November 17, 2025 • 35 mins
MMQB is underway with HUGH MILLEN breaking down the Hawks loss to the Rams. - We start with a look at the 4 Sam Darnold interceptions. :30- Did Mike MacDonald’s defense confuse Matthew Stafford? The battle between McVay and MacDonald lived up to the hype. :45- We wrap up the first hour off MMQB with Hugh and get his thoughts on if Sam Darnold is the right guy for this job after struggling in another big game.
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Grin and Hugh Millin. Here's Chuck and Buck.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Mike old Gridle join us at nine o'clock. Hugh Millan
with us here for the next couple of hours. Are
QB one is becoming fresh off a loss in Los
Angeles to the Rams, the final score of twenty one
to nineteen. Ashley Ryan's here, Bucky Jacobson. My name is
Chuck Pollowey. Now welcome or QB one. Hugh Millan too
the radio program This Morning. Good morning, Hugh, Good morning,
(01:16):
How are you great?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So much to discuss.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I would imagine we'll spend a lot of time on
Sam donald's four interceptions, and I would imagine we'll spend
a lot of time on Mike McDonald's defense and how
well it adjusted after that early start by Matt Stafford.
So where does it start though, with Hugh Millan, where's
the conversation begin?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Well, I just think it's a really disappointing that, you know,
everybody on that football team was ready to play, and
I'm not going to say Sam Donald wasn't, but but
you saw the defense, the goal line stand, you know,
to start the game, and they just played with great intensity.
And you know, for the Seahawks to have four interceptions,
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for Sam Donald to have four interceptions, I mean since
two thy and ten, there have been teams one hundred
and five occasions when a quarterback or a team had
exactly four interceptions the team with foreign interceptions, and I
chose twenty ten. It's a round number. It's the first year.
John Schneider the team with foreignerceptions is seven and ninety eight.
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If you and that's just all teams and the and
the average score, you can expect it to be thirty
one to fifteen to lose the game versus teams that
are five hundred are better. Now it goes to three,
your three wins versus fifty eight eight losses. And the
Rams came into yesterday having won seventy eight percent of
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their games for the year. If you filter that and say, oh,
you got you're gonna you're gonna throw four interceptions against
a team that has a win percentage of seventy five
percent of more, I go back to the beginning of
the century. You're one in forty nine. I don't even
have to drag a calculator to know that you got
a two percent chance to win that game. That's what
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you told Mike Donald, Mike McDonald before. If you'd have
told them before, hey, you're gonna have to overcome foreign interceptions,
you got a two percent chance. And damn it, they
almost did it. With with all of that calamity, they
almost did it. And and it took some real you know, uh,
prayers on the behalf of the Rams in some sense
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in the kicking game, uh, that that Seattle didn't win
that game after having you know, uh dominated them and
in yours uh and in time of possession. So I
think just really unfortunate for the entire football team that
the quarterback had that kind of game in uh in
this in this situation.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Was it all bad throws, bad decisions?
Speaker 6 (03:52):
To me?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
I mean, I could be completely wrong. It felt like
there was like a little bit of a hesitation which
allowed a couple of those the guys to jump in
front of them, or was there some sort of scheme
or you know, moving guys around hiding coverages that mixed
him up.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Well, you know, there's a lot going on on all
four of them. But you know, the first one, you're
facing a mann, a man with just a four man rush.
That means there's an opportunity for an extra hole player,
got a post safety. The quarterback's going to see that
free safety. But then the other safety he's gonna come
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down into the low safety that's Kitchens. But originally Kitchens
lined up to present kind of a too high to
Sam Donald's right, as if he was over the top
of JSN. JSN was running a go route and for
all of his attributes. He doesn't have great long speed,
so it would there wasn't much separation. But you look
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on the left side, Donald ends up throwing to Cooper Cup.
Cooper Cup was standing on the twenty yard line and
he's getting pressed by fourteen co Durant. You tell a receiver, hey,
if you're held up, shortened up, And yet it's right
there on the tape. Cooper Cup goes from all the
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way to the thirty nine yard line. That's a nineteen
yard curl after having been jammed at the line of scrimmage.
That is just way too deep. So Darnold's looking at him.
And then you have other issues with the Here you
got Oloa Timmy, who's thought to be the better run blocker,
not pass blocker. And because you have to take Gray's
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abel and help him with Charles Cross against Jared Verse,
now you have the the unwanted situation where both guards
are fanning. The right guards going to his right, the
left guard's going to his left, and ol Timmy is
just matched up with no help, and so he gets
overrun and and he's right back in the pocket, so
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he takes a quick l and and then you have
things like the running back. You've got K nine. In
man to man you would on a checkdown over the ball.
You you can't just stop. You got you want a
coach to move left or right. And I'm not saying
I'm putting it on K nine. I'm just throwing on
the tape and saying there's a lot of things that
are going wrong on that play for the Seattle Seahawks.
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Standpoint and Sam Donald, look, it's first down. He uh,
he's he's got to know that he's eyeballing him. It's
bad timing. But Kitchens is able to read his eyes
and come on and get the interception on the on
the second one. The problem really is that as you progress,
the more you progress through the sequence of these, the
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worse it gets. For Jays for excise me, for Sam
Darnald on the on the third quarter, on third and nine,
he's throwing the the what's called the Oak route against
cover four. There's no disguise just for for across. But
here's the thing. On an Okie route for decades and
even even today, you see teams the you line up
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with your inside leg forward and you're outside back, and
and teams will do this and the and and thus
you have your third inside step is the sixth step.
And that's how the timing works. So when when J.
S N puts his inside leg back, that means his
he's gonna go a seventh step instead of a sixth step.
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So Donald is waiting on that. That's helping the corner
to squat. And that's the detail. You say, well, does
that really matter? Yeah, it really matters. It's the NFL
inches matter. Details matter, and and uh and and by
the way, uh, you have h H. Bradford there on
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a stunt just you know, just really pour the right
guard just you have a total free runner into Donald that.
I mean Donald threw that on two The NFL tabulated
at two point one seconds. Uh that on that second interception.
By the way, the first one had been three point
four on the one to Arroyo. As it gets worse,
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the you know, that was on a first and twenty
after a penalty. But you're you're only down fourteen to twelve.
You're down two points in the third quarter, and I
don't know, I just look at that and the balls
on the right hash you're trying to get two verticals.
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They're rolling over the top of jas onto the right
side kitchens. He turns his hips to the sideline as
if he's gonna defend the whole shot, which would be
the line drive go route up the right sideline. But
the window just somehow. This is the part about quarterback.
This is why quarterbacking is difficult, because you have to
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see it before it happens. The window. You got to
anticipate that window. And you look and you say, by
NFL standards, somehow, some way, there's got to be a
flash in his brain that says red light, red light.
It's like, I'm my my tight end isn't clearing the
underneath coverage, arroyo. The safety is in a position to
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bang on there, and you know, and just the yes,
uh a slight hesitation, but that that was that that
that that's all. These are double minuses and you know
and I when I look at that. So they're playing
a cover six. They're rolling on the uh the coverage
to the right, to the right side to to UH
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J s N on the left side. We're on the right,
we're on the on the left side. Rather, we've got
the new receiver that uh heat and he's running the
out route and so they're away from the rotation, and
you got to just say, look if you don't, if
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you don't want to throw that, then we either got
we shouldn't have spent a fourth and a fifth rounder
to get him, or we got to get a new court.
I know it's the wide side of the field, but
you one from shotgun one, two, three, put your foot
in the ground and rip that thing to the far
side of the field because that's what they're where the
coverage is telling you to go. And so so you know,
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again that's a double minus. And then on the on
the third and three, I mean, okay, yeah, you're down
or you're down nine points, but a field goal at
that point, if we just dirt the ball, if we
just dirt the ball, we're having it. We're trying a
fifty four yard field goal.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Is it a gimme?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
No? But Myers had already made a fifty seven yarder.
So now you if you dirt the ball, you got
your you're kicking. I'm not saying you're getting the three
points because because your fifty four yards is not a layup,
but you got a chance at least and and so
uh on that one there, that's a situation where they
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they disguise the coverage. They end up in what's called
a two invert cover two invert. So to Sam Darl's right,
there's gonna be safety over the top and a corner
in the flat. But the invert part, what what why
do you tag that invert? That's because to his left
the corner instead of playing a corner, he's gonna run
and he's gonna play the safety the way you would
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see in a in a in a two deep a
cover two defense with one safety and any left. But
it's the corner and then the linebacker is gonna buzz
out in the flat. A recognition by Darnold would have
had j San on A on an intermediate outbreaking route,
a kind of a short sail to his left, but
by the kind he kind of misses it there. And
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that one he had good protection. The other ones not
not as much. But uh, you know in the in
the window royal, the earlier one, the seam, I mean
there's a guy in his face. The NFL had had
that at two point six seconds he's trying to throw
out of a well. So so when you talk about
the different factors, uh, yeah, there there's there's scheming there's
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protection issues, what have you. There's miss reads and and
uh and so he he doesn't he doesn't recognize the
two invert and that he would have an opportunity to
get JSN out on the left. And then he comes back,
you know, looking for an outlet and to try and
get you know, a vert of sack and doesn't see
a guy and and and then there you have another interception.
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So so uh, you know, that's kind of the nuts
and bolts of it. There's more on my notes, but
but you'd probably get the point. Yeah, well, four interceptions,
that's the that's the point of it all. Humilanis with
us here on Monday morning quarterback. And it wasn't just
the interceptions, unless Greg Olsen and I both got confused
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by it. He also missed what looked to be a
sure fire touchdown. I mean, yeah, Forbes made a nice
recovery and swats the ball away from Rashid Shaheed, but
there was that drive where you had to settle for
your fourth field goal of the day, and a bad
hold by caller up and then a looked like an
underthrow to me from Darnold kept Shaheed from scoring a
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touchdown that would have been put you up at that point. Yeah,
single safety, nobody over the top. It's just it's press. Uh,
there's zoning an uh inside but that you know, it's
the equivalent of man to man. And and some people
say you got to put more touch on it. I
think for some quarterbacks when you go press cut, when
you when you have a bump and run, also term press.
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I'm using those terms synonymously. A lot of quarterbacks like
to have a lower trajectory because you can get the
ball on him soon. You don't have your brain doesn't
have to calculate leading the receiver as much, so you
kind of throw it on a lower line. I mean
I I used to marvel. All the announcers would say,
oh man, you got to put and you've got to
put air on that. And and I played both with
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and against Dan Marino for the Dolphins and with the
Patriots against him, and man, that dude would would if
he had press coverage, he would he would line drive
that thing up the sideline to Mark Duper and those guys.
And I mean the ball didn't get more and ten
feet off the ground, and and he says, look, I
can be more accurate that way. So I don't have
a problem with the trajectory. It just he didn't throw
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it far enough. It's real simple, you know. I mean
that one is say sometimes the cigar is just a cigar,
and he underthrew himself thought farther.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Yeah, I mean, was there things that you saw that
Sam or just offensively, maybe it was play calls that
that helped the kind of stagnation of the offense when
they got down in the red zone, because settling for
four field goals obviously just one of those things changes
and you find yourself in a different thing at the
ball game at the end of the ball game too.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah, well, I think a couple of things in the
red zone. You know, there was only where I got
my red zone. I got a entire notes for the
red zone.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
The couple things there were. I think they were a
little bit conservative on both first down runs. On the
first two they they didn't they just ran the ball
to Hallani Hallani yards.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
I knew that.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
And then and then and then we got, you know,
for another first down and you know, given to Charbonne
for no gain. So and then when you look at
all of the plays, how many times did they throw
to the end zone. Uh, with a legitimate chance they didn't.
There was just I didn't think that they were running
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concepts that that allowed for multiple guys in the end zone.
You know, Uh, we're gonna have coach home grin on here.
You know, there's a lot a lot of people. Coach, Hey,
I'm gonna give you some uh two or three opportunities
touchdown or checkdown. I'm gonna give you some opportunities with
somebody in the back of the end zone. So we
throw it high in the back of the end zone,
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we throw it low in the front of the end zone,
and and there just wasn't a lot of opportunities, so
there ended up being checkdowns because there may be be
one or nobody in the end zone. And and I
think that as we're talking about the uh the different
elements of it, excluding the last two drives on neutral
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downs that's define his first and ten or second and
six or less, the Seahawks ran the ball twenty times
and only threw it eleven outside of those last two drives,
when obviously the clock dictated you had to throw so
so that that was manifested. I think there was a
conservativism that that that I didn't love and and certainly
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in the red zone that played out, but uh yeah,
you got you got to hit that. I mean, there's
a you get the duo play. Duo is just double
teams at the point of attack. You don't have a
backside poller. And so so that that the running back
has got to he's got to read the middle linebacker
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because you're going to be slow to get to him.
And if you have an opportunity to bounce, you got
to bounce. Kenny Walker ran that beautifully, just absolutely perfect.
And I'll tell you what. If that was holding, then
I'm just gonna say there's ninety nine holdings per play
because that was the week. Now there was the other one.
I saw a Gray's abel on a on a third
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down and he was arm and and Anthony Bradford. There
was a lot of times where there should have been holding,
so I guess it all evens out. But on that that, uh,
that holding was a very weak holding. And and you know,
so you just have all these situations where you go, okay,
that missing the go route to see heat, that's a
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four point miss. The holding call is a four point
holding call. You know, not being able to punch in
I mean when you're you know, at one point you
had first and goal at the seven after the barner
tuss push. Gotta hate to use that term, and I
hate to see the play, but but uh, you know,
credit the Rams because they uh, you know, they just
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cover guys up well. And then and then when they didn't,
there was a time on a checkdown, they ran on
a third down, they ran JSN on on a fade
to uh to Donald's right, and then it was a
trips left overload. And there's a term called flanker drive,
very very ubiquitous. Mike Holman's probably called that play ten
thousand times flanker drive where you have you have Cooper
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Cup on a shallow crossing, you got an intermediate in route,
and then they had a follow by the second tight
end barner and it can be hard to sort that
out when especially when they had a running back to
the swing. Anyways, they had a really nice concept and
we've seen Donald when he's had the time, you know,
whistle through his progression and that would have been a
walk in touchdown. But that was a play where Gray's
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abel got beat and Donald had to do that lway
spin and and you know, now once once you know
you're fifteen yards behind the goal line, the chance of
getting a completion and running to your left, he just
had to you know, throw it to the cheerleaders and
kick a field goal. So yeah, it was it was.
It was really key, you know, those three opportunities that
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you had to score touchdowns and you got Instead of
twenty one, you got nine. So there's a lot of
different areas you can say, well, there's your game. Yep.
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It's Chuck, Buck and Ashley with you here on this
Monday as we react along with our experts to yesterday's
twenty one nineteen loss in Los Angeles to the Rams.
The Seahawks bad day for Sam Donald. Four interceptions in
the game. We highlighted or lowlighted those in our first
segment with our.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
QB one, Hugh Millen.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
But I do want to highlight something here, Hugh. I
do want to get your take because I thought, and
maybe maybe I'm, you know, drinking the kool aid. Maybe
I'm the local guy that's given the local head coach
too much credit. But I thought Mike McDonald sort of
confused Matt Stafford, who's one of the toughest guys to
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confuse in the National Football League. I mean, other than
handing him seven points in the first quarter and then
they had one touchdown drive. The entire game felt to
me like matt Stafford was giving up on an awful
lot of plays because he just had nowhere to throw.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
How did you see it? Yeah, that's exactly how I
saw it.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I think that.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
We've talked a lot about how Mike McDonald was brought
into battle, you know, on a chess board with Sean
McVay and Kyle shanahan, and we're talking about the Rams
today and I'll just say this, Mike McDonald is winning
those matchups. And if you don't agree with me, we're
gonna have to meet under a freeway behind the railroad tracks,
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and only one of us is coming out alive. And
I'm not saying it's gonna be me, but you're you're
you're gonna have blood either way, because if you look
at that Matthew Stafford in the last two years, he's
gone against twenty head coaches, and his completion percentage against
Mike McDonald's fifty three and a half percent, that's twentieth
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out of twentieth. His yards per tempt five point one,
twentieth out of t twenty coaches okay yards per game
one hundred and seventy four. That's eighteenth, third down conversions
fifteen point eight percent, eighteenth, passer rating nineteenth. So uh,
and then you know similar numbers for Sean McVay if
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you if you throw out the JV game that in
Week eighteen, that nobody had any but anything to play
for last year. So there's been two matchups. Remember now,
last year in Seattle, the in regulation, the Rams only
scored thirteen points against the defense. It was Gino Smith
game up one hundred and six yard pick six and
essentially that's what you saw yesterday with the pick down
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to the three yard line. And so there was just
thirteen points last year. So Sean McVay, if we're going
coaching matchups, you've got if you just following upon or
a kickoff, if you if you can just do that,
you have the Seahawks only whowing one point one eight
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points per drive. That's eighteenth out of twenty. That's that's
less than half of what the forty nine ers give
up for a fifty yard field or more. If the
Seahawk defense has a half a field or more to defend,
they are only allowing to the Rams one point five
points per drive. Again, that's eighteen and the only one
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who did better was in a weird game an Tony
Pierce with the head coach of the Raiders. So I
promise you Matthew Stafford wants no part of Mike McDonald
and Sean McVay. Is is that rascal? Holy cow? So, yeah,
there was a matchup. It was big time, it was anticipated,
it was discussed. We've seen two of them now and uh,
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you know, but for the offense given a three point field,
excuse me, a three yard field and a twenty five
yard field, there's only one long touchdown, you know. So
I see it exactly the way you do.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Early on the broadcast was harping on the idea of
McVeigh switched some stuff up with their personnel, their thirteen
personnel where they were instead of spreading it out the
way that he did when he first came into the
league and was getting all the accolades he was that
he had done some stuff and it did look like
it was working. Did you see some sort of adjustment
that McDonald made to where it was pretty much non
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existent or it wasn't working the same the rest of
the way.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Yeah, Well, First of all, going into the game of
the last three games the Rams, the NFL average is
you get twelve yards per game out of thirteen personnel.
The second place team was fifty yards per game. The
Rams were first at one hundred and sixty yards per
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game out of thirteen personnel. So what did what happened?
What happened yesterday? They had eighteen plays forty nine yards
two point seven yards per play. And in the passing game,
where excuse me, where Stafford had had eight touchdowns in
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the last three games. In that Stafford goes three for
six for four yards. Now he did get a touchdown
out of that group, but but again four yards in
the passing game. So so what he saw there was
a mixture of nickel and dime, and and certainly they're
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not going to play dime against the thirteen personnel. The thirteen,
for those who don't know, that's one running back, three
tight ends, and one receiver. And so you've got guys
like Emon Worry who uh you know, he's he's got
the length even though he's a dB, he can he
can run, and Olcatta's coming down heel though the safeties
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were really firing hard and kind of almost disavowing play action, saying,
screw that you had. Ernest Jones had had on two
long runs, he had got out of a gap on
a lead. He was supposed to be in the B
gap on the inside edge of the B gap because
Emon Warrey was on the outside, So they gave up
thirty something yards on that run. And then on a
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stretch play where he was in the same gap with
Leonard Williams, he should have been in a C gap
one gap over. He admitted it. It's clear on the tape.
But then all of a sudden they just button that up.
And then they had been hurt by tight end screens
in the first quarter, and now you literally see the
first play of the second quarter, Okata just he literally
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throws to the ground on the of the intended tight end.
He just not throws him because that would have been illegal,
but but just Jackson and the dude falls down. They
were just totally ready for it. So everything that they
had seen in the first quarter and that had burned them,
they made the adjustments. They played more man to man
for a while. They were more active in the set
from second quarter beyond in terms of the pressures that
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they were bringing the simulated pressures. And what I really like,
because we discussed it last week, is that I liked
that they were coming off of Matthew Stafford's right side
as a right handed quarterback, which causes him to go
to his left. That's a win. There's been times I go, oh,
coach McDonald, that is such a beautiful blitz. Why are
you doing it from the left side, because now we
just lost contain a right handed quarterback ran away from
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it and was able to get a completion and a conversion.
And so I thought that that, you know, just in
every way that I mean the numbers I gave him
to you.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
You saw the tape, the idea that you could take
a team at rioting as high as the rams and
you could be that damn close after having four interceptions.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
It's a testimony to the rest of the football team.
It's a testimony in the defense and the scheming of it.
And so I don't know, Yeah, just unfortunate, but also
a lot to like.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
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Speaker 7 (28:21):
We''s seeing twice a year, possibly three. And to me,
it's like who evolves best from game to game, who
learns from it, who grows the most. He is gonna
get the advantage every time we play, but every time
we play it's been an absolute knockdown, track out fight.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Mike McDonald after last night's lost to the Los Angeles
Rams twenty one nineteen.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Mike Homber will join us at nine o'clock. We got
Hugh Millan here our QB one for the rest of
the hour.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
And we got him right in the right in the
crosshairs to ask him some really blistering questions here. So, Hugh,
we did talk about Sam Darnold's four interceptions is off game,
and really I think he'd raise his hand and say
I cost us that game. I think that we can
all sort of accept that. That said, there was a
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narrative that started last week nationally, and you even touched
upon it on Friday about you know, maybe Sam Donald's
not cut out for these big games and these big
moments and these huge matchups and great defenses like he
faced on Sunday. What is your thought after watching Sam
struggles Sunday about just big picture if he's the right
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guy for this job.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Well, I think for me, what I was trying to
say Friday is it's a bigger game for Sam Donald
than any of the other principles. It's gonna matter more
like if if Mike McDonald had a bad game, I
don't think people are gonna say, well, he's not a
good defensive coach. Certainly Matthew Stafford had you know, he
did have a bad game. You know, even if he
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had thrown four picks, he's still going the Hall of Fame,
right and on and on. Sean McVay is still going
to be thought. But I think that there's enough I
don't say lack of data in these circumstances that there
was a thought that, you know, what does this mean
for Donald? His last memory. Of course, he was with
the Vikings, but it was a playoff lost to the Rams.
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It was ugly for not not really for Sam Donald
as much as the entire Viking offense. They took nine sacks.
I think the week before against the Lions it was
it was more ugly in that regard. And he's getting questions.
He's getting questions in pre production meetings, he's from the
national guy, he's getting questions locally, and and so I
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think it's I think it's tough. I still believe in
the guy. He's looked too good and won too many games,
But excuse me, these next four games, he could be
the NFC Player of the Week and everybody's gonna just say, yeah, well, well,
let's see what happens on December eighteenth. Yeah, guys, that's
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when the Rams come into town. And until December eighteenth,
there's nothing he can really do to rehabilitate himself in
the eyes of those critics.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Yeah, well, I mean when it comes to the running backs,
I mean, you guys were discussing a little bit. You
want to go deeper into the reason why or what
you think about the fact that Ken Walker's not even
getting what half of the carries out there.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
The reason why I'm a little bit flummex But just
let me say this. In my opinion, I think Canine
is the running back. Period into story for me. Let
me see if I can convince you there are twenty
nine running backs who have one hundred or more rush attempts.
As Bill Parcel said, you know, you know how you
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find who's a good running back hand on the ball
and see who gets yards. And so Canine is at
four and a half yards per attempts. Starbony is at
three point three. When you go buy sixcess. There's different
ways to hit this when you go buy success full,
which is, you know, forty percent of the needed yards
on first down, sixty percent of the needed yards on second,
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and all of the needed yards on third or fourth.
Sharbonna has a slight advance forty four point eight percent
to forty four point one percent, but that does not
offset the following in explosive run percent. The NFL has
these stats twelve plus yards. You have can Canine at
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ten point three percent. He's sixth in the NFL. The
percentage of the plays that become explosive. Zach Sarbina is
dead last twenty nine, out of twenty nine guys, only
three point eight percent turned into explosive runs. On twenty
plus runs. Knine has seven, Starbonne one ten ten yard runs,
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Canine has nineteen, Sarbonne has four. And then and then
while their their yards post contact are almost exactly the
same yards pre contact, this is an interesting stat for me.
While Sarbonne has point thirty nine pre contact, you have
Canine has two point nine four He is he is
five and a half times that figure. Oh okay, what
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does that mean? He that that would speak division, and
that would speak to his speed when he when he
sees that scretch and he sees a hole, he's the
only guy that can accelerate through the damn thing. And
that's there supposedly the bread and butter. What about him?
And the there was I was, uh, how about him?
In the passing game? I was, you know, going through
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the and I have other notes on the Sam Donald
minus Tart. We went through the interceptions, but I've got
a whole nother I literally have a page at the
tops of ram u. Uh Sam Donald minuses and on
one of all I was going to give him, So
why didn't he throw the ball on that ten yard curl.
He threw it. He only threw it to uh the
checkdown to Uh to Canine. Well, Canine took the ball
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and just turber buttoned it up the up the side.
And you remember that one. Yep, you know in the
second episode like there, you just look at the tape
off enough and you just say, you get an idea
what these guys burst is. And there's nobody on that
football team that has a burst like Canaine and you know,
a Mamy. I suppose you could say Rashid Shahida, but
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you know, from the running back position, I don't get it.
I wish they would stop. I know that there's been
issues about maintenance with his foot. He's probably you know,
a good chance he won't be a Seahawk next year,
last years of his contract. You know, use this man,
and to my eyes and the stats that I'm giving you,
he's clearly the better running back. To me, it just
bothers me, like we're gonna be that investment. What do
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we say on neutral downs? We had twenty runs yesterday.
Sorry I'm not on the team. The Seahawks had twenty
runs just eleven passes. So if you're gonna be that
committed to the running the running game. When you have
a pro Bowl level quarterback, you're gonna be that committed.
Then that better be a dude. And we've got a
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guy that is just a fringe starter, you know, backup
type guy, and we keep handling the ball in sharboney.
I just like, you know, yeah, if you want to
run it like that, give it to Canine please. All right,
there's there's my soapbox. That's my thoughts on the running bow.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I actually wrote that down when I was taking my notes.
And I don't like the usage of Walker in this game,
and I know Hugh won't. Well, have we done a
couple of shows together exactly?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
All right?
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Mike old Gridle join us at nine o'clock. Hugh Millan
with us here for the next couple of hours. Are
QB one is becoming fresh off a loss in Los
Angeles to the Rams, the final score of twenty one
to nineteen. Ashley Ryan's here, Bucky Jacobson. My name is
Chuck Pollowey. Now welcome or QB one. Hugh Millan too
the radio program This Morning. Good morning, Hugh, Good morning,
(01:16):
How are you great?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So much to discuss.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I would imagine we'll spend a lot of time on
Sam donald's four interceptions, and I would imagine we'll spend
a lot of time on Mike McDonald's defense and how
well it adjusted after that early start by Matt Stafford.
So where does it start though, with Hugh Millan, where's
the conversation begin?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Well, I just think it's a really disappointing that, you know,
everybody on that football team was ready to play, and
I'm not going to say Sam Donald wasn't, but but
you saw the defense, the goal line stand, you know,
to start the game, and they just played with great intensity.
And you know, for the Seahawks to have four interceptions,
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for Sam Donald to have four interceptions, I mean since
two thy and ten, there have been teams one hundred
and five occasions when a quarterback or a team had
exactly four interceptions the team with foreign interceptions, and I
chose twenty ten. It's a round number. It's the first year.
John Schneider the team with foreignerceptions is seven and ninety eight.
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If you and that's just all teams and the and
the average score, you can expect it to be thirty
one to fifteen to lose the game versus teams that
are five hundred are better. Now it goes to three,
your three wins versus fifty eight eight losses. And the
Rams came into yesterday having won seventy eight percent of
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their games for the year. If you filter that and say, oh,
you got you're gonna you're gonna throw four interceptions against
a team that has a win percentage of seventy five
percent of more, I go back to the beginning of
the century. You're one in forty nine. I don't even
have to drag a calculator to know that you got
a two percent chance to win that game. That's what
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you told Mike Donald, Mike McDonald before. If you'd have
told them before, hey, you're gonna have to overcome foreign interceptions,
you got a two percent chance. And damn it, they
almost did it. With with all of that calamity, they
almost did it. And and it took some real you know, uh,
prayers on the behalf of the Rams in some sense
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in the kicking game, uh, that that Seattle didn't win
that game after having you know, uh dominated them and
in yours uh and in time of possession. So I
think just really unfortunate for the entire football team that
the quarterback had that kind of game in uh in
this in this situation.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Was it all bad throws, bad decisions?
Speaker 6 (03:52):
To me?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
I mean, I could be completely wrong. It felt like
there was like a little bit of a hesitation which
allowed a couple of those the guys to jump in
front of them, or was there some sort of scheme
or you know, moving guys around hiding coverages that mixed
him up.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Well, you know, there's a lot going on on all
four of them. But you know, the first one, you're
facing a mann, a man with just a four man rush.
That means there's an opportunity for an extra hole player,
got a post safety. The quarterback's going to see that
free safety. But then the other safety he's gonna come
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down into the low safety that's Kitchens. But originally Kitchens
lined up to present kind of a too high to
Sam Donald's right, as if he was over the top
of JSN. JSN was running a go route and for
all of his attributes. He doesn't have great long speed,
so it would there wasn't much separation. But you look
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on the left side, Donald ends up throwing to Cooper Cup.
Cooper Cup was standing on the twenty yard line and
he's getting pressed by fourteen co Durant. You tell a receiver, hey,
if you're held up, shortened up, And yet it's right
there on the tape. Cooper Cup goes from all the
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way to the thirty nine yard line. That's a nineteen
yard curl after having been jammed at the line of scrimmage.
That is just way too deep. So Darnold's looking at him.
And then you have other issues with the Here you
got Oloa Timmy, who's thought to be the better run blocker,
not pass blocker. And because you have to take Gray's
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abel and help him with Charles Cross against Jared Verse,
now you have the the unwanted situation where both guards
are fanning. The right guards going to his right, the
left guard's going to his left, and ol Timmy is
just matched up with no help, and so he gets
overrun and and he's right back in the pocket, so
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he takes a quick l and and then you have
things like the running back. You've got K nine. In
man to man you would on a checkdown over the ball.
You you can't just stop. You got you want a
coach to move left or right. And I'm not saying
I'm putting it on K nine. I'm just throwing on
the tape and saying there's a lot of things that
are going wrong on that play for the Seattle Seahawks.
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Standpoint and Sam Donald, look, it's first down. He uh,
he's he's got to know that he's eyeballing him. It's
bad timing. But Kitchens is able to read his eyes
and come on and get the interception on the on
the second one. The problem really is that as you progress,
the more you progress through the sequence of these, the
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worse it gets. For Jays for excise me, for Sam
Darnald on the on the third quarter, on third and nine,
he's throwing the the what's called the Oak route against
cover four. There's no disguise just for for across. But
here's the thing. On an Okie route for decades and
even even today, you see teams the you line up
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with your inside leg forward and you're outside back, and
and teams will do this and the and and thus
you have your third inside step is the sixth step.
And that's how the timing works. So when when J.
S N puts his inside leg back, that means his
he's gonna go a seventh step instead of a sixth step.
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So Donald is waiting on that. That's helping the corner
to squat. And that's the detail. You say, well, does
that really matter? Yeah, it really matters. It's the NFL
inches matter. Details matter, and and uh and and by
the way, uh, you have h H. Bradford there on
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a stunt just you know, just really pour the right
guard just you have a total free runner into Donald that.
I mean Donald threw that on two The NFL tabulated
at two point one seconds. Uh that on that second interception.
By the way, the first one had been three point
four on the one to Arroyo. As it gets worse,
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the you know, that was on a first and twenty
after a penalty. But you're you're only down fourteen to twelve.
You're down two points in the third quarter, and I
don't know, I just look at that and the balls
on the right hash you're trying to get two verticals.
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They're rolling over the top of jas onto the right
side kitchens. He turns his hips to the sideline as
if he's gonna defend the whole shot, which would be
the line drive go route up the right sideline. But
the window just somehow. This is the part about quarterback.
This is why quarterbacking is difficult, because you have to
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see it before it happens. The window. You got to
anticipate that window. And you look and you say, by
NFL standards, somehow, some way, there's got to be a
flash in his brain that says red light, red light.
It's like, I'm my my tight end isn't clearing the
underneath coverage, arroyo. The safety is in a position to
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bang on there, and you know, and just the yes,
uh a slight hesitation, but that that was that that
that that's all. These are double minuses and you know
and I when I look at that. So they're playing
a cover six. They're rolling on the uh the coverage
to the right, to the right side to to UH
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J s N on the left side. We're on the right,
we're on the on the left side. Rather, we've got
the new receiver that uh heat and he's running the
out route and so they're away from the rotation, and
you got to just say, look if you don't, if
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you don't want to throw that, then we either got
we shouldn't have spent a fourth and a fifth rounder
to get him, or we got to get a new court.
I know it's the wide side of the field, but
you one from shotgun one, two, three, put your foot
in the ground and rip that thing to the far
side of the field because that's what they're where the
coverage is telling you to go. And so so you know,
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again that's a double minus. And then on the on
the third and three, I mean, okay, yeah, you're down
or you're down nine points, but a field goal at
that point, if we just dirt the ball, if we
just dirt the ball, we're having it. We're trying a
fifty four yard field goal.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Is it a gimme?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
No? But Myers had already made a fifty seven yarder.
So now you if you dirt the ball, you got
your you're kicking. I'm not saying you're getting the three
points because because your fifty four yards is not a layup,
but you got a chance at least and and so
uh on that one there, that's a situation where they
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they disguise the coverage. They end up in what's called
a two invert cover two invert. So to Sam Darl's right,
there's gonna be safety over the top and a corner
in the flat. But the invert part, what what why
do you tag that invert? That's because to his left
the corner instead of playing a corner, he's gonna run
and he's gonna play the safety the way you would
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see in a in a in a two deep a
cover two defense with one safety and any left. But
it's the corner and then the linebacker is gonna buzz
out in the flat. A recognition by Darnold would have
had j San on A on an intermediate outbreaking route,
a kind of a short sail to his left, but
by the kind he kind of misses it there. And
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that one he had good protection. The other ones not
not as much. But uh, you know in the in
the window royal, the earlier one, the seam, I mean
there's a guy in his face. The NFL had had
that at two point six seconds he's trying to throw
out of a well. So so when you talk about
the different factors, uh, yeah, there there's there's scheming there's
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protection issues, what have you. There's miss reads and and
uh and so he he doesn't he doesn't recognize the
two invert and that he would have an opportunity to
get JSN out on the left. And then he comes back,
you know, looking for an outlet and to try and
get you know, a vert of sack and doesn't see
a guy and and and then there you have another interception.
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So so uh, you know, that's kind of the nuts
and bolts of it. There's more on my notes, but
but you'd probably get the point. Yeah, well, four interceptions,
that's the that's the point of it all. Humilanis with
us here on Monday morning quarterback. And it wasn't just
the interceptions, unless Greg Olsen and I both got confused
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by it. He also missed what looked to be a
sure fire touchdown. I mean, yeah, Forbes made a nice
recovery and swats the ball away from Rashid Shaheed, but
there was that drive where you had to settle for
your fourth field goal of the day, and a bad
hold by caller up and then a looked like an
underthrow to me from Darnold kept Shaheed from scoring a
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touchdown that would have been put you up at that point. Yeah,
single safety, nobody over the top. It's just it's press. Uh,
there's zoning an uh inside but that you know, it's
the equivalent of man to man. And and some people
say you got to put more touch on it. I
think for some quarterbacks when you go press cut, when
you when you have a bump and run, also term press.
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I'm using those terms synonymously. A lot of quarterbacks like
to have a lower trajectory because you can get the
ball on him soon. You don't have your brain doesn't
have to calculate leading the receiver as much, so you
kind of throw it on a lower line. I mean
I I used to marvel. All the announcers would say,
oh man, you got to put and you've got to
put air on that. And and I played both with
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and against Dan Marino for the Dolphins and with the
Patriots against him, and man, that dude would would if
he had press coverage, he would he would line drive
that thing up the sideline to Mark Duper and those guys.
And I mean the ball didn't get more and ten
feet off the ground, and and he says, look, I
can be more accurate that way. So I don't have
a problem with the trajectory. It just he didn't throw
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it far enough. It's real simple, you know. I mean
that one is say sometimes the cigar is just a cigar,
and he underthrew himself thought farther.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Yeah, I mean, was there things that you saw that
Sam or just offensively, maybe it was play calls that
that helped the kind of stagnation of the offense when
they got down in the red zone, because settling for
four field goals obviously just one of those things changes
and you find yourself in a different thing at the
ball game at the end of the ball game too.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah, well, I think a couple of things in the
red zone. You know, there was only where I got
my red zone. I got a entire notes for the
red zone.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
The couple things there were. I think they were a
little bit conservative on both first down runs. On the
first two they they didn't they just ran the ball
to Hallani Hallani yards.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
I knew that.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
And then and then and then we got, you know,
for another first down and you know, given to Charbonne
for no gain. So and then when you look at
all of the plays, how many times did they throw
to the end zone. Uh, with a legitimate chance they didn't.
There was just I didn't think that they were running
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concepts that that allowed for multiple guys in the end zone.
You know, Uh, we're gonna have coach home grin on here.
You know, there's a lot a lot of people. Coach, Hey,
I'm gonna give you some uh two or three opportunities
touchdown or checkdown. I'm gonna give you some opportunities with
somebody in the back of the end zone. So we
throw it high in the back of the end zone,
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we throw it low in the front of the end zone,
and and there just wasn't a lot of opportunities, so
there ended up being checkdowns because there may be be
one or nobody in the end zone. And and I
think that as we're talking about the uh the different
elements of it, excluding the last two drives on neutral
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downs that's define his first and ten or second and
six or less, the Seahawks ran the ball twenty times
and only threw it eleven outside of those last two drives,
when obviously the clock dictated you had to throw so
so that that was manifested. I think there was a
conservativism that that that I didn't love and and certainly
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in the red zone that played out, but uh yeah,
you got you got to hit that. I mean, there's
a you get the duo play. Duo is just double
teams at the point of attack. You don't have a
backside poller. And so so that that the running back
has got to he's got to read the middle linebacker
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because you're going to be slow to get to him.
And if you have an opportunity to bounce, you got
to bounce. Kenny Walker ran that beautifully, just absolutely perfect.
And I'll tell you what. If that was holding, then
I'm just gonna say there's ninety nine holdings per play
because that was the week. Now there was the other one.
I saw a Gray's abel on a on a third
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down and he was arm and and Anthony Bradford. There
was a lot of times where there should have been holding,
so I guess it all evens out. But on that that, uh,
that holding was a very weak holding. And and you know,
so you just have all these situations where you go, okay,
that missing the go route to see heat, that's a
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four point miss. The holding call is a four point
holding call. You know, not being able to punch in
I mean when you're you know, at one point you
had first and goal at the seven after the barner
tuss push. Gotta hate to use that term, and I
hate to see the play, but but uh, you know,
credit the Rams because they uh, you know, they just
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cover guys up well. And then and then when they didn't,
there was a time on a checkdown, they ran on
a third down, they ran JSN on on a fade
to uh to Donald's right, and then it was a
trips left overload. And there's a term called flanker drive,
very very ubiquitous. Mike Holman's probably called that play ten
thousand times flanker drive where you have you have Cooper
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Cup on a shallow crossing, you got an intermediate in route,
and then they had a follow by the second tight
end barner and it can be hard to sort that
out when especially when they had a running back to
the swing. Anyways, they had a really nice concept and
we've seen Donald when he's had the time, you know,
whistle through his progression and that would have been a
walk in touchdown. But that was a play where Gray's
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abel got beat and Donald had to do that lway
spin and and you know, now once once you know
you're fifteen yards behind the goal line, the chance of
getting a completion and running to your left, he just
had to you know, throw it to the cheerleaders and
kick a field goal. So yeah, it was it was.
It was really key, you know, those three opportunities that
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you had to score touchdowns and you got Instead of
twenty one, you got nine. So there's a lot of
different areas you can say, well, there's your game. Yep.
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It's Chuck, Buck and Ashley with you here on this
Monday as we react along with our experts to yesterday's
twenty one nineteen loss in Los Angeles to the Rams.
The Seahawks bad day for Sam Donald. Four interceptions in
the game. We highlighted or lowlighted those in our first
segment with our.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
QB one, Hugh Millen.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
But I do want to highlight something here, Hugh. I
do want to get your take because I thought, and
maybe maybe I'm, you know, drinking the kool aid. Maybe
I'm the local guy that's given the local head coach
too much credit. But I thought Mike McDonald sort of
confused Matt Stafford, who's one of the toughest guys to
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confuse in the National Football League. I mean, other than
handing him seven points in the first quarter and then
they had one touchdown drive. The entire game felt to
me like matt Stafford was giving up on an awful
lot of plays because he just had nowhere to throw.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
How did you see it? Yeah, that's exactly how I
saw it.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I think that.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
We've talked a lot about how Mike McDonald was brought
into battle, you know, on a chess board with Sean
McVay and Kyle shanahan, and we're talking about the Rams
today and I'll just say this, Mike McDonald is winning
those matchups. And if you don't agree with me, we're
gonna have to meet under a freeway behind the railroad tracks,
(21:34):
and only one of us is coming out alive. And
I'm not saying it's gonna be me, but you're you're
you're gonna have blood either way, because if you look
at that Matthew Stafford in the last two years, he's
gone against twenty head coaches, and his completion percentage against
Mike McDonald's fifty three and a half percent, that's twentieth
(21:55):
out of twentieth. His yards per tempt five point one,
twentieth out of t twenty coaches okay yards per game
one hundred and seventy four. That's eighteenth, third down conversions
fifteen point eight percent, eighteenth, passer rating nineteenth. So uh,
and then you know similar numbers for Sean McVay if
(22:16):
you if you throw out the JV game that in
Week eighteen, that nobody had any but anything to play
for last year. So there's been two matchups. Remember now,
last year in Seattle, the in regulation, the Rams only
scored thirteen points against the defense. It was Gino Smith
game up one hundred and six yard pick six and
essentially that's what you saw yesterday with the pick down
(22:39):
to the three yard line. And so there was just
thirteen points last year. So Sean McVay, if we're going
coaching matchups, you've got if you just following upon or
a kickoff, if you if you can just do that,
you have the Seahawks only whowing one point one eight
(23:03):
points per drive. That's eighteenth out of twenty. That's that's
less than half of what the forty nine ers give
up for a fifty yard field or more. If the
Seahawk defense has a half a field or more to defend,
they are only allowing to the Rams one point five
points per drive. Again, that's eighteen and the only one
(23:23):
who did better was in a weird game an Tony
Pierce with the head coach of the Raiders. So I
promise you Matthew Stafford wants no part of Mike McDonald
and Sean McVay. Is is that rascal? Holy cow? So, yeah,
there was a matchup. It was big time, it was anticipated,
it was discussed. We've seen two of them now and uh,
(23:44):
you know, but for the offense given a three point field,
excuse me, a three yard field and a twenty five
yard field, there's only one long touchdown, you know. So
I see it exactly the way you do.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Early on the broadcast was harping on the idea of
McVeigh switched some stuff up with their personnel, their thirteen
personnel where they were instead of spreading it out the
way that he did when he first came into the
league and was getting all the accolades he was that
he had done some stuff and it did look like
it was working. Did you see some sort of adjustment
that McDonald made to where it was pretty much non
(24:21):
existent or it wasn't working the same the rest of
the way.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Yeah, Well, First of all, going into the game of
the last three games the Rams, the NFL average is
you get twelve yards per game out of thirteen personnel.
The second place team was fifty yards per game. The
Rams were first at one hundred and sixty yards per
(24:45):
game out of thirteen personnel. So what did what happened?
What happened yesterday? They had eighteen plays forty nine yards
two point seven yards per play. And in the passing game,
where excuse me, where Stafford had had eight touchdowns in
(25:08):
the last three games. In that Stafford goes three for
six for four yards. Now he did get a touchdown
out of that group, but but again four yards in
the passing game. So so what he saw there was
a mixture of nickel and dime, and and certainly they're
(25:30):
not going to play dime against the thirteen personnel. The thirteen,
for those who don't know, that's one running back, three
tight ends, and one receiver. And so you've got guys
like Emon Worry who uh you know, he's he's got
the length even though he's a dB, he can he
can run, and Olcatta's coming down heel though the safeties
(25:50):
were really firing hard and kind of almost disavowing play action, saying,
screw that you had. Ernest Jones had had on two
long runs, he had got out of a gap on
a lead. He was supposed to be in the B
gap on the inside edge of the B gap because
Emon Warrey was on the outside, So they gave up
thirty something yards on that run. And then on a
(26:13):
stretch play where he was in the same gap with
Leonard Williams, he should have been in a C gap
one gap over. He admitted it. It's clear on the tape.
But then all of a sudden they just button that up.
And then they had been hurt by tight end screens
in the first quarter, and now you literally see the
first play of the second quarter, Okata just he literally
(26:34):
throws to the ground on the of the intended tight end.
He just not throws him because that would have been illegal,
but but just Jackson and the dude falls down. They
were just totally ready for it. So everything that they
had seen in the first quarter and that had burned them,
they made the adjustments. They played more man to man
for a while. They were more active in the set
from second quarter beyond in terms of the pressures that
(26:57):
they were bringing the simulated pressures. And what I really like,
because we discussed it last week, is that I liked
that they were coming off of Matthew Stafford's right side
as a right handed quarterback, which causes him to go
to his left. That's a win. There's been times I go, oh,
coach McDonald, that is such a beautiful blitz. Why are
you doing it from the left side, because now we
just lost contain a right handed quarterback ran away from
(27:19):
it and was able to get a completion and a conversion.
And so I thought that that, you know, just in
every way that I mean the numbers I gave him
to you.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
You saw the tape, the idea that you could take
a team at rioting as high as the rams and
you could be that damn close after having four interceptions.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
It's a testimony to the rest of the football team.
It's a testimony in the defense and the scheming of it.
And so I don't know, Yeah, just unfortunate, but also
a lot to like.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
All right, well, I do want to get a thirty
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Speaker 3 (28:07):
For machine Go.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
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We'll do it next on Sports Radio ninety three point
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Speaker 7 (28:21):
We''s seeing twice a year, possibly three. And to me,
it's like who evolves best from game to game, who
learns from it, who grows the most. He is gonna
get the advantage every time we play, but every time
we play it's been an absolute knockdown, track out fight.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Mike McDonald after last night's lost to the Los Angeles
Rams twenty one nineteen.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Mike Homber will join us at nine o'clock. We got
Hugh Millan here our QB one for the rest of
the hour.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
And we got him right in the right in the
crosshairs to ask him some really blistering questions here. So, Hugh,
we did talk about Sam Darnold's four interceptions is off game,
and really I think he'd raise his hand and say
I cost us that game. I think that we can
all sort of accept that. That said, there was a
(29:09):
narrative that started last week nationally, and you even touched
upon it on Friday about you know, maybe Sam Donald's
not cut out for these big games and these big
moments and these huge matchups and great defenses like he
faced on Sunday. What is your thought after watching Sam
struggles Sunday about just big picture if he's the right
(29:31):
guy for this job.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Well, I think for me, what I was trying to
say Friday is it's a bigger game for Sam Donald
than any of the other principles. It's gonna matter more
like if if Mike McDonald had a bad game, I
don't think people are gonna say, well, he's not a
good defensive coach. Certainly Matthew Stafford had you know, he
did have a bad game. You know, even if he
(29:54):
had thrown four picks, he's still going the Hall of Fame,
right and on and on. Sean McVay is still going
to be thought. But I think that there's enough I
don't say lack of data in these circumstances that there
was a thought that, you know, what does this mean
for Donald? His last memory. Of course, he was with
the Vikings, but it was a playoff lost to the Rams.
(30:15):
It was ugly for not not really for Sam Donald
as much as the entire Viking offense. They took nine sacks.
I think the week before against the Lions it was
it was more ugly in that regard. And he's getting questions.
He's getting questions in pre production meetings, he's from the
national guy, he's getting questions locally, and and so I
(30:38):
think it's I think it's tough. I still believe in
the guy. He's looked too good and won too many games,
But excuse me, these next four games, he could be
the NFC Player of the Week and everybody's gonna just say, yeah, well, well,
let's see what happens on December eighteenth. Yeah, guys, that's
(30:58):
when the Rams come into town. And until December eighteenth,
there's nothing he can really do to rehabilitate himself in
the eyes of those critics.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Yeah, well, I mean when it comes to the running backs,
I mean, you guys were discussing a little bit. You
want to go deeper into the reason why or what
you think about the fact that Ken Walker's not even
getting what half of the carries out there.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
The reason why I'm a little bit flummex But just
let me say this. In my opinion, I think Canine
is the running back. Period into story for me. Let
me see if I can convince you there are twenty
nine running backs who have one hundred or more rush attempts.
As Bill Parcel said, you know, you know how you
(31:45):
find who's a good running back hand on the ball
and see who gets yards. And so Canine is at
four and a half yards per attempts. Starbony is at
three point three. When you go buy sixcess. There's different
ways to hit this when you go buy success full,
which is, you know, forty percent of the needed yards
on first down, sixty percent of the needed yards on second,
(32:05):
and all of the needed yards on third or fourth.
Sharbonna has a slight advance forty four point eight percent
to forty four point one percent, but that does not
offset the following in explosive run percent. The NFL has
these stats twelve plus yards. You have can Canine at
(32:27):
ten point three percent. He's sixth in the NFL. The
percentage of the plays that become explosive. Zach Sarbina is
dead last twenty nine, out of twenty nine guys, only
three point eight percent turned into explosive runs. On twenty
plus runs. Knine has seven, Starbonne one ten ten yard runs,
(32:48):
Canine has nineteen, Sarbonne has four. And then and then
while their their yards post contact are almost exactly the
same yards pre contact, this is an interesting stat for me.
While Sarbonne has point thirty nine pre contact, you have
Canine has two point nine four He is he is
five and a half times that figure. Oh okay, what
(33:11):
does that mean? He that that would speak division, and
that would speak to his speed when he when he
sees that scretch and he sees a hole, he's the
only guy that can accelerate through the damn thing. And
that's there supposedly the bread and butter. What about him?
And the there was I was, uh, how about him?
In the passing game? I was, you know, going through
(33:32):
the and I have other notes on the Sam Donald
minus Tart. We went through the interceptions, but I've got
a whole nother I literally have a page at the
tops of ram u. Uh Sam Donald minuses and on
one of all I was going to give him, So
why didn't he throw the ball on that ten yard curl.
He threw it. He only threw it to uh the
checkdown to Uh to Canine. Well, Canine took the ball
(33:53):
and just turber buttoned it up the up the side.
And you remember that one. Yep, you know in the
second episode like there, you just look at the tape
off enough and you just say, you get an idea
what these guys burst is. And there's nobody on that
football team that has a burst like Canaine and you know,
a Mamy. I suppose you could say Rashid Shahida, but
(34:17):
you know, from the running back position, I don't get it.
I wish they would stop. I know that there's been
issues about maintenance with his foot. He's probably you know,
a good chance he won't be a Seahawk next year,
last years of his contract. You know, use this man,
and to my eyes and the stats that I'm giving you,
he's clearly the better running back. To me, it just
bothers me, like we're gonna be that investment. What do
(34:38):
we say on neutral downs? We had twenty runs yesterday.
Sorry I'm not on the team. The Seahawks had twenty
runs just eleven passes. So if you're gonna be that
committed to the running the running game. When you have
a pro Bowl level quarterback, you're gonna be that committed.
Then that better be a dude. And we've got a
(35:00):
guy that is just a fringe starter, you know, backup
type guy, and we keep handling the ball in sharboney.
I just like, you know, yeah, if you want to
run it like that, give it to Canine please. All right,
there's there's my soapbox. That's my thoughts on the running bow.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I actually wrote that down when I was taking my notes.
And I don't like the usage of Walker in this game,
and I know Hugh won't. Well, have we done a
couple of shows together exactly?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
All right?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Hugh Millan is with us our QB one. We've got
more Monday Morning Quarterback with Hugh and with Mike Holmgren
coming your way next Sports Radio ninety three point three
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