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November 17, 2025 38 mins
The Seahawks fall to the Rams in LA, but somehow, we aren’t too disappointed. Sam Darnold threw 4 interceptions, but the Hawks still had a chance to win the game in the last seconds, so there were a lot of positives to take away from the loss. :30- Grab your Cold Turkey Sandwiches, it’s time to check the board of scores! There were some crazy games in the NFL in week 11. :45- Coach Bucky is here and we only have one topic in mind this morning: At some point today, the Mariners and Josh Naylor should have a finalized agreement to keep him in Seattle for 5 more years, how is Coach Bucky feeling about it?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
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Speaker 2 (01:04):
Hey, good Monday morning, and welcome into the radio show.
It is six am, dark and early here on this Monday,
and we have assembled for a four hour radio program
where we will discuss many things Seattle sports, including the
Seahawks loss to the Los Angeles Rams twenty one to
nineteen and the re signing of Josh Naylor, which we'll

(01:25):
get to here in a matter of moments as well.
Good morning to you. Hope you all had a great weekend.
Ashley Ryan is here. Looks like she had a great weekend.
Look at the glow on her face. Hi. Yeah, yeah
it was good. It was good.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Yeah, it's a cracking game on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Got a win that was fun, very nice.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Stressed out about the Seahawks game leading up to it
all day yesterday and then watched it.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Stressed out. That was fun. Yeah, there was never any
moment not to be kind of stressed on your edge
of your seat.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Of that case, there was it which was crazy for
how terrible we looked at times.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, yeah, man, but also good at times, which we'll
cover here today. Buncky Jake since here as well, the
former Mariner.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Good weekend, great weekend. Yeah, yeah, a lot of chilling out.
Didn't do a ton of weather, wasn't wonderful. But yeah,
I got outside a little bit with the kids, and yeah,
I watched a lot of football. I watched a lot
of time, too much football.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I was just like, I'm done with this, and then
Lions Eagles came on. I'm like, this is pretty intriguing.
I guess my ass will continue to turn to mush.
That's fine. Yeah, like a couple more hours. Then I
get done with it, take a shower, and I go
hang out in the living room and like fall asleep immediately. Yeah,
for sure, what a day. What a day?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, I mean it's my wife doesn't ask anymore about
what games I have to watch. She just assumes if
I'm watching it, then I need to watch it. My kids,
on the other hand, Yeah, my kids on the other hand, are.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Like, Dad, do you have to watch this one too? Yep, yep,
I do. This one is a must watch.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
But then yeah, got down to the Detroit game and
it was like, don't have to, but I'm gonna. Ah,
I'm sorry. Yeah, they wanted to watch Monday Night Raw.
Oh from last Monday.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I was it was Sunday Nay. Look, okay, hey it's
Dan Campbell. It is Monday Night Raw. Kinda yeah, that's right,
very unpredictable. Never know when he's gonna come off the
top rope and go for it on fourth and thirty
two from his own fourgy Well, welcome into the show.
We got a lot to cover today. Of course, some
Seahawks rams will be the primary focus. It is a

(03:35):
Monday morning quarterback day, and all of our Titans of
Analysis will be here today to break it all down
for you. It is a loss twenty one to nineteen
to the Los Angeles Rams in Los Angeles, and I
realize all the world is screaming Sam Darnold doesn't have
what it takes in big games. Man. I just don't
see it that way as we sit here on a

(03:55):
Monday morning. I mean, I don't know, maybe I'm crazy,
but I saw a head coach who pretty much took
Matt Stafford and Sean McVay to work, took him to school. Yesterday.
After the first quarter, Matt Stafford finished with one hundred
and thirty passing yards. He's been the best quarterback in
the National Football League until the second quarter of yesterday's game.

(04:20):
I saw a team that had lost the turnover battle
four to one. And I saw a team yesterday that,
if not for a punt that flucishly went out of bounds,
that the one yard line and you had to go
ninety well not ninety nine yards, but you had to
go that much further to get into field goal range

(04:40):
with little time remaining. A team that went one in
four in the red zone and settled for field goals
all day long, a team that nearly doubled up the
yardage output of the Los Angeles Rams yesterday, that held
the ball for nearly twice the amount of time that
the Mighty La Rams. I mean, they faced a great
team yesterday, a great offense, a great defense, and despite

(05:04):
all of that that happened, they found themselves with a
chance to win the game late on a sixty one
yard field goal which Jason Myers would have made from
seventy earlier in the game, and for whatever reason, just
didn't hit it. True, I mean, despite the frustration, and yeah,
I think Sam Darnold cost us the game yesterday, and
I think he'd be the first one to admit that

(05:25):
with his four interceptions. But despite it all, I kind
of came away with it. Maybe I'm crazy. We're better
than this team and we're gonna show it later on
this year. So yeah, we're a game and a half
out of first place at this point. But to me,
after the first quarter, Mike McDonald, everything settled in and

(05:47):
I believe that we just completely outplayed them and yet
lost the game by two points. That's how I feel
this Monday morning.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Well, I you know how I look at the glass
half full for the most part. I mean I came
away with far more positive thoughts than negative thoughts. I
mean the fact that, yeah, your quarterback threw four picks
and you still basically had a chance to win right
down to the end.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
It says something.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I mean, most of the time, most teams, you just
put throw any two teams out there, and if one
of them throws four interceptions, it's not typically you're not
typically going to have a last second chance at winning
the ball game. That's just you're usually going to lose
by double digits, it seems. And so I mean, I
don't know if I'd go so far as to say
I felt like you're better or the Seahawks are better

(06:32):
than them.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
But they controlled the ball. I mean, they moved the ball.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
It wasn't like it was it was just when they
got down in the red zone they ended up having
to settle for field goals. You know of four times
I think it was. And then there was a couple
other times where you're getting right inside a field goal
range or close to it at least, and you have
a pick, and yet the defense bote up to only
give up twenty one points to a team that's been rolling.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
The way that they have.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
There's definitely positives to look at. It was a bad
game by Sam. There was some you know, just kind
of off, you know, it was it was off a
little bit timing wise. Throw a few of those picks
were felt like it was late, you know, like an
extra hitch, and all of a sudden they were jumping
in on the first hitch. And so, yeah, there's there's
a lot of things to clean up. That's why you

(07:18):
end up losing that ball game. I definitely wouldn't think
that they're flying home from Los Angeles thinking, man, we're
just not on the same level as those guys. I'm
sure that they're thinking, man, we had every opportunity to
win that ball game.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
We should have won that game. Yeah, and they have
to be thinking that, I know.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
I think Leonard Williams after the game was interviewed and
said like, yeah, we're ready. You know, I'm already waiting
for them to come back up to Seattle, like I
think they think. I think they let that one get
away that should have been our win. And especially after
the way the game started, you stop them on their
first possession and then to have that interception run back
all the way to the three was it the three
yard liners? You know, at that point, the defense is like, oh,

(07:56):
we just took care of business, you know, and they
and they almost took care of business again. I mean
they did technically holding him to a field goal there,
but uh or no, that was a touchdown. But yeah,
But I just think there were so many positive things,
especially defensively, to take away from that game. And then
even with Donald throwing those four interceptions and still having

(08:17):
the composure to lead the team at the end of
the game to have a chance to win, it was good.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah. As a matter of fact, that's yes, he threw
four interceptions. He cost us the game. Yeah, And if
you ask Sam, he's gonna say, I can't do that, right,
you know. And yet that gunslinger mentality that he's played
with all season long, that everybody's been raving about and
I'm not just talking about here in Seattle everywhere to

(08:46):
he took that same mentality in and I didn't see
a guy that at any point was starting to question himself.
Mike McDonald and Clint Kubiak have clearly given them the
instructions go out there and rip it. Even after the game,
Mike McDonald was asked Sam Darnold's performance, he said, fine
with it, went out there and ripped it. Those were
the words that he used in the postgame press conference.

(09:09):
And certainly no head coach wants to lose the turnover
battle four to one. No head coach is ever going
to give a gold star to somebody that throws four interceptions.
But despite the four interceptions, Sam was Sam's game never
really changed. He led a touchdown drive in the fourth
quarter and let a feel goal attempt drive in the

(09:30):
fourth quarter, which, again, if that ball doesn't somehow go
out at the one, I think we win the game.
I think that if you're starting at the twenty, I
mean nineteen yards difference. Yeah, Now to mention the backs
against the wall feeling that you have to play with
when you're at the one yard line, you can't just
come out and do your normal two minute drill at
that point. You got to get out of harm's way

(09:50):
first and that takes time. So for him to lead
basically two scoring drives despite throwing four interceptions in the game,
I just didn't see a guy whose confidence was shaken.
I think he threw some ill timed passes. Other than that, Yeah,
he I mean, he certainly, I mean led more drives

(10:12):
than Matt Stafford did yesterday. I watched Jared Goff play
the Eagles last night, Mushy button all, and I saw
a guy that lost his confidence, that couldn't complete a
pass that you know, look like he was afraid to
get hit, was afraid to make the mistake. Where I
didn't see that from Sam Donald. Yes, Sam Donald's fault

(10:36):
that we lost the game. He doesn't throw those four interceptions,
Seahawks probably win the game. But I just, I mean,
I just heard this narrative like that everything's on the
line for Sam Like we're gonna sit here on a
Monday morning and ask, Okay, what does this mean about
Sam Donald. I think he played the exact same way.
He got caught with his hand in the cookie jar

(10:56):
a couple times too many, playing very aggressive football, and
I don't think anything changes in my opinion about Sam Donald.
He's been playing that way and playing very well all
season long. I don't feel any differently about him. Am
I worried that Sam Donald's not the right guy the
next time we face the Rams or to try to

(11:16):
lead us in the second half of the season. Not
for one second, so played them, made four reckless plays
yesterday and the Rams caught every single one of them.
Other than that, though, he outplayed Matt Stafford, who's the
MVP of the National Football League right now.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, well, I mean it, I think that he just didn't. Yeah,
he had some mistakes, obviously, I think it was late
getting rid of a couple of them, and yet he
just if you do that, you put yourself in harm's way.
I do think that punt that you're talking about, I
mean that's about as perfect as you can possibly place it,
and then yet it's there's some luck involved with that,
and that did put you kind of behind the eight ball.

(11:54):
I think they only had what the one time out
left at that point as well, So it kind of
felt like, boy, you are it's gonna need your gonna
need a near perfect, you know, two minute offensive drive
to kind of get down there and get to where
you really feel good about the.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Game winning field goal.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
And they had a couple mishaps here and there that
were just you know a couple of plays that didn't
weren't positive, and you didn't just go bing bing bing
and get right down.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
There the way they could.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
But Yeah, ultimately you, you floundered a little bit, You
had a couple of mistakes that ended up turning into
points for them and not points for you. In a
two point ball game, it doesn't take but one or
two things to change. I think that the team, the
rest of his teammates kind of feel like, dude, that's fine,
that's gonna happen, right, I mean, is for is a

(12:41):
bad game, right threes are really is still a pretty
bad game. But you're gonna have some interceptions and over
the course of the season they're gonna accumulate. I think
that if anything, it would just be okay. If you
go out and he turns a ball over a bunch
of times against Tennessee, then it's a talking point.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
That's then it's conversation.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Otherwise it's not a it's just a yeah, you had
a bad game, and really it was you were kind
of controlling the ball and you're playing against a really
good defense that gets really stout down in the red zone,
and so you're going you're when you're going against a
good team, sometimes they're going to make good plays and
if it if you combine it with poor timing or
just a bad decision on your part, like that jump pass.

(13:19):
You know, if you okay, it's just not what you
need to do right there. That's not the city that
doesn't call for that in that situation. Those are the
type of things, the small little things, and it's so
important for a quarterback to not do that because, yeah,
you find yourself in a very evenly matched ball game
coming up on the short end.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, I mean, I just keep going back to we
tell him to let it rip, and I think he
let it rip, and yeah he got I'll repeat this.
I think he got the hand caught in the cookie jar.
You you know you were a kid. I got a
lot more cookies than I got caught trying to slip cookies,
you know, when mom wasn't looking. I ate a lot
more cookies than I did get caught. And I think
he got caught yesterday. I mean I watched the Bills

(13:57):
Buccaneers game pretty much the entire thing. Baker Mayfield could
have thrown nine interceptions yesterday. Josh Allen could have thrown
eight interceptions yesterday, but not every single one of them
got caught by the defense. Sam Donald's four interception possibilities
got caught by the defense yesterday, and so Yeah, he's
got to wear it. And I'll be the first person

(14:19):
this morning to say, we win that game if Sam
Donald doesn't commit four turnovers. Yeah, okay. Yeah. But on
the other hand, I think that I am encouraged that
he never really changed the way that he's been playing
all season long. And I think that's a byproduct of
Mike McDonald and Clint Kubiak. They got the version of

(14:40):
Sam Donald that they want to get, obviously, with the
obvious being we can't turn the ball over that many times.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, And as you said, Sam would be the first
one to say that. I mean he probably that whole
flight home, just was replaying each one of those interceptions,
watching the video, just thinking why did I make that choice?

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Why did I do that?

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Because I mean I was sitting there yelling at the TV,
like what are you doing? There was a couple moments where,
at least on a couple of those interceptions where it
seemed like, were you actually just throwing it to the Rams?
I mean, there wasn't, but he was also under so
much pressure. But I mean, because we can't take away
from the Rams defense at all.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
The Rams that made grazy.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, they were phenomenal and if you would have told
me when that game started and they scored two touchdowns
and we were only scoring field goals, if you would
have told me at the end of the game we
would have been kicking the ball for a chance to
win it, I would have laughed at you.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
And that has everything to do with Mike McDonald, which
I think is the other storyline here, because the other
thing that we spend even more time on last week,
more than what does this say about Sam Donald if
he doesn't get the job done? We spent very little
time on that, even though it did become a topic. Well,
we spent the majority of the week talking about is

(15:55):
McDonald versus McVeigh and McDonald won. I mean McDonald just
completely out schemed. I mean Matt Stafford has not looked
confused all season long. He was confused for three quarters.
I mean he was handed a ball at the three
yard line, it took him four plays to get it
in on a touchdown, and then they had a couple
of other touchdown drives. Other than that, Matt Stafford was

(16:17):
throwing dirting a lot of balls, throwing a lot of
balls away. He barely completed fifty percent of his passes yesterday.
He didn't say take a sack, and he didn't commit
a turnover. And maybe that goes to a lot more
experience than what Sam Donald has playing in big games
and just playing period. But he looked as confused as

(16:38):
I've seen Matt Stafford look in a Rams uniform yesterday.
And that's all has to do with Mike McDonald and
his defense. He kept Matt Stafford from getting into a
rhythm again pretty much for three quarters yesterday.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
It was a well coached game, I thought. I felt
like both teams came out and did some things. I mean,
it's hard for me to compare the just the stats
side by side, simply because one of the positives that
you take out of a loss is how well Seattle
did move the ball against their defense. Now again, didn't
do a whole heck of a lot except for kickfield

(17:13):
goals when they got down there for the first three
quarters until that that final touchdown that they gave them
the chance. And and yet so to me, it's kind
of like, well, the Rams defense is pretty good, it's
a it is a really good defense, and yet the
offense showed up and controlled the ball. And then the
way in which the score went down. It's not like
I think the Rams were by any stretch thinking oh,

(17:34):
we can take our foot off the gas. And yet
there also was a we're just trying to methodically, you wanted,
they wanted to put together good drives, and when they would,
when they would get a couple first downs, then it
would stall out or it would the defense would end
up stopping them. So to me, it was the way
in which the score was of the game. I don't
necessarily compare the stats equal to each other because it's

(17:55):
just like, well, it's not like we were in prevent
defense and they were taking their foot off the gas.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
That was three quarters worth. They had twelve first downs
for the entire game. Yeah, they just didn't have But
that's what I mean. They just didn't have the ball.
I mean, it was like.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Away from them, or we kept it away from them. Offensively,
that's the part where that's where it seems like they're
not really too even steven things. But it's the same game,
I mean, you want to That's where I'm giving credit
to the Seahawks defense and to Mike McDonald because they
didn't allow them to sustain these seven minute drives that

(18:29):
I mean was it the third quarter or second quarter?
That was basically three drives a seven minute drive for
the Seahawks, and then they got the ball and punted,
and then another seven minute drive or the entire quarter
they had the ball, and so it was just one
of those. And yet at that point in time, it's
fourteen to nine going into halftime, So it was just like, wow,
you just felt like you you absolutely dominated that quarter
in particular, you had the ball the entire time, and

(18:52):
yet you still find yourself on the losing end. So
it's a It was a good game and definitely the
matchup of McVeigh versus McDonald lived up to the hype.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Wait for the rematch. I can't wait for the analysis
from our experts, which is coming your way. Let's find
out what's on tap? What's on tep, what's on tap?
All right? Rams do win over the Seahawks twenty one
to nineteen, so they take an essence a game and
a half lead in the NFC West seven and three.

(19:20):
Seahawks will next play at Tennessee against the worst team
in the National Football their trap game. That will be
next Sunday, so you better bring it. Grace Zabel left
this game with an injury, and it did not look good,
and that is not a guy you want to lose.
So we'll get an update from Greg Bell at seven
oh five, and then at eight o'clock Hugh Millan will
join us with Monday Morning Quarterback Today. Mike Homem gonna

(19:42):
be with us at nine o'clock. So we've got two
and a half plus hours of analysis of yesterday's lost
to the Los Angeles Rams. The Philadelphia Eagles won over
Detroit sixteen to nine late last night. Big controversial play
at the end, a pass interference which denied Detroit getting
the ball back and a chance to tie the game,

(20:03):
maybe even win the game the way that Dan Campbell
calls things, and instead it's a Philadelphia victory. Something we'll
talk to Gene Sterator about tomorrow. But we've got your
entire scoreboard coming up at six point thirty with cold
turkey sandwich aboard of scores. U dub gets back on
the winning track forty nine thirteen blowout win over Purdue Saturday,

(20:26):
But the big upset. The big talking point in college
football Saturday was Oklahoma upsetting Alabama. Oklahoma's jumped them in
the APE poll. They're up to eight. Alabama fell six
spots all the way down to number ten. Ohio State
is still ranked number one. We'll certainly talk more college
football tomorrow. Kraken have one two straight, including four to

(20:48):
one over San Jose Saturday night in front of Ashley Ryan.
They will play tomorrow at Detroit against the fighting Everett
Fitzhughes and Josh Naylor, which we will find time to
talk about today, but certainly designate it for more time tomorrow.
If you haven't heard great news Mariner fans. The first
free agent to sign this offseason, like legit free agent

(21:12):
is Josh Naylor, and he has decided to re sign
with the Seattle Mariners, a five year deal estimation between
ninety and one hundred million dollars. He has to pass
a physical today, but when you re sign with your
own team, they kind of know, Yeah, they know what
they're dealing with. Yeah, so I don't think that would
be any kind of a hurdle to have to clear.

(21:34):
But today we should finalize the Josh Naylor deal. He's
going to remain. A Seattle Mariner analysis coming your way
later on in the show. And finally, sad news, Kenny
easily passed away over the weekend and one of the
all time great players in NFL history, certainly one of
the all time great Seahawks. And so he left us

(21:55):
too early. So Kenny easily one of the great Seahawks
passing away over the weekend. All right, we'll get to
a lot today. Coming up next cold Turkey sandwich, a
board of scores on Chuck and Buck Sports Radio ninety
three point three KJRFM, Riley Patterson steps up.

Speaker 5 (22:12):
He's gonna have the pool split at the nineteen yard
line of twenty nine yard kick for the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
For all the marbles in Madrid. Snap and hold are
good and the kick is good.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Miami win it in the Spanish capital over time for
the second time in two weeks in the International series.
But it's the Dolphins that go dancing out of Spain
within a sixteen to seventeen victory over the Commanders.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Sounds so Weiry, it's Chucking, Buck and Ashley with you. Yes,
we do have Greg Bell on the way at seven
o five. You millin at eight o'clock, and yeah, I
mean I opened myself to him coming on today and
saying Sam Darnold's atrocious and you don't know what you're
talking about. And he did have a bad game, no
doubt about with the four interceptions, but we shall see.

(23:02):
I'm still looking very much forward to you Millen and
Mike Holmgan breaking it down for us from eight to nine.
By the way, we didn't even mention this, that whole
sequence where caller up, who I'm ready to be caller out.
That's like two weeks in a row that in very
limited play on time, he's had two terrible penalties that

(23:24):
have cost this team. And so yeah, that that was
the penalty on the took about the touchdown, took away
the locker touchdown, and then Sam misses Shaheed. Yeah, well
he didn't miss him, he underthrew him. Yeah, that was
another short touchdown and you have to settle for a
field goal at that. That was a really crucial sequence
right there, and Sam did make a bad throw. He
should have got it there on time. So anyway, a

(23:45):
lot to talk about with Hugh and with coach coming
up at eight o'clock today, let's get to your board
of scores. That's right, it's time for cold Turkey sandwich.
The highlight was the early early game, the last European game,
where the Miami, Dolph and the Washington Commanders head coaches
put on a clinic on how not to operate your

(24:06):
offense in the two minut drill and ended up going
to overtime, where Miami won it by a final score
of sixteen to thirteen. The Dolphins improved to four and seven.
The Commanders are three to eight. Another overtime game, Carolina
won over Atlanta thirty to twenty seven. Don't look now,
but the Panthers are just a game out of first place.

(24:27):
Bryce Young had four hundred and forty eight passing yards
in the game for Carolina. Meanwhile, Michael Pennix left the
game with a knee injury and might miss some time.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, of the team that has that
one game lead over Carolina, it shrunk their lead. Suddenly
you got a divisional racedown. Actually just a half a game.

(24:48):
I take that back, just a half a game, six
and four and six and five. Meanwhile, Buffalo won over
Tampa Bay forty four to thirty two. Josh Allen had
some crazy plays in that game that kind of remind
did you of young Josh Allen, But he also had
six touchdowns in the game as well, which kind of
reminded you of awesome, Josh Allen.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, he's pretty good. I mean that was a kind
of a heavyweight fight. I think those are two probably
two playoff teams, I would imagine, and they were toe
to toe and the Bills just kind of pulled away
there at.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
The end behind Davis Mills. The Houston Texans have climbed
back to five hundred, but they narrowly went over the
lowly Tennessee Titans a sixteen to thirteen the final score.
Tennessee perhaps on its way to back to back number
one picks in the NFL Draft. They are one to
nine and we'll host the Seattle Seahawks next Sunday. Chicago

(25:41):
Bears just keep finding ways to win. I'll give Ben
Johnson's team that. I don't know if they're as good
as a seven and three record, but they keep figuring
out ways to pull games out. Yesterday, Minnesota rallied back
to take a seventeen to sixteen lead late in the game,
but they had the Bears, that is, had a game
winning forty eight yard field goal. So Chicago now leads

(26:03):
a division that you know, everybody talked about, Detroit, Green
Bay and Minnesota going into the year and it's the
Bears who were in first place in that division. That's
quite the flip of roo.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
I mean, it was gonna be interesting to see what
Ben Johnson could do with Kayleb Williams, and their front
office went out and said, hey, we're gonna go ahead
and make some moves to to you know, upgrade that
side of the ball. Yeah, they don't look super consistent,
but that's, I guess to be expected. Was still somewhat
of a young quarterback in a first year head coach
try and implement his system. But it's the biggest flip

(26:37):
in the NFL as far as that division goes. That
the other three teams were unbelievable last year. Yeah, all
three playoff teams I think, and now all of a sudden,
Chicago's the team that's on top.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Interesting. I don't think it's gonna last. Well.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
It's funny though, because all of their wins lately, it
seems like you're watching it the end going like, how
did they just do that?

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Especially?

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah, yesterday Minnesota was terrible. Chicago should not it should
not have had them down to them winning the last second.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Minnesota looked awful. I guess they did lose a lot
of crazy games last year in the end if you
remember the Daniels, Hail Mary and things like that. But man,
they certainly seem to be winning all of those crazy
games this year. The Green Bay Packers just a half
game back, they bounced back with a twenty seven to
twenty win over the New York Giants. Jamis Winston made

(27:22):
the start for the Giants two hundred and one passing
yards and a touchdown run, but New York falls to
two and nine. That was their first game without Brian
Dable as head coach. The Pittsburgh Steelers won over Cincinnati
thirty four to twelve, So Pittsburgh improves to six and four.
That angles are now three and seven. But said yesterday
that when Joe Burrow is ready, regardless of record, he

(27:44):
is going to play for us in a Cincinnati uniform
this season. As soon as he's ready, he's back in
the starting lineup. Meanwhile, Pittsburgh doesn't know when Aaron Rodgers
will be back into the starting lineup. He not only
left the game with a wrist injury, it might be
a broken bone. The ball Timore Ravens have now won
four straight. They won over Cleveland. Wasn't easy, but they

(28:04):
took out the Browns in Cleveland twenty three to sixteen.
So Baltimore is five and five. They've climbed out of
that one in five hole. They dug themselves. Meanwhile, for Cleveland,
Miles Garrett had four more sacks yesterday. He has fifteen
now on the season through ten games, which means he's
on pace for over twenty five sacks this year, which

(28:27):
would be not only an NFL record, an NFL record
by a good two and a half three sacks. And
so Miles Garrett probably on track to win Defensive Player
of the Year even though the team is two and
eight on the season. The Jacksonville Jaguars just destroyed the
Chargers yesterday thirty five to six. Huh looking forward to

(28:50):
the by much? I mean, what other explanation is it
for the Los Angeles Chargers to look that horrible against
a team that's been declined ever since the four week
mark of the season.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah, the Jaguars are pretty odd as far as they're
not very consistent, and yet if they're if you give
them the opportunity, that defense will take the ball from you,
and that's where you wind up, you know, finding yourself
getting absolutely smoked like the Chargers did yesterday really tough
for me to watch.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Sorry about it. Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure. The Chargers
are now two games back of the Denver Broncos, who
are nine and two on the season. The Broncos are
four and a half games up on the Kansas City Chiefs.
The Broncos won yesterday twenty two to nineteen. Their field
goal kicker Will Luttz walked it off, and the Kansas

(29:38):
City Chiefs have lost two straight. After it looked like, man,
they were back, the Chiefs were back. They've lost two straight.
They're a five hundred football team right now.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah, they they I mean they're still good ball club.
I mean they just had a hard time figuring out
a way to penetrate the defense. The Broncos defense is
what's basically their quality card at this point. I mean
the offense, Bo Nicks and Sean Payton, they'll find a
way to call enough plays to get enough points. But
boil boy, it's it's on the edge of your seat

(30:06):
type of thing. But the nice thing is is, as
long as you're not turning the ball over a bunch
of times, your defense doesn't give you a chance to
be in every game.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
San Francisco forty nine Ers won a laugher over Arizona
forty one to twenty two. Rock Party return to guide
the forty nine ers to their seventh winn of the
year against just four losses. Meanwhile, the Arizona Cardinals got
forty seven completions from Jacoby Burssett, a new NFL record
forty seven for fifty seven, and still lost by nineteen points.

(30:34):
That's hard to do yet. Finally, good Philadelphia sixteen to
nine winners over the Detroit Lions last night. To Jared
Goff was terrible last night. Fourteen completions and thirty seven attempts.
You just don't see an NFL quarterback with that low
of a completion percentage these days. Couldn't convert anything on
third or fourth down for the Detroit Lions, and yet

(30:56):
they still had a chance to win the game late
if not for a horrorru p I call by the
rest down the sideline. Chris collins Worth called out on
the spot, I don't even see how anyone could have
made that call. Me are how are you doing that?
When you got hand fighting between receiver and defensive back
with the game on the line, and you're calling some

(31:16):
tickie tack p I call down the sideline. That is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
It is well just across the board, the way in
which they decipher which ones they're gonna let them hand
fight and how much they're gonna let them.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Do those two guys fight all day long, and then
you call it in the most critical moment of the game. Yeah,
I mean it's there.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
There's there's all kinds of times I'm watching any any
game and I just see something where it's like, that's
blatant pass interference and they don't call it, or that's
not really pass, that's good defense.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
That yes, they're so close to each other that.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
They're going to be kind of rubbing arms and kind
of be doing hand fighting as they call it, and
they do call it. It's like the guys in his
back pocket, how.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Are you calling that one?

Speaker 3 (31:57):
And then there's other times that guy grabs it so
we can only go with one arm and they don't
call that one. I don't understand where it's at. I
can't wait to talk to Gene about it.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
This is no accusation, but it's calls like that that
start all of this stuff about the league is rigged. Yeah,
I mean you just got to be better as an
official than that. I mean, you have allowed those two
to go out of each other all night long, and
then with the game on the line, with them having
a chance to get the ball back because Siriani's made
a silly decision to go for it on fourth and

(32:26):
one from his own thirty, they let him have a
chance to get and then you call that and game over.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Well, those are the moments that we see an official
shouldn't determine the outcome of a game, and in that one,
it's hard to say they didn't.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Monday Night Football tonight, the Dallas Cowboys will be in
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chill Monday. We count it down all day long to
Monday Night Football tonight at five point fifteen. Coming up next, Coach,

(33:00):
He's going to stop by, but we only got one
topic in mind for Coach Bucky Today. His name is
Josh Naylor. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM coached
every single sport out there, including sloth hunting, and yet
I only want to talk baseball with coach Bucky here
this morning because yesterday we got to wonderful news here

(33:20):
in Seattle. At some point today we should have a
finalized agreement with Josh Naylor to remain our first baseman
for the next five years.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
What'd you think of that? That was the best news
all day, without a doubt. I mean, I think I
don't think there's anybody that cheers for the Mariners that
wasn't hoping that that was. I mean, we heard it
was going to be their number one priority, but you know,
there's been other things that I think we've heard, like
we really this is a top priority for us, and
they end up going somewhere else. And so the fact
that that sounds like that they're going to be able

(33:51):
to finalize this, it's just waiting for the physical side
of it. And you're right, once you leave the season,
everybody knows. Everybody in that building knows what his physical
situation is right now, and he was healthy enough to
be playing at the end of the year. So great news.
I mean, he was the guy that we I think
everybody had circled bike. If you really are serious about
pushing this thing over the top, don't let something that

(34:13):
you found at the trade deadline that fit in perfectly,
don't let that walk away.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I think it's such a great sign for the organization, frankly,
because I mean, we talk about how they're not accustomed
to making those deals at the deadline for a rental
player anyway, and so for them to do it and
to give up a prospect. We've also accused them of
falling in love with all of their prospects. I know
it wasn't easy for them. I know it was. John

(34:39):
stand said it publicly. It wasn't easy for me to
go ask the owners for more money at the trading
deadline to afford both Naylor and swore as the rest
of the way. So for the front office to actually
entertain that, for ownership to say, yeah, that's worth that,
and then to get to the offseason and recognize, man

(35:00):
that really works for us. Come on, ownership, get a
little uncomfortable with another big fat contract, and now giving
up the prospect for Josh Naylor, who you'll get for
five more seasons, looks like nothing in the transaction process.
The only reason that it was risky is because Naylor
could leave you after a couple of months. Now you

(35:22):
got him for the next five years. And you've obviously
were very aggressive for him to be the first free
agent Bucky off of the board this offseason. They obviously
hit him with a deal that he liked. You know,
they played up to market value, and they didn't even
allow him to go entertain other offers. I think that
this is just a great sign overall about a lot

(35:44):
of lessons that have been learned by this organization the
last eighteen months.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah, well, I mean, I get how you don't like
playing in that sandbox of giving away a prospect for
a rental player, and yet this year they decided to
do it because they realized they needed to You needed
to upgrade at first base primarily, and you could use
one obviously at third base and Geno. And so the
idea of going out and saying we got we're not
gonna stand pat right now.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
We like where we're at.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
And yet it's if we want to go win a
World Series, and you were as close as you've ever
been to getting at least two to one and having
a shot at it. To recognize that and then also
being I would say, well, this is our plan. Our
hope was that we give away a prospect that we
did like in getting him, but hopefully he falls in
love with the city, falls in love with the teammates,
falls in love with being a Seattle Mariner, and we

(36:33):
give come back.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
It's very clear that he did. By the way.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, I mean, he seems like the type of guy.
I mean, just for watching him from afar. We haven't
got to meet him yet, but it seems like the
type of guy that he's just going to be a
class act, good teammate regardless of where he's at right.
The intensity that brings the you know, just kind of
the passion for the game, the serious and kind of
no nonsense like I'm here to win ball games.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
I'm here to go out and do my job. I
think that plays everywhere.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
And yet there's something there is a special nucleus of guys,
you know, Cal and Julio and the rest of the gang.
I think that it is a really tight knit clubhouse,
even though every clubhouse says that, I legitimately know that
there's a difference, and you can see that there's a difference.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
And he liked it well and it's nice to hear
when Darry was talking about in that postseason press conference,
you know, we like to bring these guys into the
trade deadline because that's the best time of year here
and then they get to fall in love with the
city and they really and then we get to give
them a taste of what they have and that's kind
of been our so to see it then work out
after his really promising.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Certainly worked with Castile even though he was under contract,
and so it was a little easier to negotiate this
is you want him over, and you obviously offered a
reasonable salary. It didn't go cheap otherwise, Josh Naylor's not
signing before Thanksgiving. It was well done by all people involved.

(37:52):
And what a great fit he's been here in Seattle.
The fan base adores him, and it's nice to hear
that he likes Seattle just as much as the fans
like him. All Right, we'll talk more about a little
bit later on in the show. Coming up next. Headlines
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