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February 10, 2025 36 mins
Should Jalen Hurts have won Super Bowl MVP? The defense was the story of the game. How close are the Seahawks to the Eagles?  Mike MacDonald says that Geno is his guy and that you can win a Super Bowl with Geno Smith, do we agree?  Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Choose chill baby. I have your Dutch super Bowl fifty
nine officially of the books.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Eagles stomping Kansas City forty to twenty two. Jalen Hurts
wins the MVP after going seventeen to twenty two to
twenty one. A couple of touchdowns through the air eleven
carries seventy two yarrons on a touchdown on the ground.
Philadelphia is your Super Bowl fifty nine Champion.

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Luca will make his Lakers debut to nights they look
for their eleventh winning thirteen games taken on Utah and
meanwhile in Dallas, Anthony Davis will miss at least a
month after reinjuring an abductor muscle in his first game
with the MAVs, so teammate Kyrie Irving's going to replace
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Star NFL news, the Saints are set to hire former
Prosser High school star and Boise State quarterback Thirty six
year old Kellen Moore is their brand new head coach
in New Orleans, and.

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The Cowboys hiring former U dub wide receivers coach Junior
Adams in the same.

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the break twenty four, twenty nine and four, the Boys
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Are home away from home on Monday afternoons. I was
gonna say during the football season, but really in perpetuity,
I mean every single Monday.

Speaker 7 (01:55):
We're here.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Are lovely I'd rather be here every day, to be
honest with you, don't know why it has to be
just set Monday. We're coming back on Wednesday. We're gonna
be here for the big Nicky Glazier show on Wednesday night.
You'll be off Wednesday night, taking off a lot vacation,
but back here on Wednesday. I believe, probably at the
vMac tomorrow for the Clint Kubiak press conference, but you
never know. We could end up in the studio either way.

(02:16):
We're back here at the Queen and this place was
absolutely packed yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
It was hopping.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
The line for the book was all the way across
the cotinea over the wall over there. The event center
was packed to the gills yesterday. The Queen staff did
a freaking awesome job with all kinds of great food
and drink and gave away four thousand bucks in cash.
And I'd like to tell you my favorite moment from
the game yesterday, but I really don't have one.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
I mean, it was kind of a turn of a game.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
I mean, I think that now we know how the
nation felt watching the Seahawks destroy Denver in twenty thirteen.
And I'm curious to get your thoughts on this, because
I got no problem with Jalen Hurts. Weren't in the MVP, right, Like,
I'm not gonna lose sleep over this. I mean, the
guy was phenomenal. Good for him. I do think it's
really amazing that this is a guy at Alabama who

(03:01):
got bench for to a tongue of iloa, to a
tongue of iloa, wins the National Championship against Georgia on
that last second or that overtime past to Devauta Smith in.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
The corner there, and then here we are.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
What is it five six years later and Jalen Hurts
is hitting the same guy to basically seal a Super
Bowl victory for Philadelphia. I mean, everything that the Eagles did,
from getting rid of Carson Wentz to drafting Jalen Hurts.
People busted Philadelphia's balls about paying them all the money
they paid him, but look in the end.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
It all worked out. They got a freaking title with
the guy.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
And whether it's because of him, whether it's because of
Howie Roseman, whether it's because of Serrianni or Vic Fangio
or the offensive line or Sakuon Barkley, they did it.
And it's a blueprint for everybody around the NFL on
how to build this thing, man. And it's not very
often that a team can go out and win a
championship with a quarterback making as much money as Jalen

(03:57):
Hurts is making as much money as pas Rick Mahomes
is making. But that old seventeen percent whatever it is,
or is it twelve and a half percent, the old
Steve Young.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Fan from back to table like that, that's over now. Well,
but Jalen Hurts fits in that. Jalen Hurst's cap hit
was only thirteen and a half million dollars this year,
so his doesn't blow up for a couple of years,
so we're still it happens, yeh, yes, you know who's
blows up this year though, that Patrick Mahomes. Right, Patrick
Mahomes' cap pit I just looked this up, goes from
thirty seven to sixty six million dollars. So the Chiefs

(04:28):
in far more trouble than Philadelphia is. And you know,
Jalen Hurts just goes up next year. But they have
so many guys under contract, And that's kind of what
I was thinking. I mean, we always think, oh, a
team wins a Super Bowl, look out for back to back.
Look out for back to back when you know that
hasn't happened that often. It's happened more lately with Tom
Brady and Patrick Maholmes, but that often it it doesn't

(04:49):
really happen. But this Eagles team, let's just look at it.
They got five stars on offense, five stars and defense
that are all twenty seven years of the age or
younger and all signed through twenty twenty six. And the
five on defense are twenty three years old or younger,
all five of them. That is how you put together
a team. That is the huge difference between the Philadelphia

(05:12):
Eagles in twenty twenty five and the Seattle Seahawks in
twenty for twenty five. As great a job as John
Schneider did for this first five six years of him
being here, he has been destroyed by what Howie Roseman
has done over the last half decade. Howie Roseman has
done over this last five years, what John Schneider did
between twenty ten and twenty fifteen.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I'm looking at the projected cap in twenty twenty six,
and this is Ai telling me it's going to be
two hundred and ninety four million dollars, which is still
for Jalen Hurts only eleven percent of the salary in
two years from now. I don't know where it goes
in twenty twenty seven, but the forty two million bucks. Again,
this is why I guess, and I'm glad that you
corrected me, by the way, But this is why I glad.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
I'm I'm glad you brought that up.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Because we tend to look at when teams signed players
to contracts, and what is Jalen's deal five years, two
fifty five with a guaranteed of one ten, one hundred
and ten million dollars, which at the time, I remember
a lot of people are like, this is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
He can't throw. Why are they paying him that kind
of model?

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Was one of them, Okay, and then he goes out
yesterday and he makes some amazing throws in that game yesterday,
including that fourth down play to aj Brown down the sideline,
remember that one yesterday. So I guess My point is
this that we we look at these contracts in terms
of what they mean for the NFL and the salary
cap right this second, not what they mean in two
years from now or three years from now, or four

(06:34):
years from now or this guy's case five years from now.
Because if I would have told you when they announced
this deal with Jalen Hurts just a couple of years
ago that in twenty twenty six his percentage of the
cap would still only be eleven percent, you probably wouldn't
have bought that.

Speaker 7 (06:51):
Well, that's because the sooner you could.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Lock these guys up tick the better, because.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
When you when you look at that, I think it
was signed in like April of twenty twenty three, all right, Yeah,
and when we looked beyond twenty twenty five, we said, oh, man, look,
thirty two million dollars.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
In twenty twenty it looks like a lot of money.

Speaker 7 (07:06):
Well, it looked like a ton of money in twenty
twenty three.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah, And now thirty two million dollars for a quarterbacks
look very very reason.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
And it's the same thing with baseball players. Man.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I know that there's no salary cap in baseball, and
we're not concerned about that, but it's the same damn
thing that twenty five million dollars ten years ago looks
totally different than it does now, and it'll look totally
different in five or ten years from now.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
So we just got to stop doing that when.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
You have a great player, and you could have argued
again whether or not he deserved it, right, you absolutely
could have argued, good God, bless the guy. He's gotten better.
I mean, it's been unbelievable watching him throw the ball. Dude, Andrews,
you may not remember this, but Dick does. Jalen Hurts
started against the Huskies in the in the Peach Bowl
in twenty sixteen, and I thought he looked terribly. We're

(07:48):
not afraid of him, No, we were not a running
game Scarborough defense's we were afraid.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
It was both Scarborough at that big long run.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
We were like Jalen Hurst, Man, we're Jake Browning's as
good as Jalen Hurts. That's what we were saying at
the time, because Jake Browning was a more accomplished passer
in college than Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
And look at him now.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
I mean if I would have told you then eight
years ago that he'd be dropping dimes like he was
dropping yesterday, man, I mean, you never would have bought it.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
And it's it's it's incredible.

Speaker 7 (08:14):
Can another Jalen be what he is?

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Maybe? Maybe? Maybe? Yeah, maybe maybe Because.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Everybody's making fun of him. He can't throw, can't throw,
can't throw. But the dude's a thoroughbred.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Okay, here's the difference.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Though, Jalen Hurts went to Oklahoma and started and started
throwing the ball. Jalen Milroe is gonna leave Alabama and
go straight to the NFL with a noodle for an arm.
So if he had stayed in school and gone somewhere
else and did what Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Did, it was hey, fine, okay, now we see it. Whatever.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Like Tyler Huntley left Utah and went to the NFL
and all of a sudden could throw the ball. Actually, no,
he got it. They hired a new coach I think
at Utah and his last year he started throwing the ball.
He looked totally freaking different, But coaching matters. I mean,
how many people have talked about Vic Fangio and what
he's meant is the defense dude.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
The entire week was.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
All about Spagnola, this Spegnola that nobody mentioned Fangio, nobody, Well,
I got conversation was about Steve spec.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
That's because the stat and I repeated it on the
air on Friday again, and it was out there all
week long. Patrick Maholmes eight no against Fanjo, eate no
against Fanjo. So it's like, so people, I think people
respected Fanjo as a good defensive coordinator, but we all thought, oh, well,
Patrick mahomes greater than sign Vic Fangio, and that's why
you don't have to worry about the Philly defense too much.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, there was a little bit of me and I
was just I mean, I'll be totally honest with you.
I completely whipped out on the show on Thursday. I
didn't have the balls to do it. I told you
on there, I wanted to pick Philadelphia, but I can't.
I just can't. I can't do it. And I took
Kansas City and the the eight no stuff against Fangio.
I asked you on the air, would you be more
confident that they can continue that or more freaked out
that eventually that's gonna come to an end? And we

(09:50):
were more focused on the seventeen straight one score games.
I get that, but there were all these stats about
look what they do this, lookal they do against that,
blah blah blah. I mean the stat that ended up
playing out was the at Philadelphia is now six and.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Zero on turf this year. And the team going west
is not undefeated the last ten years in a row.

Speaker 7 (10:06):
Jesse streak still.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Didn't matter. Didn't freaking matter. But man, you know what, dude,
I gotta tell you. Like I said, I don't have
any problem with Jalen Ruts winning the MVP. I'm not
losing sleep over this. But the story of the game
for me yesterday was the Eagles defense, without question. I mean,
they were the first team And I think you mentioned
this to Ian or maybe it was off here and
I got in my notes the first team all year

(10:29):
long to not cross the opponents fifty on their first
nine drives of the game. And if you would have
told me that that first team would be Patrick Mahomes
and the Super Bowl, I would have said, you're nuts.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
They carried the ball.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Three times, three carries in the first half, three because
they were just getting their ass kick. They had no
choice for to throw the ball twenty three yards rushing
total excuse me, total yards in the first half of
that game. Mahomes was freaking awful in the first half yesterday.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (10:55):
He was six for fourteen for thirty three yards. He
had a QBR of eleven in the first half of
that game, everything he did stats wise was garbage time.
Everything he did stats wise was garbage time. So for me,
the story of the game was the Eagles defense, again
just like the LB against Denver in twenty thirteen. So
I would have tried to have given the MVP to

(11:16):
a guy on d Cooper Degene and I went and
looked at it. By the way, the pick six it
was mid second quarter made it seventeen to nothing. Malcolm
Smith was the MVP of Super Bowl forty eight, right
because he had the pick six to make it twenty
two to nothing late second quarter. So it was kind
of similar what those two guys did with that pick six.
I probably would have given it to him or maybe

(11:38):
even Josh Wett. I just think that that's totally dicked.
The story of the game is what their defense to Well, Barnut, I.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Was fired up as a Seahawks fan for how many
references not only last night with the with the graphic
last night, but also on the national shows today, there's
been there was numerous references that this Eagles defense the
best sense dot dot dot, and they kept bringing up
the twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen Seattle Seahawks so you know,
it got us back into the limelight, but it also

(12:05):
makes us It makes me a little bit depressed because
I see how far my team is away from the
Philadelphia Eagles and we play in the same.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Co Defensively, are they are they defensively the Seahawks and
the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, because here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Philadelphia last year gave up three hundred and fifty six
yards a game.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
They went to number one at two seventy eight this year.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Right, Eagles last year were thirtieth and scoring at twenty
five point two. They made an almost seven point jump.
They gave up almost a full touchdown less per game
over freaking night.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
I would say that the back seven of the Seahawks
is comparable. The front forward is totally not comparable.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
And the offensive line, my god, I mean that's where
that is where the chasm is between the Seattle Seahawks
and the Philadelphia Eagle.

Speaker 7 (12:52):
Right, it is just it is Grand Canyon size man.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Well, the defensive line with Leonard Williams and Byron Murphy,
and then let's see what it knew what Draymont can do.
If he's even here next year. Could have been Jalen
Carter instead you took Devin Witherspoon. I get that, but
I don't know. I mean, I just think that these
guys just showed that with the right people in charge
and the right coaching, you can get better in a hurry.
And I'm not saying it's likely to happen, because it's

(13:17):
stupid to say it's likely, Himan, How often does that happen?
Where a team shaves off a full touchdown per game
and goes from almost dead last to number one in
the NFL and defensive total yards and scoring overnight because
of one guy in Vic Fangio. But that was the
absolute unbelievable story of the game. And you know, it's
funny how the narrative changes man overnight. It just changes
with the snap of a finger. That now it's like, oh, okay,

(13:39):
here the Chiefs are in trouble. Now Malmes is making
a ton of money, Raid's gonna retire, gonna lose a
bunch of guys, Kelsey's gonna quit and get fat and.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Married, tite and blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Where if they just win the game, they win one
game and all of a sudden, the narrative brow is
he the goat?

Speaker 3 (13:51):
You know, but I don't know, it's just a.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Narrative because look at the Super Bowl loser curse man,
I totally believe.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
But they lost to Tampa Bay. She just lost it.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
They have a big five years ago, but I think
and they went on maybe the best run in the
NFL's ever seen.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
The only team though, well, I mean, I guess. I mean,
look at the Niners this year. It just happens all
the time. The Eagles went down after they lost the
Super Bowl. Now they're back up, right right. I mean
the year I'm not saying for a long period of time,
but they usually the year after you lose the Super Bowl,
is God good for you.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
So for years and years and years, it was all
about the seventy two Dolphins. At the last team that
won a championship after losing it the year before. The
Dolphins lost in seventy What year did they lose? They
lost in seventy one. Then they won it in seventy two. Okay,
So for years that was the narrative that you can't
do it. And I think there's been now a couple

(14:43):
of teams that have done it where they've lost the game.
Kansas City lost it in twenty twenty one and the
next you won it again two years later. I don't
think there's been a team the Patriots twenty eighteen. The
Patriots lost to Philadelphia and then they won it the
next year. That's the only and there might be some
other teams this list. I gotta look at Denver took
two years to get back. The Chiefs took two years

(15:07):
to get back. There's been a few Patriots took one
year to get back.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
I just think that the combination of playing so many games,
getting so close to the top of the mountain and
then getting kicked off.

Speaker 7 (15:17):
Yeah, I think it.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
I mean it takes Look at the Seahawks, I mean
it takes a full year to recover from that.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
I don't think any team going back to the day
the Dallas Cowboys took two years from seventy five to
seventy seven. Yeah, I mean, it's not very often that
teams even do that dick where they wait two years
to win it again. You lose a championship game, and
normally you're waiting around a long damn freaking time.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Like I said, Mahomes's number balloons, I'm a little worried
about the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Now, yeah, I was a little bit surprised at how
many people were rooting for philadelph I was because I
put a poll out yesterday and it ended this morning,
so maybe it was skewed a little bit. But seventy
five percent of the people responded to the ball said
they were rooting for the Eagles to win the game yesterday.
I didn't want to see that because I wanted to
see a good game. I would have had no problem
with the Eagles winning the game yesterday, but it was

(16:07):
such a turn sandwich of a game that I'm sure
the ratings won't be great or as good as they
could be because the game was so bad. But I
think everybody kind of, for the most part, in general terms,
got what they wanted. They wanted this thing to end.
They wanted the Chiefs fatigue to go away. They wanted
a new you know, King of the Hill, and now
they got it. In Philadelphia. Man, I think a lot
of people, large majority of the country, I the feeling

(16:30):
I get they were rooting for Philadelphia.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
Oh, I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
I mean the Philly fans I thought in the stadium
doing everything that moved was I mean, that's just so
so Philly. But I mean, whatever, I love it, I'm
just not I'm not a fan of I'm not a
fan of that city. I'm not a fan of I respect,
I respect how passionate their sports fans are, but there's
a difference between being a passionate sports fan and just

(16:53):
being a classical sports fan. I think there's a lot
of classless sports fans in that city. And but whatever,
you know, they got their they got their champion. Was
tough for me to root. You know, I couldn't root
for him. I wasn't rooting for him. I mean, hey,
Jalen Hurts, he has improved. I gotta give him credit.
I gotta give props. Now, Hughes said today, we're gonna
ask him again when we have him on with More
at four, right, Yeah, you know, he talked about the

(17:15):
simplistic nature of the Philadelphia offense, how they like they
give Jalen Hurts like an eighth grade offense to run
and because they have such a great running back and
such a great offensive line and such a great defense
that they're able to do that for Jalen Hurts. So
I'm not gonna go so far as to say Jalen
Hurts is all of a sudden a great quarterback.

Speaker 7 (17:37):
Nor am I going to put him in the in the.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Echelon with the with the you know who's the Allens
and La mar Jackson's and the Patrick Mahomes. But he
has shown that he can help lead a team to
a super Bowl champion.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well, in the two games that he played against Mahomes
and the Super Bowl play, he's totally outplayed. I mean,
the numbers aren't even close like he is. And again,
I know it's not all about just that, and there's
different context and stuff, but he has totally outplayed Mahomes
in those two games. And I just kind of feel like,
you know, hey, so he's not Borrow, he's not Allen,
he's not Mahomes. Okay, so what's so he's number two

(18:13):
or second tier? Like that's some great insults. So what departments?
You know, I've got to know. We had James the
new guy says he's the Northstrom Rack, which I think
is pretty freaking good. He said he's a Geno Gino's
Northstrom Rack. What department is Jalen Hurdson? He's I mean,
what would be what would be like, what's the super
uber guy?

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Star. Yeah, what's what's right below?

Speaker 7 (18:34):
Goods Sacks Bloomingdale' Yeah, I'd.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Say he's there. That's fine.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
I mean, the guy's got two champion he's got a
championship and two Super Bowls already and an MVP.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
I mean, good god, how is nordstums racked by the
way an insult?

Speaker 3 (18:45):
We got to talk about that. It's not an insult.
What's that about that? Next?

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Because the new guy's already pissing people off, which I
took him like an hour three twenty. We're gonna break
a lot more to get to on a busy Monday
from the Emeral Queen on ninety three three kJ RFM.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
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Speaker 2 (19:14):
All right, we're back on a Monday night from the
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Speaker 3 (19:21):
Aaron Levine, Yeah, did you hear about the interview he
did with Mike McDonald.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
I know a lot of people talking about the pregame
interview with Trump on the Fox broadcast yesterday, But I
heard that the Aaron Levine pregame sit down with McDonald
was even bigger than the Trump conversation.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
I apologize I did not see either of them.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Oh really, okay, well let me fill you in me
in so, Aaron Levine caught up with Mike McDonald, and
you know, obviously big week for the NFL. You saw
the Aaron Rodgers story came out yesterday where he's unlikely
to go.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Back to the Jets, blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
But kind of buried was a quote that McDonald gave
Aaron Levine about Geno Smith. And we can argue if
he really means this, is he just supporting this guy
In a second, but listen to this is Aaron Levine
Fox thirteen talking to Seahawk head coach Mike McDonald about
Geno Smith.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Do you expect him to be here starting quarterback next year? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (20:09):
Heck yeah, man, Geno's our quarterback. I don't understand the conversation.
It's pretty obvious this guy's a heck of a quarterback.
He's our quarterback. We love him, can't wait to go
to work with him. We've had a lot of non
football conversations to keep it legal over the last month
or so, and I know he's really excited about Clint
taking over and this guy, he's a great player man,
and we can win a championship with Gino Smith. We

(20:29):
really believe that and can't wait to get back to
work with him.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Okay, I have heard that because we talked about it
on Friday, so he didn't do the interview on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
I've just came out. I'm partially okay, got you you sarcastic.
You threw me.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
I actually thought maybe on the on the local broadcast
before they went national that he was on. But yeah,
we talked about that on Friday, and I think that
I think he believes it to a certain extent, But
I also think he needed to distance himself from his
first response on Gino Smith, which came a couple of
months ago when he was asked if Gina.

Speaker 7 (21:02):
Was going to be here and he was and he
was like.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Welldline, I guess yeah. Well, I mean he jumped in
pretty fast. I mean, look, it's almost like he almost
said to Aaron Levine, Hey, would you ask me about that?
So I can just bring it up again and give
you a different answer than I gave the media a
few months ago. I mean, ultimately, it's not gonna be
his call. It'll be John Schneider's call. If Gino Smith
is here or not as the quarterback. I don't think

(21:25):
he's going anywhere this year. I think he's gonna be here.
I think the idea that you and I have had
and others have had about just moving on from him
saving a bunch of money, spending the money on your
offensive line and finding a cheaper alternative or a reasonable
facts simile of for a lot less money, I don't
think that's gonna happen. I'd be fairly surprised at this
point if Gino Smith was not on the roster. I

(21:46):
know Holmgren's had some conversations as well with McDonald, and
that's the sense that Mike gets that he's not going anywhere, which,
by the way, I haven't been on.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
The air since he got jobbed on Thursday night.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
You saw my response on social media and I'm still,
you know, broken for him, so we can address that
later on as well. But going back to Geno Smith
for a second, I don't know what else the guy's
supposed to say, honestly, besides heck, Yeah, we love him,
he's our guy. It kind of reminds me of Pete
Carroll what we all said about Pete Carroll that he's
gonna have your back until the second he.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Pushes you off the boat.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
And when he pushes you off the boat, you'll know
it because you'll go from zero one to zero boom.
He's gonna just flip on you. He's gonna cut your
ass and you're gonna be gone. So as long as
Geno Smith is on the roster, and as long as
Geno Smith is being asked to be the starting quarterback
for the Seahawks, I think Mike McDonald has no choice
but to approach it like that.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, you're my guy until you're not. That's it, end
of story. I mean.

Speaker 7 (22:38):
And he also doesn't know, or maybe he does at
this point.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
I would doubt that he knows exactly what Geno's representatives
are looking for as far as financial.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Right, So maybe he can't be looking for more than
what they were looking for a year ago. Right, it's
either the same or less correct. It's gotta be more.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Laugh in their face.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
He's a year older and he had his worst year
as a seat, so you know it. It has to
be less. So I think there's a number that the
Seahawks have in mind. Heck, we have a number in
mind where we're like, Okay, that doesn't feel like it
hurts the rest of the team, go ahead and sign it,
because you really don't have a better option.

Speaker 7 (23:14):
If the number gets.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Too high though, where you feel like, man, you're just
you are Robin Peter to pay Paul, you are paying
a mediocre Dictionary definition mediocre quarterback more than mediocre money,
and it's sacrificing the rest of your roster. That's where
you have to go in a different direction, no matter
what that different direction is, because guess what, You're not
going to the super Bowl next year.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
You're not period, end of story.

Speaker 7 (23:38):
So use it to rebuild.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Well, look, I think that I would like to have
that debate about next year. This was a ten win
football team that lost the NFC West because they lost
a tiebreaker to the LA Ranks.

Speaker 7 (23:52):
Well, Rams also handed him the last game too.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Okay, sure, but that's fine.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
But they also kicked away the Giant game, which they
never I mean, if they just would have pulled their
head out for one week.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
They may have won the West.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Okay, so whether it's nine or ten wins, if this
is not a five win football team, is my point.
So if the Seahawks played the Minnesota Vikings like the
Rams did at Lumen Field in the first week of
the playoffs, would it have shocked the hell out of
he in some alternate reality, if the Hawks would have
won that game, No, and they would have made.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
The second round of the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
I think if the Seahawks would have made the second
round of the playoffs and maybe they lose a tight game, whatever,
I think people would feel differently about him.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
I mean, I think that.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Again, I'm not saying that they're the favorite or they
should be amongst the favorites. I mean, the hierarchy in
the NFC right now is pretty crystal clear, right like
who the top three or four five teams are in
the NFC. But we just saw what the Eagle defense
did with this jump that they made. How much can
John Schneider fix the offensive line overnight? If he signs
Tray Smith to a free agent contract, the offensive line

(24:49):
gets instantly better. Although I don't know a lot about
Tray Smith as a guy. Is he the kind of
dude that's gonna get lazy? When he signs a big deal.
Is he gonna still be motivated for the money that
he got this offseason after he signed his contract.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
I got no freaking clue.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
But I just think that this idea that we're sitting
around basing everything we think, and there's there's no other
way to do it.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
I understand that, Dick.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
All you can do is base what you think is
gonna happen next year and what you just saw and
the changes that you think teams may make. I mean,
there's always a surprise though, right there's always a surprise.
There's a couple of teams that have some kind of
season where they pop.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
So my question to you is.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
This, is it ridiculously stupid to think that a ten
and seven football team could go twelve and five next year?

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Is that as nine? I don't think it is at all.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
And if the Seas are a twelve and five football team,
if the Lions are taking a step back with the
coaches that they've lost, the Rams should take Rams should
take a step back. The Eagles might take a little
bit of a step back. You never know, or they might,
you know, be right there. But is a twelve and
five football team a team that we should automatically discard
from the super for both conversation out of the NFC,

(26:02):
I don't think it is well.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
I think normally the teams that take a massive jump
are the teams that change at quarterback like Washington did
this year, and they fight and they strike gold, right
like the Seahawks did when they went from you know,
Charlie Whitehurst and Matt Hasselbeck to Russell Wills.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
They went from seven wins to uh to twelve right,
eleven sorry, eleven.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Four game improvement. Commanders had what the what the commanders have?

Speaker 7 (26:24):
Like an eight game improvement or something like that.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
That's that's usually you usually don't see a four game
jump with the same quarterback that you've had for a
year after year after year. When you know, you kind
of now you could have a one game jump, two
game jump. You could also go the other way based
upon the schedule, and I haven't really dived into the schedule, and.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
See this is kind of worthless right now. It's you know,
tougher this.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Year than it was last year, or what have you.
I know we've done it with the Huskies. We both
agree that the Husky schedule for twenty five is easier
than the Husky schedule.

Speaker 7 (26:53):
For twenty four was. We haven't really dived in it yet.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
On this way, we also have.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
More of a feeling of what college teams will look
like versus pro teams because the basically the free agency
era or the free agency window, and it's pretty much
over that. I mean, yeah, there's a spring window in
a couple of tweaks here and there, but free agency
hasn't even started in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
We got no idea what the hell these teams will
look like next year. So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
I mean, I just heard I heard McDonald say that,
and I knew that people would gravitate to that part
of the comment. We think we can win a championship
or play for a championship with him and just totally
discount I would generally agree, of course, I would generally
agree that, you know, winning a title with Gino Smith
as your quarterback is gonna be really hard.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
But is it?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Is it as stupid and acid nine as some people
think it is. We got some of your thoughts on
that four nine, four to five one A little fun
with audio next right here on ninety three to three KJRFM.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
It's now time for someday.

Speaker 9 (27:46):
In Dick's Fun with Audio, Jimmy Gawd Star, Jimmy, mister garoppolo.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Now let's have some fun with audio, all right, little
fun with audio on a Monday post Super Bowl edition.
Baby right here on Zafi and Dick from the Emerald
Queen Casino. I should have just stayed here last night,
my got. I was left here about seven thirty eight o'clock.
And I'm seeing a lot of a lot of the
people I saw yesterday are still here, by the way,
at the casino were in the same thing, yes, and

(28:12):
but smelling very differently. By the way, it's a much
different odor than it was twenty four hours ago.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
All Right, hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?

Speaker 7 (28:19):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Dick?

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Let's start in the NFL enders. But let's start with
number two. I want to go in chronological order. Here's
Merril Reese, the long time play by play voice of
the Philadelphia Eagles, calling Cooper de Jine's pick six to
put the Eagles up seventeen to ten before halftime.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
It was thirted sixteen for the Chiefs facing the stunt.

Speaker 10 (28:41):
His defense of the seasons that goes b Homes he's rushing,
he's looking, it's intercepting, it's intercepting.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Nball to the twenty five ten. The four seven is
the Gene and the Tan and bro touchdown. Happy Birthday.

Speaker 9 (28:57):
Took me the scene Cooper, dunch Choon, Big six and
the super Bowl on your birthday?

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Birthday time? How about that? By the way, I said
seventeen ten, It was seventeen nothing.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
But he calls him Cooper de jene and Cooper de
June in the same clip. There he's kind of like
the Dave Knee House and the Eagles. He can do
whatever the hell he wants.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Well, you know, I was I'm so used to listening
to Harlan tell you exactly what square inch on the
field that they all are when he throws. I kind
of had no idea where Cooper made the pick. Was
it a five yard pass? Was it a twenty yard path?

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Right?

Speaker 7 (29:32):
Where was he on the field? But hey, like you said,
it was like, you know.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Like House, whatever he wants.

Speaker 7 (29:37):
He was a legend.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Well let's let's stay on that theme though. Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that?

Speaker 3 (29:41):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Dick Merril Reese again one of the game winning the
game ending.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Calls sound like last night? Here was the calls.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
The clock expired on WIP as the Eagles began to
celebrate their championship.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
It's Hopley.

Speaker 10 (29:57):
The Philadelphia Eagles had won Super.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Bowl empty nine.

Speaker 10 (30:01):
They have Peyton La Kansas City teams forty to twenty two.
It's their second Super Bowl win in seven years. What
a game, what a season? Won a team the greatest
Eagles team in modern history. Eagles fans savorite and were
you JOI?

Speaker 9 (30:21):
This is not a good football team. This is a
great football team. They proved weekend and week out that
they are the best football team in the National Football League.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
They put a.

Speaker 9 (30:33):
Stamp on it here tonight at the Superdome bringing home
the Lombardi Trophy.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Get on my ready to party. You know he sounds
like Meryl Reeves. I just figured it out.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
He kind of sounds like that stereotypical sports broadcaster guy
that gash he used always in person.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
That's him. That's Meryl rece. Hey, Dick, did you happen
to hear that day? What's that? Dick? You mentioned Kevin Harley?
You want some Harlan now you can compare him.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Contrast Merril Reese to our friend Kevin Harlan calling the
Jalen Hurts bomb to DeVonta Smith touchdown as it sounded
right here on ninety three three Kjar and Westwood one.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
In the pistol on the NFL logo, I'm the Kansas
City forty six Eagles takeover first and ten the shotgunsnap
that they came up and Hurts toruts back, five winds up,
one marching pass down the middle, it's cut over the
cylinder in the end time touchdown Smith and think may
make it insurmountable. Forty six yard touchdown strike thirty three

(31:36):
nothing Eagles.

Speaker 7 (31:38):
Wow, you know that's the best, man.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
You know.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
They have those odds where you can bet like Philadelphia
wins the game by twenty plus thirty plus?

Speaker 3 (31:46):
What was it? Dude? It would have been ridiculous and
we would have been rich. Well, I would have Knowladelphia
to lead by thirty four. At any point of the game,
we would not be here right now, we'd be done.

Speaker 7 (31:56):
We'd I feel really bad.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
They were probably Eagle fans did this that bet twenty
one points are over right, because that was an easy
cover until the garbage time.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Soyoh maybe yeah?

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Can you imagine if you took Eagles plus or minus
twenty one, we're probably like seventy five to one, one
hundred to one, boy, something like that, and you had
it locked up until the very end of the game.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Well, I don't know, man, I'm curious to know if
they wanted to go for the shutout, if that was
even a conversation, because it would have been for me,
it would have said, Hey, look, we got one chance.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
To do with this guys in our life, we're a
quarter away. Let's play.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Everybody balls out, nobody sits, everybody plays, and we shut
these bastards out. I would have totally gone for that
if I were Siriani and Fangio.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Let's go to number four there Andrews Danielofski on First
Take today.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Apparently he's leaving the show or taking a time out.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
I heard today after criticizing Jalen Hurds a lot this year,
gave a public apology this morning to the Super Bowl
fifty nine MVP.

Speaker 11 (32:58):
This is the young man that was benched in the
National Championship Game, benched by the greatest college football coach
of all time, didn't break them, didn't break them, had
to go back into year later transfers and listen, I
owe publicly Jalen Hurts an apology. I was probably one
this year who's been the hardest on him.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
I'll go back a couple of weeks ago when.

Speaker 11 (33:21):
I said the passing game's not good enough right now,
and I don't think it's gonna get better. All he's
done since then has have his two best games of
the year on the two biggest stages that the game
has been on.

Speaker 9 (33:32):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, he's I mean, look many how many points did
they score in the NFC Championship game, fifty whatever, So
they've scored ninety plus points in the last two games.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
I mean, it's all he can do is give.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
The guys due, right, I mean, he's unbelievable, And I
mean I know you're not a big fan of Sirianni,
but he's the head of JOS too, and give him
his due. You got to give Howie Roseman, They're due
the whole freaking thing. I mean, I saw this tweet
about what they got in the Carson Wentz trade.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Have you seen this, By the way, I gotta look this.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Up to make sure this is actually accurate because it's
on Twitter, so who the hell knows?

Speaker 7 (34:04):
Just believe it?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
But okay, fine, then here's what they got. They traded
Carson Wentz to Indianapolis tweet.

Speaker 7 (34:11):
I think it's all right.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
And apparently with those picks they got DeVonta Smith, A J. Brown,
Jalen Carter and Cooper. There's no way that's true.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Because Carson Wentz when they traded him was already terrible.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
He was like falling apart.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Remember remember the start against the Seahawks in the playoff game.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
I don't know, we're all high drafted. I gotta look
it up. I gotta look it up. Man. Something's wrong there.
Something doesn't sound right.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Let's do one more, ay, Dick, did you happen to
hear that?

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Let's go to you want to go number five or
number six? Anders? You pick one? Which number six? Legendary
NBA broadcaster QUB.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Brown called his last game yesterday in Milwaukee, where he
spent the majority of his coaching career, and the referees
presented the game ball to him.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
And his response was about his huby as it.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Gets not small fans everywhere and congratulation on an amazing career.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Well, thank you, privilege in my honor to present to you. Yeah,
but Kevin, wait a second, Kevin Lockery and I used
to lead the lig In technicals every year and you're
actually giving me a prison representing their reps.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
So thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
Just go back to the old timers that used to
be working a two man crew. He was a heck
of a lot better than you're getting here right now.
But thank you, fellas. Really just your career you hopefully
stay healthy though, Thank you?

Speaker 3 (35:43):
All right? Very cool?

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Uh you know the comment we talked about men aging
better than women by.

Speaker 7 (35:48):
The way earlier, Hube's perfect example.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Well, I guess because he looks like he's ninety five
years old. Ninety one? I mean, actually no, I'm sorry,
I was going to say something even more inappropriate. It
looks like he.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Died about five years. Oh okay, I mean, look at
the guy. He looks like the old man from Pultergeist.
You ever see Poltergeist.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
When you get over ninety, it doesn't count aging, doesn't.
I mean you've won that, you've already won.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
I think I saw his face on display as a
Halloween costume by the way, all right, I.

Speaker 7 (36:12):
Got some clear I got some clarification on the trade.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
All right, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Hold that thought, all right, hold that thought because we
got to get to a break. Hugh Miller a little
more at four Next with him on ninety three three KJRFM.

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