08):
You need some some busting with the boys backing open
high interest rates. Yeah, this is our team we're talking about.

Speaker 8 (02:23:21):
Serious.

Speaker 2 (02:23:22):
That's awesome, man. Congratulations.

Speaker 8 (02:23:24):
Yeah, it ain't happened yet.

Speaker 2 (02:23:26):
Yeah, it hadn't happened yet.

Speaker 3 (02:23:27):
Yeah, truly, congratulations on it happening in the very near future.

Speaker 2 (02:23:30):
That'd be nice.

Speaker 7 (02:23:31):
No.

Speaker 2 (02:23:31):
One just very surface level stuff about those conversations. I know,
it seems like it's very hard to just even be
in those rooms and have those conversations.

Speaker 8 (02:23:39):
Yeah, I mean, I've we've had some fun conversations with
some people that were interested in but it's got to
be perfect.

Speaker 7 (02:23:45):
You can't.

Speaker 8 (02:23:46):
I'm not a risk taker with my finances. Yeah, and
so like when I had kids, I was like, all right,
I gotta be a little smarter. Like I was going
to bounce my last check. That was the way I
was going to live, right when I was a single
dude just raising hell and in my life, I was
like I don't want to hit leaving ship behind. But
then when I had kids, I was like, now it
ain't mine no more. Yea, all theirs right right now,

(02:24:08):
and now I'm spending their money.

Speaker 2 (02:24:09):
They're a massive curve ball for them sitting there getting wheel.
By the way, your guys' facility is so badass. It
is like going out there, there's people, like, there's people
out front waiting for you to just get done with
working an.

Speaker 3 (02:24:26):
Equity of the nun And it's like, yeah, we walked out.
We were there on a Tuesday and there's a bunch
of people just went out there to catch a glimpse gate.

Speaker 2 (02:24:32):
Yeah. Yeah, do you think he's in there right now?
And we just walked in. You thought we were royalty.
I wonder like.

Speaker 8 (02:24:39):
Podcast, I'll say this, I'll say I'll admit this. Your
your podcast and your your brand is incredible. And do
people not know where you are physically right now? Did
they not? If they knew where you were, they too,
and if they knew when you recorded, if it was
just if it was a consistent like hey, we record
every Tuesday, there would people be standing out there like.

Speaker 2 (02:25:02):
We appreciate that deal. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:25:04):
I mean, there's been a couple of people not up
there anymore. We had a Tannehill signed like somebody broke
in on one of our old places we were at,
broke in and didn't steal anything, but left a guests.

Speaker 2 (02:25:15):
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There's another cat. He'd be going to work and he'd
notice that when the doors slid up, he'd see the
bus inside. He's like, so, I know you guys have
been here and I was just waiting to get like
an off day or something. He would just go and
just sit and wait, just kind of.

Speaker 3 (02:25:33):
Guessed ran when he was the GM for the he
just sent somebody over here one day.

Speaker 2 (02:25:36):
Yeah. He just random.

Speaker 3 (02:25:37):
As a ram, told as we can come by, okay,
no text or nothing, just like showed up.

Speaker 2 (02:25:44):
But it is cool though. It was kind of it
was cool to witness just people. I think that was
during one of your guys' weekends too. Well, the race
was in Charlotte. Yeah, okay, that matters.

Speaker 8 (02:25:54):
Yeah, comes into town. But they know we record on
a specific day. Yeah, they know that is that each
time you record every Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (02:26:01):
Yeah, you got people sitting there waiting. You're just sitting there.

Speaker 3 (02:26:05):
But even your studio is awesome, like you, I love
the set up the back of the viewers to see.
Then there's the window with your dad's car sitting right
out there, and you can see all the guys working
like it's a It's an awesome setup.

Speaker 2 (02:26:17):
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Speaker 8 (02:26:24):
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You're in the game of collecting things. Has there ever
been a car you sold that you regret selling? Hell?

Speaker 8 (02:28:35):
No, I regret buying cars. Uh that's like crazy. You know,
everything with wheels as soon as you buy it it,
it appreciates like half as soon as you drive it
off the lot.

Speaker 2 (02:28:45):
But I shouldn't say that being in the car business.

Speaker 8 (02:28:48):
But oh man, I bought a Calway Corvette that was
kind of a thing back in the day, Calway corvettes.

Speaker 2 (02:28:55):
I bought one of those, and I, oh so it
was the dumbest thing.

Speaker 8 (02:29:00):
It for a while and finally sold it for like
a fraction of what I paid for it. But uh,
my buddy had a motorcycle and dropped his motorcycle in
the nose of this cowboy Callaway corvette and the foot
peg went straight through the nose and he, luckily he
owned the body shop, fixed it up for me.

Speaker 2 (02:29:16):
But just a bad experience. But no, I mean.

Speaker 8 (02:29:22):
I had a a Biscayne that I maybe should have
hung onto. Uh kind of a kind of a rare car.
That's my Calaway that the bike fell on. That's it.

Speaker 2 (02:29:34):
Yes, I was stupid to buy that.

Speaker 8 (02:29:37):
I did not need it. And it had this like
it had this little weird noise in the in the
rear one of the wheels of break calip or something
like a tick that wouldn't go away that I wouldn't
smart enough to really fuck with.

Speaker 3 (02:29:51):
But like.

Speaker 8 (02:29:55):
Green Truck. This is my daily driver, that Green truck
right there, and it's forty eight and I did a
lot of own I did a lot of my own
work on this truck. And so it has a it
has a modern Vortec engine in it. It's nothing crazier special,
but like I put them rails and wood rails on
the back. But in the inside of this truck, I

(02:30:16):
think it was kind of during COVID, I decided to
cut the inside and redo it. Myself and I put
some pictures on the Internet and stuff of me working
on it. But I did a lot of woodwork inside
and putting new inserts on the seats, and my two
year old grabbed a sharpie and ruined the brand new inserts,
so I had to take the seat back out and
redo it.

Speaker 2 (02:30:35):
But I did.

Speaker 8 (02:30:36):
The console in the floorboard is I made it out
of sheet metal from one of my bud cars, So
it's like at bud Wiser, like a half of the
bud Wiser logo in the floorboard of the console.

Speaker 2 (02:30:50):
Awesome.

Speaker 8 (02:30:50):
It's just really kind of a grunge truck, you know
what we call a gruns truck.

Speaker 2 (02:30:54):
But is that the best daily driver?

Speaker 6 (02:30:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (02:30:58):
That's the best gane.

Speaker 2 (02:31:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:31:00):
I kind of wish i'd kept the this game.

Speaker 2 (02:31:02):
There you go.

Speaker 8 (02:31:03):
It kind of cool car that was like twenty years ago.

Speaker 2 (02:31:06):
I sold that.

Speaker 8 (02:31:08):
But I don't know, man, I I always was weird
with my I was I was.

Speaker 2 (02:31:13):
I did some foolish stuff with money.

Speaker 8 (02:31:14):
No, I'm not gonna lie, but I also was kind
of oddly tight and I my the buddies, my buddies
that I raced with back in the day always joked
with me about being a tight ass, and so like,
I if I I got like twelve cars, right, I'm
a guy, I'm a car guy, so I'm gonna have
a little collection, right, and I'm okay, that's okay. But

(02:31:37):
I got twelve cars. And if I see something that
I liked, and I still do this today, like, if
I see something, I gotta be willing to sell one
of my twelve and buy it, like I won't buy
it and add to it, I'll be like, do I
want it bad enough that I'll sell one of these?
And if I will, I'll sell one of these? All right,
man from the rock.

Speaker 2 (02:31:56):
We had fun.

Speaker 8 (02:31:56):
That was good.

Speaker 2 (02:31:57):
All Right, you're out some car owners out there. I
don't want to give you a try.

Speaker 8 (02:32:01):
Yeah, yeah, there's I got an umbrella and everything's got
to fit under it. And if it don't, you know,
I'm not. I don't want to be. I don't know
I shouldn't. I'm probably overthinking it, but I was just
didn't want to be ridiculous and have like cars everywhere
because it wire. It bugs me to have a car
that I don't drive and that one time I get

(02:32:23):
in it, it batters dead fucking tire shape because they're
square because it's been sitting too long or their break
shake or something. It doesn't drive well. Right, I'm like,
all right, I don't have that. I love this car,
but I'm not driving it. It's not it's not doing
itself any good. I'm selling the something getting rid of it.

Speaker 2 (02:32:42):
What's been your biggest impulsive buy? Impulsive? Where you've spoiged too?
We're like, that was it? That was? That was dumb?

Speaker 8 (02:32:51):
Oh man, I mean the Callaway Corvette was stupid. That
was another one that was That was over one hundred grand.

Speaker 2 (02:32:58):
That's dumb.

Speaker 8 (02:33:00):
A green truck that other green that's not square body.
I want to brag on that sun bitch.

Speaker 2 (02:33:04):
Look at that thing.

Speaker 8 (02:33:07):
Look at that them plaid fucking insert on that seat.
That ship's badass.

Speaker 2 (02:33:12):
I love that square body trucks.

Speaker 7 (02:33:13):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (02:33:14):
They're coming back, coming back in a big way.

Speaker 8 (02:33:16):
Oh they're back.

Speaker 2 (02:33:18):
They hell.

Speaker 3 (02:33:18):
You gotta send me the newspapers because I haven't seen that.

Speaker 2 (02:33:20):
Well.

Speaker 8 (02:33:21):
If I take this bad boy out, it turns some heads.

Speaker 2 (02:33:28):
Just driving to see watching everybody.

Speaker 3 (02:33:30):
Yeah, it's always a construction workers too, on the side
the road do.

Speaker 2 (02:33:34):
This, and.

Speaker 8 (02:33:36):
I don't know that I have like a I don't
know that I have a bad regret on on like
a big, big time financial thing. But this is one
thing my wife and I talk about is she'll be like, hey,
our couch is destroyed. Like we've we've you know, kids
and dogs and all the couches just fucked up. It's
time for a new couch. All right, let's get in

(02:33:58):
and she'll show me, Hey, how about this one. And
I'll be like, damn, that's you know, a couple thousand bucks.
And she's like, oh, that's what couch has cost. And
I'm like, that's a lot of money. Man, I can't
believe couches cost that much. You know, your wife will
show you stuff. There's in a way that's like a
normal price for that, right, that's way too hot. Yeah,
And but if a new So I'm a gamer, and

(02:34:18):
I'm a PC gamer, and so like if you know,
the fifty nineties just came out and there's like a
massive shortage, and so I'm sitting there going I'm looking
at eBay and I'm like, god, dang, they won't five
thousand dollars for that fifty ninety in video card. My
buddy knows a guy at the microcenter. Maybe I can
get one from the microcenter nine days. They're coming in

(02:34:42):
nine days. They might get me one in nine days.
I'm like like feeding on this, like yeah, this, uh,
you know, or new monitors. You know, I gotta get
this new monitor. Man, the refresh rate or the you know,
it's it's over, it's like two hundred and you know
whatever mega hurts, I gotta get that's better than what
I got. And that's gonna be like a thousand dollars.
I got triple screens on my racing rig, triple screens,

(02:35:04):
so you know, a thousand dollars a monitor. And I'll
be like, Amy, Amy, I'm thinking about building a new computer.
Gonna get me a fifty niney new new CPU, new motherboard,
new case. And she's like, how much is that gonna cost?
I'm like, I don't know. Four thousand dollars And she's like,
and you wrote to raise hell about this couch, but
you'll just go buy it, you would. I would literally

(02:35:27):
just go buy this and not even tell her, right
and and but I want to know how much the
couch costs. Yeah, So that's how I operate.

Speaker 3 (02:35:33):
That sounds like every guy ever you're telling me the story.
I'm thinking of multiple conversations with my wife and I have,
yeah all the time about things where I'm like.

Speaker 2 (02:35:42):
Dude, Charles brings up a couch.

Speaker 3 (02:35:43):
I'm just thinking, I feel like this couch here, I
feel like such an asshole.

Speaker 8 (02:35:48):
And we might have talked about this on the show,
but man, when I when we were going, when we
were booking, uh, we did a planner for our honeymoon
and we went to Hawaii and when that lady came men,
you know the planner plans this trip. Right, we're gonna
stay and we're gonna be in Hawaii two weeks and
we're gonna be at this place, this hotel and this hotel.

(02:36:09):
When that lady came back with the quote, uh, I
was like, ain't no way. I was like, what room
are we talking about here? I gotta see, God, they
gotta be other rooms. And I'm going to I go
to Amy and I'm like, why can't we do why
can't we do these rooms? These rooms wayless? Wait, we
will be in the room. We're just gonna sleep in
the room. She's like, come on, this is your honeymoon.

(02:36:30):
Are you doing this?

Speaker 2 (02:36:31):
Once literally preaching right now.

Speaker 8 (02:36:33):
It was awful. And I look back on it now
and like it really didn't matter. But man, I was
turning my guts looking at that price in those rooms
and I'm like, I'm like, we don't need this. We
can stay in this room there's and it's nice. I
don't know I was.

Speaker 2 (02:36:49):
That was tough.

Speaker 3 (02:36:49):
I always hit it with budget stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:36:51):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:36:51):
When we I built my house, I like had a
budget and I was like this is I god a
p too, but yeah, we have a budget that's like, hey,
this is going to be this is how much money
we're going to spend to build this house. So I
would go to the people and be like, hey, when
we're looking at fixtures, show me what's in the budget,
low end, high end, but it has to stay in
the budget. And every meeting I would go to, whether

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it was like I don't know, plaster on the walls
or something like that, they would show me two things
or three things. But then they have one in the
corner over here that wasn't on display, but it was
right there, and either me or my wife, probably more
time than not, me would be like, well, what's well,
what's that one?

Speaker 2 (02:37:28):
What is that right?

Speaker 3 (02:37:28):
They're like, well, you don't want to know about that.
One's actually outside the budget. And then there's always this
game that you play. It's like, okay, well if we
do that, then we can move a little something over here.
It's just how like the male mind compartmentalizes how to
spend money. At the end of the day, you're doing
it the same way.

Speaker 2 (02:37:43):
But it's just fighting a way. We have to justify God.
To justify it is us. It's a pain in the ass.

Speaker 8 (02:37:50):
I remember when so we have we have a banquet
for our championship at the end of the year. This
is back when me and Amy we were just gotten
pretty serious. And Uh, I'm like, all right, man, we're
getting ready to go to the banquet. I'm getting whipped
out my tucks. I'm aware to I wear the same
freak if it'll fit. I wear the same damn tucks.

Speaker 2 (02:38:09):
For twelve years.

Speaker 8 (02:38:10):
I don't give a ship.

Speaker 2 (02:38:11):
I don't need new tucks. I'm wearing this thing once
a year ago.

Speaker 8 (02:38:14):
And so but she's like, I'm gonna get a gown,
and uh, I'm like, yeah, we're gonna get you a gown.
We're gonna get a gown. I ain't never bought a gown.
You know, I don't know gown prices. Yeah, and she
comes with this gown price and I was like, what
the hell, what the hell? I mean, it was crazy.
I would have never even came close if I had
to guess. And uh, man, I'm on the phone with

(02:38:35):
my sister. I'm like, you believe this and she's like,
she's like, that's what gowns cost. I'm like for real,
She's like yes.

Speaker 1 (02:38:42):
I was like all right.

Speaker 3 (02:38:44):
I was like, damn, man, that makes me feel better
when you know what it costs. When when you first
see the price, like what the hell are we doing?

Speaker 8 (02:38:50):
And then she gets the gown. We go, she looks amazing,
and I mean again, like this was years ago. I
feel I know I was, I know I was, but
she looked amazing. And we get back and I'm like
it can't it dawned on me.

Speaker 1 (02:39:07):
I was like so uh.

Speaker 8 (02:39:10):
She's like, I'm gonna put this away and I was like,
you don't wear it again.

Speaker 2 (02:39:14):
She goes, no, never wear it again.

Speaker 8 (02:39:16):
I was like, you don't. You don't sell it, because
she would sell some stuff from time to time. She
had a little I was like, you don't sell it down.
I can't sell it She's like, hell no, I me's
selling this gown. I'm like, man, I don't understand this
at all. Like you you know, you spent all this money,
You'll wear it once and then you're gonna put it
away and keep it and waiting dress gowns, gowns, ball

(02:39:37):
gowns and stuff like that. I was blown away the
first time I paid for a gown. It was another
big giant wake up. It was like the couch story
where I was. I called, I called back up. I
was like, hey, I called my sister.

Speaker 2 (02:39:49):
I was like, this gown.

Speaker 8 (02:39:50):
She's like, yeah, that's that's reasonable. I was like, horseship,
there's no way.

Speaker 3 (02:39:55):
You brought the tux about having uh, just like one
one tux your whole life. And when when I was playing,
I was three hundred and sixteen pounds. Like we'd always,
you know, every Sunday, guys want to get the fits
going and stuff like that. So every couple of years
I would go get a couple of suits. But I
would always go to my suit guys and be like, hey,
when I obviously we're like eventually i'ma have to retire
and lose weight, like I'll be able to bring it

(02:40:16):
all in where I can still wear these and like, oh.

Speaker 2 (02:40:17):
Yeah, no problem.

Speaker 3 (02:40:19):
And now I'm like sixty pounds less than I was before.
And I brought these suits to people and they're like,
there's no way you can't. So I've spent an absurd
amount of money on clothes that just sit in my closet.
I look at him, like I could never wear this again.
I had a bunch of my buddies that were still playing.
I was like, hey, come over the house. I said,
like this probably closet. Besides like this suit and that
suit that the suit I got married in. And then

(02:40:40):
I have like a customer and has like my daughter's
names on it. They're like, uh, the dazzled or whatever.
I was like, yeah, that suit too. I was like,
you guys, take whatever you want. And they just ransacked
the whole thing. It was like Ruse and Raidings came
over and did all that. But some of the money
you spend, yeah, just on dumb shit. Like I look back,
I'm just like, what was I buying suit's for?

Speaker 2 (02:41:00):
Who cares for?

Speaker 1 (02:41:01):
What?

Speaker 3 (02:41:02):
A photo.

Speaker 2 (02:41:05):
Is? Exactly what it's for because you don't even I
don't know how you were, but I never even fully
put the suit back on, like even on game day.

Speaker 3 (02:41:12):
No on, once you get the photo to get on
the plane. Yeah, would you like loosen the tietdet. No
one talks about suits like you see like these people
like you go on pinchers and I want to get
a nice little suits. You start looking like ideas and
you see all these like suave gentlemen with like the
suits perfectly laid out when I put that ship. When

(02:41:34):
I put that ship on, it's like it looks good
for forty five seconds and then it starts like wrinkling
up at the top or I get a little a
little sweaty, so I move it.

Speaker 2 (02:41:43):
It's never tucked in long enough. It's just a pain
the ass.

Speaker 8 (02:41:45):
My biggest problem with pants or suits is the calves.

Speaker 2 (02:41:49):
Like I can't it can't.

Speaker 8 (02:41:50):
My calves are I don't know. I have problems with
the pant being too tight. Yeah, bro of opposite issues
and so when I.

Speaker 2 (02:42:03):
Yeah I haven't seen the sun and.

Speaker 3 (02:42:12):
Let me get this, Yeah yeah, you got nice calves though,
got a nice cab me. I've always had these prey legs.

Speaker 2 (02:42:21):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:42:21):
When the National Geographic getting chased by line like I.

Speaker 8 (02:42:23):
Get a new suit, get it dry, clean. Now, I
can't wear it because it's got a hold of my
cave man. I can't so comfortable. That's always to push
it down.

Speaker 2 (02:42:30):
Are you Are you jeans all year round, even in
the summer, I mean he answered the question for us.

Speaker 8 (02:42:35):
I think I'm in pants all the time, but I
mean as white as white as I am. You gotta
be careful on the color of short you wear because
it can make the whiteness even whiter. So you got
to be like a very tan kind of off white.

Speaker 3 (02:42:47):
But you know Dale when he takes the shirt off,
like his face and his face and like from the
shoulder down, he's got a tan. He's done out there,
even in things out in the summertime.

Speaker 8 (02:42:58):
I'm in as a broadcaster, I gotta wear I can't
wear jeans, so I wear a lot of Lulu.

Speaker 2 (02:43:05):
Oh. I've seen that they've had some some stuff come
in about how it happened. Their material lowers your T
levels TA levels.

Speaker 3 (02:43:12):
Yeah, I know what you should look into. It's true Classic. Hey, well,
can I ask you a question?

Speaker 2 (02:43:18):
Ask me, dude, what do you love about the true
Classic brand? What don't I love about the True Classic brand?
The first thing that comes to mind is their T shirts.
They fit snug, they fit right, and your boy, I
got a little extra going around the what do they
call it, the muffin top, the spare tire, Yeah, the
spare tire around the right above the belt. True Classic.

(02:43:39):
It grabs you perfectly in your chest, grabs you perfectly
in your arms to where it gives you a little
leeway down by the low tire, so it gives you
a perception of, oh, this guy's body compass went down.
That is what I love about True Classic. Their jeans
also nice, snug, but you can also have a looser option,
and they're very breathable so you can bend. You could

(02:44:00):
hit low astograss squats if you wanted to. Absolutely, But
those are the things that jump out when you ask
me what I love True Classic. What would you say
you love about True Classic?

Speaker 3 (02:44:08):
My favorite thing about you. I love what you said
about the T shirts. And I love how there's no
branding on it. I think a lot of times people
get mixed up with the big bold letterings on things.
If you want to keep it true and you want
to keep it classic, the best thing to put on
your body, no branding, keep it simple, keep it simple,
the kiss method. That's what I love about it, Dude.
I love these genes. You talk about astrograss like I

(02:44:28):
wear these babies every single day. Yeah, I got mobility
out the yazoo. You can't mess around with these bad boys.

Speaker 2 (02:44:33):
And the shirt.

Speaker 3 (02:44:34):
You said it perfectly, like you take your shirt off,
you look yourself in the million and be like, Okay, yeah,
I can see where I've let myself go in a
couple of areas.

Speaker 2 (02:44:41):
You put the shirt on.

Speaker 3 (02:44:42):
Then all of a sudden, You're.

Speaker 2 (02:44:42):
Like, maybe I can have that cheeseburger.

Speaker 3 (02:44:44):
Maybe I can have those little sneaky treats in the
pantry late, late late at night when I've had a
couple of extra vitamins. Because this T shirt makes everything
just look a little bit better, dude, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:44:54):
It does simple, look good, feel good. True Classic. Back
to this episode, all right, True Classic.

Speaker 3 (02:45:01):
They have a new material that just came out that
is Rivals lou Lemon. Like it's got that stretchy but
like still fits good kind I feel, And their stuff
is elite.

Speaker 8 (02:45:10):
That's like the the new That's what that's like kind
of been. The saving grace is the jeans and all
the ship that stretches. Yeah, so it kind of because
my body changes all year, Like I'll go up and
down ten pounds all year long. Down now holidays and
ship like that and November that's when. Yeah, you get
to buy the pants on. I need my ship to

(02:45:31):
be able to work with me. Yeah, move a little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:45:33):
Yeah, he would be incredible with true classic stuff on. Yeah.
I mean that's his style on his flow. It's a
very clean. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:45:42):
I like I kind of like cut, Like I don't
like a tapered pant. It got that oh yeah, kind
of the little go for the loose.

Speaker 2 (02:45:50):
You seem like a big time boot cut guy. Yeah.
I can't wait for that long they can get that
baggy cowboy look.

Speaker 3 (02:45:59):
I mean, I ain't gonna be no queer. Yeah, you
got your tapered pants. He looked at me, look me
up now the first time and let me know what
is this guy up to.

Speaker 2 (02:46:08):
It's like, oh, you gotta check out these metro sexuals
with them pants and jeans. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:46:14):
Yeah, you big boot guy though, you like the boots
no boots?

Speaker 2 (02:46:17):
I just like, whye fair enough? Yeah, Like case you.

Speaker 3 (02:46:20):
Fall off of skyscraper, can parachute down something nice? I
feel you gotta stay safe out here.

Speaker 2 (02:46:26):
We need you.

Speaker 8 (02:46:28):
When you sit down and your pants come up and
you see your ankles, yes, sir, like.

Speaker 2 (02:46:37):
You if you got some good cash though, and then
you got some good ankles. Yeah, you see my legs.

Speaker 8 (02:46:44):
I don't need nobody to see my ankles.

Speaker 2 (02:46:46):
You don't need none of that. You'll need anybody seeing
them legs.

Speaker 8 (02:46:49):
I know what am I gonna do. It's too late.
I'm fifty years old. Like getting a tank or any
kind of I'm past the point.

Speaker 2 (02:46:55):
Like when you go to Hawaii or you wearing pants
on the beach.

Speaker 3 (02:46:58):
Yeah, they make it. They make a special swim soup for.

Speaker 2 (02:47:04):
You know. You know Dale Dale walked.

Speaker 3 (02:47:05):
Into his wife's house, like his house like a year ago,
with the pants that you can unzip. Looking how nice
these are? These are pretty crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:47:12):
He probably wears pajama pants too, probably switch You do
strike me as a guy with the buttons to like
the button pajama shirt?

Speaker 8 (02:47:20):
No Christmas? Yeah, I kind of do that.

Speaker 3 (02:47:24):
How elide is the matching family pajamas for Christmaer?

Speaker 2 (02:47:27):
Really that is nice?

Speaker 8 (02:47:28):
Well, you've got a couple of sets of matching pajamas, but.

Speaker 2 (02:47:30):
I don't know the brand. But yeah, so the matching pajamas.

Speaker 8 (02:47:34):
For christ, what do you what do you mean pajama pants?
What's wrong with pajama pants?

Speaker 2 (02:47:39):
Yet? Nothing? We know you do, there's nothing wrong with them.

Speaker 8 (02:47:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:47:43):
Man's she showed us the leg It's like, okay, he
doesn't show his legs because legit, light bulb.

Speaker 8 (02:47:48):
I can get if I'm not leaving the house, I'm
not putting I'm putting sweatpants on or pajama pants.

Speaker 2 (02:47:55):
Yeah, big sweatpants guy. But I'm saying when I sleep,
it's either I'm just in my underwear. I got shorts on. Yeah,
I'm a underwear guy.

Speaker 8 (02:48:01):
I'm an underwear guy.

Speaker 2 (02:48:02):
Yeah, okay, I tell you that's why I thought I
don't sleep in pajama pants. I would I would have
guessed you can't. Like you.

Speaker 3 (02:48:09):
Still, I'm still not selling the button thing. If you
get in the if you get in the bed, sure,
what are you pulling up on this computer? You get
into bed with pajama pants on, they go, they rise
up to your knees. You gotta you're always pushing them down.

Speaker 2 (02:48:20):
I can't have that. No, that is a that is
a fight. Man. The pajama pants should we dive into
the most important thing of this episode? Can I please pee? Yeah?
I might du You need to go ahead, baus you.

Speaker 8 (02:48:33):
Wait, I'm gonna show you all my ship.

Speaker 2 (02:48:35):
Yeah. Preparation.

Speaker 8 (02:48:38):
That's where what is it where preparation meets the opportunity
to you?

Speaker 2 (02:48:43):
But I texted him.

Speaker 3 (02:48:46):
And then you post on Discord you're doing your.

Speaker 2 (02:48:48):
Playbook, and I was like, dude, that's awesome. Yeah, like, hey,
we got to get a game in and you're like,
oh no, no, I don't play. I would.

Speaker 8 (02:48:58):
I would, I just wouldn't. I didn't want to make it.
I didn't want to. I didn't want that to be
the dominant thing about this.

Speaker 2 (02:49:05):
This this, in this meeting, brother, I love simulation, like
the fact that you you're simulating the.

Speaker 8 (02:49:12):
Game, right, No, fuck, we play it, man, you play.
I play the games.

Speaker 2 (02:49:18):
Oh so when you're winning, you're you're doing us, Yes, sir,
I thought you were saying you don't play. No, I don't.

Speaker 8 (02:49:23):
I meant like I didn't. I don't like I don't.
So this is this is this is how I do.
I will play in this franchise with them.

Speaker 2 (02:49:32):
I'll play them. Are we recording? Mitch? Okay?

Speaker 8 (02:49:35):
I don't get on there and go I'm just gonna
jump in a random game with some Yahoo online.

Speaker 2 (02:49:41):
Yeah, I don't do that. It's weird to me. It's weird.

Speaker 8 (02:49:45):
I will race on the internet against anybody across the country,
the you know, twenty thirty dudes.

Speaker 2 (02:49:51):
Yeah, but I can't.

Speaker 8 (02:49:52):
It's weird to me to play.

Speaker 2 (02:49:53):
Like a one on one talk about college football. What
use would you want to talk about this our podcasts
A little bit? Is the most recent national champion college
football coach in his league.

Speaker 8 (02:50:11):
Okay, I was all right, So I don't know if
everybody can see this, but this is my gift from Charlotte.
You know, forty nine ers UNCC. I am in a
twenty three person league. Friends, buddies, people, I know. Some
people don't. And uh. I started as a one star

(02:50:32):
with Charlotte and recruited him up to a four and
a half star and beat Michigan, who's a buddy of mine.
He was my best man. He's the best man in
my wedding. TJ Majors. He's Michigan won three in a row,
Natty's in a row, and I beat him in the
last national championship and so unseated dynasty.

Speaker 2 (02:50:50):
It's a fun YEAHEAHD Firm College Football Seco. It's fun.

Speaker 8 (02:50:54):
And he's a better he's a better user, he's better
on the stick. So he's he's he and there are
other people in the league that are just a little
better on the stick, right, jukes.

Speaker 2 (02:51:07):
U.

Speaker 8 (02:51:07):
Well, I recruited, worked hard, so I was gonna bring
you my This is my iPad, my own personal iPad.

Speaker 3 (02:51:13):
Right. So he literally halfway through this podcast I was
looking at I was like, why does he have?

Speaker 8 (02:51:20):
All right, Well, it's the only way I can really
help you understand, like the work that goes into this.
So I have a spreadsheet on my dynasty, and this
is my offense, all right, And so like this is
your depth chart, Yes, depth chart, redism seniors, juniors. You know,
it's color coded for players. And these are all my

(02:51:42):
red shirts. And these are scouting. These are guys I'm scouting.
This is how many points I've got on them. Where
I am in the scouting first first, you know, second
in scouting. And so there's defense, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:51:55):
This is a fool.

Speaker 3 (02:51:56):
This is this is a manifesto. This is a Connor
Stallion's manifesto.

Speaker 8 (02:51:59):
Yeah, that is my depth chart, right, And that's how I.

Speaker 2 (02:52:03):
Have stuff on the game where you can see the
depth chart.

Speaker 3 (02:52:05):
But I need to be able to take it overy
this is what the deal is, showing what he's been
greatest whole life.

Speaker 8 (02:52:10):
I need to take it everywhere I go because I'm
always thinking about this and I'm always like, oh, I
got to move that guy's he's so offensive. Or the
outside linebacker speed rusher is broken, right, They in the game.
They can't they can't improve. So if you've got a
speed rusher outside linebacker, you got a moving for him

(02:52:31):
to really realize his potential. So maybe there's something like
that going on and you're like, I'm gonna move into
defensive end. So I got this with me all the time.
This is probably the real money of the whole. This
is all the success. So this is my playbook. So
these are all run plays. These are pass plays, RPOs, screens, right,
and so these numbers is the average yards per use.

(02:52:57):
So if I've used the plays one hundred times or
thirty times, how many times I've used to play, this
is average yards on that play. And so this is
where the play is in the situation. So first down,
these are all the first, these are all the run
plays in first down this place. So this is your
call sheet, it's my call sheet, and so I will
and like, you know, there's a you know, I don't know,

(02:53:19):
forty run plays. All of these aren't in my playbook.
I do a custom playbook. But this is how I
customize it. I run all these plays, I play multiple games,
and then I look at the average yardage that I
get for all these plays. I will then rank them
and their ability to gain yards, and then I will

(02:53:40):
customize my playbook and to make sure that when i'm
you know, on a first and ten, I've got it.
Suggesting to me, I use suggestions only, which is kind
of a no note for most people. Most people don't
think suggestions is the way to go. But I use suggestions,
but I have my custom book tailor to suggest to
me the exact play I need that's probably got the

(02:54:01):
most the play that's got the most probability to get
the first down. And there's you know, and then on
second and short, second, medium, second, long, all the situations right,
going for two goal line pass, whatever it's gonna give me.
At least you know, five or ten of the best
most highly successful plays for that moment. And every six

(02:54:25):
or seven games, I go through and look at all
my plays and make sure to update the average yardage
per use and because that moves it in. That moves
the play up and down the list, right, and maybe
there's a new play that I And the other thing
I do I got on my YouTube. I've got this
long curated playlist of videos. I follow about three or

(02:54:47):
four five content creators around n C double A, and
I watch all their videos and I write down everything
that they're learning and all the tricks, the cheese, whatever
you want to call it. And so there's all kinds
of quirky broken things about the game and recruiting and
player progression.

Speaker 2 (02:55:05):
And stuff like follow Kirk Probably not he's a quarterback
for the Packers, but he breaks down college football twenty five.
Really I need to follow you.

Speaker 8 (02:55:14):
I follow these guys that are making content daily and
always finding something new and unique and how to make
the best coach build and whatever. Right, And so I
write all this stuff down and have all this information
ready to go and make sure I'm doing everything I
need to be doing to be successful. And so when
I go play my buddy TJ, who's probably gonna beat
me one on one if we just sat down and

(02:55:36):
both took Alabama.

Speaker 2 (02:55:38):
I gotta be all.

Speaker 8 (02:55:39):
I gotta be ready with everything I can bring him
right to beat him and Michigan. He's he'll come up
to the line of scrimmage. Every damn player's got a
star under it all.

Speaker 2 (02:55:49):
You know.

Speaker 8 (02:55:49):
He's he's recruiting better than anybody else with his pipeline.
So I mean, he's got amazing players and he's good.

Speaker 2 (02:55:56):
Your squad's got the but I got I.

Speaker 8 (02:55:58):
Got I'm doing the work.

Speaker 3 (02:55:59):
Yeah, yeah, you doing what the entire football staff is
just as one individual. So that is, and so you
won the NAXT Championship.

Speaker 2 (02:56:07):
You don't play, he does. He corrected that. I guess
that's what he now means is I'm like, what if
we got a game in Yeah. For him, it's like, nah,
we there's no I don't sit down and play the
football game. And I picked my favorite team and we
play against each other.

Speaker 8 (02:56:21):
I won't.

Speaker 2 (02:56:22):
He's taking that id like he plays at his spot
in his spot only because he's got everything down in
ye right.

Speaker 8 (02:56:27):
I play this dynasty and nothing else.

Speaker 2 (02:56:29):
Like I don't do away games.

Speaker 8 (02:56:30):
I don't sit down and do it. I don't sit
down and do a one on one with some random right, right,
I'm not into that.

Speaker 2 (02:56:37):
It's weird. Make it to your league.

Speaker 8 (02:56:40):
I go and play my league games. That's what I play.
And there's twenty three of us in there, and and
some of us. I got two teams. I got Stanford two,
and so I just started using Stanford just to kind
of kill the time between advances, because sometimes our advances
are four or five days, so there's a little bit
of dead time.

Speaker 2 (02:56:55):
And I was gonna ask, like, what's the cadence with
this league?

Speaker 8 (02:56:58):
Every four or five days is an advance, and so
he commissions it is the commissioner Michigan wos so before.

Speaker 3 (02:57:05):
We started to yeah the podcast, you will the saying
that you don't play, but.

Speaker 2 (02:57:08):
You actually do play the game. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:57:11):
I play the games. We don't send the games, but
I don't play outside of this dynasty, Like I don't
play just pick up games with regular folks. I mean,
I think it would be fun, but it's I don't
know why.

Speaker 2 (02:57:24):
It's too valuable.

Speaker 8 (02:57:25):
It's weird to me. It's weird to me to play
one on one in any kind of console game with
a stranger. I don't know why it's weird to me,
but I do like being in like group activities like
where you play with Like in on my PC games,
I play a game called hell Let Loose and it's
a World War II shooter. So you got to squad
up with six guys and you'll all got to be
doing your jobs and ship like that. So and then

(02:57:47):
you gotta go.

Speaker 2 (02:57:47):
You go racing. You gotta play PUBG.

Speaker 8 (02:57:50):
I play PUBG back.

Speaker 2 (02:57:52):
In the day.

Speaker 8 (02:57:52):
But I'm I'm on a hell Let Loose now. But
on I Racing, right, you race against twenty thirty dudes
on I Racing on my sim My Simmer. I do
that anytime. I don't mind doing that. But this is
this deal here, and I'll say this, like and you
guys can probably appreciate this.

Speaker 2 (02:58:07):
I mean, I've already appreciated everything that you've laid out
for us with that iPad.

Speaker 8 (02:58:12):
The detail.

Speaker 3 (02:58:15):
Situation is a massive respect factor that's taking place right
now where you've done here crazy.

Speaker 8 (02:58:21):
The that's it's unnecessary and and if you're just I
know it's unnecessary, but I need to do it because.

Speaker 2 (02:58:29):
I love the love.

Speaker 8 (02:58:31):
I love the the details, I love the data. I
love the information, and like when I would when I
was working out and trying to stay in shape as
a race car driver, what I enjoyed doing was road bikes.
I hated the freaking ride. I hated the forty my ride.

Speaker 2 (02:58:47):
I dreaded it.

Speaker 8 (02:58:48):
What was hanging out there in front of me was
all of the data I got from the ride, my
average watts, you know, all of the information that I
would get from my you know, my technolo and all
the all the crap you could put on the bike
to tell me how I did compared to my last ride.
That's what I rode for, and that's what made me
want to ride, was to see if I was faster

(02:59:10):
or better. And and that's you know, and I think too,
like as I've retired from racing, and I don't have
that consuming my brain all the time, Like these little
hobbies are what keep my mind sharp at like fifty
years old, Like I need, like I need this mental
gymnastics that's in this you know, that's this bullshit that

(02:59:31):
I'm playing with my buddies, right, and I take it
way too far right and and but I'm like, hey,
you know that's my chance to win. That's how I'm
gonna beat DJ is to be like, make sure that
I am playing the I am calling the very best
play every single moment I can possibly call for myself.
And I know this because I've looked at all these
plays and I've ran them, and I've and I've listed

(02:59:52):
them and I've got them right here, and I've created
this very you know, custom playbook, and so yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 2 (03:00:00):
You need you need to get us the next level
we did. We need an inspiring I don't know what
the next level could be.

Speaker 8 (03:00:05):
I think it's already.

Speaker 2 (03:00:08):
When I was racing and it was the forty miles
and I dreaded it. I hated it. It consumed me.
But all the technology, all the details, the process, the
loving it. And he's like, that's what I get out
of college football twenty five. He's like, I don't have
that anymore. And you know, when I'm coaching what's what's

(03:00:32):
the mascot for Charlotte the forty When I'm coaching those boys,
the Charlotte forty nine ers, and golly, Samuel, he's elevated
his GPA and now he can't plain he is eligible
this Saturday. And that's.

Speaker 3 (03:00:45):
When I got a guy who's on the outside linebacker spot,
and I know he's reached his maximum potential, so I
move him into defensive and I get to see that
spark in his eyes. And we've had jumping to the next.

Speaker 2 (03:00:54):
Level and we've had one on one conversations. I'm like, no,
you belong on the edge, and he's trying to tell
me I'm a stand up backer. And now I need
to trust this day of that this has given me.
And I found U.

Speaker 3 (03:01:03):
I showed him the sheets. He doesn't believe in the sheets,
but eventually he did believe in the sheets, and what happened.
He's a five star, always a blue blood.

Speaker 2 (03:01:09):
Yeah, and now he's a champion.

Speaker 3 (03:01:11):
Yeah, because he listened, because he took the coaching. He's
a champion I have.

Speaker 7 (03:01:19):
And I gotta know.

Speaker 2 (03:01:20):
You're Cadence. So you're every Okay, your games, your weeks
are four or five days long, right, but you're clearly
you're you're every day.

Speaker 8 (03:01:26):
I'm I'm every every other day, probably in the in
the I'm in the you know, in the I'm in
the war room every other day working on this.

Speaker 2 (03:01:36):
You know those off days too.

Speaker 3 (03:01:37):
He's thinking to himself, I want to be back in
there those days, there's real life work, and he's got
to get this real life work.

Speaker 2 (03:01:45):
It's the time home. He's like, all right, we're gonna
be watching this TV show. I got to stay.

Speaker 8 (03:01:50):
That was last night. I was like, we're not doing
We're not doing it tonight.

Speaker 2 (03:01:55):
Watch the show be there for my family in the
simulator real quick. I guess I should work on my cars.

Speaker 8 (03:02:01):
I do have a game that I've got to play
against app State.

Speaker 2 (03:02:03):
App states my my co pilot. He's with me here
in Nashville.

Speaker 8 (03:02:06):
He flew the plane, he landed the playing here today,
and his name is Alex. And I played Alex a
couple of seasons ago and beat him really bad. And
so I spent the time on the next flight that
we were flying somewhere and wrote him a basic and
E book and gave him listen. I gave him my
play book.

Speaker 2 (03:02:24):
You wrote him an E book.

Speaker 8 (03:02:25):
I wrote him an e book mail emailed it to him.
I'm like, here's everything I do with scouting, Here's everything
I do with plays, Here's here's I say this ship.
And then I sent him. I sent him my PLO,
I sent him my playbook.

Speaker 2 (03:02:40):
He wrote his buddy and E book. He wrote his
buddy of manifesto on how to become.

Speaker 8 (03:02:47):
And he's dominant now and now like when I play him,
it's like, I know I got damn ship together because
he's gonna call the same ship I call, and I
got it. I don't even I don't even know how
to stop some of the ship I.

Speaker 2 (03:02:55):
Call yea regrets you've transcended. Like if I was playing myself,
could I even beat Oh? And it's so funny because
the passion oozer from him. He really asked himself that

(03:03:18):
kind of question, how good he was doing. He's like,
have I have I done it? Have I cracked the code?
He said? I wrote, I've given him everything that I know,
And now I'm going to be playing against him and
he's going to be calling the same ship that I call,
and I'm wondering, can I even stop myself? And you

(03:03:40):
see the look in his eye like he's got Dayton.

Speaker 8 (03:03:47):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (03:03:50):
Oh it's a great question. Do you a picture of
the war room?

Speaker 8 (03:03:54):
Oh it's just my I mean, it's just my game room.

Speaker 2 (03:03:56):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 8 (03:03:58):
You got to have a no no, no, no no,
it's just a room with a couch and a TV.

Speaker 3 (03:04:03):
One time you got a courtboard with some sort of
there's none of the pictures and ship there can be
no physical evidence.

Speaker 2 (03:04:10):
He prints out the smart man physical evidence in the room. God,
you gotta stream this. What time of day that this
is happened for you? Like we know when it gets
to all right, kids go down by seven thirty? Yeahs,
kids go to bed about nine o'clock.

Speaker 3 (03:04:25):
I mean, I can't imagine you putting down your kids
at seven thirty eight o'cloh they go to bed at nine.
I can't imagine that. Like the pregame jitters, they want
you to read the book, they want you to tell
the story, and you're thinking.

Speaker 2 (03:04:35):
Your kids have no clue. It's week one of the
big seasons.

Speaker 5 (03:04:38):
Hey, a great point.

Speaker 2 (03:04:40):
This brings it all back around. Dy'll sent me his
children's book and I'm reading it to Ruin. I'm thinking,
this is the longest long book I've ever read.

Speaker 7 (03:04:50):
So he read his boys.

Speaker 2 (03:04:52):
This is a r this is a rule.

Speaker 8 (03:04:54):
This is a long time we're going to read.

Speaker 3 (03:04:55):
He made this book for his boys in his lead
that he knows his kids, and now they can't focus
this long ass book.

Speaker 2 (03:05:02):
So we're gonna read go dog though. Yeah, those are
the best ones too.

Speaker 3 (03:05:08):
When you're here, you tell you, okay, go and pick
out a book, and they're bringing back those real Oh
my gosh, but the pages of that thick each is
only about eight of them. You're like, hell yeah, okay,
well well one tonight tho.

Speaker 2 (03:05:16):
Okay. I meant to do it right up on Twitter
about your children's book because I remember being in time.
She wants to go back and see the cars in
the garage.

Speaker 8 (03:05:26):
There are some books that are You're like, damn, I
should take that one out of rotation.

Speaker 2 (03:05:31):
Everyone should, everyone out here listening, please buy the book
your little one. Go walk over to the shelf and like, god,
why didn't I grab that one right there? Trip the
victory Lane? My my? How many pages that?

Speaker 8 (03:05:43):
Then?

Speaker 2 (03:05:43):
What's that novel? Look like?

Speaker 8 (03:05:45):
My six year old is the long book, person, and
my little four year old is like the cardboard hard
cardboard book. Yeah, open it up.

Speaker 2 (03:05:55):
It's like three words each page. I love it. Hell yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:06:00):
Everyone's in Harry Potter right now. We're busting out Harry Potter.
But it used to be a chapter a night, and
you haven't seen me read on this podcast yet. But
it's it's slower moving the most and so I go
to like the five pages, saying. My four year old
she is the same way with like the little pop
up books, and she wants to put stickers on a page.
I'm like, we'll do one page, and I always let
her do two because I'm kind of dad.

Speaker 2 (03:06:21):
I then we get out of there.

Speaker 8 (03:06:22):
You're it's no bullshit, man. I'll be sitting in there
in the middle of the book going damn this book,
you know, And then I have to remind myself.

Speaker 2 (03:06:29):
I'm like, what an asshole?

Speaker 1 (03:06:31):
You know?

Speaker 2 (03:06:31):
Yeah, I'm gonna miss.

Speaker 8 (03:06:33):
This and you know, and I'm like, I guess just
ship I'm telling myself.

Speaker 2 (03:06:38):
I'm like, shut up, self, just read the book, just
enjoyed the book. You're gonna wish you're back in this
moment then just sitting out of your arm.

Speaker 8 (03:06:46):
My little four year old is smart enough to know
I'm half ass in this, right, Yeah? She you know,
and she's like, what's the deal with this guy?

Speaker 2 (03:06:54):
Yeah? I was passionate about this. Yes I am. Where's
the voice in flag? Yes? Yes, yeah, yeah. You gotta
change the voices too for all the characters. I really
enjoyed doing it. I don't really do to do that
I do.

Speaker 8 (03:07:08):
That because I have to. I have to do the
audio for our book.

Speaker 2 (03:07:11):
You know what's messed up? Yeah, you're doing books.

Speaker 8 (03:07:13):
I get into it.

Speaker 3 (03:07:14):
You know how they say like in books, there's like
the quotes of like somebody's talking and it says like
Darla said, it's like soap, Darla said, Darla says in
the beginning. So I know to change the voice inflection.
Yeah for that, because I started going across these lines.
It's around like what voice am I supposed to be
doing here, Darla? And I feel like I have to
go back and read as Darla now and have made up.

Speaker 2 (03:07:35):
Sure, I'm glad you info on uh the children's book,
I saw the age ranges four to eight. I'm like, okay,
so where he's got a couple of years. I shouldn't
even crack.

Speaker 3 (03:07:43):
That right anything it's inappropriate.

Speaker 2 (03:07:48):
Learn about Victor's super nice.

Speaker 3 (03:07:50):
Incidentally, all his buddies in the league, their kids are
all between four and eight. That's how this all happens.

Speaker 2 (03:07:56):
You get freed up around nine. Yes, so you'll play
from nine until.

Speaker 8 (03:08:00):
I just a game is an hour, so like if
it's but you ain't just with Alix, I know, so
you got recruiting every week. Yeah, you got to go
in there and go right. Man, I got a big
lead here. I can spare some points and put it
on this other guy where he's in second. And now
I'm in a five and a half star or four
and a half stars. So I'm going up against some
big schools trying to beat you know, Michigan and other
Michigan got two wide receivers from me already in this round.

(03:08:22):
We're in like week before, we're in week four, and
they got to like mid ninety speed five receivers and
and but I got one guy, you know, So there's
just one guy. I think I might win.

Speaker 2 (03:08:32):
So you'll play until about midnight midnight.

Speaker 8 (03:08:35):
Yeah, I'm looking at my I'm looking at the clock.
But then man, you get up and you're like, I'm
gonna go sit on the couch and he's some jump
food or sometimes man, I just can't go down.

Speaker 2 (03:08:44):
Well, yeah, you have a big game. You got a
big game game saying he's coming down. It's from the
car for me.

Speaker 3 (03:08:51):
Yeah, you have done playing a big sixty minutes.

Speaker 8 (03:08:54):
When you win, win really good. Yeah, I get nervous.

Speaker 2 (03:08:58):
Eat some foods in your boy a message, like, how'd
that go for? You go the way you wanted? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
something I.

Speaker 8 (03:09:07):
I'd beat to get to the put to the to
get to the national championship against Michigan.

Speaker 2 (03:09:12):
I beat.

Speaker 8 (03:09:15):
Texas State by with the last second field.

Speaker 2 (03:09:17):
Goal Texas State. So there's somebody else in the good.

Speaker 8 (03:09:21):
Recruiting the predominant. Corell is his name, and he's pretty tough.
He's got a fast quarterback and he knows how to
use it.

Speaker 2 (03:09:27):
Was like he's involved with the mafia with that name. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (03:09:30):
So I almost didn't even make it a natty.

Speaker 2 (03:09:32):
Because how many years has this dynasty?

Speaker 8 (03:09:35):
I won year twenty nine, twenty twenty nine. It took
you twenty four years?

Speaker 2 (03:09:41):
Oh okay, okay, sorry, So.

Speaker 3 (03:09:42):
You've unseated a Michigan team that's won three national champions Yeah.

Speaker 8 (03:09:46):
He won one with South Carolina and then somehow or another,
he don't he don't do his recruiting or used to not,
and his team took a ship.

Speaker 2 (03:09:55):
And so Steven, you gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I
gotta work a lot he got Oh yeah, he's got Yeah.

Speaker 8 (03:10:03):
I know, man, my time's limited. My time's limited, man.
I can only I can only put this much into
it for a short period of time where I have
to I have to pull the plug.

Speaker 2 (03:10:11):
O something else.

Speaker 8 (03:10:12):
Yeah, we used to have a Madden League back around
twenty twelve. He was in that too, and it was
full thirty sixth or however many thirty two full member.
Everybody had a team. I was Washington, and uh, I
got this. I got this fictional running back. I'll never
forget his name, Nick Hubbard, insane. I pulled him off
a free agency. It was like a sixty eight overall.

(03:10:32):
But he had ninety seven speed, ninety eight speed and
a lot of strength and a good a good uh
a good uh trucking ability and and so I his
his overall was so low because this uh, his awareness sucked.
But if you're a usering the player don't matter if
they got bad awareness. So I blew this dude up.

Speaker 2 (03:10:53):
He was nasty and I.

Speaker 8 (03:10:55):
Destroyed the league for three years in a row, won
three three Super Bowls in a row. And then I
had and then I was like, this is boring, I'm out,
I quit, No is this is sure?

Speaker 2 (03:11:04):
Would you pull up the game? The hell or high
water was.

Speaker 8 (03:11:07):
Hell let loose. That's it, hell let loose. Dude, it's
fun as hell duty. It's kind of called dude. It's
really slow, so there's it's kind of like call of duty,
but call of.

Speaker 2 (03:11:16):
Duty but none slower, slower pace.

Speaker 8 (03:11:19):
Yeah, the it's like one shot dead. You've got to
really kind of you don't. You know you're gonna die
a lot if you move too fast, so you gotta
gotta methodical.

Speaker 2 (03:11:29):
Yeah, I respawn a lot, or you get one life
and that's now you can respond.

Speaker 3 (03:11:34):
Okay, so much.

Speaker 2 (03:11:36):
Dale was gooning with us on PUBG one night, and
I like Hill.

Speaker 8 (03:11:41):
I like the the.

Speaker 2 (03:11:44):
I like the real historical an Eyeland.

Speaker 8 (03:11:52):
I like the historical. I like the historical, like World
War two era. So pub G just had a time.
I used to play pussy on crap Ton on this thing.
I used to play PUBG on iPad because like you
could take it anywhere, Yeah, and play anywhere, and it
was not bad on a movie, it's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (03:12:10):
But did you ever play Red de Redemption two? Yeah,
give me your take on that game.

Speaker 2 (03:12:17):
Did you play it all the way through?

Speaker 8 (03:12:19):
I don't think I finished it. It's a lot. You
got to have the book. Did you get the book
to finish it?

Speaker 1 (03:12:26):
Because you got to.

Speaker 8 (03:12:26):
I mean, sometimes you'll get in some of the scenarios
and you're like, I really don't know what the fuck
to do right here, Like the book tells you every little.

Speaker 2 (03:12:32):
Yeah, I guess maybe all the side missions, but I
mean I feel like.

Speaker 3 (03:12:36):
Trying to find the treasure map or go skinning animals
or something like that. But if you're just playing the storyline.

Speaker 2 (03:12:40):
I think I encourage.

Speaker 8 (03:12:41):
I think I did the first one red De Redemption,
and then I didn't do the second one. I what
I want is and it may exist, but I don't know.
I got into red Ded Redemption two on a PC,
and I want to, like a I want to I
want a world that's existing all the time that you

(03:13:03):
can drop into that's a wild wild West, and like
you are, you're a character and you're always developing that character.
I know that you can jump into online play on
red De Redemption, but it's it's kind of cool. It's
kind of quirky.

Speaker 2 (03:13:18):
It's not like.

Speaker 8 (03:13:18):
Authentic, realistic experience, right you run around shooting people, will
they shoot you whatever? But it would be cool if
they can figure out a way or if there is
a way to like have a have a character that's everlasting,
Like that's your character. You drop in, you play this guy,
you're this guy, and you go, you know, put your
ass to bed, get up the you know, next time
you log in, you get out of bed and you

(03:13:39):
go run around and do some stuff, so.

Speaker 2 (03:13:43):
You know it does. I'm just thinking, like, I wonder
if there's anything in VR, and then I'm thinking.

Speaker 3 (03:13:47):
Like VR, but you might yeah, yeah, Dale, of all
the people would never expect this, but I think Dale
ready player one.

Speaker 2 (03:13:55):
Yeah, you put the thing on, then.

Speaker 3 (03:13:56):
All of a sudden you're in that world and you're
the real world kind.

Speaker 2 (03:13:59):
Of goes to ship.

Speaker 3 (03:13:59):
Yeah, this world because I'm the same way, I could
definitely fall into that trap.

Speaker 2 (03:14:05):
Can get up, you take your you take your ass
to bed. And I'm just thinking, you played Harvest Moon before.

Speaker 3 (03:14:11):
So in this Red Dead fantasy you have it's a
Western game, but you can like build a home land
all these so you can essentially live a real world.
So there's a game called ARC tried to put Will
and the Boys on it. They weren't really having it.
But essentially you start out as like a level zero
and you're like a caveman. You're you're living in priests
uh and dinosaur times, and you could you're essentially just

(03:14:35):
like trying to survive for your first fifty levels.

Speaker 2 (03:14:37):
But you can learn to learn to.

Speaker 3 (03:14:39):
Make tools, learn to build structures, learn tow you know,
you can start farming things, and eventually you can get
so good at ARC that you can have like technological
advances where you have like jet packs, you're flying on things.
There's dragons, and that is a world that is everlasting
the way you're saying, like you can live in that
and people can come to your world and take all
your stuff and you basic to start all over.

Speaker 8 (03:15:00):
Yeah, that's kind of like day Z or was it Days?
We played day Z for a while. That's kind of yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:15:10):
My old thing is you build that thing up and
you die and you get taken over. It's over the Asian.

Speaker 8 (03:15:15):
Clans coming, So that start over days is like the
zombie Apocalypse. You you launch into the world and this
thing's been around forever and it's kind of it kind
of goes through these certain periods of popularity and but
you land on this big giant island and you got
nothing right and you got to you gotta eat. You're like,
your guy will die if you don't like feeding food,

(03:15:36):
and you you know, you steal from people and you
build houses to hide your ship in, and it's kind
of the same way, but it doesn't really progress beyond
like the technology bear bear basic technology, and that you
have is what you have.

Speaker 2 (03:15:50):
Yeah, this was Sky No, that was great.

Speaker 3 (03:15:53):
That's a fun game. I but we need to go
back to Red Deverri Deamonster real quick. You need to
go play too. You need to play it all the
way through and you play storyline and fully invest in
Arthur Morgan. To me, this is the greatest game ever
crewd Okay. When I got my ACL refixed in twenty
twenty one, I had eight days and I played the
entire game in eight days. I had nothing else to do.

(03:16:13):
I sobbed at the end of the game. I had
had no joke, tears streaming down my face. It's me
and my wife and I cried. And then there was
a break in crying, and as I was going to
sleep it and I started to recry about the game.

Speaker 2 (03:16:27):
That's how How did your wife take that?

Speaker 3 (03:16:30):
She was like, Yo, what the fuck these pain pills
are on? Must be a way different than anything I've
ever thinked.

Speaker 8 (03:16:35):
I'm already getting a lot of shit back buddy in
in cla football I'm playing.

Speaker 3 (03:16:38):
I'm not sure it effect.

Speaker 8 (03:16:40):
How she might react if I cried.

Speaker 3 (03:16:42):
Yeah over a game, yeah, Arthur, No, just from the
other room.

Speaker 2 (03:16:46):
That might push her over the edge.

Speaker 3 (03:16:48):
Mane, I'm getting emotional thinking about it now. To be
honest with you, I'm getting emotional thinking about Arthur Morgan
right now. Well, and I know there's a bunch of
tier ones right now saying, oh, you need a double stream.
I'm going to double stream. It's been a busy couple.

Speaker 2 (03:17:00):
Oh, bro, you need to not just they can't. They
shouldn't leave you alone. You said something, you haven't even
answered them. I actually have.

Speaker 3 (03:17:08):
You need to focus on my Twitter account. I I
actually still talked to Billy. You're talking to them every day. Bill,
I don't talk to people every day. But I sent
a little p s A. I said, Hey, I know
I said I was gonna do a double stream.

Speaker 2 (03:17:17):
I've been mad to wear it. And it was right
above the tweet you made. I will eventually do a
double stream.

Speaker 8 (03:17:23):
You're streaming your game, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:17:25):
Well stream Tuesday's run eleven.

Speaker 8 (03:17:27):
But what's up platform? I think youtub Yeah, yeah, not twitch.

Speaker 2 (03:17:33):
No, I don't think we dove enough into it. We
should definitely dive into that, Like.

Speaker 8 (03:17:37):
I just I don't know much about it.

Speaker 2 (03:17:39):
Oh really yeah, yeah, because we were on pub g coop.
He does it discord that.

Speaker 8 (03:17:46):
That's what we have in our our college football league
is a big discord. That's how we communicate every day.
And everybody's in there running their mouth and bullshit and
about it.

Speaker 2 (03:17:55):
It. It don't even matter.

Speaker 1 (03:18:00):
Guys.

Speaker 8 (03:18:00):
We're like, all right, yeah, good luck, good luck.

Speaker 2 (03:18:03):
Yeah, that's a better strap the fuck up job interview man?
Are we uh? We feel good? Yeah? We need to
ask him the bud light question.

Speaker 7 (03:18:14):
Do you have that?

Speaker 2 (03:18:16):
Yes? Yes, our bud Light question segment and again stock
up now on bud Light had the bud light dot
com slash locator to find a store near you. But
our bud Light question, there's talks what people would do
for a bud Light, What would you do anything for?

Speaker 1 (03:18:36):
Like what is that for?

Speaker 2 (03:18:37):
So for example, Steve Vanella, he gave us a great story.
He's like, by the end of my life, like, I
don't care. I will do I will move heaven and
earth to create this little docu series and I won't
say what the concept is, because he told us afterwards,
He's like, I can't tell you guys, but I will
get this made. I don't care how many views it gets.
It doesn't matter, Like I want this story to come
to life somewhere somehow. He would do anything to get

(03:18:58):
this docu series. What is something that my life has
been amazing? There ain't shit. I don't know. I mean,
I don't want to say that.

Speaker 8 (03:19:11):
I mean, obviously the traditional things I have to probably say.
Some people that are watching this don't go, what fuck's
wrong with this guy?

Speaker 2 (03:19:16):
With my wife and my kids?

Speaker 8 (03:19:17):
But outside of I would uh uh, I think I
would probably. I mean, does the things that keep hopping
in my mind are like getting my getting my kids
through college, or because my life has been I've already

(03:19:42):
done all the things. I've already done everything. I did
it all, I did everything I wanted. I don't there's
nothing sitting in front of me where like shit, I
hope that happens. Not even the cup stuff, Like if
the cup thing happens, I was going to bring that up.

Speaker 2 (03:19:54):
I don't want to.

Speaker 8 (03:19:55):
I wouldn't do anything for that, you know, I'm kind
of I'm kind of f and good and I want
you know, I want to watch, I want to be
I want to be more excited invested in what happens
between you know, now and my kids graduating school, moving
out of the house.

Speaker 2 (03:20:13):
Right, are they gonna play sports?

Speaker 8 (03:20:15):
Is it gonna be dance? Whatever the hell it's gonna be, right?
What are we gonna what are we gonna get into?
And my goal, I think is all of that, whatever
that is in that whatever happens between now and them
graduating college, which I hope they do. Oh, that's fine,
they choose, but like I want to make sure that
they are when they leave the house right.

Speaker 2 (03:20:37):
To be adults, that they are equipped with all the tools.

Speaker 8 (03:20:42):
And so like I would do anything in the world
to make sure that that is what situation they're in,
you know what I mean. Yeah, there ain't nothing in
front of me personally, professionally that is. That's the I'm like, oh,
you know, gotta get it.

Speaker 2 (03:21:02):
It seems like it sounds it seems like back to
back titles and yeah, I'm a.

Speaker 3 (03:21:07):
Generic answer and made it beautiful the way you for
your kids.

Speaker 8 (03:21:11):
Dude, I'm gonna tell you right now, if the I
got a on my podcast, this week, we played a
clip TJ is my podcast co host, my buddy that
I beat with Michigan. We played a clip from the
coach of the un C forty nine ers congratulating me.
I got the helmet a jersey hat.

Speaker 2 (03:21:30):
I told him.

Speaker 8 (03:21:31):
I told all my buddies in our discord, I said, hey,
I just booked a spot on Busting with the Boys
to go talk about the Natty. I told him that
two weeks ago, and they're like, yeah, And so I've
been running this into the ground and TJ is over it,
and so like, if I don't beat his ass this
next time, it's gonna be help.

Speaker 2 (03:21:52):
Book the spot. I'm busting with the boys, are gonna
talk about the Natty.

Speaker 3 (03:21:55):
If I don't win, he is going, when does the
next season start.

Speaker 8 (03:21:58):
It's already started with like three four weeks in, so
I think we'll play this, you know, we'll play the
national Championship probably in about four or five four weeks maybe.

Speaker 3 (03:22:04):
Oh, it's just short lived celebration and then there's on
a tour of celebrating your nest chamionship in the middle
of the next season.

Speaker 8 (03:22:12):
And so he's he's you know, he's the favorite to
do it to win next the next Natty, and he's
already probably behind the scenes planning his celebration because he
has some Canadians. He has connections at Michigan does it.
He knows some people. So it could be rough, but
I told him, I'm like, live it up. Man. Who
would have thought Charlotte taken him down?

Speaker 2 (03:22:34):
I would not have thought a lot of money on family.

Speaker 8 (03:22:37):
Before we end, before we end this, I just wanted
to I brought this helmet. Now, we didn't talk about this,
and there's really nothing to it. There's not a story
or anything other than you know, y'all both know that
I love Washington. And when I went to in twenty fifteen,
I had an appearance to go to the College Football
Hall of Fame and I'm standing to I'm also meeting

(03:23:03):
make a Wish Kid there that particular day, we were
going to tour the facility right and look around all
the cool shit in there. I'm standing there and Dave Butts,
was alignment for Washington, walks up and he goes hey
and you know, introduce himself. I was like, I know
who you are, and he handed me this helmet. I
want you to have this. So it was a big

(03:23:24):
surprise that he was going to be there for me,
and somebody had set that up. And so Dave Butts
walks up and he gives me this helmet and he's like,
this is my helmet from nineteen eighty four. I immediately
obviously recognized it was a game warm helmet, and he's like,
I want you to have it. And so people ask
me all the time like, and I thought to bring
this today because people ask me all the time, like,
what's your favorite piece of memorabilia of outside of racing,

(03:23:48):
and so this is it. This is my favorite piece
of shit that I've got, right of the all the
Washington I got helmets, tons of helmets. I collect helmets
I got I got one hundred and eighty ish call
edge in football helmets, right of all types of teams.
And this is number one out of helmets or any
other piece of uniform, signed jersey, anything. This is my

(03:24:10):
holy grail. And Dave gave this to me, and I thought,
y'all woul appreciate it being players, knowing what this probably
went through, Knowing what davey R I thought I needed
to bring that. I wanted to bring it for like
maybe some some inspiration.

Speaker 2 (03:24:30):
They played That's a different different world, Different world.

Speaker 8 (03:24:33):
Yeah that he was so logo too. Yep, it's back, man.
They kind of thought, hey, we're bringing it back. It's nice.

Speaker 2 (03:24:43):
Have they been bringing it back?

Speaker 8 (03:24:44):
They talked about the logo can come back, and they're
going to use the logo in some marketing and some
things because of the family that designed it was like, hey,
you know this is this is something we'd like to
have have happened. So I think there's been some conversations
around the logo itself being used in some market back.
I don't think the logo was ever coming back to
the helmet, right, But yeah, pretty neat man.

Speaker 2 (03:25:05):
I just Washington's in a good spot. Man.

Speaker 8 (03:25:07):
They are kidding me in a great spot. They're in
a great spot.

Speaker 2 (03:25:12):
It was fun watching them last year just make that
run and beating the Lions. That was crazy. It performed
the entire game too. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (03:25:22):
I hadn't ran around and I was in Texas at
my wife's had some friends and family we were visiting,
and I was running around in this in this person's
living room like a maniac.

Speaker 2 (03:25:32):
You know.

Speaker 8 (03:25:32):
During the game, Amy's invested. Amy's into it, The kids
are into it they wear jerseys and you and they
get the little cheerleader uniforms, and my little girl isla
six years old. It's like, hey, Commanders playing today, are
we wearing the jerseys? We got to wear the jerseys.
I'm like, yeah, let's get the jerseys. And so, I mean,
the fact that they're good, the fact that they're winning,

(03:25:54):
it's all like happening at the perfect time for me
because my family's in my my girls are kind of impressionable.
And when they were winning those games at the end
of last season, it brought me back to my childhood
because when you know, they hadn't they hadn't really kicked
real ass since ninety one. I was I remember where
I was when they won against Denver in the Super Bowl,

(03:26:17):
against the Bills, against Miami, and I remember physically where
I was standing or what I was doing, and and
I hadn't been that happy and been able. It was
so nice to be happy and like really truly genuinely
cheering about your team going that deep into you know,
the postseason. I know I'm overstating it a little bit

(03:26:39):
as a but I'm a fan, right, so I'm biased.
But you know, you you played there and you know
the history and the legacy of that team and what
that means to the fans that go to those games,
and oh yeah, all the teams you've played for, you
know how passionate the fans are. And God almighty, we've
been waiting a long time. I mean there's other teams
that have been waiting a long time too, But damn,
it's been tough.

Speaker 2 (03:27:00):
That just the story of Washington, the ownership and Cloud
that's kind of been root for him.

Speaker 8 (03:27:05):
But you're like, they couldn't do anything right owner off
the field, it was always bad news. You'd like, nobody
wants to play for us. Look at all this ship
going on, all the you can't escape the bullshit.

Speaker 2 (03:27:16):
And then to get new ownership and coaching staff and
it feels like turned around and inane players in and
them have the success that they've had so quickly.

Speaker 8 (03:27:26):
It turned around insane way fast. I've been watching free agency,
I will. I'm looking at my phone every day following
the JP and a couple of those guys going right, man,
what's up? Who is a giant?

Speaker 2 (03:27:37):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (03:27:37):
Like who's yes? I'm like, who oh man, those are
my guys, And I'm like, what's the news.

Speaker 2 (03:27:44):
You know, let me know.

Speaker 8 (03:27:45):
Oh, you know, because we're all fired up about our
GM and all we think he walks on watery and
uh and we're like, hey man, they're gonna now that.
Now that we've shown everybody in the league that what
we can do, and everybody's excited about Jaden, it's all
these players are like, I want to go there.

Speaker 2 (03:28:00):
Yeah, let's see it.

Speaker 8 (03:28:01):
Let's see it. Here's free agency, let's see who signs up.

Speaker 3 (03:28:08):
Sounds like a passionate man in general. The thing I
love you talking about, though, is like your kids getting
fired up watching the games with you. Because my oldest
daughters started to hit that with Michigan like this year,
like she every Saturday, like we'd have the game on
or whatever during the day and we'd either watch it
casually and then I would go back and watch it,
or like she would sit down and watch it with me.
And when we played Ohio State this year and we won,

(03:28:30):
I remember choosing in the other room because she was
doing something her her mom and my youngest daughter are
like sprinting in the room like we're all high five,
Like they were like truly about it. I thought was
like the coolest moment I didn't meet my wife when
I was at Michigan, but like she knows, like I
enjoyed playing there and stuff like that, and I have
like recently become like a bigger and bigger fan and

(03:28:50):
like really dived into the culture. And to see my
seven year old be about it and then here you
talk about your kids even about it, putting the jerseys on, all.

Speaker 8 (03:28:56):
That very similar.

Speaker 3 (03:28:57):
Yeah, it's like, this is how fans are built. This
is like organically how fans.

Speaker 2 (03:29:01):
Are just made. And that's awesome. Teaching to go big
red change, Yeah, dad, dad football, Like, yeah, we're gonna
watch football today, sweetheart. We're gonna have that, all right.
I'm gonna be watching Daniel Tiger.

Speaker 3 (03:29:11):
The entire Kickrocks for just twelve hours. All right, we'll
get back to it tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (03:29:16):
This is me and my daughter.

Speaker 3 (03:29:17):
I took her to uh Northwestern and so that's the
game before Ohio Stadium, and uh, I mean they dropped
like a fifty burger of Northwestern. So win was kind
of dialed and I talked to the team before too,
so I was like, maybe something's in the air. And
technically they're undefeated since me and my daughter went to
that game.

Speaker 8 (03:29:32):
So me and me and Amy were at the Chicago
game where they had the Harold Mary Oh shit insane.

Speaker 2 (03:29:40):
That was so wild.

Speaker 8 (03:29:42):
We were sitting there in this.

Speaker 2 (03:29:43):
We got is she yes football?

Speaker 8 (03:29:46):
Yeah, she's she likes it because I like it and
there's not been a lot to there.

Speaker 2 (03:29:50):
We are.

Speaker 8 (03:29:51):
We got to go down on the field probably about
probably about twenty feet away from us. You know that moment, right,
everybody's gone, the whole stayings empty. Jayden's about twenty feet
away doing it review and I would get to luckily
get to say, man, a big Benny, You're badass, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:30:04):
And so that was a cool moment for us owner
if jaydaen't even understands how big of a deal that is.

Speaker 3 (03:30:10):
Character he waited for you to finish interview.

Speaker 8 (03:30:14):
He has other things in his mind that are big deals, right, Yeah,
that are cool, And and his generation and the people
that he like holds it a certain level of you know,
celebrity status or whatever. But we were I wore my
Riggings jersey. I'm like they let me go sitting in
the owner suite like that was automatic when Dan was there,
when Dan on the team, I was getting invites every

(03:30:35):
week and then the new new people come in and
I'm like, man, I wonder if I get that invite. Yeah,
and so they sent one and we're like, all right,
we're going. We didn't know where we were sitting, but
they walked us in there and like, oh, hell, they've done.
We redid the whole thing. Whole owner suite's like a
whole different color now. And we sat down on the
front row watch a whole game and.

Speaker 2 (03:30:57):
They ain't looking good. Everybody's leaving.

Speaker 8 (03:30:59):
Everybody's kind of leaving the even their owner suite. And
he's like, what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (03:31:03):
I was like, we are leaving.

Speaker 8 (03:31:04):
I was like, you know, even if we lose, we're
gonna lose, We're gonna stand here a few minutes, soak
it in.

Speaker 2 (03:31:09):
We'll just wait. We got a few minutes.

Speaker 8 (03:31:12):
And we're standing there and and you know, he he's
the ball up in the air and yeah, we're watching
and they fucking caught that pass and that and what
people were left. It was like pandemonium, Like Amy, I'm watching.
I was like watching Amy go crazy, like loving that
because I'm like Ship. You know, my wife is, you know,

(03:31:34):
a big Commanders fan now, and I don't know man,
that was a to have been there and seeing that
in person. And I remember like watching the one guy
go down the field number twenty three that that that that. Yeah,
I'm watching it and I'm like, here's an opportunity this
This fucking guy is not paying attention. I wonder if
anybody else know this is just like you know, because
he went viral. Yeah, and so I'm thinking, man, this this,

(03:31:57):
this might be a chance. There might be a chance here.
And uh, of course you know, y'all know how it
went down, but got am mighty too. Y'all have probably
seen the hell Mary moment or the the buzzer beater.
Y'all seen that because y'all are in sports so much
in college, high school, NFL, you've probably been part of

(03:32:18):
those moments.

Speaker 6 (03:32:19):
Right.

Speaker 8 (03:32:20):
That was my first like real like buzzer beater, like prayer,
that one in a million, yeah, you know, and then
for us to go on and do what we did
the rest of the year, right because that was kind
of early in the season. But I mean it's just incredible.

Speaker 3 (03:32:34):
But especially it's like Caleb Williams, who was the first
overall pick. There's obviously that like, yeah, this big long
run off in the second and third quarter, and I
was like, here we go fucking falling apart. Our defense
had held them up God for so long, and now
it's like they found the holes, they found the kryptonite,
and they're gonta damn just destroy us.

Speaker 8 (03:32:53):
Or that. You know they're gonna win the game day
we got it. That was a fun season last year.
I hope this year is good.

Speaker 2 (03:33:00):
Hope so too.

Speaker 3 (03:33:01):
Because you worry about you worry about the sophomore slump.

Speaker 2 (03:33:04):
That's always worry. Yeah, that's always a little bit of
a deal. We've done some good, you're getting some they'll
get better to the draft and.

Speaker 8 (03:33:11):
We only got five picks, so I don't know what
that means. And I don't.

Speaker 2 (03:33:14):
I keep hearing the just picked up somebody for agency, right.

Speaker 8 (03:33:17):
The left tackle from the Texans.

Speaker 2 (03:33:20):
That's right, Yeah, yeah, I mean they're good too. Yeah.
He's got good footwork. Good, yeah, good footwork. What's up?

Speaker 3 (03:33:28):
Good luck strongs the game? Actually, but they gave him there,
they're gonna break him off. I don't know if he
signed a new contract.

Speaker 2 (03:33:35):
Yeah, but they Houston got a whole bunch of picks.
They're gonna have to pay him. Yeah, big time.

Speaker 8 (03:33:42):
Well, they got to pay Jayden to a couple of years.

Speaker 2 (03:33:45):
The good thing is they have Jaden on the rookie deal.
They can just get out there now, yeah, and see
if they can wait at least two more years. Two
more years. Yeah, Yeah, it's fine to watch him work. Man.

Speaker 8 (03:33:55):
They're the the free agency, you know, besides the left
tackle from Texas. The players that they bring in, You're like,
h I never heard of this guy.

Speaker 2 (03:34:06):
Who's this guy? What's the story?

Speaker 8 (03:34:08):
And and their story is really not like he's dominated,
you know, it's kind of like wells a, he's a journeyman, dependable,
he'll get in there, he'll do the job, you know.
And that's what they did last year. They had all
these one year deals. I don't know shit about this,
like you guys, but you know, I'm watching them like
it's it's it's strange because everybody's everybody's now signing like
one year deals on these you know, these you know,

(03:34:31):
these veterans that are in like the seventies six sixty
seventy percent mark of their career, they're kind of they
got a little left in the tank. But I mean,
how is is that the way it's always been? Because
it feels like I remember, it felt like for years
when free agency came, everybody signed like three, four, five, six,
seven year deals. And now everyone is doing these like

(03:34:53):
one year, two year, little rinky dink, you'll play here
this year, maybe not next year.

Speaker 3 (03:34:59):
The and I think it's become more and more casual
now than ever. This is this this free agency has
been very unique in the sense that the market keeps
getting hired and higher, just in these like this pocket
of this couple of weeks, like Max Crosby was the
number one, you know, highest non paid quarterback of all time,
and then a day later Miles Garrett. Then a day
and then like you know, now he's like the fifth

(03:35:21):
highest paid. So it's really interesting to see these like
markets set, like these cap setting contracts happening. But a
lot of times, like you get through the first wave
of that free agency, which is like your your top
guys who are able to get away from their teams
are gonna pick up, and then you get like a
lot of the guys that have like you know, they're
signing usually.

Speaker 2 (03:35:37):
The one the two year deals.

Speaker 3 (03:35:39):
It's like, is he gonna work out? We know he's
got the talent, can he really get it done.

Speaker 2 (03:35:43):
So I think too, there's not as much of a
market because the structure and the new CBA and everything else.
When the minimums went up for rookies, it kind of
squeezed that middle class a little bit more because the rookies,
they'd be on cheaper deals, so you would see more three,
four or five year deals of like the middle tier guys.
But over time it's like the floor has raised for

(03:36:04):
the rookie deals and it's like, we're gonna have this
rookie for three or four years. You don't necessarily pay
the middle class as much. You can kind of put
all your eggs into the guys that you want here
long term, and guys will take those one or two
year deals because they're essentially trying to be on proved
deals to where they haven't seen the guarantees that they
would like in a full contract. Because if you're a
good player and somebody's offering and let's just say, you know,

(03:36:27):
three years, thirty million dollars, but only you know five
to ten guaranteed or something like that, then that player
probably thinks in his head, I will just do a
one year deal, get a guaranteed contract as much as
I can and then hopefully try and hit a lick
the next time around, because it will middle classes kind
of get squeezed out because you'll just sign guys on
one year minimums or one year for lower money. But

(03:36:47):
you don't see those like middle tier contracts being laid
out as much.

Speaker 3 (03:36:50):
Ay, and well we'll just structure out with a three
or thirty million dollars ten million guarantee, Like that's that's
a three year deal, but really it's a one year deal, right,
like that that's a proved deal. Yeah, was of the
past because of this whole level just said the middle
class getting squeezed because really all you have is your guarantee.
A lot of these guys want to look at the
total contract number, like these guys are making whatever, two
hundred million dollar contracts. Oh, it's awesome, but then it's like, well,

(03:37:13):
you only got this much guaranteed, though they guarantee is
what is the most important thing, not how big the
number is, because they could walk away from me where
they could backle it the contract and all these different things.
So there's a lot of like shenanigans and like savvy
things that take place during the free agency market.

Speaker 8 (03:37:28):
Yeah, it's pretty fascinating to watch and we'll see how
how it plays out for my team.

Speaker 3 (03:37:34):
Is there any like free agency type stuff in Nascar?
Or you're pretty just built in we're gonna pay you
the X, Y and Z a year. Yeah, it's pretty
bonuses based on if you win.

Speaker 8 (03:37:42):
Yeah, it's it's they're not really a free agency.

Speaker 2 (03:37:46):
Now.

Speaker 8 (03:37:46):
There's some drivers that will become available where their contract
comes up and they probably know they want to move
to a different team and they probably or they're getting
calls from like there's no tempering rules or anything. So
like an owner can call a guy and say, hey,
how mean were year you got on your deal? Or
would you can you leave your deal? Can I buy
it out? Would you want to come to my team?
I want you as my driver?

Speaker 2 (03:38:07):
What do we got to do?

Speaker 8 (03:38:08):
And so you may be able to pay that team
money to get him out of his contract early.

Speaker 2 (03:38:15):
Does that happen very much?

Speaker 8 (03:38:16):
It has happened in the past. It's not a very
common thing, but I mean there's no real rules to
or we don't have a free agency period or anything
like that.

Speaker 2 (03:38:24):
Have you ever approached somebody or gotten somebody?

Speaker 8 (03:38:27):
I've not, you know, my team my team's kind of
like taking these rookies in, these up and comers, and
we've got more we got more people. Yeah, we got
more people kind of coming to us than we have
seats to have very you know the people. But in
the top tier cup level, it's probably a lot more
cutthroat and a little more competitive.

Speaker 2 (03:38:48):
Trying to how many times when you were a driver
did you get called from other ownership.

Speaker 8 (03:38:53):
Or once in my career, so like I was, my
deal at d I at my dad's company was ending,
and I had two or three teams come to court
me or you know, pitch me of their deal and
I and I knew I wasn't gonna stay where I
was at. So I was I was all years and
went and met with everybody on each team and kind

(03:39:14):
of took the one deal that I liked. But that
happened once and I was happy to. I was happy
where I ended up and wanted to stay there till
I retired.

Speaker 2 (03:39:21):
And I was lucky enough to do that. That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (03:39:24):
I know we're wrapping up like in football when you're
playing or any sport in general, like there's things you
hate doing, but then when you leave the sport, and
you're like, man, I missed that practice, like with like, yes,
did you miss practice?

Speaker 2 (03:39:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (03:39:38):
I hated practice because practice was a lot of times
like testing was. Testing and practice are very similar. In testing,
you go to a racetrack in the middle of the week,
way before weeks before you're going to race there, and
you're by yourself. Usually there might be another team there,
but usually you're by yourself and you're out there running alone,

(03:39:58):
and it's you and your team. Go out, run five
ten laps, come in, make a change, and it's very
monotonous and boring, and you're just running and running and
you almost get bored of telling them the feedback Okay, yeah,
that made it a little better. I didn't feel anything.
We're just doing nothing here. I'm just spinning my wheels.
But the team's got a process and they got a
plan for those two days you're testing, and they are

(03:40:19):
going to get through that plan and learn everything they
want to learn and then go home. You don't realize
that as a driver, you're just bored to death running
by yourself. When you practice on the race weekends, everyone
else is out there, but it's the same thing. You're practicing,
changing things your team's learning. It's not a race. There's
no check or flag, there's no winter loser. You're just
making laps and it's like an hour or whatever.

Speaker 2 (03:40:39):
And I hated it.

Speaker 8 (03:40:41):
I thought I was boring, and I hated to get
ready and go do it, and it was getting in
the way of whatever I wanted to do. But I
wanted to race race. The race was fun. I was
excited about the race, but the practice was just kind
of boring. But right in the last year, I was
sitting in my car and I think I was at
Kansas O Speedway and we're in the middle of practice,

(03:41:02):
and I sat there and it just dawned on me.
I was like, one there'll be a day in a
very short period of time where we won't I won't
ever practice again. And I was like, and I was
watching my guys. They were meandering around the car, changing
little things, jacking the car up, gonna adjust this, gonna
adjust that, and they're just moving around and I got
to watching them. I'm in my garage stall. It's every

(03:41:24):
other cars in their garage stall. People are pulling in
and out going running laps, and it's busy, and I
was just sitting in there I was like, yeah, I'm
gonna miss this part. I hated this part and I
should have appreciated it more. But I'm gonna miss I'm
gonna miss watching my guys that I love. I love
these guys, they're my guys. I'm gonna miss watching them work.

(03:41:44):
I'm gonna miss coming in here and taking this car
to them and saying, hey, can you fix it? I
got this doesn't work right, or this doesn't turn good,
or it doesn't strike, it doesn't steer right, and they're
gonna try to fix it. I'm gonna miss trying to
fix that puzzle with them and work on it. And
you know, I think I knew I was going to
miss driving in the race. I knew I was going

(03:42:04):
to miss the competition, right, But it was the prep
work that I thought I hated that I ended up
missing as well.

Speaker 3 (03:42:13):
Beautifully said, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:42:15):
Yeah, do you ever remember those times, Like I can
remember a few situations where you're kind of sitting there
and you're kind of taking it in, just being like,
as much as this shit sucks, because practice did like
training camp, you know, there'd just be them days where
you're just in the middle of the season or whatever.
But you're just sitting there, taking in the breeze, taking
in the scene, the heat. If it's training camp here,

(03:42:35):
it's like one day, we're not even going to be
able to do this anymore.

Speaker 3 (03:42:38):
Yeah, I feel it was always like during camp, like
and you like you were getting those beautiful situations where
you got a small group of boys and anyone just
fed up and everyone just wants to vent and talk
shit about how this is just bullshit. All this were
doing sucks, and like you let everybody vent and you're
sitting there, whether it's like we're all sitting in the
cold tubs after like like a couple guys are cramping

(03:43:01):
in the corner and he's just like this is such
a hot day and we got to do it again tomorrow.
Everyone's just complaining. But then eventually that conversation will turn
to some would bring it up be like it's crazy,
this is not gonna last forever, and that's like a
moment you have you're like holy shit, like yeah, this
is kind of these are these is the good old
days right now you're in it just sucking is the
good old days because it is the stuff like practice sucks,

(03:43:24):
like camp August, I wake up now in August, and
I smile to myself knowing that there's about two thousand
guys out there dying.

Speaker 2 (03:43:30):
Yeah, and I'm just in this cozy man right now.

Speaker 3 (03:43:33):
This is I'm like the little hen I my kids
for a minute before I go to work.

Speaker 2 (03:43:36):
Yeah, something like that. And that's kind of nice. But
then there's like a piece.

Speaker 3 (03:43:39):
It's like, man, it would be nice to have like
fifty three guys that are just like embracing the suck
together and everyone's handling a little different way, but we're
all feeling the same thing, which is this is really
hard and we're doing it together.

Speaker 2 (03:43:50):
Yeah, that's the beautiful part about it.

Speaker 8 (03:43:52):
And I agree.

Speaker 2 (03:43:53):
This has been awesome. Yeah, it's fun. Thank you so much. Man.

Speaker 8 (03:43:56):
We had a little marathon here.

Speaker 2 (03:43:58):
Yeah. Yeah, how long was this episode? Yeah? Good work.

Speaker 8 (03:44:02):
What's what's the average these days for you guys?

Speaker 3 (03:44:05):
We said, well, solid, like I think it's our average.

Speaker 8 (03:44:12):
That's good. All right, I'll take it as I'll call
it a success.

Speaker 2 (03:44:17):
So much fun. Thank you for the gifts. Yeah, I
hope everybody enjoyed. Big hugs, tiny kisses for don't forget
to subscribe.

Speaker 8 (03:44:23):
Congratulations to Busting Man and the success the new partnerships
with the Light Fan Duel. Hey, I'm on team man
Hussar Bush. We worked with Fan Duel over at Dirty
Mooe Media.

Speaker 2 (03:44:36):
Let's go yeah some more. We need some more bust
with the boys Dirty.

Speaker 8 (03:44:40):
I need an Xavier win tonight.

Speaker 2 (03:44:41):
I know that.

Speaker 8 (03:44:44):
That's gonna get my parlayh.

Speaker 2 (03:44:46):
Who do you go win in the next championship Michigan.

Speaker 8 (03:44:51):
You uh march madness?

Speaker 2 (03:44:53):
Yeah? Well, have you done a bracket yet? No?

Speaker 8 (03:44:57):
I'm a tar Hill fan and I know they're in
a bad way, but it they just they played last night?

Speaker 2 (03:45:02):
Yeah they did.

Speaker 8 (03:45:04):
I had That's one. They were one leg of my parlay.
It was Alabama State, Carolina and now Xavier tonight.

Speaker 3 (03:45:11):
You know if you can put futures bets together as
a parlay, Yeah, yeah really, I actually one plus one
eight thirteen plus eight thirteen if you want.

Speaker 8 (03:45:19):
I hate staring at that damn thing. I did that
with Kaitlyn Clark's average points for a year and I'm like, golly,
every time I log in, I'm like, it's stair. It's
staring me right in the face because it's not you know,
you gotta wait months for this thing to finish. Out
and I'm like, so, I like, I'm on the quick Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:45:37):
But the futures parlay with with fandol and obviously this
is uh, this is actually while March Madison is still
going on. Yeah, but you can parlay futures of like
teams getting too Sweet sixteen Yeah, around the thirty final four. Yeah,
you can parlay together. And I got a plus three
thousand if you are three thousands?

Speaker 8 (03:45:54):
Saw that something like that?

Speaker 2 (03:45:56):
You saw you beat this?

Speaker 8 (03:45:57):
No, I saw it on social media.

Speaker 2 (03:45:58):
I know what you do.

Speaker 8 (03:46:01):
You like it, I know what you're doing. What I did.
I got on a parlay that you had during the
NFL season and it was a rough one. I don't
want to admit what we bet not no amount of money.
I had one unit, but like the teams we were
betting on, I was it was a yeah, yeah, yeah,
now you know what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (03:46:20):
I know, yeah, because we were texting. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:46:22):
The fall, you'll see more of those parlays as well.
Yeah yeah, damn Will And I got to this point
late in the season last year. It was like the
higher the plus odds, the better the parlay was. Yeah,
like your nine legs plus ten thousand.

Speaker 8 (03:46:37):
Right, that's ridiculous. But if that's no way to live,
you're going to.

Speaker 3 (03:46:43):
Be you but an iPad showing your college football twenty
five of everything. Yeah, we can put together some spicy
parlays like.

Speaker 8 (03:46:52):
My, my spicy parlay, and I might get clown for this,
but like I'll go in. It was right before March madness,
and it's kind. You can do this now with the
ones versus the sixteens. But I like stack all the ones,
you know, the ones to beat the sixteens. So I'll
build like a plus two hundred with like nine nine legs.

Speaker 2 (03:47:13):
See, that's a crazy way to live in my opinion,
but those are almost automatic. But you're getting you're guarantee
guarantee to plus two hundred odds with a nine leg parlay, and.

Speaker 8 (03:47:24):
They all should win.

Speaker 2 (03:47:25):
I am.

Speaker 8 (03:47:26):
I would say in the past month, I am probably
eighteen and two with seven or more legs in my
parlays in basketball alone.

Speaker 2 (03:47:39):
Hey, I was gonna snap, can I'll.

Speaker 8 (03:47:42):
Show you the I'll open up, I'll open up my my,
where's the path, I'll show it to you.

Speaker 3 (03:47:48):
If you if you took half the effort as you
do it, that that game as you'd be a billionaire.

Speaker 8 (03:47:53):
Yeah, you gotta get careful because I mean you got
to do like four hundred four to fifty to five
hundred odds on seven or nine parlays to get to
like plus one hundred hundred three hundredor something like that.
But it's you know, it's gone usually play. Yeah, that's
probably not a popular way to do it.

Speaker 2 (03:48:08):
Now, you just said eighteen and to the way you
did it. I'm trying to criticize, like I'm and eighteen.

Speaker 8 (03:48:14):
Well your bet you're a plus ten thousand.

Speaker 2 (03:48:18):
O buddy, I won a few games.

Speaker 8 (03:48:20):
That's kind of the number.

Speaker 2 (03:48:22):
Parlays. I'm like I said, for betting straight up. Yeah, parlays.
I we do on our gambling.

Speaker 8 (03:48:28):
I want to join. I want to tell some of
your bets, man, but you gonna kind of clean it
up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (03:48:37):
Come on, we will, we'll clean them up. We'll get
dialed in for football season. Let's go. I'll even run
them by you. Let's go.

Speaker 8 (03:48:44):
Yeah, I'll put hey, I'll get on, I'll tell your bets.

Speaker 2 (03:48:47):
I ain't care, I ain't scared. There you go.

Speaker 8 (03:48:49):
Appreciate you, appreciate you, y'all.

Speaker 1 (03:48:51):
Man.

Speaker 2 (03:48:52):
It's fun.

Speaker 8 (03:48:52):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (03:48:53):
Yeah, big hugs, tiny kisses, three hour, damn right.

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