November 12, 2025 • 35 mins
Headlines and 12th man news with GREGG BELL (Tacoma News Tribune) Sunday will showcase a battle of the McCoaches and we are all excited to watch it. Can the Seahawks O-Line continue their success against this top 5 Rams defense? Some key injury updates from Gregg- Will Ernest Jones be back on Sunday? Sundell will miss time, can Oluwatimi be the guy? Can Riq Woolen step up this week if Josh Jobe remains out? :30- Russell Wilson has been benched again. Jaxson Dart is dealing with a concussion, and Jameis Winston has been moved past Russell into the #2 spot. Was he ever a candidate for the Hall of Fame? :35- We are coming off a rough Fact or Fiction week, so Bucky better get this right, or someone is wearing the shirt of shame! :45- It’s time to get Reckless at Breakfast and college football has been quite reckless with their coaching decisions lately. CFB has always stopped players from transferring, but never the coaches and now coaches are hopping all over the place. Do we need to start making coaches sit out a year if they up and leave a school?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Back in resetting. Bitch dud couldn't pick it up.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Here comes Martenko down the right side, suits.
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Off the cross bar uck.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Oh my goodness, what chaos end to end here?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Midway through period one.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Looks back at the near side, Sinery pass in front,
Bartenko point play man, Matt Murray shuts it down.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Man Myers gets most for Winterton stop.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Winter is coming, ranking Rivas for the high slot, hands
it off to Montour.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Right thing blue lines shot off the pots. Oh that
had more.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Much That was a knuckle pucket warren Ski right side
Mantillian from bumped on goal, knocked down save Bartenko. Fantelli
shot off the glove of Matt.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Murray and they score.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Fan Tilly gets by back hand big same by Matt Murray.
Coyle picks up the pucket, help bring it near side,
coil into the circle back to the Hashtargs low slot
shot off the bar. He scores and the Columbus Blue
Jackets take the extra point in the shootout final to one.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Oh. Another shootout loss for the crack And they are
competitive in every single game.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Imagine if they just won.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Half of their overtime games, what good position that they
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Chill headlines though, and we will start with Major League Baseball.
Dan Wilson did not win the American League Manager of
the Year award last night.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
He ended up finishing third.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Stephen Vote and Pat Murphy won the award in their
respective conferences for the or leagues. I should say for
the second consecutive year that's never happened before. Cy Young
Award will be given out tonight. The MVP will be
known on Thursday evening. Will cal Rawley win the award? Columbus?
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I just mentioned it two to one winners over the
Kraken in a shootout last night. The next up for
the Krack and they'll take on Winnipeg Thursday. Al Koniski
will join us at nine to thirty. College Basketball, we
count down the days till the Kobs and the Huskies
meet each other on the hardwood.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
That'll be this Friday night in Pullman.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Meanwhile, the Zags with an impressive early win in the
season ninety to sixty three over ranked Creighton last night.
College football Huskies will host Perdue on Saturday. Cam Cleveland
will join us to talk about it today. And the
brand new college football Playoff rankings came out last night.
No shakeup at the top, but Texas, South Florida.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And Miami are all newly in.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
According to the committee at this point in the season.
But we're going to talk some NFL because it is
a huge week for the Seahawks. They faced the Rams
on Sunday and it's time to chat with our Seahawks insider.
All right, So here we go, hump day, Seahawks Rams.
We were talking at six thirty about this fascinating head
coaching matchup Mike McDonald versus Sean McVeigh. How fascinating does
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a Seahawks insider find this matchup?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, this is where it starts, and there's gonna be
a lot of chess moving and strategizing and showing off
coaching acumen on the field. You're going to see a
lot of probably new things. Both coaches are going to
throw stuff at the other guy that they haven't seen yet.
It would not surprise me if the Seahawks have been
working a little bit each week on this game plan.
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They'll never admit that, but putting in a little play here,
play there, we're gonna use this againt the Rams in
a couple of weeks type of stuff. They want McVeigh
to see things defensively, McDonald wants them to see stuff
that he hasn't seen on film from the Seahawks, and
one of them could be blitzing. We've talked about how
they haven't blitzed as much as they thought they were
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going to as much as McDonald designed him to blitz
this year, mainly because winners put even Warrior haven't played
together a lot. Well. Now they're back and that gives
him a lot more and the options to blitz from
the back and then the question becomes, do they have
to If the front force is as successful as it
has been in pressuring the quarterback, and especially now Matthew Stafford,
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who is a little bit more like Jakobe Brissett than
like Kiler Murray or Lamar Jackson, then the Seahawks will
get He's getting a McDonald basically is getting away without
blitz thing and keeping six and seven in the back
to cover as long as this front four can continue
to gain pressure and affect a quarterback. And to me,
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that's a real key on Sunday. Stafford gets it that quick.
He's preaty veteran at reading pass russ inm blitzes and
avoiding sacks. But can the front four for Seattle affect Stafford,
who's playing on MVP level? Can you affect them like
they've affected most other quarterbacks?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
How about on the other side of that, because the
Rams defenses is right up there with the Seahawks, maybe
even better in a lot of statistical categories, and so
how is the offensive line? Are they going to be
able to continue to be as good as they have
been up to this point against that defense?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Well that's the question, Bucky. Is this for real? I
mean you look at the teams the Seahawks have beaten.
It's the Steelers and the Saints, and the Jaguars, and
the Texans and the Cardinals twice and the Commanders, who
are broken. They haven't beaten the top seven NFC team,
a playoff team, yet they lost to the forty nine
ers we know, at home, and that's the only team
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with even a shot at the playoffs that they've come
even close to being so far. So who are they?
It's the offensive line gonna play at a level that
will compete for NFC West championship. That's with the Rams
and the forty nine ers. And we've been talking about
it forever since the spring. Everything they've done everything, bring
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them in Kubiak, who they start on the offensive line,
bring it, signing Sam Darnold, play action passes, running the
balls offense at everything they've done since the end of
January at the end of last season has been to
beat the Rams in the forty nine ers. And here
you go. It's great, they're seven to two, but they
ain't done nothing yet. Honestly, they've got to beat the
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Rams at forty nine ers to win the division.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
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For complete coverage of your Seattle Seahawks year round at
Thenewstribune dot com. Ernest Jones obviously wants to get on
the field to face his former team, the Rams, and
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Mike McDonald obviously wants him on the field to face
the Rams.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
So how are they going to make that happen?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, I think if Jones has a pulse on his
breathing Sunday morning, he's playing. Yesterday, he said, he posted
on his social media account of video of a rap
video of a guy that was dead and coming back
from the dead. And I had to consult my twenty
two year old son that I wrote about yesterday.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Who exactly that was hip hop insider?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah, he's my hip hop insider compared to me anyway. Yeah,
he Duke Deuce the guy coming up from the dead.
So yeah, that was a strong indication that he's telling
the world I'm playing after missing the game last week
with the knee injury, and of course he's playing, And
of course that was probably part of the calculus last week.
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Let's hold you out see if we can get through
this Arizona game with that. You haven't played, so you'll
be ready for the Rams and he will play on Sunday.
I had no doubt in my.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Mind any other updates. I mean Tory Horton or is Sundale.
Sundale's out right.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yes, he's gonna miss multiple games. According to Mike McDonald,
he's candidate perhaps for injured reserve.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I mean, how concerning is that? I mean, to go
to Olawa Timmy's such a big game. I mean I
would think that it wouldn't rock the boat that you
have to replace your center. I mean, injuries are part
of the game, But I mean, how big of a
drop off are we talking from Sundell to Olawa Timmy?
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When Olawa Timmy at the beginning of the training camp
looked like he was supposed to be the favorite. I mean,
you kept telling us it was going to be Sundell,
but he was supposed to be. He was the guy
that was written in on all the depths, on all
the web sites. I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Oh well, those websites say though, but no, they old
with Timmy was the starting center. The first week of
training camp he got the number one reps. But it
was quickly, Sndell. I mean it didn't take very long
at all. It isn't It does matter because one, you
have to snap the ball to the quarterback cleanly, and
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he didn't do that a couple of times when he
came in. I know, he just came in a cold
and hadn't played all season, and the yes Seahawks are
banking on that being the reason that he messed up
a couple snaps. But more than that, at the center,
of course, he's the traffic cop and all of that,
and that has not been old with Timmy's stay. He's
been good at that. He's very good at mastering protecting
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calls and the knowing the offense, and now he's been
in it for coupanies. It's not so much that it's
don't get beat up the middle on pass rush. I
mean run play pass play. If you have penetration from
the A gap or the B gap, you're done. Back
can't get rid of the ball quickly that it's the
quickest patch of the quarterback right if the nose tackle
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defensive tackle is in on your quarterback, that means he
got there pretty quickly. That means your center failed and
the play will fail at the center fails. Hugh talks
about it all the time. If you have interior pressure
from a defensive tackle up the middle in your air
b get a quarterback, there's not too many options for
him to get the ball to the hot receiver. It's
either going to get a thrown away or a stack
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or worse, a turnover. So that's the problem is not
so much the operation. All the things the center has
to do pre snap and recognize it. Oh, Timmy's been
good at that and they've never had a problem with
him doing that. The physicality of stopping premier defensive tackles,
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that's the issue. And if he was able to do
that better than Cdelli would have been starting back in July,
and he's not. And that's the problems some there.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Do the Rams have the x's and those or the
Jimmies and Joe's to be able to stop Jackson Smith
and Jig because nobody really has been able to do
that so far.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Well, that's a good question. And that's if you're LA
and you're looking at how to beat the Seahawks. That's
where it starts. Can they do what nobody else has
been able to do? And it would start with affecting
the quarterback so that Smith and Jigga can't run as
long as routes as he's been able to a lot
of Smiths and Jigbas catches, Bucky have been later in place,
second and third reads, long breaking outside routes. I keep
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thinking of the Houston fourth and one play when they're
an eighteen yard out route. Those type of plays they
take time, and that takes longer than one point five
seconds for the quarterback to hold the ball. Can the
Rams force the ball out from Sam Donald before Smith
and Jigma is running eighteen yard outs or long crossers
or deep posts, those type of plays that he's been
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so good at. The reason why Donald leaves the league
in yards per passe attempt and the reason why the
yard by far Smith and jigger leads to the league
in yards per reception is that he's able to have
time to get open. In the NFL, if you don't
make the quarterback decide quickly, the receivers are gonna get open.
The rules are made that way, and by and large
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that's what Seattle's offensive line in the play action pass
game has done for Donald, afforded him longer times for
Smith and Jiggby to get open. Can the Rams it
keeps sounding a broken record effecting the quarterback. That's the
name of the game in twenty twenties. Can you make
the quarterback get the ball out before he wants to,
before the receivers have made the routes, before the windows
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become open, before the receivers finally become open, because the
rules will make it that way. That's the key to
every game. But can the Rams do that? And in
the last few years the answer has been yes. No
matter who the quarterback for Seattle is, no matter who
the center for Seattle is, no matter who Aaron Donald's
on a retirement counts, doesn't matter. They have been able
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to beat the offensive line for Seattle. The Rams have
dominated them on the line of scrimmage, which is why
the Seahawks haven't run the division in many years.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Well, I don't know if it's change.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, I don't know if it's pre read or if
it's play calling, or whatever the case may be. But
Darnald and JSN seem to be sharing the same brain.
Like when it requires to get rid of the ball quickly.
It seems like they have the right play to get
him the ball in space, and he's he's unstoppable.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
He has been so far. Yeah, and you're right. It
doesn't matter what the coverage has been. And we've talked
about this. They people teams have shated safeties, bracket coverage,
flat out double teams at times, especially in the red
zone when the spiel gets shorter. Teams have just put
two guys on him, like high school basketball style box
and want or just shadow two dudes on Smith and Jery.
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He still makes catches that way. Yeah, you're right. And
if a quarterback sees that on film and sees it
in practice and does it in the games when the
heat's on, if he's a time and again, that's going
to be his default. He heeds trusting Smith and Jig,
but to be open at all times in all coverage.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
In our last couple of minutes, I want to ask
about their wide receivers because they kind of have two
of them that are elite and Davante Adams and Puka Nikua.
So I would I mean, we don't know about Adams oblique.
I guess there's a chance he might not play this week.
But let's assume they're both going to play. I mean,
who's the other You know, Witherspoon's going to be on
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one side, who's the other guy? Are are we gonna
trust me? Trusting Reek Wooland to cover one of these
two dudes consistently on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
It may be Josh Jones concussion. We'll find out more
this week and then how farlng he isn't the protocol
and if he can respond to increased activity, and I've
talked about that the other day, and if not, it
will be Reek Woollen just had two really good games.
I wrote about that yesterday for the News Tribune about
how the last two weeks he's really been good on
playing the ball in the air. A couple plays in Arizona,
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including against Trey McBride in the end zone. I mean McBride.
Nobody could stop McBride. On Sunday he had nine catches
one hundred and twenty six yards in a touch down.
And there's a Reek Wollan in the third quarter jumping
with the tight end and basically two hands slammed, dunking
the ball back toward the quarterback in the end zone
for a pass breakup. Can he do that? At Devonte
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Adams have something of a career resurgence under McVeigh. As
he often does receivers, he makes them look pretty good.
And yes, that will probably be where the ball goes.
Teams again schematically go away from Devin Witherspoon, and so
I would expect that's where the ball goes often every
time they play, though it's guys like Higbee and Kyron
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Williams and some running back we never heard of in
the past. Game right screen passes and third down plays
to the tight end. This team goes a lot of
two and even three tight ends. Remember we talked about
how much Seattle was going two and three tight ends
earlier this season, while the Rams are doing it even
more than the Seahawks lately. Thirteen personnel with three tight
ends and they throw out of it. So while the
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wide receivers get the gether tension and the cool op
rightly so gets a huge amount of tension, McVeigh kills
the Seahawks with screens and throws the tight ends. And
you can bet the Seahawks are working a lot on
that because they've had issues catching guys catch excuse me,
tackles after the catch on those type of plays all
season and mcvay's goally use a ton of them someday.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Well, I don't know if it's a Mom's chicken super
recipe but or not. But you sounded terrible three days ago.
You sounded like you were better yesterday, and now it
sounds like you're taking like a half step back today.
What's going on? Are you just not following mom's orders?
What's going on here?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Thanks for tracking myself because I haven't slept in three nights.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Oh no, the.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Cough and yeah, oh she's awakened. I've been sleeping on
the couch and it's a head cold. But and I'm
fine during the day when I'm standing up right now,
So as I'm going to sleep, everything is in my
head and thrown.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I've heard of you put onions in your in some
socks sleep with that.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Remedy.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Wow, never, honestly, never thought of that. I don't know
why I never thought of that. It might have a
lot of good vics on the feet.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
There's a lot of things that happened through the feet.
That's that's uh.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I guess. So you're about in the wood. You put
tree stap on your feet to tell me some of
these other I'll take any remedy At this point, I'm.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Telling you do the onions, just cut slightly. You don't
put like the round. You got to cut it into
a slice and then put it on your feet and
put a sock over it.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I might be confusing this with another remedy, but I
also think if you wear garlic around your neck.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That keeps vampires. That's right. I was confusing those two.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Yeah, yeah, because I was like, oh, I've got a
garlics in my backpack. If Gregg on the way home,
well I feel better.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Do you know how touch the hamlet. We're spending a
part of this segment talking about home remedies.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Wow, we got to get your better. We got a
round table tomorrow. We need you on your A game,
so we got to get you better.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah, you might get a B minus game to wear
on me. Hopwise, I'm hoping to be closer to B plus.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I'll be there all right, We'll feel better.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
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Fiction at seven thirty five, and somebody we know very
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well has been benched again. Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJRFM. All right, well, Phil Collins may have been
ahead of this, but Jamis Winston's gonna start for the
Giants this weekend and not Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
And so he's been benched again.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Not just that he's or is the correct way to
describe it. He's been benched, further rebnched, because I mean,
it was kind of strange that they signed two veteran
quarterbacks in the offseason to begin with. That was already
strange from what I understand, they did try to trade
Jamis Winston at the trading deadline, and there weren't any takers.
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There haven't been all season long for Jamis Winston, and
so instead like, well, we've got him, and we've got
a new head coach, and maybe the head coach just
who works with the quarterbacks is just like, well, Winston's
better than Wilson.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I don't care how much money we're paying, but.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
At this stage in their careers, he's better than Russell.
So Mike Kaffka is making the decision to go with
Jameis Winston this weekend and not Russell Wilson. He is
now the third stringer of the New York Giants that's
got to hurt to not even good enough to be
the backup. I mean, he's the one that they brought
in when Jackson got hurt, and then he didn't show
that any signs of, hey, you're going to be our
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guy this next.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Week, because well they blew a lead with him out there.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Yeah, so you didn't. You didn't earn even the backup spot.
So now your third string quarterback. It's uh, it's gotta
be a tough pill to swallow. You could kind of
see it on his face and his postgame interview of
just like man, this is not enjoyable. Hmmm, I'm not
having as much fun playing this game anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Yeah, there's not as many people around me telling me
how great I am anymore, which is weird.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
And I also heard a conversation this morning and I
just thought it was so misguided, and it was about
Russell Wilson's Hall of Fame status and the argument that
was being made by the host, and all three of
the hosts said that he should be a Hall of Famer.
I don't think that we have that unanimous feeling here
in Seattle. I don't think he's a Hall of Famer.
And the comment that was made about Russell was he
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couldn't have been qualified, he couldn't have been a Hall
of Famer, and then just because he played poorly late
in his career, you can have it taken away. I
don't think anyone should have ever designated him as a
Hall of Famer. I think when he went to Denver
there was a feeling that he is definitely on his path,
and no one envisioned that he wasn't going to add
to his resume to some degree. But when his resume
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of good quarterback play ended the year before he left Seattle.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
And you didn't add to that.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Everybody just felt that he was tracking toward it, and
he had some good football left in him to add
to that resume that would push him over the top.
But he didn't add anything to it after he left Seattle.
So I don't think that this is taking the Hall
of Fame away from him. I don't think he ever
got across the threshold with it.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Yeah, well, I mean I think to some degree he
probably was one yard away from getting across it. You
go back to back, and then I just remember when
he was playing. When he was playing, well, it seemed
like there was They were always popping up these stats
that he's a first to do this than the first
to do that. Now, a lot of stats change, and
the game's changed, most certainly in favor of quarterback stats,
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and so I take some of those with a grain
of salt. But he definitely was on the trajectory. And
yet you're right it was before he left here that
it started changing. I think there's a skewing of our
opinions around here. Having covered him where it's like he
was very likable at first, in my opinion, Dorothy Russ
was very likable. Yeah, and then how it turned. And
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then you couple that with him not playing real good football.
It's it took a bigger hit than even his football says.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Yeah, I definitely think if we win that second Super Bowl,
that path gets a lot better for him.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
But it hads to he never think it finalizes.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I mean there are guys that have won multiple Super
Bowls that did not make it to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
No, but it just is a smoother path. And then yeah,
but he didn't fulfill it. All right, let's play some
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Speaker 4 (23:12):
R f M.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Well, we have not been picking like Hall of famers
as of late. We certainly haven't added to our resume.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
After that five and oh week, we had a couple
of week we started to spink.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, like rotten garbage.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I mean, I'm about ready to crack out the shirt
of shame again. It was effective once upon a time.
All right, Bucky, let's get it right.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Where are you going? If I lose two this week,
I'll put the shirt of shame on? Wow? Oh yeah,
I think that's the reason why I said that. Yeah,
that's good one.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
But all right, I'm gonna go with one that you
probably won't like. But it's fine. I uh, I'm gonna
take it. I'm going to take a road road favorite again.
But it is the Niners. They just got to watch
ears on the Cardinals, and while they're they're just not
very good. I mean, I think that they have some pieces,
and yet it just feels like it's in shambles to
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some degree.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
There.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
The Niners want to rebound. It's a division foe. They're
gonna be.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Up for it.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Coming off of a loss against the Rams. They're only
giving two points. So give me the Niners minus two
at Arizona.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
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coming up next on our program, we'll dip a little
bit into that coaching controversy that's happening in college football.
It's reckless at breakfast time on Kjar, of course, so
we'll preview a little bit the Purdue game as well.
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So former tight end Camp Cleveland choices every Wednesday at
eight o'clock.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
He'll do it again this week. He'll have hell to pay.
See this.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Two fists for you.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
See this.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I'm laving my fist. But he's truly oh oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
He's been scared a long time of Ashley and I's fists.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Oh fury.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Let's get a little reckless in breakfast And I do
want to talk college football. I do want to talk
college football coaching because this is kind of a strange
way to get there. Again, we're dealing with this new
world of college football and it just keeps presenting challenges,
some that I saw coming and some that I don't
think there was any way that we could see coming.
And this college football coaching craziness is something that I
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did not see coming. I would have thought that had
you've been having to pay players finally both boosters and
now it's starting to come out of the coffers of
the actual athletic programs and universities, that you would have
really tried to hold on to your coaches and not
blown money trying to spend millions on eye outs. But
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obviously that's not the phase that we're in in this process.
We don't care. Fifty four million dollars, no big deal.
Adidas will take care of that. No big problem there.
And so it's it's a bit crazy right now, and
I wonder if it'll get this crazy. And it is
reckless at breakfast time, so I'm allowed to get a
little reckless.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I always felt.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
That when the transfer portal thing started to happen and
there was no punishment for transferring, you didn't have to
sit out a year, I thought that was going to
be a big problem. I do think that it is
a problem. I think it's become a problem for coaches.
I think it's been really difficult to manage, and maybe
it's going to ultimately ultimately damage coaches. So desperately at
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this level that they're not going to want to do
it anymore. I mean, we've already seen Nick Saban say
I don't want to do this. I've accomplished enough I
want to do and you lost Nick Saban out of
the college football world.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
So maybe we haven't seen.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
The full extent of the damage of players not being
having to sit out a year if they were willing
to transfer. And I've always been stern about wondering if
it's worth transferring, then it's worth sitting out.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
For for a year.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
That's how I've kind of always felt about it, unless
you've gotten your degree, and then I kind of like
the idea that you can become a free agent at
that point. But I want to talk about coaches because
I always had a problem if you're keeping players from jumping,
but you're not keeping coaches from jumping who are under
long term deals. And for those that said coaches get
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to move, why would you make players sit out a year.
I've always felt that a coach under multiple years left
on his contract should have to sit out a year
in order to transfer. And so maybe we're heading down
this path. Maybe that's where we're going with this maybe
this is what needs to be instituted for the benefit
of both players, coaches, fan bases, boosters, everyone involved. I mean,
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somebody's going to give a freshman recruit a million dollars
to come to Washington and then by a side more year,
that person who invested a million dollars in that eighteen
year old finds out that the head coach is leaving
now all of a sudden, that investment that that guy,
because that guy didn't make an investment in making that
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eighteen year old financially wealthy. That booster made an investment
in making himself happy. That Washington's going to win a
national championship in part because of my contribution.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
To the program. That's why he's doing it.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
He's not doing it because he has such a soft
spot in his heart for that seventeen year old from Mobile,
Alabama that he really wants him to have a real
good shot at life. No, he's doing it so that
Washington can win football games. And if he loses that
player and that investment because the coach, who he didn't
bother to check it whether or not he was happy
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or that coach told him that, oh I'm here forever,
and that coach can just leave willy nilly whenever he wants. Well,
now you're starting to a anger the people that are
pouring money into your program, and that to me is unsustainable.
So I think, and I know, this would never get passed.
That's why it's reckless at breakfast. Maybe this is leading
down the path where players can become free agents. It's
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not affecting the product. The product looks great, and it's
giving us more to monitor and be excited about in
the off season. It's crazy free agency, there's no question
about it. But maybe you could curb some of that
if the coaches didn't have the same flexibility. They're the
ones making millions of dollars a year guaranteed, all right,
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So maybe it is time to say to reverse it.
Once upon a time, players had to sit out a
year before they transfer coaches. If you have multiple years
left on your deal, unless you get fired like Brian Kelly,
you can't be contacted and you can't leave, And if
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you want to leave, we will let you leave. When
going to like shackle you to a radiator in the
basement over at Montlake. If you want to leave, you
can leave, but you got to sit out a here
with no pay, and that program that you're going to
has to use an interim head coach for one year,
and then the program that you're leaving they can start
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their process of finding somebody new, and you have to
wait unpaid for a year at the college loft. You
can get a job as a TV analyst if you want,
but you can't get paid by another program if you've
got multiple years left on his deal.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Maybe it flips.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Maybe players can become free agency free agents every offseason,
but coaches have to suffer the same penalties that players
had to forever that if you are under multiple years
on the deal, you have to sit out a year
before you go to the next program that is wooing you.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
That's what I propose, and reckless at breakfast.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Yeah, you're right in saying there's no way they probably
would ever go there, And yet I like the idea.
I think it's not far enough. I just don't understand
how you haven't recognized that it's unsustainable the way in
which it is. For a larger part what you just said,
boosters are going to get pissed if they're throwing millions
of dollars at their alumni, their program that they love,
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and the coach is just like, well, this looks better
for me over there, And now all of a sudden,
the kid that you just gave a million dollars to
is heading with him somewhere, or the entire team is
in a shake up mode. So now you're back to
rebuilding and you have a couple of years before you're
relevant again. All of that kind of stuff I think
is going to be irritating to those that are given money.
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I just don't understand how you can't if it is
professional football, which it is now, you're paying the players
and the coaches are making big time money. Just youve
got a contract, and if you want to get out
of it, okay, whichever side right. I mean, if an
NFL coach sucks and he's on a contract, then they
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fire him and he's owed whatever is left. That's why
they're contracts. They don't sign them to big long ones
until you've proven were we think this dude is our
full time answer for the next five years or whatever
it is. And same thing goes with players that they
they do it and then they don't have these guarantees.
I just don't understand how you don't have contracts. I
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mean to me, it's.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Probably as the next phase and it all.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, but when coaches can just say I have a
contract and I don't care.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I'm gonna if it were to ply, I'd wipe my
butt with it.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Right.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
When they act that way, then yeah, how can you
control the chaos?
Speaker 6 (33:32):
And especially if they're making so much money that they
don't really care, right they're like, Okay, that's fine, I'll
do this. I'm you know, I don't. I don't, I
don't take this contract seriously. Then yeah, that is a problem.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
So it's basically putting consequences on if you want to
run away from the contract, the agreement that you had
with this university.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
If it's worth it for you to, but you have.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
To there's got to be some consequence, yeah, because otherwise
the consequences for them just they just trickle downhill. They
just trickle to the team, the players, and then the players,
some of them are up and down and they don't
know who's coming in and so I want to follow him,
or I just want to go somewhere else, period, And
next thing, you know, I mean, really, then it's all
the way down to the fans and obviously the boosters
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are part of that. It is unsustainable the way in
which they're doing right now, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah, you can't just jump to another college now. If
you can jump to the NFL, there's none you can
do about it. Right if you jump to another college program,
you can't. You can't coach for another year and you
can't make another dollar until another year.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
We did have a text that, Yeah, we did have
a texture that brought up a good point though that
if like let's say Jedfish were to leave you Dub
and then you Dub goes and wants to coach from
somewhere else, Well, now that coach would then have to
sit out a year as well. So then sure, yeah,
so then the program, though that kind of got scorned
by the coach, would still be in trouble because they
wouldn't have a coach for a year.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Well, you could hire somebody that is available. Yeah, it's
just a.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, Well you could hire somebody with one left on
their deal or their contract is expiring, or whatever the
case may be. So if somebody, if Jedfish left, he
has to sit out a year, but you get to
go out and find the best possible replacement for him,
you don't have to take somebody under contract.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Right, you know you don't have to.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
I'm just saying it could that they brought up a
good point that could compose another problem.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
But I don't know.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
I like the idea personally.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Well, I just think that there's a lot of money
being invested in this, and I can't imagine that somebody
that is sitting there saying, wait a minute, a minute.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I gave five hundred thousand dollars for that seventeen year old.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
He stayed a year because the coach left, and the
coach promised me that he wasn't going anywhere. And now
the investment that I made to that player he now
plays for Oregon, I made. I got five hundred thousand
dollars to come to Washington and he can transfer to Oregon.
And now I got to watch him try to beat US. YEP,
no way, no chance.
Back in resetting. Bitch dud couldn't pick it up.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Here comes Martenko down the right side, suits.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Off the cross bar uck.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Oh my goodness, what chaos end to end here?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Midway through period one.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Looks back at the near side, Sinery pass in front,
Bartenko point play man, Matt Murray shuts it down.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Man Myers gets most for Winterton stop.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Winter is coming, ranking Rivas for the high slot, hands
it off to Montour.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Right thing blue lines shot off the pots. Oh that
had more.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Much That was a knuckle pucket warren Ski right side
Mantillian from bumped on goal, knocked down save Bartenko. Fantelli
shot off the glove of Matt.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Murray and they score.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Fan Tilly gets by back hand big same by Matt Murray.
Coyle picks up the pucket, help bring it near side,
coil into the circle back to the Hashtargs low slot
shot off the bar. He scores and the Columbus Blue
Jackets take the extra point in the shootout final to one.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Oh. Another shootout loss for the crack And they are
competitive in every single game.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Imagine if they just won.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
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Chill headlines though, and we will start with Major League Baseball.
Dan Wilson did not win the American League Manager of
the Year award last night.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
He ended up finishing third.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Stephen Vote and Pat Murphy won the award in their
respective conferences for the or leagues. I should say for
the second consecutive year that's never happened before. Cy Young
Award will be given out tonight. The MVP will be
known on Thursday evening. Will cal Rawley win the award? Columbus?
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I just mentioned it two to one winners over the
Kraken in a shootout last night. The next up for
the Krack and they'll take on Winnipeg Thursday. Al Koniski
will join us at nine to thirty. College Basketball, we
count down the days till the Kobs and the Huskies
meet each other on the hardwood.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
That'll be this Friday night in Pullman.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Meanwhile, the Zags with an impressive early win in the
season ninety to sixty three over ranked Creighton last night.
College football Huskies will host Perdue on Saturday. Cam Cleveland
will join us to talk about it today. And the
brand new college football Playoff rankings came out last night.
No shakeup at the top, but Texas, South Florida.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And Miami are all newly in.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
According to the committee at this point in the season.
But we're going to talk some NFL because it is
a huge week for the Seahawks. They faced the Rams
on Sunday and it's time to chat with our Seahawks insider.
All right, So here we go, hump day, Seahawks Rams.
We were talking at six thirty about this fascinating head
coaching matchup Mike McDonald versus Sean McVeigh. How fascinating does
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a Seahawks insider find this matchup?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, this is where it starts, and there's gonna be
a lot of chess moving and strategizing and showing off
coaching acumen on the field. You're going to see a
lot of probably new things. Both coaches are going to
throw stuff at the other guy that they haven't seen yet.
It would not surprise me if the Seahawks have been
working a little bit each week on this game plan.
(04:01):
They'll never admit that, but putting in a little play here,
play there, we're gonna use this againt the Rams in
a couple of weeks type of stuff. They want McVeigh
to see things defensively, McDonald wants them to see stuff
that he hasn't seen on film from the Seahawks, and
one of them could be blitzing. We've talked about how
they haven't blitzed as much as they thought they were
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going to as much as McDonald designed him to blitz
this year, mainly because winners put even Warrior haven't played
together a lot. Well. Now they're back and that gives
him a lot more and the options to blitz from
the back and then the question becomes, do they have
to If the front force is as successful as it
has been in pressuring the quarterback, and especially now Matthew Stafford,
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who is a little bit more like Jakobe Brissett than
like Kiler Murray or Lamar Jackson, then the Seahawks will
get He's getting a McDonald basically is getting away without
blitz thing and keeping six and seven in the back
to cover as long as this front four can continue
to gain pressure and affect a quarterback. And to me,
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that's a real key on Sunday. Stafford gets it that quick.
He's preaty veteran at reading pass russ inm blitzes and
avoiding sacks. But can the front four for Seattle affect Stafford,
who's playing on MVP level? Can you affect them like
they've affected most other quarterbacks?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
How about on the other side of that, because the
Rams defenses is right up there with the Seahawks, maybe
even better in a lot of statistical categories, and so
how is the offensive line? Are they going to be
able to continue to be as good as they have
been up to this point against that defense?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Well that's the question, Bucky. Is this for real? I
mean you look at the teams the Seahawks have beaten.
It's the Steelers and the Saints, and the Jaguars, and
the Texans and the Cardinals twice and the Commanders, who
are broken. They haven't beaten the top seven NFC team,
a playoff team, yet they lost to the forty nine
ers we know, at home, and that's the only team
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with even a shot at the playoffs that they've come
even close to being so far. So who are they?
It's the offensive line gonna play at a level that
will compete for NFC West championship. That's with the Rams
and the forty nine ers. And we've been talking about
it forever since the spring. Everything they've done everything, bring
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them in Kubiak, who they start on the offensive line,
bring it, signing Sam Darnold, play action passes, running the
balls offense at everything they've done since the end of
January at the end of last season has been to
beat the Rams in the forty nine ers. And here
you go. It's great, they're seven to two, but they
ain't done nothing yet. Honestly, they've got to beat the
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Rams at forty nine ers to win the division.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
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Thenewstribune dot com. Ernest Jones obviously wants to get on
the field to face his former team, the Rams, and
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Mike McDonald obviously wants him on the field to face
the Rams.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
So how are they going to make that happen?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, I think if Jones has a pulse on his
breathing Sunday morning, he's playing. Yesterday, he said, he posted
on his social media account of video of a rap
video of a guy that was dead and coming back
from the dead. And I had to consult my twenty
two year old son that I wrote about yesterday.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Who exactly that was hip hop insider?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah, he's my hip hop insider compared to me anyway. Yeah,
he Duke Deuce the guy coming up from the dead.
So yeah, that was a strong indication that he's telling
the world I'm playing after missing the game last week
with the knee injury, and of course he's playing, And
of course that was probably part of the calculus last week.
(08:06):
Let's hold you out see if we can get through
this Arizona game with that. You haven't played, so you'll
be ready for the Rams and he will play on Sunday.
I had no doubt in my.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Mind any other updates. I mean Tory Horton or is Sundale.
Sundale's out right.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yes, he's gonna miss multiple games. According to Mike McDonald,
he's candidate perhaps for injured reserve.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I mean, how concerning is that? I mean, to go
to Olawa Timmy's such a big game. I mean I
would think that it wouldn't rock the boat that you
have to replace your center. I mean, injuries are part
of the game, But I mean, how big of a
drop off are we talking from Sundell to Olawa Timmy?
(08:48):
When Olawa Timmy at the beginning of the training camp
looked like he was supposed to be the favorite. I mean,
you kept telling us it was going to be Sundell,
but he was supposed to be. He was the guy
that was written in on all the depths, on all
the web sites. I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Oh well, those websites say though, but no, they old
with Timmy was the starting center. The first week of
training camp he got the number one reps. But it
was quickly, Sndell. I mean it didn't take very long
at all. It isn't It does matter because one, you
have to snap the ball to the quarterback cleanly, and
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he didn't do that a couple of times when he
came in. I know, he just came in a cold
and hadn't played all season, and the yes Seahawks are
banking on that being the reason that he messed up
a couple snaps. But more than that, at the center,
of course, he's the traffic cop and all of that,
and that has not been old with Timmy's stay. He's
been good at that. He's very good at mastering protecting
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calls and the knowing the offense, and now he's been
in it for coupanies. It's not so much that it's
don't get beat up the middle on pass rush. I
mean run play pass play. If you have penetration from
the A gap or the B gap, you're done. Back
can't get rid of the ball quickly that it's the
quickest patch of the quarterback right if the nose tackle
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defensive tackle is in on your quarterback, that means he
got there pretty quickly. That means your center failed and
the play will fail at the center fails. Hugh talks
about it all the time. If you have interior pressure
from a defensive tackle up the middle in your air
b get a quarterback, there's not too many options for
him to get the ball to the hot receiver. It's
either going to get a thrown away or a stack
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or worse, a turnover. So that's the problem is not
so much the operation. All the things the center has
to do pre snap and recognize it. Oh, Timmy's been
good at that and they've never had a problem with
him doing that. The physicality of stopping premier defensive tackles,
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that's the issue. And if he was able to do
that better than Cdelli would have been starting back in July,
and he's not. And that's the problems some there.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Do the Rams have the x's and those or the
Jimmies and Joe's to be able to stop Jackson Smith
and Jig because nobody really has been able to do
that so far.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Well, that's a good question. And that's if you're LA
and you're looking at how to beat the Seahawks. That's
where it starts. Can they do what nobody else has
been able to do? And it would start with affecting
the quarterback so that Smith and Jigga can't run as
long as routes as he's been able to a lot
of Smiths and Jigbas catches, Bucky have been later in place,
second and third reads, long breaking outside routes. I keep
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thinking of the Houston fourth and one play when they're
an eighteen yard out route. Those type of plays they
take time, and that takes longer than one point five
seconds for the quarterback to hold the ball. Can the
Rams force the ball out from Sam Donald before Smith
and Jigma is running eighteen yard outs or long crossers
or deep posts, those type of plays that he's been
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so good at. The reason why Donald leaves the league
in yards per passe attempt and the reason why the
yard by far Smith and jigger leads to the league
in yards per reception is that he's able to have
time to get open. In the NFL, if you don't
make the quarterback decide quickly, the receivers are gonna get open.
The rules are made that way, and by and large
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that's what Seattle's offensive line in the play action pass
game has done for Donald, afforded him longer times for
Smith and Jiggby to get open. Can the Rams it
keeps sounding a broken record effecting the quarterback. That's the
name of the game in twenty twenties. Can you make
the quarterback get the ball out before he wants to,
before the receivers have made the routes, before the windows
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become open, before the receivers finally become open, because the
rules will make it that way. That's the key to
every game. But can the Rams do that? And in
the last few years the answer has been yes. No
matter who the quarterback for Seattle is, no matter who
the center for Seattle is, no matter who Aaron Donald's
on a retirement counts, doesn't matter. They have been able
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to beat the offensive line for Seattle. The Rams have
dominated them on the line of scrimmage, which is why
the Seahawks haven't run the division in many years.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Well, I don't know if it's change.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, I don't know if it's pre read or if
it's play calling, or whatever the case may be. But
Darnald and JSN seem to be sharing the same brain.
Like when it requires to get rid of the ball quickly.
It seems like they have the right play to get
him the ball in space, and he's he's unstoppable.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
He has been so far. Yeah, and you're right. It
doesn't matter what the coverage has been. And we've talked
about this. They people teams have shated safeties, bracket coverage,
flat out double teams at times, especially in the red
zone when the spiel gets shorter. Teams have just put
two guys on him, like high school basketball style box
and want or just shadow two dudes on Smith and Jery.
(13:44):
He still makes catches that way. Yeah, you're right. And
if a quarterback sees that on film and sees it
in practice and does it in the games when the
heat's on, if he's a time and again, that's going
to be his default. He heeds trusting Smith and Jig,
but to be open at all times in all coverage.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
In our last couple of minutes, I want to ask
about their wide receivers because they kind of have two
of them that are elite and Davante Adams and Puka Nikua.
So I would I mean, we don't know about Adams oblique.
I guess there's a chance he might not play this week.
But let's assume they're both going to play. I mean,
who's the other You know, Witherspoon's going to be on
(14:22):
one side, who's the other guy? Are are we gonna
trust me? Trusting Reek Wooland to cover one of these
two dudes consistently on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
It may be Josh Jones concussion. We'll find out more
this week and then how farlng he isn't the protocol
and if he can respond to increased activity, and I've
talked about that the other day, and if not, it
will be Reek Woollen just had two really good games.
I wrote about that yesterday for the News Tribune about
how the last two weeks he's really been good on
playing the ball in the air. A couple plays in Arizona,
(14:52):
including against Trey McBride in the end zone. I mean McBride.
Nobody could stop McBride. On Sunday he had nine catches
one hundred and twenty six yards in a touch down.
And there's a Reek Wollan in the third quarter jumping
with the tight end and basically two hands slammed, dunking
the ball back toward the quarterback in the end zone
for a pass breakup. Can he do that? At Devonte
(15:13):
Adams have something of a career resurgence under McVeigh. As
he often does receivers, he makes them look pretty good.
And yes, that will probably be where the ball goes.
Teams again schematically go away from Devin Witherspoon, and so
I would expect that's where the ball goes often every
time they play, though it's guys like Higbee and Kyron
(15:36):
Williams and some running back we never heard of in
the past. Game right screen passes and third down plays
to the tight end. This team goes a lot of
two and even three tight ends. Remember we talked about
how much Seattle was going two and three tight ends
earlier this season, while the Rams are doing it even
more than the Seahawks lately. Thirteen personnel with three tight
ends and they throw out of it. So while the
(15:59):
wide receivers get the gether tension and the cool op
rightly so gets a huge amount of tension, McVeigh kills
the Seahawks with screens and throws the tight ends. And
you can bet the Seahawks are working a lot on
that because they've had issues catching guys catch excuse me,
tackles after the catch on those type of plays all
season and mcvay's goally use a ton of them someday.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Well, I don't know if it's a Mom's chicken super
recipe but or not. But you sounded terrible three days ago.
You sounded like you were better yesterday, and now it
sounds like you're taking like a half step back today.
What's going on? Are you just not following mom's orders?
What's going on here?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Thanks for tracking myself because I haven't slept in three nights.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Oh no, the.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Cough and yeah, oh she's awakened. I've been sleeping on
the couch and it's a head cold. But and I'm
fine during the day when I'm standing up right now,
So as I'm going to sleep, everything is in my
head and thrown.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
I've heard of you put onions in your in some
socks sleep with that.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Remedy.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Wow, never, honestly, never thought of that. I don't know
why I never thought of that. It might have a
lot of good vics on the feet.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
There's a lot of things that happened through the feet.
That's that's uh.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I guess. So you're about in the wood. You put
tree stap on your feet to tell me some of
these other I'll take any remedy At this point, I'm.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Telling you do the onions, just cut slightly. You don't
put like the round. You got to cut it into
a slice and then put it on your feet and
put a sock over it.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I might be confusing this with another remedy, but I
also think if you wear garlic around your neck.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That keeps vampires. That's right. I was confusing those two.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Yeah, yeah, because I was like, oh, I've got a
garlics in my backpack. If Gregg on the way home,
well I feel better.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Do you know how touch the hamlet. We're spending a
part of this segment talking about home remedies.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Wow, we got to get your better. We got a
round table tomorrow. We need you on your A game,
so we got to get you better.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah, you might get a B minus game to wear
on me. Hopwise, I'm hoping to be closer to B plus.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I'll be there all right, We'll feel better.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
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well has been benched again. Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJRFM. All right, well, Phil Collins may have been
ahead of this, but Jamis Winston's gonna start for the
Giants this weekend and not Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
And so he's been benched again.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Not just that he's or is the correct way to
describe it. He's been benched, further rebnched, because I mean,
it was kind of strange that they signed two veteran
quarterbacks in the offseason to begin with. That was already
strange from what I understand, they did try to trade
Jamis Winston at the trading deadline, and there weren't any takers.
(19:33):
There haven't been all season long for Jamis Winston, and
so instead like, well, we've got him, and we've got
a new head coach, and maybe the head coach just
who works with the quarterbacks is just like, well, Winston's
better than Wilson.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I don't care how much money we're paying, but.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
At this stage in their careers, he's better than Russell.
So Mike Kaffka is making the decision to go with
Jameis Winston this weekend and not Russell Wilson. He is
now the third stringer of the New York Giants that's
got to hurt to not even good enough to be
the backup. I mean, he's the one that they brought
in when Jackson got hurt, and then he didn't show
that any signs of, hey, you're going to be our
(20:09):
guy this next.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Week, because well they blew a lead with him out there.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Yeah, so you didn't. You didn't earn even the backup spot.
So now your third string quarterback. It's uh, it's gotta
be a tough pill to swallow. You could kind of
see it on his face and his postgame interview of
just like man, this is not enjoyable. Hmmm, I'm not
having as much fun playing this game anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Yeah, there's not as many people around me telling me
how great I am anymore, which is weird.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
And I also heard a conversation this morning and I
just thought it was so misguided, and it was about
Russell Wilson's Hall of Fame status and the argument that
was being made by the host, and all three of
the hosts said that he should be a Hall of Famer.
I don't think that we have that unanimous feeling here
in Seattle. I don't think he's a Hall of Famer.
And the comment that was made about Russell was he
(20:55):
couldn't have been qualified, he couldn't have been a Hall
of Famer, and then just because he played poorly late
in his career, you can have it taken away. I
don't think anyone should have ever designated him as a
Hall of Famer. I think when he went to Denver
there was a feeling that he is definitely on his path,
and no one envisioned that he wasn't going to add
to his resume to some degree. But when his resume
(21:17):
of good quarterback play ended the year before he left Seattle.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
And you didn't add to that.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Everybody just felt that he was tracking toward it, and
he had some good football left in him to add
to that resume that would push him over the top.
But he didn't add anything to it after he left Seattle.
So I don't think that this is taking the Hall
of Fame away from him. I don't think he ever
got across the threshold with it.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Yeah, well, I mean I think to some degree he
probably was one yard away from getting across it. You
go back to back, and then I just remember when
he was playing. When he was playing, well, it seemed
like there was They were always popping up these stats
that he's a first to do this than the first
to do that. Now, a lot of stats change, and
the game's changed, most certainly in favor of quarterback stats,
(22:06):
and so I take some of those with a grain
of salt. But he definitely was on the trajectory. And
yet you're right it was before he left here that
it started changing. I think there's a skewing of our
opinions around here. Having covered him where it's like he
was very likable at first, in my opinion, Dorothy Russ
was very likable. Yeah, and then how it turned. And
(22:27):
then you couple that with him not playing real good football.
It's it took a bigger hit than even his football says.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Yeah, I definitely think if we win that second Super Bowl,
that path gets a lot better for him.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
But it hads to he never think it finalizes.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I mean there are guys that have won multiple Super
Bowls that did not make it to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
No, but it just is a smoother path. And then yeah,
but he didn't fulfill it. All right, let's play some
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Speaker 4 (23:12):
R f M.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Well, we have not been picking like Hall of famers
as of late. We certainly haven't added to our resume.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
After that five and oh week, we had a couple
of week we started to spink.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, like rotten garbage.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I mean, I'm about ready to crack out the shirt
of shame again. It was effective once upon a time.
All right, Bucky, let's get it right.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Where are you going? If I lose two this week,
I'll put the shirt of shame on? Wow? Oh yeah,
I think that's the reason why I said that. Yeah,
that's good one.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
But all right, I'm gonna go with one that you
probably won't like. But it's fine. I uh, I'm gonna
take it. I'm going to take a road road favorite again.
But it is the Niners. They just got to watch
ears on the Cardinals, and while they're they're just not
very good. I mean, I think that they have some pieces,
and yet it just feels like it's in shambles to
(24:05):
some degree.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
There.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
The Niners want to rebound. It's a division foe. They're
gonna be.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Up for it.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Coming off of a loss against the Rams. They're only
giving two points. So give me the Niners minus two
at Arizona.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
All right, San Francisco giving two points to the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
They'll play that game in Glendale.
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coming up next on our program, we'll dip a little
bit into that coaching controversy that's happening in college football.
It's reckless at breakfast time on Kjar, of course, so
we'll preview a little bit the Purdue game as well.
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So former tight end Camp Cleveland choices every Wednesday at
eight o'clock.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
He'll do it again this week. He'll have hell to pay.
See this.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
Two fists for you.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
See this.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I'm laving my fist. But he's truly oh oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
He's been scared a long time of Ashley and I's fists.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Oh fury.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Let's get a little reckless in breakfast And I do
want to talk college football. I do want to talk
college football coaching because this is kind of a strange
way to get there. Again, we're dealing with this new
world of college football and it just keeps presenting challenges,
some that I saw coming and some that I don't
think there was any way that we could see coming.
And this college football coaching craziness is something that I
(26:38):
did not see coming. I would have thought that had
you've been having to pay players finally both boosters and
now it's starting to come out of the coffers of
the actual athletic programs and universities, that you would have
really tried to hold on to your coaches and not
blown money trying to spend millions on eye outs. But
(27:01):
obviously that's not the phase that we're in in this process.
We don't care. Fifty four million dollars, no big deal.
Adidas will take care of that. No big problem there.
And so it's it's a bit crazy right now, and
I wonder if it'll get this crazy. And it is
reckless at breakfast time, so I'm allowed to get a
little reckless.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I always felt.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
That when the transfer portal thing started to happen and
there was no punishment for transferring, you didn't have to
sit out a year, I thought that was going to
be a big problem. I do think that it is
a problem. I think it's become a problem for coaches.
I think it's been really difficult to manage, and maybe
it's going to ultimately ultimately damage coaches. So desperately at
(27:41):
this level that they're not going to want to do
it anymore. I mean, we've already seen Nick Saban say
I don't want to do this. I've accomplished enough I
want to do and you lost Nick Saban out of
the college football world.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
So maybe we haven't seen.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
The full extent of the damage of players not being
having to sit out a year if they were willing
to transfer. And I've always been stern about wondering if
it's worth transferring, then it's worth sitting out.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
For for a year.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
That's how I've kind of always felt about it, unless
you've gotten your degree, and then I kind of like
the idea that you can become a free agent at
that point. But I want to talk about coaches because
I always had a problem if you're keeping players from jumping,
but you're not keeping coaches from jumping who are under
long term deals. And for those that said coaches get
(28:28):
to move, why would you make players sit out a year.
I've always felt that a coach under multiple years left
on his contract should have to sit out a year
in order to transfer. And so maybe we're heading down
this path. Maybe that's where we're going with this maybe
this is what needs to be instituted for the benefit
of both players, coaches, fan bases, boosters, everyone involved. I mean,
(28:52):
somebody's going to give a freshman recruit a million dollars
to come to Washington and then by a side more year,
that person who invested a million dollars in that eighteen
year old finds out that the head coach is leaving
now all of a sudden, that investment that that guy,
because that guy didn't make an investment in making that
(29:13):
eighteen year old financially wealthy. That booster made an investment
in making himself happy. That Washington's going to win a
national championship in part because of my contribution.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
To the program. That's why he's doing it.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
He's not doing it because he has such a soft
spot in his heart for that seventeen year old from Mobile,
Alabama that he really wants him to have a real
good shot at life. No, he's doing it so that
Washington can win football games. And if he loses that
player and that investment because the coach, who he didn't
bother to check it whether or not he was happy
(29:52):
or that coach told him that, oh I'm here forever,
and that coach can just leave willy nilly whenever he wants. Well,
now you're starting to a anger the people that are
pouring money into your program, and that to me is unsustainable.
So I think, and I know, this would never get passed.
That's why it's reckless at breakfast. Maybe this is leading
down the path where players can become free agents. It's
(30:14):
not affecting the product. The product looks great, and it's
giving us more to monitor and be excited about in
the off season. It's crazy free agency, there's no question
about it. But maybe you could curb some of that
if the coaches didn't have the same flexibility. They're the
ones making millions of dollars a year guaranteed, all right,
(30:36):
So maybe it is time to say to reverse it.
Once upon a time, players had to sit out a
year before they transfer coaches. If you have multiple years
left on your deal, unless you get fired like Brian Kelly,
you can't be contacted and you can't leave, And if
(30:57):
you want to leave, we will let you leave. When
going to like shackle you to a radiator in the
basement over at Montlake. If you want to leave, you
can leave, but you got to sit out a here
with no pay, and that program that you're going to
has to use an interim head coach for one year,
and then the program that you're leaving they can start
(31:18):
their process of finding somebody new, and you have to
wait unpaid for a year at the college loft. You
can get a job as a TV analyst if you want,
but you can't get paid by another program if you've
got multiple years left on his deal.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Maybe it flips.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Maybe players can become free agency free agents every offseason,
but coaches have to suffer the same penalties that players
had to forever that if you are under multiple years
on the deal, you have to sit out a year
before you go to the next program that is wooing you.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
That's what I propose, and reckless at breakfast.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Yeah, you're right in saying there's no way they probably
would ever go there, And yet I like the idea.
I think it's not far enough. I just don't understand
how you haven't recognized that it's unsustainable the way in
which it is. For a larger part what you just said,
boosters are going to get pissed if they're throwing millions
of dollars at their alumni, their program that they love,
(32:15):
and the coach is just like, well, this looks better
for me over there, And now all of a sudden,
the kid that you just gave a million dollars to
is heading with him somewhere, or the entire team is
in a shake up mode. So now you're back to
rebuilding and you have a couple of years before you're
relevant again. All of that kind of stuff I think
is going to be irritating to those that are given money.
(32:37):
I just don't understand how you can't if it is
professional football, which it is now, you're paying the players
and the coaches are making big time money. Just youve
got a contract, and if you want to get out
of it, okay, whichever side right. I mean, if an
NFL coach sucks and he's on a contract, then they
(32:57):
fire him and he's owed whatever is left. That's why
they're contracts. They don't sign them to big long ones
until you've proven were we think this dude is our
full time answer for the next five years or whatever
it is. And same thing goes with players that they
they do it and then they don't have these guarantees.
I just don't understand how you don't have contracts. I
(33:18):
mean to me, it's.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Probably as the next phase and it all.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, but when coaches can just say I have a
contract and I don't care.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I'm gonna if it were to ply, I'd wipe my
butt with it.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Right.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
When they act that way, then yeah, how can you
control the chaos?
Speaker 6 (33:32):
And especially if they're making so much money that they
don't really care, right they're like, Okay, that's fine, I'll
do this. I'm you know, I don't. I don't, I
don't take this contract seriously. Then yeah, that is a problem.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
So it's basically putting consequences on if you want to
run away from the contract, the agreement that you had
with this university.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
If it's worth it for you to, but you have.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
To there's got to be some consequence, yeah, because otherwise
the consequences for them just they just trickle downhill. They
just trickle to the team, the players, and then the players,
some of them are up and down and they don't
know who's coming in and so I want to follow him,
or I just want to go somewhere else, period, And
next thing, you know, I mean, really, then it's all
the way down to the fans and obviously the boosters
(34:15):
are part of that. It is unsustainable the way in
which they're doing right now, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah, you can't just jump to another college now. If
you can jump to the NFL, there's none you can
do about it. Right if you jump to another college program,
you can't. You can't coach for another year and you
can't make another dollar until another year.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
We did have a text that, Yeah, we did have
a texture that brought up a good point though that
if like let's say Jedfish were to leave you Dub
and then you Dub goes and wants to coach from
somewhere else, Well, now that coach would then have to
sit out a year as well. So then sure, yeah,
so then the program, though that kind of got scorned
by the coach, would still be in trouble because they
wouldn't have a coach for a year.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Well, you could hire somebody that is available. Yeah, it's
just a.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, Well you could hire somebody with one left on
their deal or their contract is expiring, or whatever the
case may be. So if somebody, if Jedfish left, he
has to sit out a year, but you get to
go out and find the best possible replacement for him,
you don't have to take somebody under contract.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Right, you know you don't have to.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
I'm just saying it could that they brought up a
good point that could compose another problem.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
But I don't know.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
I like the idea personally.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Well, I just think that there's a lot of money
being invested in this, and I can't imagine that somebody
that is sitting there saying, wait a minute, a minute.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I gave five hundred thousand dollars for that seventeen year old.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
He stayed a year because the coach left, and the
coach promised me that he wasn't going anywhere. And now
the investment that I made to that player he now
plays for Oregon, I made. I got five hundred thousand
dollars to come to Washington and he can transfer to Oregon.
And now I got to watch him try to beat US. YEP,
no way, no chance.
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