November 12, 2025 • 39 mins
Dan Wilson did not win AL Manager of the Year last night, he finished 3rd behind Schneider and Vogt, who won for the 2nd straight year. Did the voters get it right? Are today’s successful managers and coaches coddling players? Are players too soft? Or have the Managers and Coaches just figured out how to communicate in a more gentle way and still get the message across? :30- MacDonald vs McVay: The Defensive guru vs the Offensive whiz, a battle of the Mc’s. Both QB’s are getting MVP chatter, both Offenses are top 5 and both defenses are top 5 as well. NFL power rankings have both teams 1 & 2 this week and while it’s not a make or break game, a win would be a huge boost for either team. :45- The CFP rankings saw some shakeups in week 2; what stood out and some big matchups this weekend could have a BIG effect on next week’s rankings.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Some time. Good morning, class leads and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Inducing six one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former high
school basketball stand What the hell.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Does that mean?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Don't jumped any conclusions. No, not a god, You've got
to lower lower your expectations.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to Pluto.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm getting some Bucky Jacobson vibes and former I'll just
openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped X athlete.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Now there's been a noticeable spike here your blood pressure.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Five seven guard and a former college water polo national champion.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
There's a lot of useless crap up here.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
Ashley Ryan, brought to you by to Lada Casino Resort
and quilsee the Creek Draftking sports book where the action
never stopped there you go.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Well, good Wednesday morning to you.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Welcome into the radio show that people call Chuck and
Buck in the Morning. Sports Radio ninety three point three
KJR FM. The good people, the good people of Seattle
and beyond. They call it Chuck and Buck in the Morning,
so you can't stop them from doing it. Really, my
name is Chuck Powell. Bucky Jacobson is here, Ashley Ryan
as well. Happy hump Day to you all. That's right,
(01:33):
we've made it to Wednesday here of this week, and
hump Day is the day worth celebrating, worth getting ready
for the biggest Seahawks game of the year, which is
coming up this Sunday against the Los Angeles Rams, and
we certainly will spend a lot of time on it.
Maybe not to start the show, but we will spend
a devote a lot of time to it. Here on
(01:55):
today's program. Let's check the health and wealth of the
members of the program. How's your knee better? Better?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Still gimping around a little bit. I guess it's part
of the process. Talk to the folks over there at
Pinnacle yesterday and there, yep, yeah, we shot you with
a little more ozone. I think it's different than the
thing that keeps some of the sun's bad rays out.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I don't think it is nailed yesterday.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I think that's correct.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
They grabbed some of that and shot at my knee.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Well because already so they're like, well, we don't need
this anymore because we're going to make a fake ozone.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
So let's figure out a use for the one we've got,
and you.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Should probably not use hairspray anymore.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
You probably please not aerosol.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It'll deteriorate the shot your knee.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well, good thing is it's been a minute since I've
used hairspray, so yeah, it's been a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Yeah, Well you spend around cows with gas though, because
that can also.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Be oh oh yeah cows. Yeah. Uh well, at least
it's the ozone layer that was put into your knee,
not the marine layer. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to
do anything very heavy.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Everything would be would fall short.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Everything would bog down.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, in your life, but then I'd be on par
with a lot of other people. I'd have something to
complain about when it comes to marine.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
There, you reached moments where you thought you were going
to hit peak excitement, but then right before it nothing. Oh.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I don't know what they're down. I don't know what
they're doing with medicine these days. But man, if they
shot the atmosphere into your knee, no under, it hurts.
Yeah right, Yeah, there's a lot to shoot in there.
It feels like they may be shot too much in there.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
It's a lot for you to take on.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, but you know as yes, it's so what doesn't
kill you makes you stronger, So I'm hoping it makes
me stronger.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
You're not any normal person.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I'm not exactly, not your run of the mill.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
That's exactly right. So keep it coming, keep on your
keep it coming, ozone.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Keep on keeping on.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Can't bring our guy down no matter how hard you
uh well, astulely. Both your knees are all right, feeling.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, they're both there. They're both ozone free. And I
did not one.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
No. I double checked too, because when I hopped out
of bed this morning and I was like, wait a minute, why.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Did I put my pants on one leg at a time? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I was like, are they both there?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Few they are, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah. I don't know about you, but I am one
of those that refuses to put my pants on one
leg at a time, So I jump into them just
so people can't say.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
That I do. Yeah, yeah, that you're not like everyone exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I'm better than that.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I right now barely put my pants on. That's another story.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
And are they shorts?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yes? Now, I kind of want to know what that story.
Do you have somebody else that puts your pants on
for you.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
No, it's just right now. Because my knee doesn't bend, gotch,
it's very hard to get them on. Okay, so I
have to like lassle it around my left. You have
a Belgian mallin wall. They're very smart. You're probably a
good teacher how to put your pants on?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Pants on?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Great?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I try to teach my dog.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
You'd just go stand on the pants and roll around
and make me scratch his belly.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
All right, Well, good morning to you. Welcome into our silliness.
It is Chuck Buck and Ashley with you here on
this Wednesday. And yes, I know a lot of people
have Seahawks on the brain, and we're gonna talk a
lot of Seahawks football today, get ready for the biggest
game of the year on a hump day to date anyway,
But I think we haven't talked. We haven't led with
baseball in a while since you know what happened. And
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I think maybe this is worth leading with because there's
a topic here that I've been trying to get into
with Bucky and we just haven't had time to do it.
We've rushed through it a couple of times. But I
do believe that there's a topic here that yesterday's news
will lead us into. But let us start with yesterday's news.
Dan Wilson did not win American League Manager of the
Year last night. He ended up finishing third in the voting.
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Steven Vote won the vote and for the second year
in a row, and then second place went to John
Schneider and Dan finished third. And I think that I
think I think Dan, deep in his heart, kind of likes.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
That that's that's good.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
My first year as a manager, and I finished third
manager of the year voting, So I think that that's
an accomplishment in and of itself. I didn't expect him
to win the award. I don't think any of us
expected him to win the award, But not bad for
your first time out third place finish. At least those
nationally that write about baseball for a living are recognizing
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that you did some good things this year.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think it was about where
it probably should be. Where I think there was what
five folks that ended up getting votes. Obviously there was
only the three that were in the finals, and I
think that Dan probably deserved to be third. Where I
mean I was thinking more so Schneider. But I have
a hard time not putting personal what I've seen, and
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I've seen more. I saw more of the Blue Jays.
It was in the postseason. I know that's after the fact,
but the fact that they had more games. I was
thinking that's where the voters would land, they had won
more regular season games. But then you try to put
all the other stuff into the mix that they're probably
thinking about or should be thinking about, which what'd you
do and what you go through and all of the
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stuff that vote went through from you know, losing your
closer and they traded bieber away when he was getting
ready to be healthy to the Toronto Blue Jays, and
then the comeback that they had at the end of
the year to come up and sniper their division I
think was impressive and so I mean, very deserving. I
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wouldn't have been mad if anybody had wonted, right, It's
not like no, our guy was clear cut the guy
that should have won, period, Like I think about another award,
but I do think that it was kudos to him. Yeah,
first year as a full time manager, and you did
some good things and it was recognized.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
It really is, and I think it needs to be
pointed out, it really is an exercise, and you brought
this up yesterday. I think it's a great point is
that I probably am holding. I mean, if anybody thought, oh,
Seattle's going to back Seattle, right. I didn't give Dan
Wilson very high grades this year, not for his ex
as and O's, but I think I went out of
my way to say how valuable he is in many
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other areas as a manager to this baseball team, which
we're going to get into here in a moment. But
so I didn't have him winning. I wouldn't even have
named him Top three, frankly, but I did watch so
much more on almost every decision that Dan Wilson made,
and so maybe where Bucky saw the overexposure, saw all
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the good things in Dan and never got to see
them in the other candidates, I might have saw more
failures that Dan from Dan's perspective, and maybe I held
that against him. So really it does come down to this.
It's a it's it's baseball riders from across your league
who see you for a handful of games, and what
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the award Manager of the Year comes down to is
who they believe as a collective got the most out
of their team based off of the talent that they
were given by management and ownership, and then hurdles they
overcame during the course of the year to achieve whatever
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it is that they achieved. And so I think a
lot of people saw the Seattle Mariners as being a
good team going into the year with a chance at
winning the division. The fact that they won the division,
I think nationally, Dan Wilson got some credit for that,
and maybe a little bit of credit that he didn't
quite deserve, because I don't think that they overachieved as
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a baseball team under his guidance this year, where I
think maybe Toronto did. I think maybe Alex Cora and
Steven Vote overcame a lot of hurdles that maybe Dan
didn't have to overcome. And I think that that's why
I would probably personally lean toward those guys, even though
I didn't watch the manage nearly as much as what
I did Dan Wilson this year. And so I think
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that's what the national collective is telling you is that
here's Steven Vote, who operates with a much smaller payroll
than the other winners in Major League Baseball. He overcame
obstacles like a gambling scandal and everything else. This year,
he dragged his team out of the depths of despair
and rallied to chase down the Detroit Tigers and win
the division. Again. He gets my vote. Now, there was
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also part of that is his team couldn't score a
run for a month and a half. There's a reason
why they dug a hole for themselves. And it wasn't
just because Emmanuel Classe likes to throw pitches, and I
mean throw pitches in another sense. And also the Tigers
did all of them a lot of favors by crumbling
and falling apart themselves, which Cleveland had nothing to do with.
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But I don't have a problem with him winning the award.
I do recognize the hurdles that he overcame, and I
think that he is an excellent young manager and he's
only forty one and he's already won Ashley back to
back Manager of the Year wars.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yeah, he definitely is deserving.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
I did hear an argument though today that was like, well,
could a manager or should somebody win Manager of the
Year twice in a row, because when you think about that,
you did enough to win it last year. That means
you've got a pretty good situation going now right where
your season's leaving on because you just went Manager of
the Year. So you guys are in a good situation.
Then you come back, well, now if you do it
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all over again, were you really worthy of Manager.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Of the Year?
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Which I could understand that argument just looking at it,
but looking at his situation and as you mentioned, the
things he actually had to go through, it wasn't like
he just started off with the same team he had
last year and went through the season and had success.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I actually like that about what the vote went. That
voters didn't use that against Steven vote. I think that
happens far too frequently. I don't think I mean, Phil
Jackson hardly ever got recognized as in the postseason awards
because you've got Michael Jordan. That's not now. Phil Jackson
was masterful and should have won five, six, seven Coach
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of the Year awards. Joe Tory should have won Manager
of the Year awards. I mean he had to manage
a Rod and Jeter and all of these huge personalities
in one year after year. I think I think that
sometimes these voters put hurdles in front of them, like like, well,
they have too much going for them, or he won
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it last year, we got to go with somebody else
this year. I wish they wouldn't do that. So that
was actually the one thing that I liked about the
vote last night. Both American League and National League Managers
of the Year repeated last night, and I like that
the voters didn't let get in the way. I voted
for him last year, I can't possibly vote for him
this year. No, do you believe he was the best manager?
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Do you believe he got the most out of his team?
And if you think it's the same damn guy, then
vote for the same damn guy.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, I mean I can see that. To me, it'd
be like, I mean, the full extent of that where
Ashley's talking about, would be like, what would you feel
like if they gave Dave Roberts the Manager of the
Year considering how stacked that team is, right, It'd be like,
come on right? Yeah, So that's the full extent or
the extreme on that side. On the other side, it's
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I think part of what goes into it when you're
talking about what do they have and what did he do?
What did he make with what he had? I think
part of that goes into Okay, well, how much money
do they spend?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Right?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Where are they at when it comes to that. That's
where if I do think of the Mariners, where I
don't think they overachieved necessarily. I don't necessarily think they
underachieved simply because if you look at what achieved, yeah,
they achieved. They they did what I thought that they
were going to do. I mean, maybe they were a
few games short of whatever my prediction was, but I'm
pretty optimistic when it comes to picking. I think ninety
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four wins or something that I said for them, but
they're right there and yet to me, it's like, when
you look at this roster, I don't think of it
as as low as what the actual pay is, simply
because you have a bunch of guys pitching staff in particular,
that are pitching like twenty million dollars a year, thirty
forty million dollars a year pitchers, and yet they're not
making that money yet, you know. So to me, that's
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us knowing the roster. Whereas you know when it comes
to Cleveland, and Cleveland's down there, I mean, they're way
towards the bottom of what they spend on their roster
and yet to go out there and find a way
after you dug yourself a hole, you dug yourself the hole.
I mean, you didn't play well, and Detroit played exceptionally well,
but when they crumbled down the stretch, you did everything
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you needed to do at that point in time. And
that's getting hot at the right time. Like we talked
about a little bit yesterday in regards to the NFL,
I think there's something that the manager has about that
has to do with that. Like, hey, guys, look how
far behind we are right now, fifteen games or whatever
it was. We're fifteen games back of these guys. It
doesn't matter. Let's go win today and make it fourteen.
Let's go win today and make it thirteen and just
take care of your own business. And I think that
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he's I mean, to be two years into your managing
career and you've been the manager year twice, there's something
to that. I mean, he's good at what he does.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. And I just to clarify that, Dave Roberts,
I don't think they overachieved. I think they underachieved during
the regular season. A roster that good and you didn't
win one hundred and ten games.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I mean they didn't even get a bye in the
first round for goodness sake. So no Dave Roberts. But
I'm my point about that is, I don't think you
get eliminated just because people think you have the best talent.
I mean, the year Phil Jackson and the Bulls went
what seventy three and nine or whatever, Yeah, maybe he
did some good things that and shouldn't be eliminated from
the conversation. Well, we've done it to ourselves again. We've
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spent fifteen minutes on this topic. It ran out of
the times that I wanted to discuss this other topic
that I've been dying to talk about. And so I'll
just say briefly that I think what you are seeing
because we've had a really curious manager hiring cycle in
Major League Baseball. Some guys that weren't on the radar period.
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A college coach with zero professional coaching experience has been
hired a relief pitcher. I mean, there's not a manager
in Major League Baseball right now who was a major
league pitcher until Craig Stammon got hired by the Padres,
and he wasn't even a start. Can you imagine as
weird as as relief pitchers are handing over the reins
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to your team to a relief pitcher and recently retired
like played last year. Can you imagine thinking that a
relief pitcher, one year removed from the is ready to
be a manager of a Major League Baseball team.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
He just has must be, must have been that leader
in the clubhouse, which usually it's not a relief pitcher.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Usually a relief pitcher.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I mean, it's it's you know, you can come in
all different walks and shapes and sizes. It typically is
a guy like catcher. There's a reason why. Yeah, probably
five or six of the guys that were up for
the Manager of the Year were former catchers, as they
just they tend to gravitate towards that the general I
run this thing. Relief pitchers typically don't. They might be
the gesture over in the corner.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
What I thought of as the guys that play grab
ass in the bullpen the whole game and don't even
pay attention until it's their time to stretch, right, you know.
And so for I mean, it's it's been a bizarre
Major League Baseball managerial cycle and The only thing that
I can take from it that tries to explain it
is I think. I mean, we see trends all the time,
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hiring trends, particularly owners, general managers. They see something that's
working and they want to copy that. And I think
what you are seeing right now in Major League Baseball,
and maybe we're seeing it and in the NFL, maybe
we're seeing it at the college level. Maybe it's the
reason Brian Dayball and his old school I yell at
my quarterback tactics just expired this week in the middle
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of the season. And I think it's not that today's
young players. I don't want to call them soft. I
don't think they respond. And maybe this is the right
way to go. Maybe this is evolution. Maybe we were
silly for liking that Lou Holtz grabbed face masks or
ed chef made you box your your third baseman before practice.
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You know, maybe that was stupid and we've held on
to that stuff for way too long, thinking that's how
you get the most out of young people. You've got
to be authoritative. Maybe this is the right way to go.
And it's not that Dan Wilson or Steven vote coddle
players or are soft with players or are too gentle
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with players. But I do believe today's young athlete does
respond to hard tactics, and so that's why Kevin cites
her and we always do his voice in that soft,
loving way that he speaks to everyone. Probably worked really
well with this team. Maybe he didn't have revolutionary ideas
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for hitting. Maybe he just had a way to approach
players that they responded well to, and so they absorbed
more of what he was teaching them. I think that's
where we're at right now. I don't think Brian Kelly
works right now in college football that hard disciplinarian that
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yells at players on the field and then trashes them
in post game press conferences. Dan Wilson is a shining
example of you can be a little old school, but
you better figure out how to communicate with young athletes today,
young men today who really don't respond to that hard
hand tactic that you and I grew up with.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, I mean you're essentially if you're a coach kind
of a doctor, and if any doctor goes out there
and just treats every patient exactly the same, I go, oh,
you have a cold, then here's something that cures cancer,
you know, No, you have to treat them differently. And
I think that that's one thing the old school. If
there was a mistake with old school, and I think
there's something about toughening people up, because then when the
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pressure is the there's the most pressure, the toughness will
come up, it'll rise to the surface. That said, you
can't nowadays, you most certainly can't just be all old
school hard knows, you know. But at the same time,
I think there's certain people that will respond better to
being coach hard. And there most certainly is a lot
of players now that want to be you know, delivered
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to them in a soft way.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Well, you got and you've got to play to the majority. Now, yeah, yeah,
you gant it just because you got one or two
guys that want to be coached hard. You can't get
a coach who coaches hard. Hopefully he's able to do
that too.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Coach most coach those that are soft softly you know,
and or you know, I mean, just give it to
him in a softer way. And then when there's somebody
that you know, they respond with the light of fire
under that's you should be able to do that as well.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I'll say this about Dan Wilson. Even though I didn't
agree with a lot of his ex'es and o's this year,
I know that he excels in that area. I know
that he excels in that area. And that's why you
get to the end of a season where everybody's bashing
the manager for the decision that they feel cost them
the World Series, and Jerry Depoto speaks to the press
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and says he's our guy, and you don't understand how
much he's loved in that locker room. He's not going anywhere.
That's why, because Dan Wilson has that part of managing
in the year twenty twenty five down cold. All right,
let's find out what's on tap, Chuck and buy what's
on TEP.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
What's on tep?
Speaker 5 (20:47):
All right, Sally?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
On award tonight, Derek Scouobel is expected to win it
on the American League side, maybe a little more interesting
on the n L side, And of course we're all
building up to Thursday to find out finally if cal
Rawley's going to win the American League MVP over Aaron Judge. Also,
Andy McKay, by the way, left the organization for the Mariners.
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He's kind of their psychology development guy over there, assistant
general manager, and apparently Cleveland really liked what he was
doing with the Mariners and lured him away. I don't
know any more about this other than Andy McKay's not
going to be around anymore. Columbus two to one winners
over Cracking in a shootout, Crack and lose another shootout,
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another overtime game. Yeah, they're getting points regularly, but two
points are better. They will play Thursday at home against
Winnipeg Alciniski'll join us today at nine to thirty. College
basketball Coogs Huskies will meet Friday night and Pullman. Last night,
the Zags a very impressive win, nineteenth ranked over number
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twenty three Creighton. Ninety to sixty three was the final score.
The Zags ran him out of the gym. College football
Huskies will host Perdue this Saturday. Cam Cleveland will join
us as he does every Wednesday, at eight o'clock. We'll
get his thoughts on Jed Fish and many other things.
College football playoff rankings came out last night. We'll discuss
it thoroughly coming up here at six forty five. No
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time to get into the details right now, but yes,
new rankings are out and there was some shakeup, and
of course it is hump day, and so we start
really focusing on the next Seahawks opponent, the Rams, and
coming up on the other side, we will discuss, speaking
of coaches, this fascinating coaching matchup McDonald versus McVeigh. Oh,
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it's gonna be McGray. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
Bet Man, this is a different cat right here. This
thing is huge. I mean for middle of the season
and we're still in the middle portion of the season.
To have this big of a game, this hyped of
a game. We talked a little bit yesterday about I
hope that the Seahawks aren't peaking too soon in the season,
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but this is gonna be like heak regular season, you know,
euphoria when it comes to getting ready for a game.
This is a monster, a monster taking on the Rams
on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Well, yeah, both are playing well, both have good records.
You have a tight division right where there's basically three
out of the four teams are still in it. For
the most part. You can't really count out anybody because
considering how many games are left. But I think you
can pretty much count Arizona out and so yeah, you're
sitting there like, okay, not very often in what are
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we week eleven, week twelve, week eleven, I get it
mixed up because college whatever.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
But well as we're seven to twos and we had
to buy so a week.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
So week eleven. Yeah, so it's uh, you know, at
this point in the season, you don't typically have a
game where you're like, boy, the difference between winning it
and losing it is so drastic, right, I mean now
it's still is going to be You're still gonna be
within one game if you lose, and vice a versa.
But it's it's not the end of the world. Yeah,
it feels big. It feels like they're a whole heck
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of a lot more hanging in the balance than just
your typical run of the mill regular season game, even
the run of the mill regular season you know, divisional game.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, I don't think the division is on the line
this Sunday. It's just, man, you just in terms of
a regular season matchup, a divisional matchup. I mean, these
feel like two runaway trains right now when it comes
to momentum or in this case mcmentum with McDonald versus
McVeigh even. I mean to think about how good we're
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going and they're going just as well. Yeah, think about
how good we're going right now here in Seattle and
the Rams are like, well, they're going just as well.
So I don't know what you're bragging about. We got
same record. We're dominating teams as of late. So that's
even the MC quarterbacks. I mean, it's Stafford versus Donald.
I mean, Stafford and Sam Darnald are getting MVP consideration
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halfway through the year. Stafford's considered the favorite in a
lot of circles, with Sam right there nipping at his heels.
The mcdefense both top five. Both are top five, and
the Rams defense is better than our defense. Statistically, we're fifth,
their second. They allow only seventeen points per game. So
isn't it interesting that most people are expecting a high
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scoring game on Sunday when you have two top five
defenses in the National Football League. But there's a reason
for it because both mcoffenses are both top five. That's right.
We're third thirty and a half points per game. Who
saw that coming? The Rams are fifth twenty eight points
per game. And I think it all comes down to
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the mc coaches. I mean, this is McVeigh versus McDonald.
This is the biggest storyline. I think this is the
absolute headline topic heading into this week. And it goes
back to when Mike McDonald was hired, and Hugh Millen's
analysis immediately was, we are in a division with arguably
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two of the best offensive minds, if not the best
offensive mines in the game right now, and Shanahan and McVeigh.
So if you're John Schneider and you're moving on from
Pete Carroll, what's your move? Do you try to get
Ben Johnson or the next offensive mine that can hang
with these two Because by the way, they're both very
young still, especially McVeigh mcveigh's thirty nine, McDonald's thirty eight.
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Think about how young Mike McDonald is and new to
this job, and Sean McVay feels like he's been around forever.
He's only a year older. So they're not going anywhere
unless they just decide I have enough money and it's
too much stress, I'm gonna go raise children and have
an ant farm. I don't see that coming. And so
they're not going anywhere anytime soon. And so Hugh talked
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about like this. Mike McDonald hire is John Schneider saying,
if I got to go up against two offensive geniuses
four times every single season, then I want the ultimate
counter chess move. Give me the next defensive genius. And
he hired Mike McDonald, and here we go first year.
That year. You know, Mike McDonald's just getting used to
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being a head coach. Now he's really sinking his teeth
the end of the position. And believe me, Sean McVay
and Kyle Shanahan know they've got their work cut out for.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Them when they face Mike McDonald. Yeah, the idea of
these two teams, you're right. I mean, I think beginning
of the season, right, if we didn't have we don't
have a crystal ball. If you just think about McVeigh,
he's known for the offensive genius that he is, right,
he's known for the fact that he does things that
seem really hard to figure out, and even though people
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maybe start to figure out some of his tendencies, he
keeps coming up with ways to keep it new, keep
it fresh, keep being right there. As far as winning
the division and doing some damage in the playoffs, and
yet to some degree, they're the stamp right now on
them is their defense, Like you said that, like, right now,
we're happy about our defense. I think the give up
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nineteen points a game or something like that. They give
up seventeen points of games. And some of that is okay,
who have you played? But it were far enough into
the season that it's enough of a sample size. And
on the flip side of it, you think about, you know,
the Seahawks and McDonald you're like, pooh, this defense something.
And yet the biggest surprise or the thing that is
the most pleasant around here. Yeah, the defense is amazing,
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but boy, this offense. Look at how potent this offense
can be. And and they so. To me, it's there's storylines,
the obvious storylines, and then really the further you dig
into it, there there's even more intriguing storylines.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Oh it's Mike fascinating.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Yeah, And everybody is putting out you know, their NFL
power rankings, and we were number one last week.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Well now they've got the Rams number one and us
number two.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
There. Oh that's mc trash talk. That is y that
is and you know what I think is the most
encouraging thing about this when and trying to figure out
because this has been such a fun season. The team
seems to be on a roll. We're all convinced that
John Schneider just had a grand Slam, not just a
home run, but a grand slam with his head coaching
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higher controversially as it was, I mean, because it didn't
look like Pete Carroll was ready to be fired, and
yet he made the move and brings in young Mike
McDonald And now it just doesn't it doesn't look like
it could have made a better choice at this point.
But think about what you said about the Rams. Sean
mcvay's kind of become a full service head coach. Now
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he's got enough skin in the game. He's won a
super Bowl championship. I mean, it really does feel like,
at age thirty nine, he's got it all figured out.
I mean, we're going against a titan in this National
Football League. We might be facing the best head coach
in the game right now in Sean McVay. If not
Andy Reid, it's probably Sean McVay. But doesn't it make
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sense that if you are an offensive genius, that you
really have to really understand defense too. Yeah, doesn't that
make sense? I Bill Belichick was a defensive genius. But
when the Patriots were going well, I mean he was
really hands on with the offense. He flipped over to
the other side and kind of unlocked their offense as well.
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And So for Sean mcgay to get to the point
at age thirty nine, I mean, how many how many years?
Ten years already when was he hired? Fourteen Doogie howser basically,
So he's now to the point where it's like, there's
really not a flaw in his game. I think that
he's more hands on with personnel decisions all of that stuff,
and he's really got it down. But Mike McDonald, here
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he is in his second year and after John Schneider
fumbled around with a few of the personnel decisions that
he was finally midway through the season last year brave
enough to say this isn't working. Get me this kind
of guy. And now here you are on the offensive
side of the ball one year with Ryan Grubb, he's
not working. Get me this kind of guy. For Mike
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McDonald to already be aware enough on both both sides
of the ball of what he needs to have the
team that he wants, my goodness, I mean Sean McVay
got there within five six seven years, even though he'd
won a Super Bowl, it took him like five six
seven years to be a full service head coach. Do
we really have a guy that's figured it out in
a year and a half, like everything about the organization?
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Do we have that advanced of a head coach? Oh,
it's exciting, It is mic exciting, exciting, Yeah, exciting. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
The I mean the idea of running a roster as
big as an NFL roster and all of the things
that go into it, right, I mean, the lights aren't
brighter for any type of person at the helm of
any team. Right, we're just talking about the manager of
the year. There's not even he pales in comparison to
what you have to do, the things you have to
have your fingerprints on. And yet I think that's a
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perfect point that you just made of If you're going
to be an offensive mastermind, you better damn well understand
everything about defenses. Now, you maybe don't wake up in
the middle of the night with some defensive play that
you scribble on a scratch pad on your night stand
like a defensive minded guy, and vice versa.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I bet you he does now, yeah, and yet that that's.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
One of those to think that Mike McDonald doesn't understand
exactly what offenses in today's game are trying to do.
How are they're trying to, you know, pass, and then
when they're going to be what their tendencies are as
far as just across the board, not individual teams, but
across the board now is third and six. Of course
that's a passing, but does this team do that? Do
they pass short and then get yards after gets? All
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of that stuff goes into making you somebody that could
be called a mastermind or a defensive gurus is being
able to understand the other side. So I'm with you.
I mean, I think there's only three coaches that have
been in their spots longer than McVeigh has. Tomlin, Andy
Reid and John Harbaugh are the only three I think
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that have been in their spots longer than he has.
And he's thirty nine. Yeah, but I mean it's I
think for sure that he figured it out and now
all of a sudden he's a well rounded guy that
has his fingerprints all over that organization and has a
Super Bowl to show for it, And yet it doesn't
feel like our coach is any different as far as
the trajectory that he's possibly going to go on.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Get your mc popcorn, McReady. I mean it's going down
on Sunday. Coming up next College football Playoff Rankings, Week
number two, there's been a shakeup. Sports Radio ninety three
point three kJ r f M all right, headlines coming
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up at the top of the hour. Greg Bell will
join us as well. It is hum day as we
really sink our teeth into the Seahawks Rams game. I
think we've already done it. I got Rams stuck between
my teeth right now. Anybody got a tooth pick? He
just did your rest run out. I usually have one
on hand. College Football Playoff rankings came out last night
week number two, and not a huge shakeup, but there was.
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There were our three new teams that are in the
top twelve. Ohio States number one, Indiana and Texas A
and M are two and three. Even though the committee
chair said afterwards that was a really lengthy discussion as
to whether or not Texas A and M should jump
Indiana after Indiana's very very very narrow victory against Penn
State on Saturday, number four Alabama, they remained there Manda.
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They have an impressive resume. Number five is Georgia. Texas
Tech jumped up all the way to number six from
number eight, so the win over BYU, the committee saw
enough to move Texas Tech not only past BYU, who
they obviously supplanted, but also passed ole Miss as well,
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and so the Red Raiders are sitting there at number six.
Ole Miss falls to seven. Oregon and Notre Dame both
jump up one spot to eight and nine. Texas is
newly in. They were eleventh last week, but we're on
the outside looking in because you have to have an
ACC representative and you had to have a best of
five representative. So Texas now is in as the number
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ten seed and they have a huge game this weekend
against Georgia, and then it rounds out with eleven and twelve,
eleven being Miami, which is interesting. They are the ACC
representative right now with USF University of South Florida getting
that NOD as the mid Major at number twelve, they
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moved them ahead of James Madison even though James Madison
outranks them and the A people, so interesting little shake
up there. I think there are several different items that
are worth noting, but anything stand out to you.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
The lengthy discussion about A and M in Indiana. I
suppose because of the Notre Dame win that Texas A
and M had early that there are a lot of
people are thinking, well, why would we schedule something that
is non conference if they don't feel like they're getting
the same reward. I think, until you have all the
ingredients that are going to go into this bad boy,
I don't know if you need to get worried about
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whether or not they respect it, you know what I mean,
when all you have all the information, if they then
still don't, or if if you were behind in Indiana
that drops a game somewhere along the way, then you
would have something. But at this point, it's not like
your It's not like you're behind some chumps. I mean,
Indiana barely got by Penn State, but I think Penn
State is still a test. I think that you're not
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going to go in and just walk over those guys,
even though they kind of floundered a little bit before
the firing.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
There's nothing truer that can be said about this entire process.
Then this is really just an update of what the
panel is thinking, and the only thing that matters is
the final committee vote when all the resumes are in
and they can look through it with a mostly unbiased lens,
even though they do admit that eye test does come
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into play and certainly there are some biased individuals in
that room that you hopefully weed out by the time
you get to the end of the process. I think
the two most fascinating results though, are ten and eleven
Texas to jump up to number ten. Their resume is,
I mean, their schedule is so strong and they still
have two monster games. They still have to play Texas
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A and M and Georgia. Yeah, so not only are
they number ten, but there is a feeling, according to
Heather Dnich, that they can lose one of those two
games and still get in as a three loss team
because of how difficult their schedule has been this year.
The other one is Miami Miami right now. I mean
they have to put somebody'll in that ACC spot at
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number eleven. Miami right now is seventh in the conference. Really,
they are seventh in the ACC right now, and yet
they are the highest ranked ACC team. So they didn't go.
They didn't put temporarily in that place holding eleventh spot.
The team that right now is technically winning the conference.
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They just decided to go So if this is, in
our opinion, the most complete resume of any team in
the ACC, so why are we messing around with it.
Let's go ahead and shove them up. It's just a
temporary position anyway, to number eleven right now. I also
think they caved a little bit to the huge criticism
of how big the gap was between Notre Dame and
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Miami last week when Miami beat Notre Dame head to
head and they each have two losses this year. I
do think Notre Dame has the better resume and should
be ahead of Miami, but there was a lot of
criticism about how much Notre Dame was ahead of Miami,
and they think they tried to rectify that a little
bit this week.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah, it's interesting that whole where you're going to have
a representative from all the conferences, and so really it's
like a ten team playoff. Unless one of these other
teams jumps into the ten, then obviously you might you know,
you might find Oregon that squeaks in there as an
eleven if they were to drop a game or something
like that. So it's interest to me how that whole
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thing works out. And yet to me, it's it's almost like, Okay,
you know where they started after the first week, you
know where their head was at of what they thought
about teams. It's not just their record, it's not just
their strength to schedule, it's also the eye test everything
that they're taking into their little meeting and coming up
with these what number to put beside these teams? It's
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that and then okay, what happens from week to week
where they just kind of shuffle those things around a
little bit. And yet there's a lot of big games
coming down here, coming down the wire that's going to
shake the whole thing up.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Huge games this week in the SEC alone, al excuse me,
Georgia takes on Texas and Alabama takes on Oklahoma. That
could be a playoff elimination game for the Sooners. All right,
headlines next, Greg Bell as Well Sports Radio ninety three
point three KHRFM
Some time. Good morning, class leads and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Inducing six one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former high
school basketball stand What the hell.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Does that mean?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Don't jumped any conclusions. No, not a god, You've got
to lower lower your expectations.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to Pluto.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm getting some Bucky Jacobson vibes and former I'll just
openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped X athlete.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Now there's been a noticeable spike here your blood pressure.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Five seven guard and a former college water polo national champion.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
There's a lot of useless crap up here.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
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Speaker 5 (01:09):
Well, good Wednesday morning to you.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Welcome into the radio show that people call Chuck and
Buck in the Morning. Sports Radio ninety three point three
KJR FM. The good people, the good people of Seattle
and beyond. They call it Chuck and Buck in the Morning,
so you can't stop them from doing it. Really, my
name is Chuck Powell. Bucky Jacobson is here, Ashley Ryan
as well. Happy hump Day to you all. That's right,
(01:33):
we've made it to Wednesday here of this week, and
hump Day is the day worth celebrating, worth getting ready
for the biggest Seahawks game of the year, which is
coming up this Sunday against the Los Angeles Rams, and
we certainly will spend a lot of time on it.
Maybe not to start the show, but we will spend
a devote a lot of time to it. Here on
(01:55):
today's program. Let's check the health and wealth of the
members of the program. How's your knee better? Better?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Still gimping around a little bit. I guess it's part
of the process. Talk to the folks over there at
Pinnacle yesterday and there, yep, yeah, we shot you with
a little more ozone. I think it's different than the
thing that keeps some of the sun's bad rays out.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I don't think it is nailed yesterday.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I think that's correct.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
They grabbed some of that and shot at my knee.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Well because already so they're like, well, we don't need
this anymore because we're going to make a fake ozone.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
So let's figure out a use for the one we've got,
and you.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Should probably not use hairspray anymore.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
You probably please not aerosol.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It'll deteriorate the shot your knee.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well, good thing is it's been a minute since I've
used hairspray, so yeah, it's been a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Yeah, Well you spend around cows with gas though, because
that can also.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Be oh oh yeah cows. Yeah. Uh well, at least
it's the ozone layer that was put into your knee,
not the marine layer. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to
do anything very heavy.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Everything would be would fall short.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Everything would bog down.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, in your life, but then I'd be on par
with a lot of other people. I'd have something to
complain about when it comes to marine.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
There, you reached moments where you thought you were going
to hit peak excitement, but then right before it nothing. Oh.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I don't know what they're down. I don't know what
they're doing with medicine these days. But man, if they
shot the atmosphere into your knee, no under, it hurts.
Yeah right, Yeah, there's a lot to shoot in there.
It feels like they may be shot too much in there.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
It's a lot for you to take on.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, but you know as yes, it's so what doesn't
kill you makes you stronger, So I'm hoping it makes
me stronger.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
You're not any normal person.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I'm not exactly, not your run of the mill.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
That's exactly right. So keep it coming, keep on your
keep it coming, ozone.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Keep on keeping on.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Can't bring our guy down no matter how hard you
uh well, astulely. Both your knees are all right, feeling.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, they're both there. They're both ozone free. And I
did not one.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
No. I double checked too, because when I hopped out
of bed this morning and I was like, wait a minute, why.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Did I put my pants on one leg at a time? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I was like, are they both there?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Few they are, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah. I don't know about you, but I am one
of those that refuses to put my pants on one
leg at a time, So I jump into them just
so people can't say.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
That I do. Yeah, yeah, that you're not like everyone exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I'm better than that.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I right now barely put my pants on. That's another story.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
And are they shorts?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yes? Now, I kind of want to know what that story.
Do you have somebody else that puts your pants on
for you.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
No, it's just right now. Because my knee doesn't bend, gotch,
it's very hard to get them on. Okay, so I
have to like lassle it around my left. You have
a Belgian mallin wall. They're very smart. You're probably a
good teacher how to put your pants on?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Pants on?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Great?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I try to teach my dog.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
You'd just go stand on the pants and roll around
and make me scratch his belly.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
All right, Well, good morning to you. Welcome into our silliness.
It is Chuck Buck and Ashley with you here on
this Wednesday. And yes, I know a lot of people
have Seahawks on the brain, and we're gonna talk a
lot of Seahawks football today, get ready for the biggest
game of the year on a hump day to date anyway,
But I think we haven't talked. We haven't led with
baseball in a while since you know what happened. And
(05:17):
I think maybe this is worth leading with because there's
a topic here that I've been trying to get into
with Bucky and we just haven't had time to do it.
We've rushed through it a couple of times. But I
do believe that there's a topic here that yesterday's news
will lead us into. But let us start with yesterday's news.
Dan Wilson did not win American League Manager of the
Year last night. He ended up finishing third in the voting.
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Steven Vote won the vote and for the second year
in a row, and then second place went to John
Schneider and Dan finished third. And I think that I
think I think Dan, deep in his heart, kind of likes.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
That that's that's good.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
My first year as a manager, and I finished third
manager of the year voting, So I think that that's
an accomplishment in and of itself. I didn't expect him
to win the award. I don't think any of us
expected him to win the award, But not bad for
your first time out third place finish. At least those
nationally that write about baseball for a living are recognizing
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that you did some good things this year.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think it was about where
it probably should be. Where I think there was what
five folks that ended up getting votes. Obviously there was
only the three that were in the finals, and I
think that Dan probably deserved to be third. Where I
mean I was thinking more so Schneider. But I have
a hard time not putting personal what I've seen, and
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I've seen more. I saw more of the Blue Jays.
It was in the postseason. I know that's after the fact,
but the fact that they had more games. I was
thinking that's where the voters would land, they had won
more regular season games. But then you try to put
all the other stuff into the mix that they're probably
thinking about or should be thinking about, which what'd you
do and what you go through and all of the
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stuff that vote went through from you know, losing your
closer and they traded bieber away when he was getting
ready to be healthy to the Toronto Blue Jays, and
then the comeback that they had at the end of
the year to come up and sniper their division I
think was impressive and so I mean, very deserving. I
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wouldn't have been mad if anybody had wonted, right, It's
not like no, our guy was clear cut the guy
that should have won, period, Like I think about another award,
but I do think that it was kudos to him. Yeah,
first year as a full time manager, and you did
some good things and it was recognized.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
It really is, and I think it needs to be
pointed out, it really is an exercise, and you brought
this up yesterday. I think it's a great point is
that I probably am holding. I mean, if anybody thought, oh,
Seattle's going to back Seattle, right. I didn't give Dan
Wilson very high grades this year, not for his ex
as and O's, but I think I went out of
my way to say how valuable he is in many
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other areas as a manager to this baseball team, which
we're going to get into here in a moment. But
so I didn't have him winning. I wouldn't even have
named him Top three, frankly, but I did watch so
much more on almost every decision that Dan Wilson made,
and so maybe where Bucky saw the overexposure, saw all
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the good things in Dan and never got to see
them in the other candidates, I might have saw more
failures that Dan from Dan's perspective, and maybe I held
that against him. So really it does come down to this.
It's a it's it's baseball riders from across your league
who see you for a handful of games, and what
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the award Manager of the Year comes down to is
who they believe as a collective got the most out
of their team based off of the talent that they
were given by management and ownership, and then hurdles they
overcame during the course of the year to achieve whatever
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it is that they achieved. And so I think a
lot of people saw the Seattle Mariners as being a
good team going into the year with a chance at
winning the division. The fact that they won the division,
I think nationally, Dan Wilson got some credit for that,
and maybe a little bit of credit that he didn't
quite deserve, because I don't think that they overachieved as
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a baseball team under his guidance this year, where I
think maybe Toronto did. I think maybe Alex Cora and
Steven Vote overcame a lot of hurdles that maybe Dan
didn't have to overcome. And I think that that's why
I would probably personally lean toward those guys, even though
I didn't watch the manage nearly as much as what
I did Dan Wilson this year. And so I think
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that's what the national collective is telling you is that
here's Steven Vote, who operates with a much smaller payroll
than the other winners in Major League Baseball. He overcame
obstacles like a gambling scandal and everything else. This year,
he dragged his team out of the depths of despair
and rallied to chase down the Detroit Tigers and win
the division. Again. He gets my vote. Now, there was
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also part of that is his team couldn't score a
run for a month and a half. There's a reason
why they dug a hole for themselves. And it wasn't
just because Emmanuel Classe likes to throw pitches, and I
mean throw pitches in another sense. And also the Tigers
did all of them a lot of favors by crumbling
and falling apart themselves, which Cleveland had nothing to do with.
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But I don't have a problem with him winning the award.
I do recognize the hurdles that he overcame, and I
think that he is an excellent young manager and he's
only forty one and he's already won Ashley back to
back Manager of the Year wars.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yeah, he definitely is deserving.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
I did hear an argument though today that was like, well,
could a manager or should somebody win Manager of the
Year twice in a row, because when you think about that,
you did enough to win it last year. That means
you've got a pretty good situation going now right where
your season's leaving on because you just went Manager of
the Year. So you guys are in a good situation.
Then you come back, well, now if you do it
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all over again, were you really worthy of Manager.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Of the Year?
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Which I could understand that argument just looking at it,
but looking at his situation and as you mentioned, the
things he actually had to go through, it wasn't like
he just started off with the same team he had
last year and went through the season and had success.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I actually like that about what the vote went. That
voters didn't use that against Steven vote. I think that
happens far too frequently. I don't think I mean, Phil
Jackson hardly ever got recognized as in the postseason awards
because you've got Michael Jordan. That's not now. Phil Jackson
was masterful and should have won five, six, seven Coach
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of the Year awards. Joe Tory should have won Manager
of the Year awards. I mean he had to manage
a Rod and Jeter and all of these huge personalities
in one year after year. I think I think that
sometimes these voters put hurdles in front of them, like like, well,
they have too much going for them, or he won
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it last year, we got to go with somebody else
this year. I wish they wouldn't do that. So that
was actually the one thing that I liked about the
vote last night. Both American League and National League Managers
of the Year repeated last night, and I like that
the voters didn't let get in the way. I voted
for him last year, I can't possibly vote for him
this year. No, do you believe he was the best manager?
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Do you believe he got the most out of his team?
And if you think it's the same damn guy, then
vote for the same damn guy.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, I mean I can see that. To me, it'd
be like, I mean, the full extent of that where
Ashley's talking about, would be like, what would you feel
like if they gave Dave Roberts the Manager of the
Year considering how stacked that team is, right, It'd be like,
come on right? Yeah, So that's the full extent or
the extreme on that side. On the other side, it's
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I think part of what goes into it when you're
talking about what do they have and what did he do?
What did he make with what he had? I think
part of that goes into Okay, well, how much money
do they spend?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Right?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Where are they at when it comes to that. That's
where if I do think of the Mariners, where I
don't think they overachieved necessarily. I don't necessarily think they
underachieved simply because if you look at what achieved, yeah,
they achieved. They they did what I thought that they
were going to do. I mean, maybe they were a
few games short of whatever my prediction was, but I'm
pretty optimistic when it comes to picking. I think ninety
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four wins or something that I said for them, but
they're right there and yet to me, it's like, when
you look at this roster, I don't think of it
as as low as what the actual pay is, simply
because you have a bunch of guys pitching staff in particular,
that are pitching like twenty million dollars a year, thirty
forty million dollars a year pitchers, and yet they're not
making that money yet, you know. So to me, that's
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us knowing the roster. Whereas you know when it comes
to Cleveland, and Cleveland's down there, I mean, they're way
towards the bottom of what they spend on their roster
and yet to go out there and find a way
after you dug yourself a hole, you dug yourself the hole.
I mean, you didn't play well, and Detroit played exceptionally well,
but when they crumbled down the stretch, you did everything
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you needed to do at that point in time. And
that's getting hot at the right time. Like we talked
about a little bit yesterday in regards to the NFL,
I think there's something that the manager has about that
has to do with that. Like, hey, guys, look how
far behind we are right now, fifteen games or whatever
it was. We're fifteen games back of these guys. It
doesn't matter. Let's go win today and make it fourteen.
Let's go win today and make it thirteen and just
take care of your own business. And I think that
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he's I mean, to be two years into your managing
career and you've been the manager year twice, there's something
to that. I mean, he's good at what he does.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. And I just to clarify that, Dave Roberts,
I don't think they overachieved. I think they underachieved during
the regular season. A roster that good and you didn't
win one hundred and ten games.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I mean they didn't even get a bye in the
first round for goodness sake. So no Dave Roberts. But
I'm my point about that is, I don't think you
get eliminated just because people think you have the best talent.
I mean, the year Phil Jackson and the Bulls went
what seventy three and nine or whatever, Yeah, maybe he
did some good things that and shouldn't be eliminated from
the conversation. Well, we've done it to ourselves again. We've
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spent fifteen minutes on this topic. It ran out of
the times that I wanted to discuss this other topic
that I've been dying to talk about. And so I'll
just say briefly that I think what you are seeing
because we've had a really curious manager hiring cycle in
Major League Baseball. Some guys that weren't on the radar period.
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A college coach with zero professional coaching experience has been
hired a relief pitcher. I mean, there's not a manager
in Major League Baseball right now who was a major
league pitcher until Craig Stammon got hired by the Padres,
and he wasn't even a start. Can you imagine as
weird as as relief pitchers are handing over the reins
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to your team to a relief pitcher and recently retired
like played last year. Can you imagine thinking that a
relief pitcher, one year removed from the is ready to
be a manager of a Major League Baseball team.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
He just has must be, must have been that leader
in the clubhouse, which usually it's not a relief pitcher.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Usually a relief pitcher.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I mean, it's it's you know, you can come in
all different walks and shapes and sizes. It typically is
a guy like catcher. There's a reason why. Yeah, probably
five or six of the guys that were up for
the Manager of the Year were former catchers, as they
just they tend to gravitate towards that the general I
run this thing. Relief pitchers typically don't. They might be
the gesture over in the corner.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
What I thought of as the guys that play grab
ass in the bullpen the whole game and don't even
pay attention until it's their time to stretch, right, you know.
And so for I mean, it's it's been a bizarre
Major League Baseball managerial cycle and The only thing that
I can take from it that tries to explain it
is I think. I mean, we see trends all the time,
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hiring trends, particularly owners, general managers. They see something that's
working and they want to copy that. And I think
what you are seeing right now in Major League Baseball,
and maybe we're seeing it and in the NFL, maybe
we're seeing it at the college level. Maybe it's the
reason Brian Dayball and his old school I yell at
my quarterback tactics just expired this week in the middle
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of the season. And I think it's not that today's
young players. I don't want to call them soft. I
don't think they respond. And maybe this is the right
way to go. Maybe this is evolution. Maybe we were
silly for liking that Lou Holtz grabbed face masks or
ed chef made you box your your third baseman before practice.
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You know, maybe that was stupid and we've held on
to that stuff for way too long, thinking that's how
you get the most out of young people. You've got
to be authoritative. Maybe this is the right way to go.
And it's not that Dan Wilson or Steven vote coddle
players or are soft with players or are too gentle
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with players. But I do believe today's young athlete does
respond to hard tactics, and so that's why Kevin cites
her and we always do his voice in that soft,
loving way that he speaks to everyone. Probably worked really
well with this team. Maybe he didn't have revolutionary ideas
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for hitting. Maybe he just had a way to approach
players that they responded well to, and so they absorbed
more of what he was teaching them. I think that's
where we're at right now. I don't think Brian Kelly
works right now in college football that hard disciplinarian that
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yells at players on the field and then trashes them
in post game press conferences. Dan Wilson is a shining
example of you can be a little old school, but
you better figure out how to communicate with young athletes today,
young men today who really don't respond to that hard
hand tactic that you and I grew up with.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, I mean you're essentially if you're a coach kind
of a doctor, and if any doctor goes out there
and just treats every patient exactly the same, I go, oh,
you have a cold, then here's something that cures cancer,
you know, No, you have to treat them differently. And
I think that that's one thing the old school. If
there was a mistake with old school, and I think
there's something about toughening people up, because then when the
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pressure is the there's the most pressure, the toughness will
come up, it'll rise to the surface. That said, you
can't nowadays, you most certainly can't just be all old
school hard knows, you know. But at the same time,
I think there's certain people that will respond better to
being coach hard. And there most certainly is a lot
of players now that want to be you know, delivered
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to them in a soft way.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Well, you got and you've got to play to the majority. Now, yeah, yeah,
you gant it just because you got one or two
guys that want to be coached hard. You can't get
a coach who coaches hard. Hopefully he's able to do
that too.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Coach most coach those that are soft softly you know,
and or you know, I mean, just give it to
him in a softer way. And then when there's somebody
that you know, they respond with the light of fire
under that's you should be able to do that as well.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I'll say this about Dan Wilson. Even though I didn't
agree with a lot of his ex'es and o's this year,
I know that he excels in that area. I know
that he excels in that area. And that's why you
get to the end of a season where everybody's bashing
the manager for the decision that they feel cost them
the World Series, and Jerry Depoto speaks to the press
(20:27):
and says he's our guy, and you don't understand how
much he's loved in that locker room. He's not going anywhere.
That's why, because Dan Wilson has that part of managing
in the year twenty twenty five down cold. All right,
let's find out what's on tap, Chuck and buy what's
on TEP.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
What's on tep?
Speaker 5 (20:47):
All right, Sally?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
On award tonight, Derek Scouobel is expected to win it
on the American League side, maybe a little more interesting
on the n L side, And of course we're all
building up to Thursday to find out finally if cal
Rawley's going to win the American League MVP over Aaron Judge. Also,
Andy McKay, by the way, left the organization for the Mariners.
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He's kind of their psychology development guy over there, assistant
general manager, and apparently Cleveland really liked what he was
doing with the Mariners and lured him away. I don't
know any more about this other than Andy McKay's not
going to be around anymore. Columbus two to one winners
over Cracking in a shootout, Crack and lose another shootout,
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another overtime game. Yeah, they're getting points regularly, but two
points are better. They will play Thursday at home against
Winnipeg Alciniski'll join us today at nine to thirty. College
basketball Coogs Huskies will meet Friday night and Pullman. Last night,
the Zags a very impressive win, nineteenth ranked over number
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twenty three Creighton. Ninety to sixty three was the final score.
The Zags ran him out of the gym. College football
Huskies will host Perdue this Saturday. Cam Cleveland will join
us as he does every Wednesday, at eight o'clock. We'll
get his thoughts on Jed Fish and many other things.
College football playoff rankings came out last night. We'll discuss
it thoroughly coming up here at six forty five. No
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time to get into the details right now, but yes,
new rankings are out and there was some shakeup, and
of course it is hump day, and so we start
really focusing on the next Seahawks opponent, the Rams, and
coming up on the other side, we will discuss, speaking
of coaches, this fascinating coaching matchup McDonald versus McVeigh. Oh,
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it's gonna be McGray. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
Bet Man, this is a different cat right here. This
thing is huge. I mean for middle of the season
and we're still in the middle portion of the season.
To have this big of a game, this hyped of
a game. We talked a little bit yesterday about I
hope that the Seahawks aren't peaking too soon in the season,
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but this is gonna be like heak regular season, you know,
euphoria when it comes to getting ready for a game.
This is a monster, a monster taking on the Rams
on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Well, yeah, both are playing well, both have good records.
You have a tight division right where there's basically three
out of the four teams are still in it. For
the most part. You can't really count out anybody because
considering how many games are left. But I think you
can pretty much count Arizona out and so yeah, you're
sitting there like, okay, not very often in what are
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we week eleven, week twelve, week eleven, I get it
mixed up because college whatever.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
But well as we're seven to twos and we had
to buy so a week.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
So week eleven. Yeah, so it's uh, you know, at
this point in the season, you don't typically have a
game where you're like, boy, the difference between winning it
and losing it is so drastic, right, I mean now
it's still is going to be You're still gonna be
within one game if you lose, and vice a versa.
But it's it's not the end of the world. Yeah,
it feels big. It feels like they're a whole heck
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of a lot more hanging in the balance than just
your typical run of the mill regular season game, even
the run of the mill regular season you know, divisional game.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, I don't think the division is on the line
this Sunday. It's just, man, you just in terms of
a regular season matchup, a divisional matchup. I mean, these
feel like two runaway trains right now when it comes
to momentum or in this case mcmentum with McDonald versus
McVeigh even. I mean to think about how good we're
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going and they're going just as well. Yeah, think about
how good we're going right now here in Seattle and
the Rams are like, well, they're going just as well.
So I don't know what you're bragging about. We got
same record. We're dominating teams as of late. So that's
even the MC quarterbacks. I mean, it's Stafford versus Donald.
I mean, Stafford and Sam Darnald are getting MVP consideration
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halfway through the year. Stafford's considered the favorite in a
lot of circles, with Sam right there nipping at his heels.
The mcdefense both top five. Both are top five, and
the Rams defense is better than our defense. Statistically, we're fifth,
their second. They allow only seventeen points per game. So
isn't it interesting that most people are expecting a high
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scoring game on Sunday when you have two top five
defenses in the National Football League. But there's a reason
for it because both mcoffenses are both top five. That's right.
We're third thirty and a half points per game. Who
saw that coming? The Rams are fifth twenty eight points
per game. And I think it all comes down to
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the mc coaches. I mean, this is McVeigh versus McDonald.
This is the biggest storyline. I think this is the
absolute headline topic heading into this week. And it goes
back to when Mike McDonald was hired, and Hugh Millen's
analysis immediately was, we are in a division with arguably
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two of the best offensive minds, if not the best
offensive mines in the game right now, and Shanahan and McVeigh.
So if you're John Schneider and you're moving on from
Pete Carroll, what's your move? Do you try to get
Ben Johnson or the next offensive mine that can hang
with these two Because by the way, they're both very
young still, especially McVeigh mcveigh's thirty nine, McDonald's thirty eight.
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Think about how young Mike McDonald is and new to
this job, and Sean McVay feels like he's been around forever.
He's only a year older. So they're not going anywhere
unless they just decide I have enough money and it's
too much stress, I'm gonna go raise children and have
an ant farm. I don't see that coming. And so
they're not going anywhere anytime soon. And so Hugh talked
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about like this. Mike McDonald hire is John Schneider saying,
if I got to go up against two offensive geniuses
four times every single season, then I want the ultimate
counter chess move. Give me the next defensive genius. And
he hired Mike McDonald, and here we go first year.
That year. You know, Mike McDonald's just getting used to
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being a head coach. Now he's really sinking his teeth
the end of the position. And believe me, Sean McVay
and Kyle Shanahan know they've got their work cut out for.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Them when they face Mike McDonald. Yeah, the idea of
these two teams, you're right. I mean, I think beginning
of the season, right, if we didn't have we don't
have a crystal ball. If you just think about McVeigh,
he's known for the offensive genius that he is, right,
he's known for the fact that he does things that
seem really hard to figure out, and even though people
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maybe start to figure out some of his tendencies, he
keeps coming up with ways to keep it new, keep
it fresh, keep being right there. As far as winning
the division and doing some damage in the playoffs, and
yet to some degree, they're the stamp right now on
them is their defense, Like you said that, like, right now,
we're happy about our defense. I think the give up
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nineteen points a game or something like that. They give
up seventeen points of games. And some of that is okay,
who have you played? But it were far enough into
the season that it's enough of a sample size. And
on the flip side of it, you think about, you know,
the Seahawks and McDonald you're like, pooh, this defense something.
And yet the biggest surprise or the thing that is
the most pleasant around here. Yeah, the defense is amazing,
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but boy, this offense. Look at how potent this offense
can be. And and they so. To me, it's there's storylines,
the obvious storylines, and then really the further you dig
into it, there there's even more intriguing storylines.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Oh it's Mike fascinating.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Yeah, And everybody is putting out you know, their NFL
power rankings, and we were number one last week.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Well now they've got the Rams number one and us
number two.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
There. Oh that's mc trash talk. That is y that
is and you know what I think is the most
encouraging thing about this when and trying to figure out
because this has been such a fun season. The team
seems to be on a roll. We're all convinced that
John Schneider just had a grand Slam, not just a
home run, but a grand slam with his head coaching
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higher controversially as it was, I mean, because it didn't
look like Pete Carroll was ready to be fired, and
yet he made the move and brings in young Mike
McDonald And now it just doesn't it doesn't look like
it could have made a better choice at this point.
But think about what you said about the Rams. Sean
mcvay's kind of become a full service head coach. Now
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he's got enough skin in the game. He's won a
super Bowl championship. I mean, it really does feel like,
at age thirty nine, he's got it all figured out.
I mean, we're going against a titan in this National
Football League. We might be facing the best head coach
in the game right now in Sean McVay. If not
Andy Reid, it's probably Sean McVay. But doesn't it make
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sense that if you are an offensive genius, that you
really have to really understand defense too. Yeah, doesn't that
make sense? I Bill Belichick was a defensive genius. But
when the Patriots were going well, I mean he was
really hands on with the offense. He flipped over to
the other side and kind of unlocked their offense as well.
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And So for Sean mcgay to get to the point
at age thirty nine, I mean, how many how many years?
Ten years already when was he hired? Fourteen Doogie howser basically,
So he's now to the point where it's like, there's
really not a flaw in his game. I think that
he's more hands on with personnel decisions all of that stuff,
and he's really got it down. But Mike McDonald, here
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he is in his second year and after John Schneider
fumbled around with a few of the personnel decisions that
he was finally midway through the season last year brave
enough to say this isn't working. Get me this kind
of guy. And now here you are on the offensive
side of the ball one year with Ryan Grubb, he's
not working. Get me this kind of guy. For Mike
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McDonald to already be aware enough on both both sides
of the ball of what he needs to have the
team that he wants, my goodness, I mean Sean McVay
got there within five six seven years, even though he'd
won a Super Bowl, it took him like five six
seven years to be a full service head coach. Do
we really have a guy that's figured it out in
a year and a half, like everything about the organization?
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Do we have that advanced of a head coach? Oh,
it's exciting, It is mic exciting, exciting, Yeah, exciting. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
The I mean the idea of running a roster as
big as an NFL roster and all of the things
that go into it, right, I mean, the lights aren't
brighter for any type of person at the helm of
any team. Right, we're just talking about the manager of
the year. There's not even he pales in comparison to
what you have to do, the things you have to
have your fingerprints on. And yet I think that's a
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perfect point that you just made of If you're going
to be an offensive mastermind, you better damn well understand
everything about defenses. Now, you maybe don't wake up in
the middle of the night with some defensive play that
you scribble on a scratch pad on your night stand
like a defensive minded guy, and vice versa.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I bet you he does now, yeah, and yet that that's.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
One of those to think that Mike McDonald doesn't understand
exactly what offenses in today's game are trying to do.
How are they're trying to, you know, pass, and then
when they're going to be what their tendencies are as
far as just across the board, not individual teams, but
across the board now is third and six. Of course
that's a passing, but does this team do that? Do
they pass short and then get yards after gets? All
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of that stuff goes into making you somebody that could
be called a mastermind or a defensive gurus is being
able to understand the other side. So I'm with you.
I mean, I think there's only three coaches that have
been in their spots longer than McVeigh has. Tomlin, Andy
Reid and John Harbaugh are the only three I think
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that have been in their spots longer than he has.
And he's thirty nine. Yeah, but I mean it's I
think for sure that he figured it out and now
all of a sudden he's a well rounded guy that
has his fingerprints all over that organization and has a
Super Bowl to show for it, And yet it doesn't
feel like our coach is any different as far as
the trajectory that he's possibly going to go on.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Get your mc popcorn, McReady. I mean it's going down
on Sunday. Coming up next College football Playoff Rankings, Week
number two, there's been a shakeup. Sports Radio ninety three
point three kJ r f M all right, headlines coming
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up at the top of the hour. Greg Bell will
join us as well. It is hum day as we
really sink our teeth into the Seahawks Rams game. I
think we've already done it. I got Rams stuck between
my teeth right now. Anybody got a tooth pick? He
just did your rest run out. I usually have one
on hand. College Football Playoff rankings came out last night
week number two, and not a huge shakeup, but there was.
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There were our three new teams that are in the
top twelve. Ohio States number one, Indiana and Texas A
and M are two and three. Even though the committee
chair said afterwards that was a really lengthy discussion as
to whether or not Texas A and M should jump
Indiana after Indiana's very very very narrow victory against Penn
State on Saturday, number four Alabama, they remained there Manda.
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They have an impressive resume. Number five is Georgia. Texas
Tech jumped up all the way to number six from
number eight, so the win over BYU, the committee saw
enough to move Texas Tech not only past BYU, who
they obviously supplanted, but also passed ole Miss as well,
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and so the Red Raiders are sitting there at number six.
Ole Miss falls to seven. Oregon and Notre Dame both
jump up one spot to eight and nine. Texas is
newly in. They were eleventh last week, but we're on
the outside looking in because you have to have an
ACC representative and you had to have a best of
five representative. So Texas now is in as the number
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ten seed and they have a huge game this weekend
against Georgia, and then it rounds out with eleven and twelve,
eleven being Miami, which is interesting. They are the ACC
representative right now with USF University of South Florida getting
that NOD as the mid Major at number twelve, they
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moved them ahead of James Madison even though James Madison
outranks them and the A people, so interesting little shake
up there. I think there are several different items that
are worth noting, but anything stand out to you.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
The lengthy discussion about A and M in Indiana. I
suppose because of the Notre Dame win that Texas A
and M had early that there are a lot of
people are thinking, well, why would we schedule something that
is non conference if they don't feel like they're getting
the same reward. I think, until you have all the
ingredients that are going to go into this bad boy,
I don't know if you need to get worried about
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whether or not they respect it, you know what I mean,
when all you have all the information, if they then
still don't, or if if you were behind in Indiana
that drops a game somewhere along the way, then you
would have something. But at this point, it's not like
your It's not like you're behind some chumps. I mean,
Indiana barely got by Penn State, but I think Penn
State is still a test. I think that you're not
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going to go in and just walk over those guys,
even though they kind of floundered a little bit before
the firing.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
There's nothing truer that can be said about this entire process.
Then this is really just an update of what the
panel is thinking, and the only thing that matters is
the final committee vote when all the resumes are in
and they can look through it with a mostly unbiased lens,
even though they do admit that eye test does come
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into play and certainly there are some biased individuals in
that room that you hopefully weed out by the time
you get to the end of the process. I think
the two most fascinating results though, are ten and eleven
Texas to jump up to number ten. Their resume is,
I mean, their schedule is so strong and they still
have two monster games. They still have to play Texas
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A and M and Georgia. Yeah, so not only are
they number ten, but there is a feeling, according to
Heather Dnich, that they can lose one of those two
games and still get in as a three loss team
because of how difficult their schedule has been this year.
The other one is Miami Miami right now. I mean
they have to put somebody'll in that ACC spot at
(37:36):
number eleven. Miami right now is seventh in the conference. Really,
they are seventh in the ACC right now, and yet
they are the highest ranked ACC team. So they didn't go.
They didn't put temporarily in that place holding eleventh spot.
The team that right now is technically winning the conference.
(37:58):
They just decided to go So if this is, in
our opinion, the most complete resume of any team in
the ACC, so why are we messing around with it.
Let's go ahead and shove them up. It's just a
temporary position anyway, to number eleven right now. I also
think they caved a little bit to the huge criticism
of how big the gap was between Notre Dame and
(38:21):
Miami last week when Miami beat Notre Dame head to
head and they each have two losses this year. I
do think Notre Dame has the better resume and should
be ahead of Miami, but there was a lot of
criticism about how much Notre Dame was ahead of Miami,
and they think they tried to rectify that a little
bit this week.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah, it's interesting that whole where you're going to have
a representative from all the conferences, and so really it's
like a ten team playoff. Unless one of these other
teams jumps into the ten, then obviously you might you know,
you might find Oregon that squeaks in there as an
eleven if they were to drop a game or something
like that. So it's interest to me how that whole
(39:01):
thing works out. And yet to me, it's it's almost like, Okay,
you know where they started after the first week, you
know where their head was at of what they thought
about teams. It's not just their record, it's not just
their strength to schedule, it's also the eye test everything
that they're taking into their little meeting and coming up
with these what number to put beside these teams? It's
(39:22):
that and then okay, what happens from week to week
where they just kind of shuffle those things around a
little bit. And yet there's a lot of big games
coming down here, coming down the wire that's going to
shake the whole thing up.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Huge games this week in the SEC alone, al excuse me,
Georgia takes on Texas and Alabama takes on Oklahoma. That
could be a playoff elimination game for the Sooners. All right,
headlines next, Greg Bell as Well Sports Radio ninety three
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