November 12, 2025 • 33 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain talk about the Seahawks-Rams game including a visit from Mike Florio, who also talks about the Giants, Bills, Klint Kubiak and Joe Burrow’s status before Jackson shares a Fact or Fiction pick, then Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where we go. We're getting ready for the Hawks and
Rams on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm gonna ask Kevin Harland when he comes on the
air with us at five o'clock tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
My wife, you guys know my wife, Gina.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
She was asking me the other day who the best
team in the NFL was, And I actually had to
kind of pause for a second and think about it,
because I think you could probably argue maybe three or
four teams it might be the best team in the NFL.
And I said to her, I said, Babe, there's a
chance that the best team in the NFL might be
right here in Seattle. And she says, oh, you're just
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a homer. So I'm gonna ask Kevin Harlan at five
o'clock tonight if I told you, Dick that the best
team in the NFL right now was the Seattle Seahawks.
And I know Pro Football Focus I believe has I'm
number one in the National Football League. There's some power
rankings you're gonna hear from Steven A. Smith at three
forty five today and he gives you his top five
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in the National Football League?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Am I being a total complete homer? Guys?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
If I go on the air, and I tell you
that the Seahawks are the best team in the NFL
right now.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
No, I only think you're being a homer if you
say they're clearly the best team in the NFL right now.
Because the Rams, the Eagles, the Lions, the Seahawks, I
think all can claim best in the NFC and maybe
even best in the NFL. And then you look at
the AFC, the Patriots, the Colts, the Chiefs, even though
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they're five and four. I mean, I guess you can
say the Broncos because they're eight and two. I don't
think they're that good, right. But that's the crazy thing
about twenty twenty five. I can't remember a season where
we were this deep into the year and you could
say there are legitimately thirteen or fourteen teams that could
shut their eyes and envision themselves in the super Bowl,
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and we're in November twelfth. That never happens.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
In Well, I was actually tying to Kevin and he's
got the stat I don't know exactly what it is.
We're talking this morning over text, and he said he
was handed a note during the game on Sunday or
after the game. Sorry, last Monday night, because he was
doing the Eagles Packers game for radio that this is
the first time since whenever that every team in the
NFL this early in the year already has two losses.
Every team, like normally there's either an undefeated team or
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a team with one loss. Every team's got two losses.
So I think the parody in the NFL is ridiculous.
The NFL does parody better than anybody, and they're doing
it big time right now. So I just think with
this Seahawk football team, man, the way their defense is playing,
and I'm so impressed that they keep losing people and
it doesn't matter. I'm not breaking new ground here with
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this opinion. I think we all understand what the Hawks
were down, and they were down right up the freaking gut.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
They were down their catcher, their pitcher, their second baseman,
and their center fielder. In this game with Jaron Reid,
Ernest Jones and Julia Love, it was crazy, the guts
of their defense right up the spine. None of them
played and it didn't freaking matter against Arizona. Now maybe
it'll matter on Sunday against the Rams. We'll find out.
Ernest Jones sent out some tweet last night. I don't
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even know what the hell it was.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
It was wrestler waking up and saying like, I'm back right.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
No, I know that, But is he's saying that he's
playing on Sunday. Yes, that's what he's pay That's what
I hate. That's what I gets.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
If you want to go with that, then go with that.
I mean, I hate what athletes do this, man, I
really hate. It drives me nuts. I hated it ten
years ago. I hate it now. I mean, I just imagine,
like Doug Balbyn, Jermaine Kurs just sitting on their deck
on a Tuesday night, watch me mess with all of
the world and put this thing on Twitter and have
people lose their minds and try to figure out what
the hell it means. I saw where Sean McVay said
the other day he'd be surprised if Devanta Adams did
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not play in the game on Sunday. So you're gonna
have some guys back, You're gonna have a potential NFC
Championship matchup. This is I'm looking at this game on Sunday, guys,
as part one of a two part game that will
decide the NFC West title.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
This weekend.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yes, And I think it's even more of a bonus
if the Seahawks win, because they already have the tiebreaker
over the Rams with by one game and they division,
and they would have a road win over the Rams.
So I think it's I think it behooves the Rams
to make sure they get this one. And I'm fully
confident that the Seahawks can go down there and win
this game. There is only one thing that just keeps
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bothering me, and I want it and I want it
to be.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Over with.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yes, Walgeren's two for one and and this is totally
over if the Seahawks win this game, this worry. Here's
the list of the quarterbacks of the Seahawks have beaten this year,
Mariota Brissette, Kyler Rattler, Lawrence Stroud, and Aaron Rodgers. Not
one top half quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Not one.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Now, you can only beat who you faced. And they
lost a party and they lost a Baker. So I mean,
I'm not saying that they're not a great team because
they haven't.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
They just haven't yet.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I want them to beat a top five quarterback in
the NFL, and they.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Have an opportunity to do that on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, I mean I I yeah, Okay, I just I
wish when you did this on the air that you
would compare and contrast it to what every other team
and contention in the NFL is done, because it makes
it sound like the Seahawks are a big, fat sore thumb,
like some outlier and they haven't beaten anybody yet, right,
And maybe.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
That's the case.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Maybe if you did the actual numbers and you gave
him to me, like I'm just taking a quick glance
at the Rams. The Rams were seven to two. Same,
they've well, they've beaten Lamar and they've beaten Daniel Jones.
Actually did Lamar play?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Lamar didn't play in that game. He did not, Okay,
so they just had beaten Daniel Jones. It'd be better
than Jones.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
J Cooper Rush was the quarterback when they beat the
Ravens and they beat Daniel Jones and they beat him
twenty seven to twenty. Right, I mean, so one game
against the guy, and the game was at home against
the Rams obviously, and Jones threw a couple of picks.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
In that game.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
But hey, I mean, everyone's waiting for something. Nobody wants
to proclaim anything. They all want to wait for disaster
to strike, Steven A wants to wait for Sam Darnold
to piss himself in the playoffs, and you want to
find out what happens when they face a real quarterback.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
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Speaker 1 (06:43):
My good friend Michael Florio, how are you pal?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Hello, Ah, good to hear your voice.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Let's talk about the Seahawks.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Pretty impressive back to back weeks, just annihilating Arizona and
the Commanders. I saw you moving them up your rankings
and your power the poll. Sounds like the league is
starting to take notice that of what's happening out here
in Seattle.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Well on the opportunity. The Big Ones comes this weekend
in a game that for some reason is in that
late afternoon regional window, the four h five Eastern one
oh five Pacific start that'll be broadcast to a portion
of the country. You know they do the flexing now
for Sunday, Mondays and Thursdays, but it doesn't start until
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a few weeks from now for Monday and Thursday. I
think one thing they need to do going forwards, they
need to be careful about the games they schedule in November,
because by November the bad teams are known. Why do
we have the Raiders in back to back frimetime games?
Why why are we gonna have the Raiders and Cowboys
Monday Night? When there are five or six games that
could have been moved from this Sunday that would be
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far better, including what I think is one of the
best games of the day other than Lions Eagles and
became Peacocks seven o'clock Eastern, four o'clock Pacific coverage begins
on those two platforms, But other than that one, this
is the game of the weekend because you look at
these two games, all right, whoever wins Lions Eagle and
whoever wins Seahawks Rams, those two teams are going to
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be for now penciled in as the primary number one
seed contenders in the NFC.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Totally agree, And you know, I'm just not ready to
steal a term from Denny Green. I'm not ready to
crown their ass until they face a quarterback the caliber
of a quarterback they'll actually face in January in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Is that an unreasonable position?
Speaker 5 (08:31):
No, No, not at all. Wan Matthew Stafford is having
an MVP season. You've got nineteen touchdown passes and no picks.
Thet'll last three games. First guy ever to have three
straight games with four more touchdown passes and no interceptions.
So this is a high end team. This is the
team that's currently number one in the all important and
completely binding PFC Power rankings in the LA Rams. They've
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got a great defense. They've got four games already this
year they've held the opponent to ten points or fewer,
so they're balanced, they're they're good. And the Seahawks, if
they can win this one, yeah, people are going to
be paying attention and they're going to move up from six.
They probably should be higher than six. But you know,
there's an old school ap UPI College Football poll field
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of this, where as you're climbing, no matter how good
you are, you gotta wait for the teams in front
of you to lose. And that's kind of where the
Seahawks are right now. They're waiting for the teams in
front of him to lose as they keep winning.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
What do you make of what happened in New York
over the weekend? Brian Dable fired Jamis Winston elevated to
number two. He'll start because Jackson Dart's got the concussion,
and that means all Russell Wilson it's going to be
the third stringer. I don't know if you saw the
video of his postgame interaction with the media mic after
the game, but he did.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
The guy just looks freaking beat down, dude, beat down.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Is this the end of the line you think for
Russell Wilson well as a starter?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Yes, Now, if he's willing to continue to collect an
NFL paycheck to be a number two or a number
three quarterback, then he could make the minimum or four
or five million. I don't know. I was surprised that
the Giants signed and the Steelers wanted nothing to do
with them, And there's connections between the two franchises, Pittsburgh
and New York, family connections. I don't know what the
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Giants did by way of their homework on finding out
why the Steelers didn't want Russell Wilson. You know, the
Steelers initially said that between Justin Fields and Russell Wilson,
eight want to keep one of the other. And then
the moment Justin Field signed with the Jets, there was
no further mention of Russell Wilson. So I think it's
over for him as a starter, without questions. It already
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was over for him even before he started a single
game this year. I don't know why or how that happened.
And hey, he's had his career, he's been very effective.
You know, he's one of those guys who said he
wanted to play until he's forty five. Father time is
not going to allow you to play until forty five.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
If your game is.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Heavily premised on mobility, if it's your arm with minimum mobility,
you can make it past the age of forty. But
we're seeing with Russell Wilson, once the legs start to go,
the game goes with it.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Is Dabel destined for a coordinator position? Or if Buffalo
fails to reach their goals this year, would they consider
replacing Sean McDermott with Dabol and reuniting him with Josh Allen.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Well, there's never been any tangible noise out of Buffalo
that owner Terry Pegoula is sufficiently bothered by the annual
failure to get to a Super Bowl to make changes.
But I think there are fair questions to be asked
about who's to blame for the inability of the Bills
to maximize the fact that they've got a generational talent
in Josh Allen, And you could argue they don't have
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enough help around him, which is a GM Brandon Bean problem.
You can argue that the coaching isn't good enough, which
is a head coach Sean McDermott problem. You could send
them both out the door and start over again. And
I'm a big proponent in no half measures when it
comes to coaching GM. I think that to have the
most properly functioning organization, it has to be both coach
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and GM stay, or both coach and GM go, because
if either guy believes there's an avenue to safety, if
the other guy takes the fall, when things start to
go sideways, and for most teams they go sideways at
some point, each guy has an incentive to try to
blame the other and that creates a mess. And that's
what the Giants did, That's what the Dolphins did recently,
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and I just don't like that. I'm not saying Joe
Shane should be fired by the Giants. I'm just saying
you either fire both or you fire neither. And that's
going to be a question in Buffalo if Terry Pergula
decides that eight years Josh Allen and no Super Bowl
appearance means it's time to make changes. And hey, there's
going to be some names available. You've already got Dave
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Ball out there. Matt Laflour could be in trouble in
Green Bay if they don't make the playoffs because the
new president of the team had policy has said no
new contracts this year from Lafloor or the GM Bryan Gudikountz,
and they're signed through twenty twenty six and policies made
it clear he's not a fan of lame duck season.
So they're going to be up or out at this year.
So you never know who's going to be available for
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the Giants. You never know where the job is going
to come open. He could be a crazy coach thereself.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Mike Florio with US Courtesia simply Seattle every Wednesday at
three ten here on the program, and Mike, I think
there's a little bit of a dearth of real, super
sexy candidates to be head coaches these days, and not
just in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, good word, I look it up by it.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, the same thing in college football, right There's just
not a lot of big name candidates. And I wonder
when you have a team like the Seahawks, who has
the second best point differential in football. Dick and I
have both met Clint Kubiak in person, he might be
a great coordinator. I don't think he's got the goods
to command the locker room in the NFL, though personality
wise as a head coach, how much of his name
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do you think we're going to hear for head coaching vacancies.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
If the offense in Seattle keeps this.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Up, I think he will be out there and he
will get interviews because of said dearth as it relates
to candidates for both NFL jobs and big time college jobs. Look,
there's no Ben Johnson this year. There's no clear and
obvious guy who's been on the radar screen for multiple
seasons and now it's his time to ascend. And Clint
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Kubiak isn't anyone we expected to be on the radar
this year. And this is how it happens. You know,
the owners really don't know what to do and they
don't want to admit to anyone, including themselves, they don't
know what to do. So the media is the one
that gives life to these candidates and one of the
sneaky persuasive tools. And it shows you how much power
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they have, the people who determine the shots during games,
and how many sideline images or booth images. We're going
to have of coordinators that can take on the life
of its own and that can create something out of
nothing for some of these guys. But when you look
at what the Seahawks offense is doing, Yes, there's going
to be some interviews for Clint Kubiak, and then it's
up to him to convince an owner to give it
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a shot. But there's always a risk the coordinator who's
never been a head coach before doesn't have the skill set.
It's a very different job, and for every guy that
makes it, the guy that never should have had the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Mike, do you really buy the Joe Burrow's going to
come back a month early and play on Thanksgiving? Well?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
I do, because look, and I don't want to be
any more of a jerk than I already am. But
we just accept these initial reports that come out about
a guy's expected absences gospel truth. I mean, the insiders
just passing along whatever the agent tells them. You could
tell them anything and they'll just rush to Twitter with it.
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Because the whole objective is to be the first one
to thumb out the text or copy and paste it.
As some of them do, because I know because I've
gotten the same text and I've seen it word for word,
copied and pasted into someone's Twitter message. But that's all
it's about. It's not about accuracy. You know, when JJ
McCarthy hurt his ankle, the prevailing report two to four weeks, well,
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we ended up missing seven weeks before we played again,
And the initial reports for Burrow was mid December at
the earliest. Breathels reporting Monday Night Football has time, Mitch
just sever at the earliest, and by the time the
guy comes back, we've all forgotten it. And I think
there is a chance he's going to come back, because
when you open that twenty one day window to practice
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for a guy who's on IR, if he isn't added
to the fifty three man roster at the end of
the twenty one days, he goes to the i R
for the rest of the season. So I don't think
the Bengals are playing a game here. I think they're
getting this guy ready to play Thanksgiving Night on NBCM
Peacock Ravens Bengals, and the Bengals actually have a way
to pull an inside straight and win that division. They're
a game behind the Ravens, two games behind the Steelers.
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They beating the Steelers. You get a crack out of
it again this weekend. They still have two games against
the Ravens. They could win enough games.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
To win the division.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
And no matter how bad those teams are, one of
those teams is going goes to the playoff game.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
How much trouble is Sean mcdermoden in Buffalo you think, honestly.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
We're alre He talked about it. Man, Are you not listening? Yeah,
I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
But you mentioned Steven A.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Smith's Solitaire game.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I actually am playing Solitaire on my phone. I mean,
do you think he's going to get fired?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I want you to. Oh, that's what I'm asking you.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I think if they don't make the playoffs, he's got
a real problem. And if they do anything other than
get to the divisional round, it looks we don't know
because there's only one person who has a vote. This
is the reality. The owner of the team is the
one who makes the decision, and the owner of the
team is the one who has no accountability to anyone
unless than until the fan base will collectively rise up
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and deprive itself.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Of the thing.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
It loves like a family member and hates like a
family member, as the case may be. They're still going
to make their money. Jed York said it after they
did the Harbaugh out Jim Ton Sula out ship Kelly
out at a press conference. He said, you don't dismiss
the owner, and that's the problem. So the owner can
do whatever he wants. The fans can be up in arms,
they can do a march, they can they can try
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to launch a boycott, and it's not going to go
because those fans love that team and they'll accept whatever
the owner decides to do. And it's going to come
down to what Terry Pogola decides to do.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
You think Clint Kubia gets any run for a head
And I'm kidding, Hey, Mike, you're the man, great stuff
and we're talking a week, buddy, Appreciate it. Pal, All right,
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Speaker 2 (18:35):
All right, we're back on a busy Wednesday. Petros joins
at four, Kevin Harlan joins at five. But Dick would
like to correct the record.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Correct the record on the quarterback, So we did. I
mentioned Mariota. Jaden Daniels did start that game, so that
is incorrect. However, I don't think any Seahawks fan that
saw that Jade and Daniels would think it is the
Jade and Daniels of last season.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Well, it's still Jade Daniels, you know. So whatever in
his first game back from.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Him increases your odds, decreases your odds of being proven rights.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
It made me feel better.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
This is also this is also part of what we
talked about yesterday, and I will be honest with you,
I feel like you're.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Kind of feeding into it right now a little bit.
What's just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
We talked yesterday about Sam darn and all the people
that are waiting for him to fall apart right in
the playoffs, right, Like Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Smith was on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
You go hear him by the way at three forty
five to day telling me the times, well you've never
seen Sam Donald coump playoff time, to which I thought
to myself, does this guy have like five or six
playoff games under his belt?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Not just the one? Just the one?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
So this narrative of him being a third in the
postseason has apparently developed nationwide because of one game. So
if they go out on Sunday and Matt Stafford has
a good game and does what nobody's really done yet, well,
I guess what Baker did maybe against the Seahawk tea
did they stake?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
See what happens when they play a good quarterback?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
They suck and Guys, I'm expecting Matt Stafford to have
a pretty decent game. I'm not expecting him to light
the Seahawks up because I would always take the great
defense over the great offense every single time. There's a
reason why Monday we all agreed on the under in
this game, right. But if Matt Stafford, who might be
the MVP, goes out there and has a good game
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against the Hawks, does that mean all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
The Hawks defense is a frost So right now, let
me give you this.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Matthew Stafford passes for let's say, two hundred and seventy yards,
two touchdowns and a pick.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
You take that right now? Yeah, give me the numbers again, Jackson.
Two seventy two touchdowns in one pickin the Seahawks defense
can be better than do they win the game twenty
seven to twenty three.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
My point here is this is that that for me,
like I was talking about this in a friend group,
That's why I had those numbers so easily. Is is
the element of that seems like a pretty reasonable thought
of what he could do. And at the end of
the day, if Matthew Stafford comes away with just two
touchdowns and he turned the ball over, that should.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Give our offense a chance to win the game.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I better not score a rushing touchdown then, because I
think if the Rams score three touchdowns we lose.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Really, yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
We just said the Unders a lot, so forty eight
and a half they can win the game.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Think the Rams would score three touchdowns and lose the
game because they can win the game twenty four to
twenty one. And if there's a.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Very slim window that they can score three touchdowns and lose,
and lose the game in an under I.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Would not agree. And look, you may be proven right
on Sunday, but I I look, if they score four touchdowns,
I'm way more nervous than three touchdowns. I mean, what
were what was the yards number that you gave us
for Sunday? To seventy two touch one he averages? He
averages two seated, he shouldn't get his averages. That's exactly right.
(21:48):
He just broke it right down there. So and he
averages basically, you know, two and a half touchdowns a game.
I'm giving you his average if you hold Matt Stafford
to his average and this offense to their average. The
Seahawks defense, look again, this is we can we can
honestly say this without without debate. This is the best
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quarterback they face this year, right without pa So the
numbers should be higher.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
For the opponent.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
They should be if you're facing the best quarterback you've
seen this year and maybe the best one you'll see
all year. If there's going to be an outlier for
the Seahawks schedule defensively and the stats for seventeen weeks,
it should be Sunday in LA.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Right, and back to your Darnold point. I mean, I
just think this is a really unique year where most
of the playoff, most of the Super Bowl contenders are
actually better defensively than they are offensively.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Especially the NFC.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
The Seahawks are that way, the Rams are that way,
the Eagles are that way, the Packers are that way,
like almost every like.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
The Lions aren't. But it's close.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
But most NFC, big time Super Bowl teams have awesome defenses.
So Sam darry is not going to walk into the
NFC playoffs and throw for three touchdowns of three hundred yards.
Just not gonna happen. Not because he's not good. Well,
just those defenses are great. I just think this, Dick.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I think to Jackson's point, kind of what would it
take You're asking, what would it take to kind of
make you accept it?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
If if Sam, if Matt Stafford does to the Seahawk
defense what Baker Mayfield did, that's gonna be a big down, Yeah,
big downer. Because again, guys, like I told you a
month ago when that game got played, the Star is
the scheme for me. The Star is the scheme, especially
with the guys being out, and the scheme should never
allow Baker Mayfield to do what he did in that game,
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when he threw for three hundred and eighty yards and
two touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That should not happens an outlier. It's unbelievable that can happen.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So I think for the Hawks again, I'm expecting Matt
Stafford to have a good game. I'm just hoping he
doesn't have an elite game, because if he does have
an elite game, then you gotta wonder. I think at
that point, okay, what happens if they do face and
but again, then I start to think about things like
what does McDonald do to fix it? Because he fixed
whatever happened versus Tampa. I can tell you that.
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Speaker 1 (24:43):
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Speaker 1 (24:54):
All right, I'm turning away.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I'm looking at it going not really, but I want you,
young man.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Have some confidence. That's the way I'm talking to you.
What do you got. I'm confident in John Wilner.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I'm confident in teams coming off of losses that they
shouldn't have had. And I'm confident in Demond Williams Huskies
minus sixteen and a half against a worthless, despicable, embarrassing,
disgustingly bad sorry Mike Gas Purdue.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Boiler Yeah, he doesn't give a damn. That's the one, April,
You're it.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Your Purdue boiler Makers are disgustingly bad this year, and
the you Dove is going to beat them by more
than seventeenth.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Then we have a.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Defensive lineman that went to Perdue, that played for the
Seahawks two back in the day. This is the guy
that I'm thinking of, somebody I'm thinking of. But anyway,
I thought it was thirteen and a half or is
it sixteen and a half?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
You sure about that? Terrible?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Terrible?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I mean, obviously there's just a couple of concerns about
some injuries, but I don't think it should matter. I
think coming off that game on Saturday, I think Jed's pissed.
I think he wants to like it up on Saturday
at home. De Mont Williams is a totally different quarterback
at Husky Stadium than he is away from Husky Stadium.
And don't forget, by the way, you know who the
defensive coordinator is for the Huskies right now. So the
Purdue's head coach last year and Ryan Walters, and obviously
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transfer portal changes it a little bit, but I would
think he would know this defense and their personnel in
this offense better than anybody. And on top of that,
the new head coach of Purdue is Barry Odom, who
Ryan Walters coached with at Missouri. He knows exactly what
he's up against this weekend. So we like the dogs
minus the points against Purdue.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Here's the Huskies scoring offensively at Husky Stadium this year,
thirty eight seventy Ohio State six. This is not Ohio
State thirty eight and forty two of it. They're gonna
put up forty plus and so Jackson, all they got
to do is.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Hold him to twenty four easy and they're going to
win the game. Yeah, and their defense is easily good.
Oh god, sixteen in a row.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
They've lost sixteen consecutive games in the Big Ten. Last
team they beat was Indiana before they hired Kurt Signetti. Wow,
that's the last time Indian lost a Big Ten game.
They fired their coach, they lost to Purdue, and they
hired Kurt Signetti and they can't freaking lose ever since then.
So you dub minus the points factor fiction four nine
four to five one. Every day at three thirty five,
we give you a game. It's your responsibility to text
(27:24):
in fact. If you agree fiction, if you disagree to
four nine four five one, we're gonna break a little
fun with audio. Coming next on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
It's now time for Softy in Dig's Fun with Audio.
Speaker 10 (27:39):
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Now let's have some fun with audio.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
All right, here we go on a busy Wednesday afternoon.
Petros will join us in a matter of minutes. Right
here on ninety three three KJARFM. It's time though, for
a little fun with audio slash. Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Dave? What's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yesterday on Fun with Audio, we heard Steven A. Smith
doubting the Seahawks because of Sam Darnold's one bad playoff game. Well,
yesterday on First Tank, he changed his tune as he
ranked his top three teams in the NFL right now,
starting with the Colts in the three hole.
Speaker 10 (28:19):
Now they suffered against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I can't let
them all, but Jonathan Taylor is a top candidate for
the league MVP.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Honess, just like say Kwam Balk he was last year.
Speaker 10 (28:30):
You can run, you could throw, you got a good
offensive line, you got a defensive point out to him,
you got the best record in the NFL. Gotta give
him some love. I got him top to give me that.
I don't have his top two though. Give me a
number two please, right here, the Los Angeles, damn Bruyn.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
I don't like what.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Your brother's doing. I see what they're doing right here, y'all.
Don't have any problem with.
Speaker 10 (28:54):
That being top three last week.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Don't act like you're doing something different right now at
number one.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Give it to me.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Wow, Seattle Seahawks with that.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
Defense, deir physicality, Sam Donald being a leading candidate for
league MVP and jig but being that dude picking up
you know, Shi, The brothers right.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Now have to be watched out for, all right.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
So yesterday he said, you gotta watch out for Sam
Donald come playoff time, turning into a pumpkin. The other
day he said, you gotta watch out for Sam Donald
to win the whole damn thing.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Now. In his defense, a little bit bull is on crack.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
It's possible, he thinks, for the best team in the
NFL right now, but then come playoff time, Donald's gonna
pee his pants and the Hawks are gonna fall apart.
That is possible. But I did find it a little
bit interesting that I'm back to back days. He told
us to watch out for the bad Sam Donald. Then
the next day he said Hawks for the number one
team right now the National Football.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Were not entirely surprising he would do that. I am
surprised that he has that.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Anybody at ESPN would have a team from Seattle number
one that hasn't already won a Super Bowl or something
like that. So that's a that there wasn't Dallas, to
be honest with, Yes, that's impressive. And you know, Coward
did is this week and he's got the same top two.
He's just got him in a different order. He's got
the Rams one, He's got the Seahawks two.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
This is truly the game of the year.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Who did he have at five and four? Do you
remember on that list? Because the Colts were number three?
I think New England was on that list. Yeah, maybe
Kansas City, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
But how about that?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
For all you steven A haters out there, he's got
the Hawks as the number one team in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
All right, hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Dick?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Former NFL pass rusher Chris Long hosts The green Light
podcast and said this about the Seahawks on yesterday's show.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
Mike McDonald might end up being one of the dudes.
I mean, he's already well on his way to being
one of the dudes. And for Seattle, let them get
home field advantage and you will be sorry. Let them
get home field advantage. You will be sorry because that
place is hell to play in. In the start of
McDonald's tenure, they were not great at home, and now
all of a sudden they're starting to jump people at
(31:00):
home in the first half and then put it in
cruise control. I'll be interested to look at the All
twenty two to see how much the Shaheed presence changes
the way you know, defenses played this group, well, at
least John Gannett how he played this group because yeah,
one more weapon makes him scary.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
By the way, Toyo random, we had that conversation about
purduing factor of fiction. I just realized to the Seahawk
defensive tackle was that went to produce Craig Terrell. Yeah,
I cannot believe it took me that long to figure
that out. Back to Chris Long, Yeah, I mean, do
we still subscribe to the whole Only way the Hawks
can get there is if they have home field thing.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I mean, they are eleven and one twelve games on
the road, So.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I do not believe they will win multiple playoff road games. Really,
how many teams they don't need to do multiple playoff
road games? You would if you're not the division champion.
Speaker 9 (31:48):
You will.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
They don't need to.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
But for years and years and years, it was always
you got to get the number one seat, got to
get home field, got to play the NFC championship, right.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Jackson at home?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yes, because every year they've gone, they've played it as whole.
I still believe that, Okay, I still believe. So you
you're saying you don't think the Hawks can win the
NFC Championship on somebody else's field.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
That's what you're saying. I know what did I just say?
I don't know what you said? You did you hear
what I said? You said you don't think they'll win
multiple road playoffs?
Speaker 9 (32:17):
Right?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
And then I said, they don't have to. They don't
have to.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
They don't they don't need the number one. They don't
have to win multiple games. They have to win maybe
one game on the road.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
That's right. No, correct, do you think they can win
the NFC championship on the road.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yes, if they're two seed, I think they could win
at Philadelphia or the Rams.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Well, we wouldn't be the Rams and Philadelphia or Detroit or.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Probably Well that's the whole point is that Again, it
was always about you got to get the number one seed,
man got to play the NFC tattle game at home.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
And I don't know if I believe that right now
with this team, But do.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You do you agree that they're not going to win
it from the five seed right with all the parody
in the NFL right now in that three yeah, but
that's my point. You're you're taking a fifty to fifty
game in three weeks in a row and winning all
of them.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I would not bet on it, but we've seen it.
The Giants did it. There's also way more parody now,
there is a buttload of parody. I mean, we can't
sit here and say this thing is wide open and
there's nine or ten teams that can win it and
then totally dismiss the idea of a wildcard team winning
the title or at least making the Super Bowl. I
(33:25):
think with the parody in the NFL right now, normally
i'd agree with you with a parody in the NFL.
Right now it might be possible this year more than ever.
All Right, we're gonna break Petros Papagas. He's gonna join
us next on ninety three three KJARFM.
Where we go. We're getting ready for the Hawks and
Rams on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm gonna ask Kevin Harland when he comes on the
air with us at five o'clock tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
My wife, you guys know my wife, Gina.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
She was asking me the other day who the best
team in the NFL was, And I actually had to
kind of pause for a second and think about it,
because I think you could probably argue maybe three or
four teams it might be the best team in the NFL.
And I said to her, I said, Babe, there's a
chance that the best team in the NFL might be
right here in Seattle. And she says, oh, you're just
(00:30):
a homer. So I'm gonna ask Kevin Harlan at five
o'clock tonight if I told you, Dick that the best
team in the NFL right now was the Seattle Seahawks.
And I know Pro Football Focus I believe has I'm
number one in the National Football League. There's some power
rankings you're gonna hear from Steven A. Smith at three
forty five today and he gives you his top five
(00:51):
in the National Football League?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Am I being a total complete homer? Guys?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
If I go on the air, and I tell you
that the Seahawks are the best team in the NFL
right now.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
No, I only think you're being a homer if you
say they're clearly the best team in the NFL right now.
Because the Rams, the Eagles, the Lions, the Seahawks, I
think all can claim best in the NFC and maybe
even best in the NFL. And then you look at
the AFC, the Patriots, the Colts, the Chiefs, even though
(01:21):
they're five and four. I mean, I guess you can
say the Broncos because they're eight and two. I don't
think they're that good, right. But that's the crazy thing
about twenty twenty five. I can't remember a season where
we were this deep into the year and you could
say there are legitimately thirteen or fourteen teams that could
shut their eyes and envision themselves in the super Bowl,
(01:41):
and we're in November twelfth. That never happens.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
In Well, I was actually tying to Kevin and he's
got the stat I don't know exactly what it is.
We're talking this morning over text, and he said he
was handed a note during the game on Sunday or
after the game. Sorry, last Monday night, because he was
doing the Eagles Packers game for radio that this is
the first time since whenever that every team in the
NFL this early in the year already has two losses.
Every team, like normally there's either an undefeated team or
(02:06):
a team with one loss. Every team's got two losses.
So I think the parody in the NFL is ridiculous.
The NFL does parody better than anybody, and they're doing
it big time right now. So I just think with
this Seahawk football team, man, the way their defense is playing,
and I'm so impressed that they keep losing people and
it doesn't matter. I'm not breaking new ground here with
(02:27):
this opinion. I think we all understand what the Hawks
were down, and they were down right up the freaking gut.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
They were down their catcher, their pitcher, their second baseman,
and their center fielder. In this game with Jaron Reid,
Ernest Jones and Julia Love, it was crazy, the guts
of their defense right up the spine. None of them
played and it didn't freaking matter against Arizona. Now maybe
it'll matter on Sunday against the Rams. We'll find out.
Ernest Jones sent out some tweet last night. I don't
(02:57):
even know what the hell it was.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
It was wrestler waking up and saying like, I'm back right.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
No, I know that, But is he's saying that he's
playing on Sunday. Yes, that's what he's pay That's what
I hate. That's what I gets.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
If you want to go with that, then go with that.
I mean, I hate what athletes do this, man, I
really hate. It drives me nuts. I hated it ten
years ago. I hate it now. I mean, I just imagine,
like Doug Balbyn, Jermaine Kurs just sitting on their deck
on a Tuesday night, watch me mess with all of
the world and put this thing on Twitter and have
people lose their minds and try to figure out what
the hell it means. I saw where Sean McVay said
the other day he'd be surprised if Devanta Adams did
(03:30):
not play in the game on Sunday. So you're gonna
have some guys back, You're gonna have a potential NFC
Championship matchup. This is I'm looking at this game on Sunday, guys,
as part one of a two part game that will
decide the NFC West title.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
This weekend.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yes, And I think it's even more of a bonus
if the Seahawks win, because they already have the tiebreaker
over the Rams with by one game and they division,
and they would have a road win over the Rams.
So I think it's I think it behooves the Rams
to make sure they get this one. And I'm fully
confident that the Seahawks can go down there and win
this game. There is only one thing that just keeps
(04:06):
bothering me, and I want it and I want it
to be.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Over with.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yes, Walgeren's two for one and and this is totally
over if the Seahawks win this game, this worry. Here's
the list of the quarterbacks of the Seahawks have beaten this year,
Mariota Brissette, Kyler Rattler, Lawrence Stroud, and Aaron Rodgers. Not
one top half quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Not one.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Now, you can only beat who you faced. And they
lost a party and they lost a Baker. So I mean,
I'm not saying that they're not a great team because
they haven't.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
They just haven't yet.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I want them to beat a top five quarterback in
the NFL, and they.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Have an opportunity to do that on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, I mean I I yeah, Okay, I just I
wish when you did this on the air that you
would compare and contrast it to what every other team
and contention in the NFL is done, because it makes
it sound like the Seahawks are a big, fat sore thumb,
like some outlier and they haven't beaten anybody yet, right,
And maybe.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
That's the case.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Maybe if you did the actual numbers and you gave
him to me, like I'm just taking a quick glance
at the Rams. The Rams were seven to two. Same,
they've well, they've beaten Lamar and they've beaten Daniel Jones.
Actually did Lamar play?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Lamar didn't play in that game. He did not, Okay,
so they just had beaten Daniel Jones. It'd be better
than Jones.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
J Cooper Rush was the quarterback when they beat the
Ravens and they beat Daniel Jones and they beat him
twenty seven to twenty. Right, I mean, so one game
against the guy, and the game was at home against
the Rams obviously, and Jones threw a couple of picks.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
In that game.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
But hey, I mean, everyone's waiting for something. Nobody wants
to proclaim anything. They all want to wait for disaster
to strike, Steven A wants to wait for Sam Darnold
to piss himself in the playoffs, and you want to
find out what happens when they face a real quarterback.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
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Speaker 1 (06:43):
My good friend Michael Florio, how are you pal?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
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Speaker 1 (06:50):
Let's talk about the Seahawks.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
Man.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Pretty impressive back to back weeks, just annihilating Arizona and
the Commanders. I saw you moving them up your rankings
and your power the poll. Sounds like the league is
starting to take notice that of what's happening out here
in Seattle.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Well on the opportunity. The Big Ones comes this weekend
in a game that for some reason is in that
late afternoon regional window, the four h five Eastern one
oh five Pacific start that'll be broadcast to a portion
of the country. You know they do the flexing now
for Sunday, Mondays and Thursdays, but it doesn't start until
(07:29):
a few weeks from now for Monday and Thursday. I
think one thing they need to do going forwards, they
need to be careful about the games they schedule in November,
because by November the bad teams are known. Why do
we have the Raiders in back to back frimetime games?
Why why are we gonna have the Raiders and Cowboys
Monday Night? When there are five or six games that
could have been moved from this Sunday that would be
(07:49):
far better, including what I think is one of the
best games of the day other than Lions Eagles and
became Peacocks seven o'clock Eastern, four o'clock Pacific coverage begins
on those two platforms, But other than that one, this
is the game of the weekend because you look at
these two games, all right, whoever wins Lions Eagle and
whoever wins Seahawks Rams, those two teams are going to
(08:10):
be for now penciled in as the primary number one
seed contenders in the NFC.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Totally agree, And you know, I'm just not ready to
steal a term from Denny Green. I'm not ready to
crown their ass until they face a quarterback the caliber
of a quarterback they'll actually face in January in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Is that an unreasonable position?
Speaker 5 (08:31):
No, No, not at all. Wan Matthew Stafford is having
an MVP season. You've got nineteen touchdown passes and no picks.
Thet'll last three games. First guy ever to have three
straight games with four more touchdown passes and no interceptions.
So this is a high end team. This is the
team that's currently number one in the all important and
completely binding PFC Power rankings in the LA Rams. They've
(08:52):
got a great defense. They've got four games already this
year they've held the opponent to ten points or fewer,
so they're balanced, they're they're good. And the Seahawks, if
they can win this one, yeah, people are going to
be paying attention and they're going to move up from six.
They probably should be higher than six. But you know,
there's an old school ap UPI College Football poll field
(09:15):
of this, where as you're climbing, no matter how good
you are, you gotta wait for the teams in front
of you to lose. And that's kind of where the
Seahawks are right now. They're waiting for the teams in
front of him to lose as they keep winning.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
What do you make of what happened in New York
over the weekend? Brian Dable fired Jamis Winston elevated to
number two. He'll start because Jackson Dart's got the concussion,
and that means all Russell Wilson it's going to be
the third stringer. I don't know if you saw the
video of his postgame interaction with the media mic after
the game, but he did.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
The guy just looks freaking beat down, dude, beat down.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Is this the end of the line you think for
Russell Wilson well as a starter?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Yes, Now, if he's willing to continue to collect an
NFL paycheck to be a number two or a number
three quarterback, then he could make the minimum or four
or five million. I don't know. I was surprised that
the Giants signed and the Steelers wanted nothing to do
with them, And there's connections between the two franchises, Pittsburgh
and New York, family connections. I don't know what the
(10:13):
Giants did by way of their homework on finding out
why the Steelers didn't want Russell Wilson. You know, the
Steelers initially said that between Justin Fields and Russell Wilson,
eight want to keep one of the other. And then
the moment Justin Field signed with the Jets, there was
no further mention of Russell Wilson. So I think it's
over for him as a starter, without questions. It already
(10:34):
was over for him even before he started a single
game this year. I don't know why or how that happened.
And hey, he's had his career, he's been very effective.
You know, he's one of those guys who said he
wanted to play until he's forty five. Father time is
not going to allow you to play until forty five.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
If your game is.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Heavily premised on mobility, if it's your arm with minimum mobility,
you can make it past the age of forty. But
we're seeing with Russell Wilson, once the legs start to go,
the game goes with it.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Is Dabel destined for a coordinator position? Or if Buffalo
fails to reach their goals this year, would they consider
replacing Sean McDermott with Dabol and reuniting him with Josh Allen.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Well, there's never been any tangible noise out of Buffalo
that owner Terry Pegoula is sufficiently bothered by the annual
failure to get to a Super Bowl to make changes.
But I think there are fair questions to be asked
about who's to blame for the inability of the Bills
to maximize the fact that they've got a generational talent
in Josh Allen, And you could argue they don't have
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enough help around him, which is a GM Brandon Bean problem.
You can argue that the coaching isn't good enough, which
is a head coach Sean McDermott problem. You could send
them both out the door and start over again. And
I'm a big proponent in no half measures when it
comes to coaching GM. I think that to have the
most properly functioning organization, it has to be both coach
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and GM stay, or both coach and GM go, because
if either guy believes there's an avenue to safety, if
the other guy takes the fall, when things start to
go sideways, and for most teams they go sideways at
some point, each guy has an incentive to try to
blame the other and that creates a mess. And that's
what the Giants did, That's what the Dolphins did recently,
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and I just don't like that. I'm not saying Joe
Shane should be fired by the Giants. I'm just saying
you either fire both or you fire neither. And that's
going to be a question in Buffalo if Terry Pergula
decides that eight years Josh Allen and no Super Bowl
appearance means it's time to make changes. And hey, there's
going to be some names available. You've already got Dave
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Ball out there. Matt Laflour could be in trouble in
Green Bay if they don't make the playoffs because the
new president of the team had policy has said no
new contracts this year from Lafloor or the GM Bryan Gudikountz,
and they're signed through twenty twenty six and policies made
it clear he's not a fan of lame duck season.
So they're going to be up or out at this year.
So you never know who's going to be available for
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the Giants. You never know where the job is going
to come open. He could be a crazy coach thereself.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Mike Florio with US Courtesia simply Seattle every Wednesday at
three ten here on the program, and Mike, I think
there's a little bit of a dearth of real, super
sexy candidates to be head coaches these days, and not
just in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, good word, I look it up by it.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, the same thing in college football, right There's just
not a lot of big name candidates. And I wonder
when you have a team like the Seahawks, who has
the second best point differential in football. Dick and I
have both met Clint Kubiak in person, he might be
a great coordinator. I don't think he's got the goods
to command the locker room in the NFL, though personality
wise as a head coach, how much of his name
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do you think we're going to hear for head coaching vacancies.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
If the offense in Seattle keeps this.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Up, I think he will be out there and he
will get interviews because of said dearth as it relates
to candidates for both NFL jobs and big time college jobs. Look,
there's no Ben Johnson this year. There's no clear and
obvious guy who's been on the radar screen for multiple
seasons and now it's his time to ascend. And Clint
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Kubiak isn't anyone we expected to be on the radar
this year. And this is how it happens. You know,
the owners really don't know what to do and they
don't want to admit to anyone, including themselves, they don't
know what to do. So the media is the one
that gives life to these candidates and one of the
sneaky persuasive tools. And it shows you how much power
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they have, the people who determine the shots during games,
and how many sideline images or booth images. We're going
to have of coordinators that can take on the life
of its own and that can create something out of
nothing for some of these guys. But when you look
at what the Seahawks offense is doing, Yes, there's going
to be some interviews for Clint Kubiak, and then it's
up to him to convince an owner to give it
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a shot. But there's always a risk the coordinator who's
never been a head coach before doesn't have the skill set.
It's a very different job, and for every guy that
makes it, the guy that never should have had the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Mike, do you really buy the Joe Burrow's going to
come back a month early and play on Thanksgiving? Well?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
I do, because look, and I don't want to be
any more of a jerk than I already am. But
we just accept these initial reports that come out about
a guy's expected absences gospel truth. I mean, the insiders
just passing along whatever the agent tells them. You could
tell them anything and they'll just rush to Twitter with it.
(15:33):
Because the whole objective is to be the first one
to thumb out the text or copy and paste it.
As some of them do, because I know because I've
gotten the same text and I've seen it word for word,
copied and pasted into someone's Twitter message. But that's all
it's about. It's not about accuracy. You know, when JJ
McCarthy hurt his ankle, the prevailing report two to four weeks, well,
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we ended up missing seven weeks before we played again,
And the initial reports for Burrow was mid December at
the earliest. Breathels reporting Monday Night Football has time, Mitch
just sever at the earliest, and by the time the
guy comes back, we've all forgotten it. And I think
there is a chance he's going to come back, because
when you open that twenty one day window to practice
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for a guy who's on IR, if he isn't added
to the fifty three man roster at the end of
the twenty one days, he goes to the i R
for the rest of the season. So I don't think
the Bengals are playing a game here. I think they're
getting this guy ready to play Thanksgiving Night on NBCM
Peacock Ravens Bengals, and the Bengals actually have a way
to pull an inside straight and win that division. They're
a game behind the Ravens, two games behind the Steelers.
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They beating the Steelers. You get a crack out of
it again this weekend. They still have two games against
the Ravens. They could win enough games.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
To win the division.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
And no matter how bad those teams are, one of
those teams is going goes to the playoff game.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
How much trouble is Sean mcdermoden in Buffalo you think, honestly.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
We're alre He talked about it. Man, Are you not listening? Yeah,
I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
But you mentioned Steven A.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Smith's Solitaire game.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I actually am playing Solitaire on my phone. I mean,
do you think he's going to get fired?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I want you to. Oh, that's what I'm asking you.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
I think if they don't make the playoffs, he's got
a real problem. And if they do anything other than
get to the divisional round, it looks we don't know
because there's only one person who has a vote. This
is the reality. The owner of the team is the
one who makes the decision, and the owner of the
team is the one who has no accountability to anyone
unless than until the fan base will collectively rise up
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and deprive itself.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Of the thing.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
It loves like a family member and hates like a
family member, as the case may be. They're still going
to make their money. Jed York said it after they
did the Harbaugh out Jim Ton Sula out ship Kelly
out at a press conference. He said, you don't dismiss
the owner, and that's the problem. So the owner can
do whatever he wants. The fans can be up in arms,
they can do a march, they can they can try
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to launch a boycott, and it's not going to go
because those fans love that team and they'll accept whatever
the owner decides to do. And it's going to come
down to what Terry Pogola decides to do.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
You think Clint Kubia gets any run for a head
And I'm kidding, Hey, Mike, you're the man, great stuff
and we're talking a week, buddy, Appreciate it. Pal, All right,
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Speaker 2 (18:35):
All right, we're back on a busy Wednesday. Petros joins
at four, Kevin Harlan joins at five. But Dick would
like to correct the record.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Correct the record on the quarterback, So we did. I
mentioned Mariota. Jaden Daniels did start that game, so that
is incorrect. However, I don't think any Seahawks fan that
saw that Jade and Daniels would think it is the
Jade and Daniels of last season.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Well, it's still Jade Daniels, you know. So whatever in
his first game back from.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Him increases your odds, decreases your odds of being proven rights.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
It made me feel better.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
This is also this is also part of what we
talked about yesterday, and I will be honest with you,
I feel like you're.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Kind of feeding into it right now a little bit.
What's just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
We talked yesterday about Sam darn and all the people
that are waiting for him to fall apart right in
the playoffs, right, Like Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Smith was on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
You go hear him by the way at three forty
five to day telling me the times, well you've never
seen Sam Donald coump playoff time, to which I thought
to myself, does this guy have like five or six
playoff games under his belt?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Not just the one? Just the one?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
So this narrative of him being a third in the
postseason has apparently developed nationwide because of one game. So
if they go out on Sunday and Matt Stafford has
a good game and does what nobody's really done yet, well,
I guess what Baker did maybe against the Seahawk tea
did they stake?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
See what happens when they play a good quarterback?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
They suck and Guys, I'm expecting Matt Stafford to have
a pretty decent game. I'm not expecting him to light
the Seahawks up because I would always take the great
defense over the great offense every single time. There's a
reason why Monday we all agreed on the under in
this game, right. But if Matt Stafford, who might be
the MVP, goes out there and has a good game
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against the Hawks, does that mean all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
The Hawks defense is a frost So right now, let
me give you this.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Matthew Stafford passes for let's say, two hundred and seventy yards,
two touchdowns and a pick.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
You take that right now? Yeah, give me the numbers again, Jackson.
Two seventy two touchdowns in one pickin the Seahawks defense
can be better than do they win the game twenty
seven to twenty three.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
My point here is this is that that for me,
like I was talking about this in a friend group,
That's why I had those numbers so easily. Is is
the element of that seems like a pretty reasonable thought
of what he could do. And at the end of
the day, if Matthew Stafford comes away with just two
touchdowns and he turned the ball over, that should.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Give our offense a chance to win the game.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I better not score a rushing touchdown then, because I
think if the Rams score three touchdowns we lose.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Really, yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
We just said the Unders a lot, so forty eight
and a half they can win the game.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Think the Rams would score three touchdowns and lose the
game because they can win the game twenty four to
twenty one. And if there's a.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Very slim window that they can score three touchdowns and lose,
and lose the game in an under I.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Would not agree. And look, you may be proven right
on Sunday, but I I look, if they score four touchdowns,
I'm way more nervous than three touchdowns. I mean, what
were what was the yards number that you gave us
for Sunday? To seventy two touch one he averages? He
averages two seated, he shouldn't get his averages. That's exactly right.
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He just broke it right down there. So and he
averages basically, you know, two and a half touchdowns a game.
I'm giving you his average if you hold Matt Stafford
to his average and this offense to their average. The
Seahawks defense, look again, this is we can we can
honestly say this without without debate. This is the best
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quarterback they face this year, right without pa So the
numbers should be higher.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
For the opponent.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
They should be if you're facing the best quarterback you've
seen this year and maybe the best one you'll see
all year. If there's going to be an outlier for
the Seahawks schedule defensively and the stats for seventeen weeks,
it should be Sunday in LA.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Right, and back to your Darnold point. I mean, I
just think this is a really unique year where most
of the playoff, most of the Super Bowl contenders are
actually better defensively than they are offensively.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Especially the NFC.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
The Seahawks are that way, the Rams are that way,
the Eagles are that way, the Packers are that way,
like almost every like.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
The Lions aren't. But it's close.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
But most NFC, big time Super Bowl teams have awesome defenses.
So Sam darry is not going to walk into the
NFC playoffs and throw for three touchdowns of three hundred yards.
Just not gonna happen. Not because he's not good. Well,
just those defenses are great. I just think this, Dick.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I think to Jackson's point, kind of what would it
take You're asking, what would it take to kind of
make you accept it?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
If if Sam, if Matt Stafford does to the Seahawk
defense what Baker Mayfield did, that's gonna be a big down, Yeah,
big downer. Because again, guys, like I told you a
month ago when that game got played, the Star is
the scheme for me. The Star is the scheme, especially
with the guys being out, and the scheme should never
allow Baker Mayfield to do what he did in that game,
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when he threw for three hundred and eighty yards and
two touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
That should not happens an outlier. It's unbelievable that can happen.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So I think for the Hawks again, I'm expecting Matt
Stafford to have a good game. I'm just hoping he
doesn't have an elite game, because if he does have
an elite game, then you gotta wonder. I think at
that point, okay, what happens if they do face and
but again, then I start to think about things like
what does McDonald do to fix it? Because he fixed
whatever happened versus Tampa. I can tell you that.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
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Speaker 2 (24:40):
I'll tell you who's on a freaking rolls our friend,
Jackson folts am mine.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yes, you're on a roll. You are on a roll.
Even climbed out of the sewer.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Let's go, and you are now a dominant force in
the handicapping industry.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
All right, I'm turning away.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I'm looking at it going not really, but I want you,
young man.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Have some confidence. That's the way I'm talking to you.
What do you got. I'm confident in John Wilner.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I'm confident in teams coming off of losses that they
shouldn't have had. And I'm confident in Demond Williams Huskies
minus sixteen and a half against a worthless, despicable, embarrassing,
disgustingly bad sorry Mike Gas Purdue.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Boiler Yeah, he doesn't give a damn. That's the one, April,
You're it.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Your Purdue boiler Makers are disgustingly bad this year, and
the you Dove is going to beat them by more
than seventeenth.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Then we have a.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Defensive lineman that went to Perdue, that played for the
Seahawks two back in the day. This is the guy
that I'm thinking of, somebody I'm thinking of. But anyway,
I thought it was thirteen and a half or is
it sixteen and a half?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
You sure about that? Terrible?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Terrible?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I mean, obviously there's just a couple of concerns about
some injuries, but I don't think it should matter. I
think coming off that game on Saturday, I think Jed's pissed.
I think he wants to like it up on Saturday
at home. De Mont Williams is a totally different quarterback
at Husky Stadium than he is away from Husky Stadium.
And don't forget, by the way, you know who the
defensive coordinator is for the Huskies right now. So the
Purdue's head coach last year and Ryan Walters, and obviously
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transfer portal changes it a little bit, but I would
think he would know this defense and their personnel in
this offense better than anybody. And on top of that,
the new head coach of Purdue is Barry Odom, who
Ryan Walters coached with at Missouri. He knows exactly what
he's up against this weekend. So we like the dogs
minus the points against Purdue.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Here's the Huskies scoring offensively at Husky Stadium this year,
thirty eight seventy Ohio State six. This is not Ohio
State thirty eight and forty two of it. They're gonna
put up forty plus and so Jackson, all they got
to do is.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Hold him to twenty four easy and they're going to
win the game. Yeah, and their defense is easily good.
Oh god, sixteen in a row.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
They've lost sixteen consecutive games in the Big Ten. Last
team they beat was Indiana before they hired Kurt Signetti. Wow,
that's the last time Indian lost a Big Ten game.
They fired their coach, they lost to Purdue, and they
hired Kurt Signetti and they can't freaking lose ever since then.
So you dub minus the points factor fiction four nine
four to five one. Every day at three thirty five,
we give you a game. It's your responsibility to text
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Speaker 1 (27:36):
It's now time for Softy in Dig's Fun with Audio.
Speaker 10 (27:39):
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Speaker 1 (27:43):
Now let's have some fun with audio.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
All right, here we go on a busy Wednesday afternoon.
Petros will join us in a matter of minutes. Right
here on ninety three three KJARFM. It's time though, for
a little fun with audio slash. Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick,
did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Dave? What's that? Dick?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yesterday on Fun with Audio, we heard Steven A. Smith
doubting the Seahawks because of Sam Darnold's one bad playoff game. Well,
yesterday on First Tank, he changed his tune as he
ranked his top three teams in the NFL right now,
starting with the Colts in the three hole.
Speaker 10 (28:19):
Now they suffered against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I can't let
them all, but Jonathan Taylor is a top candidate for
the league MVP.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Honess, just like say Kwam Balk he was last year.
Speaker 10 (28:30):
You can run, you could throw, you got a good
offensive line, you got a defensive point out to him,
you got the best record in the NFL. Gotta give
him some love. I got him top to give me that.
I don't have his top two though. Give me a
number two please, right here, the Los Angeles, damn Bruyn.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
I don't like what.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Your brother's doing. I see what they're doing right here, y'all.
Don't have any problem with.
Speaker 10 (28:54):
That being top three last week.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Don't act like you're doing something different right now at
number one.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Give it to me.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Wow, Seattle Seahawks with that.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
Defense, deir physicality, Sam Donald being a leading candidate for
league MVP and jig but being that dude picking up
you know, Shi, The brothers right.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Now have to be watched out for, all right.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
So yesterday he said, you gotta watch out for Sam
Donald come playoff time, turning into a pumpkin. The other
day he said, you gotta watch out for Sam Donald
to win the whole damn thing.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Now. In his defense, a little bit bull is on crack.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
It's possible, he thinks, for the best team in the
NFL right now, but then come playoff time, Donald's gonna
pee his pants and the Hawks are gonna fall apart.
That is possible. But I did find it a little
bit interesting that I'm back to back days. He told
us to watch out for the bad Sam Donald. Then
the next day he said Hawks for the number one
team right now the National Football.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Were not entirely surprising he would do that. I am
surprised that he has that.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Anybody at ESPN would have a team from Seattle number
one that hasn't already won a Super Bowl or something
like that. So that's a that there wasn't Dallas, to
be honest with, Yes, that's impressive. And you know, Coward
did is this week and he's got the same top two.
He's just got him in a different order. He's got
the Rams one, He's got the Seahawks two.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
This is truly the game of the year.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Who did he have at five and four? Do you
remember on that list? Because the Colts were number three?
I think New England was on that list. Yeah, maybe
Kansas City, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
But how about that?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
For all you steven A haters out there, he's got
the Hawks as the number one team in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
All right, hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Dick?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Former NFL pass rusher Chris Long hosts The green Light
podcast and said this about the Seahawks on yesterday's show.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
Mike McDonald might end up being one of the dudes.
I mean, he's already well on his way to being
one of the dudes. And for Seattle, let them get
home field advantage and you will be sorry. Let them
get home field advantage. You will be sorry because that
place is hell to play in. In the start of
McDonald's tenure, they were not great at home, and now
all of a sudden they're starting to jump people at
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home in the first half and then put it in
cruise control. I'll be interested to look at the All
twenty two to see how much the Shaheed presence changes
the way you know, defenses played this group, well, at
least John Gannett how he played this group because yeah,
one more weapon makes him scary.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
By the way, Toyo random, we had that conversation about
purduing factor of fiction. I just realized to the Seahawk
defensive tackle was that went to produce Craig Terrell. Yeah,
I cannot believe it took me that long to figure
that out. Back to Chris Long, Yeah, I mean, do
we still subscribe to the whole Only way the Hawks
can get there is if they have home field thing.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I mean, they are eleven and one twelve games on
the road, So.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I do not believe they will win multiple playoff road games. Really,
how many teams they don't need to do multiple playoff
road games? You would if you're not the division champion.
Speaker 9 (31:48):
You will.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
They don't need to.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
But for years and years and years, it was always
you got to get the number one seat, got to
get home field, got to play the NFC championship, right.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Jackson at home?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yes, because every year they've gone, they've played it as whole.
I still believe that, Okay, I still believe. So you
you're saying you don't think the Hawks can win the
NFC Championship on somebody else's field.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
That's what you're saying. I know what did I just say?
I don't know what you said? You did you hear
what I said? You said you don't think they'll win
multiple road playoffs?
Speaker 9 (32:17):
Right?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
And then I said, they don't have to. They don't
have to.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
They don't they don't need the number one. They don't
have to win multiple games. They have to win maybe
one game on the road.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
That's right. No, correct, do you think they can win
the NFC championship on the road.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yes, if they're two seed, I think they could win
at Philadelphia or the Rams.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Well, we wouldn't be the Rams and Philadelphia or Detroit or.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Probably Well that's the whole point is that Again, it
was always about you got to get the number one seed,
man got to play the NFC tattle game at home.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
And I don't know if I believe that right now
with this team, But do.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You do you agree that they're not going to win
it from the five seed right with all the parody
in the NFL right now in that three yeah, but
that's my point. You're you're taking a fifty to fifty
game in three weeks in a row and winning all
of them.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I would not bet on it, but we've seen it.
The Giants did it. There's also way more parody now,
there is a buttload of parody. I mean, we can't
sit here and say this thing is wide open and
there's nine or ten teams that can win it and
then totally dismiss the idea of a wildcard team winning
the title or at least making the Super Bowl. I
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think with the parody in the NFL right now, normally
i'd agree with you with a parody in the NFL.
Right now it might be possible this year more than ever.
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