January 8, 2025 • 37 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Kevin Harlan about the Seahawks making an OC change, Pete Carroll, Bill Belichick, and the NFL playoffs, then discuss the 2025 Seahawks QB situation before getting to some Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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a run, good block by Dobbins into the end zone. Touchdown,
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Speaker 5 (00:56):
Alrighty, boys and girls, here we go Wednesday afternoon at
five o'clock means one thing, and one thing only, a
chance to talk to the voice of the NFL in
this country. Back for another year in twoenty twenty five.
I hope Santam is good to him and his family,
and I hope he's missed us as much as we've
(01:17):
missed him. The voice of football and basketball in America
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Speaker 1 (01:27):
It's our friend, the legendary Kevin Hargan.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
How are you, new year? Nothing's changed with you, right?
You got the same enthusiasts, same kind comments. Thank you,
I missed you. Where have you been? Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Where have you been? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 6 (01:42):
I've been calling you every Wednesday. You didn't answer. Called
you Christmas Day you did answer. Called you New Year's Day,
you did answer. So no, it just shows you where
I sit on your priority list. Pow Well, we hope
you had a great, a great little holiday run there.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Man.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
A lot is going on in the NFL, and I
don't know, maybe we just start with your thoughts on
what happened up here in Seattle. You know, I know
you met with him for a Seahawk game. You did
earlier this year. But Ryan Grubb, the former Washington offensive coordinator,
fired after one year on the job in Seattle as
the play caller.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
How about that.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah, A little surprising, quite frankly when I saw it,
because I know there was a lot of optimism when
he went there. The team it started well, the numbers.
You know, the quarterback had had another very solid season.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
You know, you know more about it than I do.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I'm usually they're bringing someone like that, they give him
a chance to get acclimated. But whether it was who knows,
I mean, personality, conflict or just philosophies didn't mesh. Probably
a lot of everything. And now they're going to be
out looking. I do like the coach. I think he is.
I think they nailed that higher and I don't know that.
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I mean, what's your take on grub Why? Why didn't
it work?
Speaker 5 (03:03):
I just couldn't get the running game going, didn't score
enough points. I mean, I know it's simplistic, but in
the end, I think that's what it's all about. You know,
for whatever reason, these guys just were not on the
same page. And I got to tell you that, you know,
Ryan himself might be better off somewhere else in a
different system, and maybe going back to Alabama to work
with Kaitlin de Boor when the two of them had
their greatest success together at Washington. So we'll see. But yeah,
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I mean you win ten games. I think a lot
of people over the offseason would have thought that would
be a successful year one for McDonald. But yeah, you
win ten, you missed the playoffs?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Pretty stunning? I think ten is the number that everybody
shoots for. We did Cincinnati a couple of weeks ago.
They had to get to ten. Did the did the
Chargers last week? You just heard that call from that
game in Vegas? They got you know, they got up there.
They got eleven actually is where they went. No, it's
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it's surprising. Ten wins usually she gets you in, and
it didn't. You've added the extra game, so now it's
not sixteen, but it's it's seventeen games. And and that
changes the landscape a little bit. And it used to
be ten. Now I guess the magic numbers eleven.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, it might be wins to get in.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Look at green Bay. Green Bay is seventh seed and
they have eleven wins. So I guess that's the number
you got to get.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Well, we'll talk about the playoffs in a second.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
There's no need to do a where will Kevin b
for TV on Sunday because you're not doing TV this week,
and you get the Vikings Rams on radio on Monday,
and you know, I know the NFL is looking at
the fires happening right now and how that could impact
the game on Monday.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
But hopefully it'll all, you know, all work out.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
But let me ask you first of all about this
accusation that some people are throwing Kansas City's way. Because
you know the Chiefs franchise, you know the family, you
know the coach, the players pretty well. Do you think
there's a chance that they kicked that game against Denver
just to keep the Bengals out of the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
No, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
No, no no no, I mean no.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I do.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Because nobody wants to play the Bengals right now, man, nobody.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Well, no, of course, no one wants to. I wouldn't.
I would agree with that statement. Right. They're the most
dangerous team out there of maybe any team that is
still alive. They might be the most dangerous team.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
And they're not in.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
But it's too little, too late, you know that they didn't,
but they put together a great finish. The quarterback played
at an MVP level. If they had won a couple
more games. I don't know, he was almost perfect. I mean,
he had the kind of season that you would just
say any other year he would have done it. And
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I really think that Lamar Jackson might be the MVP
this year. But I do think that Josh Allen will
win it in Buffalo just because Lamar's won two already
and I think they like spread it around, just like
Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan could have won the MVP every
single season he was in the NBA, but one year
I think they gave it to Carl Malone and and
and when Jordan probably should have won it. The point
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is is that it's kind of hard to quantify what
are the things that feed into that that MVP thing.
But but if if if awards were ever to be given,
burrows season was as mighty and as strong and as
solid as any quarterback as Footballton that includes Allen and
Jackson is playing.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Great, would Burrow have your vote for the MVP?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Well, because the team did not win, I mean, and
it was not on him because because his numbers were there,
It's it would be a little bit outside thinking because
Alan would have matched him kind of stride for stride
as with Jackson. I mean, they're all three right there
and then and then, quite frankly, if the bottom line
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is winning, why wouldn't Pat Mahomes be in that conversation too?
They went, you know, they they won all fifteen games.
I mean, it's it's now. But his numbers don't even
compare to the other three. So when he have my
voterifire voting, no, I would probably vote for Jackson. Quite frankly, again, yeah,
I just I just think the way that that he
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has matured into the kind of quarterback he is as
an all around quarterback, and and the way he wins,
and I just I just still think he's the best
quarterback in football right now. But there's an argument for Burrow.
There's clearly an argument for Allen, who I do think
will win it. And I think there's an argument for
Mahomes even though his numbers don't match up. But he's
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won again and they're defending a title two in a row,
going for a third. Yeah, I mean it's it's I'll
never doubt Mahomes again. I if they need to win,
he's going to win. Now, Listen, he will have been off.
He's going to get healthy to get chet like that
in Denver, I don't care. You can't even try to
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lose and lose like that. It was a bit, but
Denver had everything to play for. I mean, that was
their playoff game and they came out with all their
starters and they did exactly what they needed to do.
Denver belongs in the playoffs, Yeah, no doubt. Do the
Seahawks belong in the playoffs? Ten win seasons alid quarterbacking?
(08:24):
There's an argument to be made there. Does Bro get
my vote? No? I go for Jackson.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Well, Kevin Harlan, who always has our vote, by the way,
is with us on the radio show Weekly Visit, brought
to you by our friends at the MRA Queen. So
before we talk about the games this weekend, and want
to get your thoughts on what you saw from the
Lions on Sunday night against Minnesota. You see the Bears
ask for permission to interview Mike McCarthy. The Cowboys have
his rights for like another week or so, so it
(08:49):
may be moot when it's all said and done, but apparently.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Tomorrow they're going to have a video interview or an
interview with Pete Carroll.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
How shocked would you be if the Bears brought Pete
Carroll back into the foul as the coach of the
Bears and coaching Kayla Williams.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Well, you know, at his age, I think it probably
would raise a few eyebrows, just because the trend in
the league is not to go for that age of coach.
It's the trend is now to go for younger coaches,
like you've got in Seattle, and like they've gotten Green
Bay and La with the Rams and all over the league,
Zach Taylor and Cincinnati. These are young coaches who get
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hired in the thirties and and and they've got the
long view in mind, and that would seem to be
the trend. But at the same time, we're kind of
seeing the same names being recycled to Ron riveras it
sounds like Pete did I see a cook? That that
a the Pete said, I'd really liked that job.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, I think he'd love the culture. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah. He's been very quiet this offseason. I really right.
I mean, I maybe from your perspective you've heard more
from him up there, but nationally, he's been very quiet.
There's not been a lot coming from his camp. He'd
be I think he'd be a great choice for two
three years, change the culture of that organization which needs
a culture change, get that quarterback ramped up. I think
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there'd be a lot of assistants that would go there
knowing that it would be on solid footing. It's an
incredible market, it's a historic franchise, they got the quarterback.
I think you know that there's a lot to like
about the Bears. I just I just think they did
not get the right coach in Iberflus clearly, and and
they need a culture change, and I think Pete Carroll
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would be an outstanding higher But you go in it's
saying we need someone to come in here, and it's
like when Bob Biger went back to Disney after he
kind of retired and left. They needed somebody who had
been around the block, knew everything was knew, or that
where the skeletons had skeletons and turn it around what
you did at ESPN and at Disney. And I think
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that's what Pete would do with Chicago. I think he
could go in there. I think he could turn around
the culture. And he knows it's not forever. I mean,
he's in his early seventies. And and you know he
knows that that that that window was closing, but he's
still I think has a lot left in the tank.
He'd be re energized. I think he'd be a terrific
higher for the Bears. And then on that staff you
(11:12):
bring on the air apparent, you bring the guy that
you're grooming to take over. But you got to get
a culture change, and they need a shock. They need
like a what what a defibrillator on the heart. They
got to they got to shock that heart back into rhythm.
And that's what the Bears need right now. And Pete
could do that.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Yeah, graphic, Well, Pete's Pete's going to be seventy four.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
My world is about graphic. My whole business is about
being graphic. That's what the business is.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I get it. I want you to tell you. I
want you to work telling you.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Work that word into your broadcast on Monday if if
the Rams are getting hammered or vice versa.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
Somebody got him a decipulator a week. Yeah, Pete's gonna
be get this heart starting. Pete's gonna be seventy four
in September. And then you saw the other story.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
You saw the other story Kevin, where Tom Rady apparently
is reaching out to Belichick about coaching the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Now, here's the deal. If he leaves.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
North Carolina after the first of June, he only owes
him a million bucks. That buyout goes from ten to
one after June first. His son's already on the staff,
and Dick and I were kind of just, you know,
half sarcastically kicking around the idea that maybe he put
that in there so we can hire his son Steve,
pay him a million bucks on June second, walk away,
give his kid the job, and just retire.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
I mean, how shocked would you be if Belichick never
coached a game at Chapel Hill and went back to
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well, nothing shocks me, nothing, nothing shocks me at all.
They need a quarterback in Las Vegas. The number on
six pick right now? Is that what they are? Six
to seven? Maybe the Raiders in the first round. They're
not going to get one there. But there is that
JJ McCarthy's story up in Minnesota with Darnold starring. There's
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a lot going on and nothing with me and anything,
nothing would surprise me, And uh, could I see them
getting together again. Absolutely with with Belichick. After all he's
doing at North Carolina and and and and the move
and everything else. But that it just seems like where
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that'd be a pretty severe left turn. But again, he's
done it before. He was given the Jemps job and uh,
and then and walked away from it. So there's a
little no, nothing, nothing would surprise me. And why is
that clause in there anyway? Right? Think of that now?
Why is that clause in that contract? Uh, that that
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the payout is only a million after June first? You
know that there's a there's a lot. I think there's
a lot left to be done with these jobs. You
mentioned Mike McCarthy moments ago with Dallas. I could see
him in Chicago too. That's his kind of town. He's
from Pittsburgh. I don't know that the way that the
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Cowboys are structured, with the eighty two year old owner
and his son making a lot of personnel decisions, I
don't know if that's the kind of environment that would
lead to winning football. The roster is not that good,
and I would if you took that store off that
helmet and put him out there in any other uniform.
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They look like a pretty mediocre team, and you're stuck
with the quarterback who's okay to good, but he's not great.
You don't put him with Burrow, you don't put him
with Jackson, you don't put him with Mahomes, you don't
put him in that Allen category. He's not with Stafford,
he's not golf, and yet you're paying him as much
as any quarterback in pro football and you're stuck with
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that contract. I don't know. There's a lot going on
in the league and a lot to be done, and
it's I think it's going to be a fascinating next month.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I really do, no no doubt.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Well, Kevin, before you go, you got vikings, Rams Radio Monday,
no no TV this weekend. But I don't know how
much of the Lion Viking game you saw. The Lions
looked phenomenal, just hammering Minnesota. Now they're getting Montgomery back
Kansas City. I'm looking at the Emerald Queen odds. Right now,
Kansas City is the favorite, followed by Baltimore. Detroit's excuse me,
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the Lions are the favorite, my fault, followed by Kansas City,
and then the Ravens in Buffalo are tied for the
third longest odd So they've got the Lions as the
team to beat to win the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Should they be the favorite?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Yes? Yeah, no. They got Amzeloni back on defense, that
was huge, and they they looked in the most important
game for the number one seed, which dictates a lot
of what the next month is going to look like.
They get to buy this week. No, I think that
is that is the correct call. Kansas City has not
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won a convincing game all season. They've won when they've
had to, and there's a beauty to that, and there
is a level of accomplishment in winning. Regardless of how
you do it, you win, but against a team like that,
you're gonna have to pull out some very special performances
and I don't know if Kansas City's got that. And listen,
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last year there were nine and six after Christmas. They
went on to win what six consecutive games, including a
trip to the Super Bowl and a victory there for
the second straight. They get a lot to play for.
They have history on their doorstep, and there's a very
good chance that we could see that Kansas City Detroit
matchup that a lot of people projected mid season, late
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season and even now as we begin the postseason, we
could easily see that in New Orleans on February ninth.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
You got a dark horse.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
I'll go on the record now and in case they
lose to Green Bay this weekend that I like Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I just can't get over Saquan and what he's done.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
But now that I've said that, they'll probably lose to
Green Bay over the weekend and be won and done,
what about you? Is there a dark horse this thing
that nobody's talking about that we should be talking about.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Well, I can't believe the Vikings looked as bad as
they did the other night, and that's indicative of what
they are. I would I would think that, and that
wouldn't be a dark horse because they won all those games.
So I don't I don't think putting Minnesota in that
category is right. I don't know if I believe in Buffalo,
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I don't know. It's uh. It clearly will be Baltimore,
Kansas City or Buffalo and the AFC. One of those
three teams will make it to New Orleans and then
and and they're all kind of alike with all great
quarterback and that's what Cincinnati thing would come into play
because they could easily upset any of those three teams.
But now that they're not in uh, we know the
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three teams in the AFC to watch the NFC Detroit clearly,
and then after that, that's that would be the dark
horse conversation. I don't think Green Bay. They just lost
their number one receiver, although they've played well and their
defense is and proved. Boy, I don't know it's I
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I don't know. I don't know if there's a dark horse.
I think I think it's Detroit, and I think they
run it in the NFC, and I think one of
those three teams in the AFC i'd like to have.
Here's a team to watch and and and they're coming
up strong. But I don't know that. I I don't
know that I see it right now, I quite frankly,
I just don't know. I haven't seen the weather. And
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by the way, going back to Philadelphia, you know, Hurts
being cleared to play will be the biggest story. If
he's not cleared to play, that's going to disrupt the
entire landscape of what the NFC is all about. Because
clearly Philadelphia should win that game and they should move on.
If they don't have hurts. I don't think they're gonna
win it. And if they don't, If they don't win it,
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that puts Green Bay one against Washington or Tampa Bay.
Is that they would play if they or or they
know they would go to Detroit, wouldn't they as a
seventh seed win there? He would play the Lions again?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yes, correct, Yeah, yeah, So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
We're that's a great thing about it. I just think
any of these teams are capable. But I like Detroit,
and I like the three teams in the AFC, and
I think they're all I think those three teams in
the AFC are all alike. I think they're all alike. Man,
who wins the Super Bowl? We're gonna leave that to
another conversation down the road.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, all right, we'll we'll see.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
What's gonna happen. Okay, let's let's see what happens this weekend.
Let's get out of this weekend.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
I was gonna say, we got a We got a
week next week before the Chiefs and Lions play, So
don't give away the farm yet, all right, man, great stuff.
Enjoy Monday Night with the Vikings and Rams. Stay safe
down there and we'll talk.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
On a week. Buddy, you got it?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Pay, I'll take care.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
You got it. Kevin Harlan with us on the radio show.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
You'll hear him calling the game for Westwood One pregame
four to thirty, kickoff at five o'clock on Monday. All right,
we're gonna break here a lot more to get to
on a busy Wednesday, right here on ninety three to
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Speaker 5 (20:06):
So contrary to popular opinion, we do discuss every now
and then what we're about to talk about on the
radio doesn't happen veryll.
Speaker 8 (20:16):
That was like the first time in like a month.
And how long did we spend three point seven seven?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Literally? Is the rejoin is playing? Because what do you
want to talk about? Do you want to hear? I
want to talk about Kirk Cousin.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I And he's.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Banging as he's like I want to talk about You're
like throwing a fit over there, man.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I want to talk about Kirk Cousins. I want my
candy bar.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
We had a big discussion yesterday on the radio show
about Geno Smith and the potential forty four and a
half million dollar cap number.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I guess.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
I mean, look, I know Janetti said the said otherwise.
Yesterday he says he thinks they'll carry it next year.
That's forty four and a half. I don't think that's
gonna happen. I would not be stunned, I guess, but
I'd be surprised, uh if it was forty four and
a half. But I gotta think they want to adjust
that number somehow someway, either with a brand new quarterback
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and getting him off the roster and saving a bunch
of money, or by restructuring his contract. I mean, can
you guys imagine the Seahawks carrying Gino Smith at forty
four and a half million next year? No, that would
be the least of the three options. The what are
the options?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Options?
Speaker 8 (21:24):
The options off?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yes, what are the options.
Speaker 8 (21:26):
We're gonna rip up this contract, Geno, and we're gonna
extend it out so we can extend the cap hit
over a couple of years.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
I ask you a question, when you say rip up
the contract, do you think John Schneider actually pulls Gino
into his office and goes.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
He just tears up the contract you're doing.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
That's there's forty four million?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
There are you doing? That's one option.
Speaker 8 (21:49):
Option number two is what Janitti said, and that's just say,
here you go, Gino, this is definitely your last year
in Seattle, but you're gonna get paid forty four point
five million dollars to.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Do it right.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
The option number three is Cyan R. Dude will pay
you thirteen million and kick you out the door.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
See.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
I just think, I don't know, man, maybe I'm missing something.
I think that's the most likely alternative to kick out
the door.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
Yes, I I For me, it's it's very close with
the Extension, very close, and I might be leaning towards
you because of the Ryan Grub firing. If you would
have asked me two days ago, prior to Ryan Grubb going,
I would have definitely leaned Extension.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
They brought him back.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
If they they're bringing him back, they want to bring
the whole crew back and try to do it again.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
Yeah, but since they fired Ryan Grubb, I'm almost leaning
towards your side. And if they're leaning towards your side,
then we have to talk about guys like Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Do you think there's anybody listening right now who just
said to themselves they fired Ryan Grubb like they had
no idea?
Speaker 8 (22:48):
Is there anybody can you text us play flew in from.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Ken They're just not paying attention. They got they got
a life, something happened. Whatever they've been, they've been distracted.
Please tell me there's somebody in the audience that literally
this second just heard out of Dick's bye.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Hole for the very first time. Ryan Grubb has been fired.
Four find that.
Speaker 8 (23:09):
So we did the poll yesterday, We did update on
the poll yesterday. But the finality of the poll on
GINO at forty five million.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
You want the uh thing here? Okay? And three to
two and one GENO for.
Speaker 8 (23:22):
Forty five or cousins and money to spend. And it
would be a lot of money to spend because it
was be cousins for a million plus Gino's cap hit
of thirteen million, so you'd have basically thirty extra million
dollars to spend. And it was not a landslide, but
it was clearly cousins and money to spend. Eleven hundred votes,
sixty four to thirty six Cousins and money to spend
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versus Gino. Now, a lot of responses came in as well,
and a lot of those responses was Cousins has washed.
Cousins has washed, Cousins has washed, which he may be washed,
he may be washed. But remember Cousins, he injured his
achilles in October of last year. I mean he was
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playing in September. He was playing eleven months after the
achilles injury. Aaron Rodgers injured his achilles before. Prior to that,
he started getting more mobile as the season went along.
Cousins wasn't given the opportunity to get more mobile as
the season went along because they said, forget this, we
want to go to the playoffs. We're starting. Michael Pennix,
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I'm wondering if another six months, seven months of Kirk
Cousins healing right will make Cousins at least a reasonable
facsimile of what he was two years ago, which was
a really good quarterback.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Yeah, put it on your questions for Hu Millin for
Friday at five. But I'm just looking at Kirk Cousins
numbers here, by the way, last year with Atlanta, and
then I want to just kind of compare. And look,
I know it's not all about numbers. Okay, I think
a got it. We falled often into a trap of
just comparing black and white numbers when we make all
these comparisons, and that, frankly, is.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Kind of dumb. But guess what I'm gonna do it
right now? Okay.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
So Gino Smith threw for forty three hundred yards, Kirk
Cousins threw for thirty five hundred. Gino had twenty one touchdowns,
Cousins at eighteen. Gino had fifteen picks. Cousin had sixteen.
Gino averaged seven point five yards per attempt. Kirk was
at seven point seven. Gino was at seventy percent. Kirk
was at sixty seven percent. The difference is Gino played
all seventeen games for the Seahawks this last year. Kirk
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Cousins played fourteen. The numbers were strikingly similar. Kirk Cousins
was horrible. So you're telling me that you would rather
have Geno Smith, who maybe is a scoch above Kirk Cousins.
I'll give you that, But you're willing to spend forty
three more million dollars on your salary cap to do it.
(25:48):
That just sounds kind of nuts to me. Like, I
didn't even think about this angled until Janetty came on
the air yesterday and then you brought up the Cousins thing.
And I'm not saying it's Cousins, maybe it's somebody else.
But guys, this is a lot of money, and there's
a lot of other quarterbacks out there for a lot
cheaper that might be able to give you the same
kind of thing that Gino gaves.
Speaker 9 (26:09):
How good was Justin Fields for Pittsburgh at the start
of the season, I mean, the multi dimensional aspect, Justin
Fields looked very good for Pittsburgh. Then why'd he get
bent because Russell Wilson is is he?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Listen?
Speaker 9 (26:20):
We've seen Russell Wilson take over and do pretty darn
well with Pittsburgh and lead them to a decent seed
in the playoff picture. I mean, I mean sure, still
he's led them to a decent seed and has them
in a shot again. I think Justin Fields is another
guy who would take a couple million bucks and give
you that option. Then he draft a third round guy
whatever and go out of it again.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
He definitely costs more than Cousins because Cousins is only
making the league men on him because he's under the
under coach. Look at what Cousins did prior to the
Achilles injury. Yeah, that season he had eighteen touchdowns and
five interceptions when he got injured. The year before he
had twenty nine and fourteen. The year before that he
had thirty three and seven. Well, Cousins was a better
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quarterback than Gino before he got injured and this year.
And I didn't even realize the numbers, Dave, You're exactly right,
as Cousins got hammered for how bad he was, look
at the numbers. He's barely worse than Gino this year.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
From a numbers perspective, right, But I don't Again, there's
a lot of other, you know, things there that you
got to look at.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I get that.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
I mean that's a great question for you when he
comes on the air on Friday. I just think that
if the money and the cap savings wasn't so significant,
yes it might not be a conversation. But the money
is absolutely unbelievably significant. I mean it's three or four
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starting caliber players, if not more than that, that you
could get for the money that you would save. And
I guess I would just ask you guys this, and look,
there's two things. Number one, do we think Kirk Cousins
is if he comes back and plays next show, he'd
be better or worse than he was this year? With
the with with the year and a half since the
Achilles by that time, I don't think, Okay, so everything's
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better or he's the same.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yes, okay, so he's not worse.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
And then number two, do you think the Seahawks would
Gino Smith are gonna go to a Super Bowl next year?
Do you think they're gonna go to the NFC Championship
Game next year?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Then why not make the move now and start to
rebuild your offensive line?
Speaker 8 (28:22):
Well?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And also the.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
Third part of that equation is, and I'm not saying
Gino's and wouldn't be a good uh would sen say
for the next guy?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Right?
Speaker 8 (28:35):
But I mean I couldn't think of a much better
guy than Kirk Cousins because Kirk Cousins and Gino Smith
are a little bit different positions in their career. Kirk
Cousins realizes that his career is essentially over. I don't
think he would be opposed to grooming the third whereas
Gino's like, man, I still got six seven years left.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I don't want to groom a dude. It's still a place.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
He's probably easier for cousins too, because they already did
it to him once in Atlanta with Michael Pennix, and
he might know where he stands.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
But I don't know, man. I mean, I just I.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Think it's absolutely worth talking about. I wonder if the
Seahawks are thinking about doing something like that. I just
don't know how in love they are with Gino Smith, right,
I mean, that's it, you know, end of story. I
mean McDonald gave kind of a you know, half whatever
answer the air days you.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Come back go. I guess he is.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
I mean, there wasn't like a bringing endorsement. But I
think it's totally worth talking about. The money is so stupid,
the savings is so ridiculous. And unless you believe that
Gino Smith can go back to being the guy who
was in the first half of twenty twenty three two
two two, twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Two a while ago, it is a while ago.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
It's it's gonna be even more of a while ago
in September when the season actually starts up.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
It's now time for sfty In Diggs. Fun with audio.
Speaker 10 (29:50):
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Now let's have some fun with audio. All right, here
we go normally at three forty five. But Dan Bowsma,
the coach of the Kraken, it was with us. If
you missed it, here it again, coming up in the
six pm hour. Wink wink, don't tell anybody we rack.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
It's a good lead into Benton's cracking weekly.
Speaker 8 (30:11):
See Jackson try to change the subject sign of a
vat time again?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, good audio here, let's go all right, here we
go a little fun with audio. Slash hat Did you
hear that? Adic? Did you happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Fourteen years ago today? How about this?
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Martshawn Lynch delivered the most famous run in Seahawk history
and maybe the most famous run in NFL history. Is
there a more famous run than beast Quake? I mean,
the Immaculate Reception was not a run. It was frank
Oherris fumble.
Speaker 8 (30:39):
Well, I know there's no way that there's been a
run that has been more played correct in the last
fifteen years than that.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
But like, what would be number two? Think about that
for a second.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Anyway, last year we played the Saints' English radio call
of the Beast quake. So this year again from New Orleans,
let's hear the Spanish radio call of the beast quake
run from fourteen years ago.
Speaker 11 (31:05):
Yeah, the fascist says, he's that. Cupo says Cupo. I
can't wipe said he.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
The people Telena say, yeah, the other beef. Are you
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sure that wasn't from like the World Cup or something.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
It was weird. It was like, here's the announcer. Do
you know who the announcer? I looked for like a
good half hour. I couldn't find their names.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
It was kind of a anti climatic.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Really, because it's in Spanish. Spanish is the awaiting? They
clearly weren't jacked up. Oh you waited? I got I
want to hear like the Hebrew radio call of that
touch down? All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to
(32:11):
hear that? What's that?
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Dick?
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Out a press conference yesterday, Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert said
that his head coach, Jim Harbaugh, has memories going all
the way back to the day he was born.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Was the first time Jim said where you were, like.
This guy's definitely different.
Speaker 12 (32:27):
I think when he talked about remembering the day that
he was born was probably the first day that he
kind of told us the whole story and how he
remembered looking out the window, and I think it was
a cold, snowy day. And I really hope he doesn't
remember that.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
That'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
God, are you always get on me for remembering things?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I really just think it's crazy, it's unique. I don't
have any idea, but.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
I don't remember anything prior to like four and a half.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You remember entering the world. No, I think that's that's
not real. Jim Harbor's flat out line. He's a liar.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
He he may have some thought in his head that
he's had for a long time about the day he
was born, and now it just becomes what he thinks
is a memory. Like I think about this stuff all
the time, guys, about how you can manipulate your own
mind into actually believing something well or forgetting something like
is it possible that the three of us, one of
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us has done something horrific and we just forgot.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
There's a word for that. There's a psychological word for that.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Yeah, ask your Wifeyah know, Jackson actually committed some heinous
crime back in the day, but he's convinced himself it
never happened, and now he's just forgotten it.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
It's not gone now.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
I knew, like when the Seahawks won the Super Bowl,
I knew there was no chance Auby remember it. She
was like two, but Dixon was almost five. And I'm like,
does he remember it? And I told him on that
I go, I want you to remember all of this,
remember what we're doing. I took him outside he heard
the fireworks. I like, remember these fires like I wanted
to remember it, And yes he does. I've asked him
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numerous times. Says He's like, I go, okay, fine, what
did we do? Where did we watch the game?
Speaker 5 (34:01):
And he can he can wrap it, you know, a
great way to get the kids to remember stuff like that.
I'll just record it. Take out your cell phone.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
It's like gallant slighting yourself, lighting yourself, dude.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
I just I'm just I think there's a lot of
people walking around that have done some pretty crazy stuff
and they've just convinced themself, like does O. J. Simpson
is dead now? But when he was alive, did he
actually convince himself I did not kill anybody that was
not me, that was somebody else. Yes, I think he does,
and he believes he's innocent.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Maybe he is in is it? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
I don't think he is self gas lighting. Okay, self,
stop self gas lighting. Jackson, admit to your hainus crimes.
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 1 (34:42):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Dick?
Speaker 5 (34:44):
With thirty six seconds left and Sunday's Buccaneers whenever the Saints,
Mike Evans needs five yards to hit a thousand for
the year and trigger a three million dollar contract bonus.
Head coach Todd Bowles could have called a kneel down,
but instead called a pass that resulted in an eight
yard grab for Evans so he could get the bonus.
At a press conference yesterday, Bulls was asked about the
play call to try to get Evans the extra three
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million dollars.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
The risk you took to get Mike the record.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Was was a heart beating a little fast in that
situation for you knowing that what was all at stake there, No.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I was just hoping it was complete. And you know,
I think Mike owes me a million dollars.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
See, the difference is they made the playoffs, so it's
like easier to stomach, right right.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
But I like, if that ball goes off of Mike
Evans arms, pops into the air and it's taken to
the house, Michael Pennix and the Falcons are going to
the playoffs. I mean, was that the situation they had
to the Saints won, then yes? What was this because
at the time that Falcons hadn't lost yet.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Gone overtime was gone over time, gotcha?
Speaker 8 (35:47):
Got so at the time, Sama Bay did not know
they were going to the super Bowl. They were did
not go they were going to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
That's ballsy.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
That is ballsy, very ballsy, and actually kind of ridiculous,
to be honest, How piss would you be your coach.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
If that happened? How the GM?
Speaker 9 (36:03):
The GM says, Todd, you just cost me three million
bucks next year.
Speaker 8 (36:08):
And to that end, have you ever heard any other
NFL season where there's been more talk about bonuses and incentives,
like like, what's this Kenny Albert who did the Seahawks game?
How many times did he bring up Gino's bonus?
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Nothing else to talk about? By the way, people are
reminding us, and they're exactly right. Bo Jackson running over
Brian Bosworth on My Night Football and running into the
Millan just texted and Marcus Allen against the Redskins and
circling back.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
So there's been a few, certainly in the twenty thirty years.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
It's got to be beast quakes. Got to be number one.
Let's do one more here, Okay, one more?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
He dick?
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 4 (36:44):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Yesterday on First Take, Steven day Smith sharing his thoughts
on the term black Monday after the Patriots fired girod
Mayo and are reportedly looking to hire Mike Vrabel.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
That's what this is about. This is about Mike Rabel.
Speaker 10 (36:56):
That's who they wanted, no question about it, and he's
the most He's a more experienced coach. I don't like this.
They called it black Friday for you know, black Monday,
rather for a reason, uh desertly to a posit I
don't know why it's not called white Monday. Doug Bill,
Doug Peterson.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Got fired from Jacksonville. He deserved that.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Firate H.
Speaker 10 (37:13):
Jerrame clearly was not given an opportunity or linkedy enough
opportunity considering how Bill what Bill Belichick left him with.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
From a talent perspective, I see, I think he's trying
to be funny. I mean, I don't know, did you
think that when you heard that?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I don't get that at all.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
I didn't think he's trying to be funny.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
You think he's actually pissed at they call black Fridays.
I don't know about pissed, but bothered. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Well, I mean then if you have a guy that's
got bad skin called pimple Friday and whatever, I mean, black,
black Monday, black Friday. I mean it's black Monday because
that's coaches get fired and black and dark darkness, right,
I mean, it's not like you know, light Monday.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
It's black Monday.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
That come on.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
That doesn't boy, that doesn't bother him. He's trying to
be funny.
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Speaker 5 (00:56):
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Speaker 1 (01:27):
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Speaker 4 (01:30):
How are you, new year? Nothing's changed with you, right?
You got the same enthusiasts, same kind comments. Thank you,
I missed you. Where have you been? Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Where have you been? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 6 (01:42):
I've been calling you every Wednesday. You didn't answer. Called
you Christmas Day you did answer. Called you New Year's Day,
you did answer. So no, it just shows you where
I sit on your priority list. Pow Well, we hope
you had a great, a great little holiday run there.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Man.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
A lot is going on in the NFL, and I
don't know, maybe we just start with your thoughts on
what happened up here in Seattle. You know, I know
you met with him for a Seahawk game. You did
earlier this year. But Ryan Grubb, the former Washington offensive coordinator,
fired after one year on the job in Seattle as
the play caller.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
How about that.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah, A little surprising, quite frankly when I saw it,
because I know there was a lot of optimism when
he went there. The team it started well, the numbers.
You know, the quarterback had had another very solid season.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
You know, you know more about it than I do.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I'm usually they're bringing someone like that, they give him
a chance to get acclimated. But whether it was who knows,
I mean, personality, conflict or just philosophies didn't mesh. Probably
a lot of everything. And now they're going to be
out looking. I do like the coach. I think he is.
I think they nailed that higher and I don't know that.
(02:59):
I mean, what's your take on grub Why? Why didn't
it work?
Speaker 5 (03:03):
I just couldn't get the running game going, didn't score
enough points. I mean, I know it's simplistic, but in
the end, I think that's what it's all about. You know,
for whatever reason, these guys just were not on the
same page. And I got to tell you that, you know,
Ryan himself might be better off somewhere else in a
different system, and maybe going back to Alabama to work
with Kaitlin de Boor when the two of them had
their greatest success together at Washington. So we'll see. But yeah,
(03:27):
I mean you win ten games. I think a lot
of people over the offseason would have thought that would
be a successful year one for McDonald. But yeah, you
win ten, you missed the playoffs?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Pretty stunning? I think ten is the number that everybody
shoots for. We did Cincinnati a couple of weeks ago.
They had to get to ten. Did the did the
Chargers last week? You just heard that call from that
game in Vegas? They got you know, they got up there.
They got eleven actually is where they went. No, it's
(03:57):
it's surprising. Ten wins usually she gets you in, and
it didn't. You've added the extra game, so now it's
not sixteen, but it's it's seventeen games. And and that
changes the landscape a little bit. And it used to
be ten. Now I guess the magic numbers eleven.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, it might be wins to get in.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Look at green Bay. Green Bay is seventh seed and
they have eleven wins. So I guess that's the number
you got to get.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Well, we'll talk about the playoffs in a second.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
There's no need to do a where will Kevin b
for TV on Sunday because you're not doing TV this week,
and you get the Vikings Rams on radio on Monday,
and you know, I know the NFL is looking at
the fires happening right now and how that could impact
the game on Monday.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
But hopefully it'll all, you know, all work out.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
But let me ask you first of all about this
accusation that some people are throwing Kansas City's way. Because
you know the Chiefs franchise, you know the family, you
know the coach, the players pretty well. Do you think
there's a chance that they kicked that game against Denver
just to keep the Bengals out of the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
No, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
No, no no no, I mean no.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I do.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Because nobody wants to play the Bengals right now, man, nobody.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Well, no, of course, no one wants to. I wouldn't.
I would agree with that statement. Right. They're the most
dangerous team out there of maybe any team that is
still alive. They might be the most dangerous team.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
And they're not in.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
But it's too little, too late, you know that they didn't,
but they put together a great finish. The quarterback played
at an MVP level. If they had won a couple
more games. I don't know, he was almost perfect. I mean,
he had the kind of season that you would just
say any other year he would have done it. And
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I really think that Lamar Jackson might be the MVP
this year. But I do think that Josh Allen will
win it in Buffalo just because Lamar's won two already
and I think they like spread it around, just like
Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan could have won the MVP every
single season he was in the NBA, but one year
I think they gave it to Carl Malone and and
and when Jordan probably should have won it. The point
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is is that it's kind of hard to quantify what
are the things that feed into that that MVP thing.
But but if if if awards were ever to be given,
burrows season was as mighty and as strong and as
solid as any quarterback as Footballton that includes Allen and
Jackson is playing.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Great, would Burrow have your vote for the MVP?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Well, because the team did not win, I mean, and
it was not on him because because his numbers were there,
It's it would be a little bit outside thinking because
Alan would have matched him kind of stride for stride
as with Jackson. I mean, they're all three right there
and then and then, quite frankly, if the bottom line
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is winning, why wouldn't Pat Mahomes be in that conversation too?
They went, you know, they they won all fifteen games.
I mean, it's it's now. But his numbers don't even
compare to the other three. So when he have my
voterifire voting, no, I would probably vote for Jackson. Quite frankly, again, yeah,
I just I just think the way that that he
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has matured into the kind of quarterback he is as
an all around quarterback, and and the way he wins,
and I just I just still think he's the best
quarterback in football right now. But there's an argument for Burrow.
There's clearly an argument for Allen, who I do think
will win it. And I think there's an argument for
Mahomes even though his numbers don't match up. But he's
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won again and they're defending a title two in a row,
going for a third. Yeah, I mean it's it's I'll
never doubt Mahomes again. I if they need to win,
he's going to win. Now, Listen, he will have been off.
He's going to get healthy to get chet like that
in Denver, I don't care. You can't even try to
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lose and lose like that. It was a bit, but
Denver had everything to play for. I mean, that was
their playoff game and they came out with all their
starters and they did exactly what they needed to do.
Denver belongs in the playoffs, Yeah, no doubt. Do the
Seahawks belong in the playoffs? Ten win seasons alid quarterbacking?
(08:24):
There's an argument to be made there. Does Bro get
my vote? No? I go for Jackson.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Well, Kevin Harlan, who always has our vote, by the way,
is with us on the radio show Weekly Visit, brought
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before we talk about the games this weekend, and want
to get your thoughts on what you saw from the
Lions on Sunday night against Minnesota. You see the Bears
ask for permission to interview Mike McCarthy. The Cowboys have
his rights for like another week or so, so it
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may be moot when it's all said and done, but apparently.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Tomorrow they're going to have a video interview or an
interview with Pete Carroll.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
How shocked would you be if the Bears brought Pete
Carroll back into the foul as the coach of the
Bears and coaching Kayla Williams.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Well, you know, at his age, I think it probably
would raise a few eyebrows, just because the trend in
the league is not to go for that age of coach.
It's the trend is now to go for younger coaches,
like you've got in Seattle, and like they've gotten Green
Bay and La with the Rams and all over the league,
Zach Taylor and Cincinnati. These are young coaches who get
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hired in the thirties and and and they've got the
long view in mind, and that would seem to be
the trend. But at the same time, we're kind of
seeing the same names being recycled to Ron riveras it
sounds like Pete did I see a cook? That that
a the Pete said, I'd really liked that job.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, I think he'd love the culture. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yeah. He's been very quiet this offseason. I really right.
I mean, I maybe from your perspective you've heard more
from him up there, but nationally, he's been very quiet.
There's not been a lot coming from his camp. He'd
be I think he'd be a great choice for two
three years, change the culture of that organization which needs
a culture change, get that quarterback ramped up. I think
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there'd be a lot of assistants that would go there
knowing that it would be on solid footing. It's an
incredible market, it's a historic franchise, they got the quarterback.
I think you know that there's a lot to like
about the Bears. I just I just think they did
not get the right coach in Iberflus clearly, and and
they need a culture change, and I think Pete Carroll
(10:29):
would be an outstanding higher But you go in it's
saying we need someone to come in here, and it's
like when Bob Biger went back to Disney after he
kind of retired and left. They needed somebody who had
been around the block, knew everything was knew, or that
where the skeletons had skeletons and turn it around what
you did at ESPN and at Disney. And I think
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that's what Pete would do with Chicago. I think he
could go in there. I think he could turn around
the culture. And he knows it's not forever. I mean,
he's in his early seventies. And and you know he
knows that that that that window was closing, but he's
still I think has a lot left in the tank.
He'd be re energized. I think he'd be a terrific
higher for the Bears. And then on that staff you
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bring on the air apparent, you bring the guy that
you're grooming to take over. But you got to get
a culture change, and they need a shock. They need
like a what what a defibrillator on the heart. They
got to they got to shock that heart back into rhythm.
And that's what the Bears need right now. And Pete
could do that.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Yeah, graphic, Well, Pete's Pete's going to be seventy four.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
My world is about graphic. My whole business is about
being graphic. That's what the business is.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I get it. I want you to tell you. I
want you to work telling you.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Work that word into your broadcast on Monday if if
the Rams are getting hammered or vice versa.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
Somebody got him a decipulator a week. Yeah, Pete's gonna
be get this heart starting. Pete's gonna be seventy four
in September. And then you saw the other story.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
You saw the other story Kevin, where Tom Rady apparently
is reaching out to Belichick about coaching the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Now, here's the deal. If he leaves.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
North Carolina after the first of June, he only owes
him a million bucks. That buyout goes from ten to
one after June first. His son's already on the staff,
and Dick and I were kind of just, you know,
half sarcastically kicking around the idea that maybe he put
that in there so we can hire his son Steve,
pay him a million bucks on June second, walk away,
give his kid the job, and just retire.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
I mean, how shocked would you be if Belichick never
coached a game at Chapel Hill and went back to
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well, nothing shocks me, nothing, nothing shocks me at all.
They need a quarterback in Las Vegas. The number on
six pick right now? Is that what they are? Six
to seven? Maybe the Raiders in the first round. They're
not going to get one there. But there is that
JJ McCarthy's story up in Minnesota with Darnold starring. There's
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a lot going on and nothing with me and anything,
nothing would surprise me, And uh, could I see them
getting together again. Absolutely with with Belichick. After all he's
doing at North Carolina and and and and the move
and everything else. But that it just seems like where
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that'd be a pretty severe left turn. But again, he's
done it before. He was given the Jemps job and uh,
and then and walked away from it. So there's a
little no, nothing, nothing would surprise me. And why is
that clause in there anyway? Right? Think of that now?
Why is that clause in that contract? Uh, that that
(13:41):
the payout is only a million after June first? You
know that there's a there's a lot. I think there's
a lot left to be done with these jobs. You
mentioned Mike McCarthy moments ago with Dallas. I could see
him in Chicago too. That's his kind of town. He's
from Pittsburgh. I don't know that the way that the
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Cowboys are structured, with the eighty two year old owner
and his son making a lot of personnel decisions, I
don't know if that's the kind of environment that would
lead to winning football. The roster is not that good,
and I would if you took that store off that
helmet and put him out there in any other uniform.
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They look like a pretty mediocre team, and you're stuck
with the quarterback who's okay to good, but he's not great.
You don't put him with Burrow, you don't put him
with Jackson, you don't put him with Mahomes, you don't
put him in that Allen category. He's not with Stafford,
he's not golf, and yet you're paying him as much
as any quarterback in pro football and you're stuck with
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that contract. I don't know. There's a lot going on
in the league and a lot to be done, and
it's I think it's going to be a fascinating next month.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I really do, no no doubt.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Well, Kevin, before you go, you got vikings, Rams Radio Monday,
no no TV this weekend. But I don't know how
much of the Lion Viking game you saw. The Lions
looked phenomenal, just hammering Minnesota. Now they're getting Montgomery back
Kansas City. I'm looking at the Emerald Queen odds. Right now,
Kansas City is the favorite, followed by Baltimore. Detroit's excuse me,
(15:18):
the Lions are the favorite, my fault, followed by Kansas City,
and then the Ravens in Buffalo are tied for the
third longest odd So they've got the Lions as the
team to beat to win the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Should they be the favorite?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Yes? Yeah, no. They got Amzeloni back on defense, that
was huge, and they they looked in the most important
game for the number one seed, which dictates a lot
of what the next month is going to look like.
They get to buy this week. No, I think that
is that is the correct call. Kansas City has not
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won a convincing game all season. They've won when they've
had to, and there's a beauty to that, and there
is a level of accomplishment in winning. Regardless of how
you do it, you win, but against a team like that,
you're gonna have to pull out some very special performances
and I don't know if Kansas City's got that. And listen,
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last year there were nine and six after Christmas. They
went on to win what six consecutive games, including a
trip to the Super Bowl and a victory there for
the second straight. They get a lot to play for.
They have history on their doorstep, and there's a very
good chance that we could see that Kansas City Detroit
matchup that a lot of people projected mid season, late
(16:37):
season and even now as we begin the postseason, we
could easily see that in New Orleans on February ninth.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
You got a dark horse.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
I'll go on the record now and in case they
lose to Green Bay this weekend that I like Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I just can't get over Saquan and what he's done.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
But now that I've said that, they'll probably lose to
Green Bay over the weekend and be won and done,
what about you? Is there a dark horse this thing
that nobody's talking about that we should be talking about.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Well, I can't believe the Vikings looked as bad as
they did the other night, and that's indicative of what
they are. I would I would think that, and that
wouldn't be a dark horse because they won all those games.
So I don't I don't think putting Minnesota in that
category is right. I don't know if I believe in Buffalo,
(17:25):
I don't know. It's uh. It clearly will be Baltimore,
Kansas City or Buffalo and the AFC. One of those
three teams will make it to New Orleans and then
and and they're all kind of alike with all great
quarterback and that's what Cincinnati thing would come into play
because they could easily upset any of those three teams.
But now that they're not in uh, we know the
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three teams in the AFC to watch the NFC Detroit clearly,
and then after that, that's that would be the dark
horse conversation. I don't think Green Bay. They just lost
their number one receiver, although they've played well and their
defense is and proved. Boy, I don't know it's I
(18:08):
I don't know. I don't know if there's a dark horse.
I think I think it's Detroit, and I think they
run it in the NFC, and I think one of
those three teams in the AFC i'd like to have.
Here's a team to watch and and and they're coming
up strong. But I don't know that. I I don't
know that I see it right now, I quite frankly,
I just don't know. I haven't seen the weather. And
(18:28):
by the way, going back to Philadelphia, you know, Hurts
being cleared to play will be the biggest story. If
he's not cleared to play, that's going to disrupt the
entire landscape of what the NFC is all about. Because
clearly Philadelphia should win that game and they should move on.
If they don't have hurts. I don't think they're gonna
win it. And if they don't, If they don't win it,
(18:49):
that puts Green Bay one against Washington or Tampa Bay.
Is that they would play if they or or they
know they would go to Detroit, wouldn't they as a
seventh seed win there? He would play the Lions again?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yes, correct, Yeah, yeah, So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
We're that's a great thing about it. I just think
any of these teams are capable. But I like Detroit,
and I like the three teams in the AFC, and
I think they're all I think those three teams in
the AFC are all alike. I think they're all alike. Man,
who wins the Super Bowl? We're gonna leave that to
another conversation down the road.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, all right, we'll we'll see.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
What's gonna happen. Okay, let's let's see what happens this weekend.
Let's get out of this weekend.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
I was gonna say, we got a We got a
week next week before the Chiefs and Lions play, So
don't give away the farm yet, all right, man, great stuff.
Enjoy Monday Night with the Vikings and Rams. Stay safe
down there and we'll talk.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
On a week. Buddy, you got it?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Pay, I'll take care.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
You got it. Kevin Harlan with us on the radio show.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
You'll hear him calling the game for Westwood One pregame
four to thirty, kickoff at five o'clock on Monday. All right,
we're gonna break here a lot more to get to
on a busy Wednesday, right here on ninety three to
three KJRF.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
MU from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Sofie and Dick on your for the
Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point three
kJ r FM.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
So contrary to popular opinion, we do discuss every now
and then what we're about to talk about on the
radio doesn't happen veryll.
Speaker 8 (20:16):
That was like the first time in like a month.
And how long did we spend three point seven seven?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Literally? Is the rejoin is playing? Because what do you
want to talk about? Do you want to hear? I
want to talk about Kirk Cousin.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I And he's.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Banging as he's like I want to talk about You're
like throwing a fit over there, man.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I want to talk about Kirk Cousins. I want my
candy bar.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
We had a big discussion yesterday on the radio show
about Geno Smith and the potential forty four and a
half million dollar cap number.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I guess.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
I mean, look, I know Janetti said the said otherwise.
Yesterday he says he thinks they'll carry it next year.
That's forty four and a half. I don't think that's
gonna happen. I would not be stunned, I guess, but
I'd be surprised, uh if it was forty four and
a half. But I gotta think they want to adjust
that number somehow someway, either with a brand new quarterback
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and getting him off the roster and saving a bunch
of money, or by restructuring his contract. I mean, can
you guys imagine the Seahawks carrying Gino Smith at forty
four and a half million next year? No, that would
be the least of the three options. The what are
the options?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Options?
Speaker 8 (21:24):
The options off?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yes, what are the options.
Speaker 8 (21:26):
We're gonna rip up this contract, Geno, and we're gonna
extend it out so we can extend the cap hit
over a couple of years.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
I ask you a question, when you say rip up
the contract, do you think John Schneider actually pulls Gino
into his office and goes.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
He just tears up the contract you're doing.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
That's there's forty four million?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
There are you doing? That's one option.
Speaker 8 (21:49):
Option number two is what Janitti said, and that's just say,
here you go, Gino, this is definitely your last year
in Seattle, but you're gonna get paid forty four point
five million dollars to.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Do it right.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
The option number three is Cyan R. Dude will pay
you thirteen million and kick you out the door.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
See.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
I just think, I don't know, man, maybe I'm missing something.
I think that's the most likely alternative to kick out
the door.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
Yes, I I For me, it's it's very close with
the Extension, very close, and I might be leaning towards
you because of the Ryan Grub firing. If you would
have asked me two days ago, prior to Ryan Grubb going,
I would have definitely leaned Extension.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
They brought him back.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
If they they're bringing him back, they want to bring
the whole crew back and try to do it again.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
Yeah, but since they fired Ryan Grubb, I'm almost leaning
towards your side. And if they're leaning towards your side,
then we have to talk about guys like Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Do you think there's anybody listening right now who just
said to themselves they fired Ryan Grubb like they had
no idea?
Speaker 8 (22:48):
Is there anybody can you text us play flew in from.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Ken They're just not paying attention. They got they got
a life, something happened. Whatever they've been, they've been distracted.
Please tell me there's somebody in the audience that literally
this second just heard out of Dick's bye.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Hole for the very first time. Ryan Grubb has been fired.
Four find that.
Speaker 8 (23:09):
So we did the poll yesterday, We did update on
the poll yesterday. But the finality of the poll on
GINO at forty five million.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
You want the uh thing here? Okay? And three to
two and one GENO for.
Speaker 8 (23:22):
Forty five or cousins and money to spend. And it
would be a lot of money to spend because it
was be cousins for a million plus Gino's cap hit
of thirteen million, so you'd have basically thirty extra million
dollars to spend. And it was not a landslide, but
it was clearly cousins and money to spend. Eleven hundred votes,
sixty four to thirty six Cousins and money to spend
(23:44):
versus Gino. Now, a lot of responses came in as well,
and a lot of those responses was Cousins has washed.
Cousins has washed, Cousins has washed, which he may be washed,
he may be washed. But remember Cousins, he injured his
achilles in October of last year. I mean he was
(24:07):
playing in September. He was playing eleven months after the
achilles injury. Aaron Rodgers injured his achilles before. Prior to that,
he started getting more mobile as the season went along.
Cousins wasn't given the opportunity to get more mobile as
the season went along because they said, forget this, we
want to go to the playoffs. We're starting. Michael Pennix,
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I'm wondering if another six months, seven months of Kirk
Cousins healing right will make Cousins at least a reasonable
facsimile of what he was two years ago, which was
a really good quarterback.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Yeah, put it on your questions for Hu Millin for
Friday at five. But I'm just looking at Kirk Cousins
numbers here, by the way, last year with Atlanta, and
then I want to just kind of compare. And look,
I know it's not all about numbers. Okay, I think
a got it. We falled often into a trap of
just comparing black and white numbers when we make all
these comparisons, and that, frankly, is.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Kind of dumb. But guess what I'm gonna do it
right now? Okay.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
So Gino Smith threw for forty three hundred yards, Kirk
Cousins threw for thirty five hundred. Gino had twenty one touchdowns,
Cousins at eighteen. Gino had fifteen picks. Cousin had sixteen.
Gino averaged seven point five yards per attempt. Kirk was
at seven point seven. Gino was at seventy percent. Kirk
was at sixty seven percent. The difference is Gino played
all seventeen games for the Seahawks this last year. Kirk
(25:27):
Cousins played fourteen. The numbers were strikingly similar. Kirk Cousins
was horrible. So you're telling me that you would rather
have Geno Smith, who maybe is a scoch above Kirk Cousins.
I'll give you that, But you're willing to spend forty
three more million dollars on your salary cap to do it.
(25:48):
That just sounds kind of nuts to me. Like, I
didn't even think about this angled until Janetty came on
the air yesterday and then you brought up the Cousins thing.
And I'm not saying it's Cousins, maybe it's somebody else.
But guys, this is a lot of money, and there's
a lot of other quarterbacks out there for a lot
cheaper that might be able to give you the same
kind of thing that Gino gaves.
Speaker 9 (26:09):
How good was Justin Fields for Pittsburgh at the start
of the season, I mean, the multi dimensional aspect, Justin
Fields looked very good for Pittsburgh. Then why'd he get
bent because Russell Wilson is is he?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Listen?
Speaker 9 (26:20):
We've seen Russell Wilson take over and do pretty darn
well with Pittsburgh and lead them to a decent seed
in the playoff picture. I mean, I mean sure, still
he's led them to a decent seed and has them
in a shot again. I think Justin Fields is another
guy who would take a couple million bucks and give
you that option. Then he draft a third round guy
whatever and go out of it again.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
He definitely costs more than Cousins because Cousins is only
making the league men on him because he's under the
under coach. Look at what Cousins did prior to the
Achilles injury. Yeah, that season he had eighteen touchdowns and
five interceptions when he got injured. The year before he
had twenty nine and fourteen. The year before that he
had thirty three and seven. Well, Cousins was a better
(27:03):
quarterback than Gino before he got injured and this year.
And I didn't even realize the numbers, Dave, You're exactly right,
as Cousins got hammered for how bad he was, look
at the numbers. He's barely worse than Gino this year.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
From a numbers perspective, right, But I don't Again, there's
a lot of other, you know, things there that you
got to look at.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I get that.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
I mean that's a great question for you when he
comes on the air on Friday. I just think that
if the money and the cap savings wasn't so significant,
yes it might not be a conversation. But the money
is absolutely unbelievably significant. I mean it's three or four
(27:45):
starting caliber players, if not more than that, that you
could get for the money that you would save. And
I guess I would just ask you guys this, and look,
there's two things. Number one, do we think Kirk Cousins
is if he comes back and plays next show, he'd
be better or worse than he was this year? With
the with with the year and a half since the
Achilles by that time, I don't think, Okay, so everything's
(28:06):
better or he's the same.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yes, okay, so he's not worse.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
And then number two, do you think the Seahawks would
Gino Smith are gonna go to a Super Bowl next year?
Do you think they're gonna go to the NFC Championship
Game next year?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Then why not make the move now and start to
rebuild your offensive line?
Speaker 8 (28:22):
Well?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And also the.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
Third part of that equation is, and I'm not saying
Gino's and wouldn't be a good uh would sen say
for the next guy?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Right?
Speaker 8 (28:35):
But I mean I couldn't think of a much better
guy than Kirk Cousins because Kirk Cousins and Gino Smith
are a little bit different positions in their career. Kirk
Cousins realizes that his career is essentially over. I don't
think he would be opposed to grooming the third whereas
Gino's like, man, I still got six seven years left.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I don't want to groom a dude. It's still a place.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
He's probably easier for cousins too, because they already did
it to him once in Atlanta with Michael Pennix, and
he might know where he stands.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
But I don't know, man. I mean, I just I.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Think it's absolutely worth talking about. I wonder if the
Seahawks are thinking about doing something like that. I just
don't know how in love they are with Gino Smith, right,
I mean, that's it, you know, end of story. I
mean McDonald gave kind of a you know, half whatever
answer the air days you.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Come back go. I guess he is.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
I mean, there wasn't like a bringing endorsement. But I
think it's totally worth talking about. The money is so stupid,
the savings is so ridiculous. And unless you believe that
Gino Smith can go back to being the guy who
was in the first half of twenty twenty three two
two two, twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Two a while ago, it is a while ago.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
It's it's gonna be even more of a while ago
in September when the season actually starts up.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
It's now time for sfty In Diggs. Fun with audio.
Speaker 10 (29:50):
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Now let's have some fun with audio. All right, here
we go normally at three forty five. But Dan Bowsma,
the coach of the Kraken, it was with us. If
you missed it, here it again, coming up in the
six pm hour. Wink wink, don't tell anybody we rack.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
It's a good lead into Benton's cracking weekly.
Speaker 8 (30:11):
See Jackson try to change the subject sign of a
vat time again?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, good audio here, let's go all right, here we
go a little fun with audio. Slash hat Did you
hear that? Adic? Did you happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Fourteen years ago today? How about this?
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Martshawn Lynch delivered the most famous run in Seahawk history
and maybe the most famous run in NFL history. Is
there a more famous run than beast Quake? I mean,
the Immaculate Reception was not a run. It was frank
Oherris fumble.
Speaker 8 (30:39):
Well, I know there's no way that there's been a
run that has been more played correct in the last
fifteen years than that.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
But like, what would be number two? Think about that
for a second.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Anyway, last year we played the Saints' English radio call
of the Beast quake. So this year again from New Orleans,
let's hear the Spanish radio call of the beast quake
run from fourteen years ago.
Speaker 11 (31:05):
Yeah, the fascist says, he's that. Cupo says Cupo. I
can't wipe said he.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
The people Telena say, yeah, the other beef. Are you
(31:36):
sure that wasn't from like the World Cup or something.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
It was weird. It was like, here's the announcer. Do
you know who the announcer? I looked for like a
good half hour. I couldn't find their names.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
It was kind of a anti climatic.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Really, because it's in Spanish. Spanish is the awaiting? They
clearly weren't jacked up. Oh you waited? I got I
want to hear like the Hebrew radio call of that
touch down? All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to
(32:11):
hear that? What's that?
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Dick?
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Out a press conference yesterday, Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert said
that his head coach, Jim Harbaugh, has memories going all
the way back to the day he was born.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Was the first time Jim said where you were, like.
This guy's definitely different.
Speaker 12 (32:27):
I think when he talked about remembering the day that
he was born was probably the first day that he
kind of told us the whole story and how he
remembered looking out the window, and I think it was
a cold, snowy day. And I really hope he doesn't
remember that.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
That'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
God, are you always get on me for remembering things?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I really just think it's crazy, it's unique. I don't
have any idea, but.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
I don't remember anything prior to like four and a half.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You remember entering the world. No, I think that's that's
not real. Jim Harbor's flat out line. He's a liar.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
He he may have some thought in his head that
he's had for a long time about the day he
was born, and now it just becomes what he thinks
is a memory. Like I think about this stuff all
the time, guys, about how you can manipulate your own
mind into actually believing something well or forgetting something like
is it possible that the three of us, one of
(33:20):
us has done something horrific and we just forgot.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
There's a word for that. There's a psychological word for that.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Yeah, ask your Wifeyah know, Jackson actually committed some heinous
crime back in the day, but he's convinced himself it
never happened, and now he's just forgotten it.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
It's not gone now.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
I knew, like when the Seahawks won the Super Bowl,
I knew there was no chance Auby remember it. She
was like two, but Dixon was almost five. And I'm like,
does he remember it? And I told him on that
I go, I want you to remember all of this,
remember what we're doing. I took him outside he heard
the fireworks. I like, remember these fires like I wanted
to remember it, And yes he does. I've asked him
(33:57):
numerous times. Says He's like, I go, okay, fine, what
did we do? Where did we watch the game?
Speaker 5 (34:01):
And he can he can wrap it, you know, a
great way to get the kids to remember stuff like that.
I'll just record it. Take out your cell phone.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
It's like gallant slighting yourself, lighting yourself, dude.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
I just I'm just I think there's a lot of
people walking around that have done some pretty crazy stuff
and they've just convinced themself, like does O. J. Simpson
is dead now? But when he was alive, did he
actually convince himself I did not kill anybody that was
not me, that was somebody else. Yes, I think he does,
and he believes he's innocent.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Maybe he is in is it? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
I don't think he is self gas lighting. Okay, self,
stop self gas lighting. Jackson, admit to your hainus crimes.
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 1 (34:42):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Dick?
Speaker 5 (34:44):
With thirty six seconds left and Sunday's Buccaneers whenever the Saints,
Mike Evans needs five yards to hit a thousand for
the year and trigger a three million dollar contract bonus.
Head coach Todd Bowles could have called a kneel down,
but instead called a pass that resulted in an eight
yard grab for Evans so he could get the bonus.
At a press conference yesterday, Bulls was asked about the
play call to try to get Evans the extra three
(35:05):
million dollars.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
The risk you took to get Mike the record.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Was was a heart beating a little fast in that
situation for you knowing that what was all at stake there, No.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I was just hoping it was complete. And you know,
I think Mike owes me a million dollars.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
See, the difference is they made the playoffs, so it's
like easier to stomach, right right.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
But I like, if that ball goes off of Mike
Evans arms, pops into the air and it's taken to
the house, Michael Pennix and the Falcons are going to
the playoffs. I mean, was that the situation they had
to the Saints won, then yes? What was this because
at the time that Falcons hadn't lost yet.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Gone overtime was gone over time, gotcha?
Speaker 8 (35:47):
Got so at the time, Sama Bay did not know
they were going to the super Bowl. They were did
not go they were going to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
That's ballsy.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
That is ballsy, very ballsy, and actually kind of ridiculous,
to be honest, How piss would you be your coach.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
If that happened? How the GM?
Speaker 9 (36:03):
The GM says, Todd, you just cost me three million
bucks next year.
Speaker 8 (36:08):
And to that end, have you ever heard any other
NFL season where there's been more talk about bonuses and incentives,
like like, what's this Kenny Albert who did the Seahawks game?
How many times did he bring up Gino's bonus?
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Nothing else to talk about? By the way, people are
reminding us, and they're exactly right. Bo Jackson running over
Brian Bosworth on My Night Football and running into the
Millan just texted and Marcus Allen against the Redskins and
circling back.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
So there's been a few, certainly in the twenty thirty years.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
It's got to be beast quakes. Got to be number one.
Let's do one more here, Okay, one more?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
He dick?
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 4 (36:44):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Yesterday on First Take, Steven day Smith sharing his thoughts
on the term black Monday after the Patriots fired girod
Mayo and are reportedly looking to hire Mike Vrabel.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
That's what this is about. This is about Mike Rabel.
Speaker 10 (36:56):
That's who they wanted, no question about it, and he's
the most He's a more experienced coach. I don't like this.
They called it black Friday for you know, black Monday,
rather for a reason, uh desertly to a posit I
don't know why it's not called white Monday. Doug Bill,
Doug Peterson.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Got fired from Jacksonville. He deserved that.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Firate H.
Speaker 10 (37:13):
Jerrame clearly was not given an opportunity or linkedy enough
opportunity considering how Bill what Bill Belichick left him with.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
From a talent perspective, I see, I think he's trying
to be funny. I mean, I don't know, did you
think that when you heard that?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I don't get that at all.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
I didn't think he's trying to be funny.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
You think he's actually pissed at they call black Fridays.
I don't know about pissed, but bothered. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Well, I mean then if you have a guy that's
got bad skin called pimple Friday and whatever, I mean, black,
black Monday, black Friday. I mean it's black Monday because
that's coaches get fired and black and dark darkness, right,
I mean, it's not like you know, light Monday.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
It's black Monday.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
That come on.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
That doesn't boy, that doesn't bother him. He's trying to
be funny.
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