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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Are you sitting there thinking baseball season is over and
sitting around and you're duff. You're missing out on some
content right now. At Sports Radio ninety three point three
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about the Mariners off season, or crystal Ball forecast or
my personal crystal Ball forecast for the Mariners off season.

(00:30):
You can check that out in written form if you
need audio form. Andrews Hurst and I have recorded this
week's latest episode of Stove where we not only go
over the crystal Ball forecast, but of course it starts
with Josh Naylor, who yesterday made it official, he with
his smiley face press conference with the Mariners. He actually

(00:52):
made it official on Monday, signing a brand new deal
five years ninety two point five million dollars to remain
the Mariners basement for the next half decade. And yesterday,
the very thoughtful, the very eloquent Josh Naylor conducted a
press conference alongside Jerry to Poto, Justin Hollander and others.
And so we talked more about nails here today on

(01:14):
Chuck and Buck in the Morning's Ashley Bucky Chuck with you.
Good to see him all. Smiley and happy up there.
I think I would. I two would be very happy
if I knew ninety two and a half million dollars
for coming to me to play the game that I love.
But nevertheless, it was nice to see just how excited

(01:35):
he was to be a Mariner yesterday. Yeah, I mean,
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I think if somebody just says, hey, hell, one hundred
mill or so sound give or take, you know, over
the next few years. Okay, yeah, I think I'd be
pretty smiley too, But I do genuinely. I mean, you
hear what he says. And he loved it here. He
was accepted here. The thoughts and I was never traded
at the big league level, but I know guys that were,

(02:00):
and even guys that are trading at the minor league level.
There's a thing in your head that goes on of well,
do they just.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Not want me?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Or they do they really want me? Obviously, in this situation,
he knew that the Mariners were. He was sought after
by other teams. He was he was a trade deadline
kind of a hot pickup that a lot of teams
were gonna want, and so you go move to another team.
But then you got to all of a sudden, like, Okay,
how is this going to go? How am I going

(02:25):
to be accepted? As you know, what's this team going
to be like? And for a guy like him that
I think prides himself on being a good teammate and
wanting to pour everything he has into his team and
in return get something back from them as far as
energy and and the will to want to win, I
think that it was it was ass I think that

(02:45):
they just matched one hundred percent on it, and it
turned out on the field that he was a huge
acquisition as well.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Well. I mean, he just he just has such a
unique personality. I don't think there's anybody like him, no
in Major League Baseball or any professional sport that I've
come across. He's so very thoughtful, and when he speaks
you find out just the lengths that he goes to
to think about baseball. But then he never offers you
anything about his personal life. I mean even to the

(03:14):
point where he ordered Mariner's pr not to even mention
that he had a baby, even though everything went well,
and really we just wanted to make sure everything went
well with it. I mean, sure we wanted you back
on the field because it was crucial, but we really
just wanted to find out that everything went well, and
he didn't even want them to reveal that didn't even

(03:36):
want them to reveal the gender of his child during
the course of that week until on his terms he
could announce it, which ended up being in the form
of a fancy blue belt to tell us that it
was a little baby boy. So he keeps things close
to the best. So when you have somebody that thoughtful,

(03:56):
that interesting, and that careful about what he does provide,
you really don't know what he's thinking. Is he going
to stay, did he like it here? Are we going
to find out that the whole time he just couldn't
wait to get back to Canada, even if it had
to be DH Or were we going to find out that
his lifelong dream was to be a Pittsburgh Pirate. I mean,

(04:20):
do you have any We didn't have any until he signed.
I didn't know what to expect from Josh Naylor, but
apparently in his head it was never really a doubt.
He was asked in the press conference yesterday, why so
quick in the process to sign a deal? Why didn't
you play it out?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
I mean, I really enjoyed every single moment I was here,
from the players to the head office of the coaching staff,
to the rest of the you know, the staff, the
kitchen crew, the clubbus managers, and it was just everything
was so awesome. I had such a blast being a
part of everything. I'm getting to know players on and
off the field and just competing with them. Obviously we

(05:00):
fell a little bit short, but you know, I can't
wait to run it back with them because they deserve this,
the city deserves it, each of each player's family deserves it.
I can't express how much fun I had on this team.
It was unbelievable, like tears of joy kind of unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
And yeah, I just I love.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Competing and competing with this organization was probably one of
my favorites I've ever had in my career. So I'm very,
very blessed. I played with some really, really great teams.
I was fortunate enough to play with my brother. That
was probably the best thing ever, you know, being able
to play with your brother.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
And then coming here. It was kind of a whirlwind
of year.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
I started in Arizona and then ended up getting traded,
and getting traded is not easy at times, and they've
got to move stuff around, you got to worry about
family and stuff. But they just accepted me right away.
They helped me in every single way they could. Teammates
embraced me right away, Fans embraced me right away. And
you know, at the end of the day, they deserve
that that world series that we're shooting for here. I

(06:00):
can't thank the fans enough for supporting me as much
as they do. I love them and I hope they
love me, and I just go out there and compete
for them every single night, and you know, God willing
and bring a world series of this to the city.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
That's what you felt watching him, for sure. You were
like you wanted to you thought that's what you were watching.
You wanted to believe that's what you were watching. But
until I mean, throwing out those weird Instagram things like hey,
cal sure was fun, best of luck, Bud, Yeah, it's
been real. Yeah, stuff like that through y'all throws y'af
a little bit. And so until he signs that dotted

(06:34):
line and announces in a press conference what he just announced,
you don't know for sure, but it was it was
great to hear.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, I mean, the dude just seems like he's real.
Like he's real and the part of him being an
ultimate competitor that all he really wants to do is win. Now,
everybody that plays any sports they want to win. They
want to win a lot, but all they want to
do is win. Like, if it does, if it means
I need to go steal third, even though I'm the
slowest guy in the league, I'm gonna go do that. Like,

(07:05):
there's just some people that just don't have all of
what it takes between the years and how and then
understanding what it is they bring to the table as
an athlete to be able to actually put everything everything
into helping your team win. And Yeah, I think he's
one of those guys that, you know, baseball is different
because you don't have to look like a certain thing

(07:27):
to be a good baseball player. You can have different
body types and yet you just have to understand that
have a good baseball like you.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
And I think that his is off the charts. He
talked about the fan embrace, and so he actually expanded
on that later on in the press conference.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
They are they're so cool and super supportive of every
in every single way. They they're like I said, they
ride or die fans. They want to see you win,
and I feel like when we win, we win together,
as like the x amount of thousand that are in
the crowd, and then also the twenty six on the
field of the which staff the head off, like we
all went together, which is so cool, and I feel

(08:04):
like it's very rare to have that around the league.
But this fan base is absolutely incredible. I have nothing
but great things to say about them, nothing but love
for them. I cherish my shoes and I think a
lot of people know that. But towards the end of
the year, I started to give like my shoes away
to like these little kids, just to like see them
smile and make them happy. And you know, I hope

(08:24):
they appreciated it, and I think they did, and I
just I want to continue to make them smile, whether
it's with my gameplay, whether it's the little gestures of
signing autographs, giving away some some apparel.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
But they are they are.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Heartbeat, really and I love playing for them, and you know,
playing with them on the field, they're they're really with
us on the field. The energy they bring it helps us,
you know, create runs, create kind of chasts on the
base path when you strike a guy out. This whole
place is rock and it is just unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
I mean, he did show up at a time where
everything was already switched on, so he didn't really experience
anything that wasn't the playoff race or a playoff game.
But that said, I'll say this, I've been around a lot,
and I've seen a lot of different fan bases, and
some of those that have been considered the best been
around Saint Louis Cardinal fans, who are known for not

(09:13):
just cheering for their own guys, but they'll give standing
ovations to other guys who've made a great catch or
come or who are excellent at what they do. I've
been around Cub fans a lot, and they're just gonna
have a good time no matter what win or lose.
That's kind of the cub fan mentality here in Seattle.
If you want to be here, man the Felix Hernandezes

(09:37):
of the world, when you choose to be here, when
you're when you react the way Josh Naylor just reacted
in that press conference, He's going to be a fan
favorite for the rest of his career, There's no question about.
Because Seattle fans love the guy that like he That
was him saying. Part of it was, I'm choosing the
Mariner fan base. Boy, he's just been he's a fan

(09:59):
favorite for the next five years. I tried to. I mean,
Col's always going to be cal and but Josh Naylor
just I mean, if you wanted to pour honey into
the ears of your fan base, say that here in
Seattle and you've won them over.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, Well he knows what he's doing, and yet I do.
I think the dude's genuine I think he genuinely means
what he says, and he says what he feels. And
you're right, he got to kind of come here right
when it was already switched on. But I think this
signing and this the group of guys that we're gonna
be able to watch for the next few years. I
think they believe this is just the beginning of a
long haul of being in that mode for a while.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
By the way, Jess Dolander did say yesterday that both
Polanco and Gino sworez they were trying to re sign.
That's the first time I think that we've heard it
said that plainly. So maybe all three of them come back,
which is something that I have not been forecasting. We
shall see, all right. We'll talk more about it later
on in the program coming up next though, brand new

(10:59):
college football player rankings are out and there's some interesting
things right around eight through ten to discuss on KJR
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Speaker 5 (11:17):
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Speaker 1 (11:22):
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(11:45):
See app for details that ever fits you on the call.
Wasn't a good night for the Krack and they lost
in Detroit to the Red Wings four to two, despite
the triumphant return, or at least we thought at the
time of Joey decord in goal didn't work out for
Joey or the Kraken. Jordan Eberley did score a goal.
He now leads the team with eight this year. They'll

(12:06):
play again tomorrow in Chicago against the Blackhawks at five o'clock.
More on that a little bit later on in the show,
but we now get to your frost brewed cors Light
choose chill headlines on a hump day, and we will
start with Major League Baseball. It was a trade last night,
Tyler Ward to Baltimore for Grayson Rodriguez. Of course, the

(12:27):
big news yesterday and major League Baseball was Josh Naylor's
press conference, as with a giant smile on his face
like the cheshire cat for goodness sake, announced that he
is so happy to be returning to Seattle. We'll talk
more about that later on in the hour as well.
College basketball, last night, you dub did win. Took him

(12:48):
two overtimes to defeat Southern, but they are now four
and one on the year. They won't play again until
November twenty seventh. College football Huskies will be at UCLA
this Saturday. The Coog's taken on James Madison this Saturday.
College football playoff rankings. The top three remained the same
that was easy. Georgia jumped into the top four. But

(13:11):
the real intrigue exists pretty much when eight, nine and
ten Oklahoma with the win over Alabama jumping to eight,
Notre Dame actually falling to nine, and that still head
of Alabama, who fell several spots from four all the
way down to ten. It's going to be interesting to
see how that shakes out. We only have two weeks
left in the regular season, and of course conference championship

(13:34):
games and in the National Football League. The brand new
week gets started tomorrow in Houston. It'll be the Buffalo
Bills taking on the Houston Texans, who will be without CJ.
Stroud once again for concussion reasons. On Sunday, the Seahawks
back in action, coming off their loss to the Rams.
They'll be in Nashville, Tennessee to take on the Titans,
and I guarantee you that's a trip. Greg Bell does

(13:55):
not mind making joining us now our Seahawks insider with
a Bill.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
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and Bud.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Nashville is one of your favorite trips of the year.

Speaker 7 (14:23):
Right, It's probably the best NFL city. New Orleans is good,
but it's Nashville's really Yeah, it's pretty good. I was
joking in the summer when two summers ago we went
for a week because they had the two joint practices
and then the pre season game. I was joking with
Mike McDonald that this past summer we went from Nashville

(14:44):
maybe the best city, to Green Bay, Wisconsin. I like
green Bay, but it's a completely different deal than Nashville.
What's the what more joint practices than that?

Speaker 1 (14:56):
What's the biggest country act that you've seen in Nashville? I'
and I know that there's acts all over the place,
and most of them are not you know, Waylon Jennings.
You know, not some big star Kenny Chesney. But have
you seen any any up and comer there that you love?

Speaker 7 (15:13):
Well, they're all good, and I mean even the guy
on the street corner with a can is really good.
But I can't nobody I can name that. I ended
up saying, oh, I saw him at the.

Speaker 8 (15:23):
Bar and Broadway. My goal, and I've yet to do,
is go.

Speaker 7 (15:27):
To Ryman Auditorium for a show. I've been in I've
been in there just to tour. And the original Grand
Old Opery it's right downtown.

Speaker 8 (15:36):
They've moved it since then. The Grand Old Opry is
moved out.

Speaker 7 (15:39):
Into a bigger place, but the original one. I want
to see a show there, and that's my goal one
of these times. Do that?

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Well, you can't do you? Are you going to have
time this weekend?

Speaker 8 (15:49):
No?

Speaker 7 (15:49):
I don't even Yeah, I mean I'm home. I mean
I'm there at like six o'clock on Saturday, so half
there's a show going on.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
That's true, man, take it.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, check that off the old bucket list, right.

Speaker 7 (16:00):
I'm not a huge country music. Bucky's probably more country
music now, Bucky.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I like country. I like pretty much everything. I like,
I really everything that yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Man, all right, well let's dive into it. Seahawks at
Titans this Sunday, And of course this is the day
where we really kind of roll back our sleeves on
the opponent. And this is a team that is one
to nine this year. They have a fod game losing streak,
but they've played probably the most murderous schedule in the

(16:31):
National Football League. Is there anything in your estimation to
worry about to fear about the Tennessee Titans this Sunday.

Speaker 7 (16:38):
Well, again, this isn't college football, even high school. Every
NFL game has players who were the best of the
best in their towns and then their schools. And cam
Ward's number one pick and so yeah, they have to play.
They have the game plan, they help, but I'm not
going to sit here and tell you, like Lou Holtz

(16:58):
that the one and nine Tennessee Titans are the best
team that the Seahawks will play this year. McDonald's the
way his approach is all process oriented. It shouldn't be
hard for these guys to worry about their own process
and worry about the week to week. And I don't

(17:18):
anticipate the overlooking factor anything else. But it's the same
old deal. If they turn the ball over, it's gonna
be a close game, and they have a quarterback who's
just coming off a four interception game. I know it's
against the Rams, one of the better teams in the league,
but if you turn the ball over against anybody. It's
a close game and that's the mitigating factor for any
contest between no matter what the records are. And that'll

(17:41):
be the key on Sunday. If they don't turn the
ball over, this should be a win.

Speaker 8 (17:45):
And that's no revelation.

Speaker 7 (17:47):
I'm saying something all it's the age old thing. Cam
Ward is the number one overall pick prize quarterback goes
number one in the draft to a crappy team. That's
why they're number one in the draft. Go back John
l Way and Peyton Manning and Philip Rivers on and
on the first years are a rough go and their

(18:08):
offense is horrible their last and total offense they're last,
and rushing their thirtieth, and passing they're thirty second in points.
My good friend Teresa Walker at the AP in Nashville
used to cover Olympics with her.

Speaker 8 (18:21):
She wrote this week after they lost.

Speaker 7 (18:23):
Sixteen thirteen to the Texans that the problem with the
Titans is their inability offensively to play anything close to
complimentary football. They're the worst and in total yards and
points they went three and out five times and a
ninth ninth consecutive home loss to Houston so their defense
has played well and they get after the quarterback, they

(18:44):
pressure a lot. It's just offensively they've been inept and
forty one sacks is what cam Ward and the Titans
have allowed. Forty one Sam downs won have been sacked
ten times. Cam Woodsman was sacked forty one times.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I mean, you know, there's sometimes you get ready for
a week and you kind of feel like, well, we
better go out there and play.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Our a game. Now, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
I don't think you ever overlook a team of professional
football players that are still fighting for their own job
and job security. And yet this is one where you
better do a few things right and obviously avoid the
catastrophic you know, four turnovers or you know, you know,
four interceptions and fumbles and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
But what is the main thing you think that.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
It's if the Seahawks just do this and you obviously,
like I said, eliminate a bunch of turnovers that they
should be able to handle. They run the ball, or
get Sam Darnold back on track, or just play the
stout defense against a bad offense. What is the one
thing that they do and you're pretty sure that they're
going to be able to win?

Speaker 1 (19:45):
This thing fairly easily.

Speaker 8 (19:48):
Get after the quarterback.

Speaker 7 (19:49):
Their front four has been doing it all year and
they haven't had the blitz much. And now they're playing
a team that, as I said, has been giving up
forty one sacks in ten games.

Speaker 8 (20:00):
Game over for a game.

Speaker 7 (20:01):
I'm pretty quick on mas there, so I think that
should be the decisive factor and they should be able
to do it without blitzing, which will allow them to
cover with seven which should be plenty to give cam
Wood problems reading coverages. To me, that would be the
simplistic answer to Okay, this should be the easy path
to victory. But again, don't play from me, eind. Don't

(20:22):
give a team that's buried and trying to get out
of the season an early lead, and that often happens
with turnovers. Donald's got to take care of the ball.
We talked about this. He's tied for the league league
in turnovers. He and Tungo Iola have fourteen each. He
has ten interceptions and four lost fumbles in ten games.
And it doesn't matter who they're playing. They got to

(20:44):
fix that and whatever the reasons are, and we talked
about the reasons against the Rams, but it was before
the Rams he was turning the ball over against the Cardinals.
He was turning the ball over against them, and they
turned the ball over against everybody by and large, and
you are not going to get away with too many
victories and certainly not going to win the division doing that.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Greig Bell is with us our Seahawks inside it joins
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Running Game. I want to talk about it again. Bucky
brought up a really good point yesterday, because I think

(21:27):
everybody that watches the Seahawks run the football or try
to run the football can tell that ken Walker is
the more explosive, more talented running back between he and
Zach Sharbonay. And certainly we've heard a lot in the
last few days about it's finally time to commit back
to ken Walker. I mean, the foot injury can't be

(21:47):
bothering him that much at this stage in the process.
Time to let it rip, let him go. But Bucky
brought up the fact that how much better the numbers
suggest Zach Sharbonay is in past protection over How huge
of a factor is that and why Sharbonet is carrying
so much of the load versus Walker.

Speaker 7 (22:09):
Well, that does explain why he's in the game in
two minute drill and on third downs and when you go,
I mean that often are a lot of plays and
that explains a large reason why he has got more
snaps overall percentage of snaps forty nine to forty five,
even though he's played one fewer game. That is why

(22:30):
they've been trusting him in those spots. I would submit
it in a normal season. Yeah, that's a big deal.
The way that the Seahawks have kept Darnold for getting sacked,
the way Kobak schemes off of play action and rollouts,
running away from pressure off the run game has kept
him away from sacks. Ten sacks and ten games, I

(22:50):
would think it's time to say, Okay, maybe we don't
need the extra protector as the running back here. And
it's not like Walker doesn't do it, and it's just
not as stout of a guy. He's more of a shifty, elusive,
eelite guy. But he can do it if he has to.
He's more of an ACCT in catching and running after
the catch in the pass game. McDonald mentioned that when

(23:13):
I asked him about Walker getting more opportunities, because it's
not just in the run game, it's in the pass game. Two,
he had the twenty three yard catch and run and
the fourth quarter drive that he ended up scoring the
one yard touchdown run later in the drive. He started
another drive earlier in the half with an eighteen yard
catch and run. But those are just two yard dump
out passes that he turned into twenty yard games. Charony

(23:34):
doesn't do that. So to me, let's hedge a little
bit on Okay, we think our offensive line and scheme
can take care of Donald getting sacked. Let's go to
the more explosive player in the backfield for options, even
as a safety valve guy who can turn a two
yard pass into an eighteen yard run. Bottom line is
it's time for Kenneth Walker, both for him and for

(23:56):
the Seahawks. Seven games left in his contract.

Speaker 8 (24:00):
Let them go.

Speaker 7 (24:01):
I get the governing it and limiting him up to
this point, I understood it. I tried to explain it
all year to people who'd ask me why they're doing it,
but that it's go time to me.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Now for him, Yeah, without a doubt.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Does the health of Gray's abel affect how they should try.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
To run the ball or is it one of those whoever?

Speaker 2 (24:21):
You know, if it's Christian Hands or whomever, You're still
going to go out there and try to maybe up
the volume for your running backs, especially ken Walker.

Speaker 7 (24:30):
Yeah, we've seen it. They're going to run no matter what,
Bucky and no matter who's in there, no matter what
the situation, no matter whether they're getting yards or not,
Kubiak is gonna run. He runs more than anybody in
the league, whether they're getting yards or not.

Speaker 8 (24:41):
On any given day.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
If they go into the half with twenty yards rushing
on ten carries, thirteen carries, they're still running. In the
second half, they're down by two scores. Late in the rams,
they were still running. He's gonna do it. He's gonna
do it. Whether Christian Haynes is in their left guard
or not. It's merging to traffic and keep up, and
they're not going to to do less of anything just
because Haynes is playing. Haines is on spot. We've talked

(25:05):
about him. He's had like three chances to win a
starting job. They kept him almost stowed on layaway all
season on injured reserve before they finally activated him because
they had to because Sindell got her last week and
now he has to play. They didn't expect him obviously
to be starting when they activate him from IR on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
But Isabel, do we have a fresh update on him
as it looking good bad?

Speaker 8 (25:30):
No?

Speaker 7 (25:30):
I mean yesterday was completely dark players and coach. Everything
was off day yesterday, so nothing new from Monday of
day to day. I'd be pretty surprised if he was
even anywhere near the practice field today, So I'm expecting
that it did not participate today.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Do you at least when you go to Nashville have
one of them hot chicken sandwiches?

Speaker 8 (25:48):
I do?

Speaker 7 (25:49):
Yeah, I do, yeah for sure, music and hot chicken.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Money on it, a little cold beer.

Speaker 7 (25:56):
Sometimes, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (26:01):
I tell you it's not a bad place to go.
I have to be watching an NFL game.

Speaker 7 (26:05):
I'll tell you that A lot of Seahawk fans go
because of it too, and the team is not very
good in Tennessee, so the home tickets are available and
there'll be a lot of Seahawk fans in that stadium
on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, well, I want to go. I've never been there.
I've never been there, and it turns out it's only
like a five hour drive from where I grew up.
I never knew that until like last year, how close
it was to where I grew up.

Speaker 8 (26:29):
I just assumed, Yeah, Tennessee is really long. It's true,
it goes.

Speaker 7 (26:33):
Tennessee goes from like the Atlantic seaboard to the Midwest.

Speaker 8 (26:35):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, yeah, But I mean it's as close to me
in Illinois where I grew up as Chicago is, And
I never realized that. I never put the two and
two together. So I am definitely when I go home
to see Mom, I'm going to make sure I make
a trip out to.

Speaker 8 (26:49):
Nashville, Bucky. Even in Nashville, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Oh yeah, played there, figure.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I've done a lot of really fun stuff in Nashville.

Speaker 7 (27:00):
When I was growing up, the Nashville Sounds, the Triple
A team was the Pirates, one of the Pirates Triple
A teams for a while, And the joke in Pittsburg,
because the Pirates were so bad, was nobody ever wanted
to get promoted from the Nashville Sounds to the Pirates.
And that's part of the reason why Tea was so bad.

Speaker 8 (27:16):
That was all.

Speaker 7 (27:17):
When I was really young, the Pirates Triple A team
was in Honolulu and there was that was for sure.
Nobody wanted to come get promoted from Honolulu to to.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Pittsburgh two for three today, Kevin, Man, you better cool down,
otherwise you better risk getting called up.

Speaker 7 (27:33):
All right, man, there was a there was a PCL team.

Speaker 8 (27:36):
Did you know that there was a PCL team in Honolulu.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (27:39):
It cost a hell of a lot of money for
teams to travel to.

Speaker 7 (27:42):
But yeah, the Pirate that was the Pirates Triple A
team in the seventies.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, well, the upside of getting demoted. All right, Uh well,
thank you, Sarah. We'll talk to you tomorrow rounds Able tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (27:55):
Okay, Happy Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
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we will play some factor fiction Ashley's pick today, so
we'll see what direction that she heads. Also, Josh Naylor,
we talked a little bit about him a little bit
earlier in the show. A little more on him as
he was all smiles yesterday announcing that he's going to
be a Mariner for the next half decade. And is

(29:01):
he going to kickstart an early stove period. I mean,
seems like we've gotten into this habit thanks to Scott
Boris of waiting until April to have an off season. Well,
maybe Josh Naylor's getting it started, because not only has
he signed to get it going, but a lot of
other big name free agents. According to reports last night,

(29:23):
it's being suggested they could be on the verge of
signing as well. It would be nice. I'd like to
have some hot stove activity before the new year, so
we'll get into that. Next, Sports Radio ninety three point
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Speaker 6 (29:36):
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Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yes, it's time to talk to Cam Cleveland here on
the program. I just want to say one o the
things and then we'll get Cam's thoughts on this. From
the previous segment, like Ole miss is getting recruiting classes
on par with Alabama for the first time like ever.
Part of that is Lane Kiffin, I think is pretty
gifted in a living room, pretty charming guy when he

(30:20):
wants to be pretty charismatic. But the other part of
it is he's getting the nil moneies. Even though he
doesn't have a program as elite as LSU or Florida,
He's still winning and out recruiting nearly everybody in the
SEC right now. So what is the problem, Lane?

Speaker 8 (30:38):
Why?

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Why are you looking for green or grass when you
actually are beating some of those blue bloods at the
recruiting game because of you and you're in il monies
and because Oxford's such a cool campus.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, unless he just feels like, boy, I can imagine
how great my recruiting could be if I could just
put a fence around Florida.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Putting a fence around Florida. You got Miami, you got
Florida State, and you got everybody in the country trying
to take players out of Florida.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
If you're a coach, especially these top guys, and they
probably think, oh, you just imagine what I can.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Do with that. Well, joining us now is Cam Cleveland.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
Good morning, Cam, Hey, good morning, gentlemen. How's it treating
you well?

Speaker 1 (31:20):
I just you can weigh in on this, because I
just spent the last second talking if Steve Sarkejian can't
be happy in Austin, Texas running the Texas Longhorns and
there are reports that he wants out, and Lane Kiffin
is once out of Oxford, where he's being treated like
a god because Ole Miss has reached its greatest heights
under his direction. I mean, we've spent five years in

(31:44):
this nil period, coaches complaining that there's no loyalty from
these players, and it's like, well, there's no loyalty with
you either. I mean, if you can't be happy at Austin, Texas,
where are you going to be happy Cam?

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Well, that's I think that's the dilemma that we're in.
And then the point, the point all of it is
is doesn't matter what brand you wear in your helmet
or what logo you have, if you have people with
revenue that are willing to spend it, you can win. Yeah,
And I think that Kurt. I think, guys, really, I
think Kurt Signetti changed college football in his two years.

(32:21):
I think he has thrown an extremely massive monkey ranch
into college football. And it's not just is it's not
like just what he was able to accomplish so quickly.
It's because these conferences are so big, and that scheduling
is is it's impossible to balance scheduling, so you get
big sways and misses with certain and how it's built,

(32:46):
like how Wisconsin had to play it one of the
hardest schedules, if not the hardest schedule in all of
the country. And somehow Indiana has had easy schedules the
last two years. I don't want to say what it's easy,
but you know what I mean, when you have an
eighteen team conference and you have a sixteen team conference.
Everybody's looking for grass is always greener. I don't think

(33:06):
it exists, guys, I don't. I think Clyde. I think
the way the classes are now, I think that talent
has been spread out. Yep, you cannot have three deep anymore.
You're lucky to have a deep and a half because
if you don't play that kid, guess guess where he goes.
He's Julian Sane from Alabama. Now he's could be the
number one quarterback in all the country at Ohio State.

(33:28):
That's how it happens, and it happens quick.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, everybody brings up the Indiana signetti and it's a
great example. But look at what Texas Tech did. Texas
Tech became the same thing powerhouse overnight because they have
three or four guys nil money that are like the
get whoever you want coach. You know, I just want
the Raiders to win oil money, right and now all
of a sudden they're an overnight powerhouse. I mean, is

(33:52):
there any advantage of being at Florida over Texas Tech?
Right now? As the head coach, I think I'd want
to be where I've got rich oil, silly rich oil.
Guys giving me money to go get players.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
Well and truthfully, everybody else that's looking around the country.
You know what, you know who's just over there laughing, going, guys,
welcome to our organ and phil they've been They're like, hey,
welcome to our blueprint. Welcome to the blueprint. And we've
been doing this longer than you guys.

Speaker 8 (34:20):
Have been awake.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
You just figuring this out. So I mean, you guys
are all acting like we like we created this, and
I'm not kidding you. They did, and they're up in
the top corner and they've had to pull people and
get guys from around the country. And so yeah, you're
exactly right. I'd like to go to a place, And
it just depends on the kind of coach and the

(34:41):
kind of person you want to be with us. And
right now, unfortunately, and I'm going to say the reality
of what it is, the SEC controls college football, ESPN
controls college football. The mouths and the eyes do it.
And that is the conference that everybody thinks is the mecca.
And but unfortunate, but also the last two college football

(35:04):
champions come from the Big Ten. So there's been a
little bit of monkey Ranch in their mind. So there's
a lot of there's a lot of drama. It's like
a giant soap opera a college football and I kind
of like it.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Like Thepa Well, I mean time is somewhat into you
Dubbed then I mean if if the the grass is
greener on the other side of the fence for a
lot of these coaches, I mean, where is the feeling
right now for you? And what do you think the
national feeling is about you? Dub Is you Dubbs grass
Well really green? Because I mean we've we've we're still

(35:35):
hearing rumors of whether Jedfish is wanting to stay or
whether he would think that there's a greener grass.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Well, I take I'm a husky for life. I'm never
going to deviate from from what I I mean, I
was born to play and that's it may sound a
little cheesy, but I grew up in the Northwest and
I always wanted to wear that. So that's my connection,
is my regional connection. You can't take that away. That's
never College football is way too regional, it's way too tribal.

(36:05):
It's it's it we're trying to create.

Speaker 8 (36:08):
Though.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
My my concern it always is is I want to
I want to make Husky fans. I want to create
a new a new group of young kids and families
that take their kids to Husky games. And that's that's
how you do it. And I want it to be
their religion. It's that sounds strange, but you want to
talk about it during the week. You want to have that.
That's my only fear of what I look regionally and

(36:31):
why it's different. And I think we can still get that.
But when we talk about what coach Fish does, I
have no idea. I mean, the way he he wants
to be right now, he's watching a Husky's head coach,
and I I, like I said last week, I'm fully
on board with supporting it. And when you look at
the talent that we do have, look at all the freshmen.

(36:52):
Nobody's playing more freshmen in the country than Jedfish. Over
two thousand snaps have come from true freshmen this year.
That's increble the amount of kids that he's had. And
it really shows the depth and how he's building it
and what he's had to build with young talent, and
how the cupboards were bare when Kaylin left and how
he had to interject his type of guy. But go

(37:15):
on the transfer portal and now you're sitting at seven wins,
you have a chance to get to eight and nine
and knockoff Oregon. I have to take a positive spin
on this what he's been able to do, because there's
been guys that have taken over programs and it's ugly
and it's and not been able to be significant. So
he's done a great job so far in this two

(37:36):
year run, and he's building young talent and getting guys
to be here, and that's that's what it takes.

Speaker 8 (37:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Cam Cleveland is Weather's former you'd tied end and current
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Thanks to Warrior injury law, battle tested, well, Washington gets
back on the winning track Saturday against Purdue. I know

(38:04):
Purdue's not a good team, but what were beyond the score,
the encouraging signs that the Huskies got back on track
toward becoming a better team growing last week against the
boiler Makers.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
Well, let's start with the good stuff. Is being able
to run the football. That was really good. Everybody wants
to talk about how well the offense played and demand played.
I thought that was great. You had to move John
Mills to right tackle, which was again, here's an eighteen
year old kid now that can be one of the
most versatile alignment in the country, jumps to the right side.

(38:42):
You're redoing a little bit of your out. You lose
your best wide receiver, you have your starting running backs
not out. But then you bring in a young freshman,
you have Adam Muhammad, and you ran the football extremely
well and you took care of the football. The thing
that I'm really rest with right now, guys, is how
good our defense is playing and how well they're playing.

(39:04):
And you know, coach Walters, he had I don't know
if he had extra motivation, but he was very familiar
with that team and their scheme and the coaches and
what they wanted to do. And I don't see a
lot of two quarterback systems that I would ever play.
And Purdue tried to play it. Although they played. I
wanted Middleton the most, but it it's just it. It

(39:27):
didn't look like it was working. But it didn't matter
because our defense was playing I mean lights out the secondary,
so I'm crazy. He encouraged with how well the defense
is playing, especially under these last two games and seeing
our offense. It is still it's still a work in progress.
I'm just going to tell you Demon was better in

(39:47):
the pocket.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
You could.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
Coach Fist said that in his press conference, also mentioning
out he was more efficient in the pocket getting rid
of the football decord Graff was really good. You got
to see him catch the football a lot. But we're
we're a strange group. Forty five points that we score
on average at home in Big Ten, seven points on

(40:09):
the road. Our offense scores in the Big Ten. That
is an extreme discrepancy between the two offenses. One is
a home cooking one is I don't know, you're eating
kale on the road. I don't know what's going on.
So whatever, we need to figure it out. And when
we go down to the Rose Bowl this week, we
have to take maybe it's a southern drop that that's

(40:29):
a better plane flight that direction. I means the east
flight is not as not as good. So we need
to find a way to take that offense and put
some put some points up on.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Grass cam the the defense has been pretty impressive. I mean,
I think coming into the season, most we're thinking the secondary,
especially with the length on the outside, was going to
be good. And yet I remember thinking the first couple
of games, even against like Colorado State, that they was like, boy,
there's times when the front seven didn't necessarily Are you

(41:01):
feeling like the front seven that the run defense has
short itself up to over the last few weeks.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
Yeah, I think not only just the run defense, but
the linebacker crew and again another freshman's day, Zadari's Rainy
Salle Who's he had a pick. I thought he was
one of his best games, not only had him as
player of the game. On the defense, a lot of
solo tackles, the linebacker crew, x Ray Alexander who, all
those guys have settled in and they just settled into

(41:29):
a good feeling. And everybody that we faced this year,
guys has run this exact same offense. Like, look, chick
Kelly changed college football, but even what he did at
Ohio State, everybody in the Big Ten copies and when
I mean everybody, every except us, like one of us
and probably now I would say maybe USC, but everybody

(41:53):
has copycat styles and Perdue was exactly the same. They
ran the same thing as Ale State, the same thing
as Wisconsin, because Wisconsin changed their offense that week to
try to adapt to more run scheme. You've seen it
from anybody that wants to run double polls or downhill

(42:13):
tight ends crossing the way Michigan runs it. We've had
to adapt and coach Walters, and that crew has gotten
so much better with their discipline. Now, yes, the talent
is different. It's not Ohio State, it's not Michigan. Okay,
you face the Illinois team who ran that same style
and you played very, very well. The elements were garbage
at Wisconsin and this week Ucla, I don't know what

(42:36):
you're gonna see. I mean, there's just it could be anything.
I mean, Jerry Neuheisel, I mean we all know what.
Who knows what. They could throw monkey wrenches in whatever
they want to run.

Speaker 8 (42:46):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
I think this defense is playing excellent.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
And I think you've gone You've given two compliments to Oregon.
That's two more than I think you're allowed to give
to the organ DUC program.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
Well, I mean, not a compliment, it's just stating facts.

Speaker 8 (43:01):
But that's dang it.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Don't say that on that very good facts, good job.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Before we get to UCLA. I you know, it seems
you brought the freshman thing up, and I do want
to ask, is John Mills so good that, I mean,
is he inevitably gonna be left tackle not just with
the Huskiers, but that's his long term NFL as well?
And then Jordan Washington. I mean, he's kind of has
an unorthodox gait about him. He looked kind of you know,

(43:28):
I don't know, there was just like too much. It
didn't look like Carl Lewis, you know, running, and yet
he was running away from fools on Saturday. How fast
is that, dude? So Mills future left tackle? How fast
is Jordan Washington?

Speaker 8 (43:43):
Well say it with me.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
With all those freshmen, I mean, and I'm so great
to hear that. Raydon Weinsbright is okay after that shot.
I know that's all scary too. But the freshman des
Roebuck and then Jordan Washington and John Mills, And yeah,
I think Johnny is just because he's physically so gifted
at his size already, he could play anywhere on the
offensive line. But I think eventually you have to make

(44:05):
what's called a business decision, right, and that's fair. I'm
not gonna I mean, when you're six six almost six
seven three d and thirty pounds and you can play. Now,
the thing is when you play out on the edge
at left tackle, you have to be as athletic and
long and strong, and he has all those abilities. So yeah,
I think he can play that spot. I'm not going

(44:26):
to tell you that he can't play guard also, but
it really depends on where he wants to settle in
and what he figures out is his best side. He
might like the right tackle side, truthfully, and we'll see.
But Jordan is again, you don't really notice how fast
somebody is until you see them run a play and
you go, all right, that guy should have the angle

(44:47):
on him. Nope, nope not and he goes by everybody. Yeah,
he's pretty fast. And I said this on the broadcast.
I'd love to see him in demand in a race,
and I've heard the word is they're very close and
demon is faster and I went, okay, now that's different.

Speaker 8 (45:04):
Uh, but it's but in.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
My mind when I see a freshman run like that,
I think long time ago, I know, back in when
we were still chewing on on bones and and and
in cars with our feet like Fred Flintstone. I think
a Napoleon Kaufman watching a freshman turn a corner. That's
that's the kind of speed he has.

Speaker 8 (45:24):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (45:25):
Now, strength wise, it's he needs as he gets stronger
in the weight room, becomes better. But yeah, it's you don't.
That's just a gift, guys, You just don't. You can't
just make that a kid just shows up on campus
and can run like that as incredible.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Obviously, you want to find a way to win this
game against UCLA this weekend. I think having Joana Coleman
and Boston Denzel Boston back would be one step in
that right direction. Uh, any word or what do you
think about their availability?

Speaker 5 (45:51):
Yeah, I haven't seen it, and so truthfully, guys, I don't.
I wouldn't expect it. I'm not not that I have Again,
I'm not the insider that it talks to the trainers
and all of that. But I'm looking at it from
a perspective of these guys are both high competitive. It's
gonna be hard to keep them off the field. But
can you win this football game? And my question is,

(46:12):
can you win this football game? At UCLA with who
you have in the receiver room and who you have
in the running back room. Right now, on the road
against UCLA without those two guys, I feel like you
can if you play the way you should, the way
you should like you do at Husky Stadium, and complement
that on the road and save those guys health wise.

(46:35):
For arguably it's going to be the biggest game of
the season at the end of the year. But you
have to win this one. You can't lay the egg
and overlook like you did at Wisconsin and Elementary Elements.
You have to win games week at and weekend in
week out. So what I'd love to see them on
the field, of course I would, because they are difference makers.

(46:56):
And if they're not, then again, we got a bunch
of freshmen that are excited to play.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
I'm happy to see more Jordan Washington. Frankly, nothing against
Jonah Coleman, but I'd like to see him play a
little bit more in this game against the Bruins. All right,
in our last minute here, isn't it nice to face
a conference rival that's actually a conference rival?

Speaker 5 (47:15):
How about that there's actually familiarity And the only thing
is there's history, and we're losing the Rose Bowl. Guys,
we're losing the Rose Bowl. Now I know why they're
going to go to so far. I get it. There's
more amenities there. But the thing that the Rose Buls
no longer be part of UCLA, Ah, it just that hurts.

(47:38):
Everything we grew up with, guys, is just gone. It's
small as much as small, a small.

Speaker 8 (47:44):
Whipper in my voice.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
It's a little disappointing. But hopefully the Rose Bull figures
it out and we get the national championship game. There
forever figure it out, college football.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Figure it out, college football. All right, man, great stuff,
as always, Thank you very much, we appreciate it. Enjoy
the weekend.

Speaker 8 (47:59):
We'll be all right, guys.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Thank you, all right, Cam Cleveland joining us right here
on Chucking Buck in the morning. Of course we'll be
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coming up next. We have not had a chance to
really discuss my crystal Ball forecast, and so as we
enter into hot Stove, and thank you Josh Naylor for
lighting and burners, because I really feel like we're already
going this offseason. I had to crank my crystal Ball

(48:46):
forecast out this week for what I think the Mariners
could do this offseason to make this a championship team.
We'll go over at next Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJRFM Jerry Depoto to talk about Josh Naylor and
the rest of the off season. So we're excited. Haven't
chatted with Jerry in a while, so he'll join us
today again live at nine o'clock. Also brand new Stove

(49:08):
podcast with Anders Hurst and myself. We went over my
crystal Ball forecast for the off season for the Mariners
on this particular episode. If you want to check that
out out check that out ninety three to three KJR
dot com. And you can also read if you want
to just go, you know, kick an old school you
can actually read because the old crystal Ball forecast is

(49:29):
there for you to read. It's rather lengthy. I mean,
I'm Sorry, it's not just thirteen words that you can
breeze through, but nonetheless it's a breakdown of what I
think could happen for the Mariners this offseason, and it's
actually important to kind of remind you of what it's
all about. I gladly accept the financial restrictions Jerry and

(49:50):
Justin admittedly operate under to create a doable laundry list
of roster moves that I believe would deliver a world
championship to Seattle. So the mindset going into doing the
Crystal Ball forecast, anybody can put together a wish list
and spend the Mariners off this Mariner his ownership's money.
I mean, Kyle Tooker, Kyle Schwarber, and Trek Schouble. You know,

(50:13):
anybody can put that together. I try to stay within
the parameters that the organization has set forth for how
much they're going to spend this offseason to try and
create a better team, a better roster to finally win
a championship. So that included Josh Naylor being re signed.
Check that included either Polonko or swore As being signed.

(50:37):
I think that will be the next thing in according
bucket to Justin Homander might be the next two things.
I operate under the belief and it is detailed in
the crystal Ball forecast that it will be Polonco or
swore As, with Polonko being the priority. But Justin Holander
said yesterday that they want to re sign all three
of them, Naylor, Polanco and Swarez this offseason. Nice be nice.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
I take that.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah, that's kind of where my mind has been at.
And I mean my heart is like, oh man, you're
asking for too much. It's we're creeping up on the
Christmas time of year, and I don't know what your
folks did, but my folks would give us like the J. C.
Pennies catalog or whatever, and we would turn to the
toy section and we got to circle what we wanted.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Oh, I've never even heard of this, the Draftmas catalog.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Well, I mean I didn't know if your parents did
that during Christmas or not, but I we we ended up.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
You know.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
I would circle a whole bunch of things, basically knowing
there's no chance I'm going to get all of that right.
And yet, uh, this is one where I don't want
to just circle two things. I circled in big boat
like a bunch of circles around Josh Navio that was
first and foremost. And yet if they end with just that,
like literally come back sayans polonko, sans Gino, then I'm like,

(51:53):
you're playing with fire here. Did you not really recognize
and feel what we did last season and how how
fun that was?

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Still it would be we already have a better off
season than we had last year. Yeah, even if it
just stops, they don't do anything else, if they just
go fishing in Barbados, we already have had a better
off season than we had all of last year.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yes, yes, a full season of Naylor versus most of
the season Solano. That's an alligator mouth towards nails.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
And yet there's part of me while I understand the
exercises trying to figure out.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
What they could and maybe would.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Do within the parameters that we we recognize they set
upon themselves and they feel that they have. And yet
to me it's hopefully the ownership is the ownership you'd
need when you need them to be willing to open
it up a little bit. I mean the fact that
they end up playing as many postseason games this year
that you'd get none of that money if you don't

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make the postseason, hopefully that like, well, look at all
this extra cash we got, let's go ahead and not
just bring back one or two, but possibly entertain the
idea of having all three.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
I think it goes the opposite way. I think since
they had what I felt was an f of an
off season and then still had created a playoff caliber team,
and then when the time came to add the real
important pieces for the most important games of the year,
that they were aggressive at the trading deadline. Gave him

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a chance to assess what they do have in house,
and then also gave a chance to assess the market.
I think they're probably emboldened by that and probably less
likely to go further and do that off season that
they've never done, which is spend a lot of money
and add a lot of free agents or go over

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the projected payroll. My guess is they're less likely Ashley
to do that than they've been before.

Speaker 9 (53:47):
I would think so too, because they had success with
the formula last year, so.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
I think they're in love with the formula last year.

Speaker 9 (53:52):
And again Jerry brought it up in his postgame or
postseason comments. He talked about the success of that formula.
He said, it worked with Luis Castile when we brought
him in, and then we were able to keep him
long term. It's you know, and that's our goal with
Naylor and Suarez, and is to have these guys come
in at the best time of the year in Seattle,
fall in love with the city, fall in love with

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the team, and then make their job easier to try
to resign them.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Yeah, it did work. It's worked two times with two
major players here in Castillo and Naylor. And so I
think Castillo is the crux of the Crystal Ball forecast
because if you do want an offseason, that includes not
just bringing back at least two of those three guys
that we mentioned, but maybe adding something because there's always

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fun adding something as well. I mean, you don't want
to just get your same favorite toy back at Christmas.
You know, mom goes in the back and just rewraps
your favorite toy that you already had for the last year.
I mean, you want something new, something that you circled
into your catalog. So if we're to believe that the
Mariners aren't going to go beyond the payroll they finished
with at least to start the season in twenty twenty six. Me,

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you have to create money somewhere. That means you probably
have to trade Luis Castillo. It could be Randy Arose Arena,
but Castillo, to me makes the most sense to move
on from now. I have predicted that he was going
to be traded now too off seasons in a row.
But if you are going to stick to that salary cap,

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self imposed, a salary cap that you've given yourself getting
rid of Luis Castillo, and I hate to put it
that way, but I don't think you're going to get
that much in return for him. That's probably the crux
of this offseason, whether you can move him and his
entire salary to create more spending area.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
If that's the way that it has to go, I
suppose that you know it's it's understandable. I mean, because
you are basically relinquishing a piece, and he's been a
good piece, and maybe right very good. He hasn't been
the ace, but that's in large part because you've got
a bunch of youngsters that are chomping at the bit
to overtake him, and and have overtaken him to some degree.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
And yet I understand how that.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Would make sense if they if they were going to
if they were going to move on from somebody where
there's money involved, then it's you move on from the
place that you have, you know a lot of and
that is starting pitching. I mean, they have a lot
of good young starting pitching. They're not paying a bunch
of money to you know. To me, that would hopefully
open up the check book a little bit to where

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they can start the process of what I want them
to do long term wise, and that start locking some
of these guys up, get locking Gilbert up. But if
it's still they're going to kick that can down the
road and just do the arbitration thing with him and
the rest of these guys that are eligible, and they
could go out and spend money on another bat possibly somewhere,
whether it's the Polanco and Suarez something like that. Then

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I like that idea because you do have guys waiting
in the wings that are capable of filling that fifth
spot in the rotation.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
I think Gilbert is a very strong candidate for one
of those extensions. I did not mention that in the
my crystal Ball forecast, and I meant to. I think
he is the candidate this offseason to possibly be given
one of those extensions, not only because he's going to
be a free agent faster than any of the other
starting pitchers, but also he seems like the type of
guy that wants to be here, doesn't want to leave Cal' side,

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loves being a Mariner, and wants to finish this thing off.
I think he's the most likely candidate to give you
a little bit of a deal, and so I think
they are going to work on that this offseason. But
if you do move Castillo, and I'm not saying that
they will, but if they do move Castillo and it
does free up some space, it'll be interesting to see
if they use that savings to go out and find

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a cheaper, not necessarily a worse, but a cheaper starting pitcher,
like I suggest Joe Ryan of Minnesota, who will cost
you some prospects. He's going to cost you a really
good package of players. Go but he only costs six
million dollars. So go get a Joe Ryan. Or do
you trade from that r that is you're starting pitching

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and if you can't resign all three of those guys,
do you go after a bat And that's where maybe
Muna Taki Morikami, the new Japanese import that is coming
over that the Mariners have been linked to a lot
might come into the conversation.

Speaker 9 (58:19):
I I I just my priority obviously, as you said,
the keeping logan Gilbert great. As far as Luis Castillo,
we've talked about getting rid of him, as you mentioned
several times, and that he is a trade possibility.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
His salary is high.

Speaker 9 (58:32):
So if there's the right thing that you could get
rid of him, and then you're doing something not just
My only concern is that they'd trade him away just
to save money and then not really replace him with anything.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
I'm operating under the belief that if you have given
yourself a self imposed salary cap, then you are trading
him strictly for the purpose of better using the money. Yeah.
So if you could move him and you wouldn't get
much in return to a team that desperately needs a
starting pitcher, now you've got money to work with, and

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maybe that is because you have prospects to move. You
can trade prospects for a Joe Ryan who only makes
six million dollars and is better and younger than Castillo. Yeah,
and now you use your what you do have. If
you don't have money, you do have prospects to move,
and so you use Castillo to get rid of him,
to get the money that you need, to use the

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prospects for a trade to get the cheaper, better, younger
pitcher to add to the starting rotation. And now suddenly
you're even better in your starting rotation and you have
a little bit of money left over to spend on offense.
Great in theory, it's great in theory, but again, they've
got to find a taker for Luis Castillo. From what
I heard in the offseason, they tried. They when they

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did knock on doors, everybody they asked wanted them to
eat money. And that was a year ago. So he's
got even less trade value one year later, with making
twenty two and a half million dollars per year. We're
gonna ask Jerry Depoto about some of these things, not
all of them that would be prying, but he'll be
joining us at nine o'clock today. Coming up next, are

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Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Down the right field line,
Naylor makes the catch, doubles it off, and that's the
ball game. Nine o'clock hour here on this Wednesday, Chuck Bow,

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former Mariner Bucky Jacobs, and Ashley Ryan with you, and
it's great to have on the program. Haven't chatted with
them in a while. The president of baseball operations for
your Seattle Mariners, Jerry Depoto, joins us here on Chuck
and Buck.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
Good morning, sir, Good morning guys. How you doing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Oh great, We are great. Thank you very much for
being with us, so we appreciate it. By the way,
I just gave your name just a quick Google and
it's still first as American baseball player. Do you like
that or do you want them to say president.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
You know, I am American.

Speaker 10 (01:01:04):
I guess that it was American or what American was
baseball player?

Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
Right, something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Yeah, it's still a Google still recognizing you as ballplayer
first over executive. So very interesting discovery here this morning.
Let me first just say, before we get into anything
about the offseason, congratulations on your twenty twenty five season.
And I know that you didn't win the Ultimate Prize,
but I gotta believe that you're pretty proud of your organization,

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your staff for what was a wonderful ride in a
very successful campaign.

Speaker 10 (01:01:40):
Yeah, you know, I mean just after the season ended,
it was it was a little tough to digest for
all of us. But now as we step away from it,
I think we have a great appreciation for what we
were able to accomplish. Won a division championship, came within
eight outs of a World Series, and we can all
be proud of that, and it's a star darting point

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for where we go in twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Yeah, it is just the starting point, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
And yet it was it was a tough pill to
swallow for all of us that were here rooting you
guys on. But to me to some degree, yesterday was
kind of almost the period or the exclamation point on
the end of the season, the signing of Naylor. So
congrats on getting that done, and obviously that was priority
number one. How how long were you guys working on this?
How close was it up until we actually got the

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news yesterday the day before.

Speaker 10 (01:02:29):
You know, we we've it's been something on our minds
since before we even acquired Josh. You know, as we
were going through the discussions with Arizona to make that deal,
we always talk about, you know, how we can govern
the long term, and this was something we were interested in,
and then you know, lo and behold he played even
better than we could have hoped. And you know, the

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rare all star hitter who thrives in our ballpark and
just loves hitting there, and and and it shows. So
you know, shortly after the series ended in Toronto, we
we got together with Josh's representatives and and started working
through the details on a contract, made an offer, got
on a plane, went down and visited with with Josh

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and his family and walked him through kind of what
we do. You know, he wasn't with us throughout, you know,
like so many of our guys, you know, Cal Julio,
George Logan, et cetera. Josh joined us in July, so
we we walked him through what we do, how we
got here. I think he had a pretty good sense
for who we were from the time we all spent together,

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and he had a natural comfort and from there it
came together. Kai didn't take two weeks or thereabout to
get from beginning to end, which I think speaks to
first how aggressive we were and how much he wanted
to be here. And it was a pretty good intersection.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Yeah, and a significant salary, a significant length of contract.
I'm not saying you had to convince John Stanton to
make this move or ownership, but if you did, what
how are you selling we have to keep Josh Naylor
to anybody that's uncertain.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
You know, he does just about everything on the field.

Speaker 10 (01:04:15):
I thought it was pretty telling, you know it just
hopping on the line, that the intro was Josh making
a defensive play down the.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Line and then doubling someone off.

Speaker 10 (01:04:24):
That's that's for a guy who's probably more known for
his bat or his wheels. You know, he does he
does everything. You know, it's a he has a great
instinct on the field. He has a great way of
interacting with his teammates, He has leadership skills, he connects
with fans. He hits. He hits, really he is about
a well balanced a hit or he takes his walk.

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He doesn't strike out much. He has power. He's been
a run producer throughout his career, and you know, it's
it's tough to really bang a hole in it. He's
a twenty year old for twenty eight year old free agent,
which is also you know, a pret rare thing.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
So it was very easy.

Speaker 10 (01:05:03):
Conversation to have with with everybody involved, especially John, because
you know, he saw what Josh provided us in all
those areas over the course of the last half.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
Of the season.

Speaker 10 (01:05:14):
And and I will say this about John and our
ownership group in general. They love the team and they
love our players, you know. And and by the end
of the season, Josh wasn't an acquisition at the deadline.
He was a Mariner, and I think that was important
for all of us to maintain.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
By the way, I have nicknamed Naylor Thicky Henderson in
case you want to run with that around the office.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
I'm gonna keep that one in my bag. I don't
want I don't want to get killed. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:05:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
He also busted out yesterday Jerry the round mound of
the Puget sound.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
I'm like, maybe don't bring that one up at spring training.
I thought that maybe what want to avoid that one.
I like the Jimmy nails. Apparently that's what he gets
a lot of times in the clubhouse. I mean, when
we're talking about a guy like this, I'm curious how
you find out about a guy's makeup.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Obviously, you can watch stuff. You have people that you know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
In other organizations, and and you can dive into stuff.
But to me, the makeup of Naylor is I've been
saying for a couple of years, this is a guy
that I wanted you guys to go out and get
just because I think there's a grit that he brings
to the table.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
There's there's part of that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Comes with a baseball IQ, which he obviously gets not
being very fleet a foot, but sniper in thirty bags
last year. That's something that happens between the years, even
more than with the legs. And so how is your guys'
philosophy in trying to dive into the person beyond just
the stats baseball player the stuff that anybody can google.

Speaker 10 (01:06:45):
You know, a lot of what you just said. It's
recon it's picking up the phone. It's calling people who've
played with them that you may have connection to. It's
asking our players what they think. It's it's visiting with
you know, in this case, probably not super helpful, visiting
with the team he's currently playing for, because I don't
know how you know reasonable you're going to get you

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a description. But the guy's in Arizona. We're of a
particularly close relationship with Mike Hasn and Amil Saude and
and you know, Tory Lavulo and his crew are are
good with our people, and they had nothing but great
things to say about Josh and more importantly, his time
in Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
Uh, he was there a long time. You know.

Speaker 10 (01:07:27):
We also have good relationships with the people there, and
and we're able to kind of get a better look
under the hood at what Josh was about. But even
just on the surface, the things that attracted us to
him in the first place, where is it intensity? The
IQ which if you watch him play, you know, for
any more than a day or two, it just jumps

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out at you. And we needed a player who brought
a little edge, and we got so much more than
the edge.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:07:56):
What he does in terms of of lifting teammates, know,
baseball education in the clubhouse. It's he eats it and
sleeps it and drinks it and he can talk it.
And his teammates respect him because of what he puts
into it and how much he puts out.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:08:12):
It's the effort level is extreme and he never lets up.
I think the way he would like to be, you know,
classified as a player, I think is just as a winner.
And and I could not agree more with that description
of Josh he's he just brings it every day.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Got great fancy shoes too. Jerry Depoto, American baseball player,
is with us here on Chuck and Buck in the
Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R FM. Well,
I know a lot of people think that, I mean,
you've announced it that our priorities is try to keep
some of the guys that are our own that are
entering into free agency. I've been operating under the belief

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that that's probably Naylor and then Polonco or Suarez, but
justin kind of said yesterday that maybe it's Polanco and Swarez.
I mean, what kind of chance are you going to
give us that all three of those guys will be
back in Mariner uniforms next year?

Speaker 10 (01:09:08):
Well, a lot has to go right, you know, frankly
for that to happen, and you know, including markets and
trends and forces working in our favor.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
But we would love him all to be back.

Speaker 10 (01:09:19):
And you know, at various stages in our season, each
one of those guys you could prop up as as
a hero. And you know, and I do think from
beginning to end, Jorge Polanco's season for US was really
super underrated. And you know, obviously the big hits in
the postseason and and you know, the things that he
did in October were notable. But you know, from from

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really opening day on one of the most consistent offensive
players we had all year long. High contact, didn't punch,
it was he provided power. It was about as well
balanced left and right as you could be. And he
proved very good at handling the dhrol, which is something
a lot of guys naturally gravitate toward. And you know,

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while Gino didn't hit for a high average after we
acquired him at the deadline, we know what you know, brains,
and he did deliver the pop and more importantly, he
delivers leadership and he brings people together.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:10:15):
But again a lot of things would have to go
right for us to keep the whole band together. But
we're going to do our best to make sure well,
just to make sure we continue to grow and get
better as a team, regardless of wood blocks in the door.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
Next.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Yeah, well, I mean I think that's that's great to hear.
I think all Mariner fans are wanting you to grow
from where you're at last year, right, not just try
to stand patent. So that kind of brings me to
the idea of like a blueprint as much as you
can share with what it is that you're hoping you're
able to do. I mean, there is no salary cap
in baseball, but we all know that there's budgets that

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you were kind of told that you got to have
to work with. And so I am curious, you know,
after riding excuse me, the high of what we all
got to ride along with what you guys did there.
I mean, is the is the idea to continue to
move forward in the way of spending or is it
trying to stay the same or is it trying to

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be creative and move some things around.

Speaker 10 (01:11:11):
You know, we've been we've been moving forward for years.
I think we may not move forward at a pace
that that pleases every fan or listener, but we've grown our.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Payroll and that's impossible season it really is.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
They don't spend enough money.

Speaker 10 (01:11:31):
I'm guessing we're gonna come just a little shy of
the Dodgers, but you know, we'll continue to grow our payroll.
It's it's what we do, and you know we've and
part of that is when you have you know, good
young players who are growing, they're in the arbitration system,
you know, obviously bringing in a free agent of Josh's status,
and and we plan on continuing to play in the

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free agent market and fill some some voids. But you know,
from a team building perspective, you know, I said at
the end of the season, are our starting point for
twenty twenty six is where we finished twenty five And
we finished twenty five with you know, the highest or
second highest payroll and the history of the franchise, depending
on where you put, you know, the last dollar, it's

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it's very close.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
But you know, we are.

Speaker 10 (01:12:16):
Growing, we are aggressive, we are looking to get better.
We'd like to add at least another bat to that lineup,
and we really want to beef up the bullpen.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
And add to the middle and even the leverage.

Speaker 10 (01:12:26):
Arm if the possibility exists, and whether that's free agency, trade, whatever,
we're we're just looking to add the best players we can.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Jerry Depoto is with us to isolate a part of
that question and answer. I mean, you said at the
end of the year that we're probably going to start
next year with a payroll similar to the one that
we ended with, and of course that's not written in stone.
But when you spend eighteen and a half million on
one player, and you're also talking about trying to keep
Polanco and or Swore as as well. Boy, that money,

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that that really gets burned up rather quickly. So I
wanted to isolate the part of Bucky's question about whether
or not you feel like you might have to move
some money around, move a salary out in order to
create some of that leverage to add to the team.

Speaker 10 (01:13:17):
I mean, I guess it depends what we're adding. You know,
we're always open to any type of thought, but you know,
the idea of bringing the team back in some form
to what the twenty five team look like moving players
off kind of defeats that purpose. So we're very comfortable
with the level of talent that exists on our team.
I think as we sit here in the middle of November,

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I do believe we're one of the most complete or
most talented teams in the American League. So pulling away
from that team would kind of defeat the purpose, which
is why I answered the question as I did, which
you know, market forces will have to get a little
lucky for all of that to work for us. But
you know, we were very comfortable with the depth that
we've created in our starfaring rotation. We like the way

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you know, our lineup looks. We do want to continue
to provide opportunity for young players. That's a foundational part
of what we do. And we have good young players,
so finding that balance. Striking that balance is important, you know,
which is why a guy like Orge is such a pivotal.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
Guy in our lineup. Last year.

Speaker 10 (01:14:21):
He could do a little third, he could do some second,
and he could d eight. He's even now played some
first base and the switch hitter. That versatility allows us
to continue to develop a team, and you know, going
out and finding players that can do that is paramount
for us, and we'll continue to look whether it's wor
he or somebody else.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
One of the things that I admire about how you
guys are trying to do it with if there is
some sort of a budget while you're increase in the payroll,
and yet there still is a is a threshold probably
that like you said, you're going to be shy of
the Dodgers, probably the metso.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
And yet one of the things I've had what.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
You guys did with Julio, what you've done with Cal,
getting these guys to basically you buy them out of
some of their arbitration years and you get some homegrown
talent to stick around. Are you guys working in that
same direction with the likes of Logan Gilbert and George Kirby, Possibly,
because you know they're all both going to be getting
pay raises, even if it's just through arbitration. And yet

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the sooner you guys can get them to kind of
lock up with their boy Cal and Julio and now Naylor,
the probably the less expensive they would be versus them
waiting until they become free agents as well.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
And we're always open to it.

Speaker 10 (01:15:35):
The beauty of having really good players is that they
are going to get paid and if everything works out,
the team will win. And you know, we've had those
discussions with a variety of our players through the years.
You know, as you mentioned Cal, Julio, JP Crawford, Andre's Munoz,
you know now JOSSH.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
Naylor.

Speaker 10 (01:15:54):
We're not shy about extending the players in our group.
Luis Castillo got a big one a couple of years ago,
and it's part of our roster building plan is to
bring players in, let them experience our market, play in
our environment, and once we get feel for how they
fit into our baseball group, and you know the twenty

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five teammates, the staff. When you get a player like
josh or Cal or Julio who are fully embraced by
the fan base as well, that's when you know you
hit a homer and you know you do what you
can to get those players extended out for as long
as you can, and we'll continue to make that a
part of how we build our team.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
President of Baseball Operations for the Seattle Mariners, Jerry Depoto,
our guests this morning. We appreciate the time. Certainly. I
do want to ask you because I read the name's
Alex Hoppy. I think that's how it's pronounced. And Robinson Ortiz.
Those are a couple of other moves that you've made
here in the last week. And I know baseball people
that are paying attention are like, uh oh, Mariners see

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something in some relief pitchers. Again, they're probably going to
turn out to be pretty good. So what can you
tell us about hop Bay and Ortiz and how quickly
they might be Mariners and not just minor leaguers.

Speaker 10 (01:17:08):
Well, I mean both have pissed at the upper levels
of the minor leagues. In Robinson's case, he had some
injury issues early on in his baseball life. Last year
was a healthy season for him. And he's got a
fastball that gets up to ninety seven ninety eight as
a lefty, has a three pitch mix, a slider and
a cutter that both kind of look like the same

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pitch at times, but power stuff will sit around ninety
four and ninety five. And we feel like as a
twenty five year old with three options, it just gives
us roster depth in an area where we don't have
a ton, which is left hand bullpen. And you know,
Alex Hoppey comes from Boston. Average velocity of his fastball
is near one hundred miles an hour, you know, sit
ninety eight and a half. He will touch triple digits.

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He's got a mid nineties cutter. He's got really I mean,
it's nasty stuff. We feel like we can help him
in terms of like honing in his command, which has
been his bugaboo to this point in his career. But
a really stuffy twenty six year old righty who we
feel like has an opportunity to pitch in the big
league next year. And these are like classic you know,

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recent vintage Mariner acquisitions in November, and then some of
them turn out to be Gave Spires and Matte Brass's,
you know, and you know, we're hopeful about the talent
that we're getting.

Speaker 4 (01:18:27):
With these two guys.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Jerry, I mean to be sitting where you're at. You
had a team that very easily, very well could have
hoisted a World Series trophy this year, and yet the
nice thing is you also still have one of the
best farm systems. Is there anyone in particular or maybe
a couple guys that Mariner fans should be super excited
about that you're expecting to be contributors in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
As far as prospects go.

Speaker 10 (01:18:50):
You know, I think widely regarded as our top prospect
is Colt Emerson and finished last year in Tacoma at
the very end of the season, had a fabulous years.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
He's just twenty years.

Speaker 10 (01:19:00):
Old and will play virtually all of next year at twenty.
He's a special player we feel like has a chance
to be foundational part of what we do, and I
would expect that whether it's on opening Day or at
some point next season.

Speaker 4 (01:19:14):
He is a part of our mix which is why.

Speaker 10 (01:19:17):
You know you provide opportunity for those young players or
avenues for them to get those opportunities, and you know
Colt will be one of those players. There are other
players I'm excited about who may not show up in
the big leagues but are going to be pretty close.
The guy like Kate Anderson, who was the third pick
in last year's draft. We've not seen him pitch a

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professional inning yet, so we're all eagerly anticipating seeing him
in the spring and watching his Mariner debut of sorts.
I would love to see what kind of progress we
get from Jerangelo Sandre, who ended last year in Double A. Obviously,
the switch pitch makes him famous, but what comes out
of his hand, especially as a right hand or, is

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pretty special, and I think it's reasonable to believe that
he could show up as a contributor in the big
league next year. Obviously, some guys that touched the show
for us last year, like Cole Young and Ben Williamson
and Logan Evans, we feel like they will continue to
play a role in what we do, and we do
have a fun system to watch. It's whether it's it's

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the kids that are going to start in a Ball
and Everett were the kids that are going to start
in Tacoma.

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
I think no matter what level you go.

Speaker 10 (01:20:28):
With our system, you're going to find a player who
has a chance to play in All Star Games, which
is exciting.

Speaker 4 (01:20:34):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
In our last thirty seconds, I just want to say,
you know, congratulations. I mean, I know that this is
a fan base here in Seattle and the media that
just wants to get to the World Series and maybe
didn't appreciate always exactly what it was that you were
building here. And then it's nice to see you get
some accolades, get some flowers here this season, and to

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ride some positive moments into the off season. I think
it's well overdue, and I think that you've certainly, along
with Justin and your entire staff, have earned a little
bit of praise heading into the offseason. So congratulations on
a great year and let's just keep moving it forward.

Speaker 10 (01:21:14):
I appreciate that, guys. Sometimes I guess sometimes development or
evolution isn't linear, and you know, you fall down, you
get back up, you pick yourself up, and we're in
a good place organizationally, and I'm really looking forward.

Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
To where we go from here.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:21:28):
Jerry.

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
Appreciate you guys all right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Jerry Depoto, president of baseball operations for the Seattle Mariners,
joining us here this morning for a lengthy conversation about
the MS off season. Coming up next, Al Kaneski will
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