November 19, 2024 • 33 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Jon Wilner about the Big Ten tiebreakers, UW’s quarterback situation, and more college football, then talk about the future of Geno Smith before Sounders Head Coach Brian Schmetzer joins the show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for our weekly PAC twelve conversation with Senos
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey, kudos to everybody in the text line who knew
that was a total recall reference. By the way, all right,
quaid with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Very underrated, cheesy as hell movie
from back in the eighties. But you haven't seen Falling Down, Dude,
You got to see Falling Down? Would like annoying Jackson's
sense of humor. I think he would like basically about
a guy that just snaps and has just had enough
(00:41):
of everybody, every freaking shotgun down street.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Watch it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Joining us right now in the radio program, a guy
who's definitely had enough of everything. Our friend John Wilner,
courtesy is simply Seattle dot com.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Johnny, how are you man?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Good?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I was gonna tell you it was total recall, but
here you go. Listeners beat me to it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
They did they did beat you to it. Congratulations on
the win. Last week. Took air force and they annihilated
Oregon State. So we'll go for two in a row
on Wilner's winner in a matter of minutes. But John Canzano,
your podcast partner, was on with us a couple hours ago.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
And he made a good point.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
He said, if this was the PAC twelve announcing on
a Tuesday that, hey, oh by the way, yeah, USC's
in the PAC twelve championship game already, people would give
them so much crap.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Your head would spin. What happened today?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
And why did it take the Big Ten until today
to figure this out?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I mean I just kind of assumed organ had clinched Anyhow,
I don't know that it was really a big news, right.
I think it's because they you know, they got eighteen teams.
You have eighteen teams none conference games. Everybody misses eight others.
Oregon's not playing Indiana, Indiana's not playing Penn State. Penn State,
it's not playing Oregon. It's confusing. I don't know for
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sure that the Big Ten actually spent three days trying
to figure it out, as opposed to somebody just saying
to them Hey, we ought to announce it, and so
they got around to announcing it. I didn't sense that
there was any you know, great clamor on Sunday or
Monday to know the situation.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
John, Do you think there's any confusion in Dan Lanning's
mind over who's starting at quarterback for Washington? You think
he's got a pretty good idea who's starting.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I think he thinks he knows, but I don't know
if that's correct. You know, it certainly serves Washington's purposes
to create as much uncertainty as possible given how different
the two players are with their skill sets.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Right, Absolutely, I agree with that. So I, John, gotta
tell you all I've been hearing all day long, is
Dick Vane complained about how much you hate Washington.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
He's like, what is going on now?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Every break, you know, every time I see a tweet
he's doing this, or he's saying this, or he's saying that.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I mean, you tell him what trouble you know? I can't.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Yes, I came off this week, John, proud of my team.
They got to a bowl game. They the defense has
been really good for a good chunk of the year,
and so I'm reading your tweet. I read the headline
that you dub was not ready for prime time in
the Big Ten. I'm like, Okay, I'm not gonna blame
John for the headlines because columnists don't write headline So
I'm going to read the story before I jumped the conclusions.
(03:22):
And I honestly don't think it's fair to start an
article with a quote from Fish saying the ability to
compete every year for championships, and then you say, fast
forward to the end of the year and the Huskies
are nowhere near the top. I mean, no, duh, right,
I mean you picked them eleventh. So I'm wondering what
the purpose of the article was other than just to
kind of dump on a team that actually overperformed your expectations.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Ahi, John, your rebuttal go ahead.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Well, I don't think they've overperformed my expectations yet. I don't.
I haven't looked at the standings, but if they're four
and five, they're probably gonna be somewhere, you know, in
this massive tie for ninth to tenth. I you know,
I would just say they weren't ready, and they didn't.
My guess is that Fish would tell you they didn't
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play to the goal he has for them. Now, is
it a Was it a realistic goal this first year,
given all the roster turnover? I don't know, but I
think the Washington standard is to compete for a title
in the Big Ten every year, and they didn't do it.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
There's no question that wasn't the goal.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
This right by anybody, and that would be my point
I guess is that was it fair to expect that
Washington would be ready this year to compete with the
elite of the Big Ten?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I mean, I don't know. I didn't think so, But
don't you guys tell me what did you think? What
did the Husky fans think? You know, I didn't think
Washington was ready, but I don't know what the vibe
is up there.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I thought they'd be a six and six, seven and
five football team from the start, Yes, and that's exactly
what they are. I think it's fair, if you're being
obviously literal, to say Washington is not ready yet to
compete with the elite of the Big Ten. That is
accurate on today's date, November the nineteenth. They are not
ready yet to compete with Penn State, Ohio State, Oregon, Indiana, whatever,
(05:17):
They're not there yet. But I also think that context
is important. When you lose fifty guys and you've got
all these brand new coaches and brand new players, I
don't think anybody expected them to be ready for that now.
If we're sitting here in a year from now and
they're still getting pushed around by the elites of the
Big Ten, I think at that point you got a
little bit of a problem, and you're wondering when will
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this happen. Then the heat I think gets turned up
a little bit. I know there are some people that
are sour with Fish for some other reasons, maybe than
what's happening on the field. But I guess your expectations
for you, doub weren't very high this year either, because
you picked them eleventh in the Big Ten. So nobody
can be surprised by what UB's doing right now, right.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I mean I wasn't, but I don't know. I don't
know what a general Husky fan was. I thought that
they were gonna have several years potentially to get up
to to compete for a title. But here's the one
thing though, that you could argue Indiana, India has got
a new coach. Indiana's got a sun Belt roster, and
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Indiana is what ten and zero, So it is not
You're not, you know, necessarily relegate automatically relegated to a
five hundred season if you have roster turnover. Now Washington
had a lot of roster turnover and a new coach,
But you can do it. I'm not saying, you know,
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Fish did a bad job this year. I think Fish
did a fine job this year. I think his offense
was not as good as his defense. Uh, but I
have no problem with the job fished it. It's just
clear to me that they are not ready clearly not.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
I just think it's independing on how you spin it.
And you obviously spun it one way and talked about
that their all their wins were over nobodies and all
their losses were over good teams, and then.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
That's that's a fact.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
But you could also spin it and say all their
wins were by double digits except for one and two
of their losses were on the final play of the game,
and they had to go on the road to three
top ten teams. So it's like Oregon have to do that.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Who else in the Big ten had to do that.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Nobody had to do that. So Washington literally had the
hardest road schedule in the Big Ten and almost, I mean,
is a whisker away from being eight and three right now.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah, Willner, how's that taste?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yes, they the Big Ten kind of screwed them with
the schedule. I agree. They're the only one of the
four West Coast teams that had to go across the
country four times. I don't know how that happened. And
I don't know if that is like a regular piece
of the schedule rotation or not. I'm just judging them
on how they did, and they did. You know, they
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got beat badly my Iowa, pretty badly by Indiana with
a backup quarterback. Yeah, very badly at Penn State. I
think that they're probably gonna my guess is they're they're
going to get beat pretty badly this week. We'll see,
but they You know, there's a big difference between the
top and where Washington.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Is now, no question right now.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And the thing is each time, correct me if I'm wrong.
But I don't think did the Hussies even score twenty
points in any of their road No?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
No, no, they did not.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
No, So that's it's clear what's going on.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
The defense played very well almost every game except maybe
Penn State, right, but the offense just couldn't get to
that next level once they left Montley.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Well, John Wilner is with us.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Courtesy is simply as Seattle and Dick asked about you know,
does Landing know what you Dub is going to do?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
What do you think they should do?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Is it time to bench will Rogers, who's making three
quarters of a million bucks, to be at you, Dub,
he's the second all time leading passer in the history
of the SEC, in favor of an eighteen year old kid,
and give him his first start at Austin Stadium in
eleven days from now.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
What would you do?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I would not start him in that environment against that team,
but I would have a lot of packages and I'd
be ready to switch to him as the full time
quarterback if Rodgers struggles early. But man, you're asking a
lot for put him in that environment and one mistake
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early and all of a sudden, it's just a tornado.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
What do you think of what you've seen from Demond Williams.
I mean when he's come in, I mean his QBR
is off the charts. His completion percentages off the charts,
and I don't know if you saw the two escape
runs that he had against UCLA, but I think there's
a lot of Husky fans that think they might have
like a second coming at Kyler Murray with this kid.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Oh yeah, it was very impressive. If he can, you know,
get to the point where he can be accurate regularly
from the pocket, he's gonna be a terrific quarterback. There's
no doubt about that. You could see why they would
play him and you know, give him packages in each game.
They want to keep him around. Obviously, I think he's
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got a ton of talent. There's no doubt. It's hard
to say now you know totally project what he's gonna be,
but you gotta like what you've seen so far.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
What'd you make of what Jake Dickard said the other
day where he talked about Oregon State, he said, they're
not our buddy, they're not our pal. They would have
left us as fast as we would have left them
if we could have What do you make of what
Jake Dickardon said?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Honesty was fantastic because that is absolutely the truth. Realignment,
isn't we talked about this. It is entirely about self interest.
If Washington had chanced to go to the Big Twelve,
they would have left Oregon State behind and vice versa.
And the both schools know it. Everybody knows it, and
they got put together out of circumstances and they made
the best of it. But Lily Dickert said exactly the truth.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
John, what do you think of Oregon's scheduling, whether or
not they're fully prepared for the playoffs? I mean, we
talked about how hard the Huskies road schedule was. I
mean Oregon went to OSU, UCLA, Purdue, Michigan, and Wisconsin
and they almost lost to Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Well, I think that the Big Ten championship game is
going to basically be a de facto road game for
them because I'm expecting it. It'll be against Ohio State
and they'll be you know, ninety percent Buckeye fans there
in Indianapolis, So to me, that will help. But if
they win the Big Ten, then they are playing in
the quarterfinals in neutral site bowl games, and it would
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probably be the Rose Bowl because the committee is bound
to put the conference champs in the bowls affiliated with
those conferences, So the Big Ten champs go on the
Rose Bowl. If that's Oregon, they're gonna have a home
you know, they'll have a lot of support, is there
for sure? If they and they're not gonna have to
play a road game in the opening round because even
if they lose the Big Ten championship, they will be
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seated high enough to have a home game at US
on December twenty first, So I don't know that they're
gonna face a real tough road environment at least through
the quarter finals.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
So the CFP rankings just came out and the top
five are the same Oregon, Ohio State, Texas, Penn State, Indiana.
The big news is that Boise State is now the
fourth highest rank conference champion out of the Mountain West.
So they would actually get a buye and get to
host a game. No, they would not host a game.
(12:39):
They would go to a bowl game, correct, the second
rounds of bowl game?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Is that right? Yeah, they would get they would get
a buy in the opening round, and they would go
straight into the quarterfinals, which are at neutral site.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Right, correct, So they are the fourth highest rank conference champ.
What I'm trying to figure out is Georgia beats Tennessee
and moves up two spots. Alabama beats Mercer and moves
up three spots. I mean, is that someone just not
paying attention to what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
The Committee is mailing it in, especially with Georgia, the
fact that Georgia is seven spots behind Texas. Georgia beat
Texas a month ago in Austin by fifteen points. They
have three top twenty five wins, Texas has none, and
Texas is seven spots ahead of them. It's a complete joke.
(13:28):
And Georgia is the Canarian the coal mine for this
whole thing, because if they get hosed by the committee
because they have two losses, the SEC is going to
see that, and the SEC is gonna take its ball
and go home in the next couple of years and
create its own playoffs.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
We were talking about Boise there, and you wrote about
Boise this week and how much of a threat to
the Koogs and the Beeves they potentially could be as
a future power for conference selection. Talk about that with us, Well, I.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Just think you know, they get into the pack, the
new PAC twelve. That's a really good football program, and
just like Gonzaga on the basketball side, the Pac twelve
is kind of invited a football and a basketball program
that are better than either Washington State or Oregon State's
football and basketball. And if Boise he comes in and
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they win the conference regularly and they're going to the
playoff regularly as the Group of five winner, they're going
to be more attractive potentially to the Big twelve than
the Cougars or Beavers might be.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, how likely is it you think that Jake Dickert
is coaching somewhere else next year? I mean all I've
heard him do all year long is complain about nobody
coming to games. Yeah, right in Pullman, he's obviously a
two lost team that's got no shot of making the
playoff now after the lost to New Mexico, I would
kind of like to see him stay, to be honest
(14:55):
with you, but what are the odds that Jake Dickard
is coaching somewhere else next year?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
My gut is that they're increasing by the week. You know,
he's gonna I think he's gonna have some options because
this isn't it's not just this season, right. His sample
sizes multiple seasons of success in a tough gig, and
he's a Midwest guy, and I haven't like taken a
(15:21):
thorough look at what jobs might be open, but yeah,
he's gotta be frustrated. And it'll also be interesting to
see what happens with mateir right in if somebody comes
and makes a big offer for Matier and he leaves.
I don't know. I'm kind of getting the feeling that
it's more likely than not that Dicker might leave. But
(15:41):
we'll see.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
Who'd you take, Bon Knicks or Dylan Gabriel? And who
would you take the twenty twenty three Ducks or the
twenty twenty four Ducks?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Ooh, I would all right, So I would take Nick
Silver Gabriel, Okay, but I would take the twenty four
Ducks because I think the defensive line is better. You
know that guy Derrick Harmon from the Michigan State Transfer,
He's the kind of run stopping, pocket collapsing force that
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the SEC powerhouses usually have. I don't know what he's
weighing in at three ten, three twenty, but that's the
kind of guy that's starting for an SEC defensive line
that wins the national championship. And Washington's going to have
to double team him, and he is a difference maker.
For the Ducks.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Hey, he also got his ass kick the last two
years by Washington playing for Michigan State, and now he's
doing it for Oregon. So we'll see what happens next
Saturday at Audstin Stadium.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
All right, you're back in the win column, baby.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Your four game losing streak is over air Force demolishing
Oregon State. Over the weekend, let's go for two in
a row. Buddy, Willner's winner is back on the path.
The man the Windalorean has returned. Well a vengeance. Who
do you like this weekend?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Buddy? I will take the Cougars. And I don't even
know what the footspread is, don't even care. Eight and
a half Beavers are what is it?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Eight and a half?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Oh yeah, the Beavers are in free fall. I didn't like.
They didn't have good body language, they didn't have good energy.
Their quarterback situation is a mess. That was a terrible,
terrible loss at air Force.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I think Oregon State is done, so I will take
the Cougars.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I'm sorry, it's actually twelve and a half. I apologize,
I say reading the wrong number. You like the Coups
minus the points?
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Okay? All right? I tend to agree with you.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Wazoo minus the twelve and a half is John's pick
for the week. All right, buddy, great stuff, and keep
pissing off Husky fans because it keeps driving Faine nuts
and keeps giving us content. So I appreciate that, right,
I don't want.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
To drive Fame nuts. Don't just I'm just call it
like I see it.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Why don't you guys just go out and get a
beer and you can talk it out.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Sounds that sound all right? And then Jackson I will
just hang out, all right, good stuff, John, we're talking
to ways body, see you man.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Thanks guys, all right.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
John Wilner with us likes the Cougars minus the twelve
and a half again the Beabs. Brian Schmitzer is going
to join us coming up by the way at five
forty five tonight. And we didn't get to this conversation
that Chuck and Buck had with Mike with Gene Sterator,
sorry this morning, regarding the Seahawk game.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
We can talk about that.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
And then Chuck himself has put up a bunch of
crystal ball predictions for the Mariners and he wants to
really blow up the Mariner roster. He'll join us at
six and explain why on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
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Speaker 2 (18:40):
I'm just done, Dick off he here. Brian Schmetzer is
gonna join us at five forty five. That's not what
I was telling Dick. By the way, No, you didn't say, Hey, Dick,
guess what Brian Schmetcher was coming on five for Jacks.
Oh really, I had no idea. He'll join us at
about fifteen minutes from now. Getting ready for the big
match against LAFC. Are they gonna win?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
The silence have to have a funny feeling, though, and
I don't trust my funny feeling, but I have a
funny feeling.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
The one thing you did not hear on the air,
because Jackson turned his mic off when I asked him
will they win?
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Was what's someone else to do?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
What's he supposed to do? The voice of the sounders,
come on. He can't go on the air and say
they're gonna lose.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
I said, this to private people in private moments, the
winner of this and I say it on the air
tonight show people, I say this on my on the air,
on my show to the night at seven, I think
the winner of this game wins MLS Cup. And I
have a weird, funny feeling about this.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Also, then we should put some money on the Sounders
to win the MLS Cup because obviously there the odds
are away. I think I saw it like sixteen to
one or something like that. Put a few of fifty
shuckles on that one, because they're clearly not sixteen to
one to win this series.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, we'll see if Brian Schweitzer agrees with that that
whoever wins this game wins the MLS car.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
He's not gonna agree with that, of course he's not.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Hey, you know, what do with him?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
You never know, You never know, So he'll join us
at five forty five. I know, I was telling Dick
Off the air that I'm just I'm very, very intrigued
by what the Seahawks are going to do with Gino
Smith because it's the same thing that always happens when
it comes to arguments like this.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
It's like the Jamal Adams thing. Right, that there was one.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Side who believed what they believed and they thought the
other side was as dumb as the day is long.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
It's the same thing with Gino Right.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
You got your Geno people, and then you got your
anti Geno people, and the Geno people like our buddy
Jackson Evans, right, who runs these Cigar Thoughts podcasts. He's
a huge Geno fan, and he thinks if you don't
believe what he's saying, then you're as dumb as anybody.
And I like Jackson a lot, and I actually like
Gino Smith a lot too. I don't think he's an
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elite quarterback by any stretch in the imagination. I think
he's good enough. I think with a better offensive line
around him, which I hope they have next year, and
I hope that they have, you know, the next seven games,
that he he will be a better product of what
we've seen so far this season. I think it's taken
him some time for him and Grubb to kind of
get in the same page and figure things out. I
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think he needs a strong running game, which I think
the Seahawks can have under Kenny Walker.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
But this is gonna be fascinating.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Dick, What they do with this guy over the offseason,
because it's it's like the parking lot fight scene in Anchorman, Right,
the people that love Gino and the people that think
he's overrated are gonna come with pitchforks and flame throwers
and go at each other no matter what happens with
Gino over the offseason.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Well, I'm thinking of a couple of championship coaches in
the last few years that decided good enough wasn't good enough.
And those guys are Andy Reid, who decided to trade
his twenty seventh pick in the first round and move
up seventeen spots to the ten spot to select Patrick Mahomes.
And I'm thinking about Sean McVay who decided, even though
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Jared Goff got him to a super Bowl, he didn't
feel like Jared Goff was good enough, and he upgraded
at the quarterback position and got a guy that he
thought was significantly better in Matthew Stafford and mortgaged the
future for it, even though I didn't think it was
a good idea for them to do it, but they
did it and they won a championship. So the question
for John Schneider is is good enough good enough? Because
(22:15):
that's what Gino is. Gino is good enough to get
you a nine or ten wins. He is not good
enough to win you a Super Bowl. Right.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
But keep in mind, when the Chiefs moved up to
trade for Patrick Mahomes, they also kept Alec Smith. He
was a starter for a year and a half and
then they went to Patrick Mahomes, right, which is a
half a year.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I forget it was a year, no full year, which
and I'm fine with that plan. Like, if the plan
is we're gonna get a quarterback, We're gonna get Shadoor Sanders,
we are gonna trade whatever it takes to get Shadoor Sanders,
and he is gonna be our guy for the future.
And we're gonna sign Gino to a two year deal
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where really most of his guaranteed money's in year number one,
and he's the bridge starter to the guy that I've
got in the wings. I'm totally fine with that because
I'm not a big fan of throwing a rookie out
of the wind.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I mean, but what do we like, What do we
honestly think the Seahawks are going to do? Because when
I think of the possibilities, it's either.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
A cut him, or B give him that two year deal.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Why why can't they just play him?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
They could do that, but that's also not committing five years,
one hundred million dollars to him. I mean, I think
that there's this side that believes that the Seahawks might
just do something like that and say, Nope, g know's
our guy. Here's five years, one hundred and fifty million bucks,
and he's our dude for the next five seasons. I
think one of three things. Either A he plays it out,
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B they extend him on a very short deal and
draft the rookie. Or see they just get rid of
him and they eat whatever dead money there is for
next year and they move on. I don't see that
scenario happening very likely. I think you A he gets
a new short term deal, or B he plays it out.
They they they've got to find the next star at quarterback,
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and I don't think there's any need for the Seahawks
to go out and give Gino Smith a long term deal.
The question is do they do option A, which is
give them a two year deal, or do they do
Option B, which is just let him ride out his
current contract.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
One or the other.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Yeah, I think the least case scenario as they cut
him out right right. The second least scenario is the
five year, one d and fifty million dollars long term deal.
So here it would be more than one fifty. It'd
be like two hundred.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Let me ask you a question, because I'm looking at
one mock draft that's just CBS.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
It's one mock.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
And they've got Shador Sanders going number one two sorry,
and they got cam Ward going number three. They got
Travis Hunter going number one to the Jaguars, by the
way overall, which I kind of think that might be
a bit of a reach. But whatever, Chadur at number two,
cam Ward at number three, the next quarterback on the board. Well,
that's it. They got two guys in the first round.
So do we feel like there's a quarterback like, would
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you move up to get cam Ward to be your quarterback?
Would you move up to get Shadoor Sanders starting quarterbacks?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
You would?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Okay, I don't know if I would either. I'm kind
of a Jackson on that. I'm a little bit concerned
about Shador and his leadership ability. I'm concerned about the
Dion side show that comes along with all I think
he's a really good player. He's a very good player.
But there's been a lot of really good players in
college football that didn't pan out in the NFL. I mean,
Sendoor Sanders is going to have to prove he can
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throw the ball consistently under pressure in the National Football League,
and I don't know if anybody can prove that.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
I don't know if there's anybody in this class that
I love well.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
I mean, I think what you do, then if you
don't want to move up for it, you pick a
guy you really like in like that Jackson dart Range, right,
and you say we're gonna groom him, and he's gonna
be when he becomes our starter, he is going to
be ready.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
You're basically saying, we're gonna do with the what the
Falcons did with Cousins and Michael tex We're gonna give
Geno Smith a new deal, not as much as the
Falcons gave Cousins, obviously, and we're going to find a
quarterback and let him sit. And we're not going to
draft the guy in the first round like the Falcons did.
But the idea of having a established, decent, pot paid
starting quarterback with a young Bucks sitting behind him. That
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seems to be You mentioned the Mahomes scenario, that's exactly
what they did, and that seems like mark the road
that they should go down. And the last time the
Seahawks did this was with Matt Flynn and Russell Wilson.
They had an insurance policy in Matt Flynn and they
drafted what they were hoping was the future and it
worked out a lot quicker than people.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Thought it would and a lot better by the way.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
All right, we're gonna break Brian Schmetzer, we'll join us
coming up next on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Sofie and Dick on your Home for
the Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point
three kjr FM.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Got them getting nervous for Saturday night? Are you nervous
Jackson for Saturday? Very man, I'm nervous. What if Brian
Schmetzer is nervous for Saturday? Going down there in La.
Jackson's making the trip on Friday. This is such a
big game that he's leaving this show to go to
the game on Saturday.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Jackson's a big damn deal.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I mean, Brian, what do you make of that?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Man?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
We are we are losing our producer for Friday show,
so he can Friday LA to watch you knuckleheads play
on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
I just was talking to him off the air and
I told him, I said, you better get the dress
code right. You better not be late, you better be first.
You just I I gave him the run around, so
he better be on his best behavior, especially because he's
missing your show.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
That's right, That's right.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
And you know what, you better be a big damn
deal for a good damn reason to miss this show. Well,
here we go Saturday night, seven o'clock pregame right here
on the.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
FM la FC Again.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Why does it always have to be LAFC in these
big freaking games? And can we please finally beat them?
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Yes, I'm gonna tell you yes, and I'm gonna get
into why. Look the pressure's on them. I'll just start
with that. I mean, look, they've had success. We can
play a little more free. I can use the underdog card. Look,
you go on the league website mlssoccer dot net or
whatever it is. You know they've got the rankings of
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the remaining playoff teams. Guess who's number one. That's LAFC.
So they've got pressure on them to perform there. At home,
we can play free. That's going to help us with
our mentality.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
That's just the start.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
So you've got three weeks off after beating Houston, so
the old rest versus rust conversation comes in. So has
it broken the momentum at all? And what have you
done to simulate gameplay since then?
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, dick it, that's okay, that's the good question, fifty
million dollar question. We had a simulated scrimmage on Saturday.
It went really well. We ran them out there sixty
eight minutes. We got the physical outputs that we wanted.
Training has been good. The guys have been really good about,
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you know, making sure they're being good professionals and working hard.
We're going to do a lot of film this week.
We'll get it right. But yeah, I mean those first
ten minutes, I might play a little more conservative. I
might play in their half of the field.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
But we're still making those decisions based on, you know,
how training looks this week.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Well.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Brian Schwetzer again with us LAFC Saturday, seven o'clock kick
is that right, Jackson thirty kick seven o'clock pregame Saturday.
Thank you right here on the FM side. Get a
couple guys back from the break. We know that, but
the injury situation, Russ Knack and Jordan Morris, we're out
for Houston. Are they back and starting for you on Saturday?
Speaker 5 (29:52):
They are back and starting for me on Saturday, Softy,
I can say that was a great deal of authority.
They both look good in training today and you know
they're they're ready to go. They're hyped up.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Love it.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
So they knocked you out of the playoffs last year,
they knocked you out of the League's Cup. This year
they knocked you out of the open cups. So you
have what called in the gambling world, they call that
triple revenge. Now do you play the triple revenge card
with your team or do you just treat this like
any other opponent.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
I haven't used that exact word, Nick, but I think
they got the message at our morning meeting today. You know, look,
we're going to go down there with the right mentality.
We're going to go down there with a good game plan.
There's no reason why we cannot win the game. If
you look at the wins that they had. You know, Okay,
there are a couple of three nothing losses in there,
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but the way those games went out. Key for us
is not giving up a goal early in the game.
Let's keep it tight. The one nothing loss at Starfire,
the Open Cup semi final, you know we were in
that game. We were competitive. That's the type of game
we need to have down there in La.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
All right, Well, we got a little bird already at
training today. His name's Jackson Feltz and he said he
did not see Paul Rothrock out there.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
What's up with him?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
That's a guy that, as we've talked about it, has kind
of come out of nowhere to be a real key
contributor for you. How much of a surprise has he
been this year? And what's his story and why was
on he out there today?
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Well, he's on a different timetable because he is dealing
with a little bit of an issue. He'll be ready
for the game. Look, he's a tough kid, softy. I mean,
he came out of nowhere. Why did he come out
of nowhere? How did he earn a starting job? Because
he's super determined and so I'm looking at him he's
looking at me. He's not going I'm going to be ready, coach,
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So I got to take him at his word.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
What do they do so well defensively against you?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Guys?
Speaker 6 (31:47):
You've got only one goal against him in the last
five games.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
They are a good defensive team in a sense that
against US they change it. Against Vancouver they switch to
a different tactic in the second half. Against US, they
play with the back line of five, they drop into
a deep block, and then they've got Bogush and they've
got b Wonga. They've got guys that can get out
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on the fast break. So their transition game is kind
of who they are. It's their calling card. So the
combination of those two things, defending deep, defending well yep,
and getting out in transition, that's what we're up against.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I'll just close it with us, Brian Brian Schmetzers with
us on the air, Jackson said last segment, he thinks
whoever wins this game might win the entire damn thing.
So no pressure on you at all. But you're just
playing for the MLS Cup Championship. Apparently this weekend and
the last three elimination games against them have all come
at home.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
This one is at their place.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Does that maybe further kind of allow you to play
the US against the world card And does that change
your strategy at all this weekend?
Speaker 5 (32:52):
It's for sure going to change you both of those things.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Softy.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Look last year, you know, had we beaten LAFC in
the playoffs, had Houston at home, could have made it
in the MLS Cup. But you know some of the
guys well, actually a lot of the guys were on
the on the team in twenty nineteen. In twenty nineteen
LFC they were the darlings of the league, they were
the Supporter Shield winners, and we went down there, we
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beat him three to one. So it's possible. I'm not
gonna use a revenge word until maybe right before the
game or you know, I'll deal that in small doses.
The players already know it, they have already got it
figured out. We're gonna go down there and have a
good performance. That's going to get us the best chance
to win. And I agree, Safty, the winner of this
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game could very well end up playing and hosting MLS Cup.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Wow did he say There's no way he'll say that?
And he just said it on the air. I love it.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Brian, go kick their ass and we're talking a week.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
All right, goods, okay, all right, take care guys
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Hi Bud Brian Schmetzer with us, We're gonna break
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey, kudos to everybody in the text line who knew
that was a total recall reference. By the way, all right,
quaid with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Very underrated, cheesy as hell movie
from back in the eighties. But you haven't seen Falling Down, Dude,
You got to see Falling Down? Would like annoying Jackson's
sense of humor. I think he would like basically about
a guy that just snaps and has just had enough
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of everybody, every freaking shotgun down street.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Watch it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Joining us right now in the radio program, a guy
who's definitely had enough of everything. Our friend John Wilner,
courtesy is simply Seattle dot com.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Johnny, how are you man?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Good?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I was gonna tell you it was total recall, but
here you go. Listeners beat me to it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
They did they did beat you to it. Congratulations on
the win. Last week. Took air force and they annihilated
Oregon State. So we'll go for two in a row
on Wilner's winner in a matter of minutes. But John Canzano,
your podcast partner, was on with us a couple hours ago.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
And he made a good point.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
He said, if this was the PAC twelve announcing on
a Tuesday that, hey, oh by the way, yeah, USC's
in the PAC twelve championship game already, people would give
them so much crap.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Your head would spin. What happened today?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
And why did it take the Big Ten until today
to figure this out?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I mean I just kind of assumed organ had clinched Anyhow,
I don't know that it was really a big news, right.
I think it's because they you know, they got eighteen teams.
You have eighteen teams none conference games. Everybody misses eight others.
Oregon's not playing Indiana, Indiana's not playing Penn State. Penn State,
it's not playing Oregon. It's confusing. I don't know for
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sure that the Big Ten actually spent three days trying
to figure it out, as opposed to somebody just saying
to them Hey, we ought to announce it, and so
they got around to announcing it. I didn't sense that
there was any you know, great clamor on Sunday or
Monday to know the situation.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
John, Do you think there's any confusion in Dan Lanning's
mind over who's starting at quarterback for Washington? You think
he's got a pretty good idea who's starting.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I think he thinks he knows, but I don't know
if that's correct. You know, it certainly serves Washington's purposes
to create as much uncertainty as possible given how different
the two players are with their skill sets.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Right, Absolutely, I agree with that. So I, John, gotta
tell you all I've been hearing all day long, is
Dick Vane complained about how much you hate Washington.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
He's like, what is going on now?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Every break, you know, every time I see a tweet
he's doing this, or he's saying this, or he's saying that.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I mean, you tell him what trouble you know? I can't.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Yes, I came off this week, John, proud of my team.
They got to a bowl game. They the defense has
been really good for a good chunk of the year,
and so I'm reading your tweet. I read the headline
that you dub was not ready for prime time in
the Big Ten. I'm like, Okay, I'm not gonna blame
John for the headlines because columnists don't write headline So
I'm going to read the story before I jumped the conclusions.
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And I honestly don't think it's fair to start an
article with a quote from Fish saying the ability to
compete every year for championships, and then you say, fast
forward to the end of the year and the Huskies
are nowhere near the top. I mean, no, duh, right,
I mean you picked them eleventh. So I'm wondering what
the purpose of the article was other than just to
kind of dump on a team that actually overperformed your expectations.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Ahi, John, your rebuttal go ahead.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Well, I don't think they've overperformed my expectations yet. I don't.
I haven't looked at the standings, but if they're four
and five, they're probably gonna be somewhere, you know, in
this massive tie for ninth to tenth. I you know,
I would just say they weren't ready, and they didn't.
My guess is that Fish would tell you they didn't
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play to the goal he has for them. Now, is
it a Was it a realistic goal this first year,
given all the roster turnover? I don't know, but I
think the Washington standard is to compete for a title
in the Big Ten every year, and they didn't do it.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
There's no question that wasn't the goal.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
This right by anybody, and that would be my point
I guess is that was it fair to expect that
Washington would be ready this year to compete with the
elite of the Big Ten?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I mean, I don't know. I didn't think so, But
don't you guys tell me what did you think? What
did the Husky fans think? You know, I didn't think
Washington was ready, but I don't know what the vibe
is up there.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I thought they'd be a six and six, seven and
five football team from the start, Yes, and that's exactly
what they are. I think it's fair, if you're being
obviously literal, to say Washington is not ready yet to
compete with the elite of the Big Ten. That is
accurate on today's date, November the nineteenth. They are not
ready yet to compete with Penn State, Ohio State, Oregon, Indiana, whatever,
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They're not there yet. But I also think that context
is important. When you lose fifty guys and you've got
all these brand new coaches and brand new players, I
don't think anybody expected them to be ready for that now.
If we're sitting here in a year from now and
they're still getting pushed around by the elites of the
Big Ten, I think at that point you got a
little bit of a problem, and you're wondering when will
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this happen. Then the heat I think gets turned up
a little bit. I know there are some people that
are sour with Fish for some other reasons, maybe than
what's happening on the field. But I guess your expectations
for you, doub weren't very high this year either, because
you picked them eleventh in the Big Ten. So nobody
can be surprised by what UB's doing right now, right.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I mean I wasn't, but I don't know. I don't
know what a general Husky fan was. I thought that
they were gonna have several years potentially to get up
to to compete for a title. But here's the one
thing though, that you could argue Indiana, India has got
a new coach. Indiana's got a sun Belt roster, and
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Indiana is what ten and zero, So it is not
You're not, you know, necessarily relegate automatically relegated to a
five hundred season if you have roster turnover. Now Washington
had a lot of roster turnover and a new coach,
But you can do it. I'm not saying, you know,
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Fish did a bad job this year. I think Fish
did a fine job this year. I think his offense
was not as good as his defense. Uh, but I
have no problem with the job fished it. It's just
clear to me that they are not ready clearly not.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
I just think it's independing on how you spin it.
And you obviously spun it one way and talked about
that their all their wins were over nobodies and all
their losses were over good teams, and then.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
That's that's a fact.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
But you could also spin it and say all their
wins were by double digits except for one and two
of their losses were on the final play of the game,
and they had to go on the road to three
top ten teams. So it's like Oregon have to do that.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Who else in the Big ten had to do that.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Nobody had to do that. So Washington literally had the
hardest road schedule in the Big Ten and almost, I mean,
is a whisker away from being eight and three right now.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah, Willner, how's that taste?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yes, they the Big Ten kind of screwed them with
the schedule. I agree. They're the only one of the
four West Coast teams that had to go across the
country four times. I don't know how that happened. And
I don't know if that is like a regular piece
of the schedule rotation or not. I'm just judging them
on how they did, and they did. You know, they
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got beat badly my Iowa, pretty badly by Indiana with
a backup quarterback. Yeah, very badly at Penn State. I
think that they're probably gonna my guess is they're they're
going to get beat pretty badly this week. We'll see,
but they You know, there's a big difference between the
top and where Washington.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Is now, no question right now.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And the thing is each time, correct me if I'm wrong.
But I don't think did the Hussies even score twenty
points in any of their road No?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
No, no, they did not.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
No, So that's it's clear what's going on.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
The defense played very well almost every game except maybe
Penn State, right, but the offense just couldn't get to
that next level once they left Montley.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Well, John Wilner is with us.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Courtesy is simply as Seattle and Dick asked about you know,
does Landing know what you Dub is going to do?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
What do you think they should do?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Is it time to bench will Rogers, who's making three
quarters of a million bucks, to be at you, Dub,
he's the second all time leading passer in the history
of the SEC, in favor of an eighteen year old kid,
and give him his first start at Austin Stadium in
eleven days from now.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
What would you do?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I would not start him in that environment against that team,
but I would have a lot of packages and I'd
be ready to switch to him as the full time
quarterback if Rodgers struggles early. But man, you're asking a
lot for put him in that environment and one mistake
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early and all of a sudden, it's just a tornado.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
What do you think of what you've seen from Demond Williams.
I mean when he's come in, I mean his QBR
is off the charts. His completion percentages off the charts,
and I don't know if you saw the two escape
runs that he had against UCLA, but I think there's
a lot of Husky fans that think they might have
like a second coming at Kyler Murray with this kid.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Oh yeah, it was very impressive. If he can, you know,
get to the point where he can be accurate regularly
from the pocket, he's gonna be a terrific quarterback. There's
no doubt about that. You could see why they would
play him and you know, give him packages in each game.
They want to keep him around. Obviously, I think he's
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got a ton of talent. There's no doubt. It's hard
to say now you know totally project what he's gonna be,
but you gotta like what you've seen so far.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
What'd you make of what Jake Dickard said the other
day where he talked about Oregon State, he said, they're
not our buddy, they're not our pal. They would have
left us as fast as we would have left them
if we could have What do you make of what
Jake Dickardon said?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Honesty was fantastic because that is absolutely the truth. Realignment,
isn't we talked about this. It is entirely about self interest.
If Washington had chanced to go to the Big Twelve,
they would have left Oregon State behind and vice versa.
And the both schools know it. Everybody knows it, and
they got put together out of circumstances and they made
the best of it. But Lily Dickert said exactly the truth.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
John, what do you think of Oregon's scheduling, whether or
not they're fully prepared for the playoffs? I mean, we
talked about how hard the Huskies road schedule was. I
mean Oregon went to OSU, UCLA, Purdue, Michigan, and Wisconsin
and they almost lost to Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Well, I think that the Big Ten championship game is
going to basically be a de facto road game for
them because I'm expecting it. It'll be against Ohio State
and they'll be you know, ninety percent Buckeye fans there
in Indianapolis, So to me, that will help. But if
they win the Big Ten, then they are playing in
the quarterfinals in neutral site bowl games, and it would
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probably be the Rose Bowl because the committee is bound
to put the conference champs in the bowls affiliated with
those conferences, So the Big Ten champs go on the
Rose Bowl. If that's Oregon, they're gonna have a home
you know, they'll have a lot of support, is there
for sure? If they and they're not gonna have to
play a road game in the opening round because even
if they lose the Big Ten championship, they will be
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seated high enough to have a home game at US
on December twenty first, So I don't know that they're
gonna face a real tough road environment at least through
the quarter finals.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
So the CFP rankings just came out and the top
five are the same Oregon, Ohio State, Texas, Penn State, Indiana.
The big news is that Boise State is now the
fourth highest rank conference champion out of the Mountain West.
So they would actually get a buye and get to
host a game. No, they would not host a game.
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They would go to a bowl game, correct, the second
rounds of bowl game?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Is that right? Yeah, they would get they would get
a buy in the opening round, and they would go
straight into the quarterfinals, which are at neutral site.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Right, correct, So they are the fourth highest rank conference champ.
What I'm trying to figure out is Georgia beats Tennessee
and moves up two spots. Alabama beats Mercer and moves
up three spots. I mean, is that someone just not
paying attention to what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
The Committee is mailing it in, especially with Georgia, the
fact that Georgia is seven spots behind Texas. Georgia beat
Texas a month ago in Austin by fifteen points. They
have three top twenty five wins, Texas has none, and
Texas is seven spots ahead of them. It's a complete joke.
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And Georgia is the Canarian the coal mine for this
whole thing, because if they get hosed by the committee
because they have two losses, the SEC is going to
see that, and the SEC is gonna take its ball
and go home in the next couple of years and
create its own playoffs.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
We were talking about Boise there, and you wrote about
Boise this week and how much of a threat to
the Koogs and the Beeves they potentially could be as
a future power for conference selection. Talk about that with us, Well, I.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Just think you know, they get into the pack, the
new PAC twelve. That's a really good football program, and
just like Gonzaga on the basketball side, the Pac twelve
is kind of invited a football and a basketball program
that are better than either Washington State or Oregon State's
football and basketball. And if Boise he comes in and
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they win the conference regularly and they're going to the
playoff regularly as the Group of five winner, they're going
to be more attractive potentially to the Big twelve than
the Cougars or Beavers might be.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, how likely is it you think that Jake Dickert
is coaching somewhere else next year? I mean all I've
heard him do all year long is complain about nobody
coming to games. Yeah, right in Pullman, he's obviously a
two lost team that's got no shot of making the
playoff now after the lost to New Mexico, I would
kind of like to see him stay, to be honest
(14:55):
with you, but what are the odds that Jake Dickard
is coaching somewhere else next year?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
My gut is that they're increasing by the week. You know,
he's gonna I think he's gonna have some options because
this isn't it's not just this season, right. His sample
sizes multiple seasons of success in a tough gig, and
he's a Midwest guy, and I haven't like taken a
(15:21):
thorough look at what jobs might be open, but yeah,
he's gotta be frustrated. And it'll also be interesting to
see what happens with mateir right in if somebody comes
and makes a big offer for Matier and he leaves.
I don't know. I'm kind of getting the feeling that
it's more likely than not that Dicker might leave. But
(15:41):
we'll see.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
Who'd you take, Bon Knicks or Dylan Gabriel? And who
would you take the twenty twenty three Ducks or the
twenty twenty four Ducks?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Ooh, I would all right, So I would take Nick
Silver Gabriel, Okay, but I would take the twenty four
Ducks because I think the defensive line is better. You
know that guy Derrick Harmon from the Michigan State Transfer,
He's the kind of run stopping, pocket collapsing force that
(16:11):
the SEC powerhouses usually have. I don't know what he's
weighing in at three ten, three twenty, but that's the
kind of guy that's starting for an SEC defensive line
that wins the national championship. And Washington's going to have
to double team him, and he is a difference maker.
For the Ducks.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Hey, he also got his ass kick the last two
years by Washington playing for Michigan State, and now he's
doing it for Oregon. So we'll see what happens next
Saturday at Audstin Stadium.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
All right, you're back in the win column, baby.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Your four game losing streak is over air Force demolishing
Oregon State. Over the weekend, let's go for two in
a row. Buddy, Willner's winner is back on the path.
The man the Windalorean has returned. Well a vengeance. Who
do you like this weekend?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Buddy? I will take the Cougars. And I don't even
know what the footspread is, don't even care. Eight and
a half Beavers are what is it?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Eight and a half?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Oh yeah, the Beavers are in free fall. I didn't like.
They didn't have good body language, they didn't have good energy.
Their quarterback situation is a mess. That was a terrible,
terrible loss at air Force.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I think Oregon State is done, so I will take
the Cougars.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I'm sorry, it's actually twelve and a half. I apologize,
I say reading the wrong number. You like the Coups
minus the points?
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Okay? All right? I tend to agree with you.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Wazoo minus the twelve and a half is John's pick
for the week. All right, buddy, great stuff, and keep
pissing off Husky fans because it keeps driving Faine nuts
and keeps giving us content. So I appreciate that, right,
I don't want.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
To drive Fame nuts. Don't just I'm just call it
like I see it.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Why don't you guys just go out and get a
beer and you can talk it out.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Sounds that sound all right? And then Jackson I will
just hang out, all right, good stuff, John, we're talking
to ways body, see you man.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Thanks guys, all right.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
John Wilner with us likes the Cougars minus the twelve
and a half again the Beabs. Brian Schmitzer is going
to join us coming up by the way at five
forty five tonight. And we didn't get to this conversation
that Chuck and Buck had with Mike with Gene Sterator,
sorry this morning, regarding the Seahawk game.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
We can talk about that.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
And then Chuck himself has put up a bunch of
crystal ball predictions for the Mariners and he wants to
really blow up the Mariner roster. He'll join us at
six and explain why on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick on your Home for
the Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point
three kJ R FM.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I'm just done, Dick off he here. Brian Schmetzer is
gonna join us at five forty five. That's not what
I was telling Dick. By the way, No, you didn't say, Hey, Dick,
guess what Brian Schmetcher was coming on five for Jacks.
Oh really, I had no idea. He'll join us at
about fifteen minutes from now. Getting ready for the big
match against LAFC. Are they gonna win?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
The silence have to have a funny feeling, though, and
I don't trust my funny feeling, but I have a
funny feeling.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
The one thing you did not hear on the air,
because Jackson turned his mic off when I asked him
will they win?
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Was what's someone else to do?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
What's he supposed to do? The voice of the sounders,
come on. He can't go on the air and say
they're gonna lose.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
I said, this to private people in private moments, the
winner of this and I say it on the air
tonight show people, I say this on my on the air,
on my show to the night at seven, I think
the winner of this game wins MLS Cup. And I
have a weird, funny feeling about this.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Also, then we should put some money on the Sounders
to win the MLS Cup because obviously there the odds
are away. I think I saw it like sixteen to
one or something like that. Put a few of fifty
shuckles on that one, because they're clearly not sixteen to
one to win this series.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, we'll see if Brian Schweitzer agrees with that that
whoever wins this game wins the MLS car.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
He's not gonna agree with that, of course he's not.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Hey, you know, what do with him?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
You never know, You never know, So he'll join us
at five forty five. I know, I was telling Dick
Off the air that I'm just I'm very, very intrigued
by what the Seahawks are going to do with Gino
Smith because it's the same thing that always happens when
it comes to arguments like this.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
It's like the Jamal Adams thing. Right, that there was one.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Side who believed what they believed and they thought the
other side was as dumb as the day is long.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
It's the same thing with Gino Right.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
You got your Geno people, and then you got your
anti Geno people, and the Geno people like our buddy
Jackson Evans, right, who runs these Cigar Thoughts podcasts. He's
a huge Geno fan, and he thinks if you don't
believe what he's saying, then you're as dumb as anybody.
And I like Jackson a lot, and I actually like
Gino Smith a lot too. I don't think he's an
(20:48):
elite quarterback by any stretch in the imagination. I think
he's good enough. I think with a better offensive line
around him, which I hope they have next year, and
I hope that they have, you know, the next seven games,
that he he will be a better product of what
we've seen so far this season. I think it's taken
him some time for him and Grubb to kind of
get in the same page and figure things out. I
(21:08):
think he needs a strong running game, which I think
the Seahawks can have under Kenny Walker.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
But this is gonna be fascinating.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Dick, What they do with this guy over the offseason,
because it's it's like the parking lot fight scene in Anchorman, Right,
the people that love Gino and the people that think
he's overrated are gonna come with pitchforks and flame throwers
and go at each other no matter what happens with
Gino over the offseason.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Well, I'm thinking of a couple of championship coaches in
the last few years that decided good enough wasn't good enough.
And those guys are Andy Reid, who decided to trade
his twenty seventh pick in the first round and move
up seventeen spots to the ten spot to select Patrick Mahomes.
And I'm thinking about Sean McVay who decided, even though
(21:54):
Jared Goff got him to a super Bowl, he didn't
feel like Jared Goff was good enough, and he upgraded
at the quarterback position and got a guy that he
thought was significantly better in Matthew Stafford and mortgaged the
future for it, even though I didn't think it was
a good idea for them to do it, but they
did it and they won a championship. So the question
for John Schneider is is good enough good enough? Because
(22:15):
that's what Gino is. Gino is good enough to get
you a nine or ten wins. He is not good
enough to win you a Super Bowl. Right.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
But keep in mind, when the Chiefs moved up to
trade for Patrick Mahomes, they also kept Alec Smith. He
was a starter for a year and a half and
then they went to Patrick Mahomes, right, which is a
half a year.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
I forget it was a year, no full year, which
and I'm fine with that plan. Like, if the plan
is we're gonna get a quarterback, We're gonna get Shadoor Sanders,
we are gonna trade whatever it takes to get Shadoor Sanders,
and he is gonna be our guy for the future.
And we're gonna sign Gino to a two year deal
(22:56):
where really most of his guaranteed money's in year number one,
and he's the bridge starter to the guy that I've
got in the wings. I'm totally fine with that because
I'm not a big fan of throwing a rookie out
of the wind.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I mean, but what do we like, What do we
honestly think the Seahawks are going to do? Because when
I think of the possibilities, it's either.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
A cut him, or B give him that two year deal.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Why why can't they just play him?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
They could do that, but that's also not committing five years,
one hundred million dollars to him. I mean, I think
that there's this side that believes that the Seahawks might
just do something like that and say, Nope, g know's
our guy. Here's five years, one hundred and fifty million bucks,
and he's our dude for the next five seasons. I
think one of three things. Either A he plays it out,
(23:47):
B they extend him on a very short deal and
draft the rookie. Or see they just get rid of
him and they eat whatever dead money there is for
next year and they move on. I don't see that
scenario happening very likely. I think you A he gets
a new short term deal, or B he plays it out.
They they they've got to find the next star at quarterback,
(24:08):
and I don't think there's any need for the Seahawks
to go out and give Gino Smith a long term deal.
The question is do they do option A, which is
give them a two year deal, or do they do
Option B, which is just let him ride out his
current contract.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
One or the other.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Yeah, I think the least case scenario as they cut
him out right right. The second least scenario is the
five year, one d and fifty million dollars long term deal.
So here it would be more than one fifty. It'd
be like two hundred.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Let me ask you a question, because I'm looking at
one mock draft that's just CBS.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
It's one mock.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
And they've got Shador Sanders going number one two sorry,
and they got cam Ward going number three. They got
Travis Hunter going number one to the Jaguars, by the
way overall, which I kind of think that might be
a bit of a reach. But whatever, Chadur at number two,
cam Ward at number three, the next quarterback on the board. Well,
that's it. They got two guys in the first round.
So do we feel like there's a quarterback like, would
(25:03):
you move up to get cam Ward to be your quarterback?
Would you move up to get Shadoor Sanders starting quarterbacks?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
You would?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Okay, I don't know if I would either. I'm kind
of a Jackson on that. I'm a little bit concerned
about Shador and his leadership ability. I'm concerned about the
Dion side show that comes along with all I think
he's a really good player. He's a very good player.
But there's been a lot of really good players in
college football that didn't pan out in the NFL. I mean,
Sendoor Sanders is going to have to prove he can
(25:31):
throw the ball consistently under pressure in the National Football League,
and I don't know if anybody can prove that.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
I don't know if there's anybody in this class that
I love well.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
I mean, I think what you do, then if you
don't want to move up for it, you pick a
guy you really like in like that Jackson dart Range, right,
and you say we're gonna groom him, and he's gonna
be when he becomes our starter, he is going to
be ready.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
You're basically saying, we're gonna do with the what the
Falcons did with Cousins and Michael tex We're gonna give
Geno Smith a new deal, not as much as the
Falcons gave Cousins, obviously, and we're going to find a
quarterback and let him sit. And we're not going to
draft the guy in the first round like the Falcons did.
But the idea of having a established, decent, pot paid
starting quarterback with a young Bucks sitting behind him. That
(26:15):
seems to be You mentioned the Mahomes scenario, that's exactly
what they did, and that seems like mark the road
that they should go down. And the last time the
Seahawks did this was with Matt Flynn and Russell Wilson.
They had an insurance policy in Matt Flynn and they
drafted what they were hoping was the future and it
worked out a lot quicker than people.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Thought it would and a lot better by the way.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
All right, we're gonna break Brian Schmetzer, we'll join us
coming up next on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Sofie and Dick on your Home for
the Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point
three kjr FM.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Got them getting nervous for Saturday night? Are you nervous
Jackson for Saturday? Very man, I'm nervous. What if Brian
Schmetzer is nervous for Saturday? Going down there in La.
Jackson's making the trip on Friday. This is such a
big game that he's leaving this show to go to
the game on Saturday.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Jackson's a big damn deal.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I mean, Brian, what do you make of that?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Man?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
We are we are losing our producer for Friday show,
so he can Friday LA to watch you knuckleheads play
on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
I just was talking to him off the air and
I told him, I said, you better get the dress
code right. You better not be late, you better be first.
You just I I gave him the run around, so
he better be on his best behavior, especially because he's
missing your show.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
That's right, That's right.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
And you know what, you better be a big damn
deal for a good damn reason to miss this show. Well,
here we go Saturday night, seven o'clock pregame right here
on the.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
FM la FC Again.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Why does it always have to be LAFC in these
big freaking games? And can we please finally beat them?
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Yes, I'm gonna tell you yes, and I'm gonna get
into why. Look the pressure's on them. I'll just start
with that. I mean, look, they've had success. We can
play a little more free. I can use the underdog card. Look,
you go on the league website mlssoccer dot net or
whatever it is. You know they've got the rankings of
(28:17):
the remaining playoff teams. Guess who's number one. That's LAFC.
So they've got pressure on them to perform there. At home,
we can play free. That's going to help us with
our mentality.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
That's just the start.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
So you've got three weeks off after beating Houston, so
the old rest versus rust conversation comes in. So has
it broken the momentum at all? And what have you
done to simulate gameplay since then?
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, dick it, that's okay, that's the good question, fifty
million dollar question. We had a simulated scrimmage on Saturday.
It went really well. We ran them out there sixty
eight minutes. We got the physical outputs that we wanted.
Training has been good. The guys have been really good about,
(29:07):
you know, making sure they're being good professionals and working hard.
We're going to do a lot of film this week.
We'll get it right. But yeah, I mean those first
ten minutes, I might play a little more conservative. I
might play in their half of the field.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
But we're still making those decisions based on, you know,
how training looks this week.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Well.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Brian Schwetzer again with us LAFC Saturday, seven o'clock kick
is that right, Jackson thirty kick seven o'clock pregame Saturday.
Thank you right here on the FM side. Get a
couple guys back from the break. We know that, but
the injury situation, Russ Knack and Jordan Morris, we're out
for Houston. Are they back and starting for you on Saturday?
Speaker 5 (29:52):
They are back and starting for me on Saturday, Softy,
I can say that was a great deal of authority.
They both look good in training today and you know
they're they're ready to go. They're hyped up.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Love it.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
So they knocked you out of the playoffs last year,
they knocked you out of the League's Cup. This year
they knocked you out of the open cups. So you
have what called in the gambling world, they call that
triple revenge. Now do you play the triple revenge card
with your team or do you just treat this like
any other opponent.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
I haven't used that exact word, Nick, but I think
they got the message at our morning meeting today. You know, look,
we're going to go down there with the right mentality.
We're going to go down there with a good game plan.
There's no reason why we cannot win the game. If
you look at the wins that they had. You know, Okay,
there are a couple of three nothing losses in there,
(30:40):
but the way those games went out. Key for us
is not giving up a goal early in the game.
Let's keep it tight. The one nothing loss at Starfire,
the Open Cup semi final, you know we were in
that game. We were competitive. That's the type of game
we need to have down there in La.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
All right, Well, we got a little bird already at
training today. His name's Jackson Feltz and he said he
did not see Paul Rothrock out there.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
What's up with him?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
That's a guy that, as we've talked about it, has kind
of come out of nowhere to be a real key
contributor for you. How much of a surprise has he
been this year? And what's his story and why was
on he out there today?
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Well, he's on a different timetable because he is dealing
with a little bit of an issue. He'll be ready
for the game. Look, he's a tough kid, softy. I mean,
he came out of nowhere. Why did he come out
of nowhere? How did he earn a starting job? Because
he's super determined and so I'm looking at him he's
looking at me. He's not going I'm going to be ready, coach,
(31:41):
So I got to take him at his word.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
What do they do so well defensively against you?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Guys?
Speaker 6 (31:47):
You've got only one goal against him in the last
five games.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
They are a good defensive team in a sense that
against US they change it. Against Vancouver they switch to
a different tactic in the second half. Against US, they
play with the back line of five, they drop into
a deep block, and then they've got Bogush and they've
got b Wonga. They've got guys that can get out
(32:11):
on the fast break. So their transition game is kind
of who they are. It's their calling card. So the
combination of those two things, defending deep, defending well yep,
and getting out in transition, that's what we're up against.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I'll just close it with us, Brian Brian Schmetzers with
us on the air, Jackson said last segment, he thinks
whoever wins this game might win the entire damn thing.
So no pressure on you at all. But you're just
playing for the MLS Cup Championship. Apparently this weekend and
the last three elimination games against them have all come
at home.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
This one is at their place.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Does that maybe further kind of allow you to play
the US against the world card And does that change
your strategy at all this weekend?
Speaker 5 (32:52):
It's for sure going to change you both of those things.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Softy.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Look last year, you know, had we beaten LAFC in
the playoffs, had Houston at home, could have made it
in the MLS Cup. But you know some of the
guys well, actually a lot of the guys were on
the on the team in twenty nineteen. In twenty nineteen
LFC they were the darlings of the league, they were
the Supporter Shield winners, and we went down there, we
(33:17):
beat him three to one. So it's possible. I'm not
gonna use a revenge word until maybe right before the
game or you know, I'll deal that in small doses.
The players already know it, they have already got it
figured out. We're gonna go down there and have a
good performance. That's going to get us the best chance
to win. And I agree, Safty, the winner of this
(33:39):
game could very well end up playing and hosting MLS Cup.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Wow did he say There's no way he'll say that?
And he just said it on the air. I love it.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Brian, go kick their ass and we're talking a week.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
All right, goods, okay, all right, take care guys
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Hi Bud Brian Schmetzer with us, We're gonna break
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