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November 17, 2025 36 mins
Headlines and 12th man news with GREGG BELL (Tacoma News Tribune) The Seahawks lost a close one in LA yesterday despite 4 turnovers and struggles in the red zone, so what can we take away from the loss? :30- The Mariners put a smile on fans’ faces as they work to finalize a 5-year deal with Josh Naylor that should be completed today. :35- We had an ok FoF week last week, can Bucky get things going this week? :45- We always here from Seahawks head coach Mike MacDonald after a game; what did he think of Darnold’s 4 INTs?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Donald given time off his back foot gets intercepted. It's
Cameron Kinchins, who made his name against.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Seattle last year.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Stretch play.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Williams has the same and more cuts it back inside
the ten, inside the five, first and all at the one,
Stafford has Adams.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
This time it's a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Darnald hit is, He throws a flutters and it's picks.
It's d Rent with the interception.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Here's the fad.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Looking downfield for Smith and Jack Bob who puncked it
with one hand. J s n Second and ten, there's
nikoua ball is out. It is recovered by Seattle. First
and twenty. Donald zips one and it's a start interception
Kitchens with his second of the day. Donald in trouble

(00:52):
jump throw intercepted for the fourth time. It's Walker. It
is a touchdown, the first of the day for the Seahawks.
Finally find the end zone. It's a one score game
with two twenty three to play. Shaheed watches it. Folks
inside the five and out of pounds inside the one.

(01:13):
Wow eighth and Evans there's no way he's ever made
a better punt.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
To fucks television, Joe Davis and we can tell you
who you're rooting for. La Boy on the call there
with Greg Olsen yesterday. A lot of highlights, very good
entertaining football game. Unfortunately, Sam Darnold committed four turnovers in
the contest, and that certainly was the difference in the
game as the Rams win twenty one to nineteen over

(01:42):
the Seahawks in Los Angeles, despite the fact that the
Seahawks had one hundred and forty nine more passing yards,
had twenty six first downs to their twelve, possessed the
ball for almost twice the amount of time that the
Rams did. It was La that converted on fourth downs
where Seahawks were settling for field goals, and it's the

(02:04):
Rams that commit to or create four interceptions against Sam
Darneld the difference in the game twenty one to nineteen,
and it's the Rams who are now first place in
the NFC West by a game, and if you count
the tiebreaker over the Seahawks right now a game and
a half. We'll be talking about it a lot for
the rest of the show today. Good morning, Welcome in.

(02:26):
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tonight at five fifteen pm. Of course, we also have
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Before Greg Bell joins us in about a minute from now,
he'll give us an update on Gray Zabel's injury. He

(02:47):
left the game and did not look good. We'll find
out more from Greg here. In a matter of moments,
college football, you dub over Purdue Saturday forty nine to thirteen.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
It was a laugher.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Cracking have won two straight, including four to one, went
over the Baby Sharks of San Jose on Saturday night.
They'll play tomorrow in Detroit against the Red Wings and
Josh Naylor is back. He is going to make it
official today. It sounds like he will sign a five
year contract with the Seattle Mariners, the first major free

(03:18):
agent to sign in the offseason, and he's decided to
re sign with the city that he fell so deeply
in love with.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Over the last couple of months.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Josh Naylor will be back at first base for the
Mariners this year and for five years to come. Awesome
news there. Let's talk to Greg Bell with a bell tolls.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
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Speaker 6 (04:10):
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Speaker 6 (04:14):
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Speaker 3 (04:24):
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Speaker 8 (04:27):
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Speaker 6 (04:32):
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Speaker 8 (04:36):
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Speaker 6 (04:40):
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the products that are.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
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Speaker 8 (04:47):
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Speaker 6 (04:49):
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Speaker 3 (04:51):
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Speaker 8 (04:52):
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Speaker 4 (04:53):
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Speaker 6 (04:58):
That wouldn't mind, I wouldn't right.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Well, obviously there was no bubbly in the Seahawks locker
room after a twenty one to nineteen loss where they
lost the turnover battle.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Four to one.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
What was the mode?

Speaker 4 (05:11):
What was the theme amongst coaches and players after that
loss yesterday?

Speaker 6 (05:16):
Well, you know what, despite what fans may want him
to have been, they were not laying on the floor
in misery and pain and wailing and the sky was falling.
They had a pretty good handle on what the Rams did,
both offensively and defensively. They felt, especially on defense, that
they did what no other team in the league has

(05:37):
done with Matthew Stafford and mcveigh's offense.

Speaker 7 (05:40):
So far this.

Speaker 6 (05:40):
Season, the Rams had beaten four consecutive teams by fourteen
or more points. Stafford had become the first quarterback in
the NFL to throw for four plus touchdown passes and
no interceptions in three consecutive games, and all that ended yesterday.
The only reason the Rams scored twenty one points. Was
that McDonald handed him two of their three touchdowns, handed

(06:00):
it to him with interceptions that gave the Rams two
drive starts for touchdowns. First two touchdowns well not to
two of the three touchdowns were three yards and twenty
five yards. So and even then the Seahawks defense a
couple times more turned the Rams away. So when I
talked to Leonard Williams and Chen and will Sue and

(06:22):
the guys on the defensive side, Williams just flighted out said,
I can't wait to see these guys again. Mike McDonald
offered unsolicited, We're gonna see these guys a lot, maybe
a third time, meaning in the playoff matchup. And they
were welcoming that they thought over the hole, that they
played well enough to win that game. But when your

(06:44):
quarterback throws four interceptions into tight coverage and it's looked
fooled by what the Rams are doing, and we can
get into that when I talked to Cooper Cup about it,
that's the difference Donald flopp in his biggest game yet
for the Seahawks, and it leaves questions of one who
is the real Sam Darnold When the games are big,
and the teams are good, and who are these Seahawks.

(07:07):
They still have not beaten any top seventeen, the playoff
caliber team in the NFC. They still are behind the
Rams and the forty nine ers, who they both lost
to this season. They're still down the pecking order in
the NFC West until further notice. And that's really the
most damning thing that come out of yesterday.

Speaker 9 (07:25):
Gee, what was the reason behind the picks? I mean,
sometimes you just have an errant throw. To me, it
felt like there was an extra hitch or just a
delay in getting the ball to the guy that he
chose to throw it to that allowed the guys to
kind of jump in front of at least a couple
of those picks. And so did he give any explanation
or did you see any reason why why those were happening?

(07:46):
And it wasn't just you know, horrible throws. It was
kind of bad decision or late decision.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
What was it to you?

Speaker 6 (07:53):
Well, a couple things, Bucky one on the fourth interception.
I got to parse them all because there were a
few interception Down twenty one to twelve in the fourth quarter,
they were on the edge of field goal range. It's
third down, it's going to be a fifty plus yard
field goal. Myers had just made a fifty seven yard
of the same end. That was on Donald's mind when
he got pressured up the middle and he stepped up

(08:15):
and he tried to jump past to Elijah Royo, and
Donald was trying to avoid the loss of five six
yards there that would have pushed them out of field
goal range and caused them either go for a fourth
and long or have to punt and lose a chance
of making a one score game again. He said he
was thinking about that, so when he jumped past it
it advisedly. He said, he saw a defender in his face,

(08:36):
so he couldn't see the defensive back behind the defensive
lineman who was standing right in front of a Royal
to intercept that pass, so he just never saw the guy.
Cooper Cup after the game explained that the Rams did
a really good job of switching their safety alignments from
at the snap to post snap. They were doing a
heavy box eight man in the box with the safety

(08:57):
down near the line of scrimmage to combat the Seahawks run,
and then at the snap off and they ran out
in that second safety. Often Kitchens who intercepted Donald twice,
ran from down in the box out to a double
high cover two look with two safeties deep. So the
Seahawks were running routes and Donald was making reads that

(09:18):
he thought was single high coverage when in fact it
was too deep. And two of his four interceptions are
directly to tensions in the middle of the field one
of those safeties who had been moved around the snap.
So credit Chris Shuller indirectly, that's what Cooper cup said.
Credit the rams, he said, But Chris Shula, the defensive coordinator,
for tricking Donald. I asked Donald specifically after the game

(09:40):
about that, the switching of safeties, and he said, yeah,
they did that. They did a good job of disguising
their show, meaning two safeties deep. But he said a
lot of teams in the league do that, and that
he has to be better playing and simple with taking
care of the ball and making decisions and seeing all that.
But so fights to say he got tricked, and no
NFL quarterback is going to directly throw the ball to

(10:02):
four guys in coveries or four interceptions unless he doesn't
quite understand what's going on in the coverages as he's saying.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Greig Bell is with us, our Seahawks insider.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
I'll play off in a little bit because that narrative
about who is the real Sam Donald was starting even
before the game, and I heard Mike McDonalds say afterwards, like, hey,
we like the way that he let it rip. I mean,
he made mistakes, he cost them the game with their
four interceptions. But I don't know if I ever saw
his confidence waiver. All the way up to the last drive,

(10:33):
he was still just letting it rip. I saw that
as encouraging.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
I don't come away from that loss like, oh, Sam
Donald can't win the big game, Sam Donald can't.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Beat the Rams.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
I just I just can't forget what happened leading up
to Sunday. I still like that Sam Donald is the
Seahawks quarterback Greg.

Speaker 10 (10:56):
Well, I hope so, because that's who he's they've got
for the next yeah games. At Leave, I did see
a little bit of frustration that I haven't seen in
Donald yet yesterday through the binoculars after the interceptions, while
the Rams are celebrating and the pyrotechnics are going off
in the Rams house and all that, I put my
binoculars on the.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
Quarterback to see what his reaction was, because he's been
renowned around the locker room for how steady and poise
he's been come hell or high water, good or bad.
Both after the third interception and after the fourth interception,
he walked straight to the sideline. He went straight to
the bench. Then he ripped his helmet off, snapped his
chin strap off pretty violently, and then slammed his helmet
at the top of the bench where the little knobs

(11:39):
are at the top for the where the helmets go.
He normally doesn't do that. Liutenant Wolsu walked up to
him after the third interception, so I asked, hi, Wols
in the locker room after the game, would you say
to him? And he said that we still got you.
That you guy us here, you were playing great all season.
We're built for this. Wols has said, we'll be fine,
We'll come back from this. Your one of us. We're

(12:00):
brothers here even more colorfully after the game and Ernest
Jones don't know if you caught that. Yeah, it's not great.
We can't the SEC won't let us forbade him quote down.
But he said that anyone who wants to. He said
that Donald has kept us in every freaking he didn't
say freaking game this season. And anyone that wants to
say anything about Sam Donald for throwing foreign interceptions, blank.

Speaker 7 (12:25):
You yeah, Live radio, my television from Los Angeles yesterday.
I thought they appeared with the Seahawks or was going
to just yake him off the stage with the gam
walk right out. But they wanted to be and Jones
purposely used such colorful language. They wanted to be clear
that they are.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
Going to support Donald and have his back because they
have to. He's their quarterback and they're not changing it.
But also because he has earned cachet with them, and
up until this point he wasn't any of what he
was yesterday. So the Sea Arks have to go with
that rather than yesterday. They can't say, well, this is
the guy, We're thinking this guy every time the game's
get tough. They're going to rally around him. He for

(13:07):
the next six games and frankly, he's probably going to
play great and they're probably going to boat race the
Titans in Tennessee. Titans are one and nine on Sunday
and they'll.

Speaker 7 (13:15):
Be eight and three.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
So the bigger picture, as Jones said, was we turned
the ball over four times and lost by two points
to the first place team in the NFC. We're gonna
be okay, is what he basically said. They just have
to fix the turnovers. Darnold now is tied for the
NFL with two Tigers lay with fourteen interceptions, fourteen turnovers,
ten ten interceptions and four fumbles. We talked about this, guys,

(13:39):
that he was the problem with ball security, was a
real hanking one, and now he's leading the league in turnovers.
That's yeah, that has to change, ye.

Speaker 9 (13:49):
What was the deal with the kind of the red
zone deficiency if you will. I mean, they got down
there a few times, they controlled the clock, and I'm
sure that they all felt good about the way they
move the ball against a tough RAMS team, and yet
they get down there in the red zone and ended
up having to settle for a like four field goal.
So what did they do wrong down there or was

(14:10):
it just a tip your cap to a good defense.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
Well, they screwed up. I mean, they played the end
of the first half perfectly, they had the ball. Come
out of the second half, they're trying to do the
two for one. They took up seven minutes and forty
seven seconds the last seven to forty seven of the
second quarter with that drive fifteen play drive eighty nine
yards all the way down there, and then they have
kicking a field goal. So that was not by design.

(14:35):
They were not supposed to be down fourteen to nine
at the half. After using it, they used all but
thirteen seconds of the second quarter clock of possession. The
Rams only had three plays for thirteen seconds in the
second quarter when they were about ready to blow the
game open up fourteen to three. So the Seahawks righted themselves.
But when they did that, they only had two field
goals out of those two fifteen and thirteen play drives

(14:56):
into the red zone. That's where they lost the game pragmatically,
even before the Foreig interception and then Donald's four interceptions
killed him. But if you get touchdowns there, of course,
that's eight points you needed in a two point loss.
Threes instead of sevens twice, that's eight points. I thought,
I think still, and I say it during the game

(15:18):
to myself and the guys next to me in the
press box that Kenneth Walker should be the short yard
or the goal line. Back to me, Zach Charboney runs
straight into the assigned hole or to the where he's
trying to get to, no matter how many guys are
standing in front of him. When he gets the ball,
Walker makes that first guy. Often makes that first guy miss.

(15:38):
He had a really good run in the second half
in the red zone by doing exactly that. He had
ninety one staring at his face when he got the handoff,
and he juked him outside of the right and turned
what should have been a five yard loss into a
six or seven yard game down to the goal line.
I'd keep Walker in for those plays. It just seems
like that's the more he can turn something nothing in

(16:00):
something far more than sharvening was. That was one problem,
and then the Rams just had better coverage when they
did have to go to the run because I thought
they limited themselves with running plays with Sharveting instead of Walker.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah, I'd be critical of the usage the way Walker
was used throughout the game. I think they went to
him consistently too late in the game. But that's a
topic for another time. So many other topics. I got
a million different things I want to ask you about,
but I got to use my last minute and a
half to find out what's going on. With Grey's Abel
because I'm happy to give away a loss here if
I'm a Seahawks fan. If I find out today the

(16:34):
Grey's Abel's going to be all right.

Speaker 6 (16:36):
Well, they don't know that yet. He's getting imaging today,
which means MRIs and to see if there's structural damage
in his knee. I will say this, as tough as
that guy is bush Light South Dakota hasn't been beaten
for a sack all year, trash talker and all pro
Hall of famers, all of that. To see him on
two knees with his face mask straight in the turf

(16:57):
as Kenneth Walker running the end zone told me that
he's pretty hurt, and then he needed help with two,
not one, but two assistants to shuffle into the sideline.
He got into the Blue ten and then got taken
straight into the locker room. It's a knee injury of
unknown severity. McDonald said on his way out of LA
yesterday evening, I mean, we're gonna quizz more this afternoon

(17:20):
on that, but it didn't look great. Christian Haynes came in.
He had just been activated off the injured reserve list
on Saturday. He's a backup guard that came in on Sunday.
He would be the odds on man to be the center,
to be the left guard. They are already missing Jalen Sondell,
whom they put on injured reserve on Saturday to make

(17:41):
roster room four Haynes. So now all of a sudden,
this offensive line that had been so good at protecting
Donald is missing two of its five starters.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, that's rough. All right, man.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Well, there, like I said, a million other things to discuss.
We'll have to dive into those on tomorrow's program.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Get some sleep. Thank you very much, We appreciate you,
and we'll talk to you then.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
Okay, Happy Monday, all right.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
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Speaker 8 (18:36):
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Speaker 3 (18:38):
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Speaker 3 (18:44):
All right?

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Factor Fiction with Bucky at seven thirty five. Coming up
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(19:09):
Brand New Week starts at seven thirty five this morning.
Bucky's pick today, so we'll get to that here in
a moment. Of course, we do have Seahawks on the
brain a loss yesterday to the Los Angeles Rams twenty
one to nineteen. We will resume our analysis of this game.
Coming up at seven forty five, we'll hear from Mike
McDonald and then, of course eight o'clock Monday morning, quarterback

(19:30):
gets underway. Hugh Millan will be under center. Mike Holmgren
will join the conversation at nine o'clock. So much to
break down, so we'll do it for two straight hours
starting at eight o'clock. But we have Monster Baseball News
today as well that we are dealing with. If you
haven't heard, I got good news everybody, that is good news.
Josh Naylor last night looks like he's going to be

(19:52):
the first major free agent to come to terms with
a team, and it's going to be with our team. Apparently,
as agreed to a five year contract that we don't
know exactly the dollar figures suggest yet my guess is
it's between ninety and one hundred million dollars. That seems
to be the educated guess that's floating around out there.

(20:14):
But the bottom line is that later on today he
should come to terms, make it official, sign the document,
and remain a Mariner for the next five seasons.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
And I know that makes everybody happy.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
That is good to us.

Speaker 9 (20:28):
Like you said, I mean, if they hadn't done this,
it's not like the offseason wouldn't have couldn't have still
been a success. But this was most certainly the hallmark,
the hallmark move that they needed to make. We can say, Okay, Geno.
I mean, I love Geno as a dude, a clubhouse guy,
and I love the fact that he can know hit

(20:49):
forty fifty home runs for you, But I also don't
think it's a necessity that you bring him back. I
think you could roll with Ben Williamson to see how
that turns out. Could possibly do something else over there,
but to me, it was first base.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
You didn't have anybody waiting in the wings. You don't.

Speaker 9 (21:06):
There isn't somebody that's like Josh Naylor. Josh Naylor is
not going to do Aaron Judgy and things, Well, nobody is.
I mean, he's not going to be the.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Best steal the MVP from Calm.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, he's definitely not going to do that.

Speaker 8 (21:19):
Yeah, garbage.

Speaker 9 (21:21):
He's not this crazy, over the top stat guy. But
he's just a ballplayer. I mean, the way that he
plays the game is something that you need. I mean,
I genuinely think that the best teams out there you
have to have at least one guy like this, if
not a full lineup full of them. So I mean,
if they can figure out a way to get this

(21:42):
thing done, which it sounds like it is pretty much
done to you, Oh that's great news.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I told my wife last night. She was super pumped. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Well, I remember when the trade went down and soft
he had me on and Hugh happened to be co
hosting with him that day. And I've referenced this a
couple of times, but I think it's relevant to bring
up again, and Hugh asked about the possibility of a
long term deal. And when you don't watch Josh Naylor,
but you know of Josh and you see him here

(22:08):
and there, you play him against them in the series,
and you see there's RBI run production. You see the
energy that he plays with, the focus that he plays with,
but you don't appreciate it until you get to see
the guy every single day. So my reaction was, Yeah,
he's got kind of a bad body. I don't know
if they brought him here necessarily to keep him long term.

(22:30):
I think it is to use him for the stretch drive,
which they certainly did. But then once you're around him
every day, I mean, you realize everything that he brings
to the table and how you don't even care if
he has a bad body because he's one of the
slowest runners in the league and stole thirty bases this year.

(22:53):
He did not get caught stealing in a Mariner uniform.
Had like twenty stolen bases in two months for us.
The footwork base, how he's like a ballet dancer over
there at first base to make sure the feet are
in the right place. He saved a lot of Arrant
throws down the stretch, and so he doesn't need to

(23:13):
be the greatest athlete in the world. He doesn't need
to have the best body in the world, not when
you play as smart as he plays. So at the time,
I didn't think that it was important that he signed
long term when we made that trade, just as long
as he's here for twenty twenty five and can get
us into the playoffs and give us a run at
the World Series. But after you were exposed to him

(23:34):
for just a few games, you're like, no, we got
to keep this guy. This guy's got to be a
long term commitment.

Speaker 9 (23:39):
Yeah, there's nothing about the way in which this guy
plays that you can't like if you're if you're a
fan of baseball. I mean, it's just the term a
baseball player or a ballplayer that is kind of the
best pat on the back that you can get. And
I mean it's even before we had him, I was like,
that's what you need. I mean, I've watched just about
every single pitch of this Mariner's team for the last

(24:02):
better part of this decade, and and yet it's grit
is one of the things that I think it has
lacked and I think that this guy brings that I
mean in full.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yeah, grit and flash last years dresser and yet the
grittiest guy on the team.

Speaker 8 (24:15):
It's a great combo.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
It's a very rare come.

Speaker 8 (24:18):
Yeah, I like it because he's different.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah, doesn't happen a lot, and he's hours for the
next five years, and we couldn't be happier.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
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Speaker 3 (24:48):
All right, how do we do this week three and two?
All right, we'll take that.

Speaker 8 (24:53):
Yeah they want Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, we'll take the We'll take a three take.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
On the Broncos game. Thanks that taste, dick.

Speaker 8 (25:01):
Yeah, I got mocked by the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Actually doesn't know enough about it. Yeah, you don't know, right.

Speaker 8 (25:09):
That's right, you mock me, that's right. I'll call up the.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Bracast straight up against Ashley's pick.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Nice on the same day too, So we all got
one right this week he did and Buckey was one
and oh so he picks twice this week, which means
he's up today.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
So where are we going to go with today's factor fiction?

Speaker 9 (25:27):
I basically I go with who's playing a crap team?
And a crap team is the Cardinals. Now they're going
to against Jaguars. Jaguars could also be crap on any
given week, but it's a point and a half. I
don't mind laying a point and a half at the Cardinals' feet.
I think as well as Brissett's been playing, I think
the Jaguars are a team that they get after the quarterback,

(25:49):
which forces turnovers. It makes it an uncomfortable day. If
they show up and play the way that they're capable of,
I think they kind of recognize that if they want
to win this thing or get into the playoffs, it's
time to go. And I think they'll do it against Cardinals.
So I'm taking the Jaguars minus one and a half
at the Cardinals.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
The Jaguars are like that buddy you had in high
school where he's constantly like getting into trouble and you're
having to like apologize for him and then.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
After a couple of months, you're like, see, I think
he's turned a new corner.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
He's fine, he's really grown up, he's learned a lot
of lessons. And then you get a call at late
night and he's robbed a bank. That's the Jaguars for you.
I mean, you want to like them, you want to
believe that they've turned the corner, and maybe they have
this time, but you just can't trust them.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (26:37):
Yeah, I don't necessarily trust them, but it's only a
point and a half. It really is me more so
just not believing in the Cardinals. I think that the
Cardinals will at some point in time just kind of
roll over if you if you push them to that.
You know, maybe it's only a quarter, maybe it's a
half a football. At some point, if you push them,
they'll just eventually roll over and ask you to rub
their bellies.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
All right.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
So Jacksonville at Arizona, Yep, you're laying a point and
a half.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
So Bucky says the Jaguars win by two points or
more against the Cardinals this week. If you agree with
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(27:24):
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(27:49):
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Speaker 8 (28:02):
Fixed three more weeks after this week, counting this week.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, so mar Left, step it up.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
If you're in the running, you know you gotta play
every single time, and boy, it really pays off to
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(28:29):
if you disagree to four, nine, four or five one,
your next chance to play comes at eleven thirty five
this morning, with Mark James and Christopher Kid Coming up. Next,
we'll here from Mike McDonald about yesterday's lost to the Rams.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R FM.

Speaker 11 (28:52):
Rams are a really good team and we knew going
into the game we need to be able to capitalize
on scoring opportunities in the red zone. We knew we
were gonna obviously to take care of the football, and
I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 12 (29:03):
We took it away once on defense.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
And Mike McDonald after yesterday's lost and Hugh Millin's getting
ready to break it all down for starting at eight o'clock.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Mike Homberd will join the conversation at nine as well.
Monday Morning Quarterback. A lot to discuss.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
I mean, there's so many things we haven't even gotten to,
but I think that is the main theme, at least
it was for me.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
It's what I started with. I mean, you lose the
turnover battle four to one.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
You have a situation in which you you know, yeah,
you had a punt go out of the bounds that
one yard line that you had to overcome with the
game on the line, and you still found a way
on the road against a truly great team. I mean
both sides of the ball, and you had a chance
to win the game with a long field goal. Who

(29:52):
knows how shorter it could have been had you not
started at the one yard line on that drive.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
And so yeah, it's it's.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
A law, and you don't want to lose to a
division opponent. And Sam Darnold threw four interceptions yesterday. But
if I'm Mike McDonald, I'm I'm kind of thinking on
my way home, we're the best team in the division.
That's that's my mindset. That's what I saw yesterday.

Speaker 9 (30:12):
They're definitely not thinking they're not in the in the
same class by any stretch. You end up losing and
now you're a game back in the division. I think,
you know, Greg was mentioning how they were all saying,
we can't wait to see these guys again, understandably, So
I mean, I think it's a you lost it.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
I don't know for sure the way in which the
game went.

Speaker 9 (30:33):
Where you gave up that pick, and I mean you
stopped them, and then the pick and then they score
touchdown another one. Next thing, you know, they have two
touchdowns in the first quarter. You're like, ooh, And yet
the defense stepped up and they confused the Rams offense
to some degree. I just think it was a It
was a game in which usually if your most important position,

(30:53):
your most important player throws four picks, you're not typically
going to have an opportunity to win the game at
the end. And they did that to me, says speaks
volumes about how good the Seahawks team is.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Well, let's hear from coach about Sam Donald's four picks.

Speaker 12 (31:06):
Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. It's probably a
combination of multiple things.

Speaker 11 (31:09):
So we'll get it, attack it, and figure out what
we can do to you know, not put the ball
in jeopardy.

Speaker 12 (31:18):
But that's why he told that.

Speaker 11 (31:20):
Given everything happened, you know, you get pinned back at
the one yard line. It's a heck of a punt
by the guy, and we just kept battling, and Sam
put his position to possibly win the game.

Speaker 12 (31:28):
So we'll look at it and learn from it.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah, I mean he played a bad game. I mean
it wasn't just the four picks. See under threw Shheed
on a surefire touchdown in the end zone at one point.
He didn't play a good game. And part of that
is the mistakes. The encouraging thing to me and why
I'm not sitting here on Monday morning as a Monday
morning quarterback and yelling at the moon. See he can't

(31:54):
win the big one Rams got his number is because
I didn't see somebody. I didn't see a quarterback that
was rattled or shaken. To me, he was still just
slinging it around the field as he has all game long,
and he got his hand caught in the cookie jar
one time too many. I watched Jared Goff play against
Philadelphia Eagles last night. He looked cold, looked like he

(32:14):
didn't want to be out there. Couldn't throw an accurate
pass to save his life. Meanwhile, Sam Darnold, despite all
the crap that went down yesterday, all the bad plays,
the minus plays as Hugh calls them, that went down,
give me the ball. I let a touchdown drive in
the fourth quarter, and had I had ten more seconds
or wouldn't have started the ball at the one yard line,

(32:36):
I think I could have got Myers.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Into position to win the game with a field goal.

Speaker 9 (32:39):
I just think the only he's obviously going to beat
himself up, just you know, to some degree as the
game wears. On his third interception, Greg was talking about
he started showing some reaction again with the fourth.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Well, yeah, I would hope that there's some sort of
like DM.

Speaker 8 (32:54):
I agree, he just wanted to sideline and act like
next time.

Speaker 9 (32:59):
I'd yeah, so obviously you know there's something there, I mean,
and he's not happy with it. I think on the
flip side of it, I think the fact that they
they moved the ball and got down into the red
zone multiple times, I think that I would be more
frustrated if I was on that staff, or if I

(33:20):
was Matthew Stafford, of being able to do that against
a really good defense and then you couldn't solve the
riddle of them in the red zone. There are good
red zone defense. Statistically, they're one of the best. They
might be second, I think in the entire NFL of
red zone defense not allowing touchdowns and yet this offense.
Even though they sputtered or or shouldn't say sputtered, even

(33:42):
though they gave the ball away four different times, or
Sam Darnold did, they still had opportunities and they couldn't
do anything except for cashing with four field goals that
I think, you know, just one of those opportunities. You
turn into it and you're not needing to kick a
sixty one field goal to sixty one yard field goal
to win.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Shoot guys, your fingers again.

Speaker 8 (34:04):
All right? You know what, I got a better plan
next time.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Got he darted. They couldn't see him in those black
unis right.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
I didn't mind them at all.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
They actually looked pretty good, much much better on TV
than you did in those photos they posted lost.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
I still don't get the sleeves, the blue sleeves, the
keeping the same color.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
If they had just gone midnight blue, I think it
would have looked even better. But no, I thought they
actually were pretty sharp. We didn't get through a lot
in our first couple of hours. I don't know where
he was gonna go in his couple of hours with us,
but I do want to just kind of rip through
a few things. Even though I missed the sixty one
yard field goal. I mean, Jason Myers kind of kept

(34:40):
you in the game by making all of those field
goals yesterday. That was one of the hardest hits I've
ever seen in my life watching football. When ty Reese
Knight on that special team's play, crack that dude and
both of them got up. I thought they were both done,
and they both got up on one of the hardest
hits I've ever seen in football. Sharbon Ay, what a

(35:02):
great catch he had in the game, lying on the turf.
That was phenomenal. Jsn's one handed catch. He had another
one hundred yard game. We haven't talked about that. Aj
Barner's kind of his best game as a pro. Caught
ten balls. Did finally get denied on the Bardner's sneak
for the first time this year, but he had a
ten catch day. We haven't talked much about that. I
thought Kobe Bryant played a great game. I thought Nuosu

(35:24):
had a very good game. I thought Rik Wallan, who
I pointed out as one of my keys going into
this game, I thought he really stepped up. Devanta Adams
had one catch YEP for one yard and it was
a touchdown. But it was one catch for one yard.

Speaker 8 (35:38):
Call her up.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
I got to call your call her out.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
Because that's two really costly penalties in two weeks, and
you can't do that as a scrub, So you better
clean that up. I thought that they went late to Walker,
too late. I thought Clint Kubiak was messing around too
much with Halani and sharbon Ay, and I think he
went too late to just committing to Ken Walker being
our running back. I have a feeling Hugh might have

(36:01):
something to say about that. And I thought that Mike
McDonald did a tremendous job of just confusing Matt Stafford
after the first quarter. I don't know how many throws
he had were he had nowhere to throw and he
just dirted it or threw it away. I mean, that
guy's been completing about eighty percent of his passes this year.
Not against a Mike McDonald defense. He had him flustered yesterday. Now,

(36:24):
he didn't make the terrible mistake like our guy did
four times, but he certainly didn't. I mean, he certainly
had his roughest day at the office so far this year.
We'll ask Hugh about it and about everything else coming
up on the other side, it's chucking Buck. Sports Radio
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