Best of Chuck & Buck 11-17

We grabbed some of the best moments of Monday's show, filled with Seahawks analysis and more! - Seahawks fall to Rams, but it wasn't all bad. - 12th Man News with Gregg Bell - We got Naylor! - MMQB with Hugh Millen - MMQB with Hugh Millen and Mike Holmgren.

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Speaker 2 (01:04):
Hey, good Monday morning, and welcome into the radio show.
It is six am, dark and early here on this Monday,
and we have assembled for a four hour radio program
where we will discuss many things Seattle sports, including the
Seahawks loss to the Los Angeles Rams twenty one to
nineteen and the re signing of Josh Naylor, which we'll

(01:25):
get to here in a matter of moments as well.
Good morning to you. Hope you all had a great weekend.
Ashley Ryan is here. Looks like she had a great weekend.
Look at the glow on her face. Hi.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
Yeah, yeah it was good.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
It was good.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
Yeah, it's a cracking game on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Got a win that was fun, very nice.

Speaker 6 (01:42):
Stressed out about the Seahawks game leading up to it
all day yesterday and then watched it.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
Stressed out.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
That was fun. Yeah, there was never any moment not
to be kind of stressed on your edge of your seat.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
Of that case, there was it which was crazy for
how terrible we looked at times.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, yeah, man, but also good at times, which we'll
cover here today. Buncky Jake since here as well, the
former Mariner.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Good weekend, great weekend. Yeah, yeah, a lot of chilling out.
Didn't do a ton of weather, wasn't wonderful. But yeah,
I got outside a little bit with the kids, and yeah,
I watched a lot of football. I watched a lot
of time, too much football.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I was just like, I'm done with this, and then
Lions Eagles came on. I'm like, this is pretty intriguing.
I guess my ass will continue to turn to mush.
That's fine.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
Yeah, like a couple more hours.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Then I get done with it, take a shower, and
I go hang out in the living room and like
fall asleep immediately.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
Yeah, for sure, what a day.

Speaker 7 (02:38):
What a day?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, I mean it's my wife doesn't ask anymore about
what games I have to watch. She just assumes if
I'm watching it, then I need to watch it. My kids,
on the other hand, Yeah, my kids on the other hand, are.

Speaker 8 (02:52):
Like, Dad, do you have to watch this one too? Yep, yep,
I do. This one is a must watch.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
But then yeah, got down to the Detroit game and
it was like, don't have to, but I'm gonna. Ah,
I'm sorry. Yeah, they wanted to watch Monday Night Raw.
Oh from last Monday.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
I was it was Sunday Nay.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Look, okay, hey it's Dan Campbell. It is Monday Night Raw.
Kinda yeah, that's right, very unpredictable. Never know when he's
gonna come off the top rope and go for it
on fourth and thirty two from his own fourgy Well,
welcome into the show. We got a lot to cover today.
Of course, some Seahawks rams will be the primary focus.

(03:34):
It is a Monday morning quarterback day, and all of
our Titans of Analysis will be here today to break
it all down for you. It is a loss twenty
one to nineteen to the Los Angeles Rams in Los Angeles,
and I realize all the world is screaming Sam Darnold
doesn't have what it takes in big games.

Speaker 9 (03:52):
Man.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I just don't see it that way as we sit
here on a Monday morning. I mean, I don't know,
maybe I'm crazy, but I saw a head coach who
pretty much took Matt Stafford and Sean McVay to work,
took him to school. Yesterday. After the first quarter, Matt
Stafford finished with one hundred and thirty passing yards. He's

(04:13):
been the best quarterback in the National Football League until
the second quarter of yesterday's game. I saw a team
that had lost the turnover battle four to one. And
I saw a team yesterday that, if not for a
punt that flucishly went out of bounds, that the one

(04:34):
yard line and you had to go ninety well not
ninety nine yards, but you had to go that much
further to get into field goal range with little time remaining.
A team that went one in four in the red
zone and settled for field goals all day long, a
team that nearly doubled up the yardage output of the
Los Angeles Rams yesterday, that held the ball for nearly

(04:55):
twice the amount of time that the Mighty La Rams.
I mean, they faced a great team yesterday, a great offense,
a great defense, and despite all of that that happened,
they found themselves with a chance to win the game
late on a sixty one yard field goal which Jason
Myers would have made from seventy earlier in the game,
and for whatever reason, just didn't hit it. True, I mean,

(05:17):
despite the frustration, and yeah, I think Sam Darnold cost
us the game yesterday, and I think he'd be the
first one to admit that with his four interceptions. But
despite it all, I kind of came away with it.
Maybe I'm crazy. We're better than this team and we're
gonna show it later on this year. So yeah, we're
a game and a half out of first place at

(05:39):
this point. But to me, after the first quarter, Mike McDonald,
everything settled in and I believe that we just completely
outplayed them and yet lost the game by two points.
That's how I feel this Monday morning.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Well, I you know how I look at the glass
half full for the most part. I mean I came
away with far more positive thoughts than negative thoughts. I
mean the fact that, yeah, your quarterback threw four picks
and you still basically had a chance to win right
down to the end.

Speaker 8 (06:09):
It says something.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I mean, most of the time, most teams, you just
put throw any two teams out there, and if one
of them throws four interceptions, it's not typically you're not
typically going to have a last second chance at winning
the ball game. That's just you're usually going to lose
by double digits, it seems. And so I mean, I
don't know if I'd go so far as to say
I felt like you're better or the Seahawks are better

(06:32):
than them.

Speaker 8 (06:32):
But they controlled the ball. I mean, they moved the ball.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
It wasn't like it was it was just when they
got down in the red zone they ended up having
to settle for field goals. You know of four times
I think it was. And then there was a couple
other times where you're getting right inside a field goal
range or close to it at least, and you have
a pick, and yet the defense bote up to only
give up twenty one points to a team that's been rolling.

Speaker 8 (06:57):
The way that they have.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
There's definitely positives to look at. It was a bad
game by Sam. There was some you know, just kind
of off, you know, it was it was off a
little bit timing wise. Throw a few of those picks
were felt like it was late, you know, like an
extra hitch, and all of a sudden they were jumping
in on the first hitch. And so, yeah, there's there's
a lot of things to clean up. That's why you

(07:18):
end up losing that ball game. I definitely wouldn't think
that they're flying home from Los Angeles thinking, man, we're
just not on the same level as those guys. I'm
sure that they're thinking, man, we had every opportunity to
win that ball game.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
We should have won that game.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Yeah, and they have to be thinking that, I know.

Speaker 6 (07:33):
I think Leonard Williams after the game was interviewed and
said like, yeah, we're ready. You know, I'm already waiting
for them to come back up to Seattle, like I
think they think. I think they let that one get
away that should have been our win. And especially after
the way the game started, you stop them on their
first possession and then to have that interception run back
all the way to the three was it the three
yard liners? You know, at that point, the defense is like, oh,

(07:56):
we just took care of business, you know, and they
and they almost took care of business again. I mean
they did technically holding him to a field goal there,
but uh or no, that was a touchdown. But yeah,
But I just think there were so many positive things,
especially defensively, to take away from that game. And then
even with Donald throwing those four interceptions and still having

(08:17):
the composure to lead the team at the end of
the game to have a chance to win, it was good.

Speaker 9 (08:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
As a matter of fact, that's yes, he threw four interceptions.
He cost us the game. Yeah, And if you ask Sam,
he's gonna say, I can't do that, right, you know.
And yet that gunslinger mentality that he's played with all
season long, that everybody's been raving about and I'm not
just talking about here in Seattle everywhere to he took

(08:47):
that same mentality in and I didn't see a guy
that at any point was starting to question himself. Mike
McDonald and Clint Kubiak have clearly given them the instructions
go out there and rip it. Even after the game,
Mike McDonald was asked Sam Darnold's performance, he said, fine
with it, went out there and ripped it. Those were
the words that he used in the postgame press conference.

(09:09):
And certainly no head coach wants to lose the turnover
battle four to one. No head coach is ever going
to give a gold star to somebody that throws four interceptions.
But despite the four interceptions, Sam was Sam's game never
really changed. He led a touchdown drive in the fourth
quarter and let a feel goal attempt drive in the

(09:30):
fourth quarter, which, again, if that ball doesn't somehow go
out at the one, I think we win the game.
I think that if you're starting at the twenty, I
mean nineteen yards difference. Yeah, Now to mention the backs
against the wall feeling that you have to play with
when you're at the one yard line, you can't just
come out and do your normal two minute drill at
that point. You got to get out of harm's way

(09:50):
first and that takes time. So for him to lead
basically two scoring drives despite throwing four interceptions in the game,
I just didn't see a guy whose confidence was shaken.
I think he threw some ill timed passes. Other than that, Yeah,
he I mean, he certainly, I mean led more drives

(10:12):
than Matt Stafford did yesterday. I watched Jared Goff play
the Eagles last night, Mushy button all, and I saw
a guy that lost his confidence, that couldn't complete a
pass that you know, look like he was afraid to
get hit, was afraid to make the mistake. Where I
didn't see that from Sam Donald. Yes, Sam Donald's fault

(10:36):
that we lost the game. He doesn't throw those four interceptions,
Seahawks probably win the game. But I just, I mean,
I just heard this narrative like that everything's on the
line for Sam Like we're gonna sit here on a
Monday morning and ask, Okay, what does this mean about
Sam Donald. I think he played the exact same way.
He got caught with his hand in the cookie jar

(10:56):
a couple times too many, playing very aggressive football, and
I don't think anything changes in my opinion about Sam Donald.
He's been playing that way and playing very well all
season long. I don't feel any differently about him. Am
I worried that Sam Donald's not the right guy the
next time we face the Rams or to try to

(11:16):
lead us in the second half of the season. Not
for one second, so played them, made four reckless plays
yesterday and the Rams caught every single one of them.
Other than that, though, he outplayed Matt Stafford, who's the
MVP of the National Football League right now.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, well, I mean it, I think that he just didn't. Yeah,
he had some mistakes, obviously, I think it was late
getting rid of a couple of them, and yet he
just if you do that, you put yourself in harm's way.
I do think that punt that you're talking about, I
mean that's about as perfect as you can possibly place it,
and then yet it's there's some luck involved with that,
and that did put you kind of behind the eight ball.

(11:54):
I think they only had what the one time out
left at that point as well, So it kind of
felt like, boy, you are it's gonna need your gonna
need a near perfect, you know, two minute offensive drive
to kind of get down there and get to where
you really feel good about the.

Speaker 8 (12:11):
Game winning field goal.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
And they had a couple mishaps here and there that
were just you know a couple of plays that didn't
weren't positive, and you didn't just go bing bing bing
and get right down.

Speaker 8 (12:20):
There the way they could.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
But Yeah, ultimately you, you floundered a little bit, You
had a couple of mistakes that ended up turning into
points for them and not points for you. In a
two point ball game, it doesn't take but one or
two things to change. I think that the team, the
rest of his teammates kind of feel like, dude, that's fine,
that's gonna happen, right, I mean, is for is a

(12:41):
bad game, right threes are really is still a pretty
bad game. But you're gonna have some interceptions and over
the course of the season they're gonna accumulate. I think
that if anything, it would just be okay. If you
go out and he turns a ball over a bunch
of times against Tennessee, then it's a talking point.

Speaker 8 (12:57):
That's then it's conversation.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Otherwise it's not a it's just a yeah, you had
a bad game, and really it was you were kind
of controlling the ball and you're playing against a really
good defense that gets really stout down in the red zone,
and so you're going you're when you're going against a
good team, sometimes they're going to make good plays and
if it if you combine it with poor timing or
just a bad decision on your part, like that jump pass.

(13:19):
You know, if you okay, it's just not what you
need to do right there. That's not the city that
doesn't call for that in that situation. Those are the
type of things, the small little things, and it's so
important for a quarterback to not do that because, yeah,
you find yourself in a very evenly matched ball game
coming up on the short end.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, I mean, I just keep going back to we
tell him to let it rip, and I think he
let it rip, and yeah he got I'll repeat this.
I think he got the hand caught in the cookie jar.
You you know you were a kid. I got a
lot more cookies than I got caught trying to slip cookies,
you know, when mom wasn't looking. I ate a lot
more cookies than I did get caught. And I think
he got caught yesterday. I mean I watched the Bills

(13:57):
Buccaneers game pretty much the entire thing. Baker Mayfield could
have thrown nine interceptions yesterday. Josh Allen could have thrown
eight interceptions yesterday, but not every single one of them
got caught by the defense. Sam Donald's four interception possibilities
got caught by the defense yesterday, and so Yeah, he's
got to wear it. And I'll be the first person

(14:19):
this morning to say, we win that game if Sam
Donald doesn't commit four turnovers. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 8 (14:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
But on the other hand, I think that I am
encouraged that he never really changed the way that he's
been playing all season long. And I think that's a
byproduct of Mike McDonald and Clint Kubiak. They got the
version of Sam Donald that they want to get, obviously,
with the obvious being we can't turn the ball over

(14:46):
that many times.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
Yeah, And as you said, Sam would be the first
one to say that. I mean he probably that whole
flight home, just was replaying each one of those interceptions,
watching the video, just thinking why did I make that choice?

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Why did I do that?

Speaker 6 (15:00):
Because I mean I was sitting there yelling at the TV,
like what are you doing? There was a couple moments where,
at least on a couple of those interceptions where it
seemed like, were you actually just throwing it to the Rams?
I mean, there wasn't, but he was also under so
much pressure. But I mean, because we can't take away
from the Rams defense at all.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
The Rams that made grazy.

Speaker 6 (15:19):
Yeah, they were phenomenal and if you would have told
me when that game started and they scored two touchdowns
and we were only scoring field goals, if you would
have told me at the end of the game we
would have been kicking the ball for a chance to
win it, I would have laughed at you.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
And that has everything to do with Mike McDonald, which
I think is the other storyline here, because the other
thing that we spend even more time on last week,
more than what does this say about Sam Donald if
he doesn't get the job done? We spent very little
time on that, even though it did become a topic. Well,
we spent the majority of the week talking about is

(15:55):
McDonald versus McVeigh and McDonald won. I mean McDonald just
completely out schemed. I mean Matt Stafford has not looked
confused all season long. He was confused for three quarters.
I mean he was handed a ball at the three
yard line, it took him four plays to get it
in on a touchdown, and then they had a couple
of other touchdown drives. Other than that, Matt Stafford was

(16:17):
throwing dirting a lot of balls, throwing a lot of
balls away. He barely completed fifty percent of his passes yesterday.
He didn't say take a sack, and he didn't commit
a turnover. And maybe that goes to a lot more
experience than what Sam Donald has playing in big games
and just playing period. But he looked as confused as

(16:38):
I've seen Matt Stafford look in a Rams uniform yesterday.
And that's all has to do with Mike McDonald and
his defense. He kept Matt Stafford from getting into a
rhythm again pretty much for three quarters yesterday.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
It was a well coached game, I thought. I felt
like both teams came out and did some things. I mean,
it's hard for me to compare the just the stats
side by side, simply because one of the positives that
you take out of a loss is how well Seattle
did move the ball against their defense. Now again, didn't
do a whole heck of a lot except for kickfield

(17:13):
goals when they got down there for the first three
quarters until that that final touchdown that they gave them
the chance. And and yet so to me, it's kind
of like, well, the Rams defense is pretty good, it's
a it is a really good defense, and yet the
offense showed up and controlled the ball. And then the
way in which the score went down. It's not like
I think the Rams were by any stretch thinking oh,

(17:34):
we can take our foot off the gas. And yet
there also was a we're just trying to methodically, you wanted,
they wanted to put together good drives, and when they would,
when they would get a couple first downs, then it
would stall out or it would the defense would end
up stopping them. So to me, it was the way
in which the score was of the game. I don't
necessarily compare the stats equal to each other because it's

(17:55):
just like, well, it's not like we were in prevent
defense and they were taking their foot off the gas.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
That was three quarters worth. They had twelve first downs
for the entire game.

Speaker 8 (18:05):
Yeah, they just didn't have But that's what I mean.
They just didn't have the ball.

Speaker 9 (18:08):
I mean, it was like.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Away from them, or we kept it away from them. Offensively,
that's the part where that's where it seems like they're
not really too even steven things. But it's the same game,
I mean, you want to That's where I'm giving credit
to the Seahawks defense and to Mike McDonald because they
didn't allow them to sustain these seven minute drives that

(18:29):
I mean was it the third quarter or second quarter?
That was basically three drives a seven minute drive for
the Seahawks, and then they got the ball and punted,
and then another seven minute drive or the entire quarter
they had the ball, and so it was just one
of those. And yet at that point in time, it's
fourteen to nine going into halftime, So it was just like, wow,
you just felt like you you absolutely dominated that quarter
in particular, you had the ball the entire time, and

(18:52):
yet you still find yourself on the losing end. So
it's a It was a good game and definitely the
matchup of McVeigh versus McDonald lived up to the hype.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Wait for the rematch.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I can't wait for the analysis from our experts, which
is coming your way. Let's find out what's on tap?

Speaker 8 (19:09):
What's on tep, what's on tap?

Speaker 2 (19:12):
All right? Rams do win over the Seahawks twenty one
to nineteen, so they take an essence a game and
a half lead in the NFC West seven and three.
Seahawks will next play at Tennessee against the worst team
in the National Football their trap game. That will be
next Sunday, so you better bring it. Grace Zabel left
this game with an injury, and it did not look good,
and that is not a guy you want to lose.

(19:34):
So we'll get an update from Greg Bell at seven
oh five, and then at eight o'clock Hugh Millan will
join us with Monday Morning Quarterback Today. Mike Homem gonna
be with us at nine o'clock. So we've got two
and a half plus hours of analysis of yesterday's lost
to the Los Angeles Rams. The Philadelphia Eagles won over
Detroit sixteen to nine late last night. Big controversial play

(19:57):
at the end, a pass interference which denied Detroit getting
the ball back and a chance to tie the game,
maybe even win the game the way that Dan Campbell
calls things, and instead it's a Philadelphia victory. Something we'll
talk to Gene Sterator about tomorrow. But we've got your
entire scoreboard coming up at six point thirty with cold

(20:18):
turkey sandwich aboard of scores. U dub gets back on
the winning track forty nine thirteen blowout win over Purdue Saturday,
But the big upset. The big talking point in college
football Saturday was Oklahoma upsetting Alabama. Oklahoma's jumped them in
the APE poll. They're up to eight. Alabama fell six

(20:38):
spots all the way down to number ten. Ohio State
is still ranked number one. We'll certainly talk more college
football tomorrow. Kraken have one two straight, including four to
one over San Jose Saturday night in front of Ashley Ryan.
They will play tomorrow at Detroit against the fighting Everett
Fitzhughes and Josh Naylor, which we will find time to

(21:00):
talk about today, but certainly designate it for more time tomorrow.
If you haven't heard great news Mariner fans. The first
free agent to sign this offseason, like legit free agent
is Josh Naylor, and he has decided to re sign
with the Seattle Mariners, a five year deal estimation between

(21:20):
ninety and one hundred million dollars. He has to pass
a physical today, but when you re sign with your
own team, they kind of know, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
They know what they're dealing with.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, so I don't think that would be any kind
of a hurdle to have to clear. But today we
should finalize the Josh Naylor deal. He's going to remain.
A Seattle Mariner analysis coming your way later on in
the show. And finally, sad news, Kenny easily passed away
over the weekend and one of the all time great
players in NFL history, certainly one of the all time

(21:52):
great Seahawks. And so he left us too early. So
Kenny easily one of the great Seahawks passing away over
the weekend. All right, we'll get to a lot today.
Coming up next, cold Turkey sandwich. A board of scores
on Chucking Buck Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.

Speaker 10 (22:09):
Donald given time off his back, fuck gets intercepted. It's
Cameron Kinchins who made his name against Seattle last year.
Stretch play. Williams has a scene in More Cuts It
back Hensithe to ten inside the five, first and goal
at the one. Stafford has Adams. This time it's a touchdown.

(22:30):
Donald hit as he throws, it flutters and it's picks.
It's the Rent with the interception. Here's the fad looking
downfield for Smith and Jack Bob who plucked it with
one hand.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
Jay S n second and ten.

Speaker 10 (22:44):
There's Nikua paul is out. It is recovered by Seattle
Kirsten twenty. Donald zips one and it's a start interception.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
Kitchens with his second.

Speaker 11 (22:57):
Of the day.

Speaker 10 (22:58):
Donald in trouble jump throw intercepted for the third time.

Speaker 8 (23:04):
It's Walker.

Speaker 10 (23:05):
It is a touchdown, the first of the day for
the Seahawks finally find the end zone. It's a one
score game with two twenty three to play. Shaheed watches
it bouts inside the five and out of bounds inside
the one. Wow eighth and Evans there's no way he's
ever made a better punt.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Tod Focks Television, Joe Davis and we can tell you
who you're rooting for. La Boy on the call there
with Greg Olsen yesterday. A lot of highlights, very good
entertaining football game. Unfortunately, Sam Darnold committed four turnovers in
the contest, and that certainly was the difference in the game,
as the Rams win twenty one to nineteen over the

(23:51):
Seahawks in Los Angeles. Despite the fact that the Seahawks
had one hundred and forty nine more passing yards, had
twenty six first downs to their twelve, possessed the ball
for almost twice the amount of time that the Rams did.
It was La that converted on fourth downs where Seahawks
were settling for field goals, and it's the Rams that

(24:13):
commit to or create four interceptions against Sam Darneld. The
difference in the game twenty one to nineteen, and it's
the Rams who are now first place in the NFC
West by a game and if you count the tiebreaker
over the Seahawks right now, a game and a half.
We'll be talking about it a lot for the rest
of the show today. Good morning, Welcome in. It is

(24:34):
Chuck and Buck in the morning Sports Radio ninety three
point three KHRFM on a frostbrewed course light Choose Chill Monday,
counting you down to Monday Night Football tonight at five
fifteen pm. Of course, we also have frost brewed course
light Choose Chill headlines to rip through. Before Greg Bell
joins us in about a minute from now, he'll give
us an update on Gray Zabel's injury. He left the

(24:56):
game and did not look good. We'll find out more
from Greg here in a matter of moments. College football
u doub over Purdue Saturday, forty nine to thirteen. It
was a laugher. Kracking have won two straight, including a
four to one win over the Baby Sharks of San
Jose on Saturday night. They'll play tomorrow in Detroit against
the Red Wings, and Josh Naylor is back. He is

(25:18):
going to make it official today, it sounds like he
will sign a five year contract with the Seattle Mariners,
the first major free agent to sign in the offseason,
and he's decided to re sign with the city that
he fell so deeply in love with over the last
couple of months. Josh Naylor will be back at first
base for the Mariners this year and for five years

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Speaker 2 (27:09):
Well, obviously there was no bubbly in the in the
Seahawks locker room after a twenty one to nineteen loss
where they lost the turnover battle four to one. What
was the mode? What was the theme amongst coaches and
players after that loss yesterday?

Speaker 11 (27:24):
Well, you know what, despite what fans may want him
to have been, they were not laying on the floor
in misery and pain and wailing and the sky was falling.
They had a pretty good handle on what the Rams did,
both offensively and defensively. They felt, especially on defense, that
They did what no other team in the league has

(27:45):
done with Matthew Stafford and mcveigh's offense.

Speaker 9 (27:48):
So far this.

Speaker 11 (27:48):
Season, the Rams had beaten four consecutive teams by fourteen
or more points. Stafford had become the first quarterback in
the NFL to throw for four plus touchdown passes and
no interceptions in three consecutive games.

Speaker 9 (27:59):
And all that ended this.

Speaker 11 (28:01):
The only reason the Rams scored twenty one points was
that McDonald handed them two of their three touchdowns.

Speaker 9 (28:08):
They handed it to.

Speaker 11 (28:09):
Them with interceptions that gave the Rams two drive starts
for touchdowns. First two touchdowns well not to two of
the three touchdowns were three yards and twenty five yards,
so and even then the Seahawks defense a couple times
more turned the Rams away. So when I talked to
Leonard Williams and ten and will Sue and the guys

(28:30):
on the defensive side, Williams just fight out to said,
I can't wait to see these guys again. Mike McDonald
offered unsolicited, We're gonna see these guys a lot, maybe
a third time, meaning in the playoff matchup.

Speaker 9 (28:44):
And they were welcoming that they thought over the hole,
that they.

Speaker 11 (28:49):
Played well enough to win that game. But when your
quarterback throws four interceptions into tight coverage and it's looked
fooled by what the Rams are doing, and we can
get into.

Speaker 9 (28:59):
That when I talk to Cooper Cup about it.

Speaker 11 (29:02):
That's the difference Donald flop in his biggest game yet
for the Seahawks, And it leaves questions of one, who
is the real Sam Donald when the games are big
and the teams are good.

Speaker 9 (29:14):
And who are these Seahawks?

Speaker 11 (29:15):
They still have not beaten any top seventeen, the playoff
caliber team in the NFC. They still are behind the
Rams and the forty nine Ers, who they both lost
to this season. They're still down the pecking order in
the NFC West until further notice. And that's really the
most damning thing that came out of yesterday.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Gee, what was the reason behind the picks? I mean,
sometimes you just have an errand throw. To me, it
felt like there was an extra hitch or just a
delay in getting the ball to the guy that he
chose to throw it to that allowed the guys to
kind of jump in front of at least a couple
of those picks. And so did he give any explanation
or did you see any reason why why those were happening.

(29:54):
It wasn't just you know, horrible throws. It was kind
of bad decision or late decision.

Speaker 8 (29:59):
What was it to you, Well, a.

Speaker 11 (30:02):
Couple things Bucky won on the fourth interception. We got
to parse them all because there were a few. The
fourth interception, down twenty one to twelve in the fourth quarter,
they were on the edge of field goal range.

Speaker 9 (30:12):
It's third down.

Speaker 11 (30:13):
It's going to be a fifty plus yard field goal.
Myers had just made a fifty seven yard of the
same end. That was on Donald's mind when he got
pressured up the middle and he stepped up and he
tried to jump past to Elijah Royo, and Donald was
trying to avoid the loss of five six yards there
that would have pushed them out of field goal range
and caused them either go for a fourth and long

(30:33):
or have to punt and lose a chance of making
a one score game again. He said he was thinking
about that, so when he jumped past.

Speaker 12 (30:40):
It it advisedly.

Speaker 11 (30:42):
He said, he saw a defender in his face, so
he couldn't see the defensive back behind the defensive lineman
who was standing right in front.

Speaker 9 (30:50):
Of a royal to intercept that pass, so.

Speaker 11 (30:51):
He just never saw the guy. Cooper Cup after the
game explained that the Rams did a really good job
of switching their safety alignments from at the snap to
post snap. They were doing a heavy box eight man
in the box with the safety down near the line
of scrimmage to combat the Seahawks run, and then at
the snap off and they ran out in that second safety.

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Often Kitchens, who intercepted Donald twice, ran from down in
the box out to a double high cover two look
with two safeties deep. So the Seahawks were running routes
and Donald was making reads that he thought was single
high coverage when in fact it was too deep. And
two of his four interceptions are directly to Kinchins in

(31:33):
the middle of the field, one of those safeties who
had been moved around the snap. So credit Chris Shuller indirectly,
that's what Cooper Cup said. Credit the Rams, he said,
but Chris Shula, the defensive coordinator for tricking Donald.

Speaker 9 (31:47):
I asked Donald specifically after the.

Speaker 11 (31:48):
Game about that, the switching of safeties, and he said, yeah,
they did that.

Speaker 9 (31:51):
They did a good job of.

Speaker 11 (31:52):
Disguising their shell, meaning two safeties deep. But he said
a lot of teams in the league do that, and
that he has to be better playing and simple with
taking care of the ball and making decisions and seeing
all that. But so fights to say he got tricked,
and no NFL quarterback is going to directly throw the
ball to four guys in coveries or four interceptions unless

(32:13):
he doesn't quite understand what's going on in the coverages.

Speaker 9 (32:16):
As he's saying.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Creig Bell is with us, our Seahawks insider. I'll play
off in a little bit because that narrative about who
is the real Sam Donald was starting even before the game,
and I heard Mike McDonald say afterwards, like, hey, we
like the way that he let it rip. I mean,
he made mistakes, he cost them the game with their
four interceptions. But I don't know if I ever saw

(32:38):
his confidence waiver all the way up to the last drive,
he was still just letting it rip. I saw that
as encouraging. I don't I don't come away from that
loss like, oh, Sam Donald can't win the big game,
Sam Donald can't beat the Rams. I just I just
can't forget what happened leading up to Sunday. I still

(32:59):
like that Sam Arnold is the Seahawks quarterback Greg.

Speaker 9 (33:04):
Well.

Speaker 11 (33:04):
I hope so, because that's what he's got they've got
for the next Yeah, in six games, at least.

Speaker 10 (33:10):
I did.

Speaker 11 (33:10):
I did see a little bit of frustration that I
haven't seen in Donald yet yesterday through the binoculars after
the interceptions, while the Rams are celebrating and the pyro technics
are going off in the Rams house and all that,
I put my binoculars on the.

Speaker 9 (33:24):
Quarterback to see what his reaction was, because.

Speaker 11 (33:26):
He's been renowned around the locker room for how steady
and poise. He's been come hell or high water, good
or bad both. After the third interception and after the
fourth interception, he walked straight to the sideline. He went
straight to the bench. Then he ripped his helmet off,
snapped his chin strap off pretty violently, and then slammed
his helmet at the top of the bench where the

(33:46):
little knobs are at the top for the where.

Speaker 9 (33:47):
The helmets go. He normally doesn't do that.

Speaker 11 (33:51):
Liutenant Wolsu walked up to him after the third interception.

Speaker 9 (33:53):
So I asked Hm.

Speaker 11 (33:54):
Wolsu in the locker room after the game, would you
say to him? And he said that we still got you.
You got to see you were playing great all season.
We're built for this. Weils just said we'll be fine,
We'll come back from this. You're one of us, we're brothers.
Here even more colorfully after the game and Ernest Jones,
I don't know if you caught that. Yeah, it's not great,

(34:16):
and we can't the SEC won't let us forbade him
quote down, but he said that anyone who wants to
He said that Donald has kept us in every freaking
he didn't say freaking game this season. And anyone that
wants to say anything about Sam Donald for throwing foreig
interceptions blank you yeah, Live radio, my.

Speaker 12 (34:37):
Television from Los Angeles yesterday, I thought they appears with
the Seahawks. Guy was gonna just yake him off the
stage with the team and walk right out. But they
wanted to be and Jones purposely used such colorful language.
They wanted to be clear that they are going to
support Donald and have his back because they have to.

(34:57):
He's their quarterback and they're not changing it. But also
because he has earned cachet with them, and up until
this point he wasn't any.

Speaker 11 (35:05):
Of what he was yesterday. So the Seahawks have to
go with that rather than yesterday. They can't say, well,
this is the guy. We're thinking this guy every time
the game's good, tough. They're going to rally around him
for the next six games, and frankly, he's probably going
to play great and they're probably going to boat race
the Titans in Tennessee. Titans are one and nine on
Sunday and they'll be eight and three. So the bigger picture,

(35:25):
as Jones said, was we turned the ball over four
times and lost by two points to the first place
team in the NFC. We're going to be okay, is
what he basically said. They just have to fix the turnovers.
Darnold now is tied for the NFL with two Ittiglers
lay with fourteen interceptions, fourteen turnovers ten ten interceptions and
four fumbles. We talked about this guys that he was

(35:48):
the problem with ball security was a real haunting one,
and now he's leading the league in turnovers. That's yeah,
that has to change.

Speaker 7 (35:56):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
What was the deal with the kind of the red
zone deficiency?

Speaker 8 (36:01):
If you will.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
I mean they got down there a few times, they
controlled the clock, and I'm sure that they all felt
good about the way they moved the ball against a
tough Rams team, and yet they get down there in
the red zone and you know, ended up having to
settle for a like four field goal. So what did
they do wrong down there or was it just a
tip your cap to a good defense.

Speaker 9 (36:22):
Well, they screwed up.

Speaker 11 (36:23):
I mean, they played the end of the first half perfectly.

Speaker 9 (36:26):
They had the ball.

Speaker 11 (36:26):
Come out of the second half, they're trying to do
the two for one. They took up seven minutes and
forty seven seconds the last seven to forty seven of
the second quarter with that drive fifteen play drive eighty
nine yards all the way down there, and then they
had kicking a field goal.

Speaker 9 (36:41):
So that was not by design.

Speaker 11 (36:43):
They were not supposed to be down fourteen to nine
at the half. After using it, they used all but
thirteen seconds of the second quarter clock of possession. The
Rams only had three plays for thirteen seconds in the
second quarter when they were about ready to blow the
game open up fourteen to three. So the Seahawks righted themselves.
But when they did that, they only had two field
goals out of those two fifteen and thirteen play drives

(37:04):
into the red zone. That's where they lost the game.
Pragmatically even before the Feig interception and then Donald's four
interceptions killed him. But if you get touchdowns there, of course,
that's eight points you needed in a two point loss.
Threes instead of sevens twice, that's eight points. I thought,
I think still, and I say it during the game

(37:26):
to myself and the guys next to me in the
press box, that Kenneth Walker should be the short yard
or the goal line back to me, Zach Charboney runs
straight into the assigned hole or to the where he's
trying to get to, no matter how many guys are
standing in front of him.

Speaker 9 (37:41):
When he gets the ball.

Speaker 11 (37:42):
Walker makes that first guy, often makes that first guy miss.

Speaker 9 (37:46):
He had a really good.

Speaker 11 (37:47):
Run in the second half in the red zone by
doing exactly that. He had ninety one staring at his
face when he got the handoff, and he juked him
outside of the right and turned what should have been
a five yard loss into a six or seven yard
game down to the goal line.

Speaker 9 (37:59):
I'd keep Walker in for those plays.

Speaker 11 (38:03):
It just seems like that's the more he can turn
something nothing in something far more than Sharvening was. That
was one problem, and then the Rams just had better
coverage when they did have to go to the run,
because I thought they limited themselves with running plays with
sharpening instead of Walker.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, I'd be critical of the usage the way Walker
was used throughout the game. I think they went to
him consistently too late in the game. But that's a
topic for another time. So many other topics. I got
a million different things I want to ask you about,
but I got to use my last minute and a
half to find out what's going on with Grey's Abel
because I'm happy to give away a loss here if
I'm a Seahawk fan. If I find out today the

(38:42):
Grey's Abel's going to be all right.

Speaker 9 (38:44):
Well, they don't know that yet.

Speaker 11 (38:46):
He's getting imaging today, which means MRIs and to see
if there's structural damage in his knee.

Speaker 9 (38:51):
I will say this, as tough.

Speaker 11 (38:53):
As that guy is, bush Light South Dakota hasn't been
beaten for a sackle all year, trash talker and all
pro Hall of famers, all of that. To see him
on two knees with his face mask straight in the
turf as Kenneth Walker was running the end zone told
me that he's pretty hurt, and then he needed help
with two not one, but two assistants to shuffle into

(39:15):
the sideline. He got into the Blue ten and then
got taken straight into the locker room. It's a knee
injury of unknown severity. McDonald said on his way u
up La yesterday evening. I mean we're going to quizz
more this afternoon on that, but it didn't look great.
Christian Haynes came in. He had just been activated off
the injured reserve list on Saturday. He's a backup guard

(39:38):
that came in on Sunday. He would be the odds
on man to be the center, to be the left guard.
They are already missing Jalen Sindell, whom they put on
injured reserve on Saturday to make roster room four Haynes.
So now all of a sudden, this offensive line that
had been so good at protecting Donald is missing two
of its five starters.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah that's rough. All right, man. Well, there, like I said,
a million other things to discuss. We'll have to dive
into those on tomorrow's program. Get some sleep. Thank you
very much, We appreciate you, and we'll talk to you then.

Speaker 9 (40:12):
Okay, Happy Monday, all right, Greg Bell.

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Speaker 5 (40:44):
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All right?

Speaker 2 (40:53):
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(41:17):
Brand new Week starts at seven thirty five this morning.
Bucky's pick today, so we'll get to that here in
a moment. Of course, we do have Seahawks on the brain.
A loss yesterday to the Los Angeles Rams twenty one
to nineteen. We will resume our analysis of this game
coming up at seven forty five, we'll hear from Mike
McDonald and then of course eight o'clock Monday morning quarterback

(41:37):
gets underway. Hugh Millan will be under center. Mike Holgeran
will join the conversation at nine o'clock. So much to
break down, so we'll do it for two straight hours
starting at eight o'clock. But we have monster baseball news
today as well that we are dealing with. If you
haven't heard, I got good news everybody. That is good news.
Josh Naylor last night looks like he's gonna be the

(42:00):
first major free agent to come to terms with a team,
and it's going to be with our team. Naylor apparently
as agreed to a five year contract that we don't
know exactly the dollar figures suggest yet my guess is
it's between ninety and one hundred million dollars. That seems
to be the educated guests that's floating around out there.

(42:22):
But the bottom line is that later on today he
should come to terms, make it official, sign the document,
and remain a Mariner for the next five seasons. And
I know that makes everybody happy.

Speaker 8 (42:35):
That is good to use.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Like you said, I mean, if they hadn't done this.
It's not like the offseason wouldn't have couldn't have still
been a success, but this was most certainly the hallmark,
the hallmark move that they needed to make. We can say, okay, Geno.
I mean, I love Geno as a dude, a clubhouse guy,
and I love the fact that he can, you know,

(42:57):
hit forty fifty home runs for you. But I also
don't think it's a necessity that you bring him back.
I think you could. You could roll with Ben Williamson
to see how that turns out. You could possibly do
something else over there, But to me, it was first base.

Speaker 8 (43:11):
You didn't have anybody waiting in the wings. You don't.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
There isn't somebody that's like Josh Naylor. Josh Naylor's not
going to do Aaron Judgy and things, Well, nobody is.
I mean, he's not going to be the best.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Him steal them from Cown.

Speaker 8 (43:25):
Yeah, he's definitely not going to do that.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yeah, garbage, he's not.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
He's not this crazy, over the top stat guy. But
he's just a ballplayer. I mean, the way that he
plays the game is something that you need. I mean,
I genuinely think that the best teams out there, you
have to have at least one guy like this, if
not a full lineup full of them. So I mean,
if they can figure out a way to get this
thing done, which it sounds like it is pretty much

(43:52):
done to you, Oh that's great news.

Speaker 8 (43:54):
I told my wife last night. She was super pumped.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah. Well, I remember when the trade went down and
saw to have me on and Hugh happened to be
co hosting with him that day. And I've referenced this
a couple of times, but I think it's relevant to
bring up again today. And Hugh asked about the possibility
of a long term deal. And when you don't watch
Josh Naylor, but you know of Josh and you see
him here and there, you play him against them in

(44:17):
a series, and you see there's RBI run production. You
see the energy that he plays with, the focus that
he plays with, but you don't appreciate it until you
get to see the guy every single day. So my
reaction was, yeah, he's got kind of a bad body.
I don't know if they brought him here necessarily to
keep him long term. I think it is to use

(44:39):
him for the stretch drive, which they certainly did. But
then once you're around him every day. I mean, you
realize everything that he brings to the table, and how
you don't even care if he has a bad body
because he's one of the slowest runners in the league
and stole thirty bases this year. He did not get

(45:01):
caught stealing in a Mariner uniform. Had like twenty stolen
bases in two months for us. The footwork at first base,
he's like a ballet dancer over there at first base
to make sure the feet are in the right place.
He saved a lot of arrant throws down the stretch.
And so he doesn't need to be the greatest athlete

(45:22):
in the world. He doesn't need to have the best
body in the world, not when you play as smart
as he plays. So at the time, I didn't think
that it was important that he signed long term when
we made that trade, just as long as he's here
for twenty twenty five and can get us into the
playoffs and give us a run at the World Series.
But after you were exposed to him for just a
few games, you're like, no, we got to keep this guy.

(45:45):
This guy's got to be a long term commitment.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Yeah, there's nothing about the way in which this guy
plays that you can't like if you're a fan of baseball.
I mean, it's just the term a baseball player or
a ballplayer that is kind of the best pad on
the back that you can get. And I mean it's
even before we had him, I was like, that's what
you need. I mean, I've watched just about every single

(46:08):
pitch of this Mariners team for the last better part
of this decade, and yet it's grit is one of
the things that I think it has lacked.

Speaker 8 (46:15):
And I think that this guy brings that, I mean
in full.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah grit and flash last years dresser and yet the
grittiest guy on the team.

Speaker 5 (46:23):
It's a great combo. It's a very rare come yeah
because he's different.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, doesn't happen a lot, and he's ours for the
next five years and we couldn't be happier. Let's play
some factor fiction.

Speaker 8 (46:34):
Where's that to go?

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Speaker 2 (46:56):
Right, how'd we do this week?

Speaker 9 (46:58):
Three and two?

Speaker 2 (46:59):
All right, we'll take that. Yeah they Cincinnati, Yeah, we'll
take the We'll take a three pick on the Broncos game.

Speaker 8 (47:07):
Thanks, that tastes dick.

Speaker 5 (47:09):
Yeah, I got mocked by the afternoon.

Speaker 8 (47:12):
Actually doesn't know enough about it. Yeah, you don't know, right.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
That's right, you mock me, that's right. I'll call up the.

Speaker 8 (47:21):
Broncos straight up against Ashley's pick.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
Nice on the same day too.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
So we all got one right this week we did.
Bluckey was one and oh so uh he picks twice
this week, which means he's up today. So where are
we gonna go with today's factor fiction?

Speaker 3 (47:35):
I basically I go with who's playing a crap team?
And a crap team is the Cardinals. Now they're going
against the Jaguars. Jaguars could also be crap on any
given week, but it's a point and a half. I
don't mind laying a point and a half at the
Cardinals feet. I think us as well as Brissette's been playing.
I think the Jaguars are a team that they get
after the quarterback, which forces turnovers. It makes it ann

(48:00):
comfortable day, if they show up and play the way
that they're capable of, I think they kind of recognize
that if they want to win this thing or get
into the playoffs, it's time to go.

Speaker 8 (48:08):
And I think they'll do it against Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
So I'm taking the Jaguars minus one and a half
at the Cardinals.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
The Jaguars are like that buddy you had in high
school where he's constantly like getting into trouble and you're
having to like apologize for him, and then after a
couple of months, you're like, see, I think he's turned
a new corner. He's fine, he's really grown up, he's
learned a lot of lessons. And then you get a
call at late night and he's robbed a bank. That's

(48:35):
the Jaguars for you. I mean, you want to like them,
you want to believe that they've turned the corner, and
maybe they have this time, but you just can't trust them.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Yeah yeah, I don't necessarily trust them, but it's only
a point and a half.

Speaker 8 (48:48):
It really is me more so just not.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Believing in the Cardinals. I think that the Cardinals will
at some point in time just kind of roll over
if you if you push him to that you know,
maybe it's only a quarter, maybe it's a half a football.
At some point, if you push them, they'll just eventually
roll over and ask you to rub their bellies.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
All right, So Jacksonville at Arizona, yep, and you're laying
a point and a half.

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Speaker 2 (51:29):
Okay, Well, there you go. It's Chuck Buck and Ashley
with you here on this Monday as we react along
with our experts to yesterday's twenty one nineteen loss in
Los Angeles to the Rams. The Seahawks bad day for
Sam Darnold. Four interceptions in the game. We highlighted or
lowlighted those in our first segment with our QB one,
Hugh Millan. But I do want to highlight something here, Hugh.

(51:52):
I do want to get your take because I thought,
and maybe maybe I'm, you know, drinking the kool aid.
Maybe I'm the local that's given the local head coach
too much credit. But I thought Mike McDonald sort of
confused Matt Stafford, who's one of the toughest guys to
confuse in the National Football League. I mean, other than

(52:14):
handing him seven points in the first quarter and then
they had one touchdown drive, the entire game felt to
me like Matt Stafford was given up on an awful
lot of plays because he just had nowhere to throw.
How did you see it? Yeah, that's exactly how I
saw it.

Speaker 13 (52:29):
I think that we've talked a lot about how Mike
McDonald was brought into battle, you know, on a chess
board with Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan, and we're talking
about the Rams today and I'll just say this, Mike
McDonald is winning those matchups. And if you don't agree

(52:49):
with me, we're gonna have to meet under a freeway
behind the railroad tracks, and only one of us is
coming out alive. And I'm not saying it's gonna be me,
but you're you're you're gonna have blood either way, because
if you look at that Matthew Stafford in the last
two years, he's gone against twenty head coaches, and.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
His completion percentage.

Speaker 13 (53:10):
Against Mike McDonald's fifty three and a half percent that's
twentieth out of twentieth. His yards per tempt five point one,
twentieth out of twenty coaches. Okay, yards per game one
hundred and seventy four, that's eighteenth, third down conversions fifteen
point eight percent, eighteenth, passer rating nineteenth. So uh, and

(53:31):
then you know similar numbers for Sean McVay if you
if you throw out the JV game that in Week eighteen,
that nobody had any but anything to play for last year.
So there's been two matchups. Remember now, last year in Seattle,
the in regulation, the Rams only scored thirteen points against
the defense. It was Gino Smith game up one hundred

(53:52):
and six yard pick six, and essentially that's what you
saw yesterday with the pick down to the three yard line.
And so there was just thirteen points last year. So
Sean McVay, if we're going coaching matchups, you've got if
you just following upon or a kickoff, if you if

(54:13):
you can just do that, you have the Seahawks only
allowing one point one eight points per drive. That's eighteenth
ou twenty's that's less than half of what the forty
nine ers give up for a fifty yard field or more.
If the Seahawk defense has a half a field or

(54:34):
more to defend, they are only allowing to the Rams
one point five points per drive. Again, that's eighteen and
the only one who did better was in a weird
game an Tony Pierce with the head coach of the Raiders.
So I promise you Matthew Stafford wants no part of
Mike McDonald and Sean McVay.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Is is that rascal? Holy cow?

Speaker 13 (54:56):
So, yeah, there was a matchup. It was big time,
it was anticipated, it was discussed. We've seen two of
them now, and you know, but for the offense given
a three point field, excuse me, a three yard field
and a twenty five yard field, there's only one long touchdown,
you know.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
So I see it exactly the way you do.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Early on the broadcast was harping on the idea of
McVeigh has switched some stuff up with their personnel, their
thirteen personnel where they were instead of spreading it out
the way that he did when he first came into
the league and was getting all the accolades he was
that he had done some stuff and it did look
like it was working. Did you see some sort of
adjustment that McDonald made to where it was pretty much

(55:40):
non existent or it wasn't working the same the rest
of the way.

Speaker 13 (55:43):
Yeah, well, first of all, going into the game of
the last three games, the Rams, the NFL average is
you get twelve yards per game out of thirteen personnel.
The second place team was fifty yards per game. The
Rams were first at one hundred and sixty yards per

(56:04):
game out of thirteen personnel.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
So what did what happened? What happened yesterday?

Speaker 13 (56:11):
They had eighteen plays forty nine yards two point seven
yards per play. And in the passing game, where excuse me,
where Stafford had had eight touchdowns in the last three games.
In that Stafford goes three for six for four yards.

(56:34):
Now he did get a touchdown out of that group,
but again four yards in the passing game. So what
you saw there was a mixture of nickel and dime.
And certainly they're not going to play dime against the
thirteen personnel. Thirteen for those who don't know, that's one
running back, three tight ends, and one receiver. And so

(56:56):
you've got guys like Emon Worry who you know, he's
he's got the length. Even though he's a dB, he
can he can run and Olcatta's coming down heel. The
safeties were really firing hard and kind of almost disavowing
play action, saying, screw that you had. Ernest Jones had

(57:16):
had on two long runs, he had got out.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Of a gap on a lead.

Speaker 13 (57:21):
He was supposed to be in the B gap on
the inside edge of the B gap because Emon Warrey
was on the outside. So they gave up thirty something
yards on that run. And then on a stretch play
where he was in the same gap with Leonard Williams,
he should have been in a C gap one gap over.
He admitted it. It's clear on the tape. But then
all of a sudden they just button that up. And

(57:43):
then they had been hurt by tight end screens in
the first quarter, and now you literally see the first
play of the second quarter, Okata just he literally throws
to the ground on the of the intended tight end.
He just not throws him because that would have been illegal,
but but just jacksonim and the dude falls down there,
just totally ready for it. So everything that they had
seen in the first quarter and that had burned them,

(58:05):
they made the adjustments. They played more man and man
for a while. They were more active in the set
in from second quarter beyond in terms of the pressures
that they were bringing the simulated pressures. And what I
really like, because we discussed it last week, is that
I liked that they were coming off of Matthew Stafford's
right side as a right handed.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Quarterback, which causes him to go to his left. That's
a win.

Speaker 13 (58:28):
There's been times I go, oh, coach McDonald, that is
such a beautiful blitz.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Why are you doing it from the left side.

Speaker 13 (58:34):
Because now we just lost contain a right handed quarterback
got ran away from it and was able to get
a completion and a conversion. And so I thought that that,
you know, just in every way that I mean the
numbers I gave him to you.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
You saw the tape, the.

Speaker 13 (58:49):
Idea that you could take a team at rioting as
high as the rams and you could be that damn
close after having four interceptions. It's a testimony to the
rest of the football team. It's a testimony in the
defense and the scheming of it. And so I don't know, yah, yeah,
just unfortunate, but also a lot to like.

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Speaker 4 (59:51):
Obviously, we're disappointed, but it's very clear to me that
we have a great team and we're gonna learn to
win games like that, and we're gonna learn from you know, weeks.

Speaker 8 (01:00:00):
Like this and all that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
I mean again, we're really we're young. You know, you
got you know, a young head coach or whatever like that.
I'm learning how to how to prepare our teams from
week to week, you know. So we're all learning, we're
all learning, we're all growing. I actually think it's like
a competitive advantage for us as we start to grows,
we are willing to grow and involved.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
We're doing to coach job, Mike, give it up, Mike.
I'm with you, Mike, great job, coach your job, Coot,
keep it up.

Speaker 9 (01:00:30):
Hang in there, Buck, you're my boy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Book, Uh Chuck Buck Ashley with you, of course. So
we've got our experts on hand here on a Monday morning.
We've got Mike Homer, We've got Hugh Millen with us
as we react to a twenty one nineteen loss to
the Los Angeles Rams. But along those lines of believing
in Mike McDonald coach, uh Man, I just thought I

(01:00:51):
saw Matt Stafford look confused this season for the first
time in any game. And I think Mike McDonald deserves
a lot of credit for that. They had one yard
in the second quarter of the Rams. He had one
hundred and thirty passing yards for the games, and he
didn't make the same mistakes that Sam Darnold made in
giving the ball up, which credit to him. But I

(01:01:14):
thought I saw a defensive coach that the Seahawks had
just sort of out thinking Matt Stafford yesterday. What did
you see?

Speaker 7 (01:01:22):
That's exactly where I saw, Chuck. I mean, because Matt
Stafford's really a good player. I mean, he's played a
long time. You can't fool him too much. But the
defense give them credit and as a result, you give
your head coach who is the defensive guy credit that
he made life miserable for Matt and the Rams have
a good offensive team, and no, that's exactly what happened.

(01:01:47):
So if you want to take something away from the
game in a very positive way, that's one of the things.
Because if he can do that to Matt Stafford, their
defense can do that to most quarterbacks in the league.
And then you have to eliminate you have to eliminate
the mistakes you made.

Speaker 13 (01:02:05):
Sorry, Mike, were you more impressed by how they defended
Stafford on his own side the line of scrimmage, meaning
how they they rushed him, how they blitzed him, stunded him,
or did you find yourself more impressed with the covers
on the Seahawks side the line of scrimmage?

Speaker 9 (01:02:23):
Well?

Speaker 7 (01:02:23):
I think both things. I think that the defense you
play the Seahawks, you're going to the quarterback is going
to have pressure. So you have to be able to know,
even against a great offense line, you're going to be
able that they have shown the ability through different ways
to get to the quarterback. So then you have to
have the quarterback prepared to throw the ball correctly and

(01:02:43):
to maybe drop it off get him out of his
you know, his spot there. But you saw what you
saw yesterday. What I saw was that he's a really
good passer. But there were two or three, maybe even
four or five throws where he just missed the throw.
It was short, it was wide. You know, it wasn't

(01:03:05):
a good throw. And he's a good quarterback. So how
does that happen. It's a combination of the pass rush
and their secondary is good, and they're doing all this
without love you know who, and which I think went.
I think he's one of their best players. So give
them credit. They did a great job that way, really
good enough to win that football game.

Speaker 9 (01:03:26):
I thought.

Speaker 13 (01:03:27):
You know, Mike, I think we can all remember that
deep in route, that dagger that DeVante Adams he tried
to reach back behind him and he dropped it, and
the telecast really showed, you know, DeVante Adams was really
disappointed in himself.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Guys.

Speaker 13 (01:03:45):
I tell you, when you watch the insin copy of
that coach's tape. If you look at how Matthew Stafford,
Mike is Stanning, how he threw that. He threw that
ball thirty one yards in the air, and he was
just standing and with Leonard Williams just absolutely cave in
his chest in He just kind of flicked it without

(01:04:09):
any rotation in his body, without his shoulder coming through.
It was just like an arm like he was tossing
a I don't know, skipping rocks at a lake or something.
And yet the ball just jumped thirty yards down the
field almost perfectly accurrid it. It would have been better
to be a little bit in front. But but that
guy's arm talent is just insane.

Speaker 7 (01:04:29):
Oh no, he's he's really special. And he's been special
a long time. You know, the stat always comes up
his all time records one fifteen wins, one fifteen losses,
and he a, what's that? That's not very good? But
you know, think of the teams he's been with and
all that kind of stuff. But here's another thing about
the secondary. You mentioned their secondary, our secondary, Delante Adams.

(01:04:52):
I think he caught one ball yesterday, yep, I think,
and that was the touchdown. And he's really he's really
a special player has been for a long time. So
if that happens in a game, you know, you know
they're doing some great things in the secondary.

Speaker 8 (01:05:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Well, I mean we've given a lot of flowers to
the team that ended up losing, and understandably, so I
don't think this guy is falling after the way they played.
I would want to ask coach the idea of I mean,
Kyrien Williams. They didn't really slow him down. I mean,
he only carried the ball twelve times, but he averaged
seven point six yards of carry. Some of that skewed
because of that one big long run that he had,

(01:05:31):
but he was fairly effective. Was there things you didn't
like about the stopping of the run game? Because you know,
at the end of the of the game the press conference,
Ernest Jones kind of said, hey, you know, this ain't
all on the quarterback as much as a lot of
it is. A lion's share of it's on those four interceptions.
But he said, you know, we could have made some
more defensive plays. We could have made some and that
would be one of the only areas I could think

(01:05:53):
that maybe defensively they weren't really on.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Top of it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:57):
Yeah, you know what. I applauded his comments about that.
I read what he said in the paper today too,
you know, and that shows yes to your point, Buck,
I think they could have done a better job. I
was surprised, honestly, the Rams didn't do that more. That
guy's a good running back, and to try and do
that more maybe take some of the pressure off Stafford.

(01:06:19):
But yeah, I think that I think that's that's part
of the defense there that they're going to have to
against the team they chooses to run the ball and
run the ball well. That they're going to have to solidify.
But you know, in the second quarter, as an example,
I think Chuck you alluded to it a little bit.

(01:06:40):
They had the Rams had one yard and the Seahawks
had one hundred and twenty seven in the second old quarter,
you know, so it was a different The Rams didn't
they didn't have the number of plays, They couldn't really
get going on offense the way they typically want to.
And so yeah, there's there's very little, very little to

(01:07:02):
pocals in the Seahawks defense, I think. But if you're
gonna be sticky, that's one area that maybe they can
show up just a little bit Yeah, but.

Speaker 13 (01:07:10):
You know, well, we're talking about Kyron Williams, the Rams
leading running back. In the first quarter, he had six
attempts for seventy six yards, so's he's at twelve point
seven average. And we talked about how Ernest Jones had
been out of gaps and Kobe Bryant had mistackles on
two of those long runs. But how about this, No

(01:07:31):
he had They had no carries in the second quarter,
like Mike what you're saying about the time of possession,
and then for the third and fourth quarter he had
six carries and he had fifteen yards. So they just
you know, this is a constant theme with Mike McDonald

(01:07:53):
that you'll see him give up a long drive to
start the game and then they just button it up.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
And no more indicated than yesterday. Mike Homrin, Hugh Millan
with us here on Monday morning. Quarterback. Yeah, no doubt
about it. I do want to ask both of you
this question. Gray's Abel went down late in this game.
He's been terrific in his rookie season. I think I
would give the loss away if I found out today

(01:08:22):
that Gray's Abel was okay and ready to go the
rest of the year. But it might not be the case.
So I'll start with you, coach, and then go to you, Hugh,
Just the how big of a loss that could potentially
be for a team that finally spent a first round
pick on an offensive lineman and that guy was just
performing so well, yeah, he really was.

Speaker 7 (01:08:41):
And if I don't know if you guys have heard
anything or we know anything about the injury, but if
it keeps him out for any length of time, that's
a big hit because he is You get an offensive
lineman and their offensive line is stuck together all season
so far. You start losing some people like their center,

(01:09:03):
like like Zabel, you know, then all of a sudden
it changes you. You know, it's not the next it's
the next guy up. You want to say that, but
it changes. And so I'm hopeful, hoping for the best
for this young man. Have you guys heard anything about
it yet?

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Just what Greg told us earlier that it doesn't look good,
But they didn't, they didn't speculate afterwards. It just was
I don't know if there was a real positive feeling
afterwards that he's fine.

Speaker 7 (01:09:35):
Yeah, Well, if if they that would be a big hit.
Dell and Mike has shown the team has shown real
resilience in handling injury situations, but it's still a big
hit when you lose alignment like that.

Speaker 13 (01:09:49):
You yeah, yeah, and I think it's compounded that you
had this situation. You know, Sundel and Zabel had played
together as we all know, at North Dakota's eight and
so they had this kind of you know, telepathy with
each other and they're both high IQ guys. Now with
the center, we don't know when Sundell's coming back, but Alua,

(01:10:11):
Timmy and then the other part of it is Christian Haynes.
He's been a right guard almost exclusively as a Sea
Hawk when when he was at Yukon he was right
guard for four years. So now Mike, he's going to
left guard. His reps at left guard it's probably, you know,
for every fifty reps he has as a right guard

(01:10:34):
in his career, he's got no more than one, probably
more like one hundred to one, So that that can
be a challenge too, going over that left side.

Speaker 7 (01:10:42):
Oh, there's no question, and you know it kills me
when the well he's a right guard, left guard is
a guard. No you get used to playing on the
right side with your hand a certain way, and foot
work a certain way. You have to move over the
left side. You can do it. You know, he's a big,
strong offensive lineman. But it is different and there are
challenges and it's just not automatic.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
All right, Well, coming up on the other side, we
got one last thing for a coach. And you heard
him earlier. I think he pretty much said he was
going to rip the heart out of NFL officials. So yeah,
talk about a cliffhanger. We're going to get the actual
result next sports something like that, something similar to that.
I don't know, I might be embellishing a little bit here, coach,

(01:11:25):
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what do you got for coach?

Speaker 8 (01:11:57):
Coach? Al Im Pressed?

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
Are you with aj Barner big yesterday biggest game of
his career as a professional. I mean it comes in
a loss, but at the same time finding his way open.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
He seems to be more and more comfortable.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
And it's always a nice thing to have as an outlet,
as a nice tight end that you feel comfortable that
they're going.

Speaker 8 (01:12:13):
To catch it.

Speaker 7 (01:12:13):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know they came into this season,
I think with a group of tight ends and someone
had they felt had to emerge, and he has done that.
And I personally think that is a huge part of
your passing game. I've always said that sometimes you don't
sometimes you get a blocking tight end. But this guy,
I think can do it all. And let's take away

(01:12:36):
the touch push for a second, but I think as
a tight end that he's the real deal and he's
going to be good for.

Speaker 9 (01:12:42):
A long time.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
Here what he got for coach? I would like to
ask you, Mike.

Speaker 13 (01:12:49):
Of course we're getting new information every week, but give
us an update about how you feel about the running
backs for the Seahawks, And if you're coaching this team,
would you be used using them the way you're what
you're seeing or would you be using them differently?

Speaker 8 (01:13:07):
And If so, how so I would I'd be using
Walker more.

Speaker 7 (01:13:11):
That's that's my takeaway from it. I think he's really
good and he you know, he's We've talked about this
before on the air. I think he's really good and
he is good. But they've chosen I. Maybe it's a
health thing, maybe it's I don't know what the rationale is.
I would ask Mike that if I saw him, you know,
but uh, he Walker yesterday. You saw it on occasion

(01:13:37):
that he can bust things right away, he can change
the game for.

Speaker 8 (01:13:39):
You right away.

Speaker 7 (01:13:40):
And that's taking nothing away from Charbonnay. I think he's good,
but he's the second guy, you know, and so I
played the first guy more and you.

Speaker 13 (01:13:48):
Know, Mike, Just to put that into context, I looked
up your your two thousand ar super Bowl year with
us with the Seahawks. Uh yeah, obviously, Sewn Alexander three
hundred and seventy carries. Mo Morris the number two guy,
had seventy, so he had nineteen percent. Moors had nineteen
percent of the carriers that Sean had, whereas Charbonnet has

(01:14:10):
seventy seven percent of K nine. Now I'm you know, say, well,
there are different players. Yeah, but that's a that's a
big difference.

Speaker 7 (01:14:18):
Yeah, but I think, you know, Hugh, I think it's
you look at every team now is playing going with
two backs most teams, so that there's a difference there.
And I'm still kind of curious as to why. You know,
I think it's maybe I don't know. I don't have
an answer for that, but I play Walker more.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
I hope Sean Alexander still sends you Christmas cookies every
year for how many balls.

Speaker 7 (01:14:39):
Do you give him? He's got to take care of
his family. You know, he's got he's got twenty seven kids.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
All right, Well, what is this bone you've got to
pick this week? With NFL officials and keep in mind
Hughes in the room.

Speaker 7 (01:14:57):
Yeah, no, I know, I think they're great. I love
those guys. They never make mistakes, you know. I I
don't know, you misunderstood what I said. I think, and
explain explain this to me. They have this new thing
where they check they they put that line for first downs.
They did it yesterday, you know, from the from the

(01:15:20):
the technical stuff. But if the guy, if the if
the official places the ball wrong and they say, oh no,
we'll check it with this line. Oh, what does that
have to do with the he placed it wrong, he
missed it. I don't get that. Explain you would you
explain that to me?

Speaker 13 (01:15:40):
Please listen it all everything, all, the answer to all
your official questions comes back to if they're full time
officials and they're doing virtual reality all day, their eyes
are going to be faster like like I. Honestly, I
don't even understand. I think anybody who did disagrees with

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that statement should be institutionalized. It's so axiomatic that I
share your exasperation, but I'm I'm perhaps more exasperated because
I feel like there's at least a solution this should
be tried.

Speaker 7 (01:16:16):
Yeah, you know, Chuck, I'm sorry I brought that up,
but you know I wanted to hear what you I
didn't know what you thought about this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
All these years. Yeah, tired of beating around this year
ran about it, so yeah, I needed another fresh ran.
Yeah you stop beating around the bush. Finally tell us
what you really feel. Hey, I'm going to lose the
last minute. I don't want to end on a somber note.
This is happening way too frequently. But Hugh, I'm sure
you've got some great member memories of Kenny Easley as

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a Seahawk fan here in town, and we lost him
over the weekend, and so I didn't know if you
wanted to share a thing or two a memory about
Kenny Easily before we came.

Speaker 13 (01:16:57):
I think he played in an era, Mike, you remember,
you know, it was just different then because they didn't
protect receivers.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
So it was kind of.

Speaker 13 (01:17:06):
The way was like, hey, you're value to be a headhunter,
and if it's helmet to helmet contact and the guy
gets knocked out, so be it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
It was just a different style.

Speaker 9 (01:17:17):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (01:17:17):
And and so he was a great athlete with a
headhunter mentality, and uh, you know, just sol I mean,
put it this way. Ronnie lott Mike, you know, he
said the one guy that he modeled his game after
was Kenny Easily, And that should tell you everything, you know,
because Ronnie lott Is is generally regarded as the greatest

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safety you ever played.

Speaker 7 (01:17:40):
Yeah, I think you know, the game has changed and
he was very physical and so valuable to the Seahawks
in those days. So anytime I read something like that
from a young man younger than me, certainly that has
passed on you know, there's a certain sadness, but he'll
be members. Is one of the great ones all time.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Absolutely, Thank you gentlemen, you're both two of the great ones.
We appreciate it and we will talk to you again soon.

Speaker 7 (01:18:08):
Thanks Chuck.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
All right, Okay, Monday Morning Quarterback comes to a close
here on another Monday. Unfortunately, we had a loss to
talk about, but a lot of great analysis there from
Greg from coach and from Hugh. All right, we'll be
back tomorrow at six a m. Coming up next, it's
Mark James and Christopher Kidd. Keep it here. Sports Radio
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