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February 11, 2025 38 mins
Jon Wilner joins the show to talk about the draft prospects of Shadeur Sanders, bubble teams heading into March, and much more.  Gregg Bell, our Seahawks insider, joins the show to talk about his thoughts on the Klint Kubiak press conference.  Sloppy Seconds.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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It was a Sounders game. Yes, it was a comeback.
I want to say Minnesota that it was like down
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
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Speaker 4 (00:31):
Did they trail Minnesota like to nothing with like two
minutes left to go in the game? And they have
a highlight for the game.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
All right, where do you want to start?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Seahawks officially introducing Clint Kobiak as their offensive coordinator today,
also adding three more assistant coaches, including offensive line coach
John Benton, who was with the Saints a year ago.
He was the forty nine Ers offensive line coach from
twenty seventeen to twenty twenty. Uh Andrew Janako by getting
his name right, by the way, that's a it's a
fun name to say. Janako it's Jinoko, I asked, is

(01:03):
it Janoko? I'm gonna call him Janako. I'd be like,
you're Jared Kelnick thing. Until he proves he can coach
for I'm gonna call it by the wrong name. Michael
Byrne also added today as a assistant to the offense.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
There's something we can talk to Willoner about. The top
sixteen teams the NCAA Tournament for games played through this
Friday will be revealed on Saturday morning on CBS.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Eagles offensive coordinator Kellen Moore prior to Prosser, Boise State
quarterback officially today announced as the New Orleans Saints brand
new head coach.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
More than Caitlin Clark effect here, Dave, how about this?
More than ten different ownership groups have submitted formal bids
for w NBA teams ahead of the down line.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
But you think at some point the salary gap would
go up a lot. Salary is the same thing, right,
Dodgers bringing back Clayton Kershaw on a one year deal.
Three time Siting Award winner is back in LA for
his eighteenth season. He may miss the first couple of
months though, after coming off surgery in November. And how
about this Ty France baby back watch. Ty French just
kill it this year, signing a one year contract with Minnesota,

(02:05):
don't you know? All right, let's get to John Wilner
right now.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
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Speaker 2 (02:29):
I just got a frantic phone off from Jessman mackintire.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
The Mariners are gonna have an announcement in five minutes.
Have no idea what it's all about. Butt five o'clock tonight.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
The Mariners just announced they're going to carry fifteen Cactus
League games on.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Root Sports Northwest this year.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
That was announcement.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
That's the announcement, more Aaroner fashion, more spring training games
than ever. I've's good for them, right, I mean there really,
let's be there's no reason to watch Root Sports outside
of Mariner baseball.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Well, have we dropped it for crying out loud on fubo.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Have we both decided we're not reupping until opening know.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
What spring training basements? I need spring training baseball in
my life? Yes, well, what else? Watch it on a telescope?
Actually there, I'm not going to.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
No, I want to. I want to have it.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
Under the back.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
If a marinor fan tells me I'm gonna go watch
spring training, cool, you're going down. It's seventy degrees.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
It's gonna be like Sanders down and watching spring and
see how on a night like tonight when it's freezing cold,
you might want to flip on some Cactus League baseball
and team.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
I know I would be your best bet, but no,
I do not know.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
What if the Mariners have lost you, holy cow man,
that's like, that's like CNN losing Biden. Forget about it, man,
They're done, all right, Let's stop complaining. John Willener is
like boys boys joining us right now? On hold courtesy
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(03:54):
of the pack, the big ten baron our buddy, Johnny Wilner,
how are you, man?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
I'm good? Hey, you guys good. Where do you stand
on watching spring training baseball on TV?

Speaker 6 (04:05):
I did not know spring training baseball was on TV?

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Okay, on next topic that you move on.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
Like that has never been on my radar ever once.
This is hoops college hoops must.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Hey, I get it.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
And if there's a bigger game on great. I just
I mean for me, it's like comfort food. Right if
you're sitting at home and it's dark outside and you
can watch low spring training cactles maybe on replay with
the sunshine whatever. I just like having it in the background.
So you know what, screw you guys, stop making fun
of me. I like watching cactlestick baseball. Hey, John, before
we get going with everything happening on the Calvid Drinks,
give us your take on that turd of a super

(04:40):
Bowl that you saw on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Huh.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
I mean to me, it was a lot like the
two Giants wins over the Pats, and uh, the Bucks
win over the Chiefs and maybe even Eagles over over Pats.
If you can get pressure rushing four linemen and dropping seven,
you're gonna make a Hall of Fame quarterback look average.
I mean that's the recipe, right there.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
No question about it. And now looking forward to next year,
I mean, we're looking at a couple of Colorado Buffaloes
that could go one two in the NFL draft, and
I have a tough time if you need a quarterback
to shy away from sudr Sanders. But a lot of
people think that he's not gonna be the number one
pick and it's gonna go to his buddy Hunter. Where
are you kind of leaning in that?

Speaker 6 (05:25):
I think, well, first, I don't think that there's a
quarterback in the draft that's worth the number one pick right.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Second, I don't.

Speaker 6 (05:32):
Know how an NFL team could watch what just happened
on Sunday. I mean, you guys saw the pressure that
the Eagles got off the edges, right and a dual
Carter is sitting there right the Penn State defensive end.
I think he was the best player, best defensive player
in college football. I have to think that that is

(05:54):
going to have an impact on the number one pick, right.
I mean, if you can get pressure with four, you
are set.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
No.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
We saw him play in the Uh, in the Washing game.
He was unblockable that day in Happy Valley. So I'm uh,
I'm kind of with you, but you know, well, let
me go back to Shador Sanders for a little bit,
because I agree with you that there's nobody here that
really I would consider taking number one overall in the draft.
I mean, the stories I've heard about cam Ward kind
of scared the hell out of me. But there's something
about Shador Sanders as a leader that that I don't like.

(06:25):
Am I am I just getting sucked in too much
to the cockiness of the Sanders family and not giving
the kid enough enough credit for who he is on
his own.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
What do you make of Shador Sanders as a leader
of men? Because Obi has to do that when he's
in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:40):
I mean this is an outsider's perspective because I'm not
covering the team every day. But from what I've seen,
I think that there's a maturity issue, right. I don't
like some of his postgame antics that that you know,
weeks of immaturity to me.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (06:55):
And you know he's not that, he's very accurate, He's
not that big. I never great arm I'm not sold
on him at all or on Camboard. I guess part
of it is too that I watched cam Ward for
two years at Washington State, and you saw him, you know,
he would go into these stretches where he just would

(07:18):
kind of get his own.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Head mistake after mistake.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
And I don't he played very well at Miami, but
I did not look and see a number one.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Pick right there.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
When you look at the who the best quarterbacks are
on the NFL, in the top say six or eight,
it's very difficult to envision either of those guys being
in that top tier.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
By the way, if you want to go see what
Abdul Carter did against the Huskies for what he could
do in the NFL, he had six tackles, two sacks,
and four TFLs against the Dogs in that one game. Yeah,
so that's the guy John's talk o.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Right, Well, I mean I don't.

Speaker 6 (07:54):
I think he's bigger than Michael Parsons a little bit,
but it's the same kind of impact going all the
way back to like LeVar Arrington.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Right right.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
You know. The one more thing on Shador though, I
the one thing I'm gonna defend him for a second.
You stop, He's crapping on him, You're kind of crapping out.
I'mna defend him for a second. I think he's got
an it factor. He is I have seen it's I mean,
I'm sure it's not this many times, but it seems
to me like there's been five or six games in
the last couple of years that he has just pulled

(08:24):
out of the fire in fourth quarter and overtime. He
seems like he gets bigger and better as the game
goes on. Is that Is that accurate? Or am I
just dreaming?

Speaker 1 (08:33):
No?

Speaker 4 (08:34):
No, I think you're right.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
He's played very well in a lot of fourth quarters.
There's no doubt. I just don't know, you know, if
if that's enough, right, yeah, to convince me to take
him number one. And I'm not even sure that you
know I pick Hunter won right because of Carter? Also,
where are you gonna play Hunter? I think you know,
there's been a lot of debate on that, and I

(08:57):
don't think that the two way deal is gonna last
very long in the NFL. He's gonna have to pick
a position.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
And is he better?

Speaker 6 (09:05):
Is there a better chance on a Hunter? Is an
elite receiver or an elite corner? I would tend to
think his better kids. He's gonna be an elite corner
right right.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
By the way.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
This is great because now that you're covering the Big
twelve and the Big ten and the old Pac twelve,
all this falls under the Wilner umbrella. So there's just
more stuff that we can talk about with you. So
I kind of like this. I know, you know, I mean,
all the extra work kind of sucks, but I know
you like it. John, let me ask you. I don't
know if we talked about Brendan Carroll Leavin for the
Raiders last week. You know Jed Fish naming Jimmy Doherty

(09:38):
is his brand new OC. You know, Jed's still gonna
call plays. And then Michael Switzer, no relation to Barry
is the new offensive line coach. Some folks had thought
that maybe Jed should Scald should call Scott Huff, and
we had Jed with us a week ago and we
asked him about that. He basically said, look, you know,
Switcher has been with me for a long time. He's
my guy. Deserved a promotion. But Scott Huff would have

(09:58):
taken the job. If Jetfish had called him. He would
have stayed here the last thing Scott wanted to do
was move his family, because he's one of these unicorns
where he has not had to move a lot in
his coaching career. He spent eight years in Seattle, He's
spent all his coaching life in the Pacific Northwest. Now
he's staying on the West coast going to LA with
the Rams. But did Jetfish make a mistake and not

(10:20):
calling Scott Huff back to return to UDUB.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
I've been thinking about this, and certainly to me, the
Switzer hires the biggest one, at least on offense, because
Jet is going to call the play, So the Darty position,
that's important, but not as big a deal as it
would be if you had a head coach who weren't
calling the place so offensive line, especially given how they played.
How important that position is within the Big ten style

(10:47):
of play, that Switzer hire is huge. I so I
go down. You can make the case either way. One
is Fish has a track record of hiring very well,
and you know, a lot for a lot of coaches,
that's a difficult assignment. He's got a knack for making
good hires, and I think part of it is because

(11:09):
he's been at so many places in college in the NFL.
He has seen this huge sweep of different types of
coaches and really knows what he wants and what's gonna work,
So you could give him the benefit of the doubt.
On the other hand, I like my offensive line coaches
with pot bellies, no hair, critic knuckles, and like seventy

(11:32):
five years old, because those are the guys that have
been in the trenches forever and really understand how to
coach that position at a high level.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Does Switzer have a beer belly?

Speaker 6 (11:44):
I don't know. He looks like he's young, though. I mean,
he's got lots of hair, he looks young. He looks
you know, he was at Indiana State for a while,
and he was starting at John Carroll. John Carroll's good,
good school for football, there's no doubt. But he has
not been an offensive line coach in major college football,
you know, for fifty years at ten different schools, And

(12:06):
that's the way I like them for that position.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Love it.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
John. We talked about this briefly last week, but it's
just at the end. Can you kind of give us
an indication of how this NFL calendar is potentially problematic
for the college football Playoff.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
Yeah, I think it's a huge deal. I think the
NFL is the number one existential threat to college football.
It's not revenue sharing, it's not the NCAA changes or whatever.
It's the NFL because they are gonna take eventually, they're
gonna take every window. They can get, every TV window,

(12:44):
they can get, the entire fall, the entire winner. If
Goodell gets his way with that eighteenth game, right, they're
probably gonna play that eighteenth game. They're not gonna start earlier.
They're gonna play it in January, second week of January,
so the January calendar is going to get that much
more crowded. Can college football continue to have its playoff

(13:05):
its crown jewel? Like in the January twentieth amidst all
this NFL, all these games, all the media oxygen to
voted the NFL. I think they got to move it.
And to me, moving it back into the week in
between the AFCNSC championships in the Super Bowl, you can

(13:28):
make the case because there's no other football going on,
but that's awfully late. I think they got to move
the whole thing up. The entire playoff calendar. They got
to move up by like two weeks, so they finished
the season early January. Otherwise it's gonna get buried by
the NFL, and that's gonna be even worse. I mean,
Ohio State and Notre Dame did twenty two million viewers,

(13:52):
not as well as Washington and Michigan. And if you're
going just on the brand value, Ohio State and Notre
Dame should do killer numbers. And it didn't do killer numbers,
and they got to move that game up.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
John Wilner with US courtesy is simply Seattle. John.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
I'm looking at an Oregon Duck basketball team that is
starting to struggle big time. They've lost five games in
a row. They just got beat back to back nights
by Michigan and Michigan State where they I.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Think they're ninth in the Big Ten.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Right now, they're thirty fifth in NET But there's always
one or two teams in like the top forties somehow,
some way that get left out. If I'm an Oregon fan,
which I'm not. I have too many teeth to be
an Oregon fan. But if I were an Oregon fan,
how nervous should I be about missing the NCAA tournament
right now?

Speaker 6 (14:44):
Not nervous at all.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Okay, opinion. I think that they're twelfth in the big
team n by the big twelfth. Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
They have a lot of good wins in November, and
so the thing that's helping them is that the committee
used to look at at last ten games, but they
did away with that a few years ago. And part
of the reason they did away with it is that
teams like then Zaga that were in the second tier conferences,
but the games Oregon won early in the season and

(15:15):
they got a bunch of big wins in November, those
count just as much as the results in late February.
And so they've got like seven quadrant won wins. They
have no bad losses. They've played a tough schedule. I
think if the tournament were seated today, as the top
part of it's gonna be seen this weekend, they'd be

(15:36):
like a six or seven seed. They're a lot. I
think they're a long way from being in serious trouble,
and you know, they've got enough winnable games down the
stretch that I think they're gonna I think they're gonna
be fine. Not probably not a popular opinion in Seattle,
but I think they're fine.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Well, there's not really as much hatred for the Ducks
basketball team as there is for the football team, but
there's still hatred. Yeah, we're still not rooting for them
when they go playoffs, there's no question about that. But
or the tournament. Rather, speaking of the tournament, what about
the Zags? I mean, the last time the Zags lost,
I heard I read I read people writing, Oh, they're
on the bubble. And then I look at the Ken

(16:12):
Palm and their thirteenth I look at the net and
their fourteenth. How is a thirteenth or fourteenth ranked team
on the bubble?

Speaker 6 (16:20):
Well, I don't think they are on the bubble, but
relative to what we're used to seeing from Gonzaga, it
feels like the bubble right there. It got three WCC losses.
I think it's gonna be hard for them to overtake
Saint Mary's for the regular season title. Plus they lost
the UCLA, they lost to Kentucky Yukon. They were all close,

(16:40):
but they had those series of December showdowns and they
lost all of them. So it feels much worse than
it is because they're usually got you know, you're usually
like twenty and two at this point this season so
their defense has been bad at times. I mean, Mark,
you looks very frustrated with how they're playing defense. But
again it's relative and they're gonna they're gonna be fine.

(17:03):
But if they don't figure out the defensive end, they're
gonna be out the first weekend. If they do figure
out the defensive end, they're gonna be playing on the
second weekend.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
John, I hate to put you on the spot, uh,
but last week we do. Yeah, last week we asked
you about you dub's new president. The Koug's have a
new one since then as well. Uh, first woman to
ever serve in that role at Wazoo. Elizabeth can't Well
is the new Washington State president, and I'm sure a
lot of Cooter fans would love to hear your take
on how that would potentially be a benefit or a

(17:33):
detriment to the athletic department there.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
Well, unlike last week when when I think that UW
News broke, you know, the day we we chated. Uh,
I've had a little bit of time to make some
calls about Campwell and and uh, the feedback I've gotten
is very positive. If you're a Washington State fan, you
know it's it's an just like the Washington Higher it's
an interconference. Move right, Illinois to Washington is ten to

(18:00):
Big ten and you stay to Washington State is new
PAC twelve to new PAC twelve. So she has watched
the whole realignment thing take unfold, and you just State
did a very good job positioning themselves to get into
the new Pac PAC twelve.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
And that has to do with her.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
She was at Arizona for several years when you know,
prior to the implosion of the PAC twelve. So she understands.
You know, I think major college athletics at the high level,
and the feedback I've gotten says that she gets how
football in particular is the front porch for the whole

(18:41):
university and can do so much if it's successful for
every facet of your school. And so if I'm a
Cougar fan, I am cautiously optimistic for sure.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Good.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
I love it all right, John, great stuff. You are
the front porch of this radio station. By the way,
how you performed dictates the tempo and the atmosphere around
this thing. If you stink, the whole station falls about
falls apart. But if you deliver like you did today,
we're going right to the top, baby, John, You're the man,
great stuff, and we're.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Talking a week buddy.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
Thanks a lot, guys.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
All right, John Wilner with us. Greg Bell is here
at the vMac. We're gonna get Greg's thoughts on the
press conference with Clint Kubiak. We'll talk to Greg about
the Seahawks. All that coming up with Greg here from
the Seahawks facility of the Virginia Mason Athletic Center. Next
on ninety three three KJRFM.

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Speaker 2 (19:46):
All right, boys and girls, back here in the busy
Tuesday night from the vMac.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Big Day. Clint Kubiak was with us earlier today.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
You missed it, jump on the website check it out
ninety three three KJR FM. But a guy who is
continuing on as our Seahawk insider. Man, can't wait to
hear you on the every morning. Greg Bell. Great to
be with you, man, and great to have you back
on the year with us, buddy, And let's let's first
of all just talk about kind of today. I mean,
first impressions of what you saw from this guy. Hard
to tell until we get going in September, but your

(20:13):
your thoughts on what you gleaned from the press conference
with Kubiak today, Well.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
Dave, anyone who wants to think that Gino Smith and
DK Metcalf are on their way out of town probably
weren't happy listening to clear today. The thing that he
said attracted him to the job was Gino Smith and
the opportunity to work with him. And he recited what
metcalf has said or what McDonald has said, that he
admires his path, how he's overcome, how he was discarded
by four teams and now is a starter again at

(20:38):
age thirty four, is going on thirty five, So tea
leave reading he's not going anywhere, and they don't have
a quarterback beyond Genosmith anyway, and so it appears Gino
Smith's going to be Clint Kubiaks for not just this year,
but beyond. The second thing I found interesting was the
question I asked Kubiak and MacDonald about how do you

(21:00):
maximize DK Metcalf, And I knew that had to be
top of mind to every single coordinator that McDonald talked
to throughout January, and he went coast to coast around
the league to do it. He talked to the line
coaches and Hank Fraley Detroit. He talked to experienced coordinators
those that didn't have experience. Yudinsky from Minnesota eventually got

(21:20):
the Jaguars job, and you con bet that he said, Okay,
how are you gonna make Dk Metcalf the best? Dk Metcalf?
And McDonald admitted that to me today that yeah, that
was a question that every single offensive coordinator candidate had
a plan for, and he said Kubiak had the best
plan for how to maximize Metcalf. Now, I asked Kubiak
what that plan was, and no surprise, he wasn't going
to reveal that in February, seven months before the Games

(21:43):
get real. But no doubt McDonald has already tasked Kubiak,
how do you get the most out of Metcalf. We're
gonna move him around, We're gonna probably play him in
the slot. We're probably gonna put in more motion. We're
probably gonna try to get him one on one situations.
And let's not just have it enough that the defense
is putting cloud coverage and bracketing him with the safety
over the top. Let's do more. Let's get him out

(22:05):
of that coverage and get him into open space even
when teams are doubling him. There were times that I think, well,
I know that Ryan grubbs schemes last season got Jackson
Smith and Jigba open at the expense of throwing the
ball to dk Metceff McDonald doesn't want that. He wants
both of them to be open. He wants some coordinators
play calls now kobiaks to get m Metcalfe in the

(22:29):
open field.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
And then the third thing I took out of this
is the job.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
One for him, as I knew it was, is for
he and the new offensive line coach, John Benton's coming
with him from the Saints to fix this offensive line.
And they weren't revealing that either other than to say
we're looking at free agents, we're looking at draft picks.
They are going to have new offensive linemen because they
have to right now. They have a new voice to
help picket.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
What is the market value on Gino Smith? Because I
agree with you, he's probably going to be here, but
not at forty four point five million dollars and not
signed to a lone long long term deal. So what
are we looking at here?

Speaker 5 (23:03):
Two years maybe fifty million with guaranteed money up front
twenty five million a year that would extend maybe two
years beyond this one, so they he'd have three years
to push that money across the forty four and a
half million dollar Capit can then get spread across three
years rather than one.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
You could get out of after twenty six.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
Or give him a two year deal with void years
after it.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
If they just did void years, but that cap number
for this year's coming down. He won't play at forty.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
Four and a half and they designed it that way.
All big contracts are designed to a balloon in the
last years, because that's the decision point. You want to
give the player the first couple of years of a
three year deal to show what he's playing at it,
in Smith's case, age thirty four, and then that last
season is an artificially high number that they are going
to They know when they sign it that they're going
to change that number, whether it's that they're going to
cut him. And in this case, would a thirty one

(23:54):
million dollar capt trade him with a thirty one million
dollar capit or extend him and put that forty four
and a half million across two or three years. So
I think that's what's gonna happen. The same question I
asked John Schneider at the end of the draft back
in May that he got ticked off about. It's still
the same question applies now. What is their long term
planet quarterback? They don't have one under contract after twenty
twenty five. I think that's about to change here in

(24:15):
the next one.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Well, Greg Bell's with us on the radio show, and
you mentioned something there that kind of caught my eye
when you said there's gonna be new offensive lineman on
this football team.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
How many new offensive linemen will there be?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Because Kubiak was with us today and I asked him
flat out because I wanted to bring it up to
get his reaction to what Schneider has said before about
how much he values or doesn't value interior lineman.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
And overpaid over drives.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Right, Kubiak said with us that everything in his scheme
will start with the center. So that's a little bit
of a different approach. I mean, do we feel like
Big Ol'do is going to be that guy? Will they
sign somebody else while they have two new guards. How
many new linemen, Greg, I need a number three?

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Oh wow, I think I like that.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
I think they're gonna have If Oloo t Simmy was there,
they wouldn't have signed Connor Williams right half months after
knee surgery, who then walks off the job in the
middle of the season. They wouldn't have had Christian Haynes
practicing at center for the first time in his life
at the end of the last season. I was interviewing
someone in the indoor facility the last practice week of
the year before the Rams game, and out of corner
my ass saw Christian Haynes doing shotgun snaps, snapping the

(25:19):
ball bag. I was like, wait a minute. Haynes has
never played center. He was up guard for forty nine
consecutive starts at Connecticut. He didn't win the right guard
spot because he couldn't beat out anybody and Anthony Bradford
they don't like or else they wouldn't given Christian Haynes
the opportunity and they ventured out. Lenya ended up being
the rookie sat out Labe I ended up being the
starter at the end of the season, so that was

(25:40):
their fourth, third, fourth choice at right guard. They aren't
sold at center for Olowa Timmy or he would have
had the job already, and Kubiak's going to look long
and hard at either drafting or bringing one in. And
Laken Tomlinson's leaving it left guard. He was a one
year fill in in his early thirties and was beaten
especially early soundly inside and when you get inside pressure

(26:00):
quarterbacks done. So you're gonna have a new left guard.
And they have incumbents that they like a right guard,
and they do like LeMay a lot, but they'd be
foolish not to have Lemeya compete with somebody new from
the outside. The Kubiak and his new line coach, John
Benton's bringing in. Everyone's overlooking John Benton. He's a nineteen
year veteran of NFL coaching. He was an offensive line
coach for the forty nine ers under Kyle Shanahan and

(26:23):
then he went to the Jets to be the run
game coordinator and line coach. Of course, was with the
Saints this past season with Kubiak. John Benton's gonna have
a huge say on this offensive line, more so than
Scott Huff did remember Scott Huff got hired, not even
this time last year. It was after this time last
year that he joined the new staff, and he was
in his first time in the NFL. He didn't know
anybody in the league, players, coaches, schemes, nothing, and so

(26:48):
the offensive line was largely built on the recommendations of
John Schneider and the player personnel side of the house.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Not this year.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
John Benton knows everybody in the league and they know him,
and he, along with Kubiak, are going to have much
more of a coaching influence on who the players are
in the offensive line this year.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
So will John Schneider change his philosophy? We have overdrafted,
overpaid because and do they have enough money? I mean,
do they have enough money for a Trey Smith? Do
they have enough money from a Drew Dolman of the
Falcons that the number one center in free agency?

Speaker 5 (27:17):
Well, they're not gonna get Tray Smith because he's going
to get overbid by everybody in the league. Kansas City
Chiefs guard is going to make the highest, probably highest
free agency offensive line salary in the league this year.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Dick.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
If they don't change how they pick, how John Schneider
has entrusted his personnel staff what their philosophy has been
on offensive lineman. If they don't change how they pick
the guys, they're going to have the same type of players, right,
which for ten years has failed. You have to change
the approach to change the result. You get the same approach,

(27:48):
you can have to get the same results. So will
John Schneider yield whatever he's had for the last ten
years as his formula for drafting and signing offensive lineman?
Will he change that? He now has an experienced offensive
line coach nineteen years. Reminds me of Mike Slari a
few years ago with the Seahawks. He has a guy
now who he should and can lean on to be

(28:09):
the experienced voice on offensive line and help him draft.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Maybe absolutely, he'd he'd been negligent not to.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
If he doesn't do that, though, I think it's going
to be the same result, And then that means Kenneth
Walker and Jackson Smith and Jigba and DK Metcalf and Gino.
So it doesn't matter what they do if you have
the same product.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
In the offensive line.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Greg Bell's with us kind of slightly aroused to hear
him say he wants to use a fullback. Oh yeah,
you almost jumped over me behind me. Well, Dick's Dix
got me convinced it's a good idea. I mean, look,
I I think they already have a fullback on the roster.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
His name is Byron Murphy.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
They they could have used him a year ago if
they wanted to, right, but they could have used anybody totally, Greg,
They could have used anybody.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
In that role.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
He's kind a touchdown pass.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yes, any defensive tackle, any tied end whatever in that role,
and they they just didn't do it. But I mean,
I'm just thinking the last kind of real full time
was it tou Kawafu maybe the last full time full
back they had.

Speaker 5 (29:08):
There.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Do we think that they'll draft the full back or
sign a full back in free agency or just tinker
with the guys they have now?

Speaker 3 (29:14):
I think they'll sign one.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
I'm not sure they'll use a draft pick on one
unless they think he's going to help in special teams
in a big way. Kubiak also mentioned it a he'll
use tight ends as a full back, and they have
Drake youngstill on the roster who's played some fullback and
is big enough to be a blocking tight back a J.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Barner.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
Of the tight ends that they have is more of
the blocker. I don't think no Offan is gonna be
on the roster this year. I think he's going to
be cap saving they're gonna give him. But I don't
think they're gonna draft one. I think they'll sign one.
I think it will be a limited role. They'll sign
a veteran probably who has special teams experience also play fullback.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
You mentioned no A Fan there, and another reason that
John Schneider could change his stripes would be to trade up.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
In the draft.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Oh, you can get a replacement for Noah Fan by
trading up a few spot in the draft and getting
Tyler Warren, who many think is just another Brock Bowers
plus type guy. Do you see that work? Do you
see a move like that, whether it be for Warren
or somebody else. Do you think John Schneider will be Okay?
My drafts have been okay, hit and miss the last

(30:16):
few years. Maybe I should change my philosophy a little bit,
maybe get a little more aggressive in the first.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
Round, mostly miss, not as many hits. Yeah, but I
think he'll draft, trade down as he always does, and
then draft lineman high. I think he's gonna stock up
some more draft picks and then choose offensive lineman. If
he's right in that offensive lineman are overvalued. He couldn't
get guys that he values and appreciates lower in the
first round. It's just so against his nature to trade up,

(30:42):
especially for a tight end position. If you trade up, well,
I was gonna say, if you trade up, you got
to take a quarterback. But I was looking today at
the list of the draft order this year. Five of
the top seven teams picking in this draft all need quarterbacks, right,
That's why they stink and are drafting that high. So
just like last year, right, except this year's draft class
doesn't have far first round pick, So the Seahawks aren't

(31:04):
getting a quarterback that can help them right away. So
I think they're going to trade down and get offensive line.
They absolutely have to draft right on it. It's not
just drafting drafting, right, And that's why I think John
Benton comes in as a new life. But I've said
this and written this. They could bring Bill Walsh reincarnated
to call the plays if they don't fix the offensive line.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
No question.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
All right, man, great stuff. Good to see you Morning
show this week, right as usual?

Speaker 5 (31:29):
Correct, Tomkay, Yeah, I feel like I'm coming back.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
From you are Hey, look you never let them keep
me down.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
Man.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
You know what good news is you get so much
extra time now on your hands. Dick and I are
jealous by the way you want to do three to seven.
It's all yours, Greg, good stuff. Bank you to see
a po appreciate this, buddy rec bell with us. We're
going to break a lot more to get to on
a busy Tuesday from the vMac right here, Virginia Mason
Athletic Center. On ninety three to three KJRFM live from.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
The R and R Foundation Specialists Broadcast Studio, Now to
Softian Dick Gone your home for the Huskies and the
Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
FM got Creighton and yukon with the Drunks in Nebraska.
Creighton's in Nebraska, right, Yeah, So they're apparently what's the
deal with the beer tonight at the game at Creighton.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
Well, so evidently the last time Danny Hurley, our favorite
head coach from you come like to fight? Who likes
to fight with everybody, was walking off the court and
he told a Creighton fan who was heckling him, I'll
come and knock you out. So now he's back for
the first time since that little episode. Wow, and the

(32:41):
powers that be at Creighton University. I do not think
this would happen at you dub, but the powers that
be at Creighton University decided this is a perfect night
to offer one dollar beer.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Stan Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Well, I mean they got to put a limit on
how many beers you can buy or have breathalyzers at
every concession stand because.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
The two at a time, but go to the you
can go to some different concession standing game two more.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I mean, you're asking for trouble tonight. I love the
fact that we have this game on radio, Like.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (33:09):
We're just getting into kind of getting people fired up
for the NCAA Tournament College basketball, and the first game
we're gonna carry is Creighton the Blue Jays, right Create
University getting their fans inebriated on purpose to.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Welcome Danny Hurley back to the breson Aweso.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
They have the dump button going the entire game, just
because you know you're gonna hear something in the back.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Well, I mean, Westwood one might want to do something
about it. But I don't know, dude. I just love
the fact that we have this game on radio. All right, Hey,
before we get to Creighton and Yukon, how about a
little sloppy.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Seconds like the.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Dudle of that little sloppy seconds here at four nine
four five one. Uh, let's see, spring training baseball is
much better than regular season NBA Basketball says the nine
to seven to one. You're busting my balls about watching
spring training baseball. I love spring training baseball on TV.
We haven't seen baseball since September, obviously, at least with
the Mariners. To me, it's like comfort food. It's like

(34:06):
chicken soup for the soul. When you flip on the
TV and you see some Cactus League baseball. I like
having it on his background noise. To be honest with you,
I will also admit, though, by the way, I'll flip
on the game for the very first time, and then
maybe a couple of innings in I'm done well.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
I would say the importance of your typical NBA game
is about the same as the importance of a typical
spring training game, which is not very high, not at all.
But the level of talent you are watching when you
were watching an NBA game, of course, versus watching number
ninety eight pitch to number seventy nine in the seventh

(34:41):
thing in Peoria is a is another thing.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Like I said, it's just it's just background noise for you.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
All right, I'm not watching it because I were to
give it damn about who's playing in the game, to
be honest with you, but it is a little comforting.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Does those sound like a salty Texter who is mad
at the world and says I will never watch an
NBA game him again, that is until the sun has
come back.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
I've been hang on a second, though, because even you
have admitted that the NBA product has regressed a little
bit this year. In the regular season, we got a
lot of bored basketball teams. Right, Do we give a
damn less about seedings now in the playoffs than ever before?

Speaker 3 (35:16):
I think we do.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I mean, obviously we're focused on who the one seeds are.
That's fine, But the idea that a sixth seed or
a five seed can no longer make the NBA finals
forget it.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah, no, that's right.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
And but I I think for me and Andrews, you
can you can speak on this because you're a big
NBA fan. For me, the most intriguing part of the
trade deadline. Chris just says he doesn't know anything.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Chris loves to rail me about it. To watch the games.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
I'm like, yeah, dude, I do. But he's an NBA fan,
And I would just say the Western Conference to me
is incredibly intriguing because the teams that are gonna be
like four, five, six are the veteran teams, the Warriors,
the Lakers, and the teams at the top are gonna
be the teams that haven't done squat Oklahoma City, Memphis. Like,

(36:08):
that's what's gonna be unbelievable. And to watch it, is
it gonna be the young athletic teams or is it
gonna be the Lucas Lebron's, Jimmy Butler's and steps.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
I just think you got a lot of board basketball
teams that don't give a damn until the playoffs start.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Uh. And I think you're seeing it again this year.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
I think it's starting to little conferences.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Well yeah, because it's February now, right, But November and December,
forget about no.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
I could care less NBA game in November and December.
But when football season's over, which it is now, Oh, absolutely,
here we go.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Let's see uh sloppy seconds. Cam dresses like he's gonna
go see the Wizard. He's talking about Cam Newton four
two five. Wow. Sure loves himself some Cam.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
I mean the guy.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Look, I I'm not a Fashion East Okay, I would never,
you know, claim to be a Fashion EASTAF.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
I'll just come out and say it.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Cam Newton looks like a freaking when he goes on
TV with these idiotic costumes. The guy looks like he
should be working a fun park somewhere. I mean seriously, like,
what is he doing? I mean, dude, the guy just
goes on TV and puts the most outrageous outfits on
the air just so people can say, I saw Cam
Newton look like it. Would you let your son leave
the house looking like that? No, I'm come on, man,

(37:20):
what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (37:21):
You have dope.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Here's a question for you guys.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
God.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Out of eleven NFL seasons, how many times did Cam
Newton have a passer rating over ninety?

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Not a lot, by the way, I'd say two.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Yeah, I'd say zero anders correct. Two out of eleven yea.
His career passer rating is eighty five point two. Yeah
he was not a good quarterback, no, yeah, not a
good passers no, not at all.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
I mean he was a hell of a player when
he won the MVP. But in the end, man, he
just I don't know, man, the guy just bugs one
great ear. Yeah yeah, and to check your text by
the way, all right, that's it for us. We got you,
and we got Creighton from Nebraska where the Creighton Blue
Jays have decided to sell how many dollar beers? How
me won one dollar beers in the basketball game tonight?

(38:10):
You ever want to know what a drunk college basketball
crowd sounds like going after the opposing head coach, I
would tune into this particular broadcast tomorrow back of the
Emerald Queen Casino. Jason Stark's gonna join us, Petro's gonna
join us, Mike Florio gonna join us, Kevin Harlan gonna
join us as well, all from the Emeral Queen before
the Big Nikky Glazier Show from the Event Center tomorrow

(38:31):
at eight o'clock. That's it for us. We got Yukon,
we got Creighton. We got college basketball coming up next.
On ninety three to three KJRFM, so yeah,

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