February 11, 2025 • 41 mins
Looks like Geno is coming back, how do we feel about him inn the new system under Klint Kubiak? We hear some sound from Klint Kubiak in his press conference from earlier today: how will Ken Walker fit in his offense, what does he think of Geno? Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
No from the Star Rentals Sports to us your ninety
three point three JJRFM sports headlines.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Alrighty kiddos, here we go on a Tuesday afternoon live
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Speaker 3 (00:22):
Baby, you're an idiot, you don't know baseball?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, how about we start with some news in baseball?
Oh see the Clayton Kershawn news. Going back to the
Dodgers for an eighteenth year on a one year deal.
The three time sight On Award winner, though coming off
a surgery in November and may not be good to
go until June. And if you're a Ty France fan, congratulations.
He assigned a one year deal with the Minnesota Twins.
How about that one million dollars if he breaks team.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
One million dollars?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Uh Luca fourteen points in twenty four minutes in his
Laker debut last not a one thirty two one thirteen
blowout went over at Utah and today the Lakers have
found a big man.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I don't know if he's a good big man. He's
just a big man.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Seven footer Alex Lehnn, former Sacramento King.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Imagine being seven foot tall and sucking at basketball. How
bad that would be? What else we got? More news
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Officially now the Eagles offensive coordinator Kellen Moore, thirty six
years old Prosser High School Boys to State QB, officially
announced as the new Saints head coach. He's three years older,
by the way, than Saints quarterback Derek Carr.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
The royal and ancient following the USGA's path allowing anyone
that's in the top five of the live standings after
June of Vena Dallas to compete in the Open champions
It's all coming together, Dave.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I'm telling they're gonna charge us five times more for
the stuff we had five years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
More news NFL.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
We're gonna hear from Kin Kubiak, by the way, at
four o'clock today, the new OC of the Hawks the
Seahawks today the officially adding three more assistant coaches, including
offensive line coach John Benton, quarterback coach Andrew Janako, and
offensive assistant Michael Bernon. If you're wondering, by the way,
what happened to Scott Huff, He's gonna take the tight
ends job with the la Rams.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
There we go, goofy wacko, out.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Of touch Homers just bree radio just.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
For the forty one yards from an iliat day.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Can you feel it down?
Speaker 5 (02:13):
This is softy and dick.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That mistake number one don't even last five seconds. Yeah, yesterday,
walk yesterday. You're pretty good, Andrews. I'd say that's a
hit by pitch with the first pitch of the game.
Grilled the guy right at first. Nobody you already just
drilled me right, and it took us with the very
first pitch of the game, ninety eight miles an hour,
bang right to the backside.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
I can get out of the gym, I guess Jesus.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Okay, well, we got a six four to three coming out.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I'm just saying, if you can drive a truck sideways
through that seguay By the way, my god, it was
a whole but hey.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
We're on remote.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
We're at the Seahawks facility, the Virginia Mason Athletics Center.
Uh and we always like to test our mic levels
when we're on remote, you know, because sometimes you kind
of turn.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Your mic up and things down a little terrible. Hello.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Jackson usually tells us off the ear how we sounded.
Apparently Andrews thought he had the audio levels all mixed.
But you said we were popping our p's there and
he pumped eight up on the air.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Is it still happening?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I think part of the reason is we're using the
same comrades that I used in the Takomad.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
High School podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
So yeah, I think Bob Blackbird may have called a
sonic game on this thing. We found this in the
closet from about the one ninety Queen Ann building.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
It was in the freaking basement and it's got his
name on it right there. Bosses. Yeah, this isn't a
normal one. We use it the Queen. No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
But anyway, that's that's just stuff that people don't need
to know. That's behind the scenes stuff. I mean, Richard's like,
what do you tell people that? Because it's funny, that's why.
Because there's nothing better in this business than self deprecation.
We are using we are popping still again down a
fine fine would just do this live on the air.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
How's that? Is that better? Yeah? My gone? Can you
still hear me? You can hear it? Really? Because I
can't hear a damn thing. By the way, you know
what I need. I need an endorsement for like a
hearing clinic or something like that. I can't hear any
My hearing is shot. It's unbelievable. You get my car.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
If I leave my car stereo on and then just
turn off my car and you get in my car,
your ears will blow getting into my car. Yeah, it's
like spinal tap. You turn everything up to eleven?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
What was that? I mean?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I honestly may have like really bad hearing damage. Well
your well, don't you feel bad for what you do
for a living?
Speaker 4 (04:23):
You wear headphones at level eleven out of ten for
four hours a day.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I mean you're gonna get well.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I don't know, man, I just got to go see
somebody because my wife is this is a problem, and
I want to know if your wifes do the same thing.
My wife and I will be like on a walk
with the dogs outside whatever, there's cars going by, there's noise,
blah blah blah, and she'll be in front of me
looking the just like you know, north of me.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
She'll talk and she'll and she'll expect me to hear.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
She's like, you're deaf. I'm like, dude, nobody could hear that.
Nobody could? Like, what do you so? That is like her?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Her? Her?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Uh? Her? What sort of looking for her?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Baseline for whether or not I can hear or not
is whether or not I can hear her while she's
walking in front of me and looking away from me.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
It's like, nobody could hear that? Man, I can't. I
can't wait for Friday. I'm gonna what's happening Friday. I
don't know if we can do it or not. Something
came up, Yeah, something came up with a horse. We
got a problem with the horse. I'm not sure what
we're doing.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
You got to see a man about a horse. I
do see.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I gotta go drop some friends off with a pool
and see a guy about a horse.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I don't know, we'll see. I mean we maybe we'll
have her call in or something forward to that. Even
when on my vacation I tuned that in.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
See.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I think I think what we should do as a
new Valentine's Day tradition is you know you you get
to be almost fifty two years old and yours and
you'll realize when you're our age that you kind of
run out of gift ideas for your wife. You know,
it becomes harder. Really yeah, well it's gonna get worse.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Trust me, we don't do it. We don't do Valentis Well,
you do cards.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
She'll ask me, do you want to do Valentine's gifts?
I'm like, you know, I mean, I'll buy some candy.
But then the problem with me is the candies in
the house.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
And I can't have candy in the house.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Oh yeah, because the old fat guy will come out
and just gobble it all up, walk down at two
o'clock in the morning, just eat it all right?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Or would she be like, why are you getting me candy? Oh?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
She loves candy. She is My wife has a major
sweet tooth. Loves candy, loves ice cream, is her favorite
thing in the world.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Loves Ben and Jerry's cookido it's her favorite ice cream.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Loves them.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
So you know.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
But the point is is that I think, you know,
for us, like, what do we really.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Want for Valentine's Day?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Peace, Well, nothing exactly, So how about we do this
for an idea, Andrews, you're married, Jackson's married, Dick is married,
I'm married, Farnessa's married.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Uh is the new guy married? Mark James?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And I'll think, so Chuck's not married, Bucky's married. How
about the freaking wives come in? How about the wags
come in on Valentine's Day? Give us the day off,
let him yack with each other, let them go on
the air and gossip question.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
I say, yeah, who would be the one to take over?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And they can tell stories, they can make stuff. Would
absolutely be alpha dog in that. Gina used to work
at the radio station, so it's kind of unfair it's there.
She might do that, but I would love it for
we let's start a new tradition. Our wives have jobs, though, well,
then they can take it out.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
They're gonna take me Wait a second, they're gonna take
a vay cases work.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
My wife's boss, Dan Dan Sheridan would give Gina the
day off in a second to have her host the
radio show with Jana Fane and Rise of Felts or
Augustina Hurst.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, okay, did you take your last name? By the way, Yes,
she did. Good, there you go. That'd be fantastic.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, you would not want to hear that. People can
text in calling it all the dirt. Ono's all the
scoop actually said, they can even make stuff up. I
don't even care. My wife and day off and they do.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Ow.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
She loves the chief main, which is gossip in Spanish.
It's like her favorite thing. So she what chief may?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Cheese may? Yeah, cheese may are sandwich for lunch?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
And are you gonna name your first kid Lionel?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
No?
Speaker 6 (07:55):
I think every every person in Argentina already does that, so.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I don't or their dogs, right. Yeah, Well, we got
a big show. Clint Kubi acts to join us in
about fifty minutes from now at four o'clock today, we're
going to a chance to hear from the new OC
of the Seahawks, a little fun with audio before that,
three forty five John Wilder joining us at five o'clock
and then Greg Diga Gigabell will be with us for
some Seahawks chatter. Yes he's still doing that, by the way.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Don't worry. He'll join us in the six pm hour.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
But you know, the press conference today, I mean, it's
just so hard for me, man, because everybody will last
things like, Hey, would you make of the press or what.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Was your big takeaway for the press conference? I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I mean the fact that he said he wants a
full back that stood out to me. That's cool, right
to hear him talking about actually wanting a full back
on the roster. The fact that he wants to run
the ball great, the fact that he wants to get
dk Metcalf the ball great. I mean, how much do
we really take from this press conference today? That really
means a damn thing until we see these guys playing.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Sometimes well, part of the reason he came is because
of Gino Smith. I mean, I think that's do you
really believe that though he's gonna I don't know what
to believe because I heard I heard our head coach
two months ago say yeah, I think he's gonna come back,
and then too and then this last week say, oh
my got Geno Samith.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
That's freaking awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I'm telling you, so, Tod Aaron Levine, would you ask
me so let's give you a different answer this time,
But honestly, like, do we really believe that Clint Kubiak
And look, maybe he only had the one option I have.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
No idea property options Clint Kubiak had. But when he
looks at the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And maybe, look, it's possible, he tells himself, Hey, at
least they've got something.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
At quarterback, right, like what would be interview?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
I have no idea one of the world has like
a good quarterback, right.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Because there are football teams out there that would have
open positions that would have slop at quarterback. Like let's say,
for example, Pete Carroll wanted him with the Raiders, right,
and it's Garden minshew and Aidan o'ka. Okay, so yes,
I could see how going to coach Geno Smith and
Seattle would be more attractive than coaching the Raiders with
Aiden O'Connell and Genos and Gardner Minshew. But do we
(09:59):
believe that and he said that because he was the
best available option of all the jobs he was offered,
or do we believe that this guy really thinks that, Hey,
Geno Smith can be a top ten quarterback in the
NFL and he could make me a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Well, the word that he used today to describe Geno
worried me a lot, saying which one the word aggressive
he likes? I like Geno's aggressiveness, and I'm sitting there.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Going, I don't like Geno's Andanders Dick is literally in
the audience at the waving his.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Hand when he said I love Geno's aggressiveness. I fly,
I had a flashback the whore. I had a flashback
to sitting in my seats at Lumen Field against the Rams,
looking down into my left as Gino Smith tried to
thread a pass between three Ram defenders at the five
(10:51):
yard line and it went ninety five yards the other way.
That's what I thought when I thought of aggressiveness. Yeah, well,
Dick wants to throw the ball five times a game.
He wants to run sixty five times a game.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I mean, I thought it was really funny when Mike
McDonald started channing at the podium today right in front
of Clint Kubiak. But I don't know, man, I mean,
I just kind of feel like, hey, look, we get
to know the guy's a person a little bit. We
get to know his personality a little bit. We get
to find out about his history, kind of where he's been.
You know, he's got four kids. I guess right at
the age of thirty, he's the same age as Mike McDonald. Right,
(11:25):
So remember when they hired Ryan Grubb. The deal was, Hey,
he's a first year rookie NFL offensive coordinator, but he's
forty eight years old. This guy has called plays in
the NFL for a couple of years now, but he's
also thirty seven years old.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
He's been at five teams in five years.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Hoping he stops and kind of, you know, find some
footing a little bit for him and his family. But
I think this is I just go back to the
same take I had after the Seahawks fired Grub and
after all these names U Dinski and blah blah blah
started coming up. The guy from the Lions, Hayley, whatever
the hell his name was, or was it something else?
What was the name of the guy from the Lions
off I don't really care who the offensive coordinator is. Man,
(12:04):
I really don't find me some lineman. Find me some
freaking offensive lineman, find me some players, and let's run fair.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
No, I think that's fair.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
I think I think offensive coordinators are kind of like
Major League Baseball managers. There's five great ones, there's five
awful ones, and there's twenty in the middle. Yep and
and that's you know, that's kind of the way it
is with the with offensive coordinators. But I did remember,
you know, remember what Fletcher Mackle told us last week, right,
Fletcher mackel from New Orleans came on. A reporter from
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the Saints came on and said, Hey, I like Clint Kubiak.
He's not going to be a head coach though, And
we were like, well, what do you mean He's not
gonna be a head coach? And he's like personal, he
doesn't have the charisma, sure, the personality to be a
head coach. And as we sat down today and you
can see if you guys look at the press conference
on online, Mike McDonald sits down, he scoots up in
(12:55):
his chair. He's got his huge guns and his extra
small olo shirt busting out right, he's got his elbows
on the table. He's looking at us. You know, he's
got that glare you can like you can.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
See through you.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
And then next to him, Clint Kubiak, he's like sitting back.
He's about a foot and a half behind the table,
legs crossed, like very kind of what would you call
it stoic, Yeah, reserves kind of like you know, like
I don't want to like even though the press conference
is for him. He was like, Okay, no, the man's
over here. Mike McDonald's the man. He's gonna sit up
(13:29):
at the table answer questions. And he did a good job.
You know, Clint did a good job answering questions. I thought,
you know, I thought, I absolutely think he's got the acumen.
He sounded like a smart guy. We'll talk to him
later today. I'm anxious to talk to him one on one.
But you know, there wasn't that persona no at all.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
No, No, Fletcher Baca was right.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I mean, after watching the press conference, do we think
that you know, Clint Kubiak has future head coach written
all over rob which is okay? Which is okay because
coordinate Steve Spagnola became a head coach and fan and
Fangio became a head coach and failed. Daryl Bevell was
never a head coach. I mean, Gus Bradley was not
a great head coach. I mean some of the greatest coordinators,
you know, Pete Kwakowski for crying out loud, you.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Anybody who spent time around Pete knows that Pete Kwakowski
is not a head coach. He's not a CEO. He
is a phenomenal defensive coordinator. And now he was with Sarka, Texas.
He was at UDUB for a long time here in Seattle.
So we've all been around guys like that that just
reek of coordinators and assistant coaches, and there's nothing wrong
with that because somebody has to do that job. Somebody
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has to be the guy to call a place. Somebody's
got to be the guy to coach the offensive line.
And I mean, look, I mean it's like Tom Cable
had a little run as the Raiders head coach.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
He wasn't a great head coach.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
But he was a hell of an offensive line well,
and he had a ton of examples of guys that
were better coordinators and assistants than they were head coaches.
My hope for Clint Kobiak is that he stays here
for a couple of years because he hasn't done that,
stopped in one place for longer than the season since
two thy twenty.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Well, and in a way it's almost a positive because
if you go into an inner and let's say you
are ten out of ten on charisma, right, and you
can just throw bs at people and they believe it.
That's right, And you're five out of ten on actual acumen.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Not gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
That's terrible to get it. So I'd much rather have
the opposite. I hope this's ten on acumen and five
on charisma.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
He just looks like the uh kind of the He's
he's the guy behind the behind the screen. He's the
Wizard of Oz, right, he's the he's the mad scientist.
You know, he's not going to be the guy that's
gonna be anybody you want to throw out there to
be like the CEO of an organization or you know,
marketing the product or blah blah blah. But he's he's
he's he's making the secret sauce. And that's the hope
for Clint Kubiak. But I mean it has become painfully obvious.
(15:40):
I think to everybody that Gino Smith isn't going anywhere, right,
And I just wonder what the reaction is, you know, four.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Nine four five one.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You put that well painfully obvious to a point where
if there was anybody out there who was thinking it
was going to be different, that's not gonna be the case.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Not that it's painful to have Geno back. That's not
what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that it's it's well,
maybe a little bit, it's.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Clear as day you look. I mean, I would like
to go in a different direction. I'd like to do
something else, But the forty four and a half million
dollar capit probably not gonna happen. They're gonna have to
renegotiate that and bring that number way down to make
it a little more team friendly for next season. But
I look, I don't think my stance on Gino has
really changed much at all. I think he's exceeded my
expectations when he became the starting quarterback after Russell Wilson
(16:24):
took off. I don't think he's the long term answer.
I don't think he's the guy that's gonna get the
Seahawks to a Super Bowl championship or even the Super
Bowl one day. But I do believe that in the interim,
as they groom somebody else, and I'm hoping the grooming process.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
God, that sounds creepy, I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Hoping the grooming process starts this year and that Gino
can be a great tutor for that guy.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I just right, where's where are we finding the groomy.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I don't know, dude, who do you know that Russell
Wilson was going to be great when he was taking
pick over?
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I'm hope and you know, and that's why watching Jalen
Hurts of the last years become a passer gives me
some hope that if you draft a freak athlete at
the position, that you can turn him into an accurate
quarterback if you give him enough time and you give
him enough.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Support around him.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
So, whether that's Jackson Dart, whether that's Jalen Milroe, whether
that's somebody you find in the third or fourth round,
Riley Leonard, somebody like that. I mean, maybe I'm just pulling.
I mean, that's the that's the bottom of right, like
a nine year old fat kids playing in a league.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
That's for six year old.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Yeah, have but Dick, and for every Jalen Hurts, there's
a Will Levis too, of course.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
But you're not going to draft.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
What I'm talking about is guys that we're not we're
not using massive collect My.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Point is is that and again this is I'm not
I'm not you know, this isn't some ridiculous take here, Guys,
I'm not trying to break new ground here. But people
run around the vMac and they run around the city
acting like they know guaranteed what's gonna happen in the draft,
and everybody's gonna suck and there's not gonna be any
free agents. I mean, what about Baker Mayfield? Like two
years ago, what about Sam Darnold Donald was crapped down
(18:04):
the stretch. I get that from Minnesota, But would you
take a Sam Donald type year out of your quarterback
next season?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Whoever that guy is?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Okay, So who's that guy who's the veteran free agent
backup quarterback career.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Backup or whoever?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
He says it's Daniel Jones. Maybe it's Daniel Jones, that's
who Hugh thinks. Maybe it's Kirk Cousins not maybe it's
Kirk Cousins. Maybe Kirk Cousins coming off the injury. Kirk
Cousins is obviously running around the Super Bowl telling people
that he was hurt in the Saint game in Week ten,
and that coincides with the Falcons falling apart. I mean,
who's gonna be this year's version of that? And maybe
Donald doesn't do or maybe Gino can't do what Mayfield
(18:39):
and Darnald did because the team is not as good
around him. I don't know what their offensive lines look like,
but they've got to fix the line first.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
And if they fix the line first, then I think
that Gino Smith can have a decent year next year.
But will they eventually need another answer as he.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Here's what's gonna tick me off, and this could absolutely happen.
Kirk Cousins goes to play for.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
P Carol, Right, Oh god, he throws for.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Like thirty five hundred yards Pete. You know, Pete's not
gonna chuck it all around the yard, right, but he's
gonna protect him.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
They're gonna run the ball.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
He's gonna have like a five or six to one
touchdown to interception ratio, and he's gonna have a passer
rating as good or better than Geno Smith for like
one twentieth the cost. And that's gonna piss me off.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Well, I'll tell you what I know. We're not supposed
to peak at the text line. I don't know what
your rule, as Andrews is the producer Djure of the
show rules.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Well, Jackson does. He gets it.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
He gets mad when I checked the text line the
first text here, I can't believe we have to suffer
through more of.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Gino shoot me now, come on, no, no, go to
zero six three. That's sticks pot, that's going way now.
You were texting the radio show, Jason, I'm not gonna
commit suicide based.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
On I hope not.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Can you imagine I couldn't handle it anymore?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Not another year? I couldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I'm sorry, I just couldn't handle it. All right, we're
gonna break. We're gonna talk to Clint Kubiak. How about
that at four o'clock today on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
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Speaker 2 (20:27):
All right back here at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center,
we're gonna hear from Clint Kubiak, brand new Seahawk offensive
coordinator coming up at four o'clock today with a guy
like that or a name like that, he's just gotta
be badass. Clint Kubiak. He will join us coming up
at four pm. John Wilner as well at five. But
let's go back to the press conference today. A little
bit from the offensive coordinator, kind of a little bit
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of an appeteezer for the interview that we're gonna run
coming up here at four o'clock. Clint Kubiak talking about
the draw the attractiveness is Geno Smith. Of Geno Smith
as a quarterback and the chance to coach him, check
this number one.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
Number one was have a chance to work with with
coach with Mike, to be on a team that's coached
with a with a dang good defense, because you know
how powerful that is, and we want to be able
to contribute to that and play complimentary football with them.
Gino Smith, DK, Metcalf Jackson, H Charles Cross.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
The list goes on.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
There's a lot of really dang football players on this
roster that, uh, that I'd love to coach. I want
to be a part of helping their careers and helping
them so we can win as a team. So I
think the personnel, the coaching staff here, John Snyder, the
reputation the Seattle Seahawks have as a as a first
class organization. So uh, that's just common doledge around the NFL.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
You think you forgot Jackson Smith and Jiggers name there
by the way, Yeah, just said Jackson, said DK Metcalf,
Gino Smith, Jackson, Charles Cross. Well, there was how to
blame the guy by the way he just got here.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
There was a while where when we draft him where
I couldn't quite remember if it was Smith and Jigba
were in Jigba Smith.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Wow, all right, Well, look, I mean I get the
defensive part of it for sure. I mean, he's going
to a football team that, if they play the kind
of defense that we think they're gonna play under Mike McDonald,
let's face facts, to win games a Clint Kubiak, that
offense is not gonna have to do a lot to
win games. I mean, obviously you want to score points.
So we're gonna ask him about that, by the way,
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when he comes on the air at four o'clock today.
But that to me would almost be the most attractive
part of this. That, my god, I'm gonna go play
for a guy who's one of the best defensive minds
in the world, and if his defense does what we
think it's gonna do, he's taking a lot of heat
off me.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Oh, there's no question, And I'd be Okay, if it
is complimentary football. If he scored less points per game
than Ryan Grubb did this year, that doesn't necessarily mean
he's doing a worse job. If your defensive points per
game come down significantly due to what your offense is
doing to help them as far as field position, as
far as can control of the clock, I mean, absolutely
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you can have a more successful offense even scoring less
points per game, because.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
It's all about the point differential. They gotta be better
in the red zone, for sure, no matter what. Better
running the ball for sure, no matter what, not make
as many. I mean, the touchdown to interception ratio for
the quarterback has got to get better. Those are three
things that have to improve. That's per care. But how
about the full back question? Check this out.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Your coach was asked.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
A lot about using Bier Murphy as a blocking back
last year, and he didn't do that last year like
he did in college.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
But do you envision.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Actually signing a fullback to be on the roster or
using a tight end defensive tackle.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
In that role.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
We're going through that process now with John and Mike,
but I think we're gonna we're gonna take a look
at all those things. I'm excited about the guys we
do have on the roster. We'll play tight ends in
the full back position for sure, but those are that's
a process right now.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Would you be supposed to using Byron Murphy?
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Byron's is not going to be our starting full back.
He might be there, but he's not going to start there.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
What if I would have just asked, hey, would you
consider starting Buyer Murphy at full back and.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Pull him off the defensive life.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I mean, they could have used anybody they wanted to
as a full back a year ago. And that's not
just done Grub that's the head coach too. If they
wanted to use a full back or a blocking back,
a tight end, a defensive end, a defensive tackle.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
How an offensive lineman to come into the game.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Didn't the Seahawks used to use like Gary Gilliams sometimes
in that role as almost a tight end as a blocker.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
They never did that, Not one time last year did
they do that. It wasn't creative.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Well, there wasn't a lot of creativity. There wasn't creativity.
And where they lined up DK Metcalf and how they
got DK Metcalf the ball.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I still didn't.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I asked, I've asked you this question, and he was
kind of a fuddled as well why it didn't happen
like DK Metcalf. The the complaints about DK Metcalf were
what he was covered by too many guys. Okay, well,
get him the ball before the defense can cover him,
meaning get him the ball on your side of the
line of scrimmage. The defense can't cover that. And now
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he's got the ball in his hands and he's running
straight ahead and rolling people over.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, I think how they used him is going to
be really a curiosity for me. There's no question about that.
I think Tyler Lockett staying here, no question, is going
to be obviously a big, you know, a question for
these guys.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
What's the third clip we have? By the way, that
was my question. Ken, Okay, but Ken Walker check this out.
Go ahead, Cleat.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
You talked about the importance of running football very early
up there. Talk about Ken and how you envision him
fitting your style of run game.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Well, I think Ken can can fit in just about
in any style. He's a talented player, so I'm really
excited about him in his own scheme. Okay, but I've
seen Ken in all schemes, play really good a football
I've seen. I've seen the guy catch the ball well
out of the backfield. I think is really important for
our backs. So we utilize him obviously, whatever we can
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do to get him touches, throwing them, throwing them outside
of the backfield, throwing them screens, get the ball in
their hands, getting the ball to our best runners.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
And that's what he is.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
So and I think he's got a really good group
of teammates that compliment him as well, and especially with Charbonnay.
So looking forward to him in this scheme, and we're
gonna ask a.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Lot at him. Yeah, I like the idea of just
getting this guy touches.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
He had one hundred and fifty three carries forty six,
so he had one hundred and ninety nine touches a
year ago. He had over two hundred and fifty or
two hundred and forty the year before. Obviously, got banged
up and he missed five games last year.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
He missed two of the year before that and two
of the year before that.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
But I think a fifty catch season with you know,
one hundred and eighty plus carries, two hundred carries for
Kenny Walker is not out of a question.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Man.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah, two hundred plus is rookie year. He had two
hundred and fifty five touches and that was with only
twenty seven carries our receptions. Rather, so, I think I
think in that two hundred and thirty carry range, like
you said, fifty more catches get him up pushing the
three hundred touch mark. I think that's very, very possible
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for Ken Walker. Yeah, I don't think he's injury plagued.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I don't see a guy think so.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I mean, he missed two games his first year, two
games a second year for a running back. That's kind
of par for the course. You don't want to see
him miss five and so yeah, if he misses another
five games this year, then that injury plague label I
think can come on because it's more than just a fluke.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
If it happens to you, I was just gonna say,
this is a big year for that narrative.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Man, he gets hurt again and he misses I mean, look,
I mean, dude, when you're missing five games, you're missing
almost a third of the year for God's sake.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
So he can't do that again.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
He can't miss another month worth of football and if
that happens again this season, it's gonna be really hard
to fight the injury plague narrative. Man, I mean, I'm
not saying that he's you know, who is mister Glass
so we had procise. He's not precise, you know, I
mean yeah, or I mean look, but the difference between
Penny and Precise is that Penny looked like he was
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built to take hits. Precise never did right. Penny just
had horrible does luck with injuries. Kenny Walker's is the
same way. I mean, if you stand next to Kenny Walker,
this guy is built to absorb contact in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
He just had bad luck with it so far.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I'm not expecting Kenny Walker to be Christian McCaffrey right
where he's getting like three hundred touches a year. I mean,
Barkley had three hundred and seventy eight last year. He
was pushing four hundred with Philadelphia. I don't think Kenny
Walker is ever gonna be that guy. Not with Zach
Charbonday in Seattle after the year, he I think we're
gonna see more of him this season. But I do
think that the injury plague thing, if that happens again,
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this season. It's gonna be really hard, Dick to fight
that off. Yeah, I think this is your four al right,
and let's just look at the numbers.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
We we just told you about ken Walker's fifteen, fifteen
and twelve, his three seeds. As far as game plays,
here's we're shot Penny's when he was a seahawk fourteen ten,
three ten five. Like that's injury plague.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Ken Washer is not insured at least now, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
all right, we're gonna break a little fun with audio.
Slash hated you hear that coming up next to ninety
three three KJRFM.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
It's now time for Sufday in Dick's Fun with Audio.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Now let's have some fun with audio.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
All right.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
We're back here on a Tuesday afternoon from the Virginia
Mason Athletic Center aka the vMac, hanging out live on
a Tuesday afternoon. But hey, just because we're here a
non studio doesn't mean we can't take fun with audio
with us, and that's what we're doing now. Tens of
people are looking forward to this segment right now. We
have ten, maybe thirty forty could be I don't know.
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Call your buddies, get him on board. Hey, Dick, did
you happen to hear that?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Let's start, by the way, if we can, I'm gonna
switch this list up here and you're let's go number two.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
To start off.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
On the Overtime podcast, Cam Newton talks to Travis Hunter
from Colorado about his realizations about being the number one
overall pick in the draft.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
Well, that was the first pick, a locker room of losers,
the top pick. Let's put it in perspective. You're the top.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Pick because what no, no, no, no. That you're looking at
it from a personal situation. I'm talking about from the
professional situation.
Speaker 8 (30:11):
You're the top pick because that was the worst team
in the NFL the year before.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
For me, I wanted to be the number one pick.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
You could potentially be the first pick, but bro, you
have no way of impacting the game like a quarterback does.
You can lock down the number one receiver, you can
make impact players on offense all you want, but it's
still not like a quarterback. My issue is when I
was the first pick, I went into a locker room
of losers.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Guys, didn't know how to win, guys don't know how
to prepare. It was a culture shock for me.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
The games don't mean a lot to a lot of
people in the league like you would expect.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
It's just money.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
Not everybody has capabilities to be impact players.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
They're just players.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
He is one of the most unlikable people I've ever
come around.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
By the way, Oh, I don't disagree with that, but
I do agree with what he had to say there, sure.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
But there's a lot of things that you would agree
with that you probably wouldn't say right, Like would you
want your ex teammates.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
To hear your quarterback talking like that? No?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
You know, I mean Steve Smith came out and just
crapped all over him. And by the way, if Cam
Newton went into a locker room full of losers, what
was the locker room like when he started fourteen games
and won five in two thousand and eight?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Was he a loser?
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Then?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yes? He was? I mean, come on, dude, yes he was.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
I think I think Cam Newton truly only believes he
played one year in the NFL and he went fifteen
and one and made the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
He is just I don't know if there's a more
unlikable guy, I mean, honestly, current or ex player.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
What does PN keep putting him on? Yeah, well that
was Travis Hunters contact.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
That was Travis Hunters pod, right, I know that was,
But yes, he has put him on. I've seen Cam
Newton more in the last month on ESPN than I've
seen him in years.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Well, they put him on TV because dipsticks like us
will talk about it, That's why.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
And he likes to work because idiots like us respond
to it.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
You can always count on the idiot faction meeting guys
like Softy and Dick Faine in Seattle who will sit
there like puppy dogs and just wait for scrap to
fall off the table and swallow everything up. All right,
that's why, because idiots like us keep talking about it.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?
Let's go to number one.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
On this day, thirty five years ago, Mike Tyson in
Tokyo was knocked out by Buster Douglas. Here's how the
end of the fight sounded. Courtesy of HBO pay per
View and Jim Lampley. On February the eleventh of nineteen ninety.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Tyson is virtually a one eyed fighter at this point.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
A disparate one eyed fighter crawling willingly.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Just to try to get in the shut. That will
finish things in what.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
An upper cut mine dounlesis down, goes Tyson.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Tyson has been knocked down.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I believe it.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
This makes Cinderella look like a sad story.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
What Buster Douglas has done here tonight.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Let's go ahead and call it the biggest upset in
the history of heavyweight championship fights.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Say it now, gentlemen, James Buster.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
Douglas, undisputed heavyweight Champion of the World.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Jim Lampley, Larry Merchant, and Sugar Ray Leonard on HBO
pay per view that night. I remember exactly where I
want you watch absolutely.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I watched. My dad was seventeen years old. I was fifteen.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
We used to watch all the Tyson fights back in
the day. Get a bunch of guys together, all the
Tyson fights. Find somebody's house, chip in five ten bucks apiece.
I was at the basement of my buddies dad's house,
Matt Jones, who lived in the Crossroads area, his dad Bill,
and we're watching the fight together.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
We could not believe what we were watching.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
It was the most shocking sports event I've ever seen
in my life.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Dad wouldn't get it because it was fifty bucks, and
I don't blame him.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
It was thirty five years ago. Fifty dollars was a
lot of money. But you also thought the fight would
last thirty Secondly.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
So I remember we went out to dinner.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I think he even said, I can buy you all
dinner tonight for the same amount as the fight. And
I came home dinners, went right to ESPN because it
was blacked out. Obviously he had to pay for us.
I went right to ESPN. They were talking. It was
like Charlie Steiner was breaking down. What just happens? Like,
oh my god, he lost.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Buster Douglas couldn't even believe it. Man, it was again,
I've never seen something more shocking than that. Thirty five
years ago, thirty five years ago today, was that fight unbelievable.
In the words of Sugar Ray Leonard, all right, eight, Dick,
did you happen to here?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Lod? What's that? Dick? Let's go to blah?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
How about number three NFL Draft prospects Schador Sanders was
I'm a Kevin Clark at Radio row with the Super
Bowl and was asked which NFL quarterback he studies.
Speaker 10 (34:52):
This was his response, That was my own tape and
fee like, okay, we'll kind and improved.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
That's where I see.
Speaker 10 (34:58):
I'm able to see, okay, the flaws in my game
and what I gotta get better at and will make
me a very flawless quarterback and will help me exceed
at the next level. So I can't look up to
nobody because those those are the people I'm playing against.
I can't idolize the mind about to play against, Like,
that's not to me, That's not a thing I would do.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
I like that outwork. I've never heard that before.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Yeah, that's a good, that's a good. That's a good
way for me.
Speaker 10 (35:22):
My dad the best player that I ever played a game.
You think you think I got other people I look
up to like that? Nah, he didne did it. So
if it's anybody outside of him, then that's that's a
little bit disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Wells that played corner.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, so he wouldn't be watching his dad. He had
throw one pass like, hey, shoot, you ever watch your
dad to learn how to play quarterback in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I mean it's kind of unique.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
You know, there's a lot about Shador I'm not a
huge fan of, but I mean I can kind of
get it that you feel kind of weird just looking
at other guys. Maybe guys that are not playing you'd
feel less weird about, right, like some of the great
quarterbacks Michael or Dan Marino.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Or Elway or whoever blah up Brady.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I mean, I think every quarterback, and I'm sure Millan
would agree with this because he's the president of the
Tom Brady Fan Club, every quarterback should look at Tom
Brady's footwork and decision making in the pocket because he
might be the best ever do I.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Think, regardless of the sport, I think young guys should
watch the best of the best, right, I mean you
should take take little parts of lots of different you know,
we're like my brain so focused on golf, Like like
my son takes looks at different players and takes different
things out of Now he's Shador, Sanders and overall pick
but like you can still take things from professionals, even though,
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like Shadur, you're gonna be ending up playing them next year.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Well, I mean sometimes I'll do the opposite and listen
to other radio shows and learn what not to do, right,
I mean it's I listen for That's the show for
two hours every day. I get a lot of good information.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I just think he's he's kind of setting himself up
to get his balls busted a little bit, like if
he struggles in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Geez Shador, maybe you should have watched is that Brady Tapo?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Right?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?
Let's go to how about number five?
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Andrews afterwards reported the Suns were interested in moving Kevin
Durant and nothing ended up happening. At the deadline, ESPN
reporter Ramona Shelburne talks about the atmosphere in the locker
room on NBA Countdown yesterday.
Speaker 11 (37:25):
Ramona shelburn you've been talking with folks around the Phoenix organization.
Can you just take us inside the conversations that McMahon
is talking about right now, because this is something that
would be incredibly difficult to recover from.
Speaker 9 (37:37):
Yeah, the word I would use him he said, glom.
I'll use toxic.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (37:41):
Like like that shoot around yesterday I heard was very awkward,
very weird in Oklahoma City because everybody was on pins
and needles wondering what they were going to do. And
I think now you have this reset, where do you
how do you move forward to the team when there
was a clear mandaid here, like they have to do something,
and if they're not able to get anything done, which
is as we say, you talked about it in the open,
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there's a Britons, there's all this stuff. It's really hard
to do something. And the thing they were trying to
do did not come to fruition because Kevin Durant said no.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I can see how it'd be a little weird, right
if you know a team tried to move you, Like,
what does Luis Castillo think right now? You think Luis
Castillo has in some privy to information where the Mariners
tried to trade him well and they couldn't do it,
and he's still here in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
I think there's a difference between whether he hears that
other teams were interested in him and the Mariners didn't
make a deal, or that the Mariners were actively shopping.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Well, but what's but which is it?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I don't know where the Mariners actively shopping Luis Castillo,
I thought they were.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I thought we heard from people and.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
They might still be to night.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
It could be.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I mean, I'm just saying, let's just live in a
world for a second where he does find that out
right where the Mariners were trying to trade him and
they couldn't get a deal done.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Is that going to piss Luis Castillo off?
Speaker 6 (38:58):
Probably not him, just knowing his personal but I think
it seems like Kevin Durant, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, I think it's different basketball for sure. Oh different
basketball than baseball, no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
And surprise, surprise, our last cut, Kevin Durant actually heard
what somebody was talking about when they were talking about him,
like he never does that.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Play this clip Kevin Durant addressing that comment you just
heard there from Ramona Shelburn Go ahead, yeah, I heard.
Speaker 12 (39:19):
Ramona showbouring im out say our locker room is socksy.
I'm trying to tell people who don't it's not around
this game as much as that.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
It's easy to say.
Speaker 12 (39:29):
Our locker room is not connected when you come in
there forty five minutes before and guys win in game modes,
we're not talking to each other for if my guys
might be in the training room, a.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Few guys might be in the weight room.
Speaker 12 (39:40):
It's just it's not a welcome environment right before.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
The game, you know what I'm saying. That's just just
hard of getting ready to play, you know.
Speaker 12 (39:46):
So I think it's unfair and lazy to categorize our
team as toxic when you coming there for five minutes
about four months, that's the only time.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
You've been in our locker room, Dan, when you can
make a narrative.
Speaker 12 (39:58):
I don't think that's fair for us.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
But like I said, this part of game. That's part
of business. Signed, but you gotta do accept.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Uh. I mean, look, I wish I could like Kevin Durant.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I was just gonna say, if he hadn't played for
the Sonics that one year and did not do that
thing where he's egging the crowd on during the Maverick game,
I think I would really dislike him.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yes you would were you absolutely would.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
But he's not a dislikable person.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
But he's just so sense. He gets suckered in.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
He gets suckered into every little stupid thing, right, And
I mean, I don't know. Ramota Shelburn's a good reporter. Clearly,
she's hearing that from somebody inside the organization. It's not
like she shows up for five minutes, observes that and
then goes and writes about it. She's being told that
by something correct, right, So, and I can see how
that would make sense if a team tried to trade
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somebody and they couldn't do it. I mean, the guy
might be kind of pissed off and it might be
a problem. And if they did try to trade him,
there's a reason why they tried to make them move
because he's not a great fit. I mean, we thought
he had they had to deal with Golden State and
they said no.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Right. I don't know, man, I just missed the NBA.
We need the drama.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
There's no sport on the planet. It comes along with
drama the way the NBA.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
I don't know if you are, but I know and
and I are looking on very much forward to the
next three months of the NBA.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Gonna be awesome stretch. It'd be awesomer if we had
our own teams, right.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
We know what.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Our own team wouldn't be one of these fifty five
sixty win teams anyway, they'd be like right off the bat.
They'd be like the Hornets. We nobody be talking about
him at this time of year.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
They'd be twenty and sixty two.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
We'd have players going after players and coaches and Burnie
Maxwell throwing waits, and Mary Payton and Marcus Johnson going
out to get his gun and all that stuff. It'd
be phenomenal. Oh, that was in a movie. Never mind,
we're gonna break Clinton Kobiac, the new offensive coordinator of
your Seattle Seahawks, joins next
No from the Star Rentals Sports to us your ninety
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Alrighty kiddos, here we go on a Tuesday afternoon live
from the Virginia Mason Athletics Center. Headlines on Softie and
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Speaker 3 (00:22):
Baby, you're an idiot, you don't know baseball?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, how about we start with some news in baseball?
Oh see the Clayton Kershawn news. Going back to the
Dodgers for an eighteenth year on a one year deal.
The three time sight On Award winner, though coming off
a surgery in November and may not be good to
go until June. And if you're a Ty France fan, congratulations.
He assigned a one year deal with the Minnesota Twins.
How about that one million dollars if he breaks team.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
One million dollars?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Uh Luca fourteen points in twenty four minutes in his
Laker debut last not a one thirty two one thirteen
blowout went over at Utah and today the Lakers have
found a big man.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I don't know if he's a good big man. He's
just a big man.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Seven footer Alex Lehnn, former Sacramento King.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Imagine being seven foot tall and sucking at basketball. How
bad that would be? What else we got? More news
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Officially now the Eagles offensive coordinator Kellen Moore, thirty six
years old Prosser High School Boys to State QB, officially
announced as the new Saints head coach. He's three years older,
by the way, than Saints quarterback Derek Carr.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
The royal and ancient following the USGA's path allowing anyone
that's in the top five of the live standings after
June of Vena Dallas to compete in the Open champions
It's all coming together, Dave.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I'm telling they're gonna charge us five times more for
the stuff we had five years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
More news NFL.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
We're gonna hear from Kin Kubiak, by the way, at
four o'clock today, the new OC of the Hawks the
Seahawks today the officially adding three more assistant coaches, including
offensive line coach John Benton, quarterback coach Andrew Janako, and
offensive assistant Michael Bernon. If you're wondering, by the way,
what happened to Scott Huff, He's gonna take the tight
ends job with the la Rams.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
There we go, goofy wacko, out.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Of touch Homers just bree radio just.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
For the forty one yards from an iliat day.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Can you feel it down?
Speaker 5 (02:13):
This is softy and dick.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That mistake number one don't even last five seconds. Yeah, yesterday,
walk yesterday. You're pretty good, Andrews. I'd say that's a
hit by pitch with the first pitch of the game.
Grilled the guy right at first. Nobody you already just
drilled me right, and it took us with the very
first pitch of the game, ninety eight miles an hour,
bang right to the backside.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
I can get out of the gym, I guess Jesus.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Okay, well, we got a six four to three coming out.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I'm just saying, if you can drive a truck sideways
through that seguay By the way, my god, it was
a whole but hey.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
We're on remote.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
We're at the Seahawks facility, the Virginia Mason Athletics Center.
Uh and we always like to test our mic levels
when we're on remote, you know, because sometimes you kind
of turn.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Your mic up and things down a little terrible. Hello.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Jackson usually tells us off the ear how we sounded.
Apparently Andrews thought he had the audio levels all mixed.
But you said we were popping our p's there and
he pumped eight up on the air.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Is it still happening?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I think part of the reason is we're using the
same comrades that I used in the Takomad.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
High School podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
So yeah, I think Bob Blackbird may have called a
sonic game on this thing. We found this in the
closet from about the one ninety Queen Ann building.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
It was in the freaking basement and it's got his
name on it right there. Bosses. Yeah, this isn't a
normal one. We use it the Queen. No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
But anyway, that's that's just stuff that people don't need
to know. That's behind the scenes stuff. I mean, Richard's like,
what do you tell people that? Because it's funny, that's why.
Because there's nothing better in this business than self deprecation.
We are using we are popping still again down a
fine fine would just do this live on the air.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
How's that? Is that better? Yeah? My gone? Can you
still hear me? You can hear it? Really? Because I
can't hear a damn thing. By the way, you know
what I need. I need an endorsement for like a
hearing clinic or something like that. I can't hear any
My hearing is shot. It's unbelievable. You get my car.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
If I leave my car stereo on and then just
turn off my car and you get in my car,
your ears will blow getting into my car. Yeah, it's
like spinal tap. You turn everything up to eleven?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
What was that? I mean?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I honestly may have like really bad hearing damage. Well
your well, don't you feel bad for what you do
for a living?
Speaker 4 (04:23):
You wear headphones at level eleven out of ten for
four hours a day.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I mean you're gonna get well.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I don't know, man, I just got to go see
somebody because my wife is this is a problem, and
I want to know if your wifes do the same thing.
My wife and I will be like on a walk
with the dogs outside whatever, there's cars going by, there's noise,
blah blah blah, and she'll be in front of me
looking the just like you know, north of me.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
She'll talk and she'll and she'll expect me to hear.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
She's like, you're deaf. I'm like, dude, nobody could hear that.
Nobody could? Like, what do you so? That is like her?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Her? Her?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Uh? Her? What sort of looking for her?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Baseline for whether or not I can hear or not
is whether or not I can hear her while she's
walking in front of me and looking away from me.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
It's like, nobody could hear that? Man, I can't. I
can't wait for Friday. I'm gonna what's happening Friday. I
don't know if we can do it or not. Something
came up, Yeah, something came up with a horse. We
got a problem with the horse. I'm not sure what
we're doing.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
You got to see a man about a horse. I
do see.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I gotta go drop some friends off with a pool
and see a guy about a horse.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I don't know, we'll see. I mean we maybe we'll
have her call in or something forward to that. Even
when on my vacation I tuned that in.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
See.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I think I think what we should do as a
new Valentine's Day tradition is you know you you get
to be almost fifty two years old and yours and
you'll realize when you're our age that you kind of
run out of gift ideas for your wife. You know,
it becomes harder. Really yeah, well it's gonna get worse.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Trust me, we don't do it. We don't do Valentis Well,
you do cards.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
She'll ask me, do you want to do Valentine's gifts?
I'm like, you know, I mean, I'll buy some candy.
But then the problem with me is the candies in
the house.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
And I can't have candy in the house.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Oh yeah, because the old fat guy will come out
and just gobble it all up, walk down at two
o'clock in the morning, just eat it all right?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Or would she be like, why are you getting me candy? Oh?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
She loves candy. She is My wife has a major
sweet tooth. Loves candy, loves ice cream, is her favorite
thing in the world.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Loves Ben and Jerry's cookido it's her favorite ice cream.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Loves them.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
So you know.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
But the point is is that I think, you know,
for us, like, what do we really.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Want for Valentine's Day?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Peace, Well, nothing exactly, So how about we do this
for an idea, Andrews, you're married, Jackson's married, Dick is married,
I'm married, Farnessa's married.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Uh is the new guy married? Mark James?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And I'll think, so Chuck's not married, Bucky's married. How
about the freaking wives come in? How about the wags
come in on Valentine's Day? Give us the day off,
let him yack with each other, let them go on
the air and gossip question.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
I say, yeah, who would be the one to take over?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And they can tell stories, they can make stuff. Would
absolutely be alpha dog in that. Gina used to work
at the radio station, so it's kind of unfair it's there.
She might do that, but I would love it for
we let's start a new tradition. Our wives have jobs, though, well,
then they can take it out.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
They're gonna take me Wait a second, they're gonna take
a vay cases work.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
My wife's boss, Dan Dan Sheridan would give Gina the
day off in a second to have her host the
radio show with Jana Fane and Rise of Felts or
Augustina Hurst.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, okay, did you take your last name? By the way, Yes,
she did. Good, there you go. That'd be fantastic.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, you would not want to hear that. People can
text in calling it all the dirt. Ono's all the
scoop actually said, they can even make stuff up. I
don't even care. My wife and day off and they do.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Ow.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
She loves the chief main, which is gossip in Spanish.
It's like her favorite thing. So she what chief may?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Cheese may? Yeah, cheese may are sandwich for lunch?
Speaker 4 (07:51):
And are you gonna name your first kid Lionel?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
No?
Speaker 6 (07:55):
I think every every person in Argentina already does that, so.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I don't or their dogs, right. Yeah, Well, we got
a big show. Clint Kubi acts to join us in
about fifty minutes from now at four o'clock today, we're
going to a chance to hear from the new OC
of the Seahawks, a little fun with audio before that,
three forty five John Wilder joining us at five o'clock
and then Greg Diga Gigabell will be with us for
some Seahawks chatter. Yes he's still doing that, by the way.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Don't worry. He'll join us in the six pm hour.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
But you know, the press conference today, I mean, it's
just so hard for me, man, because everybody will last
things like, Hey, would you make of the press or what.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Was your big takeaway for the press conference? I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I mean the fact that he said he wants a
full back that stood out to me. That's cool, right
to hear him talking about actually wanting a full back
on the roster. The fact that he wants to run
the ball great, the fact that he wants to get
dk Metcalf the ball great. I mean, how much do
we really take from this press conference today? That really
means a damn thing until we see these guys playing.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Sometimes well, part of the reason he came is because
of Gino Smith. I mean, I think that's do you
really believe that though he's gonna I don't know what
to believe because I heard I heard our head coach
two months ago say yeah, I think he's gonna come back,
and then too and then this last week say, oh
my got Geno Samith.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
That's freaking awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I'm telling you, so, Tod Aaron Levine, would you ask
me so let's give you a different answer this time,
But honestly, like, do we really believe that Clint Kubiak
And look, maybe he only had the one option I have.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
No idea property options Clint Kubiak had. But when he
looks at the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And maybe, look, it's possible, he tells himself, Hey, at
least they've got something.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
At quarterback, right, like what would be interview?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
I have no idea one of the world has like
a good quarterback, right.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Because there are football teams out there that would have
open positions that would have slop at quarterback. Like let's say,
for example, Pete Carroll wanted him with the Raiders, right,
and it's Garden minshew and Aidan o'ka. Okay, so yes,
I could see how going to coach Geno Smith and
Seattle would be more attractive than coaching the Raiders with
Aiden O'Connell and Genos and Gardner Minshew. But do we
(09:59):
believe that and he said that because he was the
best available option of all the jobs he was offered,
or do we believe that this guy really thinks that, Hey,
Geno Smith can be a top ten quarterback in the
NFL and he could make me a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Well, the word that he used today to describe Geno
worried me a lot, saying which one the word aggressive
he likes? I like Geno's aggressiveness, and I'm sitting there.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Going, I don't like Geno's Andanders Dick is literally in
the audience at the waving his.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Hand when he said I love Geno's aggressiveness. I fly,
I had a flashback the whore. I had a flashback
to sitting in my seats at Lumen Field against the Rams,
looking down into my left as Gino Smith tried to
thread a pass between three Ram defenders at the five
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yard line and it went ninety five yards the other way.
That's what I thought when I thought of aggressiveness. Yeah, well,
Dick wants to throw the ball five times a game.
He wants to run sixty five times a game.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I mean, I thought it was really funny when Mike
McDonald started channing at the podium today right in front
of Clint Kubiak. But I don't know, man, I mean,
I just kind of feel like, hey, look, we get
to know the guy's a person a little bit. We
get to know his personality a little bit. We get
to find out about his history, kind of where he's been.
You know, he's got four kids. I guess right at
the age of thirty, he's the same age as Mike McDonald. Right,
(11:25):
So remember when they hired Ryan Grubb. The deal was, Hey,
he's a first year rookie NFL offensive coordinator, but he's
forty eight years old. This guy has called plays in
the NFL for a couple of years now, but he's
also thirty seven years old.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
He's been at five teams in five years.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Hoping he stops and kind of, you know, find some
footing a little bit for him and his family. But
I think this is I just go back to the
same take I had after the Seahawks fired Grub and
after all these names U Dinski and blah blah blah
started coming up. The guy from the Lions, Hayley, whatever
the hell his name was, or was it something else?
What was the name of the guy from the Lions
off I don't really care who the offensive coordinator is. Man,
(12:04):
I really don't find me some lineman. Find me some
freaking offensive lineman, find me some players, and let's run fair.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
No, I think that's fair.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
I think I think offensive coordinators are kind of like
Major League Baseball managers. There's five great ones, there's five
awful ones, and there's twenty in the middle. Yep and
and that's you know, that's kind of the way it
is with the with offensive coordinators. But I did remember,
you know, remember what Fletcher Mackle told us last week, right,
Fletcher mackel from New Orleans came on. A reporter from
(12:32):
the Saints came on and said, Hey, I like Clint Kubiak.
He's not going to be a head coach though, And
we were like, well, what do you mean He's not
gonna be a head coach? And he's like personal, he
doesn't have the charisma, sure, the personality to be a
head coach. And as we sat down today and you
can see if you guys look at the press conference
on online, Mike McDonald sits down, he scoots up in
(12:55):
his chair. He's got his huge guns and his extra
small olo shirt busting out right, he's got his elbows
on the table. He's looking at us. You know, he's
got that glare you can like you can.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
See through you.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
And then next to him, Clint Kubiak, he's like sitting back.
He's about a foot and a half behind the table,
legs crossed, like very kind of what would you call
it stoic, Yeah, reserves kind of like you know, like
I don't want to like even though the press conference
is for him. He was like, Okay, no, the man's
over here. Mike McDonald's the man. He's gonna sit up
(13:29):
at the table answer questions. And he did a good job.
You know, Clint did a good job answering questions. I thought,
you know, I thought, I absolutely think he's got the acumen.
He sounded like a smart guy. We'll talk to him
later today. I'm anxious to talk to him one on one.
But you know, there wasn't that persona no at all.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
No, No, Fletcher Baca was right.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I mean, after watching the press conference, do we think
that you know, Clint Kubiak has future head coach written
all over rob which is okay? Which is okay because
coordinate Steve Spagnola became a head coach and fan and
Fangio became a head coach and failed. Daryl Bevell was
never a head coach. I mean, Gus Bradley was not
a great head coach. I mean some of the greatest coordinators,
you know, Pete Kwakowski for crying out loud, you.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Anybody who spent time around Pete knows that Pete Kwakowski
is not a head coach. He's not a CEO. He
is a phenomenal defensive coordinator. And now he was with Sarka, Texas.
He was at UDUB for a long time here in Seattle.
So we've all been around guys like that that just
reek of coordinators and assistant coaches, and there's nothing wrong
with that because somebody has to do that job. Somebody
(14:31):
has to be the guy to call a place. Somebody's
got to be the guy to coach the offensive line.
And I mean, look, I mean it's like Tom Cable
had a little run as the Raiders head coach.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
He wasn't a great head coach.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
But he was a hell of an offensive line well,
and he had a ton of examples of guys that
were better coordinators and assistants than they were head coaches.
My hope for Clint Kobiak is that he stays here
for a couple of years because he hasn't done that,
stopped in one place for longer than the season since
two thy twenty.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Well, and in a way it's almost a positive because
if you go into an inner and let's say you
are ten out of ten on charisma, right, and you
can just throw bs at people and they believe it.
That's right, And you're five out of ten on actual acumen.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Not gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
That's terrible to get it. So I'd much rather have
the opposite. I hope this's ten on acumen and five
on charisma.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
He just looks like the uh kind of the He's
he's the guy behind the behind the screen. He's the
Wizard of Oz, right, he's the he's the mad scientist.
You know, he's not going to be the guy that's
gonna be anybody you want to throw out there to
be like the CEO of an organization or you know,
marketing the product or blah blah blah. But he's he's
he's he's making the secret sauce. And that's the hope
for Clint Kubiak. But I mean it has become painfully obvious.
(15:40):
I think to everybody that Gino Smith isn't going anywhere, right,
And I just wonder what the reaction is, you know, four.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Nine four five one.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You put that well painfully obvious to a point where
if there was anybody out there who was thinking it
was going to be different, that's not gonna be the case.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Not that it's painful to have Geno back. That's not
what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that it's it's well,
maybe a little bit, it's.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Clear as day you look. I mean, I would like
to go in a different direction. I'd like to do
something else, But the forty four and a half million
dollar capit probably not gonna happen. They're gonna have to
renegotiate that and bring that number way down to make
it a little more team friendly for next season. But
I look, I don't think my stance on Gino has
really changed much at all. I think he's exceeded my
expectations when he became the starting quarterback after Russell Wilson
(16:24):
took off. I don't think he's the long term answer.
I don't think he's the guy that's gonna get the
Seahawks to a Super Bowl championship or even the Super
Bowl one day. But I do believe that in the interim,
as they groom somebody else, and I'm hoping the grooming process.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
God, that sounds creepy, I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Hoping the grooming process starts this year and that Gino
can be a great tutor for that guy.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I just right, where's where are we finding the groomy.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I don't know, dude, who do you know that Russell
Wilson was going to be great when he was taking
pick over?
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I'm hope and you know, and that's why watching Jalen
Hurts of the last years become a passer gives me
some hope that if you draft a freak athlete at
the position, that you can turn him into an accurate
quarterback if you give him enough time and you give
him enough.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Support around him.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
So, whether that's Jackson Dart, whether that's Jalen Milroe, whether
that's somebody you find in the third or fourth round,
Riley Leonard, somebody like that. I mean, maybe I'm just pulling.
I mean, that's the that's the bottom of right, like
a nine year old fat kids playing in a league.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
That's for six year old.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Yeah, have but Dick, and for every Jalen Hurts, there's
a Will Levis too, of course.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
But you're not going to draft.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
What I'm talking about is guys that we're not we're
not using massive collect My.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Point is is that and again this is I'm not
I'm not you know, this isn't some ridiculous take here, Guys,
I'm not trying to break new ground here. But people
run around the vMac and they run around the city
acting like they know guaranteed what's gonna happen in the draft,
and everybody's gonna suck and there's not gonna be any
free agents. I mean, what about Baker Mayfield? Like two
years ago, what about Sam Darnold Donald was crapped down
(18:04):
the stretch. I get that from Minnesota, But would you
take a Sam Donald type year out of your quarterback
next season?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Whoever that guy is?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Okay, So who's that guy who's the veteran free agent
backup quarterback career.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Backup or whoever?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
He says it's Daniel Jones. Maybe it's Daniel Jones, that's
who Hugh thinks. Maybe it's Kirk Cousins not maybe it's
Kirk Cousins. Maybe Kirk Cousins coming off the injury. Kirk
Cousins is obviously running around the Super Bowl telling people
that he was hurt in the Saint game in Week ten,
and that coincides with the Falcons falling apart. I mean,
who's gonna be this year's version of that? And maybe
Donald doesn't do or maybe Gino can't do what Mayfield
(18:39):
and Darnald did because the team is not as good
around him. I don't know what their offensive lines look like,
but they've got to fix the line first.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
And if they fix the line first, then I think
that Gino Smith can have a decent year next year.
But will they eventually need another answer as he.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Here's what's gonna tick me off, and this could absolutely happen.
Kirk Cousins goes to play for.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
P Carol, Right, Oh god, he throws for.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Like thirty five hundred yards Pete. You know, Pete's not
gonna chuck it all around the yard, right, but he's
gonna protect him.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
They're gonna run the ball.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
He's gonna have like a five or six to one
touchdown to interception ratio, and he's gonna have a passer
rating as good or better than Geno Smith for like
one twentieth the cost. And that's gonna piss me off.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Well, I'll tell you what I know. We're not supposed
to peak at the text line. I don't know what
your rule, as Andrews is the producer Djure of the
show rules.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Well, Jackson does. He gets it.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
He gets mad when I checked the text line the
first text here, I can't believe we have to suffer
through more of.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Gino shoot me now, come on, no, no, go to
zero six three. That's sticks pot, that's going way now.
You were texting the radio show, Jason, I'm not gonna
commit suicide based.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
On I hope not.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Can you imagine I couldn't handle it anymore?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Not another year? I couldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I'm sorry, I just couldn't handle it. All right, we're
gonna break. We're gonna talk to Clint Kubiak. How about
that at four o'clock today on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick on your home for
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Speaker 2 (20:27):
All right back here at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center,
we're gonna hear from Clint Kubiak, brand new Seahawk offensive
coordinator coming up at four o'clock today with a guy
like that or a name like that, he's just gotta
be badass. Clint Kubiak. He will join us coming up
at four pm. John Wilner as well at five. But
let's go back to the press conference today. A little
bit from the offensive coordinator, kind of a little bit
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of an appeteezer for the interview that we're gonna run
coming up here at four o'clock. Clint Kubiak talking about
the draw the attractiveness is Geno Smith. Of Geno Smith
as a quarterback and the chance to coach him, check
this number one.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
Number one was have a chance to work with with
coach with Mike, to be on a team that's coached
with a with a dang good defense, because you know
how powerful that is, and we want to be able
to contribute to that and play complimentary football with them.
Gino Smith, DK, Metcalf Jackson, H Charles Cross.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
The list goes on.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
There's a lot of really dang football players on this
roster that, uh, that I'd love to coach. I want
to be a part of helping their careers and helping
them so we can win as a team. So I
think the personnel, the coaching staff here, John Snyder, the
reputation the Seattle Seahawks have as a as a first
class organization. So uh, that's just common doledge around the NFL.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
You think you forgot Jackson Smith and Jiggers name there
by the way, Yeah, just said Jackson, said DK Metcalf,
Gino Smith, Jackson, Charles Cross. Well, there was how to
blame the guy by the way he just got here.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
There was a while where when we draft him where
I couldn't quite remember if it was Smith and Jigba
were in Jigba Smith.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Wow, all right, Well, look, I mean I get the
defensive part of it for sure. I mean, he's going
to a football team that, if they play the kind
of defense that we think they're gonna play under Mike McDonald,
let's face facts, to win games a Clint Kubiak, that
offense is not gonna have to do a lot to
win games. I mean, obviously you want to score points.
So we're gonna ask him about that, by the way,
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when he comes on the air at four o'clock today.
But that to me would almost be the most attractive
part of this. That, my god, I'm gonna go play
for a guy who's one of the best defensive minds
in the world, and if his defense does what we
think it's gonna do, he's taking a lot of heat
off me.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Oh, there's no question, And I'd be Okay, if it
is complimentary football. If he scored less points per game
than Ryan Grubb did this year, that doesn't necessarily mean
he's doing a worse job. If your defensive points per
game come down significantly due to what your offense is
doing to help them as far as field position, as
far as can control of the clock, I mean, absolutely
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you can have a more successful offense even scoring less
points per game, because.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
It's all about the point differential. They gotta be better
in the red zone, for sure, no matter what. Better
running the ball for sure, no matter what, not make
as many. I mean, the touchdown to interception ratio for
the quarterback has got to get better. Those are three
things that have to improve. That's per care. But how
about the full back question? Check this out.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Your coach was asked.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
A lot about using Bier Murphy as a blocking back
last year, and he didn't do that last year like
he did in college.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
But do you envision.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Actually signing a fullback to be on the roster or
using a tight end defensive tackle.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
In that role.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
We're going through that process now with John and Mike,
but I think we're gonna we're gonna take a look
at all those things. I'm excited about the guys we
do have on the roster. We'll play tight ends in
the full back position for sure, but those are that's
a process right now.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Would you be supposed to using Byron Murphy?
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Byron's is not going to be our starting full back.
He might be there, but he's not going to start there.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
What if I would have just asked, hey, would you
consider starting Buyer Murphy at full back and.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Pull him off the defensive life.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I mean, they could have used anybody they wanted to
as a full back a year ago. And that's not
just done Grub that's the head coach too. If they
wanted to use a full back or a blocking back,
a tight end, a defensive end, a defensive tackle.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
How an offensive lineman to come into the game.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Didn't the Seahawks used to use like Gary Gilliams sometimes
in that role as almost a tight end as a blocker.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
They never did that, Not one time last year did
they do that. It wasn't creative.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Well, there wasn't a lot of creativity. There wasn't creativity.
And where they lined up DK Metcalf and how they
got DK Metcalf the ball.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I still didn't.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I asked, I've asked you this question, and he was
kind of a fuddled as well why it didn't happen
like DK Metcalf. The the complaints about DK Metcalf were
what he was covered by too many guys. Okay, well,
get him the ball before the defense can cover him,
meaning get him the ball on your side of the
line of scrimmage. The defense can't cover that. And now
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he's got the ball in his hands and he's running
straight ahead and rolling people over.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, I think how they used him is going to
be really a curiosity for me. There's no question about that.
I think Tyler Lockett staying here, no question, is going
to be obviously a big, you know, a question for
these guys.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
What's the third clip we have? By the way, that
was my question. Ken, Okay, but Ken Walker check this out.
Go ahead, Cleat.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
You talked about the importance of running football very early
up there. Talk about Ken and how you envision him
fitting your style of run game.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Well, I think Ken can can fit in just about
in any style. He's a talented player, so I'm really
excited about him in his own scheme. Okay, but I've
seen Ken in all schemes, play really good a football
I've seen. I've seen the guy catch the ball well
out of the backfield. I think is really important for
our backs. So we utilize him obviously, whatever we can
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do to get him touches, throwing them, throwing them outside
of the backfield, throwing them screens, get the ball in
their hands, getting the ball to our best runners.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
And that's what he is.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
So and I think he's got a really good group
of teammates that compliment him as well, and especially with Charbonnay.
So looking forward to him in this scheme, and we're
gonna ask a.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Lot at him. Yeah, I like the idea of just
getting this guy touches.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
He had one hundred and fifty three carries forty six,
so he had one hundred and ninety nine touches a
year ago. He had over two hundred and fifty or
two hundred and forty the year before. Obviously, got banged
up and he missed five games last year.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
He missed two of the year before that and two
of the year before that.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
But I think a fifty catch season with you know,
one hundred and eighty plus carries, two hundred carries for
Kenny Walker is not out of a question.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Man.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah, two hundred plus is rookie year. He had two
hundred and fifty five touches and that was with only
twenty seven carries our receptions. Rather, so, I think I
think in that two hundred and thirty carry range, like
you said, fifty more catches get him up pushing the
three hundred touch mark. I think that's very, very possible
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for Ken Walker. Yeah, I don't think he's injury plagued.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I don't see a guy think so.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I mean, he missed two games his first year, two
games a second year for a running back. That's kind
of par for the course. You don't want to see
him miss five and so yeah, if he misses another
five games this year, then that injury plague label I
think can come on because it's more than just a fluke.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
If it happens to you, I was just gonna say,
this is a big year for that narrative.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Man, he gets hurt again and he misses I mean, look,
I mean, dude, when you're missing five games, you're missing
almost a third of the year for God's sake.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
So he can't do that again.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
He can't miss another month worth of football and if
that happens again this season, it's gonna be really hard
to fight the injury plague narrative. Man, I mean, I'm
not saying that he's you know, who is mister Glass
so we had procise. He's not precise, you know, I
mean yeah, or I mean look, but the difference between
Penny and Precise is that Penny looked like he was
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built to take hits. Precise never did right. Penny just
had horrible does luck with injuries. Kenny Walker's is the
same way. I mean, if you stand next to Kenny Walker,
this guy is built to absorb contact in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
He just had bad luck with it so far.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I'm not expecting Kenny Walker to be Christian McCaffrey right
where he's getting like three hundred touches a year. I mean,
Barkley had three hundred and seventy eight last year. He
was pushing four hundred with Philadelphia. I don't think Kenny
Walker is ever gonna be that guy. Not with Zach
Charbonday in Seattle after the year, he I think we're
gonna see more of him this season. But I do
think that the injury plague thing, if that happens again,
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this season. It's gonna be really hard, Dick to fight
that off. Yeah, I think this is your four al right,
and let's just look at the numbers.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
We we just told you about ken Walker's fifteen, fifteen
and twelve, his three seeds. As far as game plays,
here's we're shot Penny's when he was a seahawk fourteen ten,
three ten five. Like that's injury plague.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Ken Washer is not insured at least now, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
all right, we're gonna break a little fun with audio.
Slash hated you hear that coming up next to ninety
three three KJRFM.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
It's now time for Sufday in Dick's Fun with Audio.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Now let's have some fun with audio.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
All right.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
We're back here on a Tuesday afternoon from the Virginia
Mason Athletic Center aka the vMac, hanging out live on
a Tuesday afternoon. But hey, just because we're here a
non studio doesn't mean we can't take fun with audio
with us, and that's what we're doing now. Tens of
people are looking forward to this segment right now. We
have ten, maybe thirty forty could be I don't know.
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Call your buddies, get him on board. Hey, Dick, did
you happen to hear that?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Let's start, by the way, if we can, I'm gonna
switch this list up here and you're let's go number two.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
To start off.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
On the Overtime podcast, Cam Newton talks to Travis Hunter
from Colorado about his realizations about being the number one
overall pick in the draft.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
Well, that was the first pick, a locker room of losers,
the top pick. Let's put it in perspective. You're the top.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Pick because what no, no, no, no. That you're looking at
it from a personal situation. I'm talking about from the
professional situation.
Speaker 8 (30:11):
You're the top pick because that was the worst team
in the NFL the year before.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
For me, I wanted to be the number one pick.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
You could potentially be the first pick, but bro, you
have no way of impacting the game like a quarterback does.
You can lock down the number one receiver, you can
make impact players on offense all you want, but it's
still not like a quarterback. My issue is when I
was the first pick, I went into a locker room
of losers.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Guys, didn't know how to win, guys don't know how
to prepare. It was a culture shock for me.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
The games don't mean a lot to a lot of
people in the league like you would expect.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
It's just money.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
Not everybody has capabilities to be impact players.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
They're just players.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
He is one of the most unlikable people I've ever
come around.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
By the way, Oh, I don't disagree with that, but
I do agree with what he had to say there, sure.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
But there's a lot of things that you would agree
with that you probably wouldn't say right, Like would you
want your ex teammates.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
To hear your quarterback talking like that? No?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
You know, I mean Steve Smith came out and just
crapped all over him. And by the way, if Cam
Newton went into a locker room full of losers, what
was the locker room like when he started fourteen games
and won five in two thousand and eight?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Was he a loser?
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Then?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yes? He was? I mean, come on, dude, yes he was.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
I think I think Cam Newton truly only believes he
played one year in the NFL and he went fifteen
and one and made the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
He is just I don't know if there's a more
unlikable guy, I mean, honestly, current or ex player.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
What does PN keep putting him on? Yeah, well that
was Travis Hunters contact.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
That was Travis Hunters pod, right, I know that was,
But yes, he has put him on. I've seen Cam
Newton more in the last month on ESPN than I've
seen him in years.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Well, they put him on TV because dipsticks like us
will talk about it, That's why.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
And he likes to work because idiots like us respond
to it.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
You can always count on the idiot faction meeting guys
like Softy and Dick Faine in Seattle who will sit
there like puppy dogs and just wait for scrap to
fall off the table and swallow everything up. All right,
that's why, because idiots like us keep talking about it.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?
Let's go to number one.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
On this day, thirty five years ago, Mike Tyson in
Tokyo was knocked out by Buster Douglas. Here's how the
end of the fight sounded. Courtesy of HBO pay per
View and Jim Lampley. On February the eleventh of nineteen ninety.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Tyson is virtually a one eyed fighter at this point.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
A disparate one eyed fighter crawling willingly.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Just to try to get in the shut. That will
finish things in what.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
An upper cut mine dounlesis down, goes Tyson.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Tyson has been knocked down.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I believe it.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
This makes Cinderella look like a sad story.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
What Buster Douglas has done here tonight.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Let's go ahead and call it the biggest upset in
the history of heavyweight championship fights.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Say it now, gentlemen, James Buster.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
Douglas, undisputed heavyweight Champion of the World.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Jim Lampley, Larry Merchant, and Sugar Ray Leonard on HBO
pay per view that night. I remember exactly where I
want you watch absolutely.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I watched. My dad was seventeen years old. I was fifteen.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
We used to watch all the Tyson fights back in
the day. Get a bunch of guys together, all the
Tyson fights. Find somebody's house, chip in five ten bucks apiece.
I was at the basement of my buddies dad's house,
Matt Jones, who lived in the Crossroads area, his dad Bill,
and we're watching the fight together.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
We could not believe what we were watching.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
It was the most shocking sports event I've ever seen
in my life.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Dad wouldn't get it because it was fifty bucks, and
I don't blame him.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
It was thirty five years ago. Fifty dollars was a
lot of money. But you also thought the fight would
last thirty Secondly.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
So I remember we went out to dinner.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I think he even said, I can buy you all
dinner tonight for the same amount as the fight. And
I came home dinners, went right to ESPN because it
was blacked out. Obviously he had to pay for us.
I went right to ESPN. They were talking. It was
like Charlie Steiner was breaking down. What just happens? Like,
oh my god, he lost.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Buster Douglas couldn't even believe it. Man, it was again,
I've never seen something more shocking than that. Thirty five
years ago, thirty five years ago today, was that fight unbelievable.
In the words of Sugar Ray Leonard, all right, eight, Dick,
did you happen to here?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Lod? What's that? Dick? Let's go to blah?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
How about number three NFL Draft prospects Schador Sanders was
I'm a Kevin Clark at Radio row with the Super
Bowl and was asked which NFL quarterback he studies.
Speaker 10 (34:52):
This was his response, That was my own tape and
fee like, okay, we'll kind and improved.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
That's where I see.
Speaker 10 (34:58):
I'm able to see, okay, the flaws in my game
and what I gotta get better at and will make
me a very flawless quarterback and will help me exceed
at the next level. So I can't look up to
nobody because those those are the people I'm playing against.
I can't idolize the mind about to play against, Like,
that's not to me, That's not a thing I would do.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
I like that outwork. I've never heard that before.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Yeah, that's a good, that's a good. That's a good
way for me.
Speaker 10 (35:22):
My dad the best player that I ever played a game.
You think you think I got other people I look
up to like that? Nah, he didne did it. So
if it's anybody outside of him, then that's that's a
little bit disrespectful.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Wells that played corner.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, so he wouldn't be watching his dad. He had
throw one pass like, hey, shoot, you ever watch your
dad to learn how to play quarterback in the NFL?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I mean it's kind of unique.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
You know, there's a lot about Shador I'm not a
huge fan of, but I mean I can kind of
get it that you feel kind of weird just looking
at other guys. Maybe guys that are not playing you'd
feel less weird about, right, like some of the great
quarterbacks Michael or Dan Marino.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Or Elway or whoever blah up Brady.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I mean, I think every quarterback, and I'm sure Millan
would agree with this because he's the president of the
Tom Brady Fan Club, every quarterback should look at Tom
Brady's footwork and decision making in the pocket because he
might be the best ever do I.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Think, regardless of the sport, I think young guys should
watch the best of the best, right, I mean you
should take take little parts of lots of different you know,
we're like my brain so focused on golf, Like like
my son takes looks at different players and takes different
things out of Now he's Shador, Sanders and overall pick
but like you can still take things from professionals, even though,
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like Shadur, you're gonna be ending up playing them next year.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Well, I mean sometimes I'll do the opposite and listen
to other radio shows and learn what not to do, right,
I mean it's I listen for That's the show for
two hours every day. I get a lot of good information.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I just think he's he's kind of setting himself up
to get his balls busted a little bit, like if
he struggles in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Geez Shador, maybe you should have watched is that Brady Tapo?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Right?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that? Dick?
Let's go to how about number five?
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Andrews afterwards reported the Suns were interested in moving Kevin
Durant and nothing ended up happening. At the deadline, ESPN
reporter Ramona Shelburne talks about the atmosphere in the locker
room on NBA Countdown yesterday.
Speaker 11 (37:25):
Ramona shelburn you've been talking with folks around the Phoenix organization.
Can you just take us inside the conversations that McMahon
is talking about right now, because this is something that
would be incredibly difficult to recover from.
Speaker 9 (37:37):
Yeah, the word I would use him he said, glom.
I'll use toxic.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (37:41):
Like like that shoot around yesterday I heard was very awkward,
very weird in Oklahoma City because everybody was on pins
and needles wondering what they were going to do. And
I think now you have this reset, where do you
how do you move forward to the team when there
was a clear mandaid here, like they have to do something,
and if they're not able to get anything done, which
is as we say, you talked about it in the open,
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there's a Britons, there's all this stuff. It's really hard
to do something. And the thing they were trying to
do did not come to fruition because Kevin Durant said no.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I can see how it'd be a little weird, right
if you know a team tried to move you, Like,
what does Luis Castillo think right now? You think Luis
Castillo has in some privy to information where the Mariners
tried to trade him well and they couldn't do it,
and he's still here in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
I think there's a difference between whether he hears that
other teams were interested in him and the Mariners didn't
make a deal, or that the Mariners were actively shopping.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Well, but what's but which is it?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I don't know where the Mariners actively shopping Luis Castillo,
I thought they were.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I thought we heard from people and.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
They might still be to night.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
It could be.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
I mean, I'm just saying, let's just live in a
world for a second where he does find that out
right where the Mariners were trying to trade him and
they couldn't get a deal done.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Is that going to piss Luis Castillo off?
Speaker 6 (38:58):
Probably not him, just knowing his personal but I think
it seems like Kevin Durant, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, I think it's different basketball for sure. Oh different
basketball than baseball, no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
And surprise, surprise, our last cut, Kevin Durant actually heard
what somebody was talking about when they were talking about him,
like he never does that.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Play this clip Kevin Durant addressing that comment you just
heard there from Ramona Shelburn Go ahead, yeah, I heard.
Speaker 12 (39:19):
Ramona showbouring im out say our locker room is socksy.
I'm trying to tell people who don't it's not around
this game as much as that.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
It's easy to say.
Speaker 12 (39:29):
Our locker room is not connected when you come in
there forty five minutes before and guys win in game modes,
we're not talking to each other for if my guys
might be in the training room, a.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Few guys might be in the weight room.
Speaker 12 (39:40):
It's just it's not a welcome environment right before.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
The game, you know what I'm saying. That's just just
hard of getting ready to play, you know.
Speaker 12 (39:46):
So I think it's unfair and lazy to categorize our
team as toxic when you coming there for five minutes
about four months, that's the only time.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
You've been in our locker room, Dan, when you can
make a narrative.
Speaker 12 (39:58):
I don't think that's fair for us.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
But like I said, this part of game. That's part
of business. Signed, but you gotta do accept.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Uh. I mean, look, I wish I could like Kevin Durant.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I was just gonna say, if he hadn't played for
the Sonics that one year and did not do that
thing where he's egging the crowd on during the Maverick game,
I think I would really dislike him.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yes you would were you absolutely would.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
But he's not a dislikable person.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
But he's just so sense. He gets suckered in.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
He gets suckered into every little stupid thing, right, And
I mean, I don't know. Ramota Shelburn's a good reporter. Clearly,
she's hearing that from somebody inside the organization. It's not
like she shows up for five minutes, observes that and
then goes and writes about it. She's being told that
by something correct, right, So, and I can see how
that would make sense if a team tried to trade
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somebody and they couldn't do it. I mean, the guy
might be kind of pissed off and it might be
a problem. And if they did try to trade him,
there's a reason why they tried to make them move
because he's not a great fit. I mean, we thought
he had they had to deal with Golden State and
they said no.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Right. I don't know, man, I just missed the NBA.
We need the drama.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
There's no sport on the planet. It comes along with
drama the way the NBA.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
I don't know if you are, but I know and
and I are looking on very much forward to the
next three months of the NBA.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Gonna be awesome stretch. It'd be awesomer if we had
our own teams, right.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
We know what.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Our own team wouldn't be one of these fifty five
sixty win teams anyway, they'd be like right off the bat.
They'd be like the Hornets. We nobody be talking about
him at this time of year.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
They'd be twenty and sixty two.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
We'd have players going after players and coaches and Burnie
Maxwell throwing waits, and Mary Payton and Marcus Johnson going
out to get his gun and all that stuff. It'd
be phenomenal. Oh, that was in a movie. Never mind,
we're gonna break Clinton Kobiac, the new offensive coordinator of
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