November 11, 2025 • 36 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain discuss where the Huskies go from here after losing in Wisconsin and the trend of Sam Darnold over the last couple years including the playoffs too, then get to a Fact or Fiction pick and some Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I don't know, man, I'm kind of moving into Seahawks
mode for this game on Sunday Boys Seahawks and Rams
on Sunday afternoon from so FI Stadium. Just a gigantic game.
You don't often get games like this in the middle
of the year. I mean, there was a weekend, maybe
it was last weekend where the games were like all turns.
I mean, there's a lot of good games this weekend.
The Hawks and Rams are certainly one of them that
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you think about kind of how big this one is
for tie breaking scenarios things like that. I mean, I'd
like you to look at the odds to win the NFC,
like the percentages don't give me Vegas because the Hawks
began the year, I think we got them at like
what plus five eighty or something like that at the
Emerald Queen Casino. Now they're down to like plus two
hundred to win the NFC West. I mean, the odds
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have dropped dramatically and they only need one more win
to get the over, for God's sake. So if you
bet the over and you took the Hawks to win
the division, you are sitting pretty right now.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
No question. One of those is guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Unless there's a major collapse and like Sam Darnold gets
you know, the measles and sits out the next month,
they're gonna get the over. I mean, it would be
a colossal collapse to not get the over. But I'm
thinking about if they win the game Sunday, what does
the little percentage dally bop things say now about their
odds of winning the NFC West versus what it will
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say on Sunday night. If they win this game, Dick,
look into your dirt machine and you tell.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Us that, well, stat you still want, you still want
on the road.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I mean that would be huge, huge, And.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I think it's a bigger game for Los Angeles than
it is for SEATTLECA. Seattle already season end of today
already would have the tiebreaker over LA right now, if
you would have the tiebreaker and then you beat them
in their house. So I think if the Seahawks win
this game, I mean they are driver's seat front runner.
But but if they lose it, I don't think they're
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in trouble, right I think that hey, fine, you lost it, Okay,
you're down by a game, just go back and get
it again. When they come to Seattle on December eighteenth,
Thursday night for fotball my son's sixteenth birthday, and get
it back, and you're fine.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Who do the Niners have this weekend? By the way,
who are they playing?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
They got the Cardinals at Arizona and they gave up
forty two to the Rams over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
They've lost two of their last three. Here's my point.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
If the Seahawks lose this game on Sunday, because you said,
do you think the Hawks are fine if they lose
the game, yes, the Hawks will be seven and three.
The Rams win this weekend, or the Niners win this weekend. Sorry,
there's seven and four, so the Hawks will be a
half game out behind San Francisco and the Niners, of
courses of right now have the tiebreaker. I can see
a scenario where the Niners win this weekend, the Hawks lose,
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and you got the Rams at eight and two. The
Hawks are seven and three, the Niners are seven and four,
and it's all just bunched up at the top of
the NFC West. And then you start thinking, well, that
second game against the Rams is going to be gigantic,
and there's still a possibility that that game in or
I must said, Candlestick Levi Stadium is going to be
huge two for maybe a potential seeding or a playoff
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spot or whatever. I mean, I don't think you're gonna
see three teams from the West make the playoffs. But
it's not impossible that you can see three teams from
the West make the playoffs. I mean, right now you
look at the NFC playoffs, Dick and the Niners are
the eighth seed. I mean, they're a game out behind
Green Bay right now. They're like they're right there, and
they haven't played well by their standards. So these games
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this weekend, the first true inter divisional matchup with all
four teams going and something to really kind of start
to play for this weekend is mammoth.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
As far as what direction the NFC West goes, well,
I'm not too afraid of the Niners.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
The only thing that worries me about the Niners is
their schedule because they literally play nobody other than Indianapolis
and Seattle the rest of the way. The rest of
their teams nothing right. Chicago's good, though, I'm not sold
in Chicago. That is at home, that's in San Francisco.
I think the Niners probably win that game. But my
point is the Niners over the last six weeks, since
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everybody has gone down, they've been uber mediocre, right for sure?
Three and three losses to Jacksonville, Tampa Bay, and Houston.
Excuse me, three and four with losses to Jacksonville, Tampa Bay,
Houston and the Rams. So I just don't think that
the Niners are on the Seahawks and Rams level, and
I think that will probably play out by the end
of the STOT.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I don't think so either, But I think that if
you allow stuff to happen, like the Huskies allowed stuff
to happen, like honestly, like, who do you think has
a better roster Wisconsin?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Are you done?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Okay, cockys by? But the Huskies allowed stuff to happen.
They turned the ball over, they had a terrible day
on special teams, they putted like crap. They gave Wisconsin
the ball inside their own fifty yard line three times
and they gave it away.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So you're talking about one game scenario. I'm talking about
the next seven games. Seattle is going to distance themselves,
I would hope. So I think the Niners are gonna
get healthy. Don't you think at some point they're gonna
get start getting some guys back.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I mean, they'll be better or worse. Well, they can't
be worse than the way they're playing now.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I mean, if Dick just pointed out they stayed, they
better off with Perty or Jones say here's the thing.
They stink and there's still a game out of first place,
you know. I mean, if they win this weekend, they're
a half game out of second place. So look, I'm
not overly concerned about it, right, I'm just saying this
that if anybody is going to make a move, this
thing on Sunday for everybody is huge, very very very big.
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And I don't know if I've been honestly this fired
up about a game in the middle of November in a.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Long damn time. Oh, there's no question about it. And
you talked about how the focus is now on the Seahawks.
I mean, how far have we come in the last
week where we were kind of fifty to fifty Husky
Seahawks Husky Seahawks Now, to quote my son and it's
kind of sad to say, but he said.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It today we're talking about that.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
He's like, well, the Husky season is kind of there's
only nothing to play for anymore, which is kind of sad,
but I think he's in the majority of Husky fans.
I think we'll see that on Saturday in the attendance
against Purdue. Yeah, you know, and whereas now all the
focus is going over to the Seahawks for the rest
of the season.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, no, I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I mean, we're gonna talk about that with the Hanks today,
about like what the Huskies can really prove against Purdue,
and I think the answer is nothing. I mean, this
is a terrible football team. They've lost sixteen consecutive games
in the Big Ten. They're a bad football team. And
let's face it for now, a lot of the year
was taken out of the balloon on Saturday at Madison.
There's no question about that, man. I mean when you
start talking about CFP and rankings and getting into the
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mix and wanting to make a run and making that
orogon game matter, well, you know, everything was based on
them winning three in a row. Everything, everything was based
on them winning three games against what we thought were
inferior football teams. And if you play Wisconsin ten ten times,
it probably went eight of them, right, maybe nine?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Who knows, right.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But the one game was on Saturday, and I thought
going into that Wisconsin game that I didn't think the
Huskies would lose at all.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I wasn't overly concerned about that.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
But what I did kind of find myself concerned about, Dick,
was that Wisconsin had played three of the top five
defenses in the country. I said that on the air,
and they're gonna get a little bit of a blow
against the Huskies, just a little bit of a break
against the Huskies and that team. But the D was fine,
and the Husky D was fine. But they also were
able to run the ball when they had to. They
were able to move the ball enough to get into
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field goal range and take advantage of Again, it seems
massively unfair getting the ball to seven yard line and
getting into the end zone, right, I mean, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Walters talked about that today.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
It seems ridiculous that you're asking a defense to stop
a team from the seven yard line.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
But that's what they were asked to do.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And all they had to do was God, those three
scoring drives Deck, all they had to do collectively was
gained like fifty yards to get the points that they had.
It's all they had to do because the offense just
gave it away. So I don't know, I'm still a
little bit I don't know what the word is, infuriated
about what happened on Saturday at Wisconsin. That was that
was a pretty big setback for me for everything Jedfish
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is trying to build here.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Well, and also it just kind of takes the starts
out of the next three weeks. Right, every single one
of these games, if they were to beat had beaten Wiscon,
and every one of these games over the next three
weeks would have been building.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Right, Hey, got another win. We're that much close to
the CP.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
We're that much closer to the big, huge matchup against Oregon,
and now it's just all the only thing we can
do now is be upset minded against Oregon and be
the and be the wrench into their CP plane.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Right, Yeah, I guess I mean I'm still for me,
I guess that'd be nice. I still think getting nine wins,
maybe having a chance at ten with a Bowl game,
would be a pretty significant step forward for these guys
considering where they were a couple of years ago. If
I would have told you in the middle of all
these dudes taking off and going to Alabama and going
to Ole Miss and transferring out of here. You know,
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Jeremy Bernard walks away, Brelsford walks away, Below walks away,
Caleeppo walks away, Austin Mack walks away. Who's the guy
from here that went to Miami? For God's sakes, the
safety I know as went to Florida. But there's the
local kid that went to Miami. Whatever his name was,
I forgot it.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Ready blanked them out of mind.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I honestly, I'm not trying to do that to be
an a hole. I honestly forgot the guy's name. Beach
had to pick six against ASU, right, Yes, But if
I would have told you right in the middle of
that mass exodus that two years later Washington's going to
go nine to three in their second year in the
Big Ten with a chance to win ten in a
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bowl game, I would have said that's pretty significant. I agree,
that's that's a big step for that team. It's just
absolutely stinks that the reason why I can handle losing
to Ohio State and Michigan right now in context, I'm
not going to be able to handle losing to them
when this thing gets going but I think in context
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of where the program is coming out of the hole
that they were put in. You can justify losing to
Ohio State, and you can understand losing to Michigan. I
can't justify what happens Saturday.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
There's no justification.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Now, I'm wondering, as these teams play more, as these
West Coast New Big Ten teams play more and more
games back east, will they get better at it? Because
it's not just a Husky problem. It's a problem across
the board, and the Huskies have looked like a completely
different team heading east than they do here on the
West Coast.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah. No, I totally agree with that.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I mean it's again it's Jedfish has made a big
deal about it. I mean he's gone out of his
way to talk about how they've addressed it, and they
talked to the Seahawks and they did this, and they
did that, and they talked to doctors and magicians and
all kinds of weird stuff, and it's just never it
just hasn't taken yet. So I you know, look, I'm
I'm I'm in the mood. And again, I have no
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idea where this is going. Guys with him, we're going
to discuss that with the Hanks. There's a clip from
yesterday from the press conference that we're going to play
with Greg and Mario and respond to what Jed talked
about yesterday with his family and why they're doing what
they're doing, and his love for you to have and
all that stuff. But I just get the feeling now.
I don't know how you feel about it, but I
feel like whatever people's thoughts are on Jed and his
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intentions and his sincerity and his commitment and desire, whatever
you want to say, I don't think there's anything at
this point Jedfish can say that would change anybody's mind
on that at all. So I'm not worried about it.
I'm taking it as a year by year thing. I'm
not assuming Jed's going to be here long term. I
don't even know if he'll be back next year. I
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think if I was a betting man, I would say, yes,
he's back next year, but it wouldn't shock me if
he left. First of all, if he leaves, he's got
to either a have another reason to get out besides
football reasons like family, or he's got to be desired
by a bigger name more high profile program, and frankly,
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I don't know how desirable Jedfish is right now.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
He's probably still desirably UCLA, right.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
But not to Florida or Penn State or whatever, a
place like that Ole miss if Kiffin takes off.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
So if he wants to go.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
To UCLA, then he wants to go to Ucla, Okay, whatever,
If his wife and family and he wants to go
down there, and maybe he just feels like he's he's
a guy that wants to be in better weather and
he wants to be a part of this renaissance at UCLA. Whatever, whatever,
his reasons are, fine, but he's not a guy that
I think college football is lining up to get a
shot at right now.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
That's my I believe.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Him when he says he really likes coaching the Huskies,
and he purposely and probably rightfully so keeps, you know,
his wife's desires out of it. So you know, you
can speculate all you want. But I mean, when it
comes to people questioning whether Jedfish wants to be here,
I mean, he kind of made his own bed with
his decisions over the last fifteen years to stay places
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two years, right, I mean, if you stay at place
two years every single two years for fifteen years. I
mean it's a question that should be asked of you
because you have already established that as your pattern.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean again, I just think everything
he said yesterday was fine. I had no problem with
what Jedfish said yesterday. I just wish he would have
said it two months ago, right, if he were to
come out that way and talked about that two months ago.
This thing, this thing's been lingering right for a while,
and like it or not, right or wrong, it's a
topic right. Fans are talking about it, People are talking
about it. Social media is talking about it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Again.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I've never been a guy from the start that thought
that Jed was going to be here long term. Ever,
so this is not a surprise to me. If this
happens this way, I'm not going to be blindsided by it.
I've expected it. I think whatever they can get out
of him is great. I don't have any any doubt, Dick,
that Jedfish is busting his ass right now as the
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coach at Washington.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I'm not doubting that at all. I think he's working hard.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I Mean, we've seen coaches come through here that we're
not working hard that we're skating by and that's not
Jet at all. It's not in his DNA to do
something like I think he's working really hard. I just
don't know if he wants to be here long term.
So whatever happens happens. But in the meantime, they got
to find a way to get some wins and get
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back in the win column to give themselves the best chance.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Everything I've ever said about Jedfish I retain. Either My
opinion of Jedfish has not changed a bit, and I
know a lot of people's opinion of Jedfish changed just
based upon what happened last week.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I don't work that way. I don't.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I don't say all of a sudden, you're a bad
coach because you lost Wisconsin. But what I will say
is he's awesome at the nil game. He's awesome at
getting his kids deals. He's awesome at bringing four star
kids into the University of Washington, and that is really
really important. What I've always questioned about Jed Fish is
can you take a group of guys and beat a
team that's got a better group of guys, And so
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far he has not done that yet, And so I
want to see I don't want to see him losing
to Washington State. I don't want to see him losing
to Wisconsin. And those are two teams that he has
lost to since he has been here that had noticeably
worse talent?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Was you not as much as Wisconsin?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
But wouldn't you agree last year's was your team still
had worse talent than Washington did.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, Materier would have been kind of an equalizer, But yeah,
I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
I mean, he's he's lost to the games that he
should have won, and he hasn't won any games yet
that he shouldn't have won, right, So that's what I
want to see.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I think that that part of the equation is more
concerning for me, and it's not as concerning because it's
in the middle of year two. If this is year
three and he's still not doing that, Like, what does
his signature win right now? It's probably Illinois, maybe Michigan.
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Michigan last year, but they ended up stinking, they couldn't
throw the ball, they had no offense, right, so there's
really nothing there, which.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Again I get.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I guess my question for Husky fans is this, And
I love how we've just transitioned to you.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
My question to Husky fans is this, how much should
we be holding Jed's feet to the fire to day
versus in year three versus in year four, because I
think we all have to agree this is not a
typical situation with all the roster and over that they've had.
Like if this was Steve Sarkesian in year two or
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Tyron Willingham in year two or Rick new heislan year
two who went to the Rose Bowl, maybe you'd be
a little different, right because the previous regime, when they
get fired and when they took off, they couldn't players
were trapped, they couldn't go anywhere, So you're inheriting the
old roster. Like new Heiseel won the Rose Bowl with
a lot of Lambos guys, Kalin de Borr went to
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the National Championship Game with a lot of Jimmy Lakes guys.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
He really did, He.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Did, okay, because guys couldn't leave like they can now.
This is just two three years ago and guys couldn't
transfer the way they can now. So how much of
a break in context does Jed get versus the expectations
and where they would have been in a typical second year,
ten year, five, ten years ago. That's the question I
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Speaker 2 (17:38):
But tell you what, man Seahawks and Rams.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
On Sunday, I was talking to our buddy, ear buddy,
everybody's buddy, Jackson Bevans today on his podcast when I
could see his face through the plume of cigar smoke
that was engulfing his cranium on that thing. I feel
like I was getting, you know, emphysema just watching him
by the way on that damn thing.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
But anyway, you.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Know, he's got the concern, and he brought it up
to us when he was on the air with us
a couple weeks ago, that, hey, I want to see
what Sam Darnald does when the playoffs are around and
there's a big game in the fourth quarter in week seventeen,
Week eighteen, which I mean, really that's kind of what
all quarterbacks. Good quarterbacks are judged by how they perform
in the clutch. I don't, though, find myself waking up
really concerned about that.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I mean, if we sit here and say.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Okay, this is the data that shows that Sam Donald
doesn't play well at the end of the year or
in a playoff game, there's really only two games in
his career to look at it, and it's last year,
right with the Lions and the Rams, and he was
terrible in those two games. He was eighteen for forty
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one against the Lions for a buck sixty six, and
he was twenty five to forty to forty five touchdown
two turnovers against the Rams.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
So I kind of feel like a narrative in some way.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
He's not all for everybody, but for some people a
little bit of a narrative is developing because of eight
quarters of football.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yes, I think it's entirely unfair. And I think if
you want to just make a list of the quarterbacks
over the last five years since the retirement of Tom
Brady that actually always do well in the playoffs, you
could say Patrick Mahomes end of list, if you wanted
to do that, and then you could extend it to
quarterbacks that usually do well in the playoffs. You could
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add Joe Burrow, you could add Josh Allen, and maybe
Jalen Hurts and then Matthew Stafford. I mean, it's a
very very very small group that don't have the types
of games that Sam Donald look at Jared.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Goff at, like at Lamar Jackson exactly, so those guys
have way more games exactly. So I mean Sam Donald maybe,
and like, let me just back up. My thing with
Josh Allen is part of the problem with Josh Allen
is he runs into Patrick Mahomes. I mean that is
number one. His issue runs into a brick wall called
Patrick Mahomes. Same thing with McDermott, right number two. But
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with Sam Donald year old, have we even seen enough
data to be able to look at him and say, well,
this is a trend, you know. I mean, every time
he gets into a playoff game, and every time he
gets into a big game late in the year he
craps himself.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Well, how often have we even seen him playing games
like that? Not? Never?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
There There's nothing we can really take from last year
in any regard. And the fact of the matter is
is that this Seahawk team, I think is much better
than the Vikings team was last year as an entire unit, right, Yeah,
Like the defense clearly much better than that Vikings defense.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
So there's no reason.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
That we should take any you know, put any stock
in last year's play game.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And look, he may end up being that guy who
knows he may end it. He's only twenty seven. He
may end up being a guy that when he gets
a chance at a big moment that he wilts and
falls apart and turns the ball over and coughs them up.
He may be that guy. And maybe he's trending in
some people's minds towards being that guy. But God, I
feel like this is just some gigant Millstone that he
should be carrying around that people think.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And there's only a couple teams that he could potentially
play in the NFC playoffs that he would actually have
a field day against. Right, I mean the Bears, the
Bucks potentially, But if he plays the Rams, it gonna
be a field day. If he plays the Eagles, the Packers.
Did you see those two defenses last night?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, I mean some of those two offenses, I mean
exactly that. But I'm talking from a Sam Darnald day.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Sam Darnald's not gonna rip up any of those teams
because no quarterbacks going to rip up any of those teams.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Well, that's why it was so important to get to
seven to two, right, and so important for him to
have the start that he's had, because you've given yourself,
excuse me, a little bit of cushion with the playoffs.
I mean, no cushion with the division. Obviously, I get that,
and that's the goal now. But I don't know, man,
I just feel like there's a lot of people in
town that are kind of waiting for him to fail
and waiting for him to fall apart. And I don't know,
maybe we should feel that way too. Maybe I should
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feel that way. Maybe he hasn't done enough. I mean,
the guy in his first six years in the NFL
had a career passer rating of like seventy eight and
then just all of a sudden pops out.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Of nowhere for one hundred and three last season. So
I get it.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
There's still people that are a little scarred by what
they thought they knew of Sam Donald and what he
did in his first six seven years in the NFL.
And actually what he's doing right now is pretty unique, right, Like,
there's not gonna be a lot of guys that play
that long in the NFL and then all of a sudden,
just boom, turn it around. You know what Daniel Jones
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is doing, what Baker Mayfield's doing. Even some ways what
Gino Smith did is not unique. It's not typical. And
when you see something that's not typical, you wait for
it to go back to being typical.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah, And I think I think people are gonna go
in They're either going to be in the Sam Donald
camp going into the playoffs, or they're going to be
in the anti Sam Donald camp. And whatever he does,
I think those people are going to be They're going
to validate themselves, because the Seahawks could win over the
Eagles in the playoffs and Sam Donald could go like
eighteen of thirty for a buck forty five in a
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touchdown and they could win, and people like see Sam
Donald led the Seahawks to a win over the Eagles.
But the Sam Donalds haters will be like Sam Darnold
didn't win that game, right, So I think both sides
are gonna be able to validate themselves.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Oh god, it's already tireson. How let's get to it.
Factor fiction?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Where's that to go? Glad you're with us?
Speaker 6 (23:11):
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Speaker 1 (23:31):
Let's get to it. Bad week for us? Last week
we won him four? Is that right on the air?
One and four? I think Jackson lost. I was owing
to Dick one and one, So time to rally baby.
We took the under in the Rams Seahawks game yesterday.
Jess took the Jets plus the points against the Patriots today.
Christopha took the Ravens minus the nine against the Browns,
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and Ashley took Denver plus four and a half against
Kansas City. Dick, here we go. What do you got?
Save us? Bail us out, big one boy? What do
you got you're really gonna give me? Patrick Mahomes off
a loss, going into a Denver team that has won
seven straight games with a very mediocre offense, and you're
(24:12):
only half to I'm only going to have to give
you four and a half points.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Give me the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Okay, four and a half going into Denver directly against
ash going directly against Ashley, and by the way, it
should be three in every single book in the world.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Except the one we're supposed to use here has it
at three and a half.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Okay, So but I'll give them the extra point because
I think this is definitely a touchdown win for Patrick
Mahomes desperate. By the way, Kansas City Chiefs at five
and four. If they want to win the division, they
have to win this game or else they are three
game no wait, four games back.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
If they lose this game, the Broncos would be nine
and two. They'd be three back with the tiebreaker going
to Denver. Right, they'd be done, They've be done in
the division, so I have to win this game. ESPN
Bet has them at plus three and a half, your
sing book that we use as a four and a half. Okay,
well you know what, Hey, listen, we don't mind, we
don't mind, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Chiefs win big.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
We're taking the Chiefs plus the four and a half
going opposite Ashley Ryan this morning on the Morning show.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
You like it fact, you hate it fiction to four nine,
four or five one.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I guess if you would have told me back in
August that Kansas City would be what getting or giving
sorry four and a half on the road to Denver,
I probably would have said, hey, man, where do I
sign up?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I'll take it? And are they are they coming off
a buye? Is that right? The coming of the Bills? Right?
But they're coming off a bye though? Correct?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Because didn't the Bills get beat by Miami this weekend?
And what's Andy Reid's record off like a billion and three?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah? When do you look that up?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
By the way, okay, look it up, because they are
coming off of bye I think Andy Reid's record is
ridiculous coming off of Bye insanely going twenty two and four.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
There you go, there you go, twenty two and four
off the buy.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
You think Ashley Ryan had that information at her disposal
this morning?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
We're taking the Chiefs minus the four and a half
at Denver Factor Fiction nine four five one, all courtesy
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We're gonna break a little fun with audio next on
ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
It's now time for Sufday in Dick's Fun with Audio.
Jimmy g Pat.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo. Now let's have some fun with audio.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Here we go Husky Hawks next segment, Greg Lewis, Mario Bailey.
We'll also give away our final We Fly You By
contest award winner for a trip to UCLA to the
Rose Bowl Air Fair game tickets. The whole thing might
be the last time you ever see you play Ucla
in a regular season game in the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Are they gonna get out of that deal. We're gonna
let them out of that deal.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Talk to John Wilner about that at five o'clock tonight,
because man, you cla fans are pissed off. All right,
here we go a little fun with audio slash. Hey
did you hear that? Hey, Dick, did you happen to
hear that?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
We start with Cam Newton joining ESPN's first Take yesterday
and had some fun during their discussion about how many
tush pushes what happened in the Eagles Packers game last night.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
The most number of toush pushes we've seen from the
Eagles is four. I'm gonna say five or more tonight.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
We're gonna see the most number of toush pushes from
the Eagle.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I'm predicted. I'm predicted more than five.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
Yeah, I'm predicted one of five to bushes just to
get on green Bay's notes.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Real interesting. A lot of.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
Shortyard looking at off the free.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
God, It's almost like they didn't even hear what he
was saying. Did they even know he's there? Who was
the gal that was on ESPN with Steven as the
new person?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Who the new person?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
All right?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I don't know I don't know name this.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
We saw the Seahawks do that a lot over the weekend,
the barner push, the barner, push, the barner butt, And
we're now seeing a lot of other teams do it.
And I just wonder, because a lot of other teams
are saying, hell, if you can't beat them, join them.
Will they actually ban this thing now?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I think they will absolutely banned this thing for two reasons.
One they were only one vote away from banning it
last year, and two there's been way more controversy with
the false starts this year.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Mike, God, did you see the one last night? Terrible?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
The entire line moved half a yard before the snap
and they didn't call it.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
So is the line judge like in the locker room
for that? I mean, how do you miss something like that?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Man? I just don't get it.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I mean, this is why people think the NFL's rigged
when they do when they don't call things like that.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you what's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Continuing with more first take, Jackson's favorite TV show, Meta Chimes,
was hyping up the Seahawks and their great road record.
When Stephen a smooth Steven A, I'm sorry Stephen A.
Smith pooped in Seattle and Sam Darnold's cheerios.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
Does anyone here know what Mike McDonald's record is on
the road with this team? They they didn't one guys.
So when we talk about the road going through the
Philadelphia Eagles, you know who's not scared of doing that?
This Seattle Seahawks team, because they have been going on
the row dominating teams.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
Well, hold on, hold, don Mina comes, let's pump the
breaks for just a second.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
McDonald, coach McDonald could feel that way all he wants to.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
He ain't coach Sam Donald in the playoffs. He ain't
coach Sam Donald playoff. So that's wait, let's wait and see.
We just got done talking about that last second. Yep.
I'm gonna look up his career playoff numbers, by the way, all.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Right, because in the playoff game, that's my one point,
that's my entire point. How many freaking playoff games as
Sam Donald played one in his career?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Just one?
Speaker 1 (29:43):
It's the one. It's the one game. Like, am I
missing something here? I had to look it up to
make sure. Is there something that happened in Carolina with
the Jets or what? No one playoff game and all
of a sudden, Sam Donald sucks in the postseason one game,
like I would love to do. You have gotten into that
debate with steven A. It's like, okay, so you are
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forming a narrative. You are locking Sam Darnald in because
of one playoff game one that he played, and apparently
the answers yes, the answers yes, And I think the
reason why is because people still cannot believe that Sam
Darnold has turned into what he's turned into, and they
gotta have some reason to believe he's gonna turn it
(30:24):
into a pumpkin again. So they look at the one
playoff game where he's stunk.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
That's it, I think is exactly right, and that's their
main reasoning behind sticking to their guns that Sam Darnold
is not a very good quarterback.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Right right, Well, he's playing like an MVP candidate right now. Man, Well,
wait until you hear tomorrow's show, by the way, and
steven A's take on the top five teams in the
National Football League.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
So you'll want to hear that tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Dick? All right? Three four, five, you tell me Jackson?
Which one three? All right? Today? In the awkward interviews category.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
During ESPN's Manning Cast last night, comedian Shane Gillis joined
Peyton and Eli for the.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Fourth quarter of the Eagle Packer game.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
They let Shane go from the call, but then he
stayed on anyway to watch the end of the game.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
He's still on, Saane. I didn't know. I thought he
was saying goodbye, but take a still on. Speaking of awkwardness,
I'm still here, okay, love it.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
All right.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
I wasn't here.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I don't know. We'll give you.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
We'll give you an opportunity if you want to, if
you want to go off.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I would, I would, I'd love to. I'd love to stay.
Let's write it out. Peyton Paydon's been trying to kick
me off. But no, that's just totally awkward. Is there
not a producer there? They can let him go, somebody
controlling the audio? What was the producer doing?
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Not like they let him go and they just didn't
end the call.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Reminds me of a certain Baseball's Best post game show
from the playoffs this year, or we got a guy
in the air that didn't know he was on the
air and the person in charge.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I was on vacation, I was in Los Angeles. What
if wasn't here.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
What if at five o'clock today, what if at five
o'clock today, Mario and Greg just sat in here at
their headphones on the microphone, were just like hey guys,
They're like, no, they're around, We just wanted to talk
to Wilner with you, or they're over here having.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
A conversation, and Dick Jackson just turns their mics on,
Like that's like there's literally somebody controlling that. Yeah, at ESPN,
nobody has to have the camera on him him go right,
unless it's like an air traffic controller. And the guy
just set him out of here and just left Peyton
and Eli and Shane to their own devices. I mean,
who knows what the hell they were doing. But yeah,
(32:45):
that was pretty damncomfortable. Let's get two more a dick.
Did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
What's that? Dick? All right?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Apparently this is all just like ESPN stuff. During PTI yesterday,
Michael Wilbond was nonchalant about baseball's gambling scandal and federal
indictments against Emmanuel Class and Louis Ortiz.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Going back to what does it say to you?
Speaker 8 (33:05):
If if guilty and there's punishment, so be it. I mean,
you know the rules, it's explained over and over to you,
and you know it's all. I don't care really because
at the highest levels of pyramids in this country, in
this culture, everybody's betting. Now it's on every phone except yours?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
In mind? Don't you want it to be honest?
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Don't you want it to be Does that affect the game?
Speaker 8 (33:29):
Does it tilted in any way that matters to me?
Speaker 7 (33:32):
I know what you're gonna say that it's very small
and it's not throwing the game. But the more these
things happen, it's slope, a sunny slope. But you know what,
let's take.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yeah, I totally, I mean, I totally agree with Corneiser there.
It is a slippery slope.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
A guy spiking a pitch into the dirt to make
two thousand dollars, which is what he was making, is like,
what the hell? But it's a slippery slope, right, So
did I hear that correctly?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Did Michael Wilbon say it's not a big deal because
everybody's gambling, Yes, yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't even
have a response to that.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard him say. And
I like Michael Wilbon, that's the absolute most idiotic, dumbest
thing I've ever heard come out of a mouth at
somebody at ESPN.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
So where does he draw the line?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Okay, if they're playing in the World Series and it's
Game seven, bottom of the ninth and the guy's got
money and he wants to dirt one to influence a
pitching count, I mean, you're you're saying that's okay because
everybody else is gambling. Everybody else does not have influence
over the game.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You moron? Are you kidding me? There's no way he
believes that chance in hell. He's gonna go home.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
He's gonna watch the video. He's gonna say, God, what
the hell was I think I think.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
He's gonna go home. Wow, he's gonna maybe he didn't
understand the question.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, I think he's gonna go home and say, you know,
that didn't come out exactly the way I'm meant ittize.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
That is ridiculous, guys.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I mean, look, if these guys are making bets on
other sports and blah blah blah, even betting on baseball
blah blah blah. But when they're literally accused of throwing games,
impacting games to affect a betting line or a wager
that they've made, there's nothing okay with that.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
You're tugging at the entire integrity of an entire sport.
And this guy says it's not a big deal because
everybody's gambling. Look, if you don't think it's a big deal, fine,
give me another reason why. Besides everybody is gambling, because
that's just dumb.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
My god, would an idiotic take? All right?
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I just don't understand why these guys would do it
for a couple of thousand dollars, like they'd.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Risk their career well for a couple of thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yet, news for you, because they're probably not doing it
for a couple thousand dollars. They're probably doing a lot more,
for a lot more. Well, that's what the report was,
is how much they were getting for each other. There
could be a lot more there. And sometimes guys also
get you know, they get sick.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Gambling is a disease.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
You ever see the natural like a boat gently rocking Okay,
I'm telling you man, these guys get caught up in
this stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
We had that same conversation about those knuckleheads in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
We're gonna break Husky Hawks next on ninety three to
three KJRFM.
I don't know, man, I'm kind of moving into Seahawks
mode for this game on Sunday Boys Seahawks and Rams
on Sunday afternoon from so FI Stadium. Just a gigantic game.
You don't often get games like this in the middle
of the year. I mean, there was a weekend, maybe
it was last weekend where the games were like all turns.
I mean, there's a lot of good games this weekend.
The Hawks and Rams are certainly one of them that
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you think about kind of how big this one is
for tie breaking scenarios things like that. I mean, I'd
like you to look at the odds to win the NFC,
like the percentages don't give me Vegas because the Hawks
began the year, I think we got them at like
what plus five eighty or something like that at the
Emerald Queen Casino. Now they're down to like plus two
hundred to win the NFC West. I mean, the odds
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have dropped dramatically and they only need one more win
to get the over, for God's sake. So if you
bet the over and you took the Hawks to win
the division, you are sitting pretty right now.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
No question. One of those is guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Unless there's a major collapse and like Sam Darnold gets
you know, the measles and sits out the next month,
they're gonna get the over. I mean, it would be
a colossal collapse to not get the over. But I'm
thinking about if they win the game Sunday, what does
the little percentage dally bop things say now about their
odds of winning the NFC West versus what it will
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say on Sunday night. If they win this game, Dick,
look into your dirt machine and you tell.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Us that, well, stat you still want, you still want
on the road.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I mean that would be huge, huge, And.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I think it's a bigger game for Los Angeles than
it is for SEATTLECA. Seattle already season end of today
already would have the tiebreaker over LA right now, if
you would have the tiebreaker and then you beat them
in their house. So I think if the Seahawks win
this game, I mean they are driver's seat front runner.
But but if they lose it, I don't think they're
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in trouble, right I think that hey, fine, you lost it, Okay,
you're down by a game, just go back and get
it again. When they come to Seattle on December eighteenth,
Thursday night for fotball my son's sixteenth birthday, and get
it back, and you're fine.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Who do the Niners have this weekend? By the way,
who are they playing?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
They got the Cardinals at Arizona and they gave up
forty two to the Rams over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
They've lost two of their last three. Here's my point.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
If the Seahawks lose this game on Sunday, because you said,
do you think the Hawks are fine if they lose
the game, yes, the Hawks will be seven and three.
The Rams win this weekend, or the Niners win this weekend. Sorry,
there's seven and four, so the Hawks will be a
half game out behind San Francisco and the Niners, of
courses of right now have the tiebreaker. I can see
a scenario where the Niners win this weekend, the Hawks lose,
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and you got the Rams at eight and two. The
Hawks are seven and three, the Niners are seven and four,
and it's all just bunched up at the top of
the NFC West. And then you start thinking, well, that
second game against the Rams is going to be gigantic,
and there's still a possibility that that game in or
I must said, Candlestick Levi Stadium is going to be
huge two for maybe a potential seeding or a playoff
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spot or whatever. I mean, I don't think you're gonna
see three teams from the West make the playoffs. But
it's not impossible that you can see three teams from
the West make the playoffs. I mean, right now you
look at the NFC playoffs, Dick and the Niners are
the eighth seed. I mean, they're a game out behind
Green Bay right now. They're like they're right there, and
they haven't played well by their standards. So these games
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this weekend, the first true inter divisional matchup with all
four teams going and something to really kind of start
to play for this weekend is mammoth.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
As far as what direction the NFC West goes, well,
I'm not too afraid of the Niners.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
The only thing that worries me about the Niners is
their schedule because they literally play nobody other than Indianapolis
and Seattle the rest of the way. The rest of
their teams nothing right. Chicago's good, though, I'm not sold
in Chicago. That is at home, that's in San Francisco.
I think the Niners probably win that game. But my
point is the Niners over the last six weeks, since
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everybody has gone down, they've been uber mediocre, right for sure?
Three and three losses to Jacksonville, Tampa Bay, and Houston.
Excuse me, three and four with losses to Jacksonville, Tampa Bay,
Houston and the Rams. So I just don't think that
the Niners are on the Seahawks and Rams level, and
I think that will probably play out by the end
of the STOT.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I don't think so either, But I think that if
you allow stuff to happen, like the Huskies allowed stuff
to happen, like honestly, like, who do you think has
a better roster Wisconsin?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Are you done?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Okay, cockys by? But the Huskies allowed stuff to happen.
They turned the ball over, they had a terrible day
on special teams, they putted like crap. They gave Wisconsin
the ball inside their own fifty yard line three times
and they gave it away.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So you're talking about one game scenario. I'm talking about
the next seven games. Seattle is going to distance themselves,
I would hope. So I think the Niners are gonna
get healthy. Don't you think at some point they're gonna
get start getting some guys back.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I mean, they'll be better or worse. Well, they can't
be worse than the way they're playing now.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I mean, if Dick just pointed out they stayed, they
better off with Perty or Jones say here's the thing.
They stink and there's still a game out of first place,
you know. I mean, if they win this weekend, they're
a half game out of second place. So look, I'm
not overly concerned about it, right, I'm just saying this
that if anybody is going to make a move, this
thing on Sunday for everybody is huge, very very very big.
(05:21):
And I don't know if I've been honestly this fired
up about a game in the middle of November in a.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Long damn time. Oh, there's no question about it. And
you talked about how the focus is now on the Seahawks.
I mean, how far have we come in the last
week where we were kind of fifty to fifty Husky
Seahawks Husky Seahawks Now, to quote my son and it's
kind of sad to say, but he said.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It today we're talking about that.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
He's like, well, the Husky season is kind of there's
only nothing to play for anymore, which is kind of sad,
but I think he's in the majority of Husky fans.
I think we'll see that on Saturday in the attendance
against Purdue. Yeah, you know, and whereas now all the
focus is going over to the Seahawks for the rest
of the season.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, no, I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I mean, we're gonna talk about that with the Hanks today,
about like what the Huskies can really prove against Purdue,
and I think the answer is nothing. I mean, this
is a terrible football team. They've lost sixteen consecutive games
in the Big Ten. They're a bad football team. And
let's face it for now, a lot of the year
was taken out of the balloon on Saturday at Madison.
There's no question about that, man. I mean when you
start talking about CFP and rankings and getting into the
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mix and wanting to make a run and making that
orogon game matter, well, you know, everything was based on
them winning three in a row. Everything, everything was based
on them winning three games against what we thought were
inferior football teams. And if you play Wisconsin ten ten times,
it probably went eight of them, right, maybe nine?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Who knows, right.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But the one game was on Saturday, and I thought
going into that Wisconsin game that I didn't think the
Huskies would lose at all.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I wasn't overly concerned about that.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
But what I did kind of find myself concerned about, Dick,
was that Wisconsin had played three of the top five
defenses in the country. I said that on the air,
and they're gonna get a little bit of a blow
against the Huskies, just a little bit of a break
against the Huskies and that team. But the D was fine,
and the Husky D was fine. But they also were
able to run the ball when they had to. They
were able to move the ball enough to get into
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field goal range and take advantage of Again, it seems
massively unfair getting the ball to seven yard line and
getting into the end zone, right, I mean, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Walters talked about that today.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
It seems ridiculous that you're asking a defense to stop
a team from the seven yard line.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
But that's what they were asked to do.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And all they had to do was God, those three
scoring drives Deck, all they had to do collectively was
gained like fifty yards to get the points that they had.
It's all they had to do because the offense just
gave it away. So I don't know, I'm still a
little bit I don't know what the word is, infuriated
about what happened on Saturday at Wisconsin. That was that
was a pretty big setback for me for everything Jedfish
(07:52):
is trying to build here.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Well, and also it just kind of takes the starts
out of the next three weeks. Right, every single one
of these games, if they were to beat had beaten Wiscon,
and every one of these games over the next three
weeks would have been building.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Right, Hey, got another win. We're that much close to
the CP.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
We're that much closer to the big, huge matchup against Oregon,
and now it's just all the only thing we can
do now is be upset minded against Oregon and be
the and be the wrench into their CP plane.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Right, Yeah, I guess I mean I'm still for me,
I guess that'd be nice. I still think getting nine wins,
maybe having a chance at ten with a Bowl game,
would be a pretty significant step forward for these guys
considering where they were a couple of years ago. If
I would have told you in the middle of all
these dudes taking off and going to Alabama and going
to Ole Miss and transferring out of here. You know,
(08:41):
Jeremy Bernard walks away, Brelsford walks away, Below walks away,
Caleeppo walks away, Austin Mack walks away. Who's the guy
from here that went to Miami? For God's sakes, the
safety I know as went to Florida. But there's the
local kid that went to Miami. Whatever his name was,
I forgot it.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Ready blanked them out of mind.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I honestly, I'm not trying to do that to be
an a hole. I honestly forgot the guy's name. Beach
had to pick six against ASU, right, Yes, But if
I would have told you right in the middle of
that mass exodus that two years later Washington's going to
go nine to three in their second year in the
Big Ten with a chance to win ten in a
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bowl game, I would have said that's pretty significant. I agree,
that's that's a big step for that team. It's just
absolutely stinks that the reason why I can handle losing
to Ohio State and Michigan right now in context, I'm
not going to be able to handle losing to them
when this thing gets going but I think in context
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of where the program is coming out of the hole
that they were put in. You can justify losing to
Ohio State, and you can understand losing to Michigan. I
can't justify what happens Saturday.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
There's no justification.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Now, I'm wondering, as these teams play more, as these
West Coast New Big Ten teams play more and more
games back east, will they get better at it? Because
it's not just a Husky problem. It's a problem across
the board, and the Huskies have looked like a completely
different team heading east than they do here on the
West Coast.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah. No, I totally agree with that.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I mean it's again it's Jedfish has made a big
deal about it. I mean he's gone out of his
way to talk about how they've addressed it, and they
talked to the Seahawks and they did this, and they
did that, and they talked to doctors and magicians and
all kinds of weird stuff, and it's just never it
just hasn't taken yet. So I you know, look, I'm
I'm I'm in the mood. And again, I have no
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idea where this is going. Guys with him, we're going
to discuss that with the Hanks. There's a clip from
yesterday from the press conference that we're going to play
with Greg and Mario and respond to what Jed talked
about yesterday with his family and why they're doing what
they're doing, and his love for you to have and
all that stuff. But I just get the feeling now.
I don't know how you feel about it, but I
feel like whatever people's thoughts are on Jed and his
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intentions and his sincerity and his commitment and desire, whatever
you want to say, I don't think there's anything at
this point Jedfish can say that would change anybody's mind
on that at all. So I'm not worried about it.
I'm taking it as a year by year thing. I'm
not assuming Jed's going to be here long term. I
don't even know if he'll be back next year. I
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think if I was a betting man, I would say, yes,
he's back next year, but it wouldn't shock me if
he left. First of all, if he leaves, he's got
to either a have another reason to get out besides
football reasons like family, or he's got to be desired
by a bigger name more high profile program, and frankly,
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I don't know how desirable Jedfish is right now.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
He's probably still desirably UCLA, right.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
But not to Florida or Penn State or whatever, a
place like that Ole miss if Kiffin takes off.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
So if he wants to go.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
To UCLA, then he wants to go to Ucla, Okay, whatever,
If his wife and family and he wants to go
down there, and maybe he just feels like he's he's
a guy that wants to be in better weather and
he wants to be a part of this renaissance at UCLA. Whatever, whatever,
his reasons are, fine, but he's not a guy that
I think college football is lining up to get a
shot at right now.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
That's my I believe.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Him when he says he really likes coaching the Huskies,
and he purposely and probably rightfully so keeps, you know,
his wife's desires out of it. So you know, you
can speculate all you want. But I mean, when it
comes to people questioning whether Jedfish wants to be here,
I mean, he kind of made his own bed with
his decisions over the last fifteen years to stay places
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two years, right, I mean, if you stay at place
two years every single two years for fifteen years. I
mean it's a question that should be asked of you
because you have already established that as your pattern.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean again, I just think everything
he said yesterday was fine. I had no problem with
what Jedfish said yesterday. I just wish he would have
said it two months ago, right, if he were to
come out that way and talked about that two months ago.
This thing, this thing's been lingering right for a while,
and like it or not, right or wrong, it's a
topic right. Fans are talking about it, People are talking
about it. Social media is talking about it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Again.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I've never been a guy from the start that thought
that Jed was going to be here long term. Ever,
so this is not a surprise to me. If this
happens this way, I'm not going to be blindsided by it.
I've expected it. I think whatever they can get out
of him is great. I don't have any any doubt, Dick,
that Jedfish is busting his ass right now as the
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coach at Washington.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I'm not doubting that at all. I think he's working hard.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I Mean, we've seen coaches come through here that we're
not working hard that we're skating by and that's not
Jet at all. It's not in his DNA to do
something like I think he's working really hard. I just
don't know if he wants to be here long term.
So whatever happens happens. But in the meantime, they got
to find a way to get some wins and get
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back in the win column to give themselves the best chance.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Everything I've ever said about Jedfish I retain. Either My
opinion of Jedfish has not changed a bit, and I
know a lot of people's opinion of Jedfish changed just
based upon what happened last week.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I don't work that way. I don't.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I don't say all of a sudden, you're a bad
coach because you lost Wisconsin. But what I will say
is he's awesome at the nil game. He's awesome at
getting his kids deals. He's awesome at bringing four star
kids into the University of Washington, and that is really
really important. What I've always questioned about Jed Fish is
can you take a group of guys and beat a
team that's got a better group of guys, And so
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far he has not done that yet, And so I
want to see I don't want to see him losing
to Washington State. I don't want to see him losing
to Wisconsin. And those are two teams that he has
lost to since he has been here that had noticeably
worse talent?
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Was you not as much as Wisconsin?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
But wouldn't you agree last year's was your team still
had worse talent than Washington did.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, Materier would have been kind of an equalizer, But yeah,
I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
I mean, he's he's lost to the games that he
should have won, and he hasn't won any games yet
that he shouldn't have won, right, So that's what I
want to see.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I think that that part of the equation is more
concerning for me, and it's not as concerning because it's
in the middle of year two. If this is year
three and he's still not doing that, Like, what does
his signature win right now? It's probably Illinois, maybe Michigan.
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Michigan last year, but they ended up stinking, they couldn't
throw the ball, they had no offense, right, so there's
really nothing there, which.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Again I get.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I guess my question for Husky fans is this, And
I love how we've just transitioned to you.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
My question to Husky fans is this, how much should
we be holding Jed's feet to the fire to day
versus in year three versus in year four, because I
think we all have to agree this is not a
typical situation with all the roster and over that they've had.
Like if this was Steve Sarkesian in year two or
(16:05):
Tyron Willingham in year two or Rick new heislan year
two who went to the Rose Bowl, maybe you'd be
a little different, right because the previous regime, when they
get fired and when they took off, they couldn't players
were trapped, they couldn't go anywhere, So you're inheriting the
old roster. Like new Heiseel won the Rose Bowl with
a lot of Lambos guys, Kalin de Borr went to
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the National Championship Game with a lot of Jimmy Lakes guys.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
He really did, He.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Did, okay, because guys couldn't leave like they can now.
This is just two three years ago and guys couldn't
transfer the way they can now. So how much of
a break in context does Jed get versus the expectations
and where they would have been in a typical second year,
ten year, five, ten years ago. That's the question I
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think the fans have to answer. All Right, we're gonna
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Speaker 1 (17:22):
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Speaker 2 (17:38):
But tell you what, man Seahawks and Rams.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
On Sunday, I was talking to our buddy, ear buddy,
everybody's buddy, Jackson Bevans today on his podcast when I
could see his face through the plume of cigar smoke
that was engulfing his cranium on that thing. I feel
like I was getting, you know, emphysema just watching him
by the way on that damn thing.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
But anyway, you.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Know, he's got the concern, and he brought it up
to us when he was on the air with us
a couple weeks ago, that, hey, I want to see
what Sam Darnald does when the playoffs are around and
there's a big game in the fourth quarter in week seventeen,
Week eighteen, which I mean, really that's kind of what
all quarterbacks. Good quarterbacks are judged by how they perform
in the clutch. I don't, though, find myself waking up
really concerned about that.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I mean, if we sit here and say.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Okay, this is the data that shows that Sam Donald
doesn't play well at the end of the year or
in a playoff game, there's really only two games in
his career to look at it, and it's last year,
right with the Lions and the Rams, and he was
terrible in those two games. He was eighteen for forty
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one against the Lions for a buck sixty six, and
he was twenty five to forty to forty five touchdown
two turnovers against the Rams.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
So I kind of feel like a narrative in some way.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
He's not all for everybody, but for some people a
little bit of a narrative is developing because of eight
quarters of football.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yes, I think it's entirely unfair. And I think if
you want to just make a list of the quarterbacks
over the last five years since the retirement of Tom
Brady that actually always do well in the playoffs, you
could say Patrick Mahomes end of list, if you wanted
to do that, and then you could extend it to
quarterbacks that usually do well in the playoffs. You could
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add Joe Burrow, you could add Josh Allen, and maybe
Jalen Hurts and then Matthew Stafford. I mean, it's a
very very very small group that don't have the types
of games that Sam Donald look at Jared.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Goff at, like at Lamar Jackson exactly, so those guys
have way more games exactly. So I mean Sam Donald maybe,
and like, let me just back up. My thing with
Josh Allen is part of the problem with Josh Allen
is he runs into Patrick Mahomes. I mean that is
number one. His issue runs into a brick wall called
Patrick Mahomes. Same thing with McDermott, right number two. But
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with Sam Donald year old, have we even seen enough
data to be able to look at him and say, well,
this is a trend, you know. I mean, every time
he gets into a playoff game, and every time he
gets into a big game late in the year he
craps himself.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Well, how often have we even seen him playing games
like that? Not? Never?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
There There's nothing we can really take from last year
in any regard. And the fact of the matter is
is that this Seahawk team, I think is much better
than the Vikings team was last year as an entire unit, right, Yeah,
Like the defense clearly much better than that Vikings defense.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
So there's no reason.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
That we should take any you know, put any stock
in last year's play game.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And look, he may end up being that guy who
knows he may end it. He's only twenty seven. He
may end up being a guy that when he gets
a chance at a big moment that he wilts and
falls apart and turns the ball over and coughs them up.
He may be that guy. And maybe he's trending in
some people's minds towards being that guy. But God, I
feel like this is just some gigant Millstone that he
should be carrying around that people think.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And there's only a couple teams that he could potentially
play in the NFC playoffs that he would actually have
a field day against. Right, I mean the Bears, the
Bucks potentially, But if he plays the Rams, it gonna
be a field day. If he plays the Eagles, the Packers.
Did you see those two defenses last night?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, I mean some of those two offenses, I mean
exactly that. But I'm talking from a Sam Darnald day.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Sam Darnald's not gonna rip up any of those teams
because no quarterbacks going to rip up any of those teams.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Well, that's why it was so important to get to
seven to two, right, and so important for him to
have the start that he's had, because you've given yourself,
excuse me, a little bit of cushion with the playoffs.
I mean, no cushion with the division. Obviously, I get that,
and that's the goal now. But I don't know, man,
I just feel like there's a lot of people in
town that are kind of waiting for him to fail
and waiting for him to fall apart. And I don't know,
maybe we should feel that way too. Maybe I should
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feel that way. Maybe he hasn't done enough. I mean,
the guy in his first six years in the NFL
had a career passer rating of like seventy eight and
then just all of a sudden pops out.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Of nowhere for one hundred and three last season. So
I get it.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
There's still people that are a little scarred by what
they thought they knew of Sam Donald and what he
did in his first six seven years in the NFL.
And actually what he's doing right now is pretty unique, right, Like,
there's not gonna be a lot of guys that play
that long in the NFL and then all of a sudden,
just boom, turn it around. You know what Daniel Jones
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is doing, what Baker Mayfield's doing. Even some ways what
Gino Smith did is not unique. It's not typical. And
when you see something that's not typical, you wait for
it to go back to being typical.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah, And I think I think people are gonna go
in They're either going to be in the Sam Donald
camp going into the playoffs, or they're going to be
in the anti Sam Donald camp. And whatever he does,
I think those people are going to be They're going
to validate themselves, because the Seahawks could win over the
Eagles in the playoffs and Sam Donald could go like
eighteen of thirty for a buck forty five in a
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touchdown and they could win, and people like see Sam
Donald led the Seahawks to a win over the Eagles.
But the Sam Donalds haters will be like Sam Darnold
didn't win that game, right, So I think both sides
are gonna be able to validate themselves.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Oh god, it's already tireson. How let's get to it.
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Speaker 1 (23:31):
Let's get to it. Bad week for us? Last week
we won him four? Is that right on the air?
One and four? I think Jackson lost. I was owing
to Dick one and one, So time to rally baby.
We took the under in the Rams Seahawks game yesterday.
Jess took the Jets plus the points against the Patriots today.
Christopha took the Ravens minus the nine against the Browns,
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and Ashley took Denver plus four and a half against
Kansas City. Dick, here we go. What do you got?
Save us? Bail us out, big one boy? What do
you got you're really gonna give me? Patrick Mahomes off
a loss, going into a Denver team that has won
seven straight games with a very mediocre offense, and you're
(24:12):
only half to I'm only going to have to give
you four and a half points.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Give me the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Okay, four and a half going into Denver directly against
ash going directly against Ashley, and by the way, it
should be three in every single book in the world.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Except the one we're supposed to use here has it
at three and a half.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Okay, So but I'll give them the extra point because
I think this is definitely a touchdown win for Patrick
Mahomes desperate. By the way, Kansas City Chiefs at five
and four. If they want to win the division, they
have to win this game or else they are three
game no wait, four games back.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
If they lose this game, the Broncos would be nine
and two. They'd be three back with the tiebreaker going
to Denver. Right, they'd be done, They've be done in
the division, so I have to win this game. ESPN
Bet has them at plus three and a half, your
sing book that we use as a four and a half. Okay,
well you know what, Hey, listen, we don't mind, we
don't mind, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Chiefs win big.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
We're taking the Chiefs plus the four and a half
going opposite Ashley Ryan this morning on the Morning show.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
You like it fact, you hate it fiction to four nine,
four or five one.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I guess if you would have told me back in
August that Kansas City would be what getting or giving
sorry four and a half on the road to Denver,
I probably would have said, hey, man, where do I
sign up?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I'll take it? And are they are they coming off
a buye? Is that right? The coming of the Bills? Right?
But they're coming off a bye though? Correct?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Because didn't the Bills get beat by Miami this weekend?
And what's Andy Reid's record off like a billion and three?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah? When do you look that up?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
By the way, okay, look it up, because they are
coming off of bye I think Andy Reid's record is
ridiculous coming off of Bye insanely going twenty two and four.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
There you go, there you go, twenty two and four
off the buy.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
You think Ashley Ryan had that information at her disposal
this morning?
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
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Speaker 6 (26:18):
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Speaker 3 (26:47):
Are they gonna get out of that deal. We're gonna
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Speaker 1 (26:50):
Talk to John Wilner about that at five o'clock tonight,
because man, you cla fans are pissed off. All right,
here we go a little fun with audio slash. Hey
did you hear that? Hey, Dick, did you happen to
hear that?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
We start with Cam Newton joining ESPN's first Take yesterday
and had some fun during their discussion about how many
tush pushes what happened in the Eagles Packers game last night.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
The most number of toush pushes we've seen from the
Eagles is four. I'm gonna say five or more tonight.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
We're gonna see the most number of toush pushes from
the Eagle.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I'm predicted. I'm predicted more than five.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
Yeah, I'm predicted one of five to bushes just to
get on green Bay's notes.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Real interesting. A lot of.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
Shortyard looking at off the free.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
God, It's almost like they didn't even hear what he
was saying. Did they even know he's there? Who was
the gal that was on ESPN with Steven as the
new person?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Who the new person?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
All right?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I don't know I don't know name this.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
We saw the Seahawks do that a lot over the weekend,
the barner push, the barner, push, the barner butt, And
we're now seeing a lot of other teams do it.
And I just wonder, because a lot of other teams
are saying, hell, if you can't beat them, join them.
Will they actually ban this thing now?
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I think they will absolutely banned this thing for two reasons.
One they were only one vote away from banning it
last year, and two there's been way more controversy with
the false starts this year.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Mike, God, did you see the one last night? Terrible?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
The entire line moved half a yard before the snap
and they didn't call it.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
So is the line judge like in the locker room
for that? I mean, how do you miss something like that?
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Man? I just don't get it.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I mean, this is why people think the NFL's rigged
when they do when they don't call things like that.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you what's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Continuing with more first take, Jackson's favorite TV show, Meta Chimes,
was hyping up the Seahawks and their great road record.
When Stephen a smooth Steven A, I'm sorry Stephen A.
Smith pooped in Seattle and Sam Darnold's cheerios.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
Does anyone here know what Mike McDonald's record is on
the road with this team? They they didn't one guys.
So when we talk about the road going through the
Philadelphia Eagles, you know who's not scared of doing that?
This Seattle Seahawks team, because they have been going on
the row dominating teams.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
Well, hold on, hold, don Mina comes, let's pump the
breaks for just a second.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
McDonald, coach McDonald could feel that way all he wants to.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
He ain't coach Sam Donald in the playoffs. He ain't
coach Sam Donald playoff. So that's wait, let's wait and see.
We just got done talking about that last second. Yep.
I'm gonna look up his career playoff numbers, by the way, all.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Right, because in the playoff game, that's my one point,
that's my entire point. How many freaking playoff games as
Sam Donald played one in his career?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Just one?
Speaker 1 (29:43):
It's the one. It's the one game. Like, am I
missing something here? I had to look it up to
make sure. Is there something that happened in Carolina with
the Jets or what? No one playoff game and all
of a sudden, Sam Donald sucks in the postseason one game,
like I would love to do. You have gotten into that
debate with steven A. It's like, okay, so you are
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forming a narrative. You are locking Sam Darnald in because
of one playoff game one that he played, and apparently
the answers yes, the answers yes, And I think the
reason why is because people still cannot believe that Sam
Darnold has turned into what he's turned into, and they
gotta have some reason to believe he's gonna turn it
(30:24):
into a pumpkin again. So they look at the one
playoff game where he's stunk.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
That's it, I think is exactly right, and that's their
main reasoning behind sticking to their guns that Sam Darnold
is not a very good quarterback.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Right right, Well, he's playing like an MVP candidate right now. Man, Well,
wait until you hear tomorrow's show, by the way, and
steven A's take on the top five teams in the
National Football League.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
So you'll want to hear that tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Dick? All right? Three four, five, you tell me Jackson?
Which one three? All right? Today? In the awkward interviews category.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
During ESPN's Manning Cast last night, comedian Shane Gillis joined
Peyton and Eli for the.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Fourth quarter of the Eagle Packer game.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
They let Shane go from the call, but then he
stayed on anyway to watch the end of the game.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
He's still on, Saane. I didn't know. I thought he
was saying goodbye, but take a still on. Speaking of awkwardness,
I'm still here, okay, love it.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
All right.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
I wasn't here.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I don't know. We'll give you.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
We'll give you an opportunity if you want to, if
you want to go off.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I would, I would, I'd love to. I'd love to stay.
Let's write it out. Peyton Paydon's been trying to kick
me off. But no, that's just totally awkward. Is there
not a producer there? They can let him go, somebody
controlling the audio? What was the producer doing?
Speaker 5 (31:52):
Not like they let him go and they just didn't
end the call.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Reminds me of a certain Baseball's Best post game show
from the playoffs this year, or we got a guy
in the air that didn't know he was on the
air and the person in charge.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I was on vacation, I was in Los Angeles. What
if wasn't here.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
What if at five o'clock today, what if at five
o'clock today, Mario and Greg just sat in here at
their headphones on the microphone, were just like hey guys,
They're like, no, they're around, We just wanted to talk
to Wilner with you, or they're over here having.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
A conversation, and Dick Jackson just turns their mics on,
Like that's like there's literally somebody controlling that. Yeah, at ESPN,
nobody has to have the camera on him him go right,
unless it's like an air traffic controller. And the guy
just set him out of here and just left Peyton
and Eli and Shane to their own devices. I mean,
who knows what the hell they were doing. But yeah,
(32:45):
that was pretty damncomfortable. Let's get two more a dick.
Did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
What's that? Dick? All right?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Apparently this is all just like ESPN stuff. During PTI yesterday,
Michael Wilbond was nonchalant about baseball's gambling scandal and federal
indictments against Emmanuel Class and Louis Ortiz.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Going back to what does it say to you?
Speaker 8 (33:05):
If if guilty and there's punishment, so be it. I mean,
you know the rules, it's explained over and over to you,
and you know it's all. I don't care really because
at the highest levels of pyramids in this country, in
this culture, everybody's betting. Now it's on every phone except yours?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
In mind? Don't you want it to be honest?
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Don't you want it to be Does that affect the game?
Speaker 8 (33:29):
Does it tilted in any way that matters to me?
Speaker 7 (33:32):
I know what you're gonna say that it's very small
and it's not throwing the game. But the more these
things happen, it's slope, a sunny slope. But you know what,
let's take.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yeah, I totally, I mean, I totally agree with Corneiser there.
It is a slippery slope.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
A guy spiking a pitch into the dirt to make
two thousand dollars, which is what he was making, is like,
what the hell? But it's a slippery slope, right, So
did I hear that correctly?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Did Michael Wilbon say it's not a big deal because
everybody's gambling, Yes, yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't even
have a response to that.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard him say. And
I like Michael Wilbon, that's the absolute most idiotic, dumbest
thing I've ever heard come out of a mouth at
somebody at ESPN.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
So where does he draw the line?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Okay, if they're playing in the World Series and it's
Game seven, bottom of the ninth and the guy's got
money and he wants to dirt one to influence a
pitching count, I mean, you're you're saying that's okay because
everybody else is gambling. Everybody else does not have influence
over the game.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You moron? Are you kidding me? There's no way he
believes that chance in hell. He's gonna go home.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
He's gonna watch the video. He's gonna say, God, what
the hell was I think I think.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
He's gonna go home. Wow, he's gonna maybe he didn't
understand the question.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, I think he's gonna go home and say, you know,
that didn't come out exactly the way I'm meant ittize.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
That is ridiculous, guys.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I mean, look, if these guys are making bets on
other sports and blah blah blah, even betting on baseball
blah blah blah. But when they're literally accused of throwing games,
impacting games to affect a betting line or a wager
that they've made, there's nothing okay with that.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
You're tugging at the entire integrity of an entire sport.
And this guy says it's not a big deal because
everybody's gambling. Look, if you don't think it's a big deal, fine,
give me another reason why. Besides everybody is gambling, because
that's just dumb.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
My god, would an idiotic take? All right?
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I just don't understand why these guys would do it
for a couple of thousand dollars, like they'd.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Risk their career well for a couple of thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yet, news for you, because they're probably not doing it
for a couple thousand dollars. They're probably doing a lot more,
for a lot more. Well, that's what the report was,
is how much they were getting for each other. There
could be a lot more there. And sometimes guys also
get you know, they get sick.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Gambling is a disease.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
You ever see the natural like a boat gently rocking Okay,
I'm telling you man, these guys get caught up in
this stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
We had that same conversation about those knuckleheads in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
We're gonna break Husky Hawks next on ninety three to
three KJRFM.
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