November 25, 2024 • 35 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Hugh Millen about Geno Smith and the Seahawks offensive line, then discuss the Huskies challenge facing the Ducks in Oregon this week before reacting to some Alabama radio after the Tide’s loss.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining us on the radio show a little special edition
of Mondays with Millan because we're off on Friday obviously
for the Thanksgiving holiday. He was going to be in
for you on Wednesday when you take the day off
for the Thanksgiving holiday. Only guy not taking a day
off is me for christ six. But joining us right
now on the radio show, our buddy Huey Millan, How
are you man?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
What's happening Boyce?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
How are you good? Good?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Getting ready for Chargers Ravens the Harpob Bowl. We'll get
your thoughts on that if we have time here and
in just a moment. But coming out of the Seahat game,
You've watched all the tape, You've broken down all the film,
You've crunched all the numbers. What are your takeaways, your
big takeaways coming out of yesterday's waiting against the Cardinals.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Well, I think that the defensive efforts stopping the run
was just so dominant that I think it just reverberated
around the rest of the entire football team and all
the other phases. I mean, here was an Arizona team
that came in second in the NFL in yards per
rush at five point two. Their first downs per rush
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was number one in the NFL. They're big plays in
the running game, defined by the NFL as ten plus
yards or more on a rush attempt. They were number
one in the NFL. And and you know, here's Seattle.
They just they just stoned the Cardinals. And when you
consider that fourteen of those yards were in one play
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on third and seventeen, which is defined by the NFL
as an unsuccessful run, despite the fact that it was
a fourteen yard run, you start, you know, parsing this
stuff out. And you know, for example, looking at at
how how few plays were actually tackled by the secondary
on Cardinal runs, there was you know, only three other times,
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and there was for zero three and zero yards. I
mean the front seven, the defensive line, the linebackers, they
just played in harmony. And they absolutely stoned the Cardinals.
And I think it impacted put the It took the
Cardinals out of the uh, out of the the order
in terms of trying to play on schedule. And so
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they're facing the second lungs, they're facing the third and lungs,
and Seattle's able to convert that into pressures and sacks,
and and they prevented the big play in the passing
game just to phenomenal defensive effort.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
And I just think this We've seen three games now
and I mentioned earlier, three games against quarterbacks that aren't
Chop Liver. I mean, you're talking about Stafford and Purty
and Kyler Murray. It's not the it's not the dregs
of the NFL quarterback wise. So is it safe to
feel as a Seahawks fan like the corner has been
turned and this is the type of defense that we
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should expect for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I don't know safe.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I would just say there's signs where you say, three
in a row against you know, three division quarterbacks. I mean,
you got you know, Purdy's going to be making sixty
million at least some people say that, but he's their
franchise guy. Stafford, of course, you know, it speaks for himself.
And Kyler Murray, whether you think it was justified or not,
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is a two hundred and fifty five million dollar quarterback.
I mean they they just absolutely you know, they showed
up for three weeks against your opponents and held him
to fourteen points exactly per game. We're talking about the
defense now, you know, forgetting that pick six that Gino threw.
That that's legion of boone numbers. Now it's only it's
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only three games.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
But I think you, you know, you have a reason
to start to feel excited about where this defense can be.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, well, let's talk about Gina for a little bit.
I mean, obviously the interception was horrific. There were other
plays he made during the game that were obviously not horrific.
What'd you make of Gino's game overall?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Well, I think the type of game that if you
win it, you talk about all the things you did well.
If you lose that game, you're really focusing on what
he did poorly. And you know, you, first of all,
sixteen points generally is just not going to be enough.
That's always going to be laid at the feet of
the quarterback. That interception. Look, you could see he you know,
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he changed the line protection he thought, you know, there's
a threat of an overload of four week blitz, meaning
too is his blind side his left side. May have
changed the route combination. We don't know for sure. But
in that process that you see Buddha Baker Audible aying
out and they checked out of their blitz, went to
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a standard three deep, fourigner zone. That's the oldest zone
in football. And and you know at that point they won,
they won the chess match, and so you cannot compound,
you know, try and create something out of nothing, and
then you know, evade the pocket, try and distort the
defense and then think you have a touchdown. Look, if
this is playing professional quarterback, if you think you have
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an off script touchdown to Tyler Lockett right there, then
smoke it in there and get the touchdown kick a
pat beautiful. But that decision is made in an instant
of you know, instantaneously, and Gino Smith in that moment
is trusted with the keys to the entire franchise. He's
got the keys to the ferrari and when he makes
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an interception like that, you know it's troublesome. And when
you consider over the last two years, this is twenty
twenty three and twenty twenty four. You know, he talked
about numbers on a on a podcast. Okay, then if
you invite us to look at.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
The numbers podcast, right right.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Yeah, you know there's been there's forty eight quarterbacks who
have thrown for two hundred or more attempts. This is
twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four combined, Geno's rating
in the red zone is forty fifth out of forty eight.
Completion percentage forty fourth out of forty eight in the
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red zone. So you know, and there's some other ugly
numbers on third down that we can point to. So
that interception right there, unfortunately has been kind of like
him because he just has not been exceptional in the
red zone. Now he's been exceptional in game winning drives.
That's a real thing. He's got the most game winning
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drives over the last two years. That's situational football. But
to me, situational football the way I just think of
it as like what's a NFL practice, Like, well, Tuesday,
we have the day off. Wednesday we have you know
that's first and second down. Thursday is is mostly a
third down day, and then situational stuff on Friday, red
zone and and two minute and you know, throw it going.
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So between Thursday and Friday, that's your h that's your
specialty downs. And and so I just kind of look
and I say, well, he's one for three. He's really
good in two minute, but not good in third down,
not good, particularly not good in the red zone, so
that that aspect, it's an acknowledgement that not all players
are created equal. And so when you have those important downs,
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in those important situations, that's where you've got to merge
if you're going to be considered among the best.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
So are these agregious mistakes that he's making and multiple
against the rams? You know, big one last week and
could have had three this week. I mean, heck, he
had two balls picked off, one just wasn't corraled, and
he also had a fumble as well. How much are
these due to the offensive line and how much of
these would happen even if he had good protection.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Well, when you filter it for the pressure rate on
two and a half seconds or less, the average throw
is two point four to five from the pocket. The
NFL in their portal they say, okay, percentage of attempts,
you know, two point five seconds or less, I mean
there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Two point five is not just Hugh Millin, sorry to go,
third person pulling up a random number.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
This is something that the NFL.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You know, it's that's not my stat that's that's an
NFL stat. And then when you when you filter it
for that you know, his pressure rate is still high.
But there's others that you know, Brock Purty, CJ. Stroud,
Jalen Hurts, Matthew Stafford, Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins. There's a
number of quarterbacks who are pressured worse. So I would
just say, Dick, when you're talking about in the red zone,
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everything is just accelerated. You just have to process faster
and you know, you have to anticipate more. If you're
going to drive the throw, you got to throw it harder.
Like everything is just condensed obviously. And you know, Kurt
Warner said the best thing that was ever you know,
in his career was having played indoor football league because
because everything was condensed in there, and that made him
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a better red zone quarterback. Well, if you can kind
of lock into that that idea, then you can see
And this is not I'm not revealing anything you didn't know.
I'm just reminding you that piece of it that you know,
he's just got to be, you know, more anticipatory.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
If you're late, you hold the ball. It's a lot
worse than the red.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Zone, right, no question.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well, maybe Geno Smith should go play in the Arena
League over the summer for something, I don't know, pick
up some experience and come back to the NFL. But
Hu Millin's with us on the air, and you know,
you you mentioned something this morning about the offensive line
that caught my ear and when you said the offensive
line is not a very good pass blocking unit, they're
a worse run blocking unit. Kenny Walker got the ball
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fourteen times yesterday and they just could never ever get
a running game going. It felt like almost every time
he touched the ball there was somebody right in his
face in that game yesterday. Were you okay with the
amount of time Ryan Grubb dictated or dedicated sorry to
the run game? And what is keeping this running game
from honestly getting off the ground here?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Man, Well, I think there was a time there when
they were, you know, up thirteen to three, and you
know you had Mark Sanchez make a note of their
propensity to throw the ball there. I'm not sure if Sanchez,
you know, he comes in studies the Seahawks for a
few days and or you know, maybe the better part
of a week. You know, he didn't see it as
often as we do, so he's not aware of of Okay,
(10:02):
that sounds all well, and good, let's run the rock. Well,
you know what, second and nine is not very fun,
I think, is what uh what Ryan Grebb might be
thinking when he hears that part of the discussion. So
I would just say it's you know that they don't
get the movement. They you know they when you know,
first play of the game, you've got Lake and Thomlinson.
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You know, this is a veteran guy that used to
be a good player. First play, you know you're trying
to go wide left.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
You just say, this is a veteran guy that used
to be a good player.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
You know, I'm sorry, that just made me laugh out loud.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Okay, let's let's let's be little. And when I said,
first of all, is he a veteran, Yes he is?
He a former pro bowler?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yes? Is he a pro bowler now? No so, but.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
But you know he's doing a double team.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
And then you know he just allows allows the linebacker
to just run through the gap that he has to
be aware of, and he's late getting to him, doesn't
get a piece of him.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And you know, now all of a sudden, you've got.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Canine you know what, three four yard loss and and
and you watch the plane you go.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Freaking hate man.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
I mean, if Christian Haynes did that, I would say, Okay,
well I get it, he's a rookie. But but Lake
and Tomlins said, Okay, maybe he doesn't execute the block.
Maybe physically he gets overwhelmed, but how is he not
recognizing the run through that what we used to call
the junior Seau angle where he's trying to run underneath
as opposed over top of the chatter. He's trying to
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run underneath. You've got to come off him. You got
to make that you know, at least attempt that block him.
And I'm citing one example. I could just have a
laundry list. You know, it's just too often not communicating,
not writing, not blocking the right guy, or when even
when they're squared up and and they know who their
opponent is, you know, they just don't win on the block.
So yeah, it's a whole myriad of problems up front,
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particularly in the running game.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
How about the guy next to the guy that used
to be good? How did big Olu play yesterday?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Was a veteran who used to be a good player, Jackson,
you got to get me that drive, man.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Uh, I think Olu's doing fine, he's he's had two good, good,
you know, decent games. I mean, no news is good news.
I don't think it's been anything that, you know, no
red alarm fires. I I like how he's you know,
he's reportedly doing a really good job in the communication piece,
and and I think his uh, you know, his his
balance is pretty good. I think that he that he
(12:36):
anchors down on on the the bull rushes and so uh,
I think he's done a pretty good job. So I'm
I'm encouraged with what he might bring.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, well, I saw this where the Seahawks are thinking
about going to is It So toa Lameya, the rookie, right,
the kid from is It Utah? Is that By the way,
Donald is talking about potentially playing him. Is he is
Is he doing that just because he wants Christian Hayines
to bust his ass and practice this week and earn
(13:06):
that gig Or is he actually considering playing this guy?
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I think he's actually considering playing him.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I don't. I don't think he'd fool around with that.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I think that, you know, if if he's not Lemea,
is not getting the practice reps, then all of a sudden,
you know, everybody kind of looks around and go, what
the heck is coach talking about?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
You know?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
And you know, and and I don't. I don't think
you establish any credibility. Mike McDonald doesn't strike me as
a second jive type of guy, so I would say that, yeah,
he's absolutely considering. And now the tape that I studied
from him in college, you know, I watched him at
right tack.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I go, WHOA, that is not a tackle in this league.
That that's an inside guy. And he just doesn't have
the athleticism. But that's why tackles get moved inside.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
And you know, if he's strong enough, then that would
be an opportunity for him to play. You know, you inside,
things go faster, and guys are heavier and stronger, right
and things go a little slower. We're talking micro second
of your tackle. You don't have to process as fast
with you know, potential blitzes and and stunts on on
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either side of you and whatnot. But you know, those
guys are defense tackles, not defensive ends, and they've got
they got more strength, So you got to be able
to anchor down.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Hugh, you were there live to watch Lane Kiffin pisses
chance at a playoff away this week with a loss
of the Florida Gators. And you told us last week
you were going to take a hard look at Jackson Darty.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
What did you What did you make of him?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Well?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I thought he looked like every bit of an NFL
quarterback for you know, fifty seven minutes out of the game.
I mean, he he had some beautiful throws, you know,
NFL route tree throwing far hash corner routes and the
hasses even farther in the college game. And he had
a post route that he hit right over double coverage
for a touchdown. There was a gorgeous deep arcing ball,
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and then and he drove a touchdown pass between two safeties.
But then with the game on the line and the
last driver to in fourth quarter, he just kept throwing
Scooby snacks out there and giving the ball away and
making very poor decisions and Gators were getting their hands
on the ball. So, you know, I think, Dave, there's
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some interest in Florida football for me for obvious reasons,
but for Huskies based on the jet piece jet fish piece,
and so I think that every ardent Husky fan has
got at least one eyeball on what's going on in Gainesville.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And so you know, Florida's coming around.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
They beat LSU and Ole Miss back to back and
and so Billy Napier appears to be you know, he's
definitely coming back for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So there's some you know.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
We'll see probably be back on the hot seat if
he doesn't have success next year.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Well, hey, hey, hu, just real quick.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I know we're late, but just give me like a
minute on this if you can, and we can discuss
this more Wednesday when you when you're filling for Dick.
But Dick and I were talking if you do start
demand Williams Saturday in Eugene and he struggles and Jed
wants to go back to Will Rogers, what do you
think Will Rogers reaction is going to beat all that?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Well, I think it's been tough to be Will Rogers
all through the season. I think he's been given the
red headed step child treatment and that would just be
a continuation of that.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
You know, I don't I.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Don't know how he's wired, mate, you know, maybe be
angry and play well and clench his teeth and say
I'll show you that type of thing.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I'd be concerned.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
You know, if the whole part of the reason why
you're doing all this is to keep demand in the
right frame of mind. We could have arguments about the
merits of that and all, but then what do you
do if the last thing you remember, you know, he
remembers I understand there's gonna be a Bowl game, but
but if if he remembers going down to Eugene and
getting pulled, you know, there there's some risk. Remember now,
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when Washington won that game, was it seventy to twenty one? Yes, correct, Yeah,
well that was as you know, Dave and Dick justin
Herbert's very first start of his college career. Now, he
was able to rebound from that, but you know that
that's a tough baptism. And I'm not saying that Oregon
has the capacity to do that to Washington, but you know,
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you just have to kind of think of, Okay, what's
blue sky scenario for this, what's the what's what what
are some concerns, and then yeah, yeah, you'll make your
decisions accordable.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
That's what That's what Gonzano thinks is going to happen.
I was on his podcast today and he thinks it's
going to be a seventy twenty one twenty sixteen like
game on I'm not going to say that, but I
the only thing I'll say in that regard is if
Dan Lanning has a chance to do that, he'll do
it for sure, Yes, he'll do agreed. All right, we'll
talk Wednesday. Right here we goes, guys, all right, so
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we're got to break, Dick. I want to get your thoughts, Jackson.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
You two.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I was on with Gonzano and Wilder today on their podcast,
and you know, John John's worried it's going to be
a bloodbath on Saturday, that it could be the reverse
of twenty sixteen. Got a break and see if we
actually are concerned about that on Saturday next on ninety
three three KJRFM.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Now that de.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
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Speaker 1 (18:24):
All right, looking for the Monday night game, it's over
on ten ninety. I got the Coaches Show on nine
point fifty tonight coming up six pm with Jed and
Tony Chargers Ravens over on ten ninety and I'm telling you, man,
you might want to put a couple of coins on
the Chargers to win the AFC.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I think they're good.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, they are good plus eleven hundred right now to
win the conference. I think they took them down here
at the Queen while the game's going on. They'll put
them back up when the game's over. But they got
the number one scoring defense in the NFL. They have
the fewest turnovers in the NFL. Five times if they
coughed up the ball, and uh, Justin Herbert is kind
of picking up some steam here, man. And we know
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Jim Harbaugh. What did all of us say He's gonna win?
He's gonna win quick in l A right, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
We all wanted him to be the head coach.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
That's right. This is that's why. I mean he was.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
He was number one with a bullet and this is
exactly why.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, well, you know what I'm I'm kind of kicking myself, Dick.
I suld have done it before the game started tonight,
because if they win tonight, the odds will go down.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
How much will they go down? But they'll drop a
little bit, But.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I might, I might take your Christmas gift money, Jackson
and Dick and whatever money I was gonna spend on
your little Christmas presence there. Maybe just buy you a
win ticket on the Chargers to win the AFCUS falls.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Out, that's fine.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
And then and then you you're gonna split us to
split the winnings with it.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Let just give it to you. It's your ticket. Yeah,
I'll put you know.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Let's say I was gonna spend probably ten bucks on
each of you, So put kidding.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
That's not true.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
People.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
You are a very generous You're.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Right, at least five dollars, okay, and nothing nothing less.
So I was on with Gonzano and Wilner today. I
don't know if they've gotten the podcast up or not,
but spend some time with the two Johns today talking
about the UB Oregon game on Saturday, and John is
worried Gonzano that this could be the reverse of twenty sixteen,
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that Oregon could just completely annihilate you Dub on Saturday.
That Landing's pissed off. He's got this monkey on his back.
He's going three against you, Dub. He's got a football
team that is trying to obviously make a statement here
heading into the Big Ten Championship game. And if he's
got a chance, as Hugh said, to run it up
on you dub, he's gonna do it. You know, he's
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gonna be standing there on the sideline with his veins
popping out of his neck and his eyeballs bulging out
of their sockets on the sideline going bananas, you know,
jumping up and down like a freaking crazy man. We
concerned it all the Saturday could get out of control
the way it did for Oregon eight years ago.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Oh, I think there's a there's a reasonable chance. I mean,
what what is reasonable twenty percent chance happening. I think
there's a twenty percent chance that we just go out
of there going oh my god. And he's running it
up like Ryan Day did on din On sig On
on Saturday afternoon, and you know, not necessarily, I mean,
you don't coach signtdy that that Will Howard put out
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on the sidelines. I thought that was pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
What did he say? I didn't see that.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
No, will you see Will Howard on this on the sideline.
He was at the end of near the end of
the game. He's over on the sidelines and he takes
a puff of a fake cigarette and he throws around and.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Steps on it.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
It was it was quite well, but that was that
was a twenty three point win.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
That wasn't a fifty point win. I mean what what what?
Speaker 5 (21:50):
He was still scoring at the end. My point was
he was still scoring at the end.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I got you, because when you have eight years ago
was like akin to like, you know, assault.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
But didn't but didn't the Huskies Peterson pulled off the
gas in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Uh, I remember that numerous.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Times we could have scored eighty seven plus in that game.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, they could have scored on every drive if they
wanted to. Yeh question, I don't remember Oregon not stopping anything.
Even when you dub tried to stop scoring, they couldn't
do anything about it. But I mean, the point is
that it could happen. I don't see it, to be
honest with you, guys, and I think I'll just get
I'll just use your reasoning, Dick. I just think this
defense is too good to allow that to happen.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
No, I think you're right, and it would be one
thing the Huskies would have to let the Huskies would
have to say uncle. And if they said uncle, then
Oregon would say, oh okay, I'm still gonna twist your
arm because because the Husky's saying uncle means absolutely nothing
to Dan Lanning, and he will pour it on. I mean,
they could be up, they could be up forty five
to nothing, and he's gonna be chucking in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
There is no question in my mind, Jackson.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Are you concerned about this getting out of control on Saturday?
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Absolutely, I'm massively concerned because they I mean they're they're angry,
they're pissed off after what happened last year. We're obviously
dealing with I think question marks. Maybe internally in the program.
There's this kind of level of confidence and they already
know who the starting quarterback is. I mean, just looking
from an outsider in it's it is the question of
if it's demand or if it's will. And I think
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there's a lot of nerves, at least from the outside
looking in at the program looking at this game. And
for me, I just see an Oregon Duck team that's
just looking at this saying, all right, it's this is
between us and are undefeated, just like we were. You
know the undefeated, right, you know, in the in the
way for the Huskies last year. So I see this
as as a potential for Oregon to get up by
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at least two touchdowns at halftime, and then what does
and then what happens at halftime? Did they say guys
were going to just absolutely fut on the throat or
do they play the game a little bit differently? And
I'm afraid that they're going to say foot on throat
and just keep pushing.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
You know, I gotta be an idiot here because I'm
not worried about that at all.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Just not well, I just I just.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Don't think which is possible. They didn't look that good
last time.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
It's it's it's a combination of three or four things.
Number one, the Wisconsin game. Number two, I think Oregon's
gonna come with way too much hype and way too
much emotion, and I think their head coach is gonna
feed into it, by the way, I think they're gonna
make some mistakes because of that. And also I think
number three, I just think UB's defense is too good
to allow that to happen. All those things are a
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factor for me on on on Saturday. I mean I
think that this this Husky football team is better than
the twenty sixteen Oregon team was way better than that
team was back in the day.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
So I just don't see that happening on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And guys, I gotta tell you, I'm I'm I'm looking
at this game for Dan Lanning, it would be a
bigger loss than it would be a win. He's supposed
to win this game. He's favored by twenty points. He
is supposed to kick our ass on Saturday afternoon at
four thirty. If he wins, he goes out and does
what he's supposed to do. But if he loses, oh dude,
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he's going four against Washington.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
He's feeling it from everybody now.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
He's got to go get the ship right it against
Ohio State in the Big Ten championship game in a
neutral location. He loses this game on Saturday, he's staring
two losses in a row right in the face and
getting kicked out of a bye and having to host
the game in the first round.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Hope you're right, I mean, dude.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
And the only thing the games he struggled though, are
games that they probably were looking past, like Idaho looking
past The only one by ten Boise State. I mean,
they arrest respected Boise State, but not really. And Boys
and State. I'll play it. Boys STA should have won
that game. But I think if you play that, I
think if Oregon played Boise State in the playoffs like
he must win football game, I think Oregon wins by
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two to three touchdowns in that game. I mean, you're
probably right, But again, Wisconsin, I mean, what was Wisconsin
was like okay, whatever. They just seem to have a
whatever attitude. It's leading up towards a bye, and then
your rivalry gaming it's Washington. I mean, I hope we
can take a lot from those three games I just
mentioned and say that's really what Oregon is. They're really
not a dominant team, and if that's the case, then
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we can hang in this game. But if they are
really the dominant team that they've shown most of the season,
then I think.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
All those threads about what it should be, I think
all those are fair.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
And again I think that all the pressure is on Oregon.
I told the two Johns today that I'm not sweating
this thing at all on Saturday because I've been thinking
and I've been telling you and telling people ever since
Kitlyn Demoor took off and ever since the roster got
gutted that Oregon's gonna want to murder us, and they're
gonna want to murder us even after the game in Vegas,
and so I'm not sweating this game at all. You
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Dubb gets killed, they get killed. I mean, it's just
like Wazoo and the Apple Cup. When when Oregon typically
beats Washington, Washington's not very good, right, I mean when
Oregon was manhandling you Dub for twelve years in a row,
I pretty much stunk every year that they did that.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Yeah, at least seven or eight of those years. Okay,
they were just a media awf.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
So Oregon, look, you want to beat Washington Saturday. What
do you beat a good Why do you beat a
good Husky team? Why do you play a big, significant
game against Washington like we've had for three years in
a row or two years in a row, the last
three games.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Why do you win that?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Why do you win a game when there's actually something
that both teams are playing for.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
If you can't.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Beat a Husky football team with fifty new guys and
one hand tied behind their back, that's embarrassing all the
pressure is on Oregon to win this game and look
good doing it, by the way, Dick, So I'm not
sweating this sucker at all.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I'm kind of forward to it, to be honest with you.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I made dinner reservations for seven thirty knowing that there's
probably still gonna be five or six minutes left in
the game, and I just hope, I just hope I
got to take my phone with me to the table
and sit down. And but I don't think I'm going to.
I think I'm gonna watch the game until about seven
and then I'm gonna get in the car and I'm
gonna go to dinner because.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
We're gonna be uh, We're gonna be at Jamar's on
ma Reenview Drive and Des Moines, So swing on by
and hang out with us. Should be a fun time.
It's also Mario Bailey's birthday, by the way, so swing
on over. All right, we're gonna break Uh. There's a
lot of shaden freuda going on in Seattle towards Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
We'll explain next on ninety three three kJ A r FM, No.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
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Speaker 1 (28:37):
FMS becoming a tradition here on the radio show. We
like to take a little shaden freude and other people's
failures in this town. When the Oregon Duck fall, when
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the Niners fall, when the Oklahoma City thunder fall, and
I think now for a lot of people here in Seattle,
you can add when the Alabama crimson tide fall.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
I think for a lot of people, you and I
really aren't two of those people. But we know we
need to service the community. That's what we're all about
servicing the community in this segment because we know there's
a lot of people out there that do enjoy when
Kaylin de Boor falls flat on his face, like.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Well, Saturday, I'm not one of them, and I know
that I am in the extreme minority here in this
town because people are having a gay old time right now, man,
aren't they watching the Alabama Crimson tide struggle. I mean,
it's really the new version of youth and people are
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just enjoying the hell out of this.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Man.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Watch cannot Dave when he took that job I saw
Jalen Milroe and Kaylene in the boar and I was like,
my god, that is gonna be Heisman Trophy winning Yeah,
twelve plus win stuff. Man, he is gonna turn that
kid into a passer. It is gonna be unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Hey, they were.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
They were my pick to win the national championship because
of that dick.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Never mind what you thought when he took the job.
How about what Jalen Milroe looked like like two months
ago and what he looks like now.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
He's I mean, here the rest awesome. He was a Heisman.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Trophy favorite early in the year and now he looks terrible.
I mean, the guy cannot throw the ball at all.
But they got smoked by Oklahoma in Norman over the weekend.
They lost twenty four to three. Uh my, buddy, Ryan
Fowler are paled down there on the tide and tuscok
ok Well, he's sending me texts during the game saying, man,
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I don't know what to do anymore.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
His radio show today, here's a little sample of some
of the car on his radio show in tuscal Loosion
this afternoon.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
Check it out Tide nine tuscoluc You know what Marty,
if you don't have pride, take the crimson jersey off,
throw it in the basket, go hit the dead gun
portal last week.
Speaker 9 (31:13):
This time last week, Ryan, you and I were talking
about Alabama is going to cause a meltdown in college
football in one week. We're now talking about a legit
threat from Auburn if we come out.
Speaker 10 (31:27):
And do not come eight in the bus and force him.
Speaker 9 (31:32):
To pass the ball. Ryan, I'm telling you this staff
has to be reevaluated.
Speaker 10 (31:38):
We have a lack of leadership on this Alabama team.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Ryan.
Speaker 10 (31:44):
I was at that game and when I tell you,
during warm ups, no one was husting and busting. Everyone
was walking. What is going on with this guys? Leadership
is key and I did not see that at all
on that field on Saturday night, and it was very disappointing.
How many more excuses, how many more change the system,
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change this, do that, and we do I mean, give
me a break.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I mean they are just melting down down there. Jalen Milroe,
by the way, had ten touchdowns in the first four
games of the year, two of them against Georgia and Wisconsin.
By the way, he's got five in the last seven.
He has totally falling apart. It's like the opposite of
what happened to Jalen Hurts when he took off and
went to Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
It's amazing. This guy just cannot throw the ball.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
But I'm looking at Alabama football and I'm thinking to myself,
Number one, this is the toughest job in the history
of college football. You're taking over for the greatest coach
ever at a fan base that will give you no quarter,
no break, no slack at all. They won every game one,
and they won every game one by eighty points. Or
you're a bum right away, so they don't care that
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you're taking over for the man.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
They want to just continue.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I knew everything that happened with Nick Saban, and they
wanted to be a smooth transition.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
That's number one.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Number two, the concern for me was that I don't
know if his personality would play down there in Tuscaloosa,
because I think he got to be kind of a
ballbuster in some ways, and you gotta be kind of
a dictator in some ways to have success at a
job like that, and that's not who Caylen Debor is
at all. He's kind of an af shucks kind of
guy he says um a lot at his press conferences.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
As you know, it's just not really who he is.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
And I've always been concerned if that's the right fit
for him. Michigan maybe would have been different, but Alabama
I never thought was the right fit for him. And
then the old taken over for the man. Never want
to be the man to take over for the man.
You want to be the next guy, like Pete Carroll
was after Jim Moore took over for Mike Congrin. So look,
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I get it, Dick, A lot of fans are enjoying
the hell out of this. I don't have a lot
of that shade and freude, if any at all. For
Kaylen de Boor. I was more bummed out than angry
when he took off. He's one of the all time
great dudes I've ever been around in this sport. There's
three people I always tell people that are just magnificent
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guys before they were magnificent coaches, and it's Mike Holmgrin,
Lorenzo Romar, and Kaylen de bor. So I don't feel
that way about him, and I get that a lot
of people don't agree with me, and that's totally fine.
But I'm also not dumb enough to think that I'm
not in the minority because I am a minority.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Yeah, I mean I always worried about the potential Michigan
fit for him. I never when Nick Saban announced he's retired,
never even once thought that Kaylen de Bor would be
a candidate for that job because of just what he said.
I just think it just didn't make sense to me,
and so far through year one, it's not making sense.
That being said, they still have a thirty four or
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thirty seven percent chance to make the playoffs, so they're
not out of it. They basically have the same exact
chance to make the playoffs as the Seahawks have. And
we all think the Seahawks have a pretty dark good
chance to make the playoffs, But numerically it's the same
as Alabama's and the ESPN FPI. I mean, maybe this
is just such an sec shaded ESPN thing. They got
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Alabama fourth in the country still so because their strength
to schedule exactly right
Joining us on the radio show a little special edition
of Mondays with Millan because we're off on Friday obviously
for the Thanksgiving holiday. He was going to be in
for you on Wednesday when you take the day off
for the Thanksgiving holiday. Only guy not taking a day
off is me for christ six. But joining us right
now on the radio show, our buddy Huey Millan, How
are you man?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
What's happening Boyce?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
How are you good? Good?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Getting ready for Chargers Ravens the Harpob Bowl. We'll get
your thoughts on that if we have time here and
in just a moment. But coming out of the Seahat game,
You've watched all the tape, You've broken down all the film,
You've crunched all the numbers. What are your takeaways, your
big takeaways coming out of yesterday's waiting against the Cardinals.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Well, I think that the defensive efforts stopping the run
was just so dominant that I think it just reverberated
around the rest of the entire football team and all
the other phases. I mean, here was an Arizona team
that came in second in the NFL in yards per
rush at five point two. Their first downs per rush
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was number one in the NFL. They're big plays in
the running game, defined by the NFL as ten plus
yards or more on a rush attempt. They were number
one in the NFL. And and you know, here's Seattle.
They just they just stoned the Cardinals. And when you
consider that fourteen of those yards were in one play
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on third and seventeen, which is defined by the NFL
as an unsuccessful run, despite the fact that it was
a fourteen yard run, you start, you know, parsing this
stuff out. And you know, for example, looking at at
how how few plays were actually tackled by the secondary
on Cardinal runs, there was you know, only three other times,
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and there was for zero three and zero yards. I
mean the front seven, the defensive line, the linebackers, they
just played in harmony. And they absolutely stoned the Cardinals.
And I think it impacted put the It took the
Cardinals out of the uh, out of the the order
in terms of trying to play on schedule. And so
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they're facing the second lungs, they're facing the third and lungs,
and Seattle's able to convert that into pressures and sacks,
and and they prevented the big play in the passing
game just to phenomenal defensive effort.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
And I just think this We've seen three games now
and I mentioned earlier, three games against quarterbacks that aren't
Chop Liver. I mean, you're talking about Stafford and Purty
and Kyler Murray. It's not the it's not the dregs
of the NFL quarterback wise. So is it safe to
feel as a Seahawks fan like the corner has been
turned and this is the type of defense that we
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should expect for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I don't know safe.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I would just say there's signs where you say, three
in a row against you know, three division quarterbacks. I mean,
you got you know, Purdy's going to be making sixty
million at least some people say that, but he's their
franchise guy. Stafford, of course, you know, it speaks for himself.
And Kyler Murray, whether you think it was justified or not,
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is a two hundred and fifty five million dollar quarterback.
I mean they they just absolutely you know, they showed
up for three weeks against your opponents and held him
to fourteen points exactly per game. We're talking about the
defense now, you know, forgetting that pick six that Gino threw.
That that's legion of boone numbers. Now it's only it's
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only three games.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
But I think you, you know, you have a reason
to start to feel excited about where this defense can be.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, well, let's talk about Gina for a little bit.
I mean, obviously the interception was horrific. There were other
plays he made during the game that were obviously not horrific.
What'd you make of Gino's game overall?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Well, I think the type of game that if you
win it, you talk about all the things you did well.
If you lose that game, you're really focusing on what
he did poorly. And you know, you, first of all,
sixteen points generally is just not going to be enough.
That's always going to be laid at the feet of
the quarterback. That interception. Look, you could see he you know,
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he changed the line protection he thought, you know, there's
a threat of an overload of four week blitz, meaning
too is his blind side his left side. May have
changed the route combination. We don't know for sure. But
in that process that you see Buddha Baker Audible aying
out and they checked out of their blitz, went to
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a standard three deep, fourigner zone. That's the oldest zone
in football. And and you know at that point they won,
they won the chess match, and so you cannot compound,
you know, try and create something out of nothing, and
then you know, evade the pocket, try and distort the
defense and then think you have a touchdown. Look, if
this is playing professional quarterback, if you think you have
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an off script touchdown to Tyler Lockett right there, then
smoke it in there and get the touchdown kick a
pat beautiful. But that decision is made in an instant
of you know, instantaneously, and Gino Smith in that moment
is trusted with the keys to the entire franchise. He's
got the keys to the ferrari and when he makes
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an interception like that, you know it's troublesome. And when
you consider over the last two years, this is twenty
twenty three and twenty twenty four. You know, he talked
about numbers on a on a podcast. Okay, then if
you invite us to look at.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
The numbers podcast, right right.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Yeah, you know there's been there's forty eight quarterbacks who
have thrown for two hundred or more attempts. This is
twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four combined, Geno's rating
in the red zone is forty fifth out of forty eight.
Completion percentage forty fourth out of forty eight in the
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red zone. So you know, and there's some other ugly
numbers on third down that we can point to. So
that interception right there, unfortunately has been kind of like
him because he just has not been exceptional in the
red zone. Now he's been exceptional in game winning drives.
That's a real thing. He's got the most game winning
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drives over the last two years. That's situational football. But
to me, situational football the way I just think of
it as like what's a NFL practice, Like, well, Tuesday,
we have the day off. Wednesday we have you know
that's first and second down. Thursday is is mostly a
third down day, and then situational stuff on Friday, red
zone and and two minute and you know, throw it going.
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So between Thursday and Friday, that's your h that's your
specialty downs. And and so I just kind of look
and I say, well, he's one for three. He's really
good in two minute, but not good in third down,
not good, particularly not good in the red zone, so
that that aspect, it's an acknowledgement that not all players
are created equal. And so when you have those important downs,
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in those important situations, that's where you've got to merge
if you're going to be considered among the best.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
So are these agregious mistakes that he's making and multiple
against the rams? You know, big one last week and
could have had three this week. I mean, heck, he
had two balls picked off, one just wasn't corraled, and
he also had a fumble as well. How much are
these due to the offensive line and how much of
these would happen even if he had good protection.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Well, when you filter it for the pressure rate on
two and a half seconds or less, the average throw
is two point four to five from the pocket. The
NFL in their portal they say, okay, percentage of attempts,
you know, two point five seconds or less, I mean
there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Two point five is not just Hugh Millin, sorry to go,
third person pulling up a random number.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
This is something that the NFL.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You know, it's that's not my stat that's that's an
NFL stat. And then when you when you filter it
for that you know, his pressure rate is still high.
But there's others that you know, Brock Purty, CJ. Stroud,
Jalen Hurts, Matthew Stafford, Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins. There's a
number of quarterbacks who are pressured worse. So I would
just say, Dick, when you're talking about in the red zone,
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everything is just accelerated. You just have to process faster
and you know, you have to anticipate more. If you're
going to drive the throw, you got to throw it harder.
Like everything is just condensed obviously. And you know, Kurt
Warner said the best thing that was ever you know,
in his career was having played indoor football league because
because everything was condensed in there, and that made him
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a better red zone quarterback. Well, if you can kind
of lock into that that idea, then you can see
And this is not I'm not revealing anything you didn't know.
I'm just reminding you that piece of it that you know,
he's just got to be, you know, more anticipatory.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
If you're late, you hold the ball. It's a lot
worse than the red.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Zone, right, no question.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well, maybe Geno Smith should go play in the Arena
League over the summer for something, I don't know, pick
up some experience and come back to the NFL. But
Hu Millin's with us on the air, and you know,
you you mentioned something this morning about the offensive line
that caught my ear and when you said the offensive
line is not a very good pass blocking unit, they're
a worse run blocking unit. Kenny Walker got the ball
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fourteen times yesterday and they just could never ever get
a running game going. It felt like almost every time
he touched the ball there was somebody right in his
face in that game yesterday. Were you okay with the
amount of time Ryan Grubb dictated or dedicated sorry to
the run game? And what is keeping this running game
from honestly getting off the ground here?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Man, Well, I think there was a time there when
they were, you know, up thirteen to three, and you
know you had Mark Sanchez make a note of their
propensity to throw the ball there. I'm not sure if Sanchez,
you know, he comes in studies the Seahawks for a
few days and or you know, maybe the better part
of a week. You know, he didn't see it as
often as we do, so he's not aware of of Okay,
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that sounds all well, and good, let's run the rock. Well,
you know what, second and nine is not very fun,
I think, is what uh what Ryan Grebb might be
thinking when he hears that part of the discussion. So
I would just say it's you know that they don't
get the movement. They you know they when you know,
first play of the game, you've got Lake and Thomlinson.
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You know, this is a veteran guy that used to
be a good player. First play, you know you're trying
to go wide left.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
You just say, this is a veteran guy that used
to be a good player.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
You know, I'm sorry, that just made me laugh out loud.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Okay, let's let's let's be little. And when I said,
first of all, is he a veteran, Yes he is?
He a former pro bowler?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yes? Is he a pro bowler now? No so, but.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
But you know he's doing a double team.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
And then you know he just allows allows the linebacker
to just run through the gap that he has to
be aware of, and he's late getting to him, doesn't
get a piece of him.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And you know, now all of a sudden, you've got.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Canine you know what, three four yard loss and and
and you watch the plane you go.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Freaking hate man.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
I mean, if Christian Haynes did that, I would say, Okay,
well I get it, he's a rookie. But but Lake
and Tomlins said, Okay, maybe he doesn't execute the block.
Maybe physically he gets overwhelmed, but how is he not
recognizing the run through that what we used to call
the junior Seau angle where he's trying to run underneath
as opposed over top of the chatter. He's trying to
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run underneath. You've got to come off him. You got
to make that you know, at least attempt that block him.
And I'm citing one example. I could just have a
laundry list. You know, it's just too often not communicating,
not writing, not blocking the right guy, or when even
when they're squared up and and they know who their
opponent is, you know, they just don't win on the block.
So yeah, it's a whole myriad of problems up front,
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particularly in the running game.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
How about the guy next to the guy that used
to be good? How did big Olu play yesterday?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Was a veteran who used to be a good player, Jackson,
you got to get me that drive, man.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Uh, I think Olu's doing fine, he's he's had two good, good,
you know, decent games. I mean, no news is good news.
I don't think it's been anything that, you know, no
red alarm fires. I I like how he's you know,
he's reportedly doing a really good job in the communication piece,
and and I think his uh, you know, his his
balance is pretty good. I think that he that he
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anchors down on on the the bull rushes and so uh,
I think he's done a pretty good job. So I'm
I'm encouraged with what he might bring.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, well, I saw this where the Seahawks are thinking
about going to is It So toa Lameya, the rookie, right,
the kid from is It Utah? Is that By the way,
Donald is talking about potentially playing him. Is he is
Is he doing that just because he wants Christian Hayines
to bust his ass and practice this week and earn
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that gig Or is he actually considering playing this guy?
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I think he's actually considering playing him.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I don't. I don't think he'd fool around with that.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I think that, you know, if if he's not Lemea,
is not getting the practice reps, then all of a sudden,
you know, everybody kind of looks around and go, what
the heck is coach talking about?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
You know?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
And you know, and and I don't. I don't think
you establish any credibility. Mike McDonald doesn't strike me as
a second jive type of guy, so I would say that, yeah,
he's absolutely considering. And now the tape that I studied
from him in college, you know, I watched him at
right tack.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I go, WHOA, that is not a tackle in this league.
That that's an inside guy. And he just doesn't have
the athleticism. But that's why tackles get moved inside.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
And you know, if he's strong enough, then that would
be an opportunity for him to play. You know, you inside,
things go faster, and guys are heavier and stronger, right
and things go a little slower. We're talking micro second
of your tackle. You don't have to process as fast
with you know, potential blitzes and and stunts on on
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either side of you and whatnot. But you know, those
guys are defense tackles, not defensive ends, and they've got
they got more strength, So you got to be able
to anchor down.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Hugh, you were there live to watch Lane Kiffin pisses
chance at a playoff away this week with a loss
of the Florida Gators. And you told us last week
you were going to take a hard look at Jackson Darty.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
What did you What did you make of him?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Well?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I thought he looked like every bit of an NFL
quarterback for you know, fifty seven minutes out of the game.
I mean, he he had some beautiful throws, you know,
NFL route tree throwing far hash corner routes and the
hasses even farther in the college game. And he had
a post route that he hit right over double coverage
for a touchdown. There was a gorgeous deep arcing ball,
(14:59):
and then and he drove a touchdown pass between two safeties.
But then with the game on the line and the
last driver to in fourth quarter, he just kept throwing
Scooby snacks out there and giving the ball away and
making very poor decisions and Gators were getting their hands
on the ball. So, you know, I think, Dave, there's
(15:21):
some interest in Florida football for me for obvious reasons,
but for Huskies based on the jet piece jet fish piece,
and so I think that every ardent Husky fan has
got at least one eyeball on what's going on in Gainesville.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And so you know, Florida's coming around.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
They beat LSU and Ole Miss back to back and
and so Billy Napier appears to be you know, he's
definitely coming back for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So there's some you know.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
We'll see probably be back on the hot seat if
he doesn't have success next year.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Well, hey, hey, hu, just real quick.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I know we're late, but just give me like a
minute on this if you can, and we can discuss
this more Wednesday when you when you're filling for Dick.
But Dick and I were talking if you do start
demand Williams Saturday in Eugene and he struggles and Jed
wants to go back to Will Rogers, what do you
think Will Rogers reaction is going to beat all that?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Well, I think it's been tough to be Will Rogers
all through the season. I think he's been given the
red headed step child treatment and that would just be
a continuation of that.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
You know, I don't I.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Don't know how he's wired, mate, you know, maybe be
angry and play well and clench his teeth and say
I'll show you that type of thing.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I'd be concerned.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
You know, if the whole part of the reason why
you're doing all this is to keep demand in the
right frame of mind. We could have arguments about the
merits of that and all, but then what do you
do if the last thing you remember, you know, he
remembers I understand there's gonna be a Bowl game, but
but if if he remembers going down to Eugene and
getting pulled, you know, there there's some risk. Remember now,
(16:59):
when Washington won that game, was it seventy to twenty one? Yes, correct, Yeah,
well that was as you know, Dave and Dick justin
Herbert's very first start of his college career. Now, he
was able to rebound from that, but you know that
that's a tough baptism. And I'm not saying that Oregon
has the capacity to do that to Washington, but you know,
(17:21):
you just have to kind of think of, Okay, what's
blue sky scenario for this, what's the what's what what
are some concerns, and then yeah, yeah, you'll make your
decisions accordable.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
That's what That's what Gonzano thinks is going to happen.
I was on his podcast today and he thinks it's
going to be a seventy twenty one twenty sixteen like
game on I'm not going to say that, but I
the only thing I'll say in that regard is if
Dan Lanning has a chance to do that, he'll do
it for sure, Yes, he'll do agreed. All right, we'll
talk Wednesday. Right here we goes, guys, all right, so
(17:50):
we're got to break, Dick. I want to get your thoughts, Jackson.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
You two.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I was on with Gonzano and Wilder today on their podcast,
and you know, John John's worried it's going to be
a bloodbath on Saturday, that it could be the reverse
of twenty sixteen. Got a break and see if we
actually are concerned about that on Saturday next on ninety
three three KJRFM.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Now that de.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
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Speaker 1 (18:24):
All right, looking for the Monday night game, it's over
on ten ninety. I got the Coaches Show on nine
point fifty tonight coming up six pm with Jed and
Tony Chargers Ravens over on ten ninety and I'm telling you, man,
you might want to put a couple of coins on
the Chargers to win the AFC.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I think they're good.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, they are good plus eleven hundred right now to
win the conference. I think they took them down here
at the Queen while the game's going on. They'll put
them back up when the game's over. But they got
the number one scoring defense in the NFL. They have
the fewest turnovers in the NFL. Five times if they
coughed up the ball, and uh, Justin Herbert is kind
of picking up some steam here, man. And we know
(19:07):
Jim Harbaugh. What did all of us say He's gonna win?
He's gonna win quick in l A right, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
We all wanted him to be the head coach.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
That's right. This is that's why. I mean he was.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
He was number one with a bullet and this is
exactly why.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, well, you know what I'm I'm kind of kicking myself, Dick.
I suld have done it before the game started tonight,
because if they win tonight, the odds will go down.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
How much will they go down? But they'll drop a
little bit, But.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I might, I might take your Christmas gift money, Jackson
and Dick and whatever money I was gonna spend on
your little Christmas presence there. Maybe just buy you a
win ticket on the Chargers to win the AFCUS falls.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Out, that's fine.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
And then and then you you're gonna split us to
split the winnings with it.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Let just give it to you. It's your ticket. Yeah,
I'll put you know.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Let's say I was gonna spend probably ten bucks on
each of you, So put kidding.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
That's not true.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
People.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
You are a very generous You're.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Right, at least five dollars, okay, and nothing nothing less.
So I was on with Gonzano and Wilner today. I
don't know if they've gotten the podcast up or not,
but spend some time with the two Johns today talking
about the UB Oregon game on Saturday, and John is
worried Gonzano that this could be the reverse of twenty sixteen,
(20:25):
that Oregon could just completely annihilate you Dub on Saturday.
That Landing's pissed off. He's got this monkey on his back.
He's going three against you, Dub. He's got a football
team that is trying to obviously make a statement here
heading into the Big Ten Championship game. And if he's
got a chance, as Hugh said, to run it up
on you dub, he's gonna do it. You know, he's
(20:47):
gonna be standing there on the sideline with his veins
popping out of his neck and his eyeballs bulging out
of their sockets on the sideline going bananas, you know,
jumping up and down like a freaking crazy man. We
concerned it all the Saturday could get out of control
the way it did for Oregon eight years ago.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Oh, I think there's a there's a reasonable chance. I mean,
what what is reasonable twenty percent chance happening. I think
there's a twenty percent chance that we just go out
of there going oh my god. And he's running it
up like Ryan Day did on din On sig On
on Saturday afternoon, and you know, not necessarily, I mean,
you don't coach signtdy that that Will Howard put out
(21:27):
on the sidelines. I thought that was pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
What did he say? I didn't see that.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
No, will you see Will Howard on this on the sideline.
He was at the end of near the end of
the game. He's over on the sidelines and he takes
a puff of a fake cigarette and he throws around and.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Steps on it.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
It was it was quite well, but that was that
was a twenty three point win.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
That wasn't a fifty point win. I mean what what what?
Speaker 5 (21:50):
He was still scoring at the end. My point was
he was still scoring at the end.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I got you, because when you have eight years ago
was like akin to like, you know, assault.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
But didn't but didn't the Huskies Peterson pulled off the
gas in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Uh, I remember that numerous.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Times we could have scored eighty seven plus in that game.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, they could have scored on every drive if they
wanted to. Yeh question, I don't remember Oregon not stopping anything.
Even when you dub tried to stop scoring, they couldn't
do anything about it. But I mean, the point is
that it could happen. I don't see it, to be
honest with you, guys, and I think I'll just get
I'll just use your reasoning, Dick. I just think this
defense is too good to allow that to happen.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
No, I think you're right, and it would be one
thing the Huskies would have to let the Huskies would
have to say uncle. And if they said uncle, then
Oregon would say, oh okay, I'm still gonna twist your
arm because because the Husky's saying uncle means absolutely nothing
to Dan Lanning, and he will pour it on. I mean,
they could be up, they could be up forty five
to nothing, and he's gonna be chucking in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
There is no question in my mind, Jackson.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Are you concerned about this getting out of control on Saturday?
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Absolutely, I'm massively concerned because they I mean they're they're angry,
they're pissed off after what happened last year. We're obviously
dealing with I think question marks. Maybe internally in the program.
There's this kind of level of confidence and they already
know who the starting quarterback is. I mean, just looking
from an outsider in it's it is the question of
if it's demand or if it's will. And I think
(23:20):
there's a lot of nerves, at least from the outside
looking in at the program looking at this game. And
for me, I just see an Oregon Duck team that's
just looking at this saying, all right, it's this is
between us and are undefeated, just like we were. You
know the undefeated, right, you know, in the in the
way for the Huskies last year. So I see this
as as a potential for Oregon to get up by
(23:41):
at least two touchdowns at halftime, and then what does
and then what happens at halftime? Did they say guys
were going to just absolutely fut on the throat or
do they play the game a little bit differently? And
I'm afraid that they're going to say foot on throat
and just keep pushing.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
You know, I gotta be an idiot here because I'm
not worried about that at all.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Just not well, I just I just.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Don't think which is possible. They didn't look that good
last time.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
It's it's it's a combination of three or four things.
Number one, the Wisconsin game. Number two, I think Oregon's
gonna come with way too much hype and way too
much emotion, and I think their head coach is gonna
feed into it, by the way, I think they're gonna
make some mistakes because of that. And also I think
number three, I just think UB's defense is too good
to allow that to happen. All those things are a
(24:29):
factor for me on on on Saturday. I mean I
think that this this Husky football team is better than
the twenty sixteen Oregon team was way better than that
team was back in the day.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
So I just don't see that happening on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And guys, I gotta tell you, I'm I'm I'm looking
at this game for Dan Lanning, it would be a
bigger loss than it would be a win. He's supposed
to win this game. He's favored by twenty points. He
is supposed to kick our ass on Saturday afternoon at
four thirty. If he wins, he goes out and does
what he's supposed to do. But if he loses, oh dude,
(25:07):
he's going four against Washington.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
He's feeling it from everybody now.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
He's got to go get the ship right it against
Ohio State in the Big Ten championship game in a
neutral location. He loses this game on Saturday, he's staring
two losses in a row right in the face and
getting kicked out of a bye and having to host
the game in the first round.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Hope you're right, I mean, dude.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
And the only thing the games he struggled though, are
games that they probably were looking past, like Idaho looking
past The only one by ten Boise State. I mean,
they arrest respected Boise State, but not really. And Boys
and State. I'll play it. Boys STA should have won
that game. But I think if you play that, I
think if Oregon played Boise State in the playoffs like
he must win football game, I think Oregon wins by
(25:52):
two to three touchdowns in that game. I mean, you're
probably right, But again, Wisconsin, I mean, what was Wisconsin
was like okay, whatever. They just seem to have a
whatever attitude. It's leading up towards a bye, and then
your rivalry gaming it's Washington. I mean, I hope we
can take a lot from those three games I just
mentioned and say that's really what Oregon is. They're really
not a dominant team, and if that's the case, then
(26:14):
we can hang in this game. But if they are
really the dominant team that they've shown most of the season,
then I think.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
All those threads about what it should be, I think
all those are fair.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
And again I think that all the pressure is on Oregon.
I told the two Johns today that I'm not sweating
this thing at all on Saturday because I've been thinking
and I've been telling you and telling people ever since
Kitlyn Demoor took off and ever since the roster got
gutted that Oregon's gonna want to murder us, and they're
gonna want to murder us even after the game in Vegas,
and so I'm not sweating this game at all. You
(26:45):
Dubb gets killed, they get killed. I mean, it's just
like Wazoo and the Apple Cup. When when Oregon typically
beats Washington, Washington's not very good, right, I mean when
Oregon was manhandling you Dub for twelve years in a row,
I pretty much stunk every year that they did that.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Yeah, at least seven or eight of those years. Okay,
they were just a media awf.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
So Oregon, look, you want to beat Washington Saturday. What
do you beat a good Why do you beat a
good Husky team? Why do you play a big, significant
game against Washington like we've had for three years in
a row or two years in a row, the last
three games.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Why do you win that?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Why do you win a game when there's actually something
that both teams are playing for.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
If you can't.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Beat a Husky football team with fifty new guys and
one hand tied behind their back, that's embarrassing all the
pressure is on Oregon to win this game and look
good doing it, by the way, Dick, So I'm not
sweating this sucker at all.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I'm kind of forward to it, to be honest with you.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I made dinner reservations for seven thirty knowing that there's
probably still gonna be five or six minutes left in
the game, and I just hope, I just hope I
got to take my phone with me to the table
and sit down. And but I don't think I'm going to.
I think I'm gonna watch the game until about seven
and then I'm gonna get in the car and I'm
gonna go to dinner because.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
We're gonna be uh, We're gonna be at Jamar's on
ma Reenview Drive and Des Moines, So swing on by
and hang out with us. Should be a fun time.
It's also Mario Bailey's birthday, by the way, so swing
on over. All right, we're gonna break Uh. There's a
lot of shaden freuda going on in Seattle towards Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
We'll explain next on ninety three three kJ A r FM, No.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
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Speaker 1 (28:37):
FMS becoming a tradition here on the radio show. We
like to take a little shaden freude and other people's
failures in this town. When the Oregon Duck fall, when
(29:00):
the Niners fall, when the Oklahoma City thunder fall, and
I think now for a lot of people here in Seattle,
you can add when the Alabama crimson tide fall.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
I think for a lot of people, you and I
really aren't two of those people. But we know we
need to service the community. That's what we're all about
servicing the community in this segment because we know there's
a lot of people out there that do enjoy when
Kaylin de Boor falls flat on his face, like.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Well, Saturday, I'm not one of them, and I know
that I am in the extreme minority here in this
town because people are having a gay old time right now, man,
aren't they watching the Alabama Crimson tide struggle. I mean,
it's really the new version of youth and people are
(29:50):
just enjoying the hell out of this.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Man.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Watch cannot Dave when he took that job I saw
Jalen Milroe and Kaylene in the boar and I was like,
my god, that is gonna be Heisman Trophy winning Yeah,
twelve plus win stuff. Man, he is gonna turn that
kid into a passer. It is gonna be unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Hey, they were.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
They were my pick to win the national championship because
of that dick.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Never mind what you thought when he took the job.
How about what Jalen Milroe looked like like two months
ago and what he looks like now.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
He's I mean, here the rest awesome. He was a Heisman.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Trophy favorite early in the year and now he looks terrible.
I mean, the guy cannot throw the ball at all.
But they got smoked by Oklahoma in Norman over the weekend.
They lost twenty four to three. Uh my, buddy, Ryan
Fowler are paled down there on the tide and tuscok
ok Well, he's sending me texts during the game saying, man,
(30:53):
I don't know what to do anymore.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
His radio show today, here's a little sample of some
of the car on his radio show in tuscal Loosion
this afternoon.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
Check it out Tide nine tuscoluc You know what Marty,
if you don't have pride, take the crimson jersey off,
throw it in the basket, go hit the dead gun
portal last week.
Speaker 9 (31:13):
This time last week, Ryan, you and I were talking
about Alabama is going to cause a meltdown in college
football in one week. We're now talking about a legit
threat from Auburn if we come out.
Speaker 10 (31:27):
And do not come eight in the bus and force him.
Speaker 9 (31:32):
To pass the ball. Ryan, I'm telling you this staff
has to be reevaluated.
Speaker 10 (31:38):
We have a lack of leadership on this Alabama team.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Ryan.
Speaker 10 (31:44):
I was at that game and when I tell you,
during warm ups, no one was husting and busting. Everyone
was walking. What is going on with this guys? Leadership
is key and I did not see that at all
on that field on Saturday night, and it was very disappointing.
How many more excuses, how many more change the system,
(32:08):
change this, do that, and we do I mean, give
me a break.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I mean they are just melting down down there. Jalen Milroe,
by the way, had ten touchdowns in the first four
games of the year, two of them against Georgia and Wisconsin.
By the way, he's got five in the last seven.
He has totally falling apart. It's like the opposite of
what happened to Jalen Hurts when he took off and
went to Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
It's amazing. This guy just cannot throw the ball.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
But I'm looking at Alabama football and I'm thinking to myself,
Number one, this is the toughest job in the history
of college football. You're taking over for the greatest coach
ever at a fan base that will give you no quarter,
no break, no slack at all. They won every game one,
and they won every game one by eighty points. Or
you're a bum right away, so they don't care that
(32:57):
you're taking over for the man.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
They want to just continue.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I knew everything that happened with Nick Saban, and they
wanted to be a smooth transition.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
That's number one.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Number two, the concern for me was that I don't
know if his personality would play down there in Tuscaloosa,
because I think he got to be kind of a
ballbuster in some ways, and you gotta be kind of
a dictator in some ways to have success at a
job like that, and that's not who Caylen Debor is
at all. He's kind of an af shucks kind of
guy he says um a lot at his press conferences.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
As you know, it's just not really who he is.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
And I've always been concerned if that's the right fit
for him. Michigan maybe would have been different, but Alabama
I never thought was the right fit for him. And
then the old taken over for the man. Never want
to be the man to take over for the man.
You want to be the next guy, like Pete Carroll
was after Jim Moore took over for Mike Congrin. So look,
(33:53):
I get it, Dick, A lot of fans are enjoying
the hell out of this. I don't have a lot
of that shade and freude, if any at all. For
Kaylen de Boor. I was more bummed out than angry
when he took off. He's one of the all time
great dudes I've ever been around in this sport. There's
three people I always tell people that are just magnificent
(34:14):
guys before they were magnificent coaches, and it's Mike Holmgrin,
Lorenzo Romar, and Kaylen de bor. So I don't feel
that way about him, and I get that a lot
of people don't agree with me, and that's totally fine.
But I'm also not dumb enough to think that I'm
not in the minority because I am a minority.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Yeah, I mean I always worried about the potential Michigan
fit for him. I never when Nick Saban announced he's retired,
never even once thought that Kaylen de Bor would be
a candidate for that job because of just what he said.
I just think it just didn't make sense to me,
and so far through year one, it's not making sense.
That being said, they still have a thirty four or
(34:51):
thirty seven percent chance to make the playoffs, so they're
not out of it. They basically have the same exact
chance to make the playoffs as the Seahawks have. And
we all think the Seahawks have a pretty dark good
chance to make the playoffs, But numerically it's the same
as Alabama's and the ESPN FPI. I mean, maybe this
is just such an sec shaded ESPN thing. They got
(35:13):
Alabama fourth in the country still so because their strength
to schedule exactly right
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