February 11, 2025 • 26 mins
New Seahawks OC Klint Kubiak joins Softy and Dick to talk about joining the Seahawks coaching staff? What do we think Klint Kubiak will do with the Offensive Line?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
No from the Star Reinles Sports to Jordan ninety three
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
All righty boys and girls, Happy Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Here from the Virginia Mason Athletic Center, Seahawks headquarters offensive
coordinator Clint Kubiak.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
The new guy will join us in a matter of minutes.
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Some news in baseball.
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The Twins are signing ty Franz remember him to a
one year contract, so good luck to Tie. Dodgers are
re signing Clayton Kershaw to a one year deal for
his eighteenth season with the Dodgers, and the Angels are
adding closer at Canley Jansen on a one year, ten
million dollar contract. Here now are the moves that mirrors
made this week. Dick back to you, crickets. You'll like
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this story.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Dave Creighton is doing one dollar beer night tonight against Yukon.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Why are they doing this?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Well?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
The last time Dan Hurley's team was at Creighton. He
threatened to knock a Creighton fan out.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
As he left the floor. So they want to be drunk.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
They want everybody drunk yelling at Dan Hurley tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I'm gonna watch that game when I get home. Why
not just pass out cocaine wire at too? That is
going to be a problem. I mean, you're telling me
that if Creighton gets the whole fan base schnocker and
somebody goes after Hurley, they're not liable.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That is crazy.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
This.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
They're purposely looping up their fan base to go after
the opposing head coach. Seahawks officially adding three more assistants today,
John Benton the offensive line coach, Andrew Janecho the quarterback coach,
and Michael Byrne has been called a offensive assistant. Those
are the three moves the Seahawks made today.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Raptors, who just traded for Brandon Ingram this week, have
given them a three year, one hundred and twenty million
dollar extension.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
He's averaged twenty two points for.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
The Becans this season, but has yet to play for
Toronto as he is injured.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And Pete Carroll officially naming his coaching staff today, including
not one but two of his kids, Brendan Carroll and
Nate both joining Pete Carroll in Vegas with the Raiders.
All right, joining us right now on the show. Yeah,
take a seat right there, big fella. The brand new
offensive coordinator of your Seattle Seahawks, Clint Kobiak, And first
of all, Man, great to see you, Thanks for coming
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by here from the vMac. And then second of all,
let's talk about kind of how this went down. I mean,
you're coaching across the country, three thousand miles away, almost
a different planet, right in Louisiana, New Orleans, and now
you're here with the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Talk about why and how this whole thing came together.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Yeah, just opportunity, you know, really fortunate to be able
to get to talk to Mike in the interview process,
and just just grateful for the opportunity to interview for
the position and obviously come into a really excellent situation
with the personnel here in Seattle, and then getting to
you know, bring some coaches that we've had some familiarity
with that have that have been so instrumental in us
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teaching this scheme.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
So thankful for Mike for giving us that chance.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Well, we've heard a lot in the last year about
priorities maybe not being the line between offensive coordinator a
head coach and complimentary football not being played. Why are
your priorities in line with coach McDonald?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Uh? Well, you know, here's the deal.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Coach McDonald is stressed from from the beginning, you know,
the things that he's that he's looking for and the
type of the offense that he seeks, and you know,
you know, I'm.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Excited that our brand of football does match that.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
We've talked to that in the interview process, and we
also have the same agreement that you know, it's not
always going to be one way. You know, there's there's
there's more than one way.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
To win a game.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
And and obviously we want to be a physical, physical
team that can run the football and play action and
all those things. But then we got to be at
our best in those in those drop back passing situations.
So there's a lot that goes into it. And I
definitely believe that that coaches and eyes, you know, our
priorities line.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, well, click Kubiak, is where us brand your Seahawks
offensive coordinator? Right here on ninety three to three, kJ
r FM. I want to backtrack for a second because
I've noticed, now this is your fifth stop in the
last five years, right Minnesota, Denver, the Niners, the Saints,
and now Seattle. Is there a part of you that
would like to maybe stick around somewhere for a while
and stop moving for once.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Yeah, no, absolutely, that's what that's what's so appealing about
this opportunity. And uh, the number one one you do
that is you produce and you win. And that's the
job right now is our coaches and myself to get
on the same page so that we can communicate that
vision to our players and go be successful. So, uh,
you know, the stability takes care of itself when you're successful.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
You have the system. You learned it from your dad,
you learned it from Shanahan. But how much do you
take from other teams? How much do you watch games?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And just like I like that, I like that.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Just like put it down your notebook. Yeah, uh, you know, definitely.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
And it's not it's not just me, it's a it's
a whole offensive staff for coaches that is doing this.
We all have our own areas of expertise and then
pulling those ideas together. So this time of here is
something we're definitely studying, studying teams around the league and
how we can add to our to our offense, and
and making teach teams for our players. So that's that's
part of the league. You know, everyone everyone's got everybody
else's film, and there's no doubt people steal from each other.
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So there's a there's a fine line between you know,
taking too many ideas and just trying to master what
you do best. And that's that's and then that's the
really important part is Yeah, myself and our staff, we
we give our guys in an identity and we get
good at that before we started worrying about everybody else.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, you mentioned stealing stuff. If you could steal the
Eagles offensive line, that'd be phenomenal. All right, that's that's
my only request. We just just take their entire offensive
line and bring here. But Clint, honestly, when you look
around the league, I mean, your dad was a huge
influence on you. I think we all know that. The
Shannonhan's a gigantic influence on you. Is there anybody now
around the NFL schematically today where you look at and
you say, you know what that's who we aspire to be.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
That's what I.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Want to look like.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
You know, I'm gonna let our I'm gonna let our
players decide who we're gonna be. You know, I don't
want to mid make anybody's offense. You know, I think, Uh,
you guys, it's well documented the type of scheme that
that we're gonna We're gonna try to run here and uh,
if we be the best to be in ourselves and
putting this offense together, you know, hopefully teams are trying
to emulate us.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
That's the goal.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
A lot of these guys on offense are veterans. They've
been around for a lot of different offensive coordinators. Now,
so how complex is your offense? How long will it
take these guys to really feel comfortable running?
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Well, I know we're going to challenge them where it is.
It is going to be plenty of verbiage. There's gonna
be there's gonna be loss to learn. But these guys
are pro players, and these guys got pro intellects, so
they can pick up a lot really fast. And one
you know, the one thing that I've learned is, you know,
these great players are great because they're talent, but the
great players in the NFL are just so intelligent. So uh,
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you know, we're going to stress them mentally. We're gonna
give them a system they can be proud of, and
we're gonna give them a you know, a system that's
withstood the test of time. And then here from April
through June, we got to be the best teachers in
the NFL. And that's a big challenge for us as coaches.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, the offensive line.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
We just kind of joke about the Eagles obviously, but
the offensive line has been a major topic, right, I mean,
just doing the radio show every day, it seems like
for ten to fifteen years, the old line, the old line,
the old line. Frankly, I'm getting tired of it. I
know Dick's getting tired of it. Everybody would love for
that to settle down. But how much influence do you
think you're going to have when it comes to finding, selecting,
scouting the offensive line that you need to run this
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scheme that you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Yeah, you know, again, there's a lot of us in there.
It's us, you know, our offensive staff, starting with John Bennon,
our offensive line coach, was gonna have a major input
in that and I'm gonna support him. And you know,
Mac Brown, our tight end coach, is a huge part
of that too, the blocking scheme. But yeah, we're gonna
go identify free agents, We're going to identify college players,
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and you know that's not what it's all about. It's
all about developing the guys on the roster and making
them right or too. So it's it's gonna be it's
not just one thing, and it's gonna be the whole
staff working together on.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
How much do you value interior offensive lineman? Because it
seems like tackles get all the attention, wide receivers, quarterback, whatever,
but guard centers don't get yacked about, talked about a lot,
really prioritized. How much do you prioritize and value the
interior of the offensive line.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
Well, I think if you're gonna if you're gonna be
successful in the in the zone scheme, it all starts
with having an elite center, having a dang Goods center
that can move and is intelligent and can make calls,
and so it all starts from him. And you know,
there's always so much money to go around on a roster.
There is a salary cap and you have to allocate
those funds to other positions, and uh, just just because
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you may not value them financially based on the percentage
of the cap. The guy gets that that's the most
important part of our team is the offensive line. So
we're gonna spend a lot of time of trying to
trying to make those guys better and getting the most
out of them, And uh, that's our challenges coaches.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
In the press conference, you use the word aggressive to
describe Geno in a positive way. Gino, his aggressiveness sometimes
gets them in trouble as well. So how do you
maintain that level of aggressiveness that you like and still
harness it a little bit?
Speaker 5 (09:02):
So there's not the picks that we saw this year.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Yeah, well, you know that's gonna take a that's gonna
that's gonna be a year long relationship building of of
of putting that together. But it's just it's how that
we coach each play, the expectations of each play, their
progressions and what we expect of him, you know, and
just being really detailed as coaches, myself and coach and
coach Janoke and uh, I think that's something that we
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definitely pride ourselves on. However, you know, we're not taking
the stinger out Geno. You know, I like that he's aggressive,
and uh, you know obviously I wasn't wasn't here last year,
and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go back and say, well,
last year you did this, you know. No, we're moving on.
He's done a lot in this league and been successful
in this league, and there's a lot to work with.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
So we're we're starting starting new.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Well, I click Qbiac again is with us on the air,
the brand new offensive coordinator for your Seattle Seahawks. And look,
there's a lot of things that we know that DK
metcalf is very very good at. Drawing coverage is certainly
one of them, no doubt up. But your your coach
has said Macus said, it can't just be about drawing
coverage with this guy right when when he is covered, we.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Need to get him the ball. Talk to me about that.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
How do you make sure that fourteen gets the ball
even when there's coverage all over this guy?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Well, I think with any with any wide receiver in
the NFL that has a talent that DK does, you
have to move them around, right, You got to You
got to give him, whether it's in motion or formationally.
So it's really important that the defense can't key on
him in one spot. So I think it starts right there.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
And then.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
You know, we have to we got to get creative
as coaches. And you know, I'm excited to work with DK. Obviously,
he signed a lot of success in this league. He's
a veteran and uh, you know it's it's critical to
our success that we get him involved.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Where are you on the spectrum of having players that
fit your system and versus your system fitting the players
you happen to have that year.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Well, I think, uh, here's the deal we got. Here's
the players that we have. The most of these guys
are gonna be here, and let's let's let's fit them
to this Let's fit them to the system, and then
let's let's coach our system and let's uh spend a
lot of time practicing it. And hey, if if we're
not good in one area, and then we're not gonna
run that play because we have to win the game.
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That's what it all comes down to. So we're gonna
we're gonna have a style of offense. We're gonna have
a style of play and then we're gonna identify our
guys strongest traits and then we're going to accentuate those
traits in the fall.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
And that's our job as coaches.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, is it?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Is it different working for a defensive minded head coach
like you did last year with Dennis obviously and now
with Mack. You've worked with offensive minded head coaches, but
you're you're you're you're the head coach of the offense.
I mean, this is your baby. He's on the defense,
but he's overall.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
But does that.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Change your job at all when you're working for a
guy who was clearly a defensive minded head coach.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Uh No, it's a team, it's all. We're a team
rolling this thing together. And uh you know, our ability
to be successful on our respective size affects the team's success.
And that's what it all comes down to, is the team.
It was gonna be games we're gonna score. It might
be a six to three game, like you guys, I
think you had one Chicago last year, right, and that's
a win. I won the game, all right. There's gonna
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be games where it's it's fifty to forty eight, and
it's our job to work together to compliment each other
and that that's what it's all about, guys, that's winning
the game. So obviously we want to have we want
to be successful, we want to have our stats. That's
great and all, but it's about it's about freaking winning.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Well, you had two different situations in Minnesota and New Orleans.
I mean last year you just had you were ravaged.
You guys didn't have a lot to work with all
the injuries. Minnesota you did, and you did quite well.
How different are you as a play caller now than
you were five years ago when you started there in
Minnesota calling place?
Speaker 6 (12:41):
You know, I just think does there have been plenty
of plenty of experiences that you learn the hard way
on them. Things got to be more prepared for that.
You gotta have answers for immediate answers. You know, I
definitely feel more prepared going into each game now than
I did in twenty twenty one. However, you know, it's
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it's uh. I've been around really a lot of great
coaches and worked on some great staffs and you know,
I get to sit here and talk to you guys today.
But whatever we end up doing and we aspire to
be is gonna come down to, you know, how our
coaching staff comes together and how we communicate on game day,
because because it's a team effort, especially we're talking with
the offensive line guys and and talking with guys up
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in the booth, you know, with Andrew with with with
John Benton, with Jake Pete's. You know, it's a group effort.
It truly is. And if it ever becomes about one guy,
we're in trouble.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Well, you mentioned that Bears game on Thursday Night Football,
that that six to three win for the Seahawks last year.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Do you watch that game? By the way, you remember
watching that game?
Speaker 5 (13:43):
I watched the tape.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I watcha Were you entertained by that? Because I found
it excruciating to watch that game? Offensively, I mean honestly,
when you have a game like that, the win is great.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
The win is the win. But would you call that
a good game for your offense?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
A night like that. I'm not gonna comment on you
all the game last year he was.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Talking about you. If you had a game like that,
would you walk away be pissed?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Right, At the end of the day, you want you
want to you want to produce. That's what your job is,
so i'd be I'd be a little upset walking to
the car, but I'd be pretty pretty happy that we
got a w That's what it's all about.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I love that and you you look, the relationship with
you and your dad Shanahan's is obvious.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Hey, to go back on.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
That, I have that that has happened, so like, yes,
that's that's happened plenty of times.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
So I'm not.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
That's my fault for I'm not. I don't need to
talk about last year. That's that's uh, that's a different,
different year. But that happens. That happens on a team. Yeah,
and you got to make sure your players feel how
important it was that you just won, because if yeah,
you can be upset for a little bit, right, Okay,
but you better make sure you're the players know it's
all about winning too.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Well.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm glad that you said that you'd be pissed, because
we'll be pissed with you, all right. You can all
be pissed together if the offense scores six points, but
in the end, it is about to win.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
How much do you still lean on your dad?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
How much do you talk to him, how much does
he kind of send you a little text and notes
about the stuff he sees on tape.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
What's that relationship like right now? From a professional.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Perspective, Yeah, no, I I had lean on him a
lot always. I talk to him almost every day and uh,
you know, and probably a quarter of it is about football,
as you guys could probably imagine. So uh, always asking
for his advice, always accepting. Uh, you know, I usually
hang the phone up a little upset and then usually
call him back later. But hey, you know what, You're
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right about that, but really really grateful for his input.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Well, as of right now, the Eagles are the gold standard.
So when you watch that offense perform over the last month,
what impressed you the most about what they did?
Speaker 5 (15:41):
You know?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
I think you look at the team, right They obviously
ran the ball well and it took shots down the field,
and then they played elite defense. So they played together
as a team, you know, not knowing all the details
of it, just that's what stands out watching them from
far team wins.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Well, you you did mention in there that you want
to have a full back and Dick and I got
a little.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Excited by the way hearing that, all right, Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Because I I I believe that every team always has
a full back on the roster, whether it's a defensive
tackle or a tight end or whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Would you personally be opposed.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
If Byron Murphy because we saw the Texas game against
Washington two years ago and they used Sark used Byron
as a as a blocking back in Austin. If he
came to you and said, hey, man, if you need
me to be a blocking back on there for you,
would you be opposed to using Bier Murphy as a
blocking back.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I gotta go watch the tape, you know.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Yes, I'm not as familiar with Byron's offensive reps.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
He's big, He's really big.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Definitely, we'll be we'll be looking at it for sure.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
You were asking the press conference you your toughest interview question.
Can you expand a little bit on the back and
forth that the situational back and forth that you had
with Mike.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Just you know, coach had a had a had a
really cool situational discussion, you know, what would you do
in this situation and kind of a rapid fire thing
and just thought it was a really cool exercise that uh,
that was really smart. But I aim to to grill.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Young you must have passed it.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I would hope, so, I would hope.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Well, listen, you came from New Orleans, where you think
you know good food? This is this This place blows
New Orleans out of the water, not even close by
the way. All right, you need your record restaurant recommendations.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Let us know. Tell us about yourself. You're married, you
got kids? What's your background?
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Like I am? I'm married at four kids?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Them under eight years old?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Oh my god, really.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Really really fortunate to you know, to get to be
a dad of four kids. So excited for them to
get out here and check out Seattle.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
What's what's tough for calling an NFL offense or handling
four kids under the age of eight years old?
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Yeah, that's what my wife, she's just saying.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I love it. Hey, nice to meet she. Welcome to Seattle.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
She'll talk a lot set on the road, buddy, best
of luck, and I appreciate this man, you bet.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Clint Kobiak with us on the radio show good stuff.
There a lot to react to.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
We're gonna break come back with more in a busy
Tuesday right here on ninety three three kJ RFM.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Sofie and Dick on your Home for
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Speaker 2 (18:16):
How much do you value interior offensive lineman?
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Well, I think if you're gonna, if you're gonna be
successful in the in the zone scheme, it all starts
with having an elite center, having a dang Goods center
that can move and it is intelligent and can make calls.
And uh so it all starts from him. And you know,
there's only so much money to go around on a roster.
There is a salary cap, and you have to allocate
those funds to other positions and uh just just because
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you may not value them financially based on the percentage
of the cap. The guy gets that that's the most
important part of our team is the offensive line. So
we're gonna spend a lot of time of trying to
trying to make those guys better and getting the most
out of them, and uh that's our challenges coaches.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
And his next phone call came from John Schneider.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
We don't go there, brother.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah, I'm thinking, like, does John no A agree with him.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
That's right, that's right. I know what that means.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Well, look, we like to bust John's balls a lot,
mostly because he can take it.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
He's a great dude, he's been around here a long time.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
But I that's the second time today that I've kind
of asked about the offensive line and the interior, because
you know, there's kind of the infamous, famous whatever you
want to say quote from Schneider where he apparently a
couple of years ago said we don't really value you
or I know we didn't say that directly, obviously.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Overdrafted and yes, yes, he talked about that.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
So I asked Clint Kubiak, you know how much do
you value that position?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Well, he just told you that.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
To run his scheme, he thinks that starts with an
elite center.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
What is elite to you? First team All Pro Pro
bowler minimum?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
We have not had a Pro Bowl center here since
twenty thirteen. The guy's name was Max Sunger.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Last time there was a first team All Pro was
Max Sunger in twenty twelve. Last time before that was
Robbie Tolbeck in two thousand and five. They've only had
two Pro Bowls centers. I believe in their franchise history.
So they're gonna have to do something that they haven't
done in minimum twelve years in this market, let alone,
only really a couple of times in their franchise's history.
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So was that for Big Olu? By the way, Olulu
with Tebby, is that a good sign or a bad
sign for his future as the starting center of the
Seattle Seal. I'd say that was a very bad sign
for Big ol I mean, just look look at your
Super Bowl teams, right, Cam Jurgen's Landon Dickerson for Philadelphia
play center and Creed hump Free play center for the Chiefs,
and they are clearly the leaders of that offense, of
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the making all the calls on that offensive line. They
are multi time Pro Bowlers.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I don't know, it's just, yeah, it just makes a
lot of sense that that that the middle of you
We always talk about the middle of your defense, right,
both in football and baseball, right, the middle of your defense,
defense up the middle. Same thing on offense, man, the
middle of your offense. That's where it starts.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Absolutely, And look, I mean I haven't taken a look,
I haven't analyzed or brooken down these center last and
last year's draft, well, I will. I mean, typically I
only look at first round centers, Dick, so we'll see,
you have to look and see what the rest of
the draft looks like. But now we'll get we'll sick
Millan on it and we'll see if there's a Creed
Humphrey out there, maybe in this year's draft. But I
do think that we are getting tired of the revolving door.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
At that position, right, no question about it.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
And we've talked about this before that there's a reason
why the Hawks went out and got Connor Williams. And
I thought after year one, hell, I thought when they
drafted him. Let me backtrack even further, when they drafted
old the willowo ad tend me out a Michigan like,
this guy's the Outland Trophy winner. What the hell we
got him in the sixth round, fifth round whatever it
was last year, two years ago.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
He's your he's your he's your future at center. He's
gonna take over for Evan or Ethan Brown.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Was it Evan or Ethan by the way, Evan Evan Brown, Yes,
And he didn't get it done and they went out
and signed Connor Williams. I mean that was kind of
a desperate move by them to go ahead and get
a guy that clearly wasn't ready yet to play football
because he was coming off the knee injury with the
Dolphins the year before, and then Golu was playing second fiddle.
So you know, I thought he played okay. You know,
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from what my I observed, he was okay. I mean,
nothing dominant about him. You know, La Maya was okay,
nothing dominant about him. But I think there's a chance
that you're gonna see him replaced, and I think they're
gonna try and replace them. Can they Dick is a
different question.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Well, Ryan Kelly is a free agent. He was the
bias paid offensive or a center rather at fourteen point
two five million dollars. I mean, that's six percent of
the cap. There was only two teams that spent more
than four percent of the cap on their center position.
That was Indianapolis at six point three three and Detroit
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at six point nine to five. And both of them
have really, really good centers. So I mean, you're gonna
have to spend a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Man.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Well, I think you're gonna first look at and see
how many guys are free agent from the Saints, and
if they're any good, I mean, he's gonna want to
bring in some guys with familiarity, right, He's doing it
with coaches. But we'll go back to look at the
Saints offensive line and see if anybody showed up there.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
But you know had news for you. By the way,
what's that The Saints are one of two teams that
Spade is spent less at the center position.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Well, I mean they may have a young guy, right,
I just want to see what they're what their roster
looks like. They do have a couple of free agent
offensive linemen. Most of these guys have never heard of,
and most of them didn't make any money. They got
a center named Shane the mu is, a hockey player,
by the way.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
They got a right tackle who's a free agent. They
got a left guard and a left tackle, Olas sameca Udo.
I'm sure I'm butchering his name, Lucas Patrick. I can
pronounce that guy's name. So they do have some free
agent offensive lineman. But are they any good? I have
no idea. I just think with him again, the biggest
thing that Clint Kobiak can do for this offense is
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to settle down the offensive line. And this John Benton guy,
by the way, who they just hired, is the offensive
line coach. I feel like we're not talking enough about him, Dick.
If you look at John Benton, he first of all,
he looks like an offensive line coach. I mean, that's
the guy right there. Okay, he just reeks of an
offensive line grizzled, grizzled, never gonna have a desire to
be a head coach, doesn't want to be a head coach.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Libya the hell alone.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Let me coach his offensive linemen and then go over
to the freaking Dinos pub and have six hundred beers,
all right, and leave me the hell alone.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
So this guy last year was with the Saints.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
He was with the Jets from twenty one to twenty two,
the Niners in seventeen to twenty. He was actually their
offensive line coach. The forty nine Ers from twenty seventeen
to twenty twenty for four years he was the forty
nine Ers offensive line coach, and they went to the
Jets for a couple of seasons with them. So I
like that, and I feel like he's the guy that
we almost should be talking about more. How much progress
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can John Benton make overnight with this offensive line. Can
he do for the line what Vic Fangio did for.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
The Eagles defense.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Well, we saw a bump when Mike Solari was here, right,
we saw I mean, they didn't become a top five
offensive line because they didn't have the talent to become
a top five offensive line. But we saw a bump there,
you know. And I was looking at center free agents today,
you know, just for fun, right, because that's definitely a
position they got hurt into. An old friend is available,
Coleman Shelton, who has you know, a lot of time
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as a center and as a starting center in the NFL.
I mean, there's a guy that's been around for six
or seven years, still in the prime of his career,
and wouldn't cost a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Would you be naming him though if he didn't play
for the Huskies? No, Okay, thank you for admitting that, Dick.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, I mean, hey, look, and I get it, right,
I mean, but I'm saying that you know him, that's.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
The type of guy.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
And the reason I brought him up is he was
like seventh or eighth on the list of free agent centers, right,
because I know John Schneider's not going to get the
first or second.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Well, in Dick's defense, he did start forty seven games
the last two years with the Rams in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
He was good with ls started all.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Seventeen games with the Bears a year ago, seventeen games
of the Rams in twenty three, thirteen games, and the
Rams in.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
So he is I mean, he would automatically bring way
more experience than olus guy or there's no doubt about that,
and probably can play both garden center, right, so he's
a swing guy. But look, I mean, that's the kind
of thing they have to look at. You know, how
much money will they have for the offensive line right now?
The Hawks don't have squat to spend, so they got
to they got to create some money.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
You know, guys like.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Tyler Lockett for example, Gino Smith's contract getting restructured. They
just did Leonard Williams over and got his deal done.
All right, we're gonna break how about little textimonials four nine,
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
All righty boys and girls, Happy Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Here from the Virginia Mason Athletic Center, Seahawks headquarters offensive
coordinator Clint Kubiak.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
The new guy will join us in a matter of minutes.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Likehoo's chill, listen to you often because you're not interesting.
Some news in baseball.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
The Twins are signing ty Franz remember him to a
one year contract, so good luck to Tie. Dodgers are
re signing Clayton Kershaw to a one year deal for
his eighteenth season with the Dodgers, and the Angels are
adding closer at Canley Jansen on a one year, ten
million dollar contract. Here now are the moves that mirrors
made this week. Dick back to you, crickets. You'll like
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this story.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Dave Creighton is doing one dollar beer night tonight against Yukon.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Why are they doing this?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Well?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
The last time Dan Hurley's team was at Creighton. He
threatened to knock a Creighton fan out.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
As he left the floor. So they want to be drunk.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
They want everybody drunk yelling at Dan Hurley tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I'm gonna watch that game when I get home. Why
not just pass out cocaine wire at too? That is
going to be a problem. I mean, you're telling me
that if Creighton gets the whole fan base schnocker and
somebody goes after Hurley, they're not liable.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That is crazy.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
This.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
They're purposely looping up their fan base to go after
the opposing head coach. Seahawks officially adding three more assistants today,
John Benton the offensive line coach, Andrew Janecho the quarterback coach,
and Michael Byrne has been called a offensive assistant. Those
are the three moves the Seahawks made today.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Raptors, who just traded for Brandon Ingram this week, have
given them a three year, one hundred and twenty million
dollar extension.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
He's averaged twenty two points for.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
The Becans this season, but has yet to play for
Toronto as he is injured.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And Pete Carroll officially naming his coaching staff today, including
not one but two of his kids, Brendan Carroll and
Nate both joining Pete Carroll in Vegas with the Raiders.
All right, joining us right now on the show. Yeah,
take a seat right there, big fella. The brand new
offensive coordinator of your Seattle Seahawks, Clint Kobiak, And first
of all, Man, great to see you, Thanks for coming
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by here from the vMac. And then second of all,
let's talk about kind of how this went down. I mean,
you're coaching across the country, three thousand miles away, almost
a different planet, right in Louisiana, New Orleans, and now
you're here with the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Talk about why and how this whole thing came together.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Yeah, just opportunity, you know, really fortunate to be able
to get to talk to Mike in the interview process,
and just just grateful for the opportunity to interview for
the position and obviously come into a really excellent situation
with the personnel here in Seattle, and then getting to
you know, bring some coaches that we've had some familiarity
with that have that have been so instrumental in us
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teaching this scheme.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
So thankful for Mike for giving us that chance.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Well, we've heard a lot in the last year about
priorities maybe not being the line between offensive coordinator a
head coach and complimentary football not being played. Why are
your priorities in line with coach McDonald?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Uh? Well, you know, here's the deal.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Coach McDonald is stressed from from the beginning, you know,
the things that he's that he's looking for and the
type of the offense that he seeks, and you know,
you know, I'm.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Excited that our brand of football does match that.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
We've talked to that in the interview process, and we
also have the same agreement that you know, it's not
always going to be one way. You know, there's there's
there's more than one way.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
To win a game.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
And and obviously we want to be a physical, physical
team that can run the football and play action and
all those things. But then we got to be at
our best in those in those drop back passing situations.
So there's a lot that goes into it. And I
definitely believe that that coaches and eyes, you know, our
priorities line.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, well, click Kubiak, is where us brand your Seahawks
offensive coordinator? Right here on ninety three to three, kJ
r FM. I want to backtrack for a second because
I've noticed, now this is your fifth stop in the
last five years, right Minnesota, Denver, the Niners, the Saints,
and now Seattle. Is there a part of you that
would like to maybe stick around somewhere for a while
and stop moving for once.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Yeah, no, absolutely, that's what that's what's so appealing about
this opportunity. And uh, the number one one you do
that is you produce and you win. And that's the
job right now is our coaches and myself to get
on the same page so that we can communicate that
vision to our players and go be successful. So, uh,
you know, the stability takes care of itself when you're successful.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
You have the system. You learned it from your dad,
you learned it from Shanahan. But how much do you
take from other teams? How much do you watch games?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And just like I like that, I like that.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Just like put it down your notebook. Yeah, uh, you know, definitely.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
And it's not it's not just me, it's a it's
a whole offensive staff for coaches that is doing this.
We all have our own areas of expertise and then
pulling those ideas together. So this time of here is
something we're definitely studying, studying teams around the league and
how we can add to our to our offense, and
and making teach teams for our players. So that's that's
part of the league. You know, everyone everyone's got everybody
else's film, and there's no doubt people steal from each other.
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So there's a there's a fine line between you know,
taking too many ideas and just trying to master what
you do best. And that's that's and then that's the
really important part is Yeah, myself and our staff, we
we give our guys in an identity and we get
good at that before we started worrying about everybody else.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, you mentioned stealing stuff. If you could steal the
Eagles offensive line, that'd be phenomenal. All right, that's that's
my only request. We just just take their entire offensive
line and bring here. But Clint, honestly, when you look
around the league, I mean, your dad was a huge
influence on you. I think we all know that. The
Shannonhan's a gigantic influence on you. Is there anybody now
around the NFL schematically today where you look at and
you say, you know what that's who we aspire to be.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
That's what I.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Want to look like.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
You know, I'm gonna let our I'm gonna let our
players decide who we're gonna be. You know, I don't
want to mid make anybody's offense. You know, I think, Uh,
you guys, it's well documented the type of scheme that
that we're gonna We're gonna try to run here and uh,
if we be the best to be in ourselves and
putting this offense together, you know, hopefully teams are trying
to emulate us.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
That's the goal.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
A lot of these guys on offense are veterans. They've
been around for a lot of different offensive coordinators. Now,
so how complex is your offense? How long will it
take these guys to really feel comfortable running?
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Well, I know we're going to challenge them where it is.
It is going to be plenty of verbiage. There's gonna
be there's gonna be loss to learn. But these guys
are pro players, and these guys got pro intellects, so
they can pick up a lot really fast. And one
you know, the one thing that I've learned is, you know,
these great players are great because they're talent, but the
great players in the NFL are just so intelligent. So uh,
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you know, we're going to stress them mentally. We're gonna
give them a system they can be proud of, and
we're gonna give them a you know, a system that's
withstood the test of time. And then here from April
through June, we got to be the best teachers in
the NFL. And that's a big challenge for us as coaches.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, the offensive line.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
We just kind of joke about the Eagles obviously, but
the offensive line has been a major topic, right, I mean,
just doing the radio show every day, it seems like
for ten to fifteen years, the old line, the old line,
the old line. Frankly, I'm getting tired of it. I
know Dick's getting tired of it. Everybody would love for
that to settle down. But how much influence do you
think you're going to have when it comes to finding, selecting,
scouting the offensive line that you need to run this
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scheme that you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Yeah, you know, again, there's a lot of us in there.
It's us, you know, our offensive staff, starting with John Bennon,
our offensive line coach, was gonna have a major input
in that and I'm gonna support him. And you know,
Mac Brown, our tight end coach, is a huge part
of that too, the blocking scheme. But yeah, we're gonna
go identify free agents, We're going to identify college players,
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and you know that's not what it's all about. It's
all about developing the guys on the roster and making
them right or too. So it's it's gonna be it's
not just one thing, and it's gonna be the whole
staff working together on.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
How much do you value interior offensive lineman? Because it
seems like tackles get all the attention, wide receivers, quarterback, whatever,
but guard centers don't get yacked about, talked about a lot,
really prioritized. How much do you prioritize and value the
interior of the offensive line.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
Well, I think if you're gonna if you're gonna be
successful in the in the zone scheme, it all starts
with having an elite center, having a dang Goods center
that can move and is intelligent and can make calls,
and so it all starts from him. And you know,
there's always so much money to go around on a roster.
There is a salary cap and you have to allocate
those funds to other positions, and uh, just just because
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you may not value them financially based on the percentage
of the cap. The guy gets that that's the most
important part of our team is the offensive line. So
we're gonna spend a lot of time of trying to
trying to make those guys better and getting the most
out of them, And uh, that's our challenges coaches.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
In the press conference, you use the word aggressive to
describe Geno in a positive way. Gino, his aggressiveness sometimes
gets them in trouble as well. So how do you
maintain that level of aggressiveness that you like and still
harness it a little bit?
Speaker 5 (09:02):
So there's not the picks that we saw this year.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Yeah, well, you know that's gonna take a that's gonna
that's gonna be a year long relationship building of of
of putting that together. But it's just it's how that
we coach each play, the expectations of each play, their
progressions and what we expect of him, you know, and
just being really detailed as coaches, myself and coach and
coach Janoke and uh, I think that's something that we
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definitely pride ourselves on. However, you know, we're not taking
the stinger out Geno. You know, I like that he's aggressive,
and uh, you know obviously I wasn't wasn't here last year,
and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go back and say, well,
last year you did this, you know. No, we're moving on.
He's done a lot in this league and been successful
in this league, and there's a lot to work with.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
So we're we're starting starting new.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Well, I click Qbiac again is with us on the air,
the brand new offensive coordinator for your Seattle Seahawks. And look,
there's a lot of things that we know that DK
metcalf is very very good at. Drawing coverage is certainly
one of them, no doubt up. But your your coach
has said Macus said, it can't just be about drawing
coverage with this guy right when when he is covered, we.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Need to get him the ball. Talk to me about that.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
How do you make sure that fourteen gets the ball
even when there's coverage all over this guy?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Well, I think with any with any wide receiver in
the NFL that has a talent that DK does, you
have to move them around, right, You got to You
got to give him, whether it's in motion or formationally.
So it's really important that the defense can't key on
him in one spot. So I think it starts right there.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
And then.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
You know, we have to we got to get creative
as coaches. And you know, I'm excited to work with DK. Obviously,
he signed a lot of success in this league. He's
a veteran and uh, you know it's it's critical to
our success that we get him involved.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Where are you on the spectrum of having players that
fit your system and versus your system fitting the players
you happen to have that year.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Well, I think, uh, here's the deal we got. Here's
the players that we have. The most of these guys
are gonna be here, and let's let's let's fit them
to this Let's fit them to the system, and then
let's let's coach our system and let's uh spend a
lot of time practicing it. And hey, if if we're
not good in one area, and then we're not gonna
run that play because we have to win the game.
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That's what it all comes down to. So we're gonna
we're gonna have a style of offense. We're gonna have
a style of play and then we're gonna identify our
guys strongest traits and then we're going to accentuate those
traits in the fall.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
And that's our job as coaches.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, is it?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Is it different working for a defensive minded head coach
like you did last year with Dennis obviously and now
with Mack. You've worked with offensive minded head coaches, but
you're you're you're you're the head coach of the offense.
I mean, this is your baby. He's on the defense,
but he's overall.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
But does that.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Change your job at all when you're working for a
guy who was clearly a defensive minded head coach.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Uh No, it's a team, it's all. We're a team
rolling this thing together. And uh you know, our ability
to be successful on our respective size affects the team's success.
And that's what it all comes down to, is the team.
It was gonna be games we're gonna score. It might
be a six to three game, like you guys, I
think you had one Chicago last year, right, and that's
a win. I won the game, all right. There's gonna
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be games where it's it's fifty to forty eight, and
it's our job to work together to compliment each other
and that that's what it's all about, guys, that's winning
the game. So obviously we want to have we want
to be successful, we want to have our stats. That's
great and all, but it's about it's about freaking winning.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Well, you had two different situations in Minnesota and New Orleans.
I mean last year you just had you were ravaged.
You guys didn't have a lot to work with all
the injuries. Minnesota you did, and you did quite well.
How different are you as a play caller now than
you were five years ago when you started there in
Minnesota calling place?
Speaker 6 (12:41):
You know, I just think does there have been plenty
of plenty of experiences that you learn the hard way
on them. Things got to be more prepared for that.
You gotta have answers for immediate answers. You know, I
definitely feel more prepared going into each game now than
I did in twenty twenty one. However, you know, it's
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it's uh. I've been around really a lot of great
coaches and worked on some great staffs and you know,
I get to sit here and talk to you guys today.
But whatever we end up doing and we aspire to
be is gonna come down to, you know, how our
coaching staff comes together and how we communicate on game day,
because because it's a team effort, especially we're talking with
the offensive line guys and and talking with guys up
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in the booth, you know, with Andrew with with with
John Benton, with Jake Pete's. You know, it's a group effort.
It truly is. And if it ever becomes about one guy,
we're in trouble.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Well, you mentioned that Bears game on Thursday Night Football,
that that six to three win for the Seahawks last year.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Do you watch that game? By the way, you remember
watching that game?
Speaker 5 (13:43):
I watched the tape.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I watcha Were you entertained by that? Because I found
it excruciating to watch that game? Offensively, I mean honestly,
when you have a game like that, the win is great.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
The win is the win. But would you call that
a good game for your offense?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
A night like that. I'm not gonna comment on you
all the game last year he was.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Talking about you. If you had a game like that,
would you walk away be pissed?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Right, At the end of the day, you want you
want to you want to produce. That's what your job is,
so i'd be I'd be a little upset walking to
the car, but I'd be pretty pretty happy that we
got a w That's what it's all about.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I love that and you you look, the relationship with
you and your dad Shanahan's is obvious.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Hey, to go back on.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
That, I have that that has happened, so like, yes,
that's that's happened plenty of times.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
So I'm not.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
That's my fault for I'm not. I don't need to
talk about last year. That's that's uh, that's a different,
different year. But that happens. That happens on a team. Yeah,
and you got to make sure your players feel how
important it was that you just won, because if yeah,
you can be upset for a little bit, right, Okay,
but you better make sure you're the players know it's
all about winning too.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Well.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm glad that you said that you'd be pissed, because
we'll be pissed with you, all right. You can all
be pissed together if the offense scores six points, but
in the end, it is about to win.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
How much do you still lean on your dad?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
How much do you talk to him, how much does
he kind of send you a little text and notes
about the stuff he sees on tape.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
What's that relationship like right now? From a professional.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Perspective, Yeah, no, I I had lean on him a
lot always. I talk to him almost every day and uh,
you know, and probably a quarter of it is about football,
as you guys could probably imagine. So uh, always asking
for his advice, always accepting. Uh, you know, I usually
hang the phone up a little upset and then usually
call him back later. But hey, you know what, You're
(15:26):
right about that, but really really grateful for his input.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Well, as of right now, the Eagles are the gold standard.
So when you watch that offense perform over the last month,
what impressed you the most about what they did?
Speaker 5 (15:41):
You know?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
I think you look at the team, right They obviously
ran the ball well and it took shots down the field,
and then they played elite defense. So they played together
as a team, you know, not knowing all the details
of it, just that's what stands out watching them from
far team wins.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Well, you you did mention in there that you want
to have a full back and Dick and I got
a little.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Excited by the way hearing that, all right, Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Because I I I believe that every team always has
a full back on the roster, whether it's a defensive
tackle or a tight end or whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Would you personally be opposed.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
If Byron Murphy because we saw the Texas game against
Washington two years ago and they used Sark used Byron
as a as a blocking back in Austin. If he
came to you and said, hey, man, if you need
me to be a blocking back on there for you,
would you be opposed to using Bier Murphy as a
blocking back.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I gotta go watch the tape, you know.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Yes, I'm not as familiar with Byron's offensive reps.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
He's big, He's really big.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Definitely, we'll be we'll be looking at it for sure.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
You were asking the press conference you your toughest interview question.
Can you expand a little bit on the back and
forth that the situational back and forth that you had
with Mike.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Just you know, coach had a had a had a
really cool situational discussion, you know, what would you do
in this situation and kind of a rapid fire thing
and just thought it was a really cool exercise that uh,
that was really smart. But I aim to to grill.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Young you must have passed it.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I would hope, so, I would hope.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Well, listen, you came from New Orleans, where you think
you know good food? This is this This place blows
New Orleans out of the water, not even close by
the way. All right, you need your record restaurant recommendations.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Let us know. Tell us about yourself. You're married, you
got kids? What's your background?
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Like I am? I'm married at four kids?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Them under eight years old?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Oh my god, really.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Really really fortunate to you know, to get to be
a dad of four kids. So excited for them to
get out here and check out Seattle.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
What's what's tough for calling an NFL offense or handling
four kids under the age of eight years old?
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Yeah, that's what my wife, she's just saying.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I love it. Hey, nice to meet she. Welcome to Seattle.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
She'll talk a lot set on the road, buddy, best
of luck, and I appreciate this man, you bet.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Clint Kobiak with us on the radio show good stuff.
There a lot to react to.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
We're gonna break come back with more in a busy
Tuesday right here on ninety three three kJ RFM.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Sofie and Dick on your Home for
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Speaker 2 (18:16):
How much do you value interior offensive lineman?
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Well, I think if you're gonna, if you're gonna be
successful in the in the zone scheme, it all starts
with having an elite center, having a dang Goods center
that can move and it is intelligent and can make calls.
And uh so it all starts from him. And you know,
there's only so much money to go around on a roster.
There is a salary cap, and you have to allocate
those funds to other positions and uh just just because
(18:42):
you may not value them financially based on the percentage
of the cap. The guy gets that that's the most
important part of our team is the offensive line. So
we're gonna spend a lot of time of trying to
trying to make those guys better and getting the most
out of them, and uh that's our challenges coaches.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
And his next phone call came from John Schneider.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
We don't go there, brother.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah, I'm thinking, like, does John no A agree with him.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
That's right, that's right. I know what that means.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Well, look, we like to bust John's balls a lot,
mostly because he can take it.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
He's a great dude, he's been around here a long time.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
But I that's the second time today that I've kind
of asked about the offensive line and the interior, because
you know, there's kind of the infamous, famous whatever you
want to say quote from Schneider where he apparently a
couple of years ago said we don't really value you
or I know we didn't say that directly, obviously.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Overdrafted and yes, yes, he talked about that.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
So I asked Clint Kubiak, you know how much do
you value that position?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Well, he just told you that.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
To run his scheme, he thinks that starts with an
elite center.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
What is elite to you? First team All Pro Pro
bowler minimum?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
We have not had a Pro Bowl center here since
twenty thirteen. The guy's name was Max Sunger.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Last time there was a first team All Pro was
Max Sunger in twenty twelve. Last time before that was
Robbie Tolbeck in two thousand and five. They've only had
two Pro Bowls centers. I believe in their franchise history.
So they're gonna have to do something that they haven't
done in minimum twelve years in this market, let alone,
only really a couple of times in their franchise's history.
(20:12):
So was that for Big Olu? By the way, Olulu
with Tebby, is that a good sign or a bad
sign for his future as the starting center of the
Seattle Seal. I'd say that was a very bad sign
for Big ol I mean, just look look at your
Super Bowl teams, right, Cam Jurgen's Landon Dickerson for Philadelphia
play center and Creed hump Free play center for the Chiefs,
and they are clearly the leaders of that offense, of
(20:35):
the making all the calls on that offensive line. They
are multi time Pro Bowlers.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I don't know, it's just, yeah, it just makes a
lot of sense that that that the middle of you
We always talk about the middle of your defense, right,
both in football and baseball, right, the middle of your defense,
defense up the middle. Same thing on offense, man, the
middle of your offense. That's where it starts.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Absolutely, And look, I mean I haven't taken a look,
I haven't analyzed or brooken down these center last and
last year's draft, well, I will. I mean, typically I
only look at first round centers, Dick, so we'll see,
you have to look and see what the rest of
the draft looks like. But now we'll get we'll sick
Millan on it and we'll see if there's a Creed
Humphrey out there, maybe in this year's draft. But I
do think that we are getting tired of the revolving door.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
At that position, right, no question about it.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
And we've talked about this before that there's a reason
why the Hawks went out and got Connor Williams. And
I thought after year one, hell, I thought when they
drafted him. Let me backtrack even further, when they drafted
old the willowo ad tend me out a Michigan like,
this guy's the Outland Trophy winner. What the hell we
got him in the sixth round, fifth round whatever it
was last year, two years ago.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
He's your he's your he's your future at center. He's
gonna take over for Evan or Ethan Brown.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Was it Evan or Ethan by the way, Evan Evan Brown, Yes,
And he didn't get it done and they went out
and signed Connor Williams. I mean that was kind of
a desperate move by them to go ahead and get
a guy that clearly wasn't ready yet to play football
because he was coming off the knee injury with the
Dolphins the year before, and then Golu was playing second fiddle.
So you know, I thought he played okay. You know,
(22:04):
from what my I observed, he was okay. I mean,
nothing dominant about him. You know, La Maya was okay,
nothing dominant about him. But I think there's a chance
that you're gonna see him replaced, and I think they're
gonna try and replace them. Can they Dick is a
different question.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Well, Ryan Kelly is a free agent. He was the
bias paid offensive or a center rather at fourteen point
two five million dollars. I mean, that's six percent of
the cap. There was only two teams that spent more
than four percent of the cap on their center position.
That was Indianapolis at six point three three and Detroit
(22:38):
at six point nine to five. And both of them
have really, really good centers. So I mean, you're gonna
have to spend a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Man.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Well, I think you're gonna first look at and see
how many guys are free agent from the Saints, and
if they're any good, I mean, he's gonna want to
bring in some guys with familiarity, right, He's doing it
with coaches. But we'll go back to look at the
Saints offensive line and see if anybody showed up there.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
But you know had news for you. By the way,
what's that The Saints are one of two teams that
Spade is spent less at the center position.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Well, I mean they may have a young guy, right,
I just want to see what they're what their roster
looks like. They do have a couple of free agent
offensive linemen. Most of these guys have never heard of,
and most of them didn't make any money. They got
a center named Shane the mu is, a hockey player,
by the way.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
They got a right tackle who's a free agent. They
got a left guard and a left tackle, Olas sameca Udo.
I'm sure I'm butchering his name, Lucas Patrick. I can
pronounce that guy's name. So they do have some free
agent offensive lineman. But are they any good? I have
no idea. I just think with him again, the biggest
thing that Clint Kobiak can do for this offense is
(23:39):
to settle down the offensive line. And this John Benton guy,
by the way, who they just hired, is the offensive
line coach. I feel like we're not talking enough about him, Dick.
If you look at John Benton, he first of all,
he looks like an offensive line coach. I mean, that's
the guy right there. Okay, he just reeks of an
offensive line grizzled, grizzled, never gonna have a desire to
be a head coach, doesn't want to be a head coach.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Libya the hell alone.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Let me coach his offensive linemen and then go over
to the freaking Dinos pub and have six hundred beers,
all right, and leave me the hell alone.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
So this guy last year was with the Saints.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
He was with the Jets from twenty one to twenty two,
the Niners in seventeen to twenty. He was actually their
offensive line coach. The forty nine Ers from twenty seventeen
to twenty twenty for four years he was the forty
nine Ers offensive line coach, and they went to the
Jets for a couple of seasons with them. So I
like that, and I feel like he's the guy that
we almost should be talking about more. How much progress
(24:32):
can John Benton make overnight with this offensive line. Can
he do for the line what Vic Fangio did for.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
The Eagles defense.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Well, we saw a bump when Mike Solari was here, right,
we saw I mean, they didn't become a top five
offensive line because they didn't have the talent to become
a top five offensive line. But we saw a bump there,
you know. And I was looking at center free agents today,
you know, just for fun, right, because that's definitely a
position they got hurt into. An old friend is available,
Coleman Shelton, who has you know, a lot of time
(25:01):
as a center and as a starting center in the NFL.
I mean, there's a guy that's been around for six
or seven years, still in the prime of his career,
and wouldn't cost a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Would you be naming him though if he didn't play
for the Huskies? No, Okay, thank you for admitting that, Dick.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, I mean, hey, look, and I get it, right,
I mean, but I'm saying that you know him, that's.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
The type of guy.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
And the reason I brought him up is he was
like seventh or eighth on the list of free agent centers, right,
because I know John Schneider's not going to get the
first or second.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Well, in Dick's defense, he did start forty seven games
the last two years with the Rams in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
He was good with ls started all.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Seventeen games with the Bears a year ago, seventeen games
of the Rams in twenty three, thirteen games, and the
Rams in.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
So he is I mean, he would automatically bring way
more experience than olus guy or there's no doubt about that,
and probably can play both garden center, right, so he's
a swing guy. But look, I mean, that's the kind
of thing they have to look at. You know, how
much money will they have for the offensive line right now?
The Hawks don't have squat to spend, so they got
to they got to create some money.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
You know, guys like.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Tyler Lockett for example, Gino Smith's contract getting restructured. They
just did Leonard Williams over and got his deal done.
All right, we're gonna break how about little textimonials four nine,
four five one. We'll hit that, hit it hard on
the telemore dude text line, and then John Wilner will
join us, by the way, coming up at five right
here on ninety three three kJ arfm
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