November 26, 2024 • 45 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Jon Wilner about UW going to Oregon this weekend and more college football, then talk to Sounders Head Coach Brian Schmetzer about making the West Final, then preview the Jets with Cousin Evan.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Everybody's Friend, John Wilner, John, How are you?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I'm good? Thanks? How you guys?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
We're good. We're good.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So, Greg and Mario we're just in here for the
Husky Hanks show that we do every Tuesday. And I
asked those guys to give us a pathway to victory
for you, Dub on Saturday, and Greg said, the pathway
to victory is through Dan Lanning's dipstick brain and having
him do something stupid that Washington can take advantage of.
(01:25):
So what about you. If there's a path to victory
for you, Dub, what does it look like?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Well?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
I think certainly Oregon would have to contribute to Washington's victory.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Right.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
That could be with Lanning doing his ultra aggressive, slash
reckless decisions on fourth down and in the red zone.
It could be some turnovers, it could be special teams breakdowns.
But I think that the only way Washington could win
is if they get help.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
They got to play very well and.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
They got to get some help because other it's just
gonna be it's too tough. The Oregon's got too much talented,
too many of the positions.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
John, we're giving you full power to name the starting
quarterback for Washington. Who are you naming?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
I would go with Williams even though it's such a
hard environment. I think the Huskies have got to do
something different. Now, I don't think Williams can win them
the game. What I would see is they got a
couple a package of plays for the first couple series
that Oregon is not ready for that they can use
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Williams with and they can move the ball and maybe
get in the end zone once or twice until Oregon
adjust what they're seeing. But that could be better than
anything they get with Rogers, because Oregon's gonna be ready
for all that stuff.
Speaker 8 (02:49):
Now.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
The Huskies they need some kind of element of surprise, ye,
something that Oregon's not ready for.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Well.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I think at the end, the question is if you
go with them on Williams, And we asked Mario Bailey
this question last hour. Are you sticking with him no
matter what or if the offense begins to struggle, do
you dare go back to the guy that you just
bench to come in and save your bacon?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (03:10):
I would like it's like a Game seven in the
World Series, all pitchers are available.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I would do whatever it took.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
If I was Jedfish, if that means going to Rogers,
I'd go to Rogers.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Absolutely, I do whatever whatever I can do to win
the game. And you know will Rodgers is a veteran,
and I would think that even if he's benched, Yeah,
he'd be ready to come in and that would be
a great story. Right, he comes in and does well
and leads them either to victory or a super close game.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, Why do you believe that? Why do you believe
that he would be of that mindset and not just
kind of checked out, pissed off, angry, salty about getting
replaced by an eighteen year old freshman.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
I mean, he might be, but I just think a
lot of these kids are pretty mature, especially the ones
that have schools and dealt with this kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
You know. Just I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I'm just guessing that there's a chance he would react
like that. Now, Fish should have a pretty good idea
of what he's gonna get, and if he senses that
Rogers has checked out, then you don't go to him.
But if Williams is struggling and you think you can
get something out of Rogers, I wouldn't hesitate for a
second to do it.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Both these teams had an early season by and a
late season by.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Why is that?
Speaker 7 (04:28):
Is that just kind of where we're moving in college
football now? With the extended seasons.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Well this year, so the NCAA sets the competition calendar, right,
and this.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Year there are two bye weeks.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
It's a fourteen week regular season for twelve games.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
So everybody had two buys. That's also the situation next year.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
So that gives the conferences some flexibility to you know,
give everybody a buye when they kind of need it,
you know, for middle third of the season, but also
to use that second by tactically before rivalry games. I mean,
it serves the Big ten's purpose for Washington and Oregon.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
To be at their best, right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
For this game, and you don't want one team to
have the buye and the other not. That happened a
bunch of times in the Pac twelve because Paxill had
no idea how to schedule.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
But I think it's great that they're doing this.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
They can't always do it if there's only one bye week,
but to me, it makes for the best product in
what is a big game for the Big Ten.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, John Wilners with us again. We'll get off the
Oregon U doub game a second, but I want to
just bring up something that I said on your podcast yesterday,
and I want to know if you agree that, I
think this would be a bigger loss than a bigger
win for Dan Lanning. He's supposed to win. He's a
twenty point favorite, for God's sakes. Even if they you know,
win the game, they still have bigger life your goals
(06:00):
this year.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
If they lose the game.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
He's zero and four against Washington and they're staring two
consecutive losses right in the kisser with a higher state
up next in the Big Ten Championship. So would this
be a bigger loss or a bigger win for Dan Landing?
Speaker 7 (06:16):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Way? Bigger loss? Yeah, I think it would.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
I mean, you know, it's not catastrophic for him, but
it would be a bad, bad loss. It would be worse, way,
worse than the previous three combined. Right it's in Eugene
and their favorite by twenty and everybody knows Washington is
recalibrating this year. Absolutely, I think even if it's a
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if it is a one score game with five minutes
to go, that's it's it's a bad performance for Oregon.
And you know it's not gonna affect Oregon's postseason.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
They're getting in the playoff no matter what.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
But it will be something that will remain, you know,
in the Pacific Northwest, with those two schools, with recruiting,
with the fans. It'll hang over Landing's head. Absolutely, I
think it'll be a terrible loss for him.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
Well, let's talk about how we get there to that
one score game with five minutes left. You're talking about
you you mentioned earlier, and I think accurately, so have
something cooked up that they haven't seen yet, and maybe
you can get a touchdown or two early and kind
of you know, shocking on in the first in the
first quarter. But then stylistically, is it just hey, let's
be really conservative, let's just move the chains and let's
(07:28):
limit the number of touches that Dylan Gabriel gets over
the course of the game.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Absolutely, I think I think Washington has got to be
really good on special teams, very especially on their coverage units.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
The the other.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Thing is, and this would be my scheme of the
week for Husky fans, complimentary football.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
The defense has played very well, but it can't.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
You can't just rely on the defense to hold up
drive after drive against the Oregon without the offense moving
the ball and scoring points.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Right, I see something This is if I'm a Husky fan.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
This is my concerns that it is twenty to ten
at halftime, seventeen ten at halftime, but Washington just cannot
move the ball. Then it becomes twenty four to ten
and twenty seven to ten, and then you get to
the midpoint of the fourth quarter and Udub's defense is gassed,
and Oregon scores a couple of late touchdowns and it
ends up looking like a blowout. But it's because Washington's
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offense couldn't do enough to.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Support the defense.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
I actually I looked up the Huskies and we know
that we've talked about it. Washington has not played well
on the road offensively, right.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I looked it up.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Away from home red zone touchdown percentage, Washington is one
hundred and twenty ninth in the country. Third down conversions
away from home, Washington is one hundred and twenty fourth
in the country. They've got to do those two things
at a reasonable level to give their defense a chance.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
The red zone numbers, is that scoring or touchdowns? That's
touchdown touchdowns one hundred and twenty ninth on the road
on hundred and twenty fourth and third down percentage on offense. Yeah, well,
Neither one of those numbers are good, and that won't
work if they want to win this game and upset
the Ducks on Saturday. John Wilner is with us and John,
do you agree that the Heisman Trophy is down to
a three player race between Ashton Gent, Travis Hunter, and
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Dylan Gabriel?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
And if you do, if you had to vote today,
who's your pick?
Speaker 5 (09:34):
My pick would be Hunter? Okay, who was doing stuff
we have not seen. He's kind of like the college
football version of o'tani. But I do think it's down
three and that's mostly because there isn't a standout SEC
quarterback right and that is typically you you know, you
almost always get one of those guys as a Heisman finalist.
(09:58):
And it's interesting that has happened because the SEC now
has Oklahoma and Texas and they still haven't produced a
quarterback playing at that level. Milroe just has had too much,
too many ups and downs. It hasn't been a good
year there, and so I do think it's those three guys,
and it's got not only a Western field, but you know,
(10:20):
Ann the winner is not going to be a quarterback,
which doesn't happen very often.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Well, you mentioned Milroe. I mean, it's been such a
crazy season for him. John. At the end of the
Georgia game, he had ten touchdowns, one interception, and he'd
run for almost three hundred yards. In four games since then,
he's got five touchdowns and eight picks. Why has it
not worked? I thought Milroe and Kaitlin de Bor would
(10:45):
be a match made in heaven.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
I don't know exactly what's going on there, But it's
not just Milrow, it's Alabama's entire team have been up
and down. They've looked really good sometimes and then they've
looked really bad.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Right, they go as mill Road goes, he goes as
they go. You know.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
I was trying to think, how did Washington do under
debor after big wins?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Right? Did they have the letdown situations? Right?
Speaker 5 (11:13):
The ASU game last year was that was a post
right after Oregon?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Right, that was a letdown game.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Well, but the thing with but John, the thing with
Kaylyn de Bor is he's had multiple over the two
years that he was with Washington. There was a lot
of games the ASU game in twenty twenty two, three
or four games last year Washington State Oregon State where
he just playing five hundred his teams and they just
are flat many times.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
They just happened to win them all last year.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Oh but a lot of coaches do that on the
way to thirteen fourteen wins. I mean those I saw
you tweet that, Dick the other day. We should talk
about that later. But I think a lot of coaches.
Nobody goes out and wins every game by seventy points.
I mean, that's just not going to happen.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
So I have very few teams like Washington have that
many just heart in your throat games and wins.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Oh no, we last year. Year was totally different. I mean,
we'll never see a year like that as long as
we live. But I'm just going back to last season.
The Arizona State game was after they beat Oregon the
first time and they won fifteen to seven. And then
what would be the other close game a year ago,
Tazoo Oregon State Utah Zoo was after the Beaver game,
(12:20):
and then Oregon State was after the Utah game. But
Oregon State and Utah were ranked. That was the eighteen
and number eleven ranked teams in the country when they
played him last year. So I got a problem with that.
But John, I guess The question with the boor is
how much trouble is he really in down there? I mean,
I'm getting a phone call from our buddy down there,
and he says, Man, if he loses the Iron Bowl,
there's going to be people talking about firing this guy.
(12:42):
Was seventy million dollars left in his contract? Is that
even remotely worth talking about if he loses this game
to Auburn?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
No, well, people will.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Talk about it.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I would be shocked if he got fired. That's absolutely shocked. Yeah,
what's happening to Alabama?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Both with the letdowns, who were just talking talking about
just everything, they all of a sudden have lost their immunity.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Right, Shaban was like a vaccine.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
They didn't have the same issues with nil, they didn't
have the same issues with the transfer portal, they didn't
have the same issues with the inconsistent play. Right even
there were times where they would struggle against five hundred teams,
but they'd always win. Right he was he prevented them
from having the same problems that every other program has.
(13:31):
And now it's like they have been cast down with
the masses, and all of a sudden, we're seeing Alabama
vulnerable to these dynamics that everybody else has been dealing
with for fifteen years and they never.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Had to deal with john Is Saban was so incredible.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Yeah, no question. What did you think of the Court
of public opinion whooping that coach sig and Indiana got
the last six days?
Speaker 9 (13:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Uh, you know, he brought some bit on himself. I
kind of find his his brashness refreshing. But like the
whole thing about google it on the Ohio Stadium scoreboard,
I mean, he asked for a lot of this stuff
and he's probably fine with it.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
They they played a bad schedule and they beat a
lot of mediocre teams soundly, and you give him credit
for that, but that was their one game that they got.
They had to show they belonged right, and they didn't
show it. And they're probably gonna get in the playoffs
right because of the collapse of the SEC, But I
don't think they deserve to be. And I think you
should have to beat a team with a winning record
(14:38):
to get in the playoff.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It should be like bare bones criteria.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
And they're probably gonna finish the season without a single
win over a team that's got sept seven wins.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Or more what happened to Washington State.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
WHOA, the defense is terrible New Mexico. I mean, you
guys probably watched a little bit of Oregon State org.
Just it went weeks where they couldn't do anything on
offense and they moved the ball well. Between New Mexico
and the Beavers, that's like nine hundred yards of offense
against the Cougars. So their defense has just collapsed. I
think teams have adjusted a little bit to Matier, He's
(15:12):
still very good. But you know, they beat They got
the softer schedule in a lot of ways of who
they could have played in the Mountain West, and you know,
they did well, they played well early, but the defense
is just kind of given way, they're gonna end up
in a pretty good bowl game.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
They should be Wyoming. They'll finish nine and three.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
You know, maybe they're gonna get to the Vegas Ball
for instance, but certainly given where they were, it's gonna
feel worse than it is for Cougar fans.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
Well, on the topic of the PAC two in the
Mountain West, where do we stand on the court proceedings.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Well, the Mountain West just filed a motion to dismiss
the lawsuit. We're not gonna know for months. I think
the hearing on that is scheduled for March. We're not
gonna know for months. But you know, my sense is
that the PAC twelve has got a pretty good case.
And really what they're trying to do is dragging into
(16:09):
a negotiated settlement and hammer They owe fifty five million
to the Mountain West for for poaching those five schools,
and they're gonna.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Try to drag it, drag it out and pound that
down to say, twenty twenty five million and be good
with that. So I think they got a pretty good
chance of making that happen.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
All right, Uh, you're in a little bit of a
role here. Well, you're actually not. I'm sorry you lost
last week?
Speaker 7 (16:36):
Was you just kidding? John?
Speaker 6 (16:39):
My bad?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
You know what I was doing, Dick, I was looking
at New Heiseel's record, New Heiseel one with ASU over BYU.
But John lost with the Cougars, So you are now, man, that's.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
What you get for having faith in the coops.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
John, Well, I thought they'd too. I thought they'd win too.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
It was more about not having any faith in the
of course air Force game.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, they're terrible.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I mean Vegas had Wazoo was a thirteen point favor
for God's six. John, You've lost five of six overall
in the last month and a half.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
So let's turn this bad boy around. Who do you
like this week?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
The Windelorean has fallen off the path, he's lost his way. Yeah,
they're going to get him back on the straight and arrow.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
What do you got?
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Yeah, boy, I need to kind of get bull eligible here,
all right.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
You know I have.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Actually because I feel like I need to pick the
Oregon Washington game, and I'm gonna I'm gonna go with
the Ducks because I think I think it's gonna be
pretty close for three quarters, and I just I just
am not confident that Washington's offense is going to do enough, okay,
and the defense is just gonna kind of eventually give way.
(17:46):
And that is what happens if you don't play complimentary football.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
All right, Oregon's given nineteen and a half against the
Dogs on Saturday. All right, man, John, listen, have a
great Thanksgiving this week. Thankful for everything you do for
the radio show in station and talking a week man,
appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Yeah, thanks guys, and thanks to simply Seattle for everything. Everybody,
have a great, happy, safe Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
No doubt you're the best. John Wilner with us, and
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We'll get a break.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
The CFP rankings are going to come out very soon
as soon as this basketball game on ESPN, by the
way from MAWI comes to an end. And then Brian Schmetzer,
who can he can smell it, He can smell the
MLS Cup ninety away from another their visit to the
MLAs Championship. He'll join us at five forty five on
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Speaker 2 (19:20):
I'll tell you what, man, looking forward to six o'clock tonight,
We're gonna head to Hillsborough, New Jersey for our Jets
insider cousin Evan is gonna join us coming up by
the way at six o'clock tonight. But before that, Brian
Schmitzer joins us next segment of five forty five.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
He should be in a good mood, right.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
He should.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
This game?
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Is he?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Is he relishing Jackson and the victory on Saturday or nervous.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
As hell for this weekend?
Speaker 8 (19:47):
I think that the answer to that question comes in
how healthy is this team?
Speaker 3 (19:50):
When we get to the.
Speaker 8 (19:51):
Injury section of this conversation and start talking about how
healthy his team is.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Who's available? That's what we're from. If he's a good mood.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Or not, well, we'll find out he's a with us.
At five forty five tonight. We're all ready to go
with him. We do have though, a couple of things
we gotta get to here before we talked soccer. I
believe he called football with Brian Schmetzer coming up at
five forty five tonight. Apparently we have a poll up
on the website on the Twitter spear. Now we got
to get to involving Geno Smith, and if it's the
(20:20):
same one you had today that I've already voted, by
the way, yes, go ahead and tell one.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
I put one I put up this morning, very very
simple poll. Grade Geno this season.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
That's it. Gino Smith's grade this year?
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Correct this year A B C and then since we
only have four options, D or F as the last option.
So how did you guys vote?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I voted for a B.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
By the way, yeah, Jackson is vot I would to
see what the bees look like, so I voted for B.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
Okay, how how would you vote? Jackson?
Speaker 8 (20:51):
You're gonna have to repeat that question. I'm sorry, Dick,
because I've been preparing audio.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Heres gotcha GENA very very simple Geno Smith grade him
AB D r F.
Speaker 8 (21:01):
See, I think I think see. I think he's had
good performances and good moments, but he's also had very
very slap your face with your hand over and over
again moments. So that that drops literally like open hand,
like rh like literally smack my face of what did
you just do? Gino? And he's had so many of
those moments that that that brings it down slightly.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
C plus I would say se plus.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Yeah, all right, I'd be willing to go be if
Gino had the exact same number of terrible plays that
he has, but he had him in like the second
quarter or late first or things that were just not
as crushing as they are, I could have gone by,
(21:45):
but I went CE. And I mean Gino Smith is
two percent love what they get out of Geno Smith. Uh,
fifty two percent B, forty one percent C. That's forty
one percent C and five percent DRF. So it's either
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either BE or C. I just I mean, he's a
problem with fifty twenty second in QBR. He's got a
passer rating under ninety. I just those aren't B numbers,
and I just don't think the production is B production.
I just I just I don't see it. I don't
see it.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, I just I don't have any problem with any
of that. I wouldn't have any problem with it if
you said he was having a D. By the way, either,
he's not having as good a year as he's had
the last two seasons, and his numbers have gradually declined.
I mean, some of that is the offensive line getting worse.
Some of that might be comfort or discomfort with a
brand new offensive coordinator and a brand new coaching staff.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I mean, maybe his numbers would be better if Shane
Waldron was still here. Maybe his numbers would be better
if Pete Carroll were still the head coach, right. I mean,
I've I've kind of realized one thing about you know, Smith,
that either way, Geno Smith is probably not going to
be the Seahawk quarterback in three or four years from now.
If anything, he's got maybe a year or two left.
Either A they signed the guy to a short term
(23:11):
extension or B he just plays out his current contract
and somebody else has taken snaps under center in twenty
twenty six. And I'm fine with that. And I just
think my take on Geno Smith is simple. If you
would have gone back to three years ago when Geno
Smith was backing up Russell Wilson, and you would have
told me that he's going to do what he's done
in the last two and a half years, I think
a lot of people would have thought that would have
(23:33):
been him overachieving. I mean, I thought between him and
Drew Locke, I remember going on the air saying, I
don't care who the quarterback is, because I think both
of these guys stak. Absolutely, I think Gino has well exceeded,
don't you the expectations that we had for him.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
He absolutely has. But if you also would have told
Seahawk fans at that moment, Gino Smith's going to be
your starting quarterback for the next two plus seasons and
you're going to be exactly a five hundred team, would
just sign up for that? And I don't think Seahawk
fans would sign up for that.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I don't think they would.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But I also think they would have thought the defense
would have been better under Pete Carroll. I think the
last couple of years, I think most folks would have
thought the defense would have maybe led the way that
maybe the offensive line by then would have had maybe
a little bit of a better look to.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
It than it does right now.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Right like, it kind of feels like all the questions
that we had about the offensive line heading into the
draft that we thought were taken care of, that now
they're kind of not right, Like who's the long term center,
who's the long term right guard on this football team?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I mean, Laken Tomlinson is one hundred years.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Old, that's right, right. I mean you can say used
to be a good player. I mean you could go
into next year's draft. I mean, this is a big
final six games for Olu and Christian Haynes and all
those guys, and at some point they may have no
choice but to bring some of those guys back, because
you can't fix everything overnight.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
You got to have some week link.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
But I feel like they got just as many questions
now about the line as they did back in March.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
We're gonna break.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Brian Schmetzer has no questions about where he's going Saturday.
He's going to the Western Conference Final and he's ninety
away from the MLS Cup. We'll chat with him next
on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Mind from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick on your Home for
the Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJR FM.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
That was a heroic effort.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
You guys dug deep and persevered.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
And did you you know it was an.
Speaker 10 (25:34):
Unbelievable goal, but your effort throughout the game, leadership at
the end, young legs, everybody. That was a total team effort.
Well done everybody in the room. It was an awesome performance.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
That was Brian Schmetzer after our Thursday show, pumping us
up and telling us what a great job we all did. No,
that was Brian Schmetzer after going down to LAFC and
stabbing a stake right through their heart, right in front
of their fans faces and walking out were the two
to one win to head back to the Western Conference
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Final Saturday against the Galaxy. And here he is the
coach of the day in the MLS, number one in
our hearts. Brian Schmetzer, How are you a coach?
Speaker 10 (26:18):
I'm Cloud nine softy. But where did you get that tape?
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Did you give that to you?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
We had a mall inside your locker room that was
privately secretly recording you.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I have no idea, Jackson, where did you get this?
Speaker 8 (26:31):
On the Sounders social channels Dom and Babs and Connor,
they filmed that and they put it out there.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Wow, see that. I hope my mom doesn't listen to that.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Listen dear, that was exciting as hell. First of all,
congratulations on the win. Another job is not done, but
congratulations on the win. Take us back to Saturday, the
final whistle goes in LA and after four losses to
LAFC this year, they knock you out in the playoffs
last year. How unbelievably satisfying was that for you on
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Saturday night?
Speaker 10 (27:04):
Men, Well, we exercised some demons.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
I got to tell you, softy after the game was over.
Speaker 10 (27:11):
You know, I couldn't have been prouder of a bunch
of guys that. You know, Look, I've had lots of groups,
lots of teams, but that team that night, under duress,
they had adversity, they overcame, they they worked, they outworked
their opponent. I mean, that was such a good performance
on so many different levels.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
As a coach, when.
Speaker 10 (27:33):
Your team plays like that, I just couldn't have been
more prouder of that group of guys.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Well, let's talk about your keeper, because Steph was under
assault for a good portion of that game. He even
had one race smashed into the post while he was
while he was saving it. Just talk about the job
he did, and he just continues to be underappreciated around
the league as far as the amount of awards he gets.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (27:55):
I was talking to Taylor Twelman today, you know, and
he's an expert, you know, at everything, and he came
up with something.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
I can't take credit for it. But Steph Frye.
Speaker 10 (28:04):
You know, some people, you know, they say he's a
good goalkeeper. He's never won Goalkeeper of the Year, but
there's no question the greatest playoff goalkeeper in MLS history
is by far Stephan fry There's not even a conversation there.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, No, I love that.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Brian Schmetzer with us on the radio show Sounders coming
up against the Galaxy this Saturday. I'll tell you more
about the time, kickoff, time, place to hear the game,
all that you obviously dealt with some absences against LAFC
and that made you kind of change your formation in
your lineup a little bit. Take us through the game
plan Saturday, what you wanted to get done going in
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and how it ended up working. I mean, give yourself
a grade. Honestly, if you're sitting here doing our show,
how would you grade Brian Schmetzer's performance on Saturday.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
I'm gonna grade.
Speaker 10 (28:52):
The coaching staff an a plus because, look, we had
some injuries. We had already talked previously Softy about changing
up our back line to match what they do. And
then when we did get the injury to Rock Rock
and Knew who we committed fully, but they only had
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a week of full prep. You know, we had played
that formation against Houston midyear, but that was ages ago.
But the coaching staff did a great job. The players
bought into it and they executed the game plan.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
So a plus for the coaches and a plus for
the players.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Let's talk about new Who is he back from Cameroon
and will he be available on Saturday?
Speaker 6 (29:35):
Dick, he is in market. He's here.
Speaker 10 (29:40):
Our doctors have to check him out though, because you
know he had a serious illness and they're going to.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Check him out.
Speaker 10 (29:48):
That's the piece of good news I can tell you. You know,
knew Who's going to be there available for Saturday.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
How about you, Amar, looks like I got banged up
a bit during the LAFC game. Clearly one of your
best defenders. Is he going Saturday?
Speaker 6 (30:02):
That's the bad news.
Speaker 10 (30:03):
Look on Imar and Reed Baker Whiting. I don't have
definitive information for you, Softy, but.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
I am going to give you a little bit of
a scoop.
Speaker 10 (30:11):
So we were trying to get Paul Rothrock up and
ready for the LAFC game, but I'm going to officially
rule him out for the rest of the playoffs. He
just can't get over you know, he was playing hurt
and the quad just isn't going to make it.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
So he's definitely out.
Speaker 10 (30:30):
Reid I would say that's fifty to fifty at best, Yamar,
I'd give him sixty forty because it's a strong guy
to play, but you know it's going to be a
long shot, all right.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
So just to confirm Rothrock is the one that you're
ruling out.
Speaker 10 (30:42):
Correct, Rothrock is one hundred percent out for the remainder
of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Gotcha? Gotcha?
Speaker 7 (30:47):
So you're heading back to the same city twice in
seven days. Do you go, same hotel, same schedule, you
do the same thing?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Does it all work last week?
Speaker 10 (30:56):
Well, Dick, I wish I was that superstitious, But LA
traffic is going to dictate where we shack up. So
we're going to stay a little bit closer to the
Home Depot center down there in Carson. We're out at
Manhattan Beach, which by the way, isn't a.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Bad part of the world.
Speaker 10 (31:15):
Yeah, and we're a little closer to the stadium. We
stayed in downtown LA for the LAFC match because that's
closer to their stadium.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Okay, well, here's the real problem that I have that
needs to be addressed like asap. Jackson Jackson Feltz was
on your plane going to LA last weekend. He is
not on the plane this weekend. You won with Jackson
on the plane. We have to rectify this immediately and
get his ass on the plane going down to LA
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with you guys.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
So let me talk. Let me talk to you a
little bit about Jackson. Number one.
Speaker 10 (31:48):
We've got now because of the conference final, we've got
the sixty four seater executive plane that's going down to LA.
So that's nice in itself. Jackson had a great trip,
I'm telling you. He went to this fancy Italian place.
They went to a bar afterwards.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
To shoot some pool.
Speaker 10 (32:06):
He came back to the hotel, had a one and
done with coach Tom Deutram, myself, Danny, Jackson, Pete. He
had the game. That could have been the best weekend
of Jackson's life. So he's gonna be on the plane,
the executive plane.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
I'm going to invite him personally.
Speaker 10 (32:22):
We need him.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Wow, how about that?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Do you hear that you take care of don't don't
don't don't don't, don't don't.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
You're going to LA shut the hell out. He'll figure
out out. My god, Well, take care.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Of all right.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
Let's talk about this opponent, the other LA team, first
team in l MLS history with four ten plus goal scorers.
So how do you stop these guys?
Speaker 10 (32:48):
Well, number one defense in the league versus the number
one offense, Ricky Pugue Peck guy by the name of
Paint Hill. They got some funny names, they call him
the three P. But they're awfully talented soccer players. So
we got to stop all of them because you can't
just focus on one. But you know, they're good attacking team.
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But what I would tell you, Dick, is set pieces
and some of their defending. That's where there's some areas
that we can exploit and that's what we're going to
go down and try and do.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Well.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You kind of answered my next question there, but we'll
just wrap it up with this. I mean, what do
you need from your guys on Saturday honestly, like, you know,
give us a little kind of previewed here. We heard
your postgame speech there, right, your profanity filled post game speech,
which I love U. But what is your profanity filled
pregame speech going to sound like on Saturday?
Speaker 10 (33:38):
It's going to be a little different. I was fired
up after the game, and I already had my first
shot at tequila before I made that speech.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
So yeah, the.
Speaker 10 (33:47):
Pregame speech, Look, it's just reminders. It's a lot of
reminders about certain things. And I always like to remind
the players in big games that, look, it's okay to
be nervous, you know, right before the ref blows of
whist all those butterflies in your stomach, that just means
you're alive, you're living.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
And then that.
Speaker 10 (34:04):
Nervous energy turns into adrenaline and he gets fired up.
So I remind him of certain things and try and
get him in a good way to start the game
full of confidence. That's usually my big game pregame speech.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, well, this would be number five if you can
do it, and you would host it at home. There's
not many coaches in the history of this league that
have been to five MLS Cup championship appearances, man, So
go get him kick their ass on Saturday. Come back
here next week and let's talk about winning another title.
I'm gonna put you back on hold so you and
Jackson can figure this out, all right, all right, Jackson.
Speaker 10 (34:39):
Make sure you're wearing the right attire. I won't let
you on the plane, and lets you got your love
good gear.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
All right, hold time, Jackson will pick you up. See
that's how easy it is, Dick to get things done
around here. Ask right, well, you just you just find
a guy in a vulnerable moment. He's in a good mood.
I mean, hell, if we pushed, we may be able
to get you and I on the damn plane and
maybe some listener for crying out loud, We're got to
break when we come back. There's only one man that
we trust to be our New York Jets insider, only
(35:08):
one man that truly really knows what's going on. Cousin
Evan gonna join us next on ninety three to three KJRFM.
It really is only one place we go for New
York Jet inside information. Forget the New York Times, forget
(35:30):
the New York Post, forget the Daily News, forget wfa N.
The one place we go is to a family room
in his Hillsborough, New Jersey. Maybe bypass it and go
right to the kitchen. Potentially could be in the bathroom.
My cousin Evan with us right now on the radio
show How are You Pal?
Speaker 9 (35:50):
I'm doing great, softy Dick, Thank you guys so much
for having me. You know, just once, you know, you
guys are like therapy for me.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
Just once.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
I want to come on with something good. Ye happening
in my life in the Jets life, because every time
it's negative and it's driving me crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Well, you had a baby in the last year, so
that's positive. But the problem with your football team is
they keep sucking. So there really is nothing to talk about.
I mean, what do you want for it through? Yeah,
well maybe if you put together a good football team,
we could talk about the Jets being good.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
But what happened to this team? I mean I thought
they'd be good.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I think, Dick, you thought the Jets would be okay, yes,
and they've turned into a complete freaking disaster.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
What happened to the Jets?
Speaker 9 (36:31):
You know what's really funny? I also thought they would
win nine ten games, compete for the division make the playoffs,
but the football gods have other plans for the New
York Jets.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
What happened?
Speaker 9 (36:42):
Aaron Rodgers has washed and it bums the heck out
of me. I went in with the highest of expectations,
and like the Jets always do, like feels like New
York Sports does, they crushed my heart.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Well, let's start with the firing of Robert Sola, because
you know, I listened to Colin Coward and he's like,
wait a second, you fired the best coach you have
on your staff. At least that guy was a defensive mind.
And correct me if I'm wrong. The defense was actually
playing pretty well when Robert Solo was still the head coach,
wasn't it.
Speaker 9 (37:17):
Yeah, the defense was playing significantly better than it is now.
The New York Jets went to London, and, as you
guys may know, what he Johnson, the owner of the Jets,
was the ambassador to London for four years during the
first Trump presidency, and it's anticipated that he is going
to be doing it again with his next Trump presidency.
So the Jets went to London, lost, got embarrassed, and
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that very long flight home from London ended with Robert
Sala being firing and being fired, and even though he
was a problem with the New York Jets, he was
by no means the biggest problem, as evidenced by the
fact that they have been significantly worse both on the
defensive and the offensive side of the ball. So Solid
(38:02):
was fired. You know, Jeff Ulbrick is a really a
good defensive coordinator, came from San Francisco with a hard
hitting linebacker for you know, eight nine, ten years in
this league. But he's just not ready to be a
head coach. And with him being pulled apart, pulled in
many directions of the head coach would do, the defense
has gone significantly worse.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Well, Cousin Evans with us on the radio show, and
I'm just looking at the Jet quarterbacks in like the
last fifteen years, and I don't understand. Well, yeah, because
we got to talk about it. I'm just kind of
at a loss of why it's been so damn hard
for this football team to find a quarterback. Now, I
(38:43):
remember when Sam Donald showed up and you were like
a pig and poop. You texted me, David, I've never
seen a quarterback like Dezeva.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
And then he falls apart.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
So we got Aaron Rodgers, Zach Wilson, Sam Donald, McCown, Fitzpatrick, Gino,
Sanshine far the old man Pennington.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
What the hell's going on out there?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (39:08):
Joe Namath stold his sole to the devil to get
Super Bowl three and the Jets have been in literal
football health since since that. That that faithful day of
Joe Namath walking off the field with his number one
finger raised to the air. That was the only championship
that the Jets will ever see in his lifetime. That's
what he was signaling as he was running off that field.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (39:29):
Wow, what's interesting in that list that Softy just rattled off.
There's some quarterbacks that have done well elsewhere, I mean, Fitzpatrick,
Darnald Gino, bumps.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
So what's so?
Speaker 7 (39:41):
What's going on? Like? Why is it that that franchise
it's like the Bears, Like, why is it that that
franchise cannot grab a quarterback and have it stick.
Speaker 9 (39:52):
I'm sure you guys know the expression being from Seattle,
the fish rots from the head. It all starts with ownership.
Woody Johnson in a in a list of horrendous ownership
in New York sports from James Dolan with the Knicks,
the Will Ponds with the Mets. You know, Woody Johnson
is he's somehow worse than all of them, which I
wouldn't have thought that would have been possible if you
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would have asked me, you know, five years ago or
so before James Dolan hired me on road. So it's
just it's when you have incompetent ownership that thinks they
know football and they don't. And you know, I don't
know if you guys read the report from the athletics.
You know, the athletic I personally like them, even though
there's a lot of things that I'm like, Yeah, but
that Woody Johnson said that Rogers should be should be
(40:37):
benched after week three. He was making player personnel decisions,
telling the coaching staff of bench of safety. Why is
my owner telling telling the coaching staff the bench of safety?
I just what's wrong with this picture?
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Well, cousin Evans with us, there's a lot wrong with
the Jets man.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
What should I really be concerned about though? On Sunday?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I mean, outside of having a fly three thousand mile
is all right fine, whatever the airfare, the area, you know,
the trip all that stuff. We all get that stuff,
But what should the Seahawks really actually be concerned about
when it comes to this game on Sunday.
Speaker 9 (41:12):
They should be concerned about the fans turning on the
team and stanting and chanting sell the team. They should
be concerned about Sauce Gardner missing tackles. They should be
concerned about Aaron Rodgers showing like he's forty one years
old now. But in all seriousness, if Aaron Rodgers can
show even that he's even a semblance of a quarterback
that he wants won, if he's thirty percent instead of
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the five percent he's been through a lot of these games,
I think they're gonna stand. You get, It's gonna be
a really tough game for both. I personally think the
Seahawks are a little better, but the Jets have significantly
more talent, at least in my opinion, on both sides
of the ball. But the Jets team overall is just
so much worse than Seattle. Seattle the team, the Jets
are just players and it feels like none of them
(41:54):
are playing for each other. And you know, it's it's bad.
You know, the hardest part of the Seahawks honestly should
be the flight cross country.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
Well, my simple question on whether or not the bet
the Hawks in this game is is there any fight left.
Speaker 9 (42:11):
In the Jets?
Speaker 7 (42:12):
Oh, it's like two and a half three? I mean,
is there any Because if there's no fight left in
the Jets, then the Hawks are gonna stop them. But
if if the Jets, like you said, there's as much
I think there's as much talent on the Jets roster
as there is on the Seahawks roster. So if that
talent for one game there might be more, there might
be more. So so that's what worries me as a
(42:34):
Seahawk fan. I'm like, Okay, if for one game that
talent can get together and play well, then the Hawks
are in trouble. So that my question is is there
fight left in the football team?
Speaker 9 (42:45):
I can't. Honestly, I hope there is. I hope for
my sink, I'll be there. You know. I feel like
Softy and I have been to at least combine every
single Jets Theahawks game, and every game I go and thinking,
you know, it's gonna be good for the Jets in
every game they lose, and Softy mocks me without mercy.
But you asked, can the Jets put together four quarters?
(43:05):
I literally have not seen it at any point at
any game this season have they put in four quarters?
If the Seahawks put in four quarters of real competitive football,
I think they win. But if the Jets can give it,
can give you know, us home fans two and a
half quarters. They've always been a second half team. If
they can, you know, give us ten points in the
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first half, I think there's a good chance.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Right by the way, I got a picture. I'm staring
at a picture right now. New Year's Day, twenty twenty three.
Cousin Evan despondent in the stands at Lumenfield as the
Seahawks took the Jets down. So don't test me or
I may end up tweeting this stuff out after the
game on Sunday. But guys, I gotta be honest with you.
This is not Evan's fault. I blame his father for
(43:50):
making him a Jet fan. I mean, your dad had
a choice. Your dad had a choice with his life.
He could have been a Giant fan. He could have
said that, how were it the Patriots or one hundred
miles away, let's just root for them? Instead, he brought
you down this cesspool with him. You want to blame anybody,
blame Brian Lillienthal for the position that you find yourself in.
Speaker 9 (44:12):
I mean, if we're gonna be honest, it's not my father,
it's my my father's father, who is a season ticket
holder for the Jets at State Stadium. And I'm just
as bad as my father and my father's father because,
like Softy said, I have a new baby girl eight
months today, and unfortunately for her, she can make any
decisions she wants in life up to a certain point
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within reason, but she cannot choose another football team. So
I am passing the deadly curse onto the next generation,
just as my father did to me.
Speaker 7 (44:43):
Well, you know, we're Mariner fans, so we know exactly
what you're going through, and we know what it feels
like to have that passed on to our generation and
passing it on to the next general.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Actually we don't because the Jets. The Jets have at
least been to a Super Bowl. We've never even been
to a World Series. It's even worse.
Speaker 9 (44:58):
I mean, I will say this, imagine being in New
York and being a Jets fan, a Mets fan, and
a Knicks fan over the last twenty five to thirty years,
which is my entire LIFETIMEE.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Yeah, that sounds like drugs, by the way, heavy heavy drugs,
heavy drugs.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
All right, man, hey go get them. Good luck, good
luck to you.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
We love you, congratulations on everything, and we'll talk soon,
all right, buy.
Speaker 9 (45:23):
Love you guys, Softy Dick, thank you so much for
having me on and have a happy Thanksgivin.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah you too, man cousin with us on the radio show.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
No better way to go when you're looking
Speaker 2 (45:35):
For Jet insider information than our friend my cousin cousin
Evan in New York.
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Speaker 4 (01:00):
I'm good? Thanks? How you guys?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
We're good. We're good.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So, Greg and Mario we're just in here for the
Husky Hanks show that we do every Tuesday. And I
asked those guys to give us a pathway to victory
for you, Dub on Saturday, and Greg said, the pathway
to victory is through Dan Lanning's dipstick brain and having
him do something stupid that Washington can take advantage of.
(01:25):
So what about you. If there's a path to victory
for you, Dub, what does it look like?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Well?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
I think certainly Oregon would have to contribute to Washington's victory.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Right.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
That could be with Lanning doing his ultra aggressive, slash
reckless decisions on fourth down and in the red zone.
It could be some turnovers, it could be special teams breakdowns.
But I think that the only way Washington could win
is if they get help.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
They got to play very well and.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
They got to get some help because other it's just
gonna be it's too tough. The Oregon's got too much talented,
too many of the positions.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
John, we're giving you full power to name the starting
quarterback for Washington. Who are you naming?
Speaker 5 (02:14):
I would go with Williams even though it's such a
hard environment. I think the Huskies have got to do
something different. Now, I don't think Williams can win them
the game. What I would see is they got a
couple a package of plays for the first couple series
that Oregon is not ready for that they can use
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Williams with and they can move the ball and maybe
get in the end zone once or twice until Oregon
adjust what they're seeing. But that could be better than
anything they get with Rogers, because Oregon's gonna be ready
for all that stuff.
Speaker 8 (02:49):
Now.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
The Huskies they need some kind of element of surprise, ye,
something that Oregon's not ready for.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Well.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I think at the end, the question is if you
go with them on Williams, And we asked Mario Bailey
this question last hour. Are you sticking with him no
matter what or if the offense begins to struggle, do
you dare go back to the guy that you just
bench to come in and save your bacon?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (03:10):
I would like it's like a Game seven in the
World Series, all pitchers are available.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I would do whatever it took.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
If I was Jedfish, if that means going to Rogers,
I'd go to Rogers.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Absolutely, I do whatever whatever I can do to win
the game. And you know will Rodgers is a veteran,
and I would think that even if he's benched, Yeah,
he'd be ready to come in and that would be
a great story. Right, he comes in and does well
and leads them either to victory or a super close game.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, Why do you believe that? Why do you believe
that he would be of that mindset and not just
kind of checked out, pissed off, angry, salty about getting
replaced by an eighteen year old freshman.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
I mean, he might be, but I just think a
lot of these kids are pretty mature, especially the ones
that have schools and dealt with this kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
You know. Just I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I'm just guessing that there's a chance he would react
like that. Now, Fish should have a pretty good idea
of what he's gonna get, and if he senses that
Rogers has checked out, then you don't go to him.
But if Williams is struggling and you think you can
get something out of Rogers, I wouldn't hesitate for a
second to do it.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Both these teams had an early season by and a
late season by.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Why is that?
Speaker 7 (04:28):
Is that just kind of where we're moving in college
football now? With the extended seasons.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Well this year, so the NCAA sets the competition calendar, right,
and this.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Year there are two bye weeks.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
It's a fourteen week regular season for twelve games.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
So everybody had two buys. That's also the situation next year.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
So that gives the conferences some flexibility to you know,
give everybody a buye when they kind of need it,
you know, for middle third of the season, but also
to use that second by tactically before rivalry games. I mean,
it serves the Big ten's purpose for Washington and Oregon.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
To be at their best, right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
For this game, and you don't want one team to
have the buye and the other not. That happened a
bunch of times in the Pac twelve because Paxill had
no idea how to schedule.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
But I think it's great that they're doing this.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
They can't always do it if there's only one bye week,
but to me, it makes for the best product in
what is a big game for the Big Ten.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, John Wilners with us again. We'll get off the
Oregon U doub game a second, but I want to
just bring up something that I said on your podcast yesterday,
and I want to know if you agree that, I
think this would be a bigger loss than a bigger
win for Dan Lanning. He's supposed to win. He's a
twenty point favorite, for God's sakes. Even if they you know,
win the game, they still have bigger life your goals
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this year.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
If they lose the game.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
He's zero and four against Washington and they're staring two
consecutive losses right in the kisser with a higher state
up next in the Big Ten Championship. So would this
be a bigger loss or a bigger win for Dan Landing?
Speaker 7 (06:16):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Way? Bigger loss? Yeah, I think it would.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
I mean, you know, it's not catastrophic for him, but
it would be a bad, bad loss. It would be worse, way,
worse than the previous three combined. Right it's in Eugene
and their favorite by twenty and everybody knows Washington is
recalibrating this year. Absolutely, I think even if it's a
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if it is a one score game with five minutes
to go, that's it's it's a bad performance for Oregon.
And you know it's not gonna affect Oregon's postseason.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
They're getting in the playoff no matter what.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
But it will be something that will remain, you know,
in the Pacific Northwest, with those two schools, with recruiting,
with the fans. It'll hang over Landing's head. Absolutely, I
think it'll be a terrible loss for him.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
Well, let's talk about how we get there to that
one score game with five minutes left. You're talking about
you you mentioned earlier, and I think accurately, so have
something cooked up that they haven't seen yet, and maybe
you can get a touchdown or two early and kind
of you know, shocking on in the first in the
first quarter. But then stylistically, is it just hey, let's
be really conservative, let's just move the chains and let's
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limit the number of touches that Dylan Gabriel gets over
the course of the game.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Absolutely, I think I think Washington has got to be
really good on special teams, very especially on their coverage units.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
The the other.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Thing is, and this would be my scheme of the
week for Husky fans, complimentary football.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
The defense has played very well, but it can't.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
You can't just rely on the defense to hold up
drive after drive against the Oregon without the offense moving
the ball and scoring points.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Right, I see something This is if I'm a Husky fan.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
This is my concerns that it is twenty to ten
at halftime, seventeen ten at halftime, but Washington just cannot
move the ball. Then it becomes twenty four to ten
and twenty seven to ten, and then you get to
the midpoint of the fourth quarter and Udub's defense is gassed,
and Oregon scores a couple of late touchdowns and it
ends up looking like a blowout. But it's because Washington's
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offense couldn't do enough to.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Support the defense.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
I actually I looked up the Huskies and we know
that we've talked about it. Washington has not played well
on the road offensively, right.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I looked it up.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Away from home red zone touchdown percentage, Washington is one
hundred and twenty ninth in the country. Third down conversions
away from home, Washington is one hundred and twenty fourth
in the country. They've got to do those two things
at a reasonable level to give their defense a chance.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
The red zone numbers, is that scoring or touchdowns? That's
touchdown touchdowns one hundred and twenty ninth on the road
on hundred and twenty fourth and third down percentage on offense. Yeah, well,
Neither one of those numbers are good, and that won't
work if they want to win this game and upset
the Ducks on Saturday. John Wilner is with us and John,
do you agree that the Heisman Trophy is down to
a three player race between Ashton Gent, Travis Hunter, and
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Dylan Gabriel?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
And if you do, if you had to vote today,
who's your pick?
Speaker 5 (09:34):
My pick would be Hunter? Okay, who was doing stuff
we have not seen. He's kind of like the college
football version of o'tani. But I do think it's down
three and that's mostly because there isn't a standout SEC
quarterback right and that is typically you you know, you
almost always get one of those guys as a Heisman finalist.
(09:58):
And it's interesting that has happened because the SEC now
has Oklahoma and Texas and they still haven't produced a
quarterback playing at that level. Milroe just has had too much,
too many ups and downs. It hasn't been a good
year there, and so I do think it's those three guys,
and it's got not only a Western field, but you know,
(10:20):
Ann the winner is not going to be a quarterback,
which doesn't happen very often.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Well, you mentioned Milroe. I mean, it's been such a
crazy season for him. John. At the end of the
Georgia game, he had ten touchdowns, one interception, and he'd
run for almost three hundred yards. In four games since then,
he's got five touchdowns and eight picks. Why has it
not worked? I thought Milroe and Kaitlin de Bor would
(10:45):
be a match made in heaven.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
I don't know exactly what's going on there, But it's
not just Milrow, it's Alabama's entire team have been up
and down. They've looked really good sometimes and then they've
looked really bad.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Right, they go as mill Road goes, he goes as
they go. You know.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
I was trying to think, how did Washington do under
debor after big wins?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Right? Did they have the letdown situations? Right?
Speaker 5 (11:13):
The ASU game last year was that was a post
right after Oregon?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Right, that was a letdown game.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Well, but the thing with but John, the thing with
Kaylyn de Bor is he's had multiple over the two
years that he was with Washington. There was a lot
of games the ASU game in twenty twenty two, three
or four games last year Washington State Oregon State where
he just playing five hundred his teams and they just
are flat many times.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
They just happened to win them all last year.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Oh but a lot of coaches do that on the
way to thirteen fourteen wins. I mean those I saw
you tweet that, Dick the other day. We should talk
about that later. But I think a lot of coaches.
Nobody goes out and wins every game by seventy points.
I mean, that's just not going to happen.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
So I have very few teams like Washington have that
many just heart in your throat games and wins.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Oh no, we last year. Year was totally different. I mean,
we'll never see a year like that as long as
we live. But I'm just going back to last season.
The Arizona State game was after they beat Oregon the
first time and they won fifteen to seven. And then
what would be the other close game a year ago,
Tazoo Oregon State Utah Zoo was after the Beaver game,
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and then Oregon State was after the Utah game. But
Oregon State and Utah were ranked. That was the eighteen
and number eleven ranked teams in the country when they
played him last year. So I got a problem with that.
But John, I guess The question with the boor is
how much trouble is he really in down there? I mean,
I'm getting a phone call from our buddy down there,
and he says, Man, if he loses the Iron Bowl,
there's going to be people talking about firing this guy.
(12:42):
Was seventy million dollars left in his contract? Is that
even remotely worth talking about if he loses this game
to Auburn?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
No, well, people will.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Talk about it.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I would be shocked if he got fired. That's absolutely shocked. Yeah,
what's happening to Alabama?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Both with the letdowns, who were just talking talking about
just everything, they all of a sudden have lost their immunity.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Right, Shaban was like a vaccine.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
They didn't have the same issues with nil, they didn't
have the same issues with the transfer portal, they didn't
have the same issues with the inconsistent play. Right even
there were times where they would struggle against five hundred teams,
but they'd always win. Right he was he prevented them
from having the same problems that every other program has.
(13:31):
And now it's like they have been cast down with
the masses, and all of a sudden, we're seeing Alabama
vulnerable to these dynamics that everybody else has been dealing
with for fifteen years and they never.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Had to deal with john Is Saban was so incredible.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Yeah, no question. What did you think of the Court
of public opinion whooping that coach sig and Indiana got
the last six days?
Speaker 9 (13:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Uh, you know, he brought some bit on himself. I
kind of find his his brashness refreshing. But like the
whole thing about google it on the Ohio Stadium scoreboard,
I mean, he asked for a lot of this stuff
and he's probably fine with it.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
They they played a bad schedule and they beat a
lot of mediocre teams soundly, and you give him credit
for that, but that was their one game that they got.
They had to show they belonged right, and they didn't
show it. And they're probably gonna get in the playoffs
right because of the collapse of the SEC, But I
don't think they deserve to be. And I think you
should have to beat a team with a winning record
(14:38):
to get in the playoff.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It should be like bare bones criteria.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
And they're probably gonna finish the season without a single
win over a team that's got sept seven wins.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Or more what happened to Washington State.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
WHOA, the defense is terrible New Mexico. I mean, you
guys probably watched a little bit of Oregon State org.
Just it went weeks where they couldn't do anything on
offense and they moved the ball well. Between New Mexico
and the Beavers, that's like nine hundred yards of offense
against the Cougars. So their defense has just collapsed. I
think teams have adjusted a little bit to Matier, He's
(15:12):
still very good. But you know, they beat They got
the softer schedule in a lot of ways of who
they could have played in the Mountain West, and you know,
they did well, they played well early, but the defense
is just kind of given way, they're gonna end up
in a pretty good bowl game.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
They should be Wyoming. They'll finish nine and three.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
You know, maybe they're gonna get to the Vegas Ball
for instance, but certainly given where they were, it's gonna
feel worse than it is for Cougar fans.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
Well, on the topic of the PAC two in the
Mountain West, where do we stand on the court proceedings.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Well, the Mountain West just filed a motion to dismiss
the lawsuit. We're not gonna know for months. I think
the hearing on that is scheduled for March. We're not
gonna know for months. But you know, my sense is
that the PAC twelve has got a pretty good case.
And really what they're trying to do is dragging into
(16:09):
a negotiated settlement and hammer They owe fifty five million
to the Mountain West for for poaching those five schools,
and they're gonna.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Try to drag it, drag it out and pound that
down to say, twenty twenty five million and be good
with that. So I think they got a pretty good
chance of making that happen.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
All right, Uh, you're in a little bit of a
role here. Well, you're actually not. I'm sorry you lost
last week?
Speaker 7 (16:36):
Was you just kidding? John?
Speaker 6 (16:39):
My bad?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
You know what I was doing, Dick, I was looking
at New Heiseel's record, New Heiseel one with ASU over BYU.
But John lost with the Cougars, So you are now, man, that's.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
What you get for having faith in the coops.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
John, Well, I thought they'd too. I thought they'd win too.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
It was more about not having any faith in the
of course air Force game.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, they're terrible.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I mean Vegas had Wazoo was a thirteen point favor
for God's six. John, You've lost five of six overall
in the last month and a half.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
So let's turn this bad boy around. Who do you
like this week?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
The Windelorean has fallen off the path, he's lost his way. Yeah,
they're going to get him back on the straight and arrow.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
What do you got?
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Yeah, boy, I need to kind of get bull eligible here,
all right.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
You know I have.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Actually because I feel like I need to pick the
Oregon Washington game, and I'm gonna I'm gonna go with
the Ducks because I think I think it's gonna be
pretty close for three quarters, and I just I just
am not confident that Washington's offense is going to do enough, okay,
and the defense is just gonna kind of eventually give way.
(17:46):
And that is what happens if you don't play complimentary football.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
All right, Oregon's given nineteen and a half against the
Dogs on Saturday. All right, man, John, listen, have a
great Thanksgiving this week. Thankful for everything you do for
the radio show in station and talking a week man,
appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Yeah, thanks guys, and thanks to simply Seattle for everything. Everybody,
have a great, happy, safe Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
No doubt you're the best. John Wilner with us, and
again don't forget.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
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(18:31):
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Speaker 3 (18:43):
We'll get a break.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
The CFP rankings are going to come out very soon
as soon as this basketball game on ESPN, by the
way from MAWI comes to an end. And then Brian Schmetzer,
who can he can smell it, He can smell the
MLS Cup ninety away from another their visit to the
MLAs Championship. He'll join us at five forty five on
(19:05):
ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick Gone, your home for
the Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point
three kJ R FM.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I'll tell you what, man, looking forward to six o'clock tonight,
We're gonna head to Hillsborough, New Jersey for our Jets
insider cousin Evan is gonna join us coming up by
the way at six o'clock tonight. But before that, Brian
Schmitzer joins us next segment of five forty five.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
He should be in a good mood, right.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
He should.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
This game?
Speaker 7 (19:41):
Is he?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Is he relishing Jackson and the victory on Saturday or nervous.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
As hell for this weekend?
Speaker 8 (19:47):
I think that the answer to that question comes in
how healthy is this team?
Speaker 3 (19:50):
When we get to the.
Speaker 8 (19:51):
Injury section of this conversation and start talking about how
healthy his team is.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Who's available? That's what we're from. If he's a good mood.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Or not, well, we'll find out he's a with us.
At five forty five tonight. We're all ready to go
with him. We do have though, a couple of things
we gotta get to here before we talked soccer. I
believe he called football with Brian Schmetzer coming up at
five forty five tonight. Apparently we have a poll up
on the website on the Twitter spear. Now we got
to get to involving Geno Smith, and if it's the
(20:20):
same one you had today that I've already voted, by
the way, yes, go ahead and tell one.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
I put one I put up this morning, very very
simple poll. Grade Geno this season.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
That's it. Gino Smith's grade this year?
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Correct this year A B C and then since we
only have four options, D or F as the last option.
So how did you guys vote?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I voted for a B.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
By the way, yeah, Jackson is vot I would to
see what the bees look like, so I voted for B.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
Okay, how how would you vote? Jackson?
Speaker 8 (20:51):
You're gonna have to repeat that question. I'm sorry, Dick,
because I've been preparing audio.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Heres gotcha GENA very very simple Geno Smith grade him
AB D r F.
Speaker 8 (21:01):
See, I think I think see. I think he's had
good performances and good moments, but he's also had very
very slap your face with your hand over and over
again moments. So that that drops literally like open hand,
like rh like literally smack my face of what did
you just do? Gino? And he's had so many of
those moments that that that brings it down slightly.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
C plus I would say se plus.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Yeah, all right, I'd be willing to go be if
Gino had the exact same number of terrible plays that
he has, but he had him in like the second
quarter or late first or things that were just not
as crushing as they are, I could have gone by,
(21:45):
but I went CE. And I mean Gino Smith is
two percent love what they get out of Geno Smith. Uh,
fifty two percent B, forty one percent C. That's forty
one percent C and five percent DRF. So it's either
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either BE or C. I just I mean, he's a
problem with fifty twenty second in QBR. He's got a
passer rating under ninety. I just those aren't B numbers,
and I just don't think the production is B production.
I just I just I don't see it. I don't
see it.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, I just I don't have any problem with any
of that. I wouldn't have any problem with it if
you said he was having a D. By the way, either,
he's not having as good a year as he's had
the last two seasons, and his numbers have gradually declined.
I mean, some of that is the offensive line getting worse.
Some of that might be comfort or discomfort with a
brand new offensive coordinator and a brand new coaching staff.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I mean, maybe his numbers would be better if Shane
Waldron was still here. Maybe his numbers would be better
if Pete Carroll were still the head coach, right. I mean,
I've I've kind of realized one thing about you know, Smith,
that either way, Geno Smith is probably not going to
be the Seahawk quarterback in three or four years from now.
If anything, he's got maybe a year or two left.
Either A they signed the guy to a short term
(23:11):
extension or B he just plays out his current contract
and somebody else has taken snaps under center in twenty
twenty six. And I'm fine with that. And I just
think my take on Geno Smith is simple. If you
would have gone back to three years ago when Geno
Smith was backing up Russell Wilson, and you would have
told me that he's going to do what he's done
in the last two and a half years, I think
a lot of people would have thought that would have
(23:33):
been him overachieving. I mean, I thought between him and
Drew Locke, I remember going on the air saying, I
don't care who the quarterback is, because I think both
of these guys stak. Absolutely, I think Gino has well exceeded,
don't you the expectations that we had for him.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
He absolutely has. But if you also would have told
Seahawk fans at that moment, Gino Smith's going to be
your starting quarterback for the next two plus seasons and
you're going to be exactly a five hundred team, would
just sign up for that? And I don't think Seahawk
fans would sign up for that.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I don't think they would.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
But I also think they would have thought the defense
would have been better under Pete Carroll. I think the
last couple of years, I think most folks would have
thought the defense would have maybe led the way that
maybe the offensive line by then would have had maybe
a little bit of a better look to.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
It than it does right now.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Right like, it kind of feels like all the questions
that we had about the offensive line heading into the
draft that we thought were taken care of, that now
they're kind of not right, Like who's the long term center,
who's the long term right guard on this football team?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I mean, Laken Tomlinson is one hundred years.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Old, that's right, right. I mean you can say used
to be a good player. I mean you could go
into next year's draft. I mean, this is a big
final six games for Olu and Christian Haynes and all
those guys, and at some point they may have no
choice but to bring some of those guys back, because
you can't fix everything overnight.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
You got to have some week link.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
But I feel like they got just as many questions
now about the line as they did back in March.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
We're gonna break.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Brian Schmetzer has no questions about where he's going Saturday.
He's going to the Western Conference Final and he's ninety
away from the MLS Cup. We'll chat with him next
on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Mind from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick on your Home for
the Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJR FM.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
That was a heroic effort.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
You guys dug deep and persevered.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
And did you you know it was an.
Speaker 10 (25:34):
Unbelievable goal, but your effort throughout the game, leadership at
the end, young legs, everybody. That was a total team effort.
Well done everybody in the room. It was an awesome performance.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
That was Brian Schmetzer after our Thursday show, pumping us
up and telling us what a great job we all did. No,
that was Brian Schmetzer after going down to LAFC and
stabbing a stake right through their heart, right in front
of their fans faces and walking out were the two
to one win to head back to the Western Conference
(26:07):
Final Saturday against the Galaxy. And here he is the
coach of the day in the MLS, number one in
our hearts. Brian Schmetzer, How are you a coach?
Speaker 10 (26:18):
I'm Cloud nine softy. But where did you get that tape?
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Did you give that to you?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
We had a mall inside your locker room that was
privately secretly recording you.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I have no idea, Jackson, where did you get this?
Speaker 8 (26:31):
On the Sounders social channels Dom and Babs and Connor,
they filmed that and they put it out there.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Wow, see that. I hope my mom doesn't listen to that.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Listen dear, that was exciting as hell. First of all,
congratulations on the win. Another job is not done, but
congratulations on the win. Take us back to Saturday, the
final whistle goes in LA and after four losses to
LAFC this year, they knock you out in the playoffs
last year. How unbelievably satisfying was that for you on
(27:03):
Saturday night?
Speaker 10 (27:04):
Men, Well, we exercised some demons.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
I got to tell you, softy after the game was over.
Speaker 10 (27:11):
You know, I couldn't have been prouder of a bunch
of guys that. You know, Look, I've had lots of groups,
lots of teams, but that team that night, under duress,
they had adversity, they overcame, they they worked, they outworked
their opponent. I mean, that was such a good performance
on so many different levels.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
As a coach, when.
Speaker 10 (27:33):
Your team plays like that, I just couldn't have been
more prouder of that group of guys.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Well, let's talk about your keeper, because Steph was under
assault for a good portion of that game. He even
had one race smashed into the post while he was
while he was saving it. Just talk about the job
he did, and he just continues to be underappreciated around
the league as far as the amount of awards he gets.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (27:55):
I was talking to Taylor Twelman today, you know, and
he's an expert, you know, at everything, and he came
up with something.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
I can't take credit for it. But Steph Frye.
Speaker 10 (28:04):
You know, some people, you know, they say he's a
good goalkeeper. He's never won Goalkeeper of the Year, but
there's no question the greatest playoff goalkeeper in MLS history
is by far Stephan fry There's not even a conversation there.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, No, I love that.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Brian Schmetzer with us on the radio show Sounders coming
up against the Galaxy this Saturday. I'll tell you more
about the time, kickoff, time, place to hear the game,
all that you obviously dealt with some absences against LAFC
and that made you kind of change your formation in
your lineup a little bit. Take us through the game
plan Saturday, what you wanted to get done going in
(28:43):
and how it ended up working. I mean, give yourself
a grade. Honestly, if you're sitting here doing our show,
how would you grade Brian Schmetzer's performance on Saturday.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
I'm gonna grade.
Speaker 10 (28:52):
The coaching staff an a plus because, look, we had
some injuries. We had already talked previously Softy about changing
up our back line to match what they do. And
then when we did get the injury to Rock Rock
and Knew who we committed fully, but they only had
(29:14):
a week of full prep. You know, we had played
that formation against Houston midyear, but that was ages ago.
But the coaching staff did a great job. The players
bought into it and they executed the game plan.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
So a plus for the coaches and a plus for
the players.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Let's talk about new Who is he back from Cameroon
and will he be available on Saturday?
Speaker 6 (29:35):
Dick, he is in market. He's here.
Speaker 10 (29:40):
Our doctors have to check him out though, because you
know he had a serious illness and they're going to.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Check him out.
Speaker 10 (29:48):
That's the piece of good news I can tell you. You know,
knew Who's going to be there available for Saturday.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
How about you, Amar, looks like I got banged up
a bit during the LAFC game. Clearly one of your
best defenders. Is he going Saturday?
Speaker 6 (30:02):
That's the bad news.
Speaker 10 (30:03):
Look on Imar and Reed Baker Whiting. I don't have
definitive information for you, Softy, but.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
I am going to give you a little bit of
a scoop.
Speaker 10 (30:11):
So we were trying to get Paul Rothrock up and
ready for the LAFC game, but I'm going to officially
rule him out for the rest of the playoffs. He
just can't get over you know, he was playing hurt
and the quad just isn't going to make it.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
So he's definitely out.
Speaker 10 (30:30):
Reid I would say that's fifty to fifty at best, Yamar,
I'd give him sixty forty because it's a strong guy
to play, but you know it's going to be a
long shot, all right.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
So just to confirm Rothrock is the one that you're
ruling out.
Speaker 10 (30:42):
Correct, Rothrock is one hundred percent out for the remainder
of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Gotcha? Gotcha?
Speaker 7 (30:47):
So you're heading back to the same city twice in
seven days. Do you go, same hotel, same schedule, you
do the same thing?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Does it all work last week?
Speaker 10 (30:56):
Well, Dick, I wish I was that superstitious, But LA
traffic is going to dictate where we shack up. So
we're going to stay a little bit closer to the
Home Depot center down there in Carson. We're out at
Manhattan Beach, which by the way, isn't a.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Bad part of the world.
Speaker 10 (31:15):
Yeah, and we're a little closer to the stadium. We
stayed in downtown LA for the LAFC match because that's
closer to their stadium.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Okay, well, here's the real problem that I have that
needs to be addressed like asap. Jackson Jackson Feltz was
on your plane going to LA last weekend. He is
not on the plane this weekend. You won with Jackson
on the plane. We have to rectify this immediately and
get his ass on the plane going down to LA
(31:43):
with you guys.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
So let me talk. Let me talk to you a
little bit about Jackson. Number one.
Speaker 10 (31:48):
We've got now because of the conference final, we've got
the sixty four seater executive plane that's going down to LA.
So that's nice in itself. Jackson had a great trip,
I'm telling you. He went to this fancy Italian place.
They went to a bar afterwards.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
To shoot some pool.
Speaker 10 (32:06):
He came back to the hotel, had a one and
done with coach Tom Deutram, myself, Danny, Jackson, Pete. He
had the game. That could have been the best weekend
of Jackson's life. So he's gonna be on the plane,
the executive plane.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
I'm going to invite him personally.
Speaker 10 (32:22):
We need him.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Wow, how about that?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Do you hear that you take care of don't don't
don't don't don't, don't don't.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
You're going to LA shut the hell out. He'll figure
out out. My god, Well, take care.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Of all right.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
Let's talk about this opponent, the other LA team, first
team in l MLS history with four ten plus goal scorers.
So how do you stop these guys?
Speaker 10 (32:48):
Well, number one defense in the league versus the number
one offense, Ricky Pugue Peck guy by the name of
Paint Hill. They got some funny names, they call him
the three P. But they're awfully talented soccer players. So
we got to stop all of them because you can't
just focus on one. But you know, they're good attacking team.
(33:10):
But what I would tell you, Dick, is set pieces
and some of their defending. That's where there's some areas
that we can exploit and that's what we're going to
go down and try and do.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Well.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You kind of answered my next question there, but we'll
just wrap it up with this. I mean, what do
you need from your guys on Saturday honestly, like, you know,
give us a little kind of previewed here. We heard
your postgame speech there, right, your profanity filled post game speech,
which I love U. But what is your profanity filled
pregame speech going to sound like on Saturday?
Speaker 10 (33:38):
It's going to be a little different. I was fired
up after the game, and I already had my first
shot at tequila before I made that speech.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
So yeah, the.
Speaker 10 (33:47):
Pregame speech, Look, it's just reminders. It's a lot of
reminders about certain things. And I always like to remind
the players in big games that, look, it's okay to
be nervous, you know, right before the ref blows of
whist all those butterflies in your stomach, that just means
you're alive, you're living.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
And then that.
Speaker 10 (34:04):
Nervous energy turns into adrenaline and he gets fired up.
So I remind him of certain things and try and
get him in a good way to start the game
full of confidence. That's usually my big game pregame speech.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, well, this would be number five if you can
do it, and you would host it at home. There's
not many coaches in the history of this league that
have been to five MLS Cup championship appearances, man, So
go get him kick their ass on Saturday. Come back
here next week and let's talk about winning another title.
I'm gonna put you back on hold so you and
Jackson can figure this out, all right, all right, Jackson.
Speaker 10 (34:39):
Make sure you're wearing the right attire. I won't let
you on the plane, and lets you got your love
good gear.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
All right, hold time, Jackson will pick you up. See
that's how easy it is, Dick to get things done
around here. Ask right, well, you just you just find
a guy in a vulnerable moment. He's in a good mood.
I mean, hell, if we pushed, we may be able
to get you and I on the damn plane and
maybe some listener for crying out loud, We're got to
break when we come back. There's only one man that
we trust to be our New York Jets insider, only
(35:08):
one man that truly really knows what's going on. Cousin
Evan gonna join us next on ninety three to three KJRFM.
It really is only one place we go for New
York Jet inside information. Forget the New York Times, forget
(35:30):
the New York Post, forget the Daily News, forget wfa N.
The one place we go is to a family room
in his Hillsborough, New Jersey. Maybe bypass it and go
right to the kitchen. Potentially could be in the bathroom.
My cousin Evan with us right now on the radio
show How are You Pal?
Speaker 9 (35:50):
I'm doing great, softy Dick, Thank you guys so much
for having me. You know, just once, you know, you
guys are like therapy for me.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
Just once.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
I want to come on with something good. Ye happening
in my life in the Jets life, because every time
it's negative and it's driving me crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Well, you had a baby in the last year, so
that's positive. But the problem with your football team is
they keep sucking. So there really is nothing to talk about.
I mean, what do you want for it through? Yeah,
well maybe if you put together a good football team,
we could talk about the Jets being good.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
But what happened to this team? I mean I thought
they'd be good.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I think, Dick, you thought the Jets would be okay, yes,
and they've turned into a complete freaking disaster.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
What happened to the Jets?
Speaker 9 (36:31):
You know what's really funny? I also thought they would
win nine ten games, compete for the division make the playoffs,
but the football gods have other plans for the New
York Jets.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
What happened?
Speaker 9 (36:42):
Aaron Rodgers has washed and it bums the heck out
of me. I went in with the highest of expectations,
and like the Jets always do, like feels like New
York Sports does, they crushed my heart.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Well, let's start with the firing of Robert Sola, because
you know, I listened to Colin Coward and he's like,
wait a second, you fired the best coach you have
on your staff. At least that guy was a defensive mind.
And correct me if I'm wrong. The defense was actually
playing pretty well when Robert Solo was still the head coach,
wasn't it.
Speaker 9 (37:17):
Yeah, the defense was playing significantly better than it is now.
The New York Jets went to London, and, as you
guys may know, what he Johnson, the owner of the Jets,
was the ambassador to London for four years during the
first Trump presidency, and it's anticipated that he is going
to be doing it again with his next Trump presidency.
So the Jets went to London, lost, got embarrassed, and
(37:41):
that very long flight home from London ended with Robert
Sala being firing and being fired, and even though he
was a problem with the New York Jets, he was
by no means the biggest problem, as evidenced by the
fact that they have been significantly worse both on the
defensive and the offensive side of the ball. So Solid
(38:02):
was fired. You know, Jeff Ulbrick is a really a
good defensive coordinator, came from San Francisco with a hard
hitting linebacker for you know, eight nine, ten years in
this league. But he's just not ready to be a
head coach. And with him being pulled apart, pulled in
many directions of the head coach would do, the defense
has gone significantly worse.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Well, Cousin Evans with us on the radio show, and
I'm just looking at the Jet quarterbacks in like the
last fifteen years, and I don't understand. Well, yeah, because
we got to talk about it. I'm just kind of
at a loss of why it's been so damn hard
for this football team to find a quarterback. Now, I
(38:43):
remember when Sam Donald showed up and you were like
a pig and poop. You texted me, David, I've never
seen a quarterback like Dezeva.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
And then he falls apart.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
So we got Aaron Rodgers, Zach Wilson, Sam Donald, McCown, Fitzpatrick, Gino,
Sanshine far the old man Pennington.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
What the hell's going on out there?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (39:08):
Joe Namath stold his sole to the devil to get
Super Bowl three and the Jets have been in literal
football health since since that. That that faithful day of
Joe Namath walking off the field with his number one
finger raised to the air. That was the only championship
that the Jets will ever see in his lifetime. That's
what he was signaling as he was running off that field.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (39:29):
Wow, what's interesting in that list that Softy just rattled off.
There's some quarterbacks that have done well elsewhere, I mean, Fitzpatrick,
Darnald Gino, bumps.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
So what's so?
Speaker 7 (39:41):
What's going on? Like? Why is it that that franchise
it's like the Bears, Like, why is it that that
franchise cannot grab a quarterback and have it stick.
Speaker 9 (39:52):
I'm sure you guys know the expression being from Seattle,
the fish rots from the head. It all starts with ownership.
Woody Johnson in a in a list of horrendous ownership
in New York sports from James Dolan with the Knicks,
the Will Ponds with the Mets. You know, Woody Johnson
is he's somehow worse than all of them, which I
wouldn't have thought that would have been possible if you
(40:14):
would have asked me, you know, five years ago or
so before James Dolan hired me on road. So it's
just it's when you have incompetent ownership that thinks they
know football and they don't. And you know, I don't
know if you guys read the report from the athletics.
You know, the athletic I personally like them, even though
there's a lot of things that I'm like, Yeah, but
that Woody Johnson said that Rogers should be should be
(40:37):
benched after week three. He was making player personnel decisions,
telling the coaching staff of bench of safety. Why is
my owner telling telling the coaching staff the bench of safety?
I just what's wrong with this picture?
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Well, cousin Evans with us, there's a lot wrong with
the Jets man.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
What should I really be concerned about though? On Sunday?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I mean, outside of having a fly three thousand mile
is all right fine, whatever the airfare, the area, you know,
the trip all that stuff. We all get that stuff,
But what should the Seahawks really actually be concerned about
when it comes to this game on Sunday.
Speaker 9 (41:12):
They should be concerned about the fans turning on the
team and stanting and chanting sell the team. They should
be concerned about Sauce Gardner missing tackles. They should be
concerned about Aaron Rodgers showing like he's forty one years
old now. But in all seriousness, if Aaron Rodgers can
show even that he's even a semblance of a quarterback
that he wants won, if he's thirty percent instead of
(41:34):
the five percent he's been through a lot of these games,
I think they're gonna stand. You get, It's gonna be
a really tough game for both. I personally think the
Seahawks are a little better, but the Jets have significantly
more talent, at least in my opinion, on both sides
of the ball. But the Jets team overall is just
so much worse than Seattle. Seattle the team, the Jets
are just players and it feels like none of them
(41:54):
are playing for each other. And you know, it's it's bad.
You know, the hardest part of the Seahawks honestly should
be the flight cross country.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
Well, my simple question on whether or not the bet
the Hawks in this game is is there any fight left.
Speaker 9 (42:11):
In the Jets?
Speaker 7 (42:12):
Oh, it's like two and a half three? I mean,
is there any Because if there's no fight left in
the Jets, then the Hawks are gonna stop them. But
if if the Jets, like you said, there's as much
I think there's as much talent on the Jets roster
as there is on the Seahawks roster. So if that
talent for one game there might be more, there might
be more. So so that's what worries me as a
(42:34):
Seahawk fan. I'm like, Okay, if for one game that
talent can get together and play well, then the Hawks
are in trouble. So that my question is is there
fight left in the football team?
Speaker 9 (42:45):
I can't. Honestly, I hope there is. I hope for
my sink, I'll be there. You know. I feel like
Softy and I have been to at least combine every
single Jets Theahawks game, and every game I go and thinking,
you know, it's gonna be good for the Jets in
every game they lose, and Softy mocks me without mercy.
But you asked, can the Jets put together four quarters?
(43:05):
I literally have not seen it at any point at
any game this season have they put in four quarters?
If the Seahawks put in four quarters of real competitive football,
I think they win. But if the Jets can give it,
can give you know, us home fans two and a
half quarters. They've always been a second half team. If
they can, you know, give us ten points in the
(43:27):
first half, I think there's a good chance.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Right by the way, I got a picture. I'm staring
at a picture right now. New Year's Day, twenty twenty three.
Cousin Evan despondent in the stands at Lumenfield as the
Seahawks took the Jets down. So don't test me or
I may end up tweeting this stuff out after the
game on Sunday. But guys, I gotta be honest with you.
This is not Evan's fault. I blame his father for
(43:50):
making him a Jet fan. I mean, your dad had
a choice. Your dad had a choice with his life.
He could have been a Giant fan. He could have
said that, how were it the Patriots or one hundred
miles away, let's just root for them? Instead, he brought
you down this cesspool with him. You want to blame anybody,
blame Brian Lillienthal for the position that you find yourself in.
Speaker 9 (44:12):
I mean, if we're gonna be honest, it's not my father,
it's my my father's father, who is a season ticket
holder for the Jets at State Stadium. And I'm just
as bad as my father and my father's father because,
like Softy said, I have a new baby girl eight
months today, and unfortunately for her, she can make any
decisions she wants in life up to a certain point
(44:33):
within reason, but she cannot choose another football team. So
I am passing the deadly curse onto the next generation,
just as my father did to me.
Speaker 7 (44:43):
Well, you know, we're Mariner fans, so we know exactly
what you're going through, and we know what it feels
like to have that passed on to our generation and
passing it on to the next general.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Actually we don't because the Jets. The Jets have at
least been to a Super Bowl. We've never even been
to a World Series. It's even worse.
Speaker 9 (44:58):
I mean, I will say this, imagine being in New
York and being a Jets fan, a Mets fan, and
a Knicks fan over the last twenty five to thirty years,
which is my entire LIFETIMEE.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Yeah, that sounds like drugs, by the way, heavy heavy drugs,
heavy drugs.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
All right, man, hey go get them. Good luck, good
luck to you.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
We love you, congratulations on everything, and we'll talk soon,
all right, buy.
Speaker 9 (45:23):
Love you guys, Softy Dick, thank you so much for
having me on and have a happy Thanksgivin.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah you too, man cousin with us on the radio show.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
No better way to go when you're looking
Speaker 2 (45:35):
For Jet insider information than our friend my cousin cousin
Evan in New York.
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